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to combine two things in one, which, yes, I know
there is an ad campaign. Wasn't that a t Was
that a Kelsey ad campaign? Right? Two things in one? Yeah,
I want to combine two things one. I can compare
combined last night's game between the Maverick Summer League team
and the Lakers Summer League team, and the story in
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regards to the Lakers and their treatment, if you will,
of lebron James since the Luka Doncic trade. Okay, so
last night you watched Bronnie James, And again I understand
that anytime you give any reasonable feedback about Bronnie that's
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not oh my gosh, he's a rotation player next year.
What an incredible discovery the Lakers made of this poor
kid who just barely played at USC because he's coming
off the heart issue. If I say any anything other
than that, I'm deemed to be a hater. Okay, washing
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him in high school, wash him in aau, washing him
at USC. Hey. His year at USC, I was still
covering college basketball for the TV Network other TV networks,
and I lived in southern California as well as helping
out some in Oklahoma State. Okay, this year, again, I
watched as much as I could. I did watch some
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G League games, some he played well and some he didn't.
And I watched you know, the NBA bit minutes here
or there, whatever. So I'm trying to give you the truest,
most honest assessment. If that bothers you, I don't know
it just that bothers you. That's not my issue. I
don't think he looked like a bad basketball player. He
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didn't look like he was a make a wish picked
out of the crowd. Oh my gosh, this poor kid.
Let's give him a uniform and let him run up
and down the court. There were times in which he
defended at a high level. He made a couple of
nice shots, he had a nice drive and kick off
for a dunk, like there were some good things there.
But there were other times in which he was just
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a guy out there, what's called a jag, just a guy,
And my evol would have been, okay, wait, he played
in the NBA last year, he was in the G
League and he and that's it. I would have said,
not a rotation player, probably not a full time NBA guy.
If you've had that much experience and that much work
with the big club, this should be way easier for you.
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I mean, really, it's like playing Madden at the all
pro level, and now you're playing Madden at the rookie level.
Even if you barely do anything at the all pro level,
you get the Rooie of like this is a lot easier,
And I was thinking to myself, like he's not bad.
But remember last year JJ Reddick when they draft him,
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it's like he's earned this, and everybody said, like, oh,
then you give him the four year guarante he contracts.
People said, oh, yeah, then you play him Opening Night
and it was a photo op and like, look, I
do get it. You know, I've said this ten times
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over that if the worst thing Lebron has done as
a parent is make the Lakers draft and play his kid,
like it's really in comparison to what some other stars
have done with their kids, or their lack of engagement,
or their sons you know, weren't nearly as good or
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for whatever reason, like he has no off the court
issues at all. Talk about Lebron zero one wife, three kids,
and yeah, we can find fault with dads, But dads
that love their kids so much they think they're better
athletes than they actually are. That sounds like every dad ever,
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right ever, but they clearly did to curry favor with Lebron.
So again, I'm trying to put these two stories together.
So why would the Lakers go from hey man Lebron's
our guy. We wanted to set that career scoring mark.
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We want to go all in on Lebron to they
sell the team and they don't even call them, they
don't give them the heads up. Why would they? And
my best guess, hey, my best guess is that the
Lebron thing is a lot, man, It's just a lot.
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It wears you down. There is a shelf life on it.
And I think there was an attempted coup at several
times of Rob Polinka of the Lakers' front office. If
you go back to what pat Riley said when he
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left the Heat, remember, okay, what Phil Jackson said he
had heard about pat Riley's experience when he was with
the Heat, which is he brings in all his guys
and he tries to take over your shop. And so
my guess is that at some point they got to
the like, we just got to get out of this
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doing everything for Lebron thing. We traded the kitchen sink
for Anthony Davis won a title. Then we want to
go get DeMar de Rosen and he says, no, no, no,
We're going to get Russell Westbrook. Then we have to
just get rid of Russell Westbrook. That's just an ugly episode.
We've cycled through coaches that can't coach him. Now you
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make them draft your son. And again, I don't know
this for a fact, and no people in the organization
has not been told to me for a fact. But
if you keep kind of forcing it, forcing, forcing it,
and you know, like, why was Brownnie with the big club?
Do you think they love the fact that he didn't
travel to Bronnie didn't travel to road games for the
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first half of the year in the G League. Then
when he does play in the G League, he takes
every shot. Then when he's on the team, it's like,
you know, how do like that? That whole thing? It
it It makes a little what they what they called
when you have little clicks within a team, it becomes
very clique. And it's not to say Lebron's a bad
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guy or that if you were that powerful, you wouldn't
exert some of that powerful. But there does come a
point where as a team you're like, dude, f that dude.
We do everything for him, everything, everything, And what's his
reaction been like to the trade? Well, hey, it could
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be me next. Any rumors about their clubs that's all
coming from Lebron, and I just think the Lakers are
just kind of done with it and sort of And
this is, by the way, how Lebron treats people. Lebron
doesn't go up to a coach when he wants him
fired and says you're fired. He doesn't go up to
a player and says, I'm never talking to you again.
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He just stops communicating with them. That was the whole
thing with Russell Westbrook. Remember there's the famous part on
the bench when he's sitting there with Anthony Davison and
Russell Westbrook's coming up and talked to him, and it's
like he's not even there. It's like he's looking completely
through him. He might as well have that invisible cloak
that they had with Harry Potter, right, So it's one
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of those Hey, it's really weird that Lebron is disgusted
over the passive aggressive ways of the Lakers when he's
the king of passive aggressive. And the perfect example of
it is here's last night, all this hype, they put
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all this into Brownie's development, and he's right, he's not
tear like, please don't let anybody tell you, God said
he's terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Was not.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
But dude, anybody who's played in the league, there's just
a different sort of swagger, different sort of look, different
sort of control on the game. They just look feel
everything is different than everybody else. So when's my ted talk,
Dan Byer, what do you think does that? Do you
do you buy any of that that? It's not It's
not one thing, it's it's years of build up to
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where finally they're like, you know what, you want to
be passive aggressive, we'll do the passive aggressive thing. We
pick up your player option. But we're not We're not
doing we're not holding meetings and like, what do you
want us to do?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I feel that the Lakers finally have control and
they can go into their file cabinet and bring out
all the things that they've kept under wraps or things
that they haven't spoken about, which you laid out there
where they said, well this is the reason why. And
maybe they won't even do that. Maybe they'll just take
the high road and say, all right, we've just decided
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to chart our future in a different direction with Luka
Doncic and move on that way. But none of that
stuff in the past, I'm sure helps. I also said before,
I feel it's been a relationship built on convenience and
for all of that, I don't think that the Lakers
should deny that they had their own reasons for allowing
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Lebron to do that. But yeah, now it's a different time.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Evan tweets us and he says, guys, Pat Benattar did
a song called I Am the Warrior. Patty smythe did
the Warrior? Two different songs, two different songs. H So again,
I can you can you do me a favor, Sam
and find I Am the Warrior and then juxtapose it
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with the Warrior and see if I have any sort
of maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I was you were singing Scandal like, yes, you were like.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
In the Scandal's version, don't they say I Am the Worrior? Yes,
which was written first Google machine?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Okay, this is Patty, Yes, this is yeah. No, what
it says Dennis is yes, No, this is Jason. It
says on there, Pat Bennettar, that's weird. Okay, I don't
know who cares.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I gotta know.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I have to know these things, like my idiot, it's
got to be in our system, right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, he's saying it's in our system, but.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Was playing it there off his computer.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But uh, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
We have we did have the Patty smythe song.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I played that, but yes, by scandal in this system
off the button bar. Yeah, yeah, so our I just
want to I just want to lay this out here
because we get on SAM a lot for this. Do
you think that I Heart Media, with thousands of radio
stations across this country and including Top forty programs of Casey,
CASEM and other that are run through this building, would
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have that song mislabeled? No, No, it's impossible. So whatever, Sam,
whatever you played from your button bar, which is a
radio term that nobody realizes that means. But that's how
he would bring up the song and play it. There's
no way that's wrong in the system.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
And I think that the YouTuber the YouTube post that
we just played, I think may have been like a
Doug Gottlieb disciple because.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Disciple on YouTube they missed mislabeled.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
They mislabeled at Pat bennettar because if you look for
the actual song I Am the Warrior about Pat Benatar
doesn't exist. I think the people confuse it. Our listener
who tweeted you is wrong. I think you were wrong,
and then I was wrong for playing a YouTube song
that was mislabeled Pat Benatar.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So there is no Pat Benatar song called the Warrior.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, I'm not finding one in our system. It doesn't
have every big hit by Pat Benatar in here, but
it has most of them, and I do not see
anything about the Warrior, So I think it is Patty's miife.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
We have settled this.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I believe, I believe I am wrong. Yeah, I think
I'm I'm wrong. Okay, here's the question, Dan, we don't
know the answer to this. How does it end between
Lebron and the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, I thought he was going to play out while
all the other teams throughout the season, he would be
a free agent next year and allow that frenzy to occur.
Then he would sign on for two years with that team,
a one on one deal, and then that next year
would be his final year. That's how I think it
ends up ending. The only thing that has moved me
off of that being one hundred percent to about ninety
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eight percent is all of this Cleveland crap that's going on.
And by crap, I'm not blaming Cleveland, but I'm learning
to golf. I'm wearing you know, the hats, the whole
deal that we've talked about for the last week, all
of that stuff said it last Sunday, like that stuff.
Like now it's like Lebron is on overdrive. He tweeted
more since he announced that he was opting into his
contract than he did the entire month of June over
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those five days.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, so Jay stew again, I know you like I
want to get into sports. There's not a sports discussion.
This is a how does it play out discussion? What
do you think happens?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
It just seems to me that they're gonna find a
way to move him before the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I wonder if they get to the trade deadline. Okay,
here's a telltale sign of how bad it is. Is
Bronny with the big club to start the year next year?
Is he with the big club? And does he play
as well? Like if he plays early on they're trying
to pacify him, they have him around in the regular season,
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then I don't. But if they're like, you know, he's
gonna do mostly G League this year, Keep developing, keep developing, Gookie,
keep developing, then I then Yeah, I think it could
be done earlier rather than later. And then the question
is if somebody's gonna pick him up next year, are
they gonna make him back draft Brice? Is that gonna
be part of the deal and take Bronnie with him.
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
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until he's got eight minutes to join us here as
he's in Vegas at the Summer League. Mark Stein joins
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
What was your takeaway from last night's MAVs Lakers Summer
League debut of Cooper Flag and Ronnie James two point zero?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Honestly, you're talking so much tennis thought to my first love.
I thought, I thought I finally found a gig talk
in tennis. But I'm guessing you probably want me to
stick to who so I will. Are you?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Are you joining us from a drive through? That's what
it does, sound like a drive through. Take some large
fries again something with the audio. It's not it's your
cell phone. We could do tennis just that right now,
we don't have to look.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was a circus as you would imagine. That's what
you expect. I mean, some believe he has become such
a bonanza onto itself. I think Flag pressed a little bit.
I think he forced some stuff. I thought, you know,
it was very physical in the first half. But look,
Jason Kidd announced to the world at the end of June,
the day that Cooper Flagg arrived in Dallas, Jason Kidd
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announced to the world, We're gonna put the ball in
his hands. We're gonna let him run point and the
Lakers were ready for it. They put him under a
lot of pressure. I mean, he wasn't exclusively running things.
Obviously Nepard was on the ball quite a bit as well.
But Jason Kidd said, they were going to put Cooper
Flag in some uncomfortable situations, and he got a taste of,
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you know, a higher level of defense than he's ever seen.
But he also made the right play a lot and
he just look, you know, I do not I am
not a college basketball connoisseur like you. Unless it involved
Charles State Tillerton. I do not have a ton of
experience watching Cooper Flag. Just seeing him and just how
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how huge he actually is at his position is quite remarkable.
I mean, he just he just is. He's a monster wing.
And you know, that was just the first taste. I'm
sure he's going to be much better tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's interesting. I watched, uh, I watched the game, and
I thought that Brownie looked improved and more confident. But
you and I have been watching some league. I got
a Chisel play in some league, and usually guys that
are back that play in the NBA, there's just an
ease by which they sort of dominate, and that was missing.
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He started out the game that way. Obviously he wasn't
able to sustain it. But I just think, you know,
the expectation level that he faces. And look, I mean,
he signed up for this. You you know, nobody is
going to you know, I think express a huge amount
of sympathy. This is this is you know what this
is what he signed up for. And uh, you know,
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if you're going to play on the big stage, you're
going to be analyzed in that manner. But you know, Honestly,
my focus was really more Flag and then a net
Part I thought was just sensational to step into the
you know, the Map obviously won the lottery, which they
had a tortured history in the lottery, but for Netpart
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to go undrafted and make it all the way to
them and the kind of performance that he put on,
I know they're super they're super encouraged and grateful that
he was able to fly to them and they were
able to get him.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Schwartz Radio. The great
thing about Vegas is it's basically the convention for the NBA.
Right agents are there, foreign teams are there, current players?
Are there? Lots of chatter there. What's the chatter in Vegas? Mark?
In regards to how this ends between the Lakers and Lebron.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I think I think teams around the league look at
it pretty realistically because they understand that because Lebron is
at sixty three million, it's just too hard to trade
him football. He also has no trade clause, one of
only two full no trade clauses in the league, so
it's like to come up with a trade, you have
to send him to a team he would be willing
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to go to that shortens the list dramatically, and you're
just you're not going to be able to assemble a
trade that gets the fifty three million without at least
one contract that the Lakers are not going to want
any part of. So I just don't think a trade
is realistic, and there's no incentive for the Lakers to
just buy him out and let him go. I mean, yes,
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you could make the argument it's Lebron James, one of
the all time greatest players in league history, and he
should have the right to go out on his own
terms because it's Lebron James. But you know, I don't
know that the Lakers are obligated to just say, you
know what, we're going to buy you out so you
can just go find with whoever you want to if.
If Lebron want is that that range of options. He
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could have just declined his fifty three million for this
year and gone to free agency and picked his team.
But once he opted in and activated his player option
for this coming season, he kind of gave up that right.
So I think the likelihood is he's gonna be a Laker.
I mean, I just don't see why the Lakers would say,
you know what, we're going to buy you out, go
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join the team of your choice. That it's not on
the Lakers. I don't think to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What would lead them to not communicate with them in
regards to, for example, the sale of the team.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I think from the moment they made the trade, this
became Luca Donte's teams. So until this point, for all
of Lebron's time in Los Angeles and again and if
he does play next season as a Laker, that'll be
eight seasons in a row as a Laker, his long
dist continuous runs with one team. But you know, once
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they made the trade, Luca became the team's vocal point.
So I don't it clear. It's clear they did not
feel obligated that they needed to share that with him,
because clearly their intention was they knew Lebron was going
to opt in.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But to the.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Lakers, this is the last year of the arrangement, and
you know, if Lebron has an issue with that, his
right as well. But if they owe him a heads
up on this, I guess it's debatable.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Uh, it looks and feels like Giannis is staying in Milwaukee.
Kevin durant Is in Houston. Who's left of a big
name that you believe will be moved in this offseason.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Look, I think the honest I can tell you when
you asked me, what are people chattering about in Vegas?
I'm sorry, I'm trying to I literally just got out
of jumped out of maneuver, got to my next spot.
I'm trying to find it quietly, having having issues pulling
that off. Jonas's answer to the question are you are
you staying in Milwaukee? Was you know, probably yes? Probably
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so that that answer was open ended enough to get
everyone in Vegas talking about that, and just how firm
is probable? You know, probably is not as firm I'm
sure as the Bucks were hoping. So he's not going
anywhere until he goes to the Bucks and says I
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want to be traded. Unless Yiannis takes that step, the
Bucks are not going to trade him. But the answer
he gave on that stream, I can tell you more
than a team or two out here in the desert
feels like the door was cracked a jar and anew
So I think, honestly, I think teams are more curious
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about Yanni's the future than Lebron's at this point, and
also just the sheer reality of it. We don't know
how many more years Lebron has left. He could easily
play more than one if he wants to on pure
talent and ability. But you're not going to give up
a ton of your future assets to get someone who
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might only play a year or two more. Whereas Yiannis
obviously any team that could get him from Milwaukee if
it ever came to pass that he tries to force
his way out of the Bucks. You're suddenly looking at
a new franchise player, a new face of your franchise.
So it's it's really the honest thing that people are
are diving into right now.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I would say, Mark Stein kind of have to join
us in between things in Vegas. Check out the steinline.
It's an outstanding substack. Mark you the best, Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Bye, We're so rush today. I'll do better next time.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Now We're good, dude, You're good. Great, great insight, great information.
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(24:45):
of confidence that Giannis returns to your Bucks next season?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Fairly high. I feel that he will be back. That
comment helped. Also, everything just taking place as it already did.
There were some at the beginning of this saga felt
that Jannis was going to be the first Domino and
then Kevin Durant would follow because the teams that were
interested in Durant obviously would also be interested in Janis
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and maybe prefer Jianis over Durant. And so when Durant
was traded, I thought that that was quite the signal.
And it just doesn't seem to be any traction. I
think I said to you this weeks ago, I have
yet to see a trade proposal put by anybody that
knows the NBA and loves this stuff that would satisfy
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both parties, and I just just haven't seen it. And
all of them are like, the Bucks would say no.
The Bucks would say no, The Bucks would say no.
He's a difficult asset to trade, and so that's why
I think he ends up staying Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I saw this, and I thought it was really interesting.
Let's start to college football Big Twelve media days. They
had their media days this week in at the Star
in I think it's in Arlington where the Cowboys headquarters are.
My gun. He's head coach of Oklahoma State. He's the
longest tenured head coach in the Big Twelve. He's one
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of the longest tenure head coaches in all the college
football now, and he said this to Andy Staples. In
regards to Nil.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I almost was just I thought this will go away.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Surely this can't last.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
And then it just kept building momentum. And then after
a point about eighteen months ago, I said, this is
not going away. We're gonna have to make some real
adjustments here. So the truth be known. This portal class
from January is the first class that we ever bought.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
We had not bought portal goods. Wow, that hurt us.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Hurt us the last year or so from a depth standpoint.
And then that was nobody's fault. That's not the administration's fault,
not the donors. That was really kind of my fault
because what I had done was taken money that had
been raised through donations and spreaded amongst the troops somewhat
evenly to the current players. We didn't go out and
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solicit for players and pay them to come to our team.
We did that starting in December, which I think we.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
All would agree. If you don't do that, you're not
going to survive. It's look, it's really really interesting. And
obviously my level of college basketball is lower than his
level of college football. Right He's at the power for
highest level, and now they're buying guys. I just good, Look,
this is going to be an interesting year for a
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place like oklen State, place like ours, you know, anywhere
in between, because for a lot of us, this is
year one of this new and different world, you know,
and it's no different if this is like free agency.
The free agency hit hit rate in the National Football League. Okay,
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so you think, hey, they got the best scout, they
have NFL tape. These aren't college players emerging to being
NFL players. An NFL free agent is from an NFL
team from one team to the next. The hit rate
is threty three percent. So now imagine you're in college
football and this is the first time that you're paying guys,
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you're bringing them over you're trying to do your research.
You're trying to know what you're getting. Are they hurt?
You know, what's their issue? Why do they want to leave?
Is it money? How much money do we pay this guy?
It's a little bit of liar's poker because they're always
telling you, hey, look he's worth this much, and really
it's usually about half that much. But you don't want
to lose him, and you don't want to lose them
to somebody in your league. And hey, coach k State's interested,
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to hey, coach Texas Tech's interested, whatever. And again you're
at OKLHOA State. You don't have more money than Texas Tech.
You don't have more money than somebody's other programs. But again,
if they hit rate in the NFL, and we would
all agree that or believe that the NFL is probably
scouted better, especially the NFL to NFL because you're not
changing levels, you're not going from low major to mid
major D two to D one, that it's got the
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best scouts in the world, especially in the NFL, not
just college, because they miss a lot in college. Hit
rate thirty three percent, I would guess that's at the
high bar for what people will do in terms of
getting their money's worth in the portal this year, Daniel
had looked like you wanted to get on this.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, I just I found that the Gundhy comments were
so interesting just because of the season that Oklahoma State
had last year, when the year priorly they were a
ten win team and I think played in the Big
Twelve title game. At least they were second in the conference,
and then to not win a conference game the next year,
and then to hear Gundhy say that, I don't know
if that was the only problem, but Olli Gordon was
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back last year. I remember Jason and I when we
were looking at tickets, says you were about to coach
your first game. We're like, all right, do the Cowboys
play Arizona State. We thought Oklahoma State was the the
team to watch that day as we were getting you know,
planning for it at the start of the season, and
they go zero to nine in league play. And there's
probably other factors, but that revelation right there, I think
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says a lot to what you've said as well of
just where the money is. So if they weren't even
playing the game of nil, that could be reflected in
their one nine conference record.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, no, it's it's they did. He's he's being clever
with it, right, make no mistake about it. Oli Gordon
was paid a handsome sum of money to come back.
And what they did for Lineman was they they kept
they had a bunch of six year seniors, and they
they gambled on hey, retention and having guys that have
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cohesiveness and play together and want to be here that
will be better than the free agents. And then they
just weren't good enough, right, there was a reason. There's
a reason that they're available.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, I would say, then he did a great job
because I was fooled, you know, like to your words
of like to your well.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
He's not he's not lying, but he's also it's it's
like a politician, right, he's he's well, I just thought
this was gonna go away like you did.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Come on, dude, and it's I don't want to say
that it's easy to take an O on to nine
conference schedule, but if you put it in the new landscape,
you could be like, oh okay, I see and it
could buy you a little more time.
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Speaker 1 (31:54):
The inability for people to actually listen and we can
play for you this sound if you'd like. Some guy
named Scott listened to our show. He's a Fresno State fan,
a Raiders fan, and a Lakers fan that tracks in
the five to five nine. Anyway, I said, Doug, comparing
(32:15):
Brownie or any athlete for that matter, to a make
a Wish kid is so very unacceptable. You could have
said some low level D three player, You're better than that.
Do better. This is what really upsets me when somebody
quotes me on Twitter to the exact opposite thing that
I said. Sam If you'd like to pull the tape,
you can. We don't need to, I believe, I said,
(32:35):
And you guys, we have three other audio witnesses in
Dan Bayer and Jason Stewart in Iowa. Sam I said,
it's not like he's a make a Wish kid that
they plucked out of the stands. Skid player. Just doesn't
look like an NBA player where after a year in
the league, you're of service in the league. He dominates
(32:57):
a game, which did I say buyer?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, you said the latter.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, okay, let's get to the press, the press, what
do you got there that?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Did you call Ronnie make a Witch? Like a year
ago when he was getting drafted. Could that have been
so because he didn't seem like I don't want to
say that he earned his spot as you know what
you said that he's not one of the four hundred
and fifty best players in the world that would make
an NBA roster. Correct, But there was the when he
was drafted or brought in it did feel like.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
It was Yeah, they could they treated him like he's
won Sure treated black one.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
How about this story from twenty years ago. It was
the story that former Steelers director of Player Personnel Doug
Whaley was able to tell on ninety three point seven
The Fan in Pittsburgh that when Aaron Rodgers was falling
in the NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steeler had a decision
to make. It was twenty twenty five, one less than
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a year after Ben Roethlisberger was named Offensive Player of
the Year and leading the Steelers to the AFC Championship Game.
But Wayley said that they had Aaron Rodgers higher on
their draft board and they were sitting there at number thirty,
and if the Packers didn't pick him at number twenty four,
they would have had a decision to make at thirty.
(34:26):
Do you buy that?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Sure? Sure, I buy it. I believe it to be
true that it was a surprise to everybody. If you
remember that draft, he was sitting there alone, correct, in
the draft room.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Right, But the Steelers are coming off of a season
when they went fifteen to one with your rookie quarterback
who was just the offensive player of the year.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
No noly Again though, they had like sitting there going
like what do we do we have this guy? Do
I think that means they would have taken him? I don't,
But been a hard decision to pass the guy that
they had rated that hardly would have.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I don't I think this is revisionist history, No doubt.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's revisious history. I don't think they're gonna draft him.
But if the statement is, hey, it was kind of hard,
Like we're like, oh my god, it's Aaron Rodgers is
going to be there, Like, did you guys check him out?
Did wed? Did somebody go evaluate him? We never thought
we'd be in the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes, and like here
he could be in. The Packers took him.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It just it seems like something that they'll go to
Melissa's Stark down on the sidelines of their Steelers game
and say, like, the Steelers they had an interest twenty
years ago, but of course they had a guy by
the name of Ben Roethlisberger. Back up to you, Mike,
that's what it reads. Am I right? Jason gave me
a look, Am I right?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah? Bet it feels Listen, it does feel like revisionist history,
but there's always a little bit of truth to the
revision's history. Where he was sitting there and like, wait,
what what do we what do we do here?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
How about this one?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Julio Rodriguez the Mariners not playing in the All Star
Game because he wants to rest, saying he wants to
be there for his team in the second half of
the year, so he's not going to Atlanta. He was
a reserve outfielder for the American League.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm glad he's really taxing. I gotta get on that plane.
I gotta fly to the All Star Game. They're gonna
do a little BP and I gotta sign autographs. Are
they gonna wait? Are they gonna play for two innings?
Maybe take a couple of swings and I get back
on a plane. Go on in my family?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So which of the snubs is gonna take his place?
A big snub list from Monday? Which is gonna We
already got a couple of fill ins. U Ryan and
his family really want that to happen.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah, Chill Ryan of the Twins was a snub.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Carlos Rodin has been named a replacement for his teammate
Max Freed mikel Garcia. The Royals added replacing Brandon Lau
of the Tampa Bay Rays, so those are coming in.
And the Chicago Bear give Jim Ryan Poles an extension
through the twenty twenty nine season.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Did not know that Ryan Poles got extended? Huh Yes,
I mean they did improve when they made a big
trade last year defensively, but new coach, new staff, new
offensive game plan. Bears are all in on Ryan Poles
and Caleb Williams. We shall see Bay get out there
and press.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
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