May 24, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug reacts to the news that the NCAA and the power five conferences are going to allow schools to directly pay athletes. Doug welcomes NBA Analyst Antonio Daniels onto the show to preview the Western Conference Finals game two, the Celtics and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a Friday edition of "The Press".
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he's the analyst for the Pelicans. We'll have him analyze
what happened last night with the Celtics and whether or
not the Pacers have any chance now down two games
to none. And then of course we got to get
ready for Game three, Wolves taken on the Wolves take
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usum me. Game two Wolves taking on the Dallas Mavericks.
See if the Wolves can steal a steal a win,
as the Mavericks looked really impressive behind Kyrie and Luca
combining for sixty three points in Game one. But there
is a there's a big kind of change or feels
like or we're in the process of change with the
NCAA as these schools I believe, or the NCAA is in.
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The NCAA is just member institutions, right, it's basically the
House of Representative. No, it's not the House, it's the
Senate because everybody has sort of the same vote and
that doesn't sit well with a lot of the big boys.
But the big boys are going to pay forty percent
of the freight with these three different class action lawsuits
over name, image, and likeness, even though most of the
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actions were incurred by ninety nine percentile by the power five.
Everyone else is going to pay the sixty percent and
it's caused many people to believe amateurism is dead. Damageurroo
is over. Here's Paul Feinbaum on his show talk about
the NCAA. A lot of schools to directly pay players.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
This is the most significant day in the history of
the NCAA because the sham that the NCAA has always
been is over. They've always fought on every mountain to
defend the right that this is really amateur athletics, when
we've all known that has not been the case for
a long time. And finally they had to agree to
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it in court to avoid what to avoid literally going
out of business because had this case gone to trial,
they would have been wiped out. I mean, if you
agree to settle something for two point eight billion dollars,
can you imagine how much exposure you had. So the NCAA,
plus the conferences that were dragged into it alongside, simply
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wave the white flag.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They have the money.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
This isn't really to further student athletes quote unquote so
to speak. This is to prevail and preserve their own
ability to continue to be in existence.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, there's a bunch of lies that were told in there.
A lot of these schools do not have the money.
They just don't. And the utter lack of character that
Paul has is so obvious. Look, I understand he's in
the South, and in the South they've always had the
belief that's football above all else, that hey, you know,
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grease and the palms, the one hundred dollars. Handshake is
no big deal. And the truth is that I've always
believed that what I've received in my career post career
is the true nil. It's really what it's about. You
build up a name brand for yourself and then you
use it post career. The rules have changed and it's
allowed for nil. The issue though, is, look, the only
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sham is that the smaller schools have to pay for
something that really had nothing to do with them zero zero.
But the reason they're doing it is so the NCAA
tournament continues pumping out money, keeping all these athletic departments alive,
keeping Division one athletics united, because the second it breaks up,
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that's the second that many of these athletic programs go away.
The sports program goes away. So too does all the scholarships,
not just for basketball, but for all the other sports
that it supports. There isn't this whole They have the money, Yes,
there are schools that have the money. There are lots
of schools that do not. And it's you know, I mean, honestly,
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we talk about journalism and the honesty or like there
of honesty and journalism, nothing is worse than this because
there's utter and complete dishonesty by so many who can
cover it are? You know, and they don't know what
they don't know? It's like, well, why don't you just
make them employees? Do you have any idea what an
abject disaster that would be? You know, most of the
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benefits that student athletes get, now many of them would
go away. Would we still have power five athletics, Absolutely,
but the rest would very much be up in the air.
And the idea of an athletic scholarship is to provide
a scholarship for somebody who because of their work, Because
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of their work, they have earned the right to go
to school for free. And remember, like you get cost
of attendance, players have already gotten at most schools what's
called the CoA cost of attendants and it basically is
a leveling up of the playing field of what you know,
you could make if you work locally in order to
you know, be around the school. So there's just a
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lot of things that people don't know. All I can
tell you is I believe that this keeps the NCAA intact.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
There's been a lot of talk of the two major
conferences at least, if not more breaking apart. I think
it keeps it intact. That's the only reason the smaller
schools would pay sixty percent of the freight when they
did zero percent of the damages or one percent of
the damages. But the issue continues to be that, for
whatever reason, there's many members of the media that it's
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like they like the downfall of anything seen as in power.
That's what you're seeing across these college campuses. There's a
direct parallel there. It's this idea of protesting and uprooting
and changing and fighting whatever power is seen as being
in charge. Like, yeah, that sounds that's fine, okay, but
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you see what happens with college campuses when you just
want to be a disruptor, you actually celebrate a side
that doesn't want anything to do with you. And in
college athletics, you disrupt, you disrupt a system which most
have benefited from at an incredible level. Incredible level. All right,
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we got to get you to Game two of the
Western Conference Finals as the Wolves take on the Nuggets.
We'll hear from Chris Finch upcoming. Then Antonio Daniels is
going to join us. Of course, Tone played for the
NBA Championship. We were talking about best best times to
have a beer like more of the day, weekend is
good like in parts of Warren's Warm last last hour
(07:19):
we talked about you know, shower beer, post post, uh,
mowing the grass beer, beach beer, golf beer, softball beer,
bowling beer also underrated as well. But I have another
question for you guys. This is a big one. Uh
beach or lake beach er lake? And this is a
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hard one, right and and I'm and I'm also I
have to make sure we're talking May Lake. So May
Lake is not super warm like August Lake is, but
still should be in most places decently warm, also cleaner
in May than it will be in August. But it
doesn't have the sh sh sh of of of a
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of an ocean front beach. Jay stu beach your lake?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Oh no, I'm I'm obviously biased with beach my entire wife.
I don't even know if I've been to a lake
to have beers. To be honest, it's all about the beach.
It's all about the ocean. You can body surf, and
it's better.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Can a lake. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You cannot body surf in a lake, but you can
you can actually swim and you can actually swim in
a lake. You can float in a lake. You ever
seen those big foam like pads you can put out
there next to a boat and you can like float,
kids can like run around the foam foam pad. Uh.
It's easier to wakeboard and wake surf on a lake
than it is in the ocean Monsey Lake or ocean Ocean.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, I I don't I've ever been to a lake
and like hung out.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I don't know if I've ever done that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That's great because we have two people, Doug and Sam,
that have lived in the middle of the country and
they've been to lots of lakes. And to think that
two people on your show, Doug have never been to
a lake. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I just think that that's part of that's got to
be part of the Gottlieb road trip. Yeah, I mean,
I'm I'm literally I don't. I think it would take
a couple of different clubs, but I would it would
definitely be a driver or two from the from a
lake and it woulds you know, Lake Michigan, which is
in Green Bay. Can't believe they've been.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What do you like, Sam?
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I you know lake Lake front property is beautiful, lakes
are beautiful. I'm gonna go with the ocean, though, I'm
gonna go with the ocean. Uh well, you know, I
grew up in a state with a lot of dirty lakes,
you know, and if you ingest the water by accident,
maybe dive in off the pontoon u you could get
giardia or you could not. It's a gamble. A lot
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of dirty lakes in Iowa. They're muddy, they're not clear.
I like a lake if it's nice, it's like you know,
ice or or I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You live in California. There are beaches that are closed
because they have Yes, they have sewer run up.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
That is true. That is true. But you just you don't.
You don't want to accidentally swallow a little bit of
lake water in Iowa. You could end up, you know,
getting something real nasty, some kind of gut eating amieba
or something. I'm gonna go ahead and go with the
beach the ocean. But you know, I did have a
lot of great memories growing up where I was, you know,
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in a lake, fishing, swimming.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What have you stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports radio.
I would say, Uh, I'm actually more of a lake guy,
but I like them both. I'm gonna kind of hedge
on this one. You know. I like walking along a beach.
I like, you know, hopping into the water because it's
especially California beach, because it's refreshing. But I don't think
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anything with hopping into a fairly warmed lake as opposed
to as opposed the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
And on Lake Michigan, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, Now that's the spells of an ocean. You can't
beat the sound of an ocean. You can't beat. But
you know, anything you have that you have issues with
with lakes, you have issues with with oceans. You can
have rip currents, you can have you know, uh, contagions
or whatever. You can have lots of you have waves
that are too big. The fact is Pacific Ocean is
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pretty cold. So yeah, there there can be issues with lakes.
We can have just as many issues with just as
many issues with the ocean.
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Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So tonight's Game two, Dallas
taking on the Timberwolves, and like the kind of part
for the course, right, Dallas goes on the road, gets
a win. We saw Indiana probably should have gotten a
win in game one. Game two kind of tells the story,
kind of tells the tale of a series gigantic amount
of pressure on Minnesota. But I would expect them and
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Anthony Edwards to play play far better like I just do.
And you know, it's interesting we continue to say this,
but I mean, you can watch two NBA games in
the exact same series with one day in between the
two games and have a completely different opinion of it.
So as much as you may be convinced by game
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by you know game one, Hey, you know Luca Diven
play well the first three course and they still won,
the fact is that it's a game to game deal.
And I think the Wolves have a ton of weaponry
to adjust to. And the question becomes do they move
up the drop defense? Right? Playing in the drop is
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and they play a very deep where they're protecting in
the middle lane and trying to have you take and
make those mid range pull ups. And Kyrie erving either
didn't take the bait or when he did, he made him.
He was he was remarkable, really remarkable. But I do
think that, I mean, I would guess this game will
look far different. Wolves will look different in game two,
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just like Boston who survived Game one, looked different in
game two. You know, you adjust the rotations a little bit,
you adjust the actions a little bit. The other part
to it, though, which is interesting, is you know Kyri
Anthony Edwards as good as he was defensively in the
last series, I mean they took down Denver, and how
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he played against Jamal Murray. He couldn't guard. He absolutely
could not guard Kyrie. And for people like, well, you know,
is aren't they the same if you can guard one
guy and guard the next, Like now that the truth
is that Jamal Murray is he had he had help,
he had McDaniels, and he also a He's not nearly
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the true kind of point guard like Kyrie canby and
carries on a true point guard, but the moves are
more point guard type guard type of moves as opposed
to he's more of a shooter and plays for his
jump shot. Kyrie can shoot and shot it pretty well
the other night. But the best thing he does is
I mean he just gets buy and gets the rim
and finishes. You know, well, ask Antonio Daniels. He knows
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better because he played thirteen years in the NBA. He'll
join us up coming next. Doug Alan Cholier Lava at
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Speaker 6 (14:34):
Studiosscus versus meniscus.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, right, a lot of illiteration there, Jay stew I
knew you'd like that.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Novak Djokovic, he is going to try to defend his
French Open title, but he actually has lost to the
Geneva Open to Thomas Mahatch. He lost in three sets.
This is the semi finals of the Geneva Open. So
he this was the last you know, court clay court
tuneup he could have had before his French Open. Djokovic loses.
He has not one on a tournament in twenty twenty four.
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In baseball, Rob Manfred said the league deferred to federal
investigators regarding the theft of money from Shoheo Tani by
his interpreter Ipamisujara, just because the Feds have a lot
more tools than Major League Baseball does. And on the ice,
it's game two of the East Final. The puck drops
from New York at eight pm Eastern time as the
Panthers take on the Rangers. Florida leads that series one zero.
(15:22):
Back to you, Doug, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Much, Monsie. Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
rules on Let's welcome in. He's an outstanding analyst. He
covers the Norans Pelicans. Of course, he won NBA Championship.
Is a part of the NBA Spurs dynasty going back
twenty five years ago. He's Antonio Daniels. He joins in
the Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
(15:47):
ton Let's start with tonight's game. Work our way kind
of backwards. Game one Kyrie early was awesome and then
the fourth quarter Luca closed up shop. I thought some
of it was matchups, some of it was Anthony struggled.
What do you think we see tonight in comparison?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
You know what do I think?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
For me?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Uh, this is why I enjoy the postseason so much
because of the adjustments. You want to see if the
team has the ability to make in between games, like
in the Minnesota Dember series, to see if Denver could
match the physicality of Minnesota. Right in Games three and
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four and five, and they did and they didn't win
that series. I'll tell you the big thing I'm watching
tonight because you know Doug more than anybody. This league
is all about match ups. It is all about match ups,
and the Minnesota Timberwolf has They have excellent point of
attack defenders. I know Rudy Gobert is the defensive player
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of the Year. I can get on my soapbox about
that at another point, but they have excellent point of attack.
The defenders. Jana McDaniels, Nikillelea Walker, Ethney Edwards are all
really good defenders. Kyrie Irvin and Luca are completely different
animal though completely They're completely different than Jamal Murray right
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and their shot making ability, what they're capable of. I
am so interested to see if Chris Fitz can change
his pick and roll covers tonight to make life a
little more difficult on Kyrie Irving and Luca, and in
particular Rudy Gobert, because this is one thing you knew
come in into this series that Kyrie Irving, Luca and
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Jason Kidd are going to target that matchup. They're going
to put Rudy in every possible defensive screening situation to
force him the movie set. So can Chris match counter
that by maybe trapping the pick and roll Hart heading
the pick and roll, bringing Rudy Gobert up? Does he
have the foot speed as a defensive player of the
year to now match up with Kyrie Irving and Luca
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on the perimeter.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, let me ask you. You've seen these teams in person,
who called all these teams? Does he have the foot speed?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I don't think so. And that's the thing is, now
you have to possibly play in a way you haven't
played all year. Maybe now you go smaller, Maybe you
play Niles Reed at the five. You know, but I
don't feel like there should be any scenario where the
quote unquote defensive player of the Year gets played off
the floor.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
What do you do with Derek Lively in the lane?
How do you move them out of the way.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Well, for me, it's not just Derek Livey or Daniel Gaffert,
it's being able to contain the gerble penetration of Luca
and Kyrie because that compromises everything behind you. So if
if you're in drop coverage, now Kyrie is so good
at turning the corner and finishing with either hands. Luca
does a great job of using pick and roll scenarios
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and putting that defender in his back pocket right so
now when I'm not going to allow you back in front.
So now, if I'm Rudy Gobert, I'm in no mental land.
If I go to Dereck Grively, Luca has a pop
shot at five feet. Now if I over commit myself Luca,
he's throwing alive to Darrick Blidley. So a lot of
times when these guys are dominating the paint, whether it's
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Jones Junior catching the lob or Lively catching the lob,
or Gafford's catching lobber PJ Washington catching the lob, is
all at the point of attack. And the fact that
Luca and Kyrie are breaking down the Minnesota Timberwolves perimeter defense.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, let's get to last night. Jalen Brown has been
just outstanding. Jason Tatum not as much. So what do
you think is behind Brown outshining Jason Tatum so far
in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I'll be honest with you, Doug, I don't care until
they start losing. This won't become it. This won't become
a story until Boston loses. And right now, Boston Ramborough, Miami,
Boston ram through Cleveland, and I think they're going to
run through the Indiana Pacers, especially if Terse Halliburton isn't
able to go because of.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The ham string.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
And we've seen that take some players out this postseason.
We see Zion not play this postseason. We saw what
they did to o Gana Noby and the New York
of Nick, so it would be interested to see how
healthy he is to go. But if they run through
the Indiana Pacers, if I'm a Boston Celtics fan, I
don't care who the hero is as long as we
win the championship. Now, if this whole thing happens and
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now you move on to play the Minnesota tim Wolves
or Dallas Mavericks and this happened and you don't win
the championship, now you've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
On your hands.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
But as long as they continue to win, I don't care.
And that's it for me. That's the championship thought process.
I don't care who gets the credit as long as
we win.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
If you're the Lakers, who would you hire?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Oh man, Honestly, give me, give me some choices. Give
me my choices, give me my options.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
James Barrego. I mean, everybody want to talk about JJ
JJ Barrego, I don't know, you know, lots of uh
what was my man? Why am I forgetting that was
the nets head coach. He's been assist with the Warriors.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Jenny Akison, Jenny Atkinson, Yeah, Yeah, for me, I would
go with James Barrego. One. I know James JB has
a hecker. He's in heck of an offensive mine. He
is a great offensive mind. We had him in New
Orleans this entire year as the Choca head coach. And
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I've also known JB from way Bank when he was
in San Antonio. But here's the reason why, Because when
you're talking about Sam Casale, when you're talking about JJ Reddick,
is nothing against those guys. I just don't understand the
purpose of hiring a rookie head coach into a championship
or bus situation. I don't understand why the men, why
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the Milwaukee Bucks hired Asrin Griffiths and to a championship
of bus situation, Why the Los Angeles Lakers hired darvinham
and to a championship er bus situation. Because there's an
expectation there that they can't they can't exceed, they can't
not as a rookie head coach. Think darvinham was hired
as a rookie head coach.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, hold On Tyler was a rookie head coach. He
won a title. He the our as a rookie head coach.
He won a title.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
The thing is they're winning the title. That's the thing
about the Lakers. If you don't win the title, it's
deemed as being unsuccessful.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
No, no, I got it, ton I got it. I
understand that some would even I don't think the Lakers
are a championship caliber team. I don't even think they
think they don't neither, But not.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
What you and I think. It's what they think about themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I granted. But but in terms of hiring a rookie coach,
like I just gave you too, there's plenty more examples
of guys that have been plenty successful. It's it's which guy.
And as much as Barrego's coach before and if you
say he's the offensive mastermind, I believe it because you
know it, you've lived it. But the point is that
what's the difference between Barrego, who has been a head coach,
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but not a good one, you know, by by the
same same metrics, or a jaj Ridick who hasn't been
a head coach.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
The thing about a guy who hasn't been is like
all the guys that you talk about that are rookie
head coaches that you say are successful. Now, again, success
isn't the same for all teams, you know, the goal
isn't the same for all teams. So like, for example,
the Orlando Magic made it to the first round of
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the playoffs and they were eliminated, but they had a
great season. They had a successful season. Right. The Oklahoma
City Thunder made it to the second round of the
playoffs and got ousted by the Dallas Mavericks, but they
had a great season. The Los Angeles Lakers, their thought
process about the Los Angeles Lakers, to me is what's different.
That's what's different. Because they feel like as long as
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they have Lebron, anything less than a championship, anything less
than a championship, is deemed unsuccessful. And if that's the case, why, Like,
for example, Adrian Griffin wants seventy percent of his games.
He wants seventy percent of his game and he got
fired anyway as a rookie head coach. Now you bring
in Doc Rivers, who has won a championship with the
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Boston Celtics. But when you have a head coach in place,
a lot of times they're given a sense of grace.
Frank Vogo obviously wasn't. He wasn't given that Similus of grades.
Doc Rivers was under five hundred in Milwaukee, and no
one's talking about it, no one's discussing it. But yet
Adrian Griffin was fired after winning seventy percent of his games,
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and he got fired for what rookie head coaches to me, now,
like Charles Lee and Charlotte, that's a great fit. That's
a great fit head coaches. We're in a situation where
they get an opportunity to grow and learn. I am
all on board with that, But when you're bringing him
into a situation that is that pressurized where if they
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don't win a championship, now they're on the hot seat.
I struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What do you think happens in Cleveland? You know I
was told that, you know, Donovan Mitchell was behind all
of that. Of course, behind all of that. I mean,
you got they didn't acquiesce to Lebron as much as
they're acquiescing to Donod Mitchell.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Well, the thing is, like you, I don't think anything
happens with coaches nowadays without the star player being behind it.
This is the player empowerment era at his finans, Like,
do you really think that kd and booked and Beale
if they wanted Frank Vogler to be their head coach,
he would be their head coach.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
If Jannis and Dame Lillard wanted Edrian Griffin to be
the head coach, you would be their head coach. If
Lebron and Anthony Davis wanted darbnhim to be their head coach,
you would be their head coach. The same goals with
Donovan Mitchell in in Cleveland forgiven. Now, I'll tell you
what would surprise me, Doug. What would surprise me now
is that Donovan Mitchell doesn't sign the extension. That would
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surprise me if he doesn't, because it was almost like
this was a this was something that was just us.
You know what, I'll stay here in Cleveland and I'll
sign the extension, but I want some say on who
the next head coach is because me and j B
Bickerstaff fill in the blank.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Again.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
I don't know how this works. I don't know how
this works.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know you nailed it, you nailed what you know
what like Lebron does, he kind of stays away, but
he lets it be known. Everybody's trying to figure out
what he wants. But your point is accurate, Like who
he wants to be the head coach or he doesn't
want to be the head coach. If he wants it done,
it'll be done. That's that's the that's the that's the
power too.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
This is what I mean though, Doug, like, as a coach,
what are my options? Because like what you heard about
Adrian Griffin is he made them uncomfortable, right. He told
Brook Lopez, I want you to show on the screen,
you know, different defensive adjustmentes. They didn't like it. Okay,
so he's gone right. We saw Anthony Davis and the
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playoffs say we didn't know what we were doing. Next thing,
you know, Darmenham's gone right. We saw Frank both please
all year for a point guard, but they towed him
in the top. You know what, you don't need any
point guard, so they failed. He's gone. Now you hear JB.
Bickerstaff was too involved and two hands on and shoot
around and practice. What is the coach supposed to do?
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Where is the balance? That's my question.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I don't know. I wish I could tell you I knew.
I don't know. I do know that you know a
little bit more about some of some of those the
last two. But but your point is accurate, you know,
and that some of these guys you have to want
a championship to have credibility, but nor to credibility, you
have to win a championship too. That that pretty sure,
that that part is really championship.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
And then and then to win a championship you need
time and the backing of the front office.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
If in hand together, who's the actual best player in
the league?
Speaker 9 (27:50):
The best for the league? To me is Nicola Jokisch.
I don't think that's debatable. I don't think that just
because he got beaten seven games by the Minnesota Timberwolves
for Nuggets won't repeat. I don't think that's debatable.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I agree I the first the second part, I agree
with the first part. You know, where is Luca in comparison.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
To to Nikola Jokic, Yeah, I don't know. I think
there's Nikola Jokics and everybody else. You can put Luca
where you want to. You know, you think you want
that next year down. N I think lucas they want
that next year down.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Why would you have why would you have the same tier?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
None? Because Nikola Yokis, to me as is in a
position that he's earned where he's by himself right now.
Like the thing is, it's tough to say Luca is
on the same tier as Nikola Yogis when Nikola Jokis
has won a championship, he's won the finals, MVP and
he's a three time MVP. If I'm starting a team,
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if I'm starting a team, I don't know anything else.
I don't know anything else as far as roster construction
is concerned. I am starting one hundred percent of the
time with Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Ooh, I would say to me, it's sixty four pre Jokic.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But Luca would be the other one, you know. Just again,
both of them are incredible passers, both of them have
a flair for the dramatic. Both of them have some
limitations defensively, but seem to know how to cover it. Yeah,
that's that's that's one of.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Them, one of them knows how to play without the
ball in his hands.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Though.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
That's my that's my only thing with Lucas. That's fair,
that's my that's my soul. That's my sole issue that
I'm outside of the complaining to the officials. That's my
sole issue with Lucas. You know, it's like for me
to a certain sense, it's like Dames Harden with the
Houston Rockets, where everything has to go through him. He handles,
he handles, pick and roll, pick and roll, pick and roll.
He gets to shoot or he gets to throw to
(29:42):
someone else. You know, it's I don't know how he
operates with someone else for a consistent amount of time. Now,
him and Kyrie Irving, they figure some things out. They
have figured some things out. But there was a reason
that the Houston Rockets went out and got Chris Paul.
There's a reason the Houston Rockets went out and got
Russell way Rook and try to put someone alongside James Harden,
(30:03):
even though his stats were ghani and great, that style
of play, to me, isn't really conducive to winning without
another guy to offset what that guy does.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're the best telling I really appreciate joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Man for sure. Always I always love this man. Thanks
for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's my guy. Antonio Daniels play thirteen years in the NBA,
remember the Spurs championship team. Of course he's color analyst
for the Orlans Pelicans. But obviously in terms of the
league and how it really is and really should be
talked about it, I respect a lot of people. He
is at the top of any of those lists.
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the air. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Angel
Reese deleted tweet not her best work right there, Monsie,
not her best work.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, I don't know why she deleted it.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I mean I guess she was getting a lot of heat,
because that's the only reason it didn't even make twenty
four hours. She tweeted this on Thursday seven forty two pm.
It says, I mean she's in Chicago, but this was Thursday,
and this comes on the heels of Lebron James Charles
Barkley giving Caitlin Clark her flowers basically for what she
(31:45):
is doing to the WNBA. So Angel Reese, her tweet
that is now deleted, said this quote and that's getting
on and that's sorry, and that's on getting a w
in a packed area, not just because of one player
on our charter flight Kissinamoji hashtag skytown. So she meant
(32:12):
arena probably, but she's put area in a packed area.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
So obviously that was a dis right at Caitlyn Clark. Yes, yeah,
like there's no way to say it wasn't correct.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Yeah, Well, the.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Word win is capitalized. It is capitalized in your face.
This team wins, it's a packed arena. And then she
brings up charter flights, right.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Which is because of Katelyn Clark, but also like, Caitlyn's
not on the same flight as Angel, So, like, what
that doesn't even make sense at all at all. She's
talking about herself basically, but she's not. She's talking about Caitlyn.
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
And did they play like in a big arena or
was it like a twelve thousand arena?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Was it like an eighteen thousand arena?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Because when they play in winterest it's decent size. I
don't know, it's I mean, I mean, I don't understand that.
I actually do understand this is to be honest, manci
women are the most petty, jealous creatures the Lord has
ever created, right.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
No, cap, I mean it's just what is women empowerment?
Because that's not that's not a thing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, the problem is not women empowerments. The problem is that,
like when guys empower them, women just take shots to
each other.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Right, But I'm saying, like women empowerment within women, like
that's not a real thing, And yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's a very weird part of the battle of the
sexes that us guys don't know anything about. I don't
get it. I agree, Like, all right, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
I one thousand percent agree with you. We are petty
and we don't support each other. And this is just
one example of many.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But she's always press.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Well, let's actually talk a little bit about Lonzo ball.
Lonzo Baal has not played in over two years. January fourteen,
twenty twenty two, was the last time we saw him
because of.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
All of his knee injuries. On his what an experienced pod.
This is what he said. He hasn't really said much
about his knee. Hear what he said.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
To make a long story shore, Ultimately, it started with
a miniscus tear basically started on the Lakers on tour.
It the first time. I tore a couple more times
to a point to where there was no more miniscus
left and bone on bone was rubbing. So the carlage
was gone and the bone was messed up. So I
had to get new miniscus from a donor. I had
to get a bone outograph, and I had to get
some new carllage put in as well. All that, you know,
(34:25):
held up, and now I'm back on the court.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
Okay, what a blessing really.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was about fourteen fifteen months in now. So the stuff
before that, we were trying to figure out what the
problem was. So that was a wasted year.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
But now we're here, so wasted here, But seems like
now he's on the truck to come back and play.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah. I mean, but the party didn't say. Is the
Lakers believe right? The Lakers believe that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
The shoes he was wearing, right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, that it was it was the big baller brench
you know, that's their belief. There's big baller branch shoes
and that's what caused that initial knee injury. It also
derailed his career from a standpoint of those first two
off seasons could work on his game because he was
healing up his knee.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
M it's been a rough couple of years.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It has. I hope he's back on the floor. I
really do. He's hard to kind of figure it out
as a player. We'll see if his body holds up.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Did you see that controversial call between the Orioles and
the White Sox yesterday?
Speaker 6 (35:24):
The interference call?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Awful? Awful.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Here is the.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
White Sox NBC play by play guys for John Striffan,
Yes and Steve Stone In case you missed it. This
will give you an idea of how they felt in
the moment. They called interference and it was not really
well Andrew.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Andrew did not do anything intentionally to deal it all
with Henderson because he never saw him. Look, he doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Where Henderson is.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
Henderson's in back of him and he's just going back
to the bat and he chooses to go around him.
You got to know they can't end the game like this. Well,
it's an infield fly rule and.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
No way.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
This would be an unbelievable and Adrian.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Johnson as the crew chief, you got to take over here.
That cannot be how this game ends.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
And it was how the game ended, two to one,
one out in the bottom of the ninth and at
ninth Andrew Benintendee pops up shortstop Gunner Henderson catches the ball.
But they say that in second base Andrew Vaughn was
the one who interfered.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
But as you heard, he was like behind him. He
couldn't see Gunnar Henderson.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Gunnar Henderson makes the cash, so there was really no interference.
Yespiano is reporting that MLB reached out to the White
Sox after the game and said that the umpires do
have discretion on that play and it didn't have to
be called.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, that was a weird one.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Awful, It is a bad one.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
The crazy thing is that don't we have replay, right,
and don't they have a replay in New York?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And if it didn't have to be called, that's a
way of saying it wasn't. I don't get it, And
that's what.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
The fellas say.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's like the crew chief has to, you know, take
over because it was the third base umpire, Junior Valentine
who ruled that Andrew Vaughan interfered with Henderson.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I've never in my life of baseball, decades of playing
and watching baseball, seen a game and on an interference
call in an infield fly like right, it's a true
one off. I don't think it's ever happened in the
history of the game.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
That was despicable, terrible.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And that's the press they get out there in press.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That was the press. All right, stuck Gollip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Have a great weekend, whether you
do lake or beach, oh you do shower beer or
pool beer or golf beer. I do think that Minnesota
ties up the series had won. I also think that
that Celtics Baser series. Although the Pacers haven't lost at
(37:54):
home in the playoffs, that thing only goes five games.
Five games, Yeah, that'd be my guess. Five games all right.
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what happened last night with the Celtics and whether or
not the Pacers have any chance now down two games
to none. And then of course we got to get
ready for Game three, Wolves taken on the Wolves take
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usum me. Game two Wolves taking on the Dallas Mavericks.
See if the Wolves can steal a steal a win,
as the Mavericks looked really impressive behind Kyrie and Luca
combining for sixty three points in Game one. But there
is a there's a big kind of change or feels
like or we're in the process of change with the
NCAA as these schools I believe, or the NCAA is in.
(01:28):
The NCAA is just member institutions, right, it's basically the
House of Representative. No, it's not the House, it's the
Senate because everybody has sort of the same vote and
that doesn't sit well with a lot of the big boys.
But the big boys are going to pay forty percent
of the freight with these three different class action lawsuits
over name, image, and likeness, even though most of the
(01:53):
actions were incurred by ninety nine percentile by the power five.
Everyone else is going to pay the sixty percent and
it's caused many people to believe amateurism is dead. Damageurroo
is over. Here's Paul Feinbaum on his show talk about
the NCAA. A lot of schools to directly pay players.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
This is the most significant day in the history of
the NCAA because the sham that the NCAA has always
been is over. They've always fought on every mountain to
defend the right that this is really amateur athletics, when
we've all known that has not been the case for
a long time. And finally they had to agree to
(02:31):
it in court to avoid what to avoid literally going
out of business because had this case gone to trial,
they would have been wiped out. I mean, if you
agree to settle something for two point eight billion dollars,
can you imagine how much exposure you had. So the NCAA,
plus the conferences that were dragged into it alongside, simply
(02:52):
wave the white flag.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They have the money.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
This isn't really to further student athletes quote unquote so
to speak. This is to prevail and preserve their own
ability to continue to be in existence.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, there's a bunch of lies that were told in there.
A lot of these schools do not have the money.
They just don't. And the utter lack of character that
Paul has is so obvious. Look, I understand he's in
the South, and in the South they've always had the
belief that's football above all else, that hey, you know,
(03:28):
grease and the palms, the one hundred dollars. Handshake is
no big deal. And the truth is that I've always
believed that what I've received in my career post career
is the true nil. It's really what it's about. You
build up a name brand for yourself and then you
use it post career. The rules have changed and it's
allowed for nil. The issue though, is, look, the only
(03:53):
sham is that the smaller schools have to pay for
something that really had nothing to do with them zero zero.
But the reason they're doing it is so the NCAA
tournament continues pumping out money, keeping all these athletic departments alive,
keeping Division one athletics united, because the second it breaks up,
(04:16):
that's the second that many of these athletic programs go away.
The sports program goes away. So too does all the scholarships,
not just for basketball, but for all the other sports
that it supports. There isn't this whole They have the money, Yes,
there are schools that have the money. There are lots
of schools that do not. And it's you know, I mean, honestly,
(04:37):
we talk about journalism and the honesty or like there
of honesty and journalism, nothing is worse than this because
there's utter and complete dishonesty by so many who can
cover it are? You know, and they don't know what
they don't know? It's like, well, why don't you just
make them employees? Do you have any idea what an
abject disaster that would be? You know, most of the
(05:02):
benefits that student athletes get, now many of them would
go away. Would we still have power five athletics, Absolutely,
but the rest would very much be up in the air.
And the idea of an athletic scholarship is to provide
a scholarship for somebody who because of their work, Because
(05:23):
of their work, they have earned the right to go
to school for free. And remember, like you get cost
of attendance, players have already gotten at most schools what's
called the CoA cost of attendants and it basically is
a leveling up of the playing field of what you know,
you could make if you work locally in order to
you know, be around the school. So there's just a
(05:46):
lot of things that people don't know. All I can
tell you is I believe that this keeps the NCAA intact.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
There's been a lot of talk of the two major
conferences at least, if not more breaking apart. I think
it keeps it intact. That's the only reason the smaller
schools would pay sixty percent of the freight when they
did zero percent of the damages or one percent of
the damages. But the issue continues to be that, for
whatever reason, there's many members of the media that it's
(06:14):
like they like the downfall of anything seen as in power.
That's what you're seeing across these college campuses. There's a
direct parallel there. It's this idea of protesting and uprooting
and changing and fighting whatever power is seen as being
in charge. Like, yeah, that sounds that's fine, okay, but
(06:35):
you see what happens with college campuses when you just
want to be a disruptor, you actually celebrate a side
that doesn't want anything to do with you. And in
college athletics, you disrupt, you disrupt a system which most
have benefited from at an incredible level. Incredible level. All right,
(06:58):
we got to get you to Game two of the
Western Conference Finals as the Wolves take on the Nuggets.
We'll hear from Chris Finch upcoming. Then Antonio Daniels is
going to join us. Of course, Tone played for the
NBA Championship. We were talking about best best times to
have a beer like more of the day, weekend is
good like in parts of Warren's Warm last last hour
(07:19):
we talked about you know, shower beer, post post, uh,
mowing the grass beer, beach beer, golf beer, softball beer,
bowling beer also underrated as well. But I have another
question for you guys. This is a big one. Uh
beach or lake beach er lake? And this is a
(07:41):
hard one, right and and I'm and I'm also I
have to make sure we're talking May Lake. So May
Lake is not super warm like August Lake is, but
still should be in most places decently warm, also cleaner
in May than it will be in August. But it
doesn't have the sh sh sh of of of a
(08:07):
of an ocean front beach. Jay stu beach your lake?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Oh no, I'm I'm obviously biased with beach my entire wife.
I don't even know if I've been to a lake
to have beers. To be honest, it's all about the beach.
It's all about the ocean. You can body surf, and
it's better.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Can a lake. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
You cannot body surf in a lake, but you can
you can actually swim and you can actually swim in
a lake. You can float in a lake. You ever
seen those big foam like pads you can put out
there next to a boat and you can like float,
kids can like run around the foam foam pad. Uh.
It's easier to wakeboard and wake surf on a lake
than it is in the ocean Monsey Lake or ocean Ocean.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, I I don't I've ever been to a lake
and like hung out.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I don't know if I've ever done that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That's great because we have two people, Doug and Sam,
that have lived in the middle of the country and
they've been to lots of lakes. And to think that
two people on your show, Doug have never been to
a lake. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I just think that that's part of that's got to
be part of the Gottlieb road trip. Yeah, I mean,
I'm I'm literally I don't. I think it would take
a couple of different clubs, but I would it would
definitely be a driver or two from the from a
lake and it woulds you know, Lake Michigan, which is
in Green Bay. Can't believe they've been.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What do you like, Sam?
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I you know lake Lake front property is beautiful, lakes
are beautiful. I'm gonna go with the ocean, though, I'm
gonna go with the ocean. Uh well, you know, I
grew up in a state with a lot of dirty lakes,
you know, and if you ingest the water by accident,
maybe dive in off the pontoon u you could get
giardia or you could not. It's a gamble. A lot
(10:03):
of dirty lakes in Iowa. They're muddy, they're not clear.
I like a lake if it's nice, it's like you know,
ice or or I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You live in California. There are beaches that are closed
because they have Yes, they have sewer run up.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
That is true. That is true. But you just you don't.
You don't want to accidentally swallow a little bit of
lake water in Iowa. You could end up, you know,
getting something real nasty, some kind of gut eating amieba
or something. I'm gonna go ahead and go with the
beach the ocean. But you know, I did have a
lot of great memories growing up where I was, you know,
(10:36):
in a lake, fishing, swimming.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
What have you stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports radio.
I would say, Uh, I'm actually more of a lake guy,
but I like them both. I'm gonna kind of hedge
on this one. You know. I like walking along a beach.
I like, you know, hopping into the water because it's
especially California beach, because it's refreshing. But I don't think
(10:59):
anything with hopping into a fairly warmed lake as opposed
to as opposed the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
And on Lake Michigan, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, Now that's the spells of an ocean. You can't
beat the sound of an ocean. You can't beat. But
you know, anything you have that you have issues with
with lakes, you have issues with with oceans. You can
have rip currents, you can have you know, uh, contagions
or whatever. You can have lots of you have waves
that are too big. The fact is Pacific Ocean is
(11:29):
pretty cold. So yeah, there there can be issues with lakes.
We can have just as many issues with just as
many issues with the ocean.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
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Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So tonight's Game two, Dallas
taking on the Timberwolves, and like the kind of part
for the course, right, Dallas goes on the road, gets
a win. We saw Indiana probably should have gotten a
win in game one. Game two kind of tells the story,
kind of tells the tale of a series gigantic amount
of pressure on Minnesota. But I would expect them and
(12:16):
Anthony Edwards to play play far better like I just do.
And you know, it's interesting we continue to say this,
but I mean, you can watch two NBA games in
the exact same series with one day in between the
two games and have a completely different opinion of it.
So as much as you may be convinced by game
(12:37):
by you know game one, Hey, you know Luca Diven
play well the first three course and they still won,
the fact is that it's a game to game deal.
And I think the Wolves have a ton of weaponry
to adjust to. And the question becomes do they move
up the drop defense? Right? Playing in the drop is
(12:58):
and they play a very deep where they're protecting in
the middle lane and trying to have you take and
make those mid range pull ups. And Kyrie erving either
didn't take the bait or when he did, he made him.
He was he was remarkable, really remarkable. But I do
think that, I mean, I would guess this game will
look far different. Wolves will look different in game two,
(13:20):
just like Boston who survived Game one, looked different in
game two. You know, you adjust the rotations a little bit,
you adjust the actions a little bit. The other part
to it, though, which is interesting, is you know Kyri
Anthony Edwards as good as he was defensively in the
last series, I mean they took down Denver, and how
(13:41):
he played against Jamal Murray. He couldn't guard. He absolutely
could not guard Kyrie. And for people like, well, you know,
is aren't they the same if you can guard one
guy and guard the next, Like now that the truth
is that Jamal Murray is he had he had help,
he had McDaniels, and he also a He's not nearly
(14:06):
the true kind of point guard like Kyrie canby and
carries on a true point guard, but the moves are
more point guard type guard type of moves as opposed
to he's more of a shooter and plays for his
jump shot. Kyrie can shoot and shot it pretty well
the other night. But the best thing he does is
I mean he just gets buy and gets the rim
and finishes. You know, well, ask Antonio Daniels. He knows
(14:27):
better because he played thirteen years in the NBA. He'll
join us up coming next. Doug Alan Cholier Lava at
the Fox at the Tirek dot Com.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Studiosscus versus meniscus.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, right, a lot of illiteration there, Jay stew I
knew you'd like that.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Novak Djokovic, he is going to try to defend his
French Open title, but he actually has lost to the
Geneva Open to Thomas Mahatch. He lost in three sets.
This is the semi finals of the Geneva Open. So
he this was the last you know, court clay court
tuneup he could have had before his French Open. Djokovic loses.
He has not one on a tournament in twenty twenty four.
(15:02):
In baseball, Rob Manfred said the league deferred to federal
investigators regarding the theft of money from Shoheo Tani by
his interpreter Ipamisujara, just because the Feds have a lot
more tools than Major League Baseball does. And on the ice,
it's game two of the East Final. The puck drops
from New York at eight pm Eastern time as the
Panthers take on the Rangers. Florida leads that series one zero.
(15:22):
Back to you, Doug, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Much, Monsie. Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
rules on Let's welcome in. He's an outstanding analyst. He
covers the Norans Pelicans. Of course, he won NBA Championship.
Is a part of the NBA Spurs dynasty going back
twenty five years ago. He's Antonio Daniels. He joins in
the Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
(15:47):
ton Let's start with tonight's game. Work our way kind
of backwards. Game one Kyrie early was awesome and then
the fourth quarter Luca closed up shop. I thought some
of it was matchups, some of it was Anthony struggled.
What do you think we see tonight in comparison?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
You know what do I think?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
For me?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Uh, this is why I enjoy the postseason so much
because of the adjustments. You want to see if the
team has the ability to make in between games, like
in the Minnesota Dember series, to see if Denver could
match the physicality of Minnesota. Right in Games three and
(16:28):
four and five, and they did and they didn't win
that series. I'll tell you the big thing I'm watching
tonight because you know Doug more than anybody. This league
is all about match ups. It is all about match ups,
and the Minnesota Timberwolf has They have excellent point of
attack defenders. I know Rudy Gobert is the defensive player
(16:48):
of the Year. I can get on my soapbox about
that at another point, but they have excellent point of attack.
The defenders. Jana McDaniels, Nikillelea Walker, Ethney Edwards are all
really good defenders. Kyrie Irvin and Luca are completely different
animal though completely They're completely different than Jamal Murray right
(17:09):
and their shot making ability, what they're capable of. I
am so interested to see if Chris Fitz can change
his pick and roll covers tonight to make life a
little more difficult on Kyrie Irving and Luca, and in
particular Rudy Gobert, because this is one thing you knew
come in into this series that Kyrie Irving, Luca and
(17:29):
Jason Kidd are going to target that matchup. They're going
to put Rudy in every possible defensive screening situation to
force him the movie set. So can Chris match counter
that by maybe trapping the pick and roll Hart heading
the pick and roll, bringing Rudy Gobert up? Does he
have the foot speed as a defensive player of the
year to now match up with Kyrie Irving and Luca
(17:52):
on the perimeter.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, let me ask you. You've seen these teams in person,
who called all these teams? Does he have the foot speed?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
I don't think so. And that's the thing is, now
you have to possibly play in a way you haven't
played all year. Maybe now you go smaller, Maybe you
play Niles Reed at the five. You know, but I
don't feel like there should be any scenario where the
quote unquote defensive player of the Year gets played off
the floor.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
What do you do with Derek Lively in the lane?
How do you move them out of the way.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Well, for me, it's not just Derek Livey or Daniel Gaffert,
it's being able to contain the gerble penetration of Luca
and Kyrie because that compromises everything behind you. So if
if you're in drop coverage, now Kyrie is so good
at turning the corner and finishing with either hands. Luca
does a great job of using pick and roll scenarios
(18:46):
and putting that defender in his back pocket right so
now when I'm not going to allow you back in front.
So now, if I'm Rudy Gobert, I'm in no mental land.
If I go to Dereck Grively, Luca has a pop
shot at five feet. Now if I over commit myself Luca,
he's throwing alive to Darrick Blidley. So a lot of
times when these guys are dominating the paint, whether it's
(19:06):
Jones Junior catching the lob or Lively catching the lob,
or Gafford's catching lobber PJ Washington catching the lob, is
all at the point of attack. And the fact that
Luca and Kyrie are breaking down the Minnesota Timberwolves perimeter defense.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, let's get to last night. Jalen Brown has been
just outstanding. Jason Tatum not as much. So what do
you think is behind Brown outshining Jason Tatum so far
in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I'll be honest with you, Doug, I don't care until
they start losing. This won't become it. This won't become
a story until Boston loses. And right now, Boston Ramborough, Miami,
Boston ram through Cleveland, and I think they're going to
run through the Indiana Pacers, especially if Terse Halliburton isn't
able to go because of.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The ham string.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
And we've seen that take some players out this postseason.
We see Zion not play this postseason. We saw what
they did to o Gana Noby and the New York
of Nick, so it would be interested to see how
healthy he is to go. But if they run through
the Indiana Pacers, if I'm a Boston Celtics fan, I
don't care who the hero is as long as we
win the championship. Now, if this whole thing happens and
(20:14):
now you move on to play the Minnesota tim Wolves
or Dallas Mavericks and this happened and you don't win
the championship, now you've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
On your hands.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
But as long as they continue to win, I don't care.
And that's it for me. That's the championship thought process.
I don't care who gets the credit as long as
we win.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
If you're the Lakers, who would you hire?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Oh man, Honestly, give me, give me some choices. Give
me my choices, give me my options.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
James Barrego. I mean, everybody want to talk about JJ
JJ Barrego, I don't know, you know, lots of uh
what was my man? Why am I forgetting that was
the nets head coach. He's been assist with the Warriors.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Jenny Akison, Jenny Atkinson, Yeah, Yeah, for me, I would
go with James Barrego. One. I know James JB has
a hecker. He's in heck of an offensive mine. He
is a great offensive mind. We had him in New
Orleans this entire year as the Choca head coach. And
(21:22):
I've also known JB from way Bank when he was
in San Antonio. But here's the reason why, Because when
you're talking about Sam Casale, when you're talking about JJ Reddick,
is nothing against those guys. I just don't understand the
purpose of hiring a rookie head coach into a championship
or bus situation. I don't understand why the men, why
(21:42):
the Milwaukee Bucks hired Asrin Griffiths and to a championship
of bus situation, Why the Los Angeles Lakers hired darvinham
and to a championship er bus situation. Because there's an
expectation there that they can't they can't exceed, they can't
not as a rookie head coach. Think darvinham was hired
as a rookie head coach.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, hold On Tyler was a rookie head coach. He
won a title. He the our as a rookie head coach.
He won a title.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
The thing is they're winning the title. That's the thing
about the Lakers. If you don't win the title, it's
deemed as being unsuccessful.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
No, no, I got it, ton I got it. I
understand that some would even I don't think the Lakers
are a championship caliber team. I don't even think they
think they don't neither, But not.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
What you and I think. It's what they think about themselves.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I granted. But but in terms of hiring a rookie coach,
like I just gave you too, there's plenty more examples
of guys that have been plenty successful. It's it's which guy.
And as much as Barrego's coach before and if you
say he's the offensive mastermind, I believe it because you
know it, you've lived it. But the point is that
what's the difference between Barrego, who has been a head coach,
(22:56):
but not a good one, you know, by by the
same same metrics, or a jaj Ridick who hasn't been
a head coach.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
The thing about a guy who hasn't been is like
all the guys that you talk about that are rookie
head coaches that you say are successful. Now, again, success
isn't the same for all teams, you know, the goal
isn't the same for all teams. So like, for example,
the Orlando Magic made it to the first round of
(23:25):
the playoffs and they were eliminated, but they had a
great season. They had a successful season. Right. The Oklahoma
City Thunder made it to the second round of the
playoffs and got ousted by the Dallas Mavericks, but they
had a great season. The Los Angeles Lakers, their thought
process about the Los Angeles Lakers, to me is what's different.
That's what's different. Because they feel like as long as
(23:46):
they have Lebron, anything less than a championship, anything less
than a championship, is deemed unsuccessful. And if that's the case, why, Like,
for example, Adrian Griffin wants seventy percent of his games.
He wants seventy percent of his game and he got
fired anyway as a rookie head coach. Now you bring
in Doc Rivers, who has won a championship with the
(24:07):
Boston Celtics. But when you have a head coach in place,
a lot of times they're given a sense of grace.
Frank Vogo obviously wasn't. He wasn't given that Similus of grades.
Doc Rivers was under five hundred in Milwaukee, and no
one's talking about it, no one's discussing it. But yet
Adrian Griffin was fired after winning seventy percent of his games,
(24:29):
and he got fired for what rookie head coaches to me, now,
like Charles Lee and Charlotte, that's a great fit. That's
a great fit head coaches. We're in a situation where
they get an opportunity to grow and learn. I am
all on board with that, But when you're bringing him
into a situation that is that pressurized where if they
(24:51):
don't win a championship, now they're on the hot seat.
I struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What do you think happens in Cleveland? You know I
was told that, you know, Donovan Mitchell was behind all
of that. Of course, behind all of that. I mean,
you got they didn't acquiesce to Lebron as much as
they're acquiescing to Donod Mitchell.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Well, the thing is, like you, I don't think anything
happens with coaches nowadays without the star player being behind it.
This is the player empowerment era at his finans, Like,
do you really think that kd and booked and Beale
if they wanted Frank Vogler to be their head coach,
he would be their head coach.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
If Jannis and Dame Lillard wanted Edrian Griffin to be
the head coach, you would be their head coach. If
Lebron and Anthony Davis wanted darbnhim to be their head coach,
you would be their head coach. The same goals with
Donovan Mitchell in in Cleveland forgiven. Now, I'll tell you
what would surprise me, Doug. What would surprise me now
is that Donovan Mitchell doesn't sign the extension. That would
(25:54):
surprise me if he doesn't, because it was almost like
this was a this was something that was just us.
You know what, I'll stay here in Cleveland and I'll
sign the extension, but I want some say on who
the next head coach is because me and j B
Bickerstaff fill in the blank.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Again.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
I don't know how this works. I don't know how
this works.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You know you nailed it, you nailed what you know
what like Lebron does, he kind of stays away, but
he lets it be known. Everybody's trying to figure out
what he wants. But your point is accurate, Like who
he wants to be the head coach or he doesn't
want to be the head coach. If he wants it done,
it'll be done. That's that's the that's the that's the
power too.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
This is what I mean though, Doug, like, as a coach,
what are my options? Because like what you heard about
Adrian Griffin is he made them uncomfortable, right. He told
Brook Lopez, I want you to show on the screen,
you know, different defensive adjustmentes. They didn't like it. Okay,
so he's gone right. We saw Anthony Davis and the
(26:54):
playoffs say we didn't know what we were doing. Next thing,
you know, Darmenham's gone right. We saw Frank both please
all year for a point guard, but they towed him
in the top. You know what, you don't need any
point guard, so they failed. He's gone. Now you hear JB.
Bickerstaff was too involved and two hands on and shoot
around and practice. What is the coach supposed to do?
(27:15):
Where is the balance? That's my question.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I don't know. I wish I could tell you I knew.
I don't know. I do know that you know a
little bit more about some of some of those the
last two. But but your point is accurate, you know,
and that some of these guys you have to want
a championship to have credibility, but nor to credibility, you
have to win a championship too. That that pretty sure,
that that part is really championship.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
And then and then to win a championship you need
time and the backing of the front office.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
If in hand together, who's the actual best player in
the league?
Speaker 9 (27:50):
The best for the league? To me is Nicola Jokisch.
I don't think that's debatable. I don't think that just
because he got beaten seven games by the Minnesota Timberwolves
for Nuggets won't repeat. I don't think that's debatable.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I agree I the first the second part, I agree
with the first part. You know, where is Luca in comparison.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
To to Nikola Jokic, Yeah, I don't know. I think
there's Nikola Jokics and everybody else. You can put Luca
where you want to. You know, you think you want
that next year down. N I think lucas they want
that next year down.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Why would you have why would you have the same tier?
Speaker 9 (28:25):
None? Because Nikola Yokis, to me as is in a
position that he's earned where he's by himself right now.
Like the thing is, it's tough to say Luca is
on the same tier as Nikola Yogis when Nikola Jokis
has won a championship, he's won the finals, MVP and
he's a three time MVP. If I'm starting a team,
(28:45):
if I'm starting a team, I don't know anything else.
I don't know anything else as far as roster construction
is concerned. I am starting one hundred percent of the
time with Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Ooh, I would say to me, it's sixty four pre Jokic.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But Luca would be the other one, you know. Just again,
both of them are incredible passers, both of them have
a flair for the dramatic. Both of them have some
limitations defensively, but seem to know how to cover it. Yeah,
that's that's that's one of.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Them, one of them knows how to play without the
ball in his hands.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Though.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
That's my that's my only thing with Lucas. That's fair,
that's my that's my soul. That's my sole issue that
I'm outside of the complaining to the officials. That's my
sole issue with Lucas. You know, it's like for me
to a certain sense, it's like Dames Harden with the
Houston Rockets, where everything has to go through him. He handles,
he handles, pick and roll, pick and roll, pick and roll.
He gets to shoot or he gets to throw to
(29:42):
someone else. You know, it's I don't know how he
operates with someone else for a consistent amount of time. Now,
him and Kyrie Irving, they figure some things out. They
have figured some things out. But there was a reason
that the Houston Rockets went out and got Chris Paul.
There's a reason the Houston Rockets went out and got
Russell way Rook and try to put someone alongside James Harden,
(30:03):
even though his stats were ghani and great, that style
of play, to me, isn't really conducive to winning without
another guy to offset what that guy does.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, you're the best telling I really appreciate joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Man for sure. Always I always love this man. Thanks
for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's my guy. Antonio Daniels play thirteen years in the NBA,
remember the Spurs championship team. Of course he's color analyst
for the Orlans Pelicans. But obviously in terms of the
league and how it really is and really should be
talked about it, I respect a lot of people. He
is at the top of any of those lists.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
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(31:12):
the air. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Angel
Reese deleted tweet not her best work right there, Monsie,
not her best work.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, I don't know why she deleted it.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I mean I guess she was getting a lot of heat,
because that's the only reason it didn't even make twenty
four hours. She tweeted this on Thursday seven forty two pm.
It says, I mean she's in Chicago, but this was Thursday,
and this comes on the heels of Lebron James Charles
Barkley giving Caitlin Clark her flowers basically for what she
(31:45):
is doing to the WNBA. So Angel Reese, her tweet
that is now deleted, said this quote and that's getting
on and that's sorry, and that's on getting a w
in a packed area, not just because of one player
on our charter flight Kissinamoji hashtag skytown. So she meant
(32:12):
arena probably, but she's put area in a packed area.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
So obviously that was a dis right at Caitlyn Clark. Yes, yeah,
like there's no way to say it wasn't correct.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Yeah, Well, the.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Word win is capitalized. It is capitalized in your face.
This team wins, it's a packed arena. And then she
brings up charter flights, right.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Which is because of Katelyn Clark, but also like, Caitlyn's
not on the same flight as Angel, So, like, what
that doesn't even make sense at all at all. She's
talking about herself basically, but she's not. She's talking about Caitlyn.
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
And did they play like in a big arena or
was it like a twelve thousand arena?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Was it like an eighteen thousand arena?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Because when they play in winterest it's decent size. I
don't know, it's I mean, I mean, I don't understand that.
I actually do understand this is to be honest, manci
women are the most petty, jealous creatures the Lord has
ever created, right.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
No, cap, I mean it's just what is women empowerment?
Because that's not that's not a thing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, the problem is not women empowerments. The problem is that,
like when guys empower them, women just take shots to
each other.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Right, But I'm saying, like women empowerment within women, like
that's not a real thing, And yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's a very weird part of the battle of the
sexes that us guys don't know anything about. I don't
get it. I agree, Like, all right, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
I one thousand percent agree with you. We are petty
and we don't support each other. And this is just
one example of many.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
But she's always press.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Well, let's actually talk a little bit about Lonzo ball.
Lonzo Baal has not played in over two years. January fourteen,
twenty twenty two, was the last time we saw him
because of.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
All of his knee injuries. On his what an experienced pod.
This is what he said. He hasn't really said much
about his knee. Hear what he said.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
To make a long story shore, Ultimately, it started with
a miniscus tear basically started on the Lakers on tour.
It the first time. I tore a couple more times
to a point to where there was no more miniscus
left and bone on bone was rubbing. So the carlage
was gone and the bone was messed up. So I
had to get new miniscus from a donor. I had
to get a bone outograph, and I had to get
some new carllage put in as well. All that, you know,
(34:25):
held up, and now I'm back on the court.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
Okay, what a blessing really.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was about fourteen fifteen months in now. So the stuff
before that, we were trying to figure out what the
problem was. So that was a wasted year.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
But now we're here, so wasted here, But seems like
now he's on the truck to come back and play.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah. I mean, but the party didn't say. Is the
Lakers believe right? The Lakers believe that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
The shoes he was wearing, right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, that it was it was the big baller brench
you know, that's their belief. There's big baller branch shoes
and that's what caused that initial knee injury. It also
derailed his career from a standpoint of those first two
off seasons could work on his game because he was
healing up his knee.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
M it's been a rough couple of years.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It has. I hope he's back on the floor. I
really do. He's hard to kind of figure it out
as a player. We'll see if his body holds up.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Did you see that controversial call between the Orioles and
the White Sox yesterday?
Speaker 6 (35:24):
The interference call?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Awful? Awful.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Here is the.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
White Sox NBC play by play guys for John Striffan,
Yes and Steve Stone In case you missed it. This
will give you an idea of how they felt in
the moment. They called interference and it was not really
well Andrew.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Andrew did not do anything intentionally to deal it all
with Henderson because he never saw him. Look, he doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Where Henderson is.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
Henderson's in back of him and he's just going back
to the bat and he chooses to go around him.
You got to know they can't end the game like this. Well,
it's an infield fly rule and.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
No way.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
This would be an unbelievable and Adrian.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Johnson as the crew chief, you got to take over here.
That cannot be how this game ends.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
And it was how the game ended, two to one,
one out in the bottom of the ninth and at
ninth Andrew Benintendee pops up shortstop Gunner Henderson catches the ball.
But they say that in second base Andrew Vaughn was
the one who interfered.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
But as you heard, he was like behind him. He
couldn't see Gunnar Henderson.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Gunnar Henderson makes the cash, so there was really no interference.
Yespiano is reporting that MLB reached out to the White
Sox after the game and said that the umpires do
have discretion on that play and it didn't have to
be called.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, that was a weird one.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Awful, It is a bad one.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
The crazy thing is that don't we have replay, right,
and don't they have a replay in New York?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And if it didn't have to be called, that's a
way of saying it wasn't. I don't get it, And
that's what.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
The fellas say.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's like the crew chief has to, you know, take
over because it was the third base umpire, Junior Valentine
who ruled that Andrew Vaughan interfered with Henderson.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I've never in my life of baseball, decades of playing
and watching baseball, seen a game and on an interference
call in an infield fly like right, it's a true
one off. I don't think it's ever happened in the
history of the game.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
That was despicable, terrible.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And that's the press they get out there in press.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That was the press. All right, stuck Gollip show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Have a great weekend, whether you
do lake or beach, oh you do shower beer or
pool beer or golf beer. I do think that Minnesota
ties up the series had won. I also think that
that Celtics Baser series. Although the Pacers haven't lost at
(37:54):
home in the playoffs, that thing only goes five games.
Five games, Yeah, that'd be my guess. Five games all right.
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