December 5, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug and the crew discuss the George Pickens situation in Dallas as the receiver had a poor outing on Thursday night. Doug welcomes former Bucs' GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Cowboys, Shedeur Sanders and all of the headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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one of the newest packers, laying out what he doesn't
like about the Bears. Mark Dominic's gonna join us. He's
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the former gentlemenager of the Tampa Buccaneers. Get his thoughts
on last night's game. Speaking of last night's game instead
of worrying about me pushing a stool out of the
way on the way out of our arena. We could
have watched the highlights or low lights of George Pickens
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last night. Here's Richard Sherman, future Hall of Fame cornerback
on George Pickens after the game, the big story.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Here's George Pickens. George Pickens throughout the game, especially late
in the game, just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football,
you know. And that's what you can't have if you're
going to be a superstar, if you want to be
the best receiver in the National Football League, you can
ever be disengaged. It doesn't matter if the game's going
your way or not going your way. You can't just
disappear in these games or else you're not going to
have impact. And just right here, cruising, cruising routes, you're
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the guy, You're the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Ceedee Lamba's not in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He's out and you get intercepted on your slack routes
and you can't beat the guy in half ascid. I'm sorry,
that's just you can't. It's unacceptable. And if you're the
Dallas Cowboys and you're looking at him and you're looking
to pay him a big time receiver money forty million dollars.
You got to look at this statement and say, hey,
is this a guy we can trust paying forty million
dollars to show up regardless of circumstance. And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's it's really a great point. It's really really a
great point in that you know, if you're just honest
with yourself. We have this on my basketball team right
where it doesn't really matter how talented you are putting
the ball in the basket. If you're not willing to
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sacrifice the little things to be better as a part
of a team, then it doesn't You can't play a
guy like that. Engagement is everything. Anybody can go over
the middle can when the ball is thrown along to
you in a huge game, when he got a chance
to win it, anybody can run all out. It's when
you think you're going to lose, will you still play?
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That's what a professional does. Will you still play hard?
So yeah, I'll be completely honest with you. I did
not watch every snap because I was coaching a basketball game.
But upon review of the game and then watching the highlights,
you're like, holy cow. And the question I would have
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Dan byer Is. You know, if you really want to
make a point and you see the video, you got
to not play him the next game, don't you.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, I think that would be pretty extreme for what
did and didn't happen last night. But the highlights do
not do George Pickens any favors. And if you just
look at the three routes that stood out the most,
including the long shot that Dallas tried to take when
Ceedee Lamb was knocked out after Ceedee Lamb was knocked
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out of the game, and not even making an effort
does not look good on Pickens. Now, I don't think
that what his effort or like thereof is worthy of
a benching, but I do think you have to get
to the bottom of it. You have to find out
why does this happen? Short week is out of the
window because they played last Thursday. There was some reason
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why George Pickens just didn't make any effort on certain routes.
And just a couple of weeks ago, he had nine
catches on nine targets from Dak Prescott and that's heck,
that's tough to do. Seven of eight sure top connections,
eight of ten, nine of nine they connected every time
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he threw them, So there wasn't just one time where
George Pickens had to fight for something. Of course he did.
Why he didn't last night I don't know, but I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But why wouldn't you mention him?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Because I don't think that you could sit there and
say you didn't run hard on these three routes, you're
not going to play the next time. I think they
got to figure out a reason on why things happened
last night. And they don't like those answers, then you
don't commit the long term money to it. Cowboys also
have a slim chance of making the playoffs, but it's
still a chance. And now with Ceedee Lamp status in
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the air, you kind of need George Pickens. I don't
think that they need to make any grandiose statement by
benching him, but I would definitely have second thoughts. If
this is what you're trying to sort out and giving
him a long term deal.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Could I bring something? Could I bring something to the
table here? It's a cliche and it also has alliteration,
which I love. Past is prologue. Don't you have to
take what we've experienced from George Pickens in Pittsburgh into
account when you factor in your thought process on giving
him long term money. There was also a report that
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they are thinking about franchising him or they communicated to
the agent that they're going to franchise him, and that
has been consistent. That information has been consistent with his
lack of effort or what have you in the last
couple of weeks. But he's lost the benefit of the doubt.
Right If I was to say to you, hey, George
Pickens chose not to try hard because he was told
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that he wasn't gonna get going to get the contract,
would that surprise you.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No, I, And to the point Jason, I would not
be surprised at all if this was in response to
the franchise tag scuttle butt that has been going on,
saying like I don't want the franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, so you're not going to play hard.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, it's ridiculous exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But Dan, if you allow it, you're either coaching it
or allowing it. Right, the coaching and allowing it and
Brian schoinenheimers not going to get hired or fired based
upon this season. They've overachieved, based upon what everybody thought
is reasonable, Like dude, if he's not going to go
hard after a football in a game which is still,
at least on some level up in the air, like dude, goodbye,
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or it for a siper a week and see what
that does.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So on two of the plays he was double covered,
and then I'm not making excuses for him, but I'm
sure that's his reasoning and his rant that he made
to Richard Sherman online after those comments. He brought those
points up. Maybe he thinks it's it's pointless, that's that's
ridiculous to think that, But maybe that's what's going through
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his mind. I just also think that you try to
treat everybody fair, you can't treat everybody the same. And
the Cowboys actually need George Pickens. They needed him last night.
That would have helped. And if you don't have Ceedee Lamb,
it just is a lot more difficult for you to
get something done. And so that's why I don't think
that you would suspend him at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Listen, there's no question you are a more talented team
and you have a better shot on paper of making
the playoffs. And if you don't have cdee Lamb, boy,
you're not giving your team a great shot. But I
do think that for your team, you can sell it
to him as, hey, we're just not gonna take anybody. Now,
you know, the Cowboys never do it now, but that's
why the Cowboys are always under achievers. That's literally it
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again again, maybe I'm in fantasy land. I have an
I'm gonna there was one I should that too. I
probably should have played last night. We just we also
got really tired. But I have guys on my roster
that talent wise, should be playing, but they haven't been
fully engaged. They're not willing to do the little things,
and so I will sacrifice, you know, minutes to guys
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that are fully engaged, even they're not as talented. I
believe that's the only way in which you build it.
You make it so that everybody plays to the utmost,
no matter how much time, whatever the score is. That's
just a belief of mine. Granted, you do run the
risk of not having enough football talent and losing the
game because of it.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I also think if you suspend him that really or
don't play him, that really lessens the opportunity that he
may come back. And I know what you're gonna say,
Doug is fine, we don't want a guy like that, correct,
But I think that this is I mean, this is
dallas On. Do you franchise tag him or do you
give him the contract that he wants. What is the
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constant of that is that George Pickens is a Cowboy
in twenty twenty six. So now if you're benching him,
I'm not saying you have to coddle to everything that
he wants, but this I think would have the opposite effect.
And maybe you're getting the answer that you need to
know by saying this. But if you bench him, I
don't think that there's any chance at the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Doesn't mature, franchise tagment doesn't matter, no.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I would do you think George Pickens is going
to want to be there, which he's not happy on
a franchise tag. And now he's not happy because the
team ends up you know, throwing or you know, ends
up suspending him for one game for what they perceived
was a lack of effort.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, so what you're doing is you're coaching, like in
college coaching, you're coaching out of fear for next year.
If you're out of hey, he may be happy unhappy.
He may leave, he may not resign, and again that's
a this is the really hard part about it. Okay,
Like in college basketball, you bench guys. They can leave
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at the end of the year. Heck, they can leave
whenever they want, and nothing you can do about it. Whatever.
My point is, it doesn't matter what you pay him
or how much you do. If if you don't nip
this in the butt. Now, if you make that in
any way, okay acceptable, then even when you give him
the money, if you want him to stay, he's gonna
be a dog anyway. That doesn't change. Leopards don't just
change their spots over night, especially if this is in
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regards to a contract thing. You're talking in the regular season,
coming off the biggest win of the year, and that's
how you act. I don't want you. You're right, you're right, right.
Remember it's still George Pickens. It's still the guy that
Pittsburgh could not stand. They drafted him. He's super talented,
they couldn't stand. So I don't think he's gonna have
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Like do I think you have value elsewhere? Yeah, but
those guys are really hard to win. They are Pittsburgh
obviously not is talented without him, but they're going to
have the same records they had without him as that
with him, because those guys don't help you win. There's
sometimes guys.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
This to me in a Dallas uniform is and that's
what I think he can be judged on in the
immediacy is a first time offense. Whether you want to
take his history in Pittsburgh into giving him a long
term deal or using the franchise franchise tag, that is different.
But I think if this is just a one off
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of like, man, what went on last night, and if
there was a reason or it wasn't a reason, whatever
the case may be, that then deals with the immediate
immediacy of does he play the next game or not?
But then you take all of the information and try
to decide because he has been really good, like he's
been really really good.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, he's super talented.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So for one game to throw it out, you know,
just after one.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Game two and I don't know of that. But if
this is a reaction to the franchise tag, like hey,
you're not you want a big contract, this how you perform,
We're going to pay you top five average salaries. Here's
Jerry Jones the owner after the game.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
He didn't have the game that he's been happy. Uh,
but effort. I would be very careful with him going there.
This guy is a is a He's explosive with his temperament.
And I say that in a positive way. So I
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don't think so much it was an effort. But I
might not. But but I don't necessarily have a good
explanation as to why he didn't show up more. But no,
I'm not at all concerned going forward about pickings. I
would agree with you. I thought we would have more
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with him than we did.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would have thought I would have thought we'd had
more with him than we did without him. That's by
by and large, I've been thinking about it a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
In a shower, I will say that I think Jerry
Jones and I are on the same page.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think you are. I think you are, and I
think that's what's gonna happen.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Micah
Parsons is well, he's quickly becoming obviously a fan favorite.
Now I'm playing well for the Packers. But then you know,
now he hates the Bears. Rivalries, he says, are for
the people. It's for the fans. For me, it's just
going out there and dominating. I just don't like him
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because I just see like the disrespect. Here's Micah Parsons
on what he doesn't like about the Bears.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Respect is something that's earned. And these people want to
come here and they want to meet us in our house,
and you know, we got to eventually go to air.
That's you know, if someone comes from you law, what
would you say, So you know, it's that type of
it's about. It's a respect thing, like you know, especially
losing a couple of games at home in the way
we lost him in a fashion like you know, I
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think we have to come together as a defense to
get our respect back. And it starts this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It starts to Sunday to get your respect back. Sesame
Street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn
donate this holiday season at says to me dot org,
because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. I
don't know if the Bears are disrespectful. I mean, he
hasn't played against him, But I do agree with him
that rivalries generally, especially your new player, for fans. But yeah,
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the old talk of respect, I don't know, it seems
like a little bit a reach. Again, agree with the
premise that the rivalries are more for the fans, and
again mostly because he hadn't played against the Bears as
a member of the Packers. It'll be different once you
start playing against them. But then the other part to
it is, yeah, I mean I think that he's searching
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for disrespect, which I haven't seen. I haven't seen there
from the Bears. But the Bears are going to run
the football, and you know, if he sees that as disrespect, great,
I don't know. I haven't seen any of it. It
feels like Micah Parson's making a disrespect out of nothing,
which is what guys do to motivate themselves. But why
would you need motivation when it's the Bears and you're
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still playing to win the division? All Right, it's Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dan. We talked about sports
superstitions earlier this week, So in any way are you superstitious?
With yet or we talked about it Earli this week.
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You didn't, but we talked about it early this week.
Sports superstitions. Okay, Ohio State loses last year to Michigan,
they go on to win a national champion We've seen
this from Ohio State previously, not Big ten championship game,
but otherwise, is there a result that convinces you? It's like,
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is it better if Ohio State loses this game? I
guess is the question.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I thought you were going to go down superstition road.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, that's a whole other conversation, but I don't think
that this game matters. I think that it's Indiana's super Bowl.
To be honest with you, I think that I don't
think that Ohio State can gain a ton from this.
We don't even know how the other matchups are being
set up. So if there's a team that Ohio State
doesn't match up with necessarily, well, like you know, a
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Notre Dame team that can run the football better than most,
that would be an interesting matchup considering what happened last year.
We don't know where Notre Dame is going to be
in the bracket, so it may not be beneficial to
be number one as opposed to number four. So I
just I don't think there's a lot to play for.
But I think for Indiana to prove where they they are,
and it's something we talked about this week. I just
I think it's such a huge, huge game for them.
And that's not to give Ohio State any outs. I
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just don't think there's a lot to gain for Ohio
State in this game.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I would agree in being interest to see how
they compete, regardless of it. Mark Dominic Joints just spent
twenty years the NFL frontal offices and in scouting, former gentle
manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. If you're the GM and
the Cowboys, what do you do with George Pickens today?
Speaker 9 (17:24):
Well, you know this is the reason why I got
George Pickens in the first place. Let's go back to
the history of Mike Tommon and receivers at Pittsburgh that
don't fit the culture. He ships them out, whether it's
Chase Claypool and Tonio Brown. You can go down the
list and the guys just disappear off the map once
they leave Pittsburgh. So a little bit you could fault
the Steelers in terms of like, maybe they're missing the
character part. But when Mike Toman tried to trade you
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a wide receiver, or the Pittsburgh Steelers try to trade
you a wide receiver from the Steelers, buyer, beware because
right now they've never been wrong about it. Maybe they've
had a little bit of a glimpse of here or there.
And Pickens has been to Darling. I think this is
one of the ones whereas a GM, if I'm there,
I just come upstairs and ask him to watch the
tape with me.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
That's it.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
I just want him to see that I see what
he sees and know this affects his long term value,
and I would leave it there. I do not cut him,
I do not pull him off the team or anything
like that. I give him a chance to watch the
tape in front of me and see what he.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Does, okay, and what what is the worst possible reaction
and how would you react?
Speaker 9 (18:21):
The worst reaction would be is he gets he gets pissed,
he says something he regrets, where he says something he
shouldn't say, and that's okay if that I mean mean,
if that's how he responds to it. Not seeing it
as Hey, I'm trying to help you here because I
made the trade to get you, and I'm trying to
make sure that you know, you get the most out
of your career and we get the most of your
career as well. And if he can't handle that, well,
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then you know, then I've got to have to have
another discussion with Jerry Jones about my next step of
what I've got to do with him, because if he's
not going to tie the line and show that he
can learn from that. And we've seen this before other
players around the league. Sometimes I get bench for a quarter,
you know this situation. Maybe you say, hey, look, we
can't have that kind of attitude or that kind of effort.
You're not going to start the next game. That's just
the way it is. And then we're gonna see if
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you can, you know, take the next step and get
back on the line. So I think you have to
do that. If you decide he's just not buying it
and he doesn't want to be there, I'm just going
to remind him and McCall's agent, of course, and say,
you do realize your guy is going to be out
of league in one to two years.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm with you. I mean, I would not. You know,
there's some speculation it's because there's been franchise tag talk
like you know, I'm not doing I'm not giving him
some like wait, I'm supposed to give you some big
contract of the act like that in a nationally televised
haandalone game when we're in the playoff hunt. Come on, man,
we're doing here? What are we actually doing? It is
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, the Lions.
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What was better about their offense last night?
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Well, they ran. I mean, you know, obviously running the
ball was really fantastic, and just felt like they understood
the importance of the game. They knew the assignment, so
to speak, and they knew this is a game where
they if they're going to stand in the playoff hunt,
they had to get the victory. And I think the
real Lion showed up last night. Jared Goff made his throws,
but really running the ball, just tackling is better for
the most part. But I think the main part was
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just being able to be balanced. And I think you
saw that last night, and that's exactly what Dan Campbell
wants to be. And you know, I thought the running
game was the big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
All Right, we're getting ready for this weekend Bears Packers.
Packers have speed, Bears have power, and I mean, if
you go by last week an unbelievable running game, Packers
defense feels like it kind of feels like they'll Peyton
Manning Colts defenses and tell me if I'm wrong, But
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the Peyton Manning Colt defenses where we want. Peyton's going
to get the lead and then we're gonna pin my
years back and use our speed to get after the quarterback.
The only times that doesn't work is when somebody's super
conservative and runs the football. Am I accurate in any
way in the comparison?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Yeah, I think you are. And I think for the
Green Bay Packers, you know a guy by the name
of Carl Brooks. He's going to to really step up
on the inside. He's been playing well, I think all
season long with whyatt down and the defensive line. Carl
Brooks is gonna be a name as a Packer fan
that I'm going to be watching really hard to see
how the run game goes and what he can do,
because that's really where he excels at. And so I
just want to see him play in that venue, to
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see how he performs, because that's really the most important
thing for the Packers that now to be able to
shut down that run so they can be that type
of team to get to be, you know, not only
obviously you know pass rushers, but even to some of
the other guys that maybe people don't know as well,
the Edrin Cooper's or whomever that are really I think
speed guys as well off the edge. Let alone to
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
S Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
so let's pop around the league just a little bit
more as we get ready for this weekend. The Steelers
they're taking on the Ravens. I have questions about both teams.
Let's start with the Steelers. You started talking about Mike Tomlin.
Does feel like this is a year where they went
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all in. What's missing? Why are they not better?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Well?
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I think probably the main reason is Aarons I think
finally starting to look even though he's an older quarterback.
I think he's feeling like he's an older quarterback in
the game and the way he's just moving around the field.
And yes, Tom Brady was playing an older level, but
Tom's arm still and Aaron's got a good arm, but
Tom's head and arm and everything. We're really kind of
working together and the Steelers in terms of, you know,
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who's the number two receiver, who's going to be or
who's the number one, who's the number three? Which tight
end can show up and who's going to make the
plays for him?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I just I feel like the Steelers just don't have
the firepower that you want to have. Where we saw
Tom Brady do it, but it was Mike Evans, it
was Chris Godwin, it was a lot of good players
there that were making plays all of obviously Gronk was there,
and so I think that's the difference we see with
the Pittsburgh Steelers is the skill players on offense just
aren't dynamic. And it's been something I think that slowly
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has been pulled away from the Steelers over the last
couple of years. And I think that's why they've kind
of been this fringe team each year. Can they get
over five hundred? I think they'll be over five hundred
this year. But I feel like the Raiders are going
to win this game because, excuse me, the Ravens are
going to win this game because I think they're going
to get the ball into Derek Henry's hands and let
him carry them to a victory.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, let's get to the Chaudeur Sanders. Okay, we got
two games. Now, what's your u as a general manager?
What's your perception of shaudor Sanders?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Sill's kind of the same. You know, I still think
the game is going to happen fast for him. I
think he can draw up plays and make plays, and
he can you know, throw the ball and things like that.
But I still feel like the accuracy part is going
to be an issue for Shadur as he continues to go,
and especially in that mid tier range. Those throws from
like twelve to twenty, those are the ones I really
want to see him get a lot more consistent with
because those are the really the game changers. Those are
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ones you need when you're in third and eight, and
I just don't feel like Shador is hitting those with
a good accuracy right now the way he's throwing the
ball because he feel like he's rushed and I think
he knows where. I think he thinks he wants to
go with it, but I think he's rushing himself and
therefore he's thrown off balance or he's not you know,
really following through with his motion, and I think that's
causing him to be.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Off I would I would agree there. I just yeah,
I don't, I don't know, I don't. I feel like
he's a back peddler. That's who he's been, and they're
trying to protect him, but he's clearly not seeing things
and he doesn't know what he sees. He just dumps
it off like that's his that's kind of his m O. Right.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
He's a young quarterback that doesn't want to lose the
job now, and that's not the way to win the
quarterback job, and that's you know, he's wanting to prove
that he can have the job. But part of that
is being able to say, hey, look let's go rip
this ball down the field and trust my guy's going
to make the play at the fifteen fifteen yards down
the field. And I don't think. I don't think Saduer
looks like that guy that's going to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What is it that Daniel Jones is hurt? Is that
why he's not running as much? What's happened to the Colts?
They went from a dynamic team to one that's kind
of limping to the finish line.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit of that. I
think it's a Johnson Taylor's, you know, the heartbeat of
that team, kind of what we saw with Saquon Barclay
last year. Why the Eagles feel okay this year even
though they're having a very good season for NFL standards.
You know, people are like, that's wrong with the Eagles. Well,
Sekwon Barkley's not running as well. I'd say that Jonathan Taylor,
like as a dev at the coordinator, and if I play
the Colts and you're gonna beat me with Alex Pierce, fine,
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I'll lose, but I'm not gonna let you run Jonathan
Taylor down my throat twenty eight times for one hundred
and forty two yards. I'm just not going to do that.
And so I think that's what coordinators are doing. It's like, hey,
look he can beat us anywhere else, we're just going
to stop the run. And that means the quarterback as well.
And so I think it's a combination. I think they
can find their magic. Though I don't think the Colts
are done. I think that they're going to be a
dangerous out in the playoffs, you know, because I think
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that they can find that with johnthan Pale and have
those kind of games. But right now, I think that's
the whole focus of every DEFENSEI coordinators that slow down
that run game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I think you're I think you're right. This is
the Doug out Leaves Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
How good is Seattle?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Really?
Speaker 9 (25:41):
I like them a lot. I actually think they're really good.
I think that you know, they've got a better offensive
line now going, you know, I think that's a big
piece of it. I think they've got a combination running
game and they're just playing smart defensively, and that really
that's who he is. I mean, when you hired coach McDonald,
you were hiring a defensive genius from the Ravens and
everybody I knew he was a genius. Ever he wasn't
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sure what's he going to be like as head coach.
I had a chance to spend some time with him
at the owners meetings down in South Florida this last
offseason and really enjoyed my conversation with him and just
and I could see why John Schneider picked him to
be the head coach, and I think he does a
good job of educating guys, and players want nothing more
than Doug is. They want to feel like they're getting
(26:23):
better and smarter in the game, and they'll play better
because of it. When a player walks through a room
and they're looking at the coach and they're like, I
don't know if this guy knows more than I do,
that's a problem. I think in defense, you can't know
more than the coach. He's that smart and he's that good,
and I think that's really helping Seattle, let alone what
Sam Darnold's doing, what they're doing offensively. I think the
defensive part is the confidence is really good in this
football team.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, the
Kyler Murray's not going to play the remainder of the season.
What happens to Kyler Murray moving forward?
Speaker 9 (26:57):
I have a feeling, you know, many Austin Forth, the
general manager there, has made the decisions. This is not
their quarterback of the future. He didn't sign, he didn't
draft him, he didn't sign to the extension. But he's
given him an opportunity I think that they're going to
try to move on. If they can move him, great,
If they can't and they're just going to walk away,
they will. You know, the salary cap is going up
so traumatically over these last few years, and it should
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do it again that you can walk away from some
of these quarterback deals used to never be able to
walk away from. And so I think Arizona's in that
position where they can say, hey, look, we're going to
find the new person. The season has not gone the
way I thought of. Even go Fearerzon, I thought they'd
kind of be one of the sleeper a NC teams.
They're asleep, so they're not sleepers. But I think they're
going to be high enough in the draft to be
able to be a player in terms of getting a
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young quarterback for the future that fits what they want
to be in the mold that they're trying to create
there in Arizona. So I think Calamurray has played his
last game. I don't think he played his last game
in the NFL, but I think he's played his last
game in the Ears.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
On him, Yeah, Chiefs, what's wrong?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Well, the offensive line? You know, this goes back to
always what's wrong with the Chiefs is when the line
falls apart and then we see, you know, it looks
like Tracey Smith's probably isn't playing, Juwan Taylor's not playing,
and when the Chiefs don't have a very good offensive
line all the bucks in the Super Bowl. The Chiefs
just struggle as a football team. And that's why when
they went out and got Joe Thuney and they tried to,
you know, really fix the offensive line Orlando Brown for
a little bit. That's really what the hallmark is for
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them because then it allows Patrick Mahomes to do his magic.
Now Patrick Mahomes are rushing everything and trying to create
some magic, and I think the other thing on the
other side of the ball is just puer speed. They
just don't have it. I just don't feel like it's
a fast football team, especially in the front seven, and
they're missing that a lot. And they tried to fix
it a couple of years ago in the first round
pick with Felix out of Kansas State, but he's just
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not really kind of found a way to get a
role in the defense. They have to have somebody that
can throw a fastball on defense. They don't have that
that's really what's hurting on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Mark is the best man. I really appreciate you joining us.
We're coming to the end, but now you're starting to
see the separation that haves and have not still trying
to figure out who's who's who's any good? Hey, last
last one? R Actually, boy, I forget Monday Night Chargers.
Charge has been banged up forever, getting a little healthier.
But now no Carter for the Eagles, how much does
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that change them in their pass rush?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I think it changes a ton. I think they need
Carter desperately and to have you know, the soldiers or
the surgery work on Carter, hopefully that means that he'll
be back in time to the postseason. Because they need
Jalen Carter. I think he's a big part of what
they do and in certainly a beast on the inside
that he just can't handle from a physical standpoint and
you know, from a just a pure strength standpoint. And
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so I think it's a good matchup. I still think
the Eagles will be the better team. Chargers. With my
AFC team, I thought it was a sleeper. They've done
a really good job where I thought, yeah, I don't
know that was a big sleeper. Arizona's my NFC team.
Philly is the team I think we're gonna see a
lot more stake on Barkley. I think now it's time
to jump on the horse and ride it all the
way through December into the postseason. They've got him healthy,
Let's run him to make sure we try to find
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a way to make sure we get this number one
seed and be in position to re you know, run
back a super Bowl and you know, really be the
team that maybe talk more with the dynasty. I love
the Chargers. I just think the offensive line is going
to come back and haunt them. Losing your starting two
tackles is really tough to overcome. They've done a good
job with it, but I still think the Eagles are
a fundamentally overall better team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Great stuff. Mark Dominic spent over twenty years in the
NFL front offices and scouting. Former gentlemenager of the Tampay Buccaneers,
he joins us weekly year in the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Mark you the best man. Appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Thanks for having me on.
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Explore everywhere. Let's get to the press with Dan Byer.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
The Press Doug any chairs go flying in the wind?
Last night? Uh in the backyard in the what what
come on on?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No chairs were injured in the filming of this sere
radio show.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Anything for the back patio, any any other patio chairs?
Flying the wind wind took care.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's funny, Like I have these. I have like three
awesome managers, right yeh. And this is a note on chairs.
I was having a tough night with chairs anyway. So
you know last year I would just get on one
knee or whatever and draw to them and kill gans.
Is like, dude, just grab a chair. But we have
these stools. So every time at a time out, there's
supposed to be a stool and then my whiteboard and
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a pen. And I'm telling you, you know, you go back.
There was like eleven timeouts in that game, and at
eleven timeouts, none of them did I have all three
of those things. Just like dude, they're like, oh sorry, coach,
we forgot your pen, or they bring me the pen
and the no board. I'm like, I felt like the
(32:37):
end of coming to America, sir. Try the soup. Is
it too hot? Is it too cold? Where's this moon?
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Ugh? Ha?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Anyway, I was having I was having a tough night
with the chairs, the stools, and the whiteboard.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Well, Lebron James had a great night last night in Toronto.
Now I'm curious if the NBA is gonna have a
say because he is not gonna play tonight in Boston.
Lebron has been ruled out of their second half of
their back to back. It is a game that is
on Prime video. I also know Lebron is not retiring
because this could be his last game in Boston and
he would not miss that because he'd want to at
least have some sort of ovation. But Lebron James out
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tonight for the Lakers. Remember, the Calves were fined not
playing Darius Garland in a national TV game and having
him play in the non national televised game. They were
fired yesterday. It happened about a week or so ago.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Interest right, it's all about It's all about gambling. It's
all about the gamblers, and about National TV and all
the money that these networks are spending. The only thing
is every game is on some level in n Ashley televised.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So a while back, we had a debate here at
Fox Sports Radio and I lost overwhelmingly that Caitlin Clark
was more popular than Aaron Judge well, Caitlin Clark was
not on stage today for the final draw of the
twenty twenty six World Cup. Aaron Judge was. He was
one of four athletes to grace the stage vindicated. So
(34:03):
I'm telling you I was playing the long game, the
long game in all of this, not the long game,
the long game. But he was joined on stage by
such other dignitaries as Tom Brady, Shaquille O'Neill, and Wing Gretzky.
Let's take a listen on how are stars of the
sporting world fared in their duties in announcing the final draw?
(34:32):
But I see you Tom Brady with Brazil. What do
you guys think of that accent from Tom Brady?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
But I see you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That's how you actually do say it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But I see you, well he was married to.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes, that help, that was not lost. I thought he
spiced it up a little bit. All right, here's Shack's turn.
Career Republic, there's Korea? Had South Korea? Sounds like he
said career republic, did.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Career public? Public career Republic? Public career, republic, career?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Can you just say South Korea?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Career Republic?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It's not what it says on the gotta read what
the what the ballot says.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And then the one put the right and fastest, the
right sylbl He's he's.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
The great one. But it's the one that's been getting
a lot of hype on social media.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Karaco.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
That was Wayne Gretzky announce Curasaw today.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Kaka Karaco, Karaco, Kaco.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
It's like karrakas Venezuela. It's Kirasa, like you said, right, Karaco.
It's like when people say kai, but it's is an
as i Kaco saibo.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's like who says people in the Midwest say Oregon, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's true, Well there's an Oregon Wisconsin. So people will say,
I know people from Wisconsin will call Oregon.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Player from Oregon, Wisconsin, Indiana?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Who did who did it better? Was it Caraca or
did John Travolta do it better?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Uh? See?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
President Trump was also there and it was kind of
we knew what he was going to draw, So this
is what Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know what this is going to be now everything,
But let's are you sure? Are you sure this is
the greatest drug. Some people are saying that this is
the most incredible.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
United States of America excellent group one. All right, did
two A tag did they did you announce he was
going to do the greeting?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Should have had President George W. Bush up there. He
was always good for mispronunciation. Tag oh volley.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
My favorite part was I played four sound bites, and
in three of them, you guys just talked all over
the start. I just would not shut up until we
could finally hear and see I can't do it, can't
do it? All right, Penn State's on the verge of
hiring Matt Campbell to be their next head coach.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Help you out here, Penn State fans. Okay, it's not
just because I'm a coach. I'm just telling, like Matt
Campbell's good. Who cares how many guys said no, nobody cares.
Nobody ever looks back and goes like, hey, you know
it was a third choice, which, of course Matt Campbell
the classic media joke that's not funny that he will say, Jase,
do you know this is well, you know as my
wife's third choice, ha ha ha. No, really, it was
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my wife's third choice. Two other guys did the deal
didn't make And that is the press.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That is the press may get out there and pressed.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Mama Ohio State. That's what thinks wins this Doug Gotlieb Show,
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the former gentlemenager of the Tampa Buccaneers. Get his thoughts
on last night's game. Speaking of last night's game instead
of worrying about me pushing a stool out of the
way on the way out of our arena. We could
have watched the highlights or low lights of George Pickens
(01:22):
last night. Here's Richard Sherman, future Hall of Fame cornerback
on George Pickens after the game, the big story.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Here's George Pickens. George Pickens throughout the game, especially late
in the game, just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football,
you know. And that's what you can't have if you're
going to be a superstar, if you want to be
the best receiver in the National Football League, you can
ever be disengaged. It doesn't matter if the game's going
your way or not going your way. You can't just
disappear in these games or else you're not going to
have impact. And just right here, cruising, cruising routes, you're
(01:51):
the guy, You're the guy.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Ceedee Lamba's not in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He's out and you get intercepted on your slack routes
and you can't beat the guy in half ascid. I'm sorry,
that's just you can't. It's unacceptable. And if you're the
Dallas Cowboys and you're looking at him and you're looking
to pay him a big time receiver money forty million dollars.
You got to look at this statement and say, hey,
is this a guy we can trust paying forty million
dollars to show up regardless of circumstance. And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's it's really a great point. It's really really a
great point in that you know, if you're just honest
with yourself. We have this on my basketball team right
where it doesn't really matter how talented you are putting
the ball in the basket. If you're not willing to
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sacrifice the little things to be better as a part
of a team, then it doesn't You can't play a
guy like that. Engagement is everything. Anybody can go over
the middle can when the ball is thrown along to
you in a huge game, when he got a chance
to win it, anybody can run all out. It's when
you think you're going to lose, will you still play?
(02:58):
That's what a professional does. Will you still play hard?
So yeah, I'll be completely honest with you. I did
not watch every snap because I was coaching a basketball game.
But upon review of the game and then watching the highlights,
you're like, holy cow. And the question I would have
(03:18):
Dan byer Is. You know, if you really want to
make a point and you see the video, you got
to not play him the next game, don't you.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, I think that would be pretty extreme for what
did and didn't happen last night. But the highlights do
not do George Pickens any favors. And if you just
look at the three routes that stood out the most,
including the long shot that Dallas tried to take when
Ceedee Lamb was knocked out after Ceedee Lamb was knocked
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out of the game, and not even making an effort
does not look good on Pickens. Now, I don't think
that what his effort or like thereof is worthy of
a benching, but I do think you have to get
to the bottom of it. You have to find out
why does this happen? Short week is out of the
window because they played last Thursday. There was some reason
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why George Pickens just didn't make any effort on certain routes.
And just a couple of weeks ago, he had nine
catches on nine targets from Dak Prescott and that's heck,
that's tough to do. Seven of eight sure top connections,
eight of ten, nine of nine they connected every time
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he threw them, So there wasn't just one time where
George Pickens had to fight for something. Of course he did.
Why he didn't last night I don't know, but I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But why wouldn't you mention him?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Because I don't think that you could sit there and
say you didn't run hard on these three routes, you're
not going to play the next time. I think they
got to figure out a reason on why things happened
last night. And they don't like those answers, then you
don't commit the long term money to it. Cowboys also
have a slim chance of making the playoffs, but it's
still a chance. And now with Ceedee Lamp status in
(05:09):
the air, you kind of need George Pickens. I don't
think that they need to make any grandiose statement by
benching him, but I would definitely have second thoughts. If
this is what you're trying to sort out and giving
him a long term deal.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Could I bring something? Could I bring something to the
table here? It's a cliche and it also has alliteration,
which I love. Past is prologue. Don't you have to
take what we've experienced from George Pickens in Pittsburgh into
account when you factor in your thought process on giving
him long term money. There was also a report that
(05:48):
they are thinking about franchising him or they communicated to
the agent that they're going to franchise him, and that
has been consistent. That information has been consistent with his
lack of effort or what have you in the last
couple of weeks. But he's lost the benefit of the doubt.
Right If I was to say to you, hey, George
Pickens chose not to try hard because he was told
(06:09):
that he wasn't gonna get going to get the contract,
would that surprise you.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No, I, And to the point Jason, I would not
be surprised at all if this was in response to
the franchise tag scuttle butt that has been going on,
saying like I don't want the franchise tag.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, so you're not going to play hard.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, it's ridiculous exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But Dan, if you allow it, you're either coaching it
or allowing it. Right, the coaching and allowing it and
Brian schoinenheimers not going to get hired or fired based
upon this season. They've overachieved, based upon what everybody thought
is reasonable, Like dude, if he's not going to go
hard after a football in a game which is still,
at least on some level up in the air, like dude, goodbye,
(06:59):
or it for a siper a week and see what
that does.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So on two of the plays he was double covered,
and then I'm not making excuses for him, but I'm
sure that's his reasoning and his rant that he made
to Richard Sherman online after those comments. He brought those
points up. Maybe he thinks it's it's pointless, that's that's
ridiculous to think that, But maybe that's what's going through
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his mind. I just also think that you try to
treat everybody fair, you can't treat everybody the same. And
the Cowboys actually need George Pickens. They needed him last night.
That would have helped. And if you don't have Ceedee Lamb,
it just is a lot more difficult for you to
get something done. And so that's why I don't think
that you would suspend him at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Listen, there's no question you are a more talented team
and you have a better shot on paper of making
the playoffs. And if you don't have cdee Lamb, boy,
you're not giving your team a great shot. But I
do think that for your team, you can sell it
to him as, hey, we're just not gonna take anybody. Now,
you know, the Cowboys never do it now, but that's
why the Cowboys are always under achievers. That's literally it
(08:05):
again again, maybe I'm in fantasy land. I have an
I'm gonna there was one I should that too. I
probably should have played last night. We just we also
got really tired. But I have guys on my roster
that talent wise, should be playing, but they haven't been
fully engaged. They're not willing to do the little things,
and so I will sacrifice, you know, minutes to guys
(08:27):
that are fully engaged, even they're not as talented. I
believe that's the only way in which you build it.
You make it so that everybody plays to the utmost,
no matter how much time, whatever the score is. That's
just a belief of mine. Granted, you do run the
risk of not having enough football talent and losing the
game because of it.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I also think if you suspend him that really or
don't play him, that really lessens the opportunity that he
may come back. And I know what you're gonna say,
Doug is fine, we don't want a guy like that, correct,
But I think that this is I mean, this is
dallas On. Do you franchise tag him or do you
give him the contract that he wants. What is the
(09:07):
constant of that is that George Pickens is a Cowboy
in twenty twenty six. So now if you're benching him,
I'm not saying you have to coddle to everything that
he wants, but this I think would have the opposite effect.
And maybe you're getting the answer that you need to
know by saying this. But if you bench him, I
don't think that there's any chance at the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Doesn't mature, franchise tagment doesn't matter, no.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I would do you think George Pickens is going
to want to be there, which he's not happy on
a franchise tag. And now he's not happy because the
team ends up you know, throwing or you know, ends
up suspending him for one game for what they perceived
was a lack of effort.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, so what you're doing is you're coaching, like in
college coaching, you're coaching out of fear for next year.
If you're out of hey, he may be happy unhappy.
He may leave, he may not resign, and again that's
a this is the really hard part about it. Okay,
Like in college basketball, you bench guys. They can leave
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at the end of the year. Heck, they can leave
whenever they want, and nothing you can do about it. Whatever.
My point is, it doesn't matter what you pay him
or how much you do. If if you don't nip
this in the butt. Now, if you make that in
any way, okay acceptable, then even when you give him
the money, if you want him to stay, he's gonna
be a dog anyway. That doesn't change. Leopards don't just
change their spots over night, especially if this is in
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regards to a contract thing. You're talking in the regular season,
coming off the biggest win of the year, and that's
how you act. I don't want you. You're right, you're right, right.
Remember it's still George Pickens. It's still the guy that
Pittsburgh could not stand. They drafted him. He's super talented,
they couldn't stand. So I don't think he's gonna have
(10:55):
Like do I think you have value elsewhere? Yeah, but
those guys are really hard to win. They are Pittsburgh
obviously not is talented without him, but they're going to
have the same records they had without him as that
with him, because those guys don't help you win. There's
sometimes guys.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
This to me in a Dallas uniform is and that's
what I think he can be judged on in the
immediacy is a first time offense. Whether you want to
take his history in Pittsburgh into giving him a long
term deal or using the franchise franchise tag, that is different.
But I think if this is just a one off
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of like, man, what went on last night, and if
there was a reason or it wasn't a reason, whatever
the case may be, that then deals with the immediate
immediacy of does he play the next game or not?
But then you take all of the information and try
to decide because he has been really good, like he's
been really really good.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, he's super talented.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So for one game to throw it out, you know,
just after one.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Game two and I don't know of that. But if
this is a reaction to the franchise tag, like hey,
you're not you want a big contract, this how you perform,
We're going to pay you top five average salaries. Here's
Jerry Jones the owner after the game.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
He didn't have the game that he's been happy. Uh,
but effort. I would be very careful with him going there.
This guy is a is a He's explosive with his temperament.
And I say that in a positive way. So I
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don't think so much it was an effort. But I
might not. But but I don't necessarily have a good
explanation as to why he didn't show up more. But no,
I'm not at all concerned going forward about pickings. I
would agree with you. I thought we would have more
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with him than we did.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would have thought I would have thought we'd had
more with him than we did without him. That's by
by and large, I've been thinking about it a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
In a shower, I will say that I think Jerry
Jones and I are on the same page.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think you are. I think you are, and I
think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Micah
Parsons is well, he's quickly becoming obviously a fan favorite.
Now I'm playing well for the Packers. But then you know,
now he hates the Bears. Rivalries, he says, are for
the people. It's for the fans. For me, it's just
going out there and dominating. I just don't like him
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because I just see like the disrespect. Here's Micah Parsons
on what he doesn't like about the Bears.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Respect is something that's earned. And these people want to
come here and they want to meet us in our house,
and you know, we got to eventually go to air.
That's you know, if someone comes from you law, what
would you say, So you know, it's that type of
it's about. It's a respect thing, like you know, especially
losing a couple of games at home in the way
we lost him in a fashion like you know, I
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think we have to come together as a defense to
get our respect back. And it starts this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It starts to Sunday to get your respect back. Sesame
Street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn
donate this holiday season at says to me dot org,
because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. I
don't know if the Bears are disrespectful. I mean, he
hasn't played against him, But I do agree with him
that rivalries generally, especially your new player, for fans. But yeah,
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the old talk of respect, I don't know, it seems
like a little bit a reach. Again, agree with the
premise that the rivalries are more for the fans, and
again mostly because he hadn't played against the Bears as
a member of the Packers. It'll be different once you
start playing against them. But then the other part to
it is, yeah, I mean I think that he's searching
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for disrespect, which I haven't seen. I haven't seen there
from the Bears. But the Bears are going to run
the football, and you know, if he sees that as disrespect, great,
I don't know. I haven't seen any of it. It
feels like Micah Parson's making a disrespect out of nothing,
which is what guys do to motivate themselves. But why
would you need motivation when it's the Bears and you're
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still playing to win the division? All Right, it's Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dan. We talked about sports
superstitions earlier this week, So in any way are you superstitious?
With yet or we talked about it Earli this week.
(15:57):
You didn't, but we talked about it early this week.
Sports superstitions. Okay, Ohio State loses last year to Michigan,
they go on to win a national champion We've seen
this from Ohio State previously, not Big ten championship game,
but otherwise, is there a result that convinces you? It's like,
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is it better if Ohio State loses this game? I
guess is the question.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I thought you were going to go down superstition road.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, that's a whole other conversation, but I don't think
that this game matters. I think that it's Indiana's super Bowl.
To be honest with you, I think that I don't
think that Ohio State can gain a ton from this.
We don't even know how the other matchups are being
set up. So if there's a team that Ohio State
doesn't match up with necessarily, well, like you know, a
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Notre Dame team that can run the football better than most,
that would be an interesting matchup considering what happened last year.
We don't know where Notre Dame is going to be
in the bracket, so it may not be beneficial to
be number one as opposed to number four. So I
just I don't think there's a lot to play for.
But I think for Indiana to prove where they they are,
and it's something we talked about this week. I just
I think it's such a huge, huge game for them.
And that's not to give Ohio State any outs. I
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just don't think there's a lot to gain for Ohio
State in this game.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I would agree in being interest to see how
they compete, regardless of it. Mark Dominic Joints just spent
twenty years the NFL frontal offices and in scouting, former gentle
manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. If you're the GM and
the Cowboys, what do you do with George Pickens today?
Speaker 9 (17:24):
Well, you know this is the reason why I got
George Pickens in the first place. Let's go back to
the history of Mike Tommon and receivers at Pittsburgh that
don't fit the culture. He ships them out, whether it's
Chase Claypool and Tonio Brown. You can go down the
list and the guys just disappear off the map once
they leave Pittsburgh. So a little bit you could fault
the Steelers in terms of like, maybe they're missing the
character part. But when Mike Toman tried to trade you
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a wide receiver, or the Pittsburgh Steelers try to trade
you a wide receiver from the Steelers, buyer, beware because
right now they've never been wrong about it. Maybe they've
had a little bit of a glimpse of here or there.
And Pickens has been to Darling. I think this is
one of the ones whereas a GM, if I'm there,
I just come upstairs and ask him to watch the
tape with me.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
That's it.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
I just want him to see that I see what
he sees and know this affects his long term value,
and I would leave it there. I do not cut him,
I do not pull him off the team or anything
like that. I give him a chance to watch the
tape in front of me and see what he.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Does, okay, and what what is the worst possible reaction
and how would you react?
Speaker 9 (18:21):
The worst reaction would be is he gets he gets pissed,
he says something he regrets, where he says something he
shouldn't say, and that's okay if that I mean mean,
if that's how he responds to it. Not seeing it
as Hey, I'm trying to help you here because I
made the trade to get you, and I'm trying to
make sure that you know, you get the most out
of your career and we get the most of your
career as well. And if he can't handle that, well,
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then you know, then I've got to have to have
another discussion with Jerry Jones about my next step of
what I've got to do with him, because if he's
not going to tie the line and show that he
can learn from that. And we've seen this before other
players around the league. Sometimes I get bench for a quarter,
you know this situation. Maybe you say, hey, look, we
can't have that kind of attitude or that kind of effort.
You're not going to start the next game. That's just
the way it is. And then we're gonna see if
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you can, you know, take the next step and get
back on the line. So I think you have to
do that. If you decide he's just not buying it
and he doesn't want to be there, I'm just going
to remind him and McCall's agent, of course, and say,
you do realize your guy is going to be out
of league in one to two years.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm with you. I mean, I would not. You know,
there's some speculation it's because there's been franchise tag talk
like you know, I'm not doing I'm not giving him
some like wait, I'm supposed to give you some big
contract of the act like that in a nationally televised
haandalone game when we're in the playoff hunt. Come on, man,
we're doing here? What are we actually doing? It is
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, the Lions.
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What was better about their offense last night?
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Well, they ran. I mean, you know, obviously running the
ball was really fantastic, and just felt like they understood
the importance of the game. They knew the assignment, so
to speak, and they knew this is a game where
they if they're going to stand in the playoff hunt,
they had to get the victory. And I think the
real Lion showed up last night. Jared Goff made his throws,
but really running the ball, just tackling is better for
the most part. But I think the main part was
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just being able to be balanced. And I think you
saw that last night, and that's exactly what Dan Campbell
wants to be. And you know, I thought the running
game was the big difference.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
All Right, we're getting ready for this weekend Bears Packers.
Packers have speed, Bears have power, and I mean, if
you go by last week an unbelievable running game, Packers
defense feels like it kind of feels like they'll Peyton
Manning Colts defenses and tell me if I'm wrong, But
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the Peyton Manning Colt defenses where we want. Peyton's going
to get the lead and then we're gonna pin my
years back and use our speed to get after the quarterback.
The only times that doesn't work is when somebody's super
conservative and runs the football. Am I accurate in any
way in the comparison?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Yeah, I think you are. And I think for the
Green Bay Packers, you know a guy by the name
of Carl Brooks. He's going to to really step up
on the inside. He's been playing well, I think all
season long with whyatt down and the defensive line. Carl
Brooks is gonna be a name as a Packer fan
that I'm going to be watching really hard to see
how the run game goes and what he can do,
because that's really where he excels at. And so I
just want to see him play in that venue, to
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see how he performs, because that's really the most important
thing for the Packers that now to be able to
shut down that run so they can be that type
of team to get to be, you know, not only
obviously you know pass rushers, but even to some of
the other guys that maybe people don't know as well,
the Edrin Cooper's or whomever that are really I think
speed guys as well off the edge. Let alone to
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
S Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
so let's pop around the league just a little bit
more as we get ready for this weekend. The Steelers
they're taking on the Ravens. I have questions about both teams.
Let's start with the Steelers. You started talking about Mike Tomlin.
Does feel like this is a year where they went
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all in. What's missing? Why are they not better?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Well?
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I think probably the main reason is Aarons I think
finally starting to look even though he's an older quarterback.
I think he's feeling like he's an older quarterback in
the game and the way he's just moving around the field.
And yes, Tom Brady was playing an older level, but
Tom's arm still and Aaron's got a good arm, but
Tom's head and arm and everything. We're really kind of
working together and the Steelers in terms of, you know,
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who's the number two receiver, who's going to be or
who's the number one, who's the number three? Which tight
end can show up and who's going to make the
plays for him?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I just I feel like the Steelers just don't have
the firepower that you want to have. Where we saw
Tom Brady do it, but it was Mike Evans, it
was Chris Godwin, it was a lot of good players
there that were making plays all of obviously Gronk was there,
and so I think that's the difference we see with
the Pittsburgh Steelers is the skill players on offense just
aren't dynamic. And it's been something I think that slowly
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has been pulled away from the Steelers over the last
couple of years. And I think that's why they've kind
of been this fringe team each year. Can they get
over five hundred? I think they'll be over five hundred
this year. But I feel like the Raiders are going
to win this game because, excuse me, the Ravens are
going to win this game because I think they're going
to get the ball into Derek Henry's hands and let
him carry them to a victory.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Okay, let's get to the Chaudeur Sanders. Okay, we got
two games. Now, what's your u as a general manager?
What's your perception of shaudor Sanders?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Sill's kind of the same. You know, I still think
the game is going to happen fast for him. I
think he can draw up plays and make plays, and
he can you know, throw the ball and things like that.
But I still feel like the accuracy part is going
to be an issue for Shadur as he continues to go,
and especially in that mid tier range. Those throws from
like twelve to twenty, those are the ones I really
want to see him get a lot more consistent with
because those are the really the game changers. Those are
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ones you need when you're in third and eight, and
I just don't feel like Shador is hitting those with
a good accuracy right now the way he's throwing the
ball because he feel like he's rushed and I think
he knows where. I think he thinks he wants to
go with it, but I think he's rushing himself and
therefore he's thrown off balance or he's not you know,
really following through with his motion, and I think that's
causing him to be.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Off I would I would agree there. I just yeah,
I don't, I don't know, I don't. I feel like
he's a back peddler. That's who he's been, and they're
trying to protect him, but he's clearly not seeing things
and he doesn't know what he sees. He just dumps
it off like that's his that's kind of his m O. Right.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
He's a young quarterback that doesn't want to lose the
job now, and that's not the way to win the
quarterback job, and that's you know, he's wanting to prove
that he can have the job. But part of that
is being able to say, hey, look let's go rip
this ball down the field and trust my guy's going
to make the play at the fifteen fifteen yards down
the field. And I don't think. I don't think Saduer
looks like that guy that's going to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What is it that Daniel Jones is hurt? Is that
why he's not running as much? What's happened to the Colts?
They went from a dynamic team to one that's kind
of limping to the finish line.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit of that. I
think it's a Johnson Taylor's, you know, the heartbeat of
that team, kind of what we saw with Saquon Barclay
last year. Why the Eagles feel okay this year even
though they're having a very good season for NFL standards.
You know, people are like, that's wrong with the Eagles. Well,
Sekwon Barkley's not running as well. I'd say that Jonathan Taylor,
like as a dev at the coordinator, and if I play
the Colts and you're gonna beat me with Alex Pierce, fine,
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I'll lose, but I'm not gonna let you run Jonathan
Taylor down my throat twenty eight times for one hundred
and forty two yards. I'm just not going to do that.
And so I think that's what coordinators are doing. It's like, hey,
look he can beat us anywhere else, we're just going
to stop the run. And that means the quarterback as well.
And so I think it's a combination. I think they
can find their magic. Though I don't think the Colts
are done. I think that they're going to be a
dangerous out in the playoffs, you know, because I think
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that they can find that with johnthan Pale and have
those kind of games. But right now, I think that's
the whole focus of every DEFENSEI coordinators that slow down
that run game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I think you're I think you're right. This is
the Doug out Leaves Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
How good is Seattle?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Really?
Speaker 9 (25:41):
I like them a lot. I actually think they're really good.
I think that you know, they've got a better offensive
line now going, you know, I think that's a big
piece of it. I think they've got a combination running
game and they're just playing smart defensively, and that really
that's who he is. I mean, when you hired coach McDonald,
you were hiring a defensive genius from the Ravens and
everybody I knew he was a genius. Ever he wasn't
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sure what's he going to be like as head coach.
I had a chance to spend some time with him
at the owners meetings down in South Florida this last
offseason and really enjoyed my conversation with him and just
and I could see why John Schneider picked him to
be the head coach, and I think he does a
good job of educating guys, and players want nothing more
than Doug is. They want to feel like they're getting
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better and smarter in the game, and they'll play better
because of it. When a player walks through a room
and they're looking at the coach and they're like, I
don't know if this guy knows more than I do,
that's a problem. I think in defense, you can't know
more than the coach. He's that smart and he's that good,
and I think that's really helping Seattle, let alone what
Sam Darnold's doing, what they're doing offensively. I think the
defensive part is the confidence is really good in this
football team.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, the
Kyler Murray's not going to play the remainder of the season.
What happens to Kyler Murray moving forward?
Speaker 9 (26:57):
I have a feeling, you know, many Austin Forth, the
general manager there, has made the decisions. This is not
their quarterback of the future. He didn't sign, he didn't
draft him, he didn't sign to the extension. But he's
given him an opportunity I think that they're going to
try to move on. If they can move him, great,
If they can't and they're just going to walk away,
they will. You know, the salary cap is going up
so traumatically over these last few years, and it should
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do it again that you can walk away from some
of these quarterback deals used to never be able to
walk away from. And so I think Arizona's in that
position where they can say, hey, look, we're going to
find the new person. The season has not gone the
way I thought of. Even go Fearerzon, I thought they'd
kind of be one of the sleeper a NC teams.
They're asleep, so they're not sleepers. But I think they're
going to be high enough in the draft to be
able to be a player in terms of getting a
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young quarterback for the future that fits what they want
to be in the mold that they're trying to create
there in Arizona. So I think Calamurray has played his
last game. I don't think he played his last game
in the NFL, but I think he's played his last
game in the Ears.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
On him, Yeah, Chiefs, what's wrong?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Well, the offensive line? You know, this goes back to
always what's wrong with the Chiefs is when the line
falls apart and then we see, you know, it looks
like Tracey Smith's probably isn't playing, Juwan Taylor's not playing,
and when the Chiefs don't have a very good offensive
line all the bucks in the Super Bowl. The Chiefs
just struggle as a football team. And that's why when
they went out and got Joe Thuney and they tried to,
you know, really fix the offensive line Orlando Brown for
a little bit. That's really what the hallmark is for
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them because then it allows Patrick Mahomes to do his magic.
Now Patrick Mahomes are rushing everything and trying to create
some magic, and I think the other thing on the
other side of the ball is just puer speed. They
just don't have it. I just don't feel like it's
a fast football team, especially in the front seven, and
they're missing that a lot. And they tried to fix
it a couple of years ago in the first round
pick with Felix out of Kansas State, but he's just
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not really kind of found a way to get a
role in the defense. They have to have somebody that
can throw a fastball on defense. They don't have that
that's really what's hurting on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Mark is the best man. I really appreciate you joining us.
We're coming to the end, but now you're starting to
see the separation that haves and have not still trying
to figure out who's who's who's any good? Hey, last
last one? R Actually, boy, I forget Monday Night Chargers.
Charge has been banged up forever, getting a little healthier.
But now no Carter for the Eagles, how much does
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that change them in their pass rush?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I think it changes a ton. I think they need
Carter desperately and to have you know, the soldiers or
the surgery work on Carter, hopefully that means that he'll
be back in time to the postseason. Because they need
Jalen Carter. I think he's a big part of what
they do and in certainly a beast on the inside
that he just can't handle from a physical standpoint and
you know, from a just a pure strength standpoint. And
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so I think it's a good matchup. I still think
the Eagles will be the better team. Chargers. With my
AFC team, I thought it was a sleeper. They've done
a really good job where I thought, yeah, I don't
know that was a big sleeper. Arizona's my NFC team.
Philly is the team I think we're gonna see a
lot more stake on Barkley. I think now it's time
to jump on the horse and ride it all the
way through December into the postseason. They've got him healthy,
Let's run him to make sure we try to find
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a way to make sure we get this number one
seed and be in position to re you know, run
back a super Bowl and you know, really be the
team that maybe talk more with the dynasty. I love
the Chargers. I just think the offensive line is going
to come back and haunt them. Losing your starting two
tackles is really tough to overcome. They've done a good
job with it, but I still think the Eagles are
a fundamentally overall better team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Great stuff. Mark Dominic spent over twenty years in the
NFL front offices and scouting. Former gentlemenager of the Tampay Buccaneers,
he joins us weekly year in the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Mark you the best man. Appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
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Speaker 2 (30:44):
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Explore everywhere. Let's get to the press with Dan Byer.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
The Press Doug any chairs go flying in the wind?
Last night? Uh in the backyard in the what what
come on on?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No chairs were injured in the filming of this sere
radio show.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Anything for the back patio, any any other patio chairs?
Flying the wind wind took care.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's funny, Like I have these. I have like three
awesome managers, right yeh. And this is a note on chairs.
I was having a tough night with chairs anyway. So
you know last year I would just get on one
knee or whatever and draw to them and kill gans.
Is like, dude, just grab a chair. But we have
these stools. So every time at a time out, there's
supposed to be a stool and then my whiteboard and
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a pen. And I'm telling you, you know, you go back.
There was like eleven timeouts in that game, and at
eleven timeouts, none of them did I have all three
of those things. Just like dude, they're like, oh sorry, coach,
we forgot your pen, or they bring me the pen
and the no board. I'm like, I felt like the
(32:37):
end of coming to America, sir. Try the soup. Is
it too hot? Is it too cold? Where's this moon?
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Ugh? Ha?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Anyway, I was having I was having a tough night
with the chairs, the stools, and the whiteboard.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Well, Lebron James had a great night last night in Toronto.
Now I'm curious if the NBA is gonna have a
say because he is not gonna play tonight in Boston.
Lebron has been ruled out of their second half of
their back to back. It is a game that is
on Prime video. I also know Lebron is not retiring
because this could be his last game in Boston and
he would not miss that because he'd want to at
least have some sort of ovation. But Lebron James out
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tonight for the Lakers. Remember, the Calves were fined not
playing Darius Garland in a national TV game and having
him play in the non national televised game. They were
fired yesterday. It happened about a week or so ago.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Interest right, it's all about It's all about gambling. It's
all about the gamblers, and about National TV and all
the money that these networks are spending. The only thing
is every game is on some level in n Ashley televised.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So a while back, we had a debate here at
Fox Sports Radio and I lost overwhelmingly that Caitlin Clark
was more popular than Aaron Judge well, Caitlin Clark was
not on stage today for the final draw of the
twenty twenty six World Cup. Aaron Judge was. He was
one of four athletes to grace the stage vindicated. So
(34:03):
I'm telling you I was playing the long game, the
long game in all of this, not the long game,
the long game. But he was joined on stage by
such other dignitaries as Tom Brady, Shaquille O'Neill, and Wing Gretzky.
Let's take a listen on how are stars of the
sporting world fared in their duties in announcing the final draw?
(34:32):
But I see you Tom Brady with Brazil. What do
you guys think of that accent from Tom Brady?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
But I see you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That's how you actually do say it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But I see you, well he was married to.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes, that help, that was not lost. I thought he
spiced it up a little bit. All right, here's Shack's turn.
Career Republic, there's Korea? Had South Korea? Sounds like he
said career republic, did.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Career public? Public career Republic? Public career, republic, career?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Can you just say South Korea?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Career Republic?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It's not what it says on the gotta read what
the what the ballot says.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And then the one put the right and fastest, the
right sylbl He's he's.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
The great one. But it's the one that's been getting
a lot of hype on social media.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Karaco.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
That was Wayne Gretzky announce Curasaw today.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Kaka Karaco, Karaco, Kaco.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
It's like karrakas Venezuela. It's Kirasa, like you said, right, Karaco.
It's like when people say kai, but it's is an
as i Kaco saibo.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's like who says people in the Midwest say Oregon, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's true, Well there's an Oregon Wisconsin. So people will say,
I know people from Wisconsin will call Oregon.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Player from Oregon, Wisconsin, Indiana?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Who did who did it better? Was it Caraca or
did John Travolta do it better?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Uh? See?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
President Trump was also there and it was kind of
we knew what he was going to draw, So this
is what Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
You know what this is going to be now everything,
But let's are you sure? Are you sure this is
the greatest drug. Some people are saying that this is
the most incredible.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
United States of America excellent group one. All right, did
two A tag did they did you announce he was
going to do the greeting?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Should have had President George W. Bush up there. He
was always good for mispronunciation. Tag oh volley.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
My favorite part was I played four sound bites, and
in three of them, you guys just talked all over
the start. I just would not shut up until we
could finally hear and see I can't do it, can't
do it? All right, Penn State's on the verge of
hiring Matt Campbell to be their next head coach.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Help you out here, Penn State fans. Okay, it's not
just because I'm a coach. I'm just telling, like Matt
Campbell's good. Who cares how many guys said no, nobody cares.
Nobody ever looks back and goes like, hey, you know
it was a third choice, which, of course Matt Campbell
the classic media joke that's not funny that he will say, Jase,
do you know this is well, you know as my
wife's third choice, ha ha ha. No, really, it was
(37:48):
my wife's third choice. Two other guys did the deal
didn't make And that is the press.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That is the press may get out there and pressed.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Mama Ohio State. That's what thinks wins this Doug Gotlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 3 (38:03):
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