May 1, 2024 • 38 mins
During this version of "The Midway" Doug and the crew discuss the best play-by-play announcers in the NBA, past and present. FSR NBA Analyst Olden Polynice joins Doug to talk about the Lakers, Lebron and the other major headlines from the NBA playoffs. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a Wednesday version of "The Press".
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We had a surprising win by the Bucks. We had
an incredible comeback by the Sixers. So wait, help me
out with this, am I. The Sixers come back and
win and beat us nine turnovers doesn't play well. And
Colin's reaction was, you need to trade embid? Is that
is that right? I get the right.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I heard him say that you need to trade embiid,
but he's been saying that for a while now that
you need to move him because his value is high
and you can get a lot for him now. But
he's broken down a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
He's always broken. He's always broken down, like he's a
you know, I don't understand the Like there's there's three
or four human beings on Earth that are in Joel
Embiid's orbit. Three or four human beings on Earth. So
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unless you're going to get such a haul that you
can get a replacement Big Star Wings or whatever. Unless
you're going to get a replacement Hall, like there's you're
not going to get any sort of train. And like,
again I don't I don't understand that. I know he's
been hurt. I know he gets hurt a lot. He
was the MVP of the league. Any tell me the
(02:10):
star player who's like thirty year older that hasn't gotten hurt.
Oh wait, Paul George broke his leg, Kawhi Leonard multiple injuries,
Russell Westbrook one of the things that changed his career
is for knee surgeries. James Harden just got fat and
(02:31):
had bad hamstrings.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Mmm, see here, Lebron's gotten hurt. You know, didn't really
get hurt this year Anthony Davis has gotten hurt, like
you kind of go through it. And the amazing thing
about Lebron is he's like the only guy who up
until like last five years, he was never hurt, never hurt.
But yeah, the let's get rid of Joel embiid thing
(02:54):
is a weird one. That one I didn't see coming.
Don't see coming. It's Wednesday, which is hump day. It's
the middle of our show. We have a one hour
podcast which starts in one hour. You can download that
in the iHeart Radio network, iHeart Podcast Network, or just
wherever we download podcast type in Doug Gottlieb Middle of
(03:17):
the day, middle of the week, middle of the show.
Let's get to the midway.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
He's not getting the middle with you. It's time for
the middle the midway.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Um, let's get after it here. Okay, so the midway.
We don't usually do these, I don't want to say
generic topics, but the type of topics which you know
some radio shows do on a daily basis where everybody
gets to jime in.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Top of the mind, top line, but there is in
a huge breaking story today, typical for Wednesdays. So here's
what I thought, guys, and I think it was actually
Jason's suggestion.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yes, no doubt, it was definitely my suggest.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You suggested specifically your favorite play by play voice of
in the NBA or all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Time or what NBA current or past, up, current or past?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Why? Why play by play only?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I just I wanted to narrow it down because we
have a play by play announcer on our crew today.
That's not the that's not the typical day, Isaac blow
and Crawn has. He's an acclaimed play by play announcer,
and I thought he would have an interesting perspective on this.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And a few people.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Did you know I've done two NFL games that play
a player?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
How many? What what you're doing? You're doing a bunch
of sports, right name?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Does a lot? Do all the sports?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
MLS, soccer, basketball, football, any anything anyone's foolish to pay
me for.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, So I want this is a It's an important
distinction you bring up because so many people who are
what do the kids say mid or suss on on
on X or on other forms of social media. When
you go like, hey, who's your favorite play by play announcer,
they'll put like a color analyst in there, or you
(05:25):
say who's your favorite analyst and then put a play
by play guide? Right, So this is just play by
play men or what.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's open for debate if you guys are feel let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
No, but you can't rank an analyst with a play
and play by play. It's it's a completely different job,
completely different job. And in radio it's all play by
play like that's it's a play by play person's job.
In TV, it's really is a team and you have
to do your work and be a good teammate. Fair
(05:59):
I loove Yes, Okay, Isaac, you having done it, your
favorite NBA guys of all the time? Playo play.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I'm gonna throw you too. We'll start with chick hern
take it back to Game four of the nineteen eighty
seven NBA Finals and Magic Johnson's junior sky hook.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The left goes Magic, He's got it.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
He didn't shoot a five seconds left, Maggie got the medal.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Just what I thought, a hook shot a.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Twelve god two second clip. The Lakers take the lead
on Magic Johnson's running sky.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Hook and my last contribution, the late, great, longtime voice
of the Chicago Bulls, Jim Durham. We take you to
the shot Michael Jordan over Craig Elo the deciding game
of the nineteen eighty nine Playoffs.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
In bound pass comes into teorgan. Here's Michael at the
Foliner shot on Eloud Dousion set day Cleavoo Cavalaires. Michael
Charton hits at the found line on the one hundred
twenty thousand, two hundred and seventy three talents hearing the
colin Feo.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So there you go, Chick Hern and Jim Durham both
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
My first gig with ESPN Radio was with Jim Durham.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This is a oh yeah, hell, it's my show. I
don't care, Okay. So here's the story, guys, and I
tell this story often, just not an air. I haven't
told them told much, which is in two thousand and three,
two thousand and two, two thousand and three, I called
games on ESPN, ESPN plus Cowboy Sports Properties did a
(07:41):
radio show in Oklahoma City. As soon as the season
was over, I went and played in France. And when
playing in France, I played against Michael pe Truce and
Boris Diaw. The year before I played against Darko when
I was in Israel. He was playing at him from
Brosick in Yugoslavia. I throught these names because I called
the gentleman who hired me at s PN was a
man named Dan Steer. Dan Seer was known as the Vision.
(08:03):
I called Vision and I said, hey, Dan, I would
love And I just got back from France because I
played for like a month and a half, two months
filled in, just kind of got out of my system,
loved it, and I was like, dude, I'd love to
do the NBA draft. He was like, I can't use you.
I have plenty of guys, but maybe radio could use you.
And I was like, but Dan, I know the international guys.
I know the high school guys. I know Lebron my
(08:23):
dad said AU coach. My brother's a college assistant. I
covered college. He's like, I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I can't use it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Radio maybe could use it. So I get the radio
gig and I go to our meeting. And I didn't
know Jim Durham was doing it. And I didn't actually
know a ton about Jim Durham. So Kevin Lockery and
Fred Carter with the other two analysts Bulldog Okay, Bulldog
Fred Carter, who of course, was the best player in
the worst team in NBA history and was an NBA
(08:52):
coach and he had the point, the Fred Carter point
on TV remember that. And Kevin Lockery Murph as he's
known was uh. They coached Jordan at the Bulls and
he was the one who came up with the great
offensive idea. Let's give them all, Michael Jordan put everybody
on the other side of the court. That's good coaching anyway.
(09:13):
I'll never forget. Like Jim the very first instruction, Good
Evening live from Madison Square Garden, Jim Durham with longtime
NBA analysts Kevin Lockery Murph, how are you? And uh Uh?
I was with a bulldog uh and Fred Carter and
we actually had as the point sound effect and a
newcomer Doug Gotlick and I was just there to be
(09:34):
like the darko guy and the international guy. But they
had just got done doing the NBA Finals, so they
didn't know any of the guys. And once you got
past Carmelo, I became el Kipper Junior and that's how
I got my start. And then you know, uh, Bruce
Gilbert used to be our boss, used to be a
boss here at Fox Sports now he runs Westwood one.
(09:56):
And he called me and he's like, hey, can you
talk any other sport? And I said, yes, three of them.
I worked to know Clomam City football spring football recruiting,
and I got an audition at ESPN Radio and the
rest is history. So there you go, Jim. But anyway,
I call my dad the first after the first night
that we watch all the videos on all the guys
as the Merriott Marquis, and I was like, Dad, He's like,
who are you working with? And I said, Fred Carter
(10:16):
starts giving me there and I was like, Jim Durham.
He's like, you're working with Jim Durham. He's like, do
everything that man tells you to do. Rest in peace,
Jim Durham, all right, give me yours Chasing Sturt no Midway.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
All right, I've got two as well. And I'm going
to expound a little bit on chick Hern. I often
say that chick Hern and Vince Scully were the soundtrack
of my childhood. I went to sleep with their voices
during their season. And chick Hern isn't really only a
Laker thing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I don't know if he ever did it in anything
national ilill would know this, not me, but he is
like worldwide known, like nationally known, even though I think
he was specific to the Lakers. So chick Hern taught
me basketball like I would not know basketball today if
I did not listen to check Hern.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He was.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
He was like a teacher as well as I played
by play guy. He often condescended Keith Moore. I think
it was Keith Morrison, or who's.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Keith Erickson or Keith You would even be great if
being worked with Keith Morrison though.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, and Stu Wlentz and I I for whatever reason,
was amused by that because he was so dismissive and
condescending sometimes. But check Hern suffered no fools. I've talked
to people that supported him and produced him, and he
was a pain in the ass, which which is fine
if you're brilliant like check Hern.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Now, by the way, most people in this industry that
are great day t Rico is like maybe one of
the only ones I know who's seen as like Mike
Rico is one of the kindest, nicest, most thoughtful men
I have ever come into contact with. Iin Eagle is
just hilarious and a great dude, But a lot of
(11:58):
the guys who are the best best are pretty rough
on people that aren't prepared for their job.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Absolutely, and Chick I think was maybe a top of
that list. Real time text here from Bernie Fratto. He
has two shows on the weekend, Bernie Fratto here at
Fox brus Radio. I had my dealings with chick Her.
I'll never forget. Right after Magic Johnson was drafted the
next day, he was livid. Chick wanted Sydney Moncreef thought
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Magic lumbered gracefully.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But couldn't shoot. He later rescind it great story, Bernie,
thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'd be amazing if that was a tweet right where
chick Hern's like, man, why did we take we need
city monacup? Give her to Magic?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Was it Twitter or X back then?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You know the whole thing about Twitter not like the
whole name change thing has not worked and nobody calls
it X well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Elon Musk went on this weekend and said, what's a
better name? X or Twitter?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And he got flooded with Twitter just because it's the
most recognizable. If you type in Twitter dot com, it
still goes to X. Like everything about it is still tweeter.
We still say tweet, we say retweets.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, how about this. Can you recite word for word
how he would call a game over?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I can, no, no, no, I know you can. It's
in the refrigerator. Yes, the jiggling.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh wait, wait, you forgot the first part.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What's the first part?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Doors closed doors, closed, lights are out, lights are out,
Eggs are cooling, butter's getting hard.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And he added along the way, by the way, the
juggles jiggling. I think was kind of a later at.
I could be wrong, but no, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Slam Dunk was him, air Ball was him, air Ball
was him, Ali Upe I believe was him. Nothing but
net was him.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean he had some other ones that didn't take off, right,
but I think he also did. You can't stop him.
You can only hope to contain him. I think that
was That was chick So you must be jelly because
jam doesn't shake like that. That's chick Hern. Chick Hern.
I mean, think about we grew up with chick hearn,
(14:19):
and then the Dodgers had the goat as well. And
here's what's amazing about East Coast Guy, East Coast Guy
squares everything. East Coast is way better than West Coast.
Wasn't dick Enberg our play by play guy? When I
grew up? I got here with the Angels. I remember
dick Enberg calling.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Game Angels and Rams, and a lot of my friends
that watched the sports say, I guess Bob Miller is
the best that hockey has, but I wouldn't know the king.
I don't ever watch absolutely Iowa grad.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, thank you. Everything All things Iowa by Iowa at
least circles back. So chick Hern anybody else you want
to play in that list?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I was gonna say Kevin Harlin was my favorite current
because he such a pro and he's got the best voice,
and that video of him like telling stan Van Gandhi
to wait it out last spring was iconic.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Uh and don't don't you know let me BA, don't
choke the moment, don't talk over that sound?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What you got there?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Sam? You got any By the way, nobody's mentioned Brent Musburger.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, I Brenmusberger is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He did NBA though, yes, way back there, but that
was well before my time, so I he's one of
my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Stockton stock Stockkin Dick Love.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Brent Musburger is a college football play by play guy.
But you know, full disclosure, I didn't really start following
the NBA, probably to like the turn of the millennium here.
But I'll give to Kevin's Kevin Harlan and I love
Kevin Collabro. I love Calvin Collaboro's voice.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right, Allen is getting signals from above.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He's great. So yeah, those are little Susie Waldman in it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Sorry, I don't do a get Kevin Collaboro, but we
used to win. I used to do a nighttime show.
We play Kevin Collaboro highlights back when he's the SuperSonics
guy forever. He's amazing and awesome dude as well, I
feel like we're missing somebody. Yes, you are missing somebody
and somebody else as well. You guys didn't like Costas, No, no,
(16:19):
we just have our own. This is for you, I mean,
but you didn't like, like I'm a full disclosure. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So I don't remember Costas as a basketball guy. I
know he did the ABA stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
He did three seasons as the number one voice on.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
NBC was I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, I Marv had the Marv had the uh yes
fighting a woman, right, he was nibbled on a woman
and so he people forget like you can if you
come back from that now. I don't know if Marv
could come back from that now, but then he came
back from it. But during the OJ chase, I believe
that's when Costas was calling the finals. No, who's calling
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the finals that day?
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Which a ways in studio it was Marv A. Costas
during the OJ chase was in the studio on site
at the Garden that night. But Costas to the NBA
finals nineteen ninety eight through two thousand. So ninety eight
was the Jordan last shot against the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, good, Isaac Lohancron historian Isaac Lowan cro can give
him a shot out.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think he's got in this screen.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Brian Russell by the way, Cleveland High School, Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Then to Long Beach State.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I got another.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I do love Dan Schulman.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I love Dan Shulman.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He does not do NBA. Oh I'm sorry, he does
college basketball?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yes, yeah, loved amazing guy does the Blue Jays games.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Talent.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We've actually I've brought up Dan Shulman, for I have
a couple of criteria for like, if you're just a
good play by play, let things breathe, don't be annoying,
and be at least be interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So the guys that I mentioned are really good.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's that's that's in depth, because depth, Sam Well.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean a lot of times guys don't let things breathe.
They will be annoying and uh, they'll just say generic
cliches and then I'm like, eah, I'm tuned out.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The best don't do that. Iron Eagle, by the way,
is do not do that. I've worked with Ian.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Ian's great.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He's amazing, and Iron is, without cursing, maybe the funniest
person I know. I mean, he's amazing. I don't know.
I mean just and he was great last night.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And that's a talent I've worked. I mean, a part
of it is great.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Friend of mine. But he called a great game last night.
I think Spiro is really good. You know, Spiro has
been the voice of the Nicks, the voice of the
Lakers as well, and he's amazing covering the NBA. I
like Harlan.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
One of the issues I think sometimes with play by
play guys is you know, they hang on a little
bit too long, and Dick Stockton a little bit late
in the was a little bit too long. So and
even Brent when Brent was calling the Raider games at
the end like it was not near It was not
prime Brent Musburger.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Prime.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Brett Musburger was big time. Now games are also called
differently now than they work. Yeah, but I I think
we've kind of circled in on the best. I mean,
Chick was incredible, incredible, but different than the national guys.
And when basketball was at its peak, it was Brent,
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Dick Stockton. When I forget when my blanking had a
couple years aw at Marv and then Costas. Costas was
really good, really really really really really good and work
with some bad color guy color analysts. I'm not gonna
mention names because I won't bring up Magic Johnson at all.
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Speaker 2 (20:03):
When Tom slips away leaves you another mister, but Gloris.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Dorri the.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Olden Bay Well now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Old Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You
know that song, It means we're talking NBA with an
old head. Oh, I Loo's got the uh the phone
light out. In the Week of the Young Girl, z
O Day clips back even at two a piece, Bucks
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go No Superstars into a blowout win. Nick's gag as
Tyree s Maaxey was amazing, and uh what next for
the Lakers. Let's welcome in. He's an old head. He's
our Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst. He's Opie Olden. Poulnies
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Can we can we start with the Lakers?
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We start with the Lakers. If you're if you're in charge,
tell me what you do with this team.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Right now? As constructed. I gotta go get some lens.
I need some wings, you know. I like Vanderbilt and
all that with his lens, but I can't rely on me.
I mean, the last couple years he's been hurt. I
gotta get somebody that's and can shoot. I need shooters,
you know, I mean, Ad this is probably the most
games he's played in ten thousand years, and so it
(21:30):
was just great to see that. And Lebron is still serviceable.
I mean, he's not the same Lebron. Let's get that straight,
you know. But that's twenty one years in so you
have to kind of, like, you know, play with that
a little bit. Sure, But at the same time, I
do believe that my team is better served without Lebron
(21:50):
because I when you watch the Lakers play when he's out,
it's a different team. It's not in day and I
think that has to be addressed. You know, whether it's
a seance, some therapy, I don't know what it is,
but that has to be addressed. How you guys played
one way when he's there, you play a totally different
way when he's not.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
When you say it has to be addressed, how do
you address it? I mean, do you do you trade him?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
I don't know if I'm going to trade him. I
just like I said, maybe I just go to the guys. Hey, okay,
I need you guys to play like this when Lebron
is in the in the lineup, Okay, the way you
guys say when he's out, relaxed, confident, you know, stop
deferring so much to him. He is thirty nine years old.
You don't have to defer to him anymore. He's legendary.
(22:44):
I get it, you guys. I know a bunch of
the players they grew up watching him, so they are
in awe. But you have to stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a hard one. It is
clearly a difficult one for so many of these guys
to do because he's He's Lebron James and but yes,
the ball stops when it gets to Lebron. Okay, let's
let's get to some of those series. Clippers tonight, Kawhi
still out. They've been better with Kawhi out than they
(23:14):
have Kawhi in. But you know it all some of
it depends upon the Mavericks, not as much the Clippers.
What do you think of the Clippers Mavericks series?
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Well, I was surprised by the last game only because
that they held on to win. That was the surprise.
I expected that, you know, the Mavericks to come back
from thirty one down, but I thought the Clippers were
going to win. So the shock for me was the
fact that they held on and won. But they're not
going to shoot like that every night. I mean, Harden
(23:47):
and Paul George and Norman Power. These guys are just
knocking down shot after shot. The he shot was the
Paul George shot in the corner with a man traped
all over him, and that went in. Once he hit,
that game was over in my opinion. But again, they're
not going to play that well every night, you know,
I thought, Dallas, you know, the problem with them right
now is the fact that number one Luca is a
(24:08):
low hobbled But you know, it's just the fact that
you know, they haven't played some really good defense. But
it's you know, that game kind of like everything they
did the prior games got basically thrown away with that.
I don't know what you want to call it. That's showing,
you know, to be down thirty one points at home,
(24:29):
that's some insane stuff to me. And it took everything
out of them, you know, just fighting to get back
to you know, to being up one, and so to me,
they got to find a balance somewhere within their their
whole style of playing basketball. But I do see this
this series going seven, you know, and the Kawhi thing.
I mean, they should be used to this, but now, Doug,
(24:54):
she should be used to this. Don't expect Kawhi anymore.
The knee is shot, you know, and so he's gonna
have the sub sis. He thinking about, you know, maybe
possibly possibility of retiring because you know, it's like it'll
miss now with him.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Really is sad because he's such such a talented player,
but they haven't been able to figure it out and
get it right. He's he's like that, He's like, he's there,
Mike Trout, That's what he is, you know, he's he's there,
He's there, Mike Trout. Let me, uh, let's go to
Sixers Knicks last night. Uh Brunson amazing, tyres Maxey even
more amazing. But there's a litany of the in the
(25:32):
succession of things that went wrong for the Knicks, right
for the Sixers, right up, six twenty eight seconds to go,
and Tyrese Maxey's shot faked, he didn't travel under the
shot fake, but he jumps in, gets the foul and
one makes a free throw, so six to four. Then
Josh Hart misses badly the front end of of a
of a two shot foul, makes a second one, and
(25:52):
it it sounded like if you listen to the broadcast
that Tibbs told. Tibbs told uh, the guard garden, the
ball to foul, doesn't foul, Duce McBride and they come
and I mean it wasn't a walking shot, but it
was a it was a rhythm jump shot from the
logo that Tyrese Maxey knocks down. Where do you, as
(26:15):
a guy who's been in those situations, where do you
lay lay the most blame?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Well, the blame really, I don't even think there's blame
outside of the foul by Mitchell Robinson. I don't think
they was blamed to go around. It's just Matsy willed
his team to win. That was it, you know. The
four point play was a catalyst. But again that's the
only blame that I see. Everything else is it is
(26:42):
what it is. But I'm not foulowing somebody when I'm up.
No one's ever blocked really a three point shot, and
especially with the new rules now, you're not gonna block
it because for you to block the shot, you have
to get in his face, you know. And so to me,
I don't know why guys are still doing this crap
of plunging out and doing all this stuff. These guys
(27:03):
are crafty now, and so to me, just let him
if he makes it. He makes It's always been a
fifty fifty proposition, So let him shoot him. So the
blame goes to Mitchell Robinson's following him, but the one
with MAXI pulled no oney. Max has never shown himself
to be that kind of shooter. And so to me
it was like, hey, he.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Took that shot here, okay, so let me let me
hit you something. You tell me you're totally allowed to
opie because you've done this for so long to disagree.
I respect you that much, Okay, I think who's screwed up? Honestly,
it's tips. And let me tell you why. When you're
up six, right, you're up six twenty eight seconds ago.
The only way you lose, only way you lose is
(27:42):
if you give up threes, let alone foul on threes.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Most definitely okay, So.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Why play Mitchell Robinson? Why play a traditional shot blocking
big play switch off? If they get by and they
get to the bucket and they post you up and score, fine, great,
you still have to get two possessions. We get foul,
we go down, and we knocked him prietos. It's said
at least a two, if not a three possession game
again and then okay, and then when Josh Hart misses
(28:10):
the first free throw, you gotta be willing to sub
in for the shooter if he makes the second, or
sub in for Mitchell Robinson again, same thing. You had
to know they had to have a three. And while
Tyrese Maxey doesn't traditionally hit Logo threes, the fact is
you hadn't know he's gonna shoot, and he was up
closer in the drop, but that should be you should
(28:30):
be right there on the ball screen, an easy switch.
Make him make it two, make it make it too.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
So I totally agree. I totally agree what you just said.
And hence when I said Mitchell Robinson's to book, I
mean Mitchell Robinson didn't sub himself in. Yes, no, Tims
put him in the game, you know. And this is again,
this is all coaching, you know, or telling the guy,
do not foul the three point shooter. If he goes
(28:57):
by you, fine, we'll live with a two. I mean
it used to be the mentality, you know. I'm just
gonna push out on him, make him go buy me
if I want him to drive. I'm not challenging. I
just want to stay at there. Just get in that
in that space to where he goes by me. I
want him, please beat me. And that's not what happened.
(29:19):
He jumped for god.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Knows what.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You can jump, just jump straight up in the air,
but or just be big. Make him make a shot
over the top of seven foot long seven foot stand
there and be seven feet It seems so easy from
our chair. It really, it really does.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
But it is easy, dougu they make it hard.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I do, I do, in fact get it. Any cause
for concern with the Pacers where the Bucks came out
with completely different energy and blew him out last night
without their.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Two stars, oh, I mean none. I mean the Paces
they're gonna win at home. The fear or the Anks
is going to be if they lose the game six
at home. Now we got a problem, you know. But
at the same time, I mean, I thought, you know,
Milwaukee's on life support, so they had to come out
(30:12):
and play that way again. Malie Beasley knockdown shots. Yes,
Chris Middleton did a night shot carry them.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Pap was good last night. That the best playing.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
I mean, he's an annoyance, but he was really a
good annoyance for Milwaukee again. Is Pat Bellwie gonna play
like that in the next game. You know, that's another one.
It'll miss.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
How how much of a buyer are you into Oklahoma City?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
I would say I'm about I'm seventy. I like them.
I like the youth, I like the the swag that
they play with, you know, diagnosis coach of the air.
I think the catalyst, of course, is Shay because of
the fact that you can't rushed him. That's the problem
(31:02):
for every other team. You're not gonna speed up shake
Gilgis and so to me, that's gonna be the key
for them. As long as he's in control, the rest
of the teams in control. And so to me, the
Williams is the jail, the two jail and Williams is
I mean teams. That's what I'm saying. Teams pass up
on players and then when they get in the right situation,
(31:23):
they look like superstars, and it's absurd to me. I'm like,
wait a minute, somebody else could have had this guy.
But I like them a lot. You know, I'm not
saying they're gonna win the championship, but they're gonna be
a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, what about the Wolves. I mean, obviously you know
they got a guy who who Anthony Ewards is something.
How do you think they match up with the Nuggets?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
They match up really well, and they're going to post
the biggest problem to that them the Nuggets repeating. So
to me, whoever comes out of that series is the
Western Conference champion. That's how I'm looking at I'm called it.
Whoever comes up that series as the West coult. I
don't know who's gonna god Anthony Edwards, but they need
(32:08):
to figure that one out, no question. Joker is gonna
have his handful, sure, because the key for Minnesota is
the fact that they not only have Rudy gober defensive players,
but they have cal Anthony who can match up size wise.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes, yes, they they were.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
They were.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
They were absolutely ahead of it, going back to last
year when people said why did you go get Gobert?
Because the league has changed and that that team has
six nine, six ten seven foot across the front line.
And if you don't match up with it, you know
you're gonna get You're gonna get your brains beat.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
In by him.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And I do think Minnesota matches up with it.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I hope you're the best.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
You know what's gonna happen. Dad, They're gonna play it.
They're gonna play Jokics on top more. They're gonna pull
Rudy Gober out.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, you play you pull them out. I mean again,
Like my thing is like if you're Jokics. If Jokic
makes five threes, hey tip your cap. He doesn't usually
make he makes one or two, and then it's all
the crafty passing or whatever. They beat you a lot
of different ways, but it gives them a chance by
having that size.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. You guys know the
old foul up three thing?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Foul up three? Do you know why you foul up three?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Two free throws?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay? Oh if you're up three points, okay, Elijah can
make this into it. Let me just give you the
how many things have to go right or how many
things have to go wrong, depending on what side you're in. Right,
if you're the the Philadelphia seventy six ers and you're
(33:49):
down three points last night with how many seconds was
it l was like ten seconds ago or something like
that when when he got the bomb bounce. Okay, if
you're the Philadelphia seventy six ers and you're down three,
in order to tie or win the game, you have
to and and you're just shooting threes. All you gotta
do is shoot a three, which is all Maxi did.
He got to open, he drove up to court, and
his left hand switch to his right hand, came up
(34:10):
five ball screen logo three bang. One thing had to
go right.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You want to wait till usually under seven or under
six seconds, so you limit the number of possessions that
the other team would get. But then if you foul.
Here's all the things that have to go right for
the seventy six ers to force overtime or maybe even
win the game. You do bring losing into the equation potentially. Okay,
(34:36):
Maxi would have to make the first free throw that
is not one hundred percent make first of all, a
lot of times guys that are thinking about missing that
second free throw miss the first one. So you got
to make the first free throw. He's like an eighty
percent free throw shooter, so again, not one hundred percent,
is eighty percent. He makes the first one, then you
have to intentionally miss the second one unintentionally missing, then
(34:59):
you have to you get the rebound or tap the
ball out. Then the ball has to be tapped out
to a teammate who has to get the ball. Then
they have to make a shot, and they have to
make it three, and they made the first free throw.
It all those things go right, you have the lead.
If they make a two, you tie the game. So
I'm at five or six or even seven things that
have to go right, as opposed to if you don't foul,
(35:21):
only one thing has to go right scent overtime. And
I don't blame TIBs for because he was saying to
foul to Douce McBride, but I do blame TIBs for
the lineup that he had in there at the end
of the game. Let's get to Isaac Glow and Crow
with the press.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
The press, all right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
The Philadelphia seventy six Ers and fanatics are teaming up
to purchase and distribute over two thousand tickets of Ward
Tomorrow's Game six in Philadelphia. The tickets will be distributed
free to quote first responders, healthcare professional Yeah, Community GREW,
and other local Philadelphia based organizations to harness the intensity
(36:05):
and excitement for tomorrow's crucial showdown with the New York Knicks.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Unquote.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The gesture is also obviously seen as a ploy to
keep Nicks fans out.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yes, yes, we don't want those obnoxious New Yorkers. We
want more equally and incredibly obnoxious Philadelphians in our building.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Staying in basketball. As people remember, a couple of weeks ago,
Johntay Porter, the older brother of Denver's Michael Porter Junior,
was banned from the NBA for gambling. Days after that,
another older brother, Coban Porter, was sentenced to six years
in prison for dy vehicular homicide. Well, today it was
(36:48):
revealed that over the weekend, Porter's younger brother, Javon Porter,
was arrested this past Friday night in Missouri on suspicion
of d wy Porter average sixteen points for Pepperdine last
season before transferring to Loyal La Marymount.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, the Porters are a very religious family. I
know the dad, Michael Porter. He's been a college coach
women's side and men's side. And the only thing I
could say is it's really sad, and I don't know
if homeschooling your kids in effort to shelter them ends
up benefiting them long time. It's the only thing I
can think of. But what a just a tough week
for a family.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
So your older brother gets sentenced to six years in prison. Yeah,
and you go out and get a dui? Like what
if that doesn't work as a determine?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
What what would?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm not really sure. I just I don't get it.
I don't get anybody who gets a dui nowadays, Like
it's not that hard to press the button on your phone.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Finally, in the aftermath of Denver elimiting the Lakers from
the playoffs the other night, the Honorable Mayor of Los Angeles,
Karen Bass, tweeted and again, I quote, proud of our
team at Lakers. Tough, but at least we won the
D season tournament unquote. After getting roasted for that tweet,
(38:07):
the tweet was deleted and replaced by you left it
all on the floor, Thank you at Lakers.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Why can't.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Why can't they just be a sarcastic tweet? It could
be read as out of touch or sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
She's definitely out of touch. She's definitely out of touch.
But it comes. If it was sarcastic, it'd be really good. Yeah,
it'd be great, really good. But she meant it all time, genuinely.
Magic Johnson thought that was a bad tweet, and that's.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
The press Bay get out there and pressed.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
That was the press.
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We had a surprising win by the Bucks. We had
an incredible comeback by the Sixers. So wait, help me
out with this, am I. The Sixers come back and
win and beat us nine turnovers doesn't play well. And
Colin's reaction was, you need to trade embid? Is that
is that right? I get the right.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I heard him say that you need to trade embiid,
but he's been saying that for a while now that
you need to move him because his value is high
and you can get a lot for him now. But
he's broken down a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
He's always broken. He's always broken down, like he's a
you know, I don't understand the Like there's there's three
or four human beings on Earth that are in Joel
Embiid's orbit. Three or four human beings on Earth. So
(01:46):
unless you're going to get such a haul that you
can get a replacement Big Star Wings or whatever. Unless
you're going to get a replacement Hall, like there's you're
not going to get any sort of train. And like,
again I don't I don't understand that. I know he's
been hurt. I know he gets hurt a lot. He
was the MVP of the league. Any tell me the
(02:10):
star player who's like thirty year older that hasn't gotten hurt.
Oh wait, Paul George broke his leg, Kawhi Leonard multiple injuries,
Russell Westbrook one of the things that changed his career
is for knee surgeries. James Harden just got fat and
(02:31):
had bad hamstrings.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Mmm, see here, Lebron's gotten hurt. You know, didn't really
get hurt this year Anthony Davis has gotten hurt, like
you kind of go through it. And the amazing thing
about Lebron is he's like the only guy who up
until like last five years, he was never hurt, never hurt.
But yeah, the let's get rid of Joel embiid thing
(02:54):
is a weird one. That one I didn't see coming.
Don't see coming. It's Wednesday, which is hump day. It's
the middle of our show. We have a one hour
podcast which starts in one hour. You can download that
in the iHeart Radio network, iHeart Podcast Network, or just
wherever we download podcast type in Doug Gottlieb Middle of
(03:17):
the day, middle of the week, middle of the show.
Let's get to the midway.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
He's not getting the middle with you. It's time for
the middle the midway.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Um, let's get after it here. Okay, so the midway.
We don't usually do these, I don't want to say
generic topics, but the type of topics which you know
some radio shows do on a daily basis where everybody
gets to jime in.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Top of the mind, top line, but there is in
a huge breaking story today, typical for Wednesdays. So here's
what I thought, guys, and I think it was actually
Jason's suggestion.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yes, no doubt, it was definitely my suggest.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You suggested specifically your favorite play by play voice of
in the NBA or all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Time or what NBA current or past, up, current or past?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Why? Why play by play only?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I just I wanted to narrow it down because we
have a play by play announcer on our crew today.
That's not the that's not the typical day, Isaac blow
and Crawn has. He's an acclaimed play by play announcer,
and I thought he would have an interesting perspective on this.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And a few people.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Did you know I've done two NFL games that play
a player?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
How many? What what you're doing? You're doing a bunch
of sports, right name?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Does a lot? Do all the sports?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
MLS, soccer, basketball, football, any anything anyone's foolish to pay
me for.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, So I want this is a It's an important
distinction you bring up because so many people who are
what do the kids say mid or suss on on
on X or on other forms of social media. When
you go like, hey, who's your favorite play by play announcer,
they'll put like a color analyst in there, or you
(05:25):
say who's your favorite analyst and then put a play
by play guide? Right, So this is just play by
play men or what.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's open for debate if you guys are feel let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
No, but you can't rank an analyst with a play
and play by play. It's it's a completely different job,
completely different job. And in radio it's all play by
play like that's it's a play by play person's job.
In TV, it's really is a team and you have
to do your work and be a good teammate. Fair
(05:59):
I loove Yes, Okay, Isaac, you having done it, your
favorite NBA guys of all the time? Playo play.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I'm gonna throw you too. We'll start with chick hern
take it back to Game four of the nineteen eighty
seven NBA Finals and Magic Johnson's junior sky hook.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The left goes Magic, He's got it.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
He didn't shoot a five seconds left, Maggie got the medal.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Just what I thought, a hook shot a.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Twelve god two second clip. The Lakers take the lead
on Magic Johnson's running sky.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Hook and my last contribution, the late, great, longtime voice
of the Chicago Bulls, Jim Durham. We take you to
the shot Michael Jordan over Craig Elo the deciding game
of the nineteen eighty nine Playoffs.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
In bound pass comes into teorgan. Here's Michael at the
Foliner shot on Eloud Dousion set day Cleavoo Cavalaires. Michael
Charton hits at the found line on the one hundred
twenty thousand, two hundred and seventy three talents hearing the
colin Feo.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So there you go, Chick Hern and Jim Durham both
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
My first gig with ESPN Radio was with Jim Durham.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This is a oh yeah, hell, it's my show. I
don't care, Okay. So here's the story, guys, and I
tell this story often, just not an air. I haven't
told them told much, which is in two thousand and three,
two thousand and two, two thousand and three, I called
games on ESPN, ESPN plus Cowboy Sports Properties did a
(07:41):
radio show in Oklahoma City. As soon as the season
was over, I went and played in France. And when
playing in France, I played against Michael pe Truce and
Boris Diaw. The year before I played against Darko when
I was in Israel. He was playing at him from
Brosick in Yugoslavia. I throught these names because I called
the gentleman who hired me at s PN was a
man named Dan Steer. Dan Seer was known as the Vision.
(08:03):
I called Vision and I said, hey, Dan, I would
love And I just got back from France because I
played for like a month and a half, two months
filled in, just kind of got out of my system,
loved it, and I was like, dude, I'd love to
do the NBA draft. He was like, I can't use you.
I have plenty of guys, but maybe radio could use you.
And I was like, but Dan, I know the international guys.
I know the high school guys. I know Lebron my
(08:23):
dad said AU coach. My brother's a college assistant. I
covered college. He's like, I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I can't use it.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Radio maybe could use it. So I get the radio
gig and I go to our meeting. And I didn't
know Jim Durham was doing it. And I didn't actually
know a ton about Jim Durham. So Kevin Lockery and
Fred Carter with the other two analysts Bulldog Okay, Bulldog
Fred Carter, who of course, was the best player in
the worst team in NBA history and was an NBA
(08:52):
coach and he had the point, the Fred Carter point
on TV remember that. And Kevin Lockery Murph as he's
known was uh. They coached Jordan at the Bulls and
he was the one who came up with the great
offensive idea. Let's give them all, Michael Jordan put everybody
on the other side of the court. That's good coaching anyway.
(09:13):
I'll never forget. Like Jim the very first instruction, Good
Evening live from Madison Square Garden, Jim Durham with longtime
NBA analysts Kevin Lockery Murph, how are you? And uh Uh?
I was with a bulldog uh and Fred Carter and
we actually had as the point sound effect and a
newcomer Doug Gotlick and I was just there to be
(09:34):
like the darko guy and the international guy. But they
had just got done doing the NBA Finals, so they
didn't know any of the guys. And once you got
past Carmelo, I became el Kipper Junior and that's how
I got my start. And then you know, uh, Bruce
Gilbert used to be our boss, used to be a
boss here at Fox Sports now he runs Westwood one.
(09:56):
And he called me and he's like, hey, can you
talk any other sport? And I said, yes, three of them.
I worked to know Clomam City football spring football recruiting,
and I got an audition at ESPN Radio and the
rest is history. So there you go, Jim. But anyway,
I call my dad the first after the first night
that we watch all the videos on all the guys
as the Merriott Marquis, and I was like, Dad, He's like,
who are you working with? And I said, Fred Carter
(10:16):
starts giving me there and I was like, Jim Durham.
He's like, you're working with Jim Durham. He's like, do
everything that man tells you to do. Rest in peace,
Jim Durham, all right, give me yours Chasing Sturt no Midway.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
All right, I've got two as well. And I'm going
to expound a little bit on chick Hern. I often
say that chick Hern and Vince Scully were the soundtrack
of my childhood. I went to sleep with their voices
during their season. And chick Hern isn't really only a
Laker thing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I don't know if he ever did it in anything
national ilill would know this, not me, but he is
like worldwide known, like nationally known, even though I think
he was specific to the Lakers. So chick Hern taught
me basketball like I would not know basketball today if
I did not listen to check Hern.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
He was.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
He was like a teacher as well as I played
by play guy. He often condescended Keith Moore. I think
it was Keith Morrison, or who's.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Keith Erickson or Keith You would even be great if
being worked with Keith Morrison though.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, and Stu Wlentz and I I for whatever reason,
was amused by that because he was so dismissive and
condescending sometimes. But check Hern suffered no fools. I've talked
to people that supported him and produced him, and he
was a pain in the ass, which which is fine
if you're brilliant like check Hern.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Now, by the way, most people in this industry that
are great day t Rico is like maybe one of
the only ones I know who's seen as like Mike
Rico is one of the kindest, nicest, most thoughtful men
I have ever come into contact with. Iin Eagle is
just hilarious and a great dude, But a lot of
(11:58):
the guys who are the best best are pretty rough
on people that aren't prepared for their job.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Absolutely, and Chick I think was maybe a top of
that list. Real time text here from Bernie Fratto. He
has two shows on the weekend, Bernie Fratto here at
Fox brus Radio. I had my dealings with chick Her.
I'll never forget. Right after Magic Johnson was drafted the
next day, he was livid. Chick wanted Sydney Moncreef thought
(12:26):
Magic lumbered gracefully.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But couldn't shoot. He later rescind it great story, Bernie,
thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'd be amazing if that was a tweet right where
chick Hern's like, man, why did we take we need
city monacup? Give her to Magic?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Was it Twitter or X back then?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
You know the whole thing about Twitter not like the
whole name change thing has not worked and nobody calls
it X well.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Elon Musk went on this weekend and said, what's a
better name? X or Twitter?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And he got flooded with Twitter just because it's the
most recognizable. If you type in Twitter dot com, it
still goes to X. Like everything about it is still tweeter.
We still say tweet, we say retweets.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, how about this. Can you recite word for word
how he would call a game over?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I can, no, no, no, I know you can. It's
in the refrigerator. Yes, the jiggling.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh wait, wait, you forgot the first part.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What's the first part?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Doors closed doors, closed, lights are out, lights are out,
Eggs are cooling, butter's getting hard.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And he added along the way, by the way, the
juggles jiggling. I think was kind of a later at.
I could be wrong, but no, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Slam Dunk was him, air Ball was him, air Ball
was him, Ali Upe I believe was him. Nothing but
net was him.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I mean he had some other ones that didn't take off, right,
but I think he also did. You can't stop him.
You can only hope to contain him. I think that
was That was chick So you must be jelly because
jam doesn't shake like that. That's chick Hern. Chick Hern.
I mean, think about we grew up with chick hearn,
(14:19):
and then the Dodgers had the goat as well. And
here's what's amazing about East Coast Guy, East Coast Guy
squares everything. East Coast is way better than West Coast.
Wasn't dick Enberg our play by play guy? When I
grew up? I got here with the Angels. I remember
dick Enberg calling.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Game Angels and Rams, and a lot of my friends
that watched the sports say, I guess Bob Miller is
the best that hockey has, but I wouldn't know the king.
I don't ever watch absolutely Iowa grad.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, thank you. Everything All things Iowa by Iowa at
least circles back. So chick Hern anybody else you want
to play in that list?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I was gonna say Kevin Harlin was my favorite current
because he such a pro and he's got the best voice,
and that video of him like telling stan Van Gandhi
to wait it out last spring was iconic.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Uh and don't don't you know let me BA, don't
choke the moment, don't talk over that sound?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What you got there?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Sam? You got any By the way, nobody's mentioned Brent Musburger.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, I Brenmusberger is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He did NBA though, yes, way back there, but that
was well before my time, so I he's one of
my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Stockton stock Stockkin Dick Love.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Brent Musburger is a college football play by play guy.
But you know, full disclosure, I didn't really start following
the NBA, probably to like the turn of the millennium here.
But I'll give to Kevin's Kevin Harlan and I love
Kevin Collabro. I love Calvin Collaboro's voice.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right, Allen is getting signals from above.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He's great. So yeah, those are little Susie Waldman in it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Sorry, I don't do a get Kevin Collaboro, but we
used to win. I used to do a nighttime show.
We play Kevin Collaboro highlights back when he's the SuperSonics
guy forever. He's amazing and awesome dude as well, I
feel like we're missing somebody. Yes, you are missing somebody
and somebody else as well. You guys didn't like Costas, No, no,
(16:19):
we just have our own. This is for you, I mean,
but you didn't like, like I'm a full disclosure. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So I don't remember Costas as a basketball guy. I
know he did the ABA stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
He did three seasons as the number one voice on.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
NBC was I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, I Marv had the Marv had the uh yes
fighting a woman, right, he was nibbled on a woman
and so he people forget like you can if you
come back from that now. I don't know if Marv
could come back from that now, but then he came
back from it. But during the OJ chase, I believe
that's when Costas was calling the finals. No, who's calling
(16:55):
the finals that day?
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Which a ways in studio it was Marv A. Costas
during the OJ chase was in the studio on site
at the Garden that night. But Costas to the NBA
finals nineteen ninety eight through two thousand. So ninety eight
was the Jordan last shot against the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, good, Isaac Lohancron historian Isaac Lowan cro can give
him a shot out.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think he's got in this screen.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Brian Russell by the way, Cleveland High School, Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Then to Long Beach State.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I got another.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I do love Dan Schulman.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I love Dan Shulman.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He does not do NBA. Oh I'm sorry, he does
college basketball?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yes, yeah, loved amazing guy does the Blue Jays games.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Talent.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We've actually I've brought up Dan Shulman, for I have
a couple of criteria for like, if you're just a
good play by play, let things breathe, don't be annoying,
and be at least be interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So the guys that I mentioned are really good.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's that's that's in depth, because depth, Sam Well.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean a lot of times guys don't let things breathe.
They will be annoying and uh, they'll just say generic
cliches and then I'm like, eah, I'm tuned out.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The best don't do that. Iron Eagle, by the way,
is do not do that. I've worked with Ian.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Ian's great.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
He's amazing, and Iron is, without cursing, maybe the funniest
person I know. I mean, he's amazing. I don't know.
I mean just and he was great last night.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And that's a talent I've worked. I mean, a part
of it is great.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Friend of mine. But he called a great game last night.
I think Spiro is really good. You know, Spiro has
been the voice of the Nicks, the voice of the
Lakers as well, and he's amazing covering the NBA. I
like Harlan.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
One of the issues I think sometimes with play by
play guys is you know, they hang on a little
bit too long, and Dick Stockton a little bit late
in the was a little bit too long. So and
even Brent when Brent was calling the Raider games at
the end like it was not near It was not
prime Brent Musburger.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Prime.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Brett Musburger was big time. Now games are also called
differently now than they work. Yeah, but I I think
we've kind of circled in on the best. I mean,
Chick was incredible, incredible, but different than the national guys.
And when basketball was at its peak, it was Brent,
(19:05):
Dick Stockton. When I forget when my blanking had a
couple years aw at Marv and then Costas. Costas was
really good, really really really really really good and work
with some bad color guy color analysts. I'm not gonna
mention names because I won't bring up Magic Johnson at all.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
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Speaker 2 (20:03):
When Tom slips away leaves you another mister, but Gloris.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Dorri the.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Olden Bay Well now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Old Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You
know that song, It means we're talking NBA with an
old head. Oh, I Loo's got the uh the phone
light out. In the Week of the Young Girl, z
O Day clips back even at two a piece, Bucks
(20:37):
go No Superstars into a blowout win. Nick's gag as
Tyree s Maaxey was amazing, and uh what next for
the Lakers. Let's welcome in. He's an old head. He's
our Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst. He's Opie Olden. Poulnies
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Can we can we start with the Lakers?
(21:00):
We start with the Lakers. If you're if you're in charge,
tell me what you do with this team.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Right now? As constructed. I gotta go get some lens.
I need some wings, you know. I like Vanderbilt and
all that with his lens, but I can't rely on me.
I mean, the last couple years he's been hurt. I
gotta get somebody that's and can shoot. I need shooters,
you know, I mean, Ad this is probably the most
games he's played in ten thousand years, and so it
(21:30):
was just great to see that. And Lebron is still serviceable.
I mean, he's not the same Lebron. Let's get that straight,
you know. But that's twenty one years in so you
have to kind of, like, you know, play with that
a little bit. Sure, But at the same time, I
do believe that my team is better served without Lebron
(21:50):
because I when you watch the Lakers play when he's out,
it's a different team. It's not in day and I
think that has to be addressed. You know, whether it's
a seance, some therapy, I don't know what it is,
but that has to be addressed. How you guys played
one way when he's there, you play a totally different
way when he's not.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
When you say it has to be addressed, how do
you address it? I mean, do you do you trade him?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
I don't know if I'm going to trade him. I
just like I said, maybe I just go to the guys. Hey, okay,
I need you guys to play like this when Lebron
is in the in the lineup, Okay, the way you
guys say when he's out, relaxed, confident, you know, stop
deferring so much to him. He is thirty nine years old.
You don't have to defer to him anymore. He's legendary.
(22:44):
I get it, you guys. I know a bunch of
the players they grew up watching him, so they are
in awe. But you have to stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a hard one. It is
clearly a difficult one for so many of these guys
to do because he's He's Lebron James and but yes,
the ball stops when it gets to Lebron. Okay, let's
let's get to some of those series. Clippers tonight, Kawhi
still out. They've been better with Kawhi out than they
(23:14):
have Kawhi in. But you know it all some of
it depends upon the Mavericks, not as much the Clippers.
What do you think of the Clippers Mavericks series?
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Well, I was surprised by the last game only because
that they held on to win. That was the surprise.
I expected that, you know, the Mavericks to come back
from thirty one down, but I thought the Clippers were
going to win. So the shock for me was the
fact that they held on and won. But they're not
going to shoot like that every night. I mean, Harden
(23:47):
and Paul George and Norman Power. These guys are just
knocking down shot after shot. The he shot was the
Paul George shot in the corner with a man traped
all over him, and that went in. Once he hit,
that game was over in my opinion. But again, they're
not going to play that well every night, you know,
I thought, Dallas, you know, the problem with them right
now is the fact that number one Luca is a
(24:08):
low hobbled But you know, it's just the fact that
you know, they haven't played some really good defense. But
it's you know, that game kind of like everything they
did the prior games got basically thrown away with that.
I don't know what you want to call it. That's showing,
you know, to be down thirty one points at home,
(24:29):
that's some insane stuff to me. And it took everything
out of them, you know, just fighting to get back
to you know, to being up one, and so to me,
they got to find a balance somewhere within their their
whole style of playing basketball. But I do see this
this series going seven, you know, and the Kawhi thing.
I mean, they should be used to this, but now, Doug,
(24:54):
she should be used to this. Don't expect Kawhi anymore.
The knee is shot, you know, and so he's gonna
have the sub sis. He thinking about, you know, maybe
possibly possibility of retiring because you know, it's like it'll
miss now with him.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Really is sad because he's such such a talented player,
but they haven't been able to figure it out and
get it right. He's he's like that, He's like, he's there,
Mike Trout, That's what he is, you know, he's he's there,
He's there, Mike Trout. Let me, uh, let's go to
Sixers Knicks last night. Uh Brunson amazing, tyres Maxey even
more amazing. But there's a litany of the in the
(25:32):
succession of things that went wrong for the Knicks, right
for the Sixers, right up, six twenty eight seconds to go,
and Tyrese Maxey's shot faked, he didn't travel under the
shot fake, but he jumps in, gets the foul and
one makes a free throw, so six to four. Then
Josh Hart misses badly the front end of of a
of a two shot foul, makes a second one, and
(25:52):
it it sounded like if you listen to the broadcast
that Tibbs told. Tibbs told uh, the guard garden, the
ball to foul, doesn't foul, Duce McBride and they come
and I mean it wasn't a walking shot, but it
was a it was a rhythm jump shot from the
logo that Tyrese Maxey knocks down. Where do you, as
(26:15):
a guy who's been in those situations, where do you
lay lay the most blame?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Well, the blame really, I don't even think there's blame
outside of the foul by Mitchell Robinson. I don't think
they was blamed to go around. It's just Matsy willed
his team to win. That was it, you know. The
four point play was a catalyst. But again that's the
only blame that I see. Everything else is it is
(26:42):
what it is. But I'm not foulowing somebody when I'm up.
No one's ever blocked really a three point shot, and
especially with the new rules now, you're not gonna block
it because for you to block the shot, you have
to get in his face, you know. And so to me,
I don't know why guys are still doing this crap
of plunging out and doing all this stuff. These guys
(27:03):
are crafty now, and so to me, just let him
if he makes it. He makes It's always been a
fifty fifty proposition, So let him shoot him. So the
blame goes to Mitchell Robinson's following him, but the one
with MAXI pulled no oney. Max has never shown himself
to be that kind of shooter. And so to me
it was like, hey, he.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Took that shot here, okay, so let me let me
hit you something. You tell me you're totally allowed to
opie because you've done this for so long to disagree.
I respect you that much, Okay, I think who's screwed up? Honestly,
it's tips. And let me tell you why. When you're
up six, right, you're up six twenty eight seconds ago.
The only way you lose, only way you lose is
(27:42):
if you give up threes, let alone foul on threes.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Most definitely okay, So.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Why play Mitchell Robinson? Why play a traditional shot blocking
big play switch off? If they get by and they
get to the bucket and they post you up and score, fine, great,
you still have to get two possessions. We get foul,
we go down, and we knocked him prietos. It's said
at least a two, if not a three possession game
again and then okay, and then when Josh Hart misses
(28:10):
the first free throw, you gotta be willing to sub
in for the shooter if he makes the second, or
sub in for Mitchell Robinson again, same thing. You had
to know they had to have a three. And while
Tyrese Maxey doesn't traditionally hit Logo threes, the fact is
you hadn't know he's gonna shoot, and he was up
closer in the drop, but that should be you should
(28:30):
be right there on the ball screen, an easy switch.
Make him make it two, make it make it too.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
So I totally agree. I totally agree what you just said.
And hence when I said Mitchell Robinson's to book, I
mean Mitchell Robinson didn't sub himself in. Yes, no, Tims
put him in the game, you know. And this is again,
this is all coaching, you know, or telling the guy,
do not foul the three point shooter. If he goes
(28:57):
by you, fine, we'll live with a two. I mean
it used to be the mentality, you know. I'm just
gonna push out on him, make him go buy me
if I want him to drive. I'm not challenging. I
just want to stay at there. Just get in that
in that space to where he goes by me. I
want him, please beat me. And that's not what happened.
(29:19):
He jumped for god.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Knows what.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You can jump, just jump straight up in the air,
but or just be big. Make him make a shot
over the top of seven foot long seven foot stand
there and be seven feet It seems so easy from
our chair. It really, it really does.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
But it is easy, dougu they make it hard.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I do, I do, in fact get it. Any cause
for concern with the Pacers where the Bucks came out
with completely different energy and blew him out last night
without their.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Two stars, oh, I mean none. I mean the Paces
they're gonna win at home. The fear or the Anks
is going to be if they lose the game six
at home. Now we got a problem, you know. But
at the same time, I mean, I thought, you know,
Milwaukee's on life support, so they had to come out
(30:12):
and play that way again. Malie Beasley knockdown shots. Yes,
Chris Middleton did a night shot carry them.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Pap was good last night. That the best playing.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
I mean, he's an annoyance, but he was really a
good annoyance for Milwaukee again. Is Pat Bellwie gonna play
like that in the next game. You know, that's another one.
It'll miss.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
How how much of a buyer are you into Oklahoma City?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
I would say I'm about I'm seventy. I like them.
I like the youth, I like the the swag that
they play with, you know, diagnosis coach of the air.
I think the catalyst, of course, is Shay because of
the fact that you can't rushed him. That's the problem
(31:02):
for every other team. You're not gonna speed up shake
Gilgis and so to me, that's gonna be the key
for them. As long as he's in control, the rest
of the teams in control. And so to me, the
Williams is the jail, the two jail and Williams is
I mean teams. That's what I'm saying. Teams pass up
on players and then when they get in the right situation,
(31:23):
they look like superstars, and it's absurd to me. I'm like,
wait a minute, somebody else could have had this guy.
But I like them a lot. You know, I'm not
saying they're gonna win the championship, but they're gonna be
a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, what about the Wolves. I mean, obviously you know
they got a guy who who Anthony Ewards is something.
How do you think they match up with the Nuggets?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
They match up really well, and they're going to post
the biggest problem to that them the Nuggets repeating. So
to me, whoever comes out of that series is the
Western Conference champion. That's how I'm looking at I'm called it.
Whoever comes up that series as the West coult. I
don't know who's gonna god Anthony Edwards, but they need
(32:08):
to figure that one out, no question. Joker is gonna
have his handful, sure, because the key for Minnesota is
the fact that they not only have Rudy gober defensive players,
but they have cal Anthony who can match up size wise.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes, yes, they they were.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
They were.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
They were absolutely ahead of it, going back to last
year when people said why did you go get Gobert?
Because the league has changed and that that team has
six nine, six ten seven foot across the front line.
And if you don't match up with it, you know
you're gonna get You're gonna get your brains beat.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
In by him.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And I do think Minnesota matches up with it.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I hope you're the best.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
You know what's gonna happen. Dad, They're gonna play it.
They're gonna play Jokics on top more. They're gonna pull
Rudy Gober out.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, you play you pull them out. I mean again,
Like my thing is like if you're Jokics. If Jokic
makes five threes, hey tip your cap. He doesn't usually
make he makes one or two, and then it's all
the crafty passing or whatever. They beat you a lot
of different ways, but it gives them a chance by
having that size.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. You guys know the
old foul up three thing?
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Foul up three? Do you know why you foul up three?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Two free throws?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay? Oh if you're up three points, okay, Elijah can
make this into it. Let me just give you the
how many things have to go right or how many
things have to go wrong, depending on what side you're in. Right,
if you're the the Philadelphia seventy six ers and you're
(33:49):
down three points last night with how many seconds was
it l was like ten seconds ago or something like
that when when he got the bomb bounce. Okay, if
you're the Philadelphia seventy six ers and you're down three,
in order to tie or win the game, you have
to and and you're just shooting threes. All you gotta
do is shoot a three, which is all Maxi did.
He got to open, he drove up to court, and
his left hand switch to his right hand, came up
(34:10):
five ball screen logo three bang. One thing had to
go right.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You want to wait till usually under seven or under
six seconds, so you limit the number of possessions that
the other team would get. But then if you foul.
Here's all the things that have to go right for
the seventy six ers to force overtime or maybe even
win the game. You do bring losing into the equation potentially. Okay,
(34:36):
Maxi would have to make the first free throw that
is not one hundred percent make first of all, a
lot of times guys that are thinking about missing that
second free throw miss the first one. So you got
to make the first free throw. He's like an eighty
percent free throw shooter, so again, not one hundred percent,
is eighty percent. He makes the first one, then you
have to intentionally miss the second one unintentionally missing, then
(34:59):
you have to you get the rebound or tap the
ball out. Then the ball has to be tapped out
to a teammate who has to get the ball. Then
they have to make a shot, and they have to
make it three, and they made the first free throw.
It all those things go right, you have the lead.
If they make a two, you tie the game. So
I'm at five or six or even seven things that
have to go right, as opposed to if you don't foul,
(35:21):
only one thing has to go right scent overtime. And
I don't blame TIBs for because he was saying to
foul to Douce McBride, but I do blame TIBs for
the lineup that he had in there at the end
of the game. Let's get to Isaac Glow and Crow
with the press.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
The press, all right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
The Philadelphia seventy six Ers and fanatics are teaming up
to purchase and distribute over two thousand tickets of Ward
Tomorrow's Game six in Philadelphia. The tickets will be distributed
free to quote first responders, healthcare professional Yeah, Community GREW,
and other local Philadelphia based organizations to harness the intensity
(36:05):
and excitement for tomorrow's crucial showdown with the New York Knicks.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Unquote.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The gesture is also obviously seen as a ploy to
keep Nicks fans out.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yes, yes, we don't want those obnoxious New Yorkers. We
want more equally and incredibly obnoxious Philadelphians in our building.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Staying in basketball. As people remember, a couple of weeks ago,
Johntay Porter, the older brother of Denver's Michael Porter Junior,
was banned from the NBA for gambling. Days after that,
another older brother, Coban Porter, was sentenced to six years
in prison for dy vehicular homicide. Well, today it was
(36:48):
revealed that over the weekend, Porter's younger brother, Javon Porter,
was arrested this past Friday night in Missouri on suspicion
of d wy Porter average sixteen points for Pepperdine last
season before transferring to Loyal La Marymount.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, the Porters are a very religious family. I
know the dad, Michael Porter. He's been a college coach
women's side and men's side. And the only thing I
could say is it's really sad, and I don't know
if homeschooling your kids in effort to shelter them ends
up benefiting them long time. It's the only thing I
can think of. But what a just a tough week
for a family.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
So your older brother gets sentenced to six years in prison. Yeah,
and you go out and get a dui? Like what
if that doesn't work as a determine?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
What what would?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm not really sure. I just I don't get it.
I don't get anybody who gets a dui nowadays, Like
it's not that hard to press the button on your phone.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Finally, in the aftermath of Denver elimiting the Lakers from
the playoffs the other night, the Honorable Mayor of Los Angeles,
Karen Bass, tweeted and again, I quote, proud of our
team at Lakers. Tough, but at least we won the
D season tournament unquote. After getting roasted for that tweet,
(38:07):
the tweet was deleted and replaced by you left it
all on the floor, Thank you at Lakers.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Why can't.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Why can't they just be a sarcastic tweet? It could
be read as out of touch or sarcastic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
She's definitely out of touch. She's definitely out of touch.
But it comes. If it was sarcastic, it'd be really good. Yeah,
it'd be great, really good. But she meant it all time, genuinely.
Magic Johnson thought that was a bad tweet, and that's.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
The press Bay get out there and pressed.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
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