October 16, 2024 • 38 mins
On today's edition of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss the worst contracts in the history of sports. Doug weighs in on the NCAA addressing the 12-man penalty that helped Oregon defeat Ohio State. NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah joins for his weekly hit to discuss the Jets' trade, the Steelers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a Wednesday version of "The Press".
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But first, every Wednesday is the middle of the week.
We have a one hour podcast which we drop at
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this would be middle of the show and we're in
the middle of the day. So let's get to the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's not getting the middle It's time for.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The midway midway discussion. Is is uh worst contract in sports?
And I bring it up because I think the the
narrative most people will give you is that, uh, it's
got to be Deshaun Watson because in addition to being
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accused of sexual assault by forty people forty women, he
got the first fully guaranteed five year contract in the
history of the NFL. And he's terrible. It's not terrible,
He's just not good. He's not good enough. And they
actually made the playoffs last year with his backup who
formerly was a very good quarterback in Joe black Ohwa's
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play well this year. But again, like you have the
biggest contract in the is your sports, the history of
the sport at the time, fully guaranteed, and they're better
without you. That's a yikes. So let's go round the
room a little bit here, Ilo, what's your worst contract ever?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It is Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But on the premise that we're talking about something else,
I'm gonna go Bobby Bonia with the Mets back in
the day. The gift that keeps on giving every year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, so why is it a beat. Why is his
why is his contract still bad?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It's not so much the on field consequences, it's just
the ridiculousness of it all to have a contract. Yeah,
not not from not from Bobby's, but it's just it's
just comic. It's just so comical that it's gotten to
the point that there's literally a holiday after it. And
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remember I'm on record as saying it's still the Deshaun
Watson by far. But if I had to pick something else,
I would go with that.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Why would the agent sign up for that? Or was
that Bonia's what's the story behind that? Because but isn't
a good deal. It's a great deal for Bonia. I'm
just saying it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
A terrible deal for the Mets either to put money
and they put a lot less money in estro with
the guarantee that it'll be worth you know, a million
dollars per year once they get there. It's not close
to being a bad you know, he wasn't he wasn't
peaked Bnia with the Mets. But he wasn't terrible. You know,
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it wasn't terrible. Played three full seasons in another season,
you know, hit nineteen thirty four twenty and eighteen home
runs in half a season before he was traded. So
I just don't the fact that he's still getting paid.
That's just deferred money. He's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
It's like the old ard with the watery. You take
all the money now, less money now or over in
your lifetime. And I always thought the economists or people
that know money are like, you take the less money
now and then put it in some kind of a
savings saying that the interest alone will pay you more
than the year.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
To year point.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
You know what, I'm going to change my mind if
I can't Albert Poolholtz Angels.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Hold on a second, Hold on a second. We're getting
out of wine here. I claim poolholes for myself. Oh
very well, So I'm going to clean that up and edit.
We're just reminded of Bobby Bonia day every year. So
I think that's why we wish always think about it.
And yeah, yeah, you could put that money away and
listen if you if you're a you have trouble with
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your spending habits, then getting a million or so every
year is probably good for you. I don't know what
these spending habits are, but that was my theory with
the OTTONI deal number. The theory that I started is
that all the deferred money in year ten was his
agent's way of saying, that gives you nine years to
clean up your gambling habit, and then we'll give you
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all the money at the end. If we give it
to you now, you're gonna gamble it away.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So so you're going pooh holes.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Albert Poohols, at the age of thirty two, was lucky
enough to get a ten year contract from the Angels
for two hundred and forty million dollars. The crazy thing
about that number is I think he signed that contract
in like twenty ten. That sounds like a lot of
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money today, Like if somebody signed a ten year two
forty you're like, wow, that's great. Good for you. I
want to say Ronald Acuna signed that deal and pooh
Hooles never never lived up to that contract and he
started to slow down much slower than everyone thought. Everyone remember,
Albert Poolhols supposedly allegedly lied on his Bircher too, so
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he was always older than we thought, so that he
was probably actually thirty six when he signed that deal.
The Angels are a mess, because I really I'm going
to save them any kind of grief here by not
mentioning the Josh Hamilton deal and by not mentioning the
Anthony Rendon deal. So I'll just I'll save them the.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Grief, Big Apple, Sam.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
This doesn't approach to Sean Watson level, but I'll go
to the college ranks between a coach and a university.
Let's go back to twenty seventeen when Texas A and
M hired Jimbo Fisher and he signed a ten year,
seventy five million dollar contract. And what was special about
that contract. The school promised him every penny outlined in
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the contract even if he was fired. Okay, and even worse,
if Jimbo Fisher decided to leave for another gig, he
would owe the school zero dollars. And there was no
language in the contract offset those terms so that Fisher
would get the entire worth of his deal even if
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he were to take another job. I'm quoting a CBS
Sports article here, but here we go. Here's here it
gets even worse. LSU sniffed around Texas A and M
and twenty twenty one, after Texas A and M was
coming off of a good COVID year I guess, and
they signed him to another deal restarting the clock, ten year,
ninety five million dollars, and after he was fired going
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forty five and twenty five, he was paid seventy million
dollars not to coach. So that's a pretty bad at
college football contract.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Stunned. Stunned by those numbers, my.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Jart do it? Do you guys remember the Eddie Curry
contract with the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, okay, do you remember, Sam? Are you too young
to remember?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Too young?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Too young for that?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So Eddie Curry signed a six year, sixty million
dollars deal with the Knicks. Now does that sound like
huge money? Probably no in this day and age, But
at the time it was top of the market. Right now,
what's important to understand is when they took Eddie Curry,
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they took Eddie Curry. He had a heart problem. And
the thing about guaranteed contracts are they have to be
insured otherwise the team has to pay out of pocket,
right like none of them. When a guy gets hurt.
If Tua, for example, gets hurt, has to retire, can't play,
the Dolphins aren't paying the rest of that contract. The
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insurance facings a matter of fact, if you remember back,
that's how Magic Johnson found out he had HIV. Before
every season, players had to take, you know, a blood
test for the insurance those And I've often said, if
anybody wants to be in the Hall of Fame, all
those blood tests and the fighting of them still exist in baseball.
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Just allow us to see your blood test. We can
see whether or not you were cycling on steroids in
the offseason. Anyway, Eddie Curry being signed to a sixty
million dollar contract, one that he never came close to
living up to. And oh yeah, by the way, Isaiah
Thomas signing him to it when he had a heart problem,
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So it was an uninsurable contract. I believe it's the
worst contract of all time. Look the pool host thing,
it was, it was bad, it was, it was absolutely bad.
But they knew poolholes would age. No one could have
no one could have known they'd have the constant foot
problem or whatever. You knew he was going to age,
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and that's what she did to kind of get him.
Like I, it's a lot of money, but I do
get it. On the sun level. You knew Eddie Curry
didn't have a good work ethic. You knew Eddie Curry
because remember this is an Isaiah Thomas deal. He had
a heart problem. You wouldn't be able and you wouldn't
have to pay that much because he had the heart problem.
You could have gotten him for pennies because there's uninsured contract.
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You didn't. That's the worst contract I could think. No,
I made what Jase do I'm sure you have more though.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Well, my Eddie Curry story, I need to tell it this.
I'm gonna take everyone behind behind the what is it?
Behind the curtain?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Curtain?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I booked Eddie Curry on the Jim Rome Show. It
was right around that time that he signed the contract,
or maybe in this maybe in his rookie year. I
signed Eddie Curry. And that was back in the day
when you know, all radio shows were just radio shows
and you just had phone interviews. That's what That's what
it was. So so I get a call from the
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agent a couple of minutes before the interview. It was
like he's like, hey, Eddie's ready to go. Where where
do you guys need him? And I'm like, what do
you mean just just hand them a phone? No, he's
he got his braid's done, Like he just spent like
eight thousand dollars on a haircut, like he got whatever
whatever you do to get braids done, And I'm like,
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oh no, this is a phone interview and the agent
cussed me out.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Wait he thought he had to be he had his
braids down because he thought he was he be on TV. Yes,
Eddie Curry. By the way, Court Court records. One way
he blew his money was he was spending over a
thousand dollars a month on cable.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I thought I was paying a lot for internet?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
How do you pay?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
How do you how does it even happen?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
He did?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He I'm guessing, hey, that's a you know what.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
In hindsight though, with that story that Jay Stu just told,
that's a better deal compared to his haircut deal.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I don't know how much you get you have to
pay for those, I have no idea, But.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
He was.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Not she would you like eight months worth of cable
or to get your hair done?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
We I think Russell Wilson's getting ignored in this conversation.
Russell Wilson I think is playing for a league minimum
right now. But you have to take into consideration that
the Broncos gave him a five year deal for one
hundred and twenty five on a huss hold on a
second back up five year deal for two hundred and
forty five million dollars one hundred and sixty five million guaranteed,
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and he played exactly two years of that deal.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Great point not to mention the bounty that the Seahawks
got to acquire.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Him in the first place.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, assets, assets going the other way, and they saved
on having to pay a max deal to a quarterback. Yeah,
the Russell Wilson contract has to be up there. Eddie
Curry's up there, but Russell Wilson's got to be autle
there with DeShawn Right. Any differences that Russell Wilson wasn't
an awful human being to women.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Correct, that's a that's a pretty big distinction. He He's
performed worse than I think than Nashawn in many ways,
especially the first year, but it's a pretty big distinction.
I Look, there's been a lot of bad quarterback contracts
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to just have. It's not that you know, Tremarcus Russell
and Sam Bradford, you know, and Sam Bradford was a
good quarterback. He's always hurt and he just you know,
but that he remember he was the last guy to
get the big signing bonus as a rookie, got the
fifty million dollars up front. There's been plenty of guys
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that are bad quarterbacks. Deshawn's differences. It was five years guaranteed,
fully guaranteed, and he had the sexual assault stuff and
he's just he's just been an energy drain for the
Cleveland Browns. That said, like, I think knowing a guy
has a heart problem, an insurance company not picking it
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up and still going through with the contract. I oh, yeah.
By the way, he wasn't able to fulfill the contract,
where Deshaun is not good enough, but it looks like
he'll still fill the contract. I think it might make work.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So Earlier
this week, we talked about the twelfth man penalty that
Oregon committed against Ohio State what looked like a really
smart loophole within the rules, which sapped time off the clock,
but only cost the Ducks five yards. Here's Dan Lanning
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earlier this week, asked about his press conference.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Much of the commentary world has decided and struck you
as a genius stand for the twelve man penalty and
declared that it was intentional. Was it indeed intentional to
induce to throw one on one against your bar in
that spot?
Speaker 9 (15:15):
He wasn't one on one. We actually had a safety
on top, so there was so it's called dog it's
when you played. But he wasn't an extremely tight coverage,
but he was in dog coverage where he had safety
on top of him. And yeah, there was a time
out before that. We spent in an order amount of
time on situations. There are some situations that don't show
up very often in college football, but this is one
that obviously was something that we have worked on, so
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you could see the result.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, that was a great non answer. Great non answer, right,
couldn't be a better non answer. Here's Landing earlier today
on with Dan Patrick. Was it on purpose?
Speaker 10 (15:54):
I probably spent too much time on this on Monday,
and I know what answers we're looking for here, but
I got my dancing shoes on this morning dance. I'm
not going to get into great depth.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
On wait wait, wait, why why I thought it? I
thought it was brilliant coaching.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I mean, I think you I've paid.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Attention to a lot of situations like that. I always
think about the forty nine Ers Raven Super Bowl, right,
and the holding penalty at the end of the game
to run the clock out. I think as defensive coaches,
you're always trying to find ways to take advantage of
the rules that exist.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And we have an unbelievable staff.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
We spent a lot of time on a lot of
different situations, and when things are in place, you want
to try to be able to take advantage of them.
But I've asked my staff, I've asked our players. Hey,
Ohio State game, that was awesome. We're on a short week.
We got Purdue this week. Let's move on to Purdue.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Do you remember the super Bowl that was that I
referenced earlier this week Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Was it that one that he just referenced?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yep, boom, yep. That's amazing. And if you go back
at the time I was on air, that was the
New Orleans Super Bowls. Was CBS, right, that was the
Super Bowl where the lights went out. But the point
was that yet at the end of the game, the
Ravens they all held, so they could so they could
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run out the clock. They all held, and you know,
it's one penalty, but that way they couldn't touch, you know,
they couldn't touch the quarterback, which is Joe Flacco. And
it was absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant as long as you
don't you know, and if you hold the end zone,
it's two points. There were up three points. So it's
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just a loophole. Well, the NCAA today announced that they're
going to close up that loophole. And though the keeping
the time on the clock or putting the time back
on the clop clock is now part of the penalty,
so that eliminates that. But it is a loophole and
others do exist. And I'm going to credit somebody, Frankfurcilla,
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who's a longtime head coach, obviously head coached in New Mexico,
Manhattan and Saint John's. If you follow him on social media,
you know every year he tells college coaches have a
rules expert on your team, somebody who goes through all
of the rules because there are loopholes within the rules,
loopholes within the rules. Anyway, I love it. I suggested
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the clock reset earlier this week, and because I think
that's fair, equitable and eliminates that thing. Well, last Daniel
Jeremiah now he joins this move the sticks, as is
the podcast DJ. It feels pretty obvious the organ thing
was on purpose. Right. You remember the Ravens Niners Soup Bowl,
don't you?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah? I was there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
If you could, could you describe the play with the Ravens.
It was like the last play of the game right
where they everybody held. You can only call it one penalty,
but it then ran time off the clock.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah. No, they just literally just tackled everybody and just
knowing that you're fine with the yards, you're just not
going to give up the touchdown. And teams will do
that inside of ten seconds or even inside five seconds,
because then you don't leave them with an option, you
know what I mean, Like, Okay, well, it's either you
go for it and win the game or you lose.
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There's no go for it and then also have a
fallback with the field goal opportunity like that happens a
lot in games. Where you'll see those options. It was
something that I brought up on a broadcast when the
Chargers and Raiders were playing that final winning in game
with different strategies like this, where the Chargers didn't use
their time out if you remember, and that allowed the
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Raiders to kick an as as the game expires field
goal with no punishment, because if they don't get it,
the game's over. It's not you're going to give the
ball back to the Chargers. There's all these little edges
in these little ways around rules and timeouts and tackling
guys or putting an extra defender on the field. Rabel
did it. Did something similarly with the Titans. Remember when
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they went into New England and that was a big
story because he kind of outsmarted Bill Belichick. But I
feel like one or two of these things pop up
a year.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, let's get to the NFL Steelers trying to figure
out if they play Russell Wilson. What would you do
if you were Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, I have respect for Tomlin because he knows this
is not going to be popular, you know, amongst the
fan base, and he's just he's doing and sticking by
what he believes in, which is you can't preach process
over results and then just say, well, we're going to
stick with justin fields because we're winning. You know, like, well,
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I don't know if that's good enough to beat the
teams we have to beat to go where we want
to go, and they want to get a look at
at Russell Wilson. So that's what he's kind of always
been about. He doesn't really care about outside nois or
outside opinions and his you know, the way he looks
at this offense, he knows they're going to need more
than what they've gotten to get where they want to go.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Tull Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What do
you think about the DeVante Adams trade. Let's start from
the Jets perspective.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean not a surprise. I mean they're they're so
pot committed with with Rogers right now that he's going
to get whatever he wants and this was kind of
the next item on his list. What are you going
to tell him? No, Like you're you're already that far
down the road. I do think he'll do well there,
just from the standpoint of he's going to be on
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the same page as a quarterback. I didn't necessarily agree
with throwing Mike Williams under the bus like that. You know,
obviously anybody that watched it and and knows football could
know that he was you know, he wasn't at the
right landmark on that throw. But to air him out
publicly like that, I thought was kind of bush league.
But he is going to be on the same page
with Devonte Adams as he's been on the same page
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with with Alan Lazard. You're just committed to doing your
You're committed to the Aaron Rodgers wait this year that
this so let me so.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Help me sell me out with that. Okay, So Mike
Waves wasn't you know, the red line, which is you know,
really outer third we call it the alley in basketball, right,
he wasn't now in the alley, and so I still
think by the way the lizard was open, that's where
the ball should have gone. But I mean because the
safety was sucked in, he had his hand up because
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he was open. But regardless, have you ever heard that,
Like all he had to say was it was a
miscommunication and instead he like he threw him right under
the bus. I guess I guess the question is did
he do it to make sure they went and got
Devonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I'm sure that was probably pretty far into the works,
but that might have been the finishing touch there, especially
because the game before he had thrown the mic and
got picked off on a back shoulder throw where they
weren't on the same page to end that game over
in London. But I just I've never I can't recall
at least a quarter back doing that to a receiver
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in the post game. And I think Aaron's defense is
this place needs more accountability. Well, there's a lot of
ways to have accountability. I don't know it's necessarily your
job to air out your teammates who are, by all
accounts not It's not an effort thing, right, That's not
somebody who's not trying. That's someone who had had a
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you know, just kind of busted in an assignment mentally,
who has been in this organization. You know, this is
his first year there in a new system. All that stuff.
I just had never heard that. I've I've heard quarterbacks
go up there and and take blame for something that
anybody who knows football knows it was one hundred percent
not their fault. But they'll they'll wear it publicly and
then and then the meeting room they'll they'll go one
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on one or even in front of the offense and
be like, hey, we have got to be on our
p's and q's here, You've got to be on your landmarks.
This can't happen again. But that happens behind closed doors,
not in public.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's like Sean McVay like every time they lose, as like,
that's on me, that's on the coaching staff, knowing that
when they watch film he lights Dow's up right, Like, yeah,
I don't, but I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like that the whole the whole defense is well, hey,
I'm honest, you know, that's that's being.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Awest, except for the fact that he wasn't honest about
clearly knowing and having playing a part in Robert Salah
getting fired. Right, Oh, you don't want to be honest
about that.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, no, that's a that's all a fair point there.
But the one thing I guess, from a positive standpoint
with the Jets, I would say is that I don't
know how well Allen Wizard's skill set translates to any
of the thirty one other teams. And because him and
Aaron are on the same page he's he's actually been
pretty productive. And I would say DeVante, even having lost
a step and not what he was three years ago,
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is still a heck of a lot more talented than
now a wizard. So it probably will It probably will work.
But everybody's going to spend this whole week talking about,
you know, Rogers and DeVante Adams. I'd be a little
bit more worried about Tyrone Smith versus t J.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Watt. Okay, what about uh, what about the Amari Cooper trade?
What does that do for Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I think if you get a motivated Amari Cooper and
a little change of scenery there, I still think he
has ability, and I don't think he's a number one
by any stretch, but it does give him a little more,
a little more juice to win on third downs. That
was an area of the production that I was, you know,
curious to see without Stefan Diggs. You know what that
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would look like. They've mixed it up, They've they've pushed
the ball around a different guy. Khalil Shakers had his moments.
Dal Kincaid's had his moments, but I think this just
gives him another option there for that situation. I don't
think he's what he was at his peak, but I
do think he's, you know, now one of their three
best options in the past game.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Stut Gottleab show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah. All Right, DJ, what's up with
the Cowboys? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Man? That was an awful just an awful defensive performance.
Offensive line wise was not good. You know, Dak's fallen
off throws, missing throws. It was a pretty thorough, you know,
just debacle. I don't think that this falls into the
the feet of one person. I think that was a
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pretty pretty complete, absolute mess of a game that you
saw the other day. So they've got a lot of
things to get straightened out. Their record puts them still
in the middle of things. But that was about as
bad a tape as I've watched.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Arizona Cardinal's tape wasn't very good either. I was just
I don't know what happened there, but they were bad.
They were with the exception of like ten minutes in
the middle of the game. It was never it was
never really a contest.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, they're they're a weird team, man, because there's games
where they play so hard, and I'm like, man, the
sum is greater than the parts. And Kyler can you
know he got some magic to him some games and
they're capable of beating anybody, and then they just come
out and just lay some of these eggs. And yeah, look,
Marvin Harrison Junior I heard early in that ball game.
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But they just zero rhythm, zero energy. It's just they're
they're they're kind of an odd team.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Very much not a team. And they had they only
random once in the first half and it was on
a third down, third and one or something on his
own read and it wasn't wasn't good. He made the
wrong read. I was. I thought I was going to
be really impressed when I went to the game, and
I was really not impressed. I think that's the only
way to so the only way to only way to.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
To to truly, Doug, I'll report back see if they
get me better on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
What about the Chargers, I mean, like, look, I understand
Denver is not very good, but that was impressive. I mean,
we've we've seen them go in there against terrible Denver
teams and struggle. What what what's the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Take away one therein won there since twenty eighteen, So
I mean a house of horrors up there. And truthfully,
they really just kind of played. They played a great
offensive half and they played great defensively for three quarters.
Uh they didn't you know, don't put the full game
together yet. But having having uh Rashaun Slater and all
back healthy that helps the run game. Also gave Herbert
(28:19):
some time to do some things the past game down
the field, Camani Vadell gives them another little, you know,
kind of a fun toy to play with their out
of the backfield. But this is, you know, this is
more about what their defense did for three quarters against
a rookie quarterback who was pretty overwhelmed. And uh and
I also think, look, give the give the Broncos. You
(28:39):
know this, I mean Patrick Startan gets hurt early in
that ballgame and that that changes, you know, their defense
pretty dramatically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What happened to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I went through this, uh maybe two weeks ago, and
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna try and I'm gonna
try and see what you know, I can form an
opinion on this. I'm going to study it and I'm
going to look at it from all different aspects, and
I thought I went into it with the preconceived notion, Okay,
there's going to be you know, past protection issues, there's
(29:12):
going to be receivers not creating separation. There's going to
be some mechanical thing that he's doing, you know, as
he fallen off throws, or his feet and eyes not connected.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And then I went to this and watched all this tape,
and I came away going, I don't what do you
do when you are protected, when guys are open, when
you are on balance as a thrower, and you just miss.
Like there is a lot of that. And I don't
know if that's a confidence thing, if that's a feel thing,
or what it is. But he has just missed throats.
(29:46):
You know, you'd love to give you a real complex
the answer there, but after you study it, I'm like,
he's just missing throws. I've never seen him miss when
he was at Clemson. Like these are easier throws. He's
not even close.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
The Eagles go to take on the Giants. The Eagles
go to take on the Giants, and of course this
is Saquon Barkley coming back home. And I know, Nick
Sirian it I mean, like Nick Sirian liked lights up
Eagles fans, like, I don't get that guy. But what's
the current real state of the Eagles when you watch
them on tape.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, they got their pass rush going last week, which
if the Eagles are good, and when they've been good,
it's because of how they play on the line of scrimmage.
They can run the ball with their offensive line and
then defensively they can get after the quarterback. So they
made some changes in the secondary of this offseason, like
that was the hope that that would cure some of
(30:42):
the issues they had back there. But they you know,
all of a sudden, now the pass rush went missing
under Vic Fangio. And now last week was the first
week I think they might have had five sacks in
that game. That was the first time I saw that
get cranked up, which I would I would take. It's
a very good sign as well as getting a little
bit help if you're at the wide receiver position. So
it was an encouraging, encouraging sign.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, all right, that's good. It's encouraging, discouraging if you're Jacksonville,
discouraging if you're the Cowboys, and encouraging if you are
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Discouraging, if you're a Padre fan, I can tell you
that much.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, we didn't want to bring it up, but since
you brought it up, I believe you said last time
we had you on and again, I could be wrong
that the Dodgers knew knew the Padres were better and
that's why they were so kind of bent out of
shape and you could like see their baseball anxiety.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Is that about right? Well?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I mean Dave Roberts came out and admitted publicly that
he made a mountain out of a molehill with the
Many Machado thing because he wanted it to be a
diversion for their team. So I mean, doesn't that kind
of point to exactly what I was saying there? Now,
they pitched their butts off the last two games. I'll
give them credit for that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, well, I just you know, this is weird, Doug Fabo,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Do do you know what? Do you know how we
do that? We on this show. What we do is
we say that's baseball. When things don't make any sense
at all, you just go a's baseball, like but still
doesn't make any sense. No, it's baseball. That's baseball. It's baseball.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
The best, the.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Best lineup in baseball goes twenty four innings without without
scoring or run. Makes sense of that?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, they chokers. It's okay, that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I can't. I can't. I can't refute it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I can't refit. It's Daniel Jeremiah. Move the six to
the podcast, check them out the NFL Network and of
course calling charge your games. You sure the best. Appreciate
shoing us.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Thanks Buddy, go Mats.
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we like to run down the big topics of the day,
the big topics of the day, and we do so
by getting to the press, the press. Isaac long Crowben
(33:29):
you get.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
All right, Doug as we know. This week, the New
York Jets acquired Davante Adams. The Buffalo Bills traded for
Amari Cooper, which means that neither of them went to
the two time defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs
well a short time ago. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes gave
a vote of confidence to his present receiving corps as
well as general manager Bret Veach, saying quote, I have
(33:53):
extreme continents. That's more grover than Patrick Mahomes. Let'll just
do it in a regular voice. I have extreme confidence
with the guys that are on the football field. They've
won games, they've won Super Bowls, They've made big plays
in big moments, and Brett Veach has done a great
job of bringing players in that can step up whenever
their number is called. It's a credit to Brett Veach
(34:14):
and Andy Reid bring in guys that really get after
it and put in the work to be great every
single day.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
In other words, I have no idea about player personnel.
Just get me, guys, and I'll figure it out. Soords
what you're.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Supposed to do, sort of the anti Aeron, Yeah, they
figured out before.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They'll figure it out this time. Just go play football.
They'll let them do their job. You do your job.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Such slow maintenance over there in Kansas City anyway. Speaking
of the Jets, interim head coach Jeff Ulbriks saying today
that DeVante Adams is expected to play Sunday against the
Steelers after his miraculous recovery from that hamstring injury. And
get this, a short time ago, Aaron Rodgers revealed that
Adams has been staying at Rogers House since the trade.
(34:59):
Rogers said even drove to practice together today.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
No word yet. If they're being fitted for a bicycle
built for two.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That'd be funny if they wrote in on a what
is that called with it? With the two person bicycle?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
A tandem?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Tandembike? Ever written on one of those?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, I couldn't find anyone to ride with me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Sounds about right?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Wait a minute, right, I know?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Alts?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's cool? I like it. I mean, there's no negatives
to it. I just again, you got your guys back, uh,
the Mike Williams saying like you can be right, but
why do you have to say that Mike Williams ran
the wrong route? Like he's going to be gone anyway,
say it behind closed doors. And if you're gonna be
the guy that speaks the truth all the time, why
(35:47):
not speak the truth about Robert Sala and how he
got fired in the fact you knew.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Actually, this next item is just breaking as we speak.
The Athletic just reported that Jerry Rhyme's door is open
to selling the Chicago White Sox and has even already
had active discussions with a group led by former Major
League pitcher Dave Stewart. This reported just moments ago by
(36:12):
The Athletic.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Dave Stuart one of the nicest man right and toughest
dudes ever. Ok Yeah, yeah, Smoke has like the nicest
voice ever.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But about Ryan Star of getting out of Major League Baseball,
that's weird.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Great news for people in Chicago. I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
By the way, another great thing that Dave Stewart did,
he was so active in the recovery effort immediately after
the earthquake during the World Series in eighty nine because
he was a native of Oklin. Yeah, but that just
reported right now by the Athletic. Okay, next night, boy,
tough injuries for the Saints head coach Dennis Allen ruling
out receiver Chris o'lave for Thursday Night football against the Broncos,
(36:51):
but he also announced receiver and returner Rashid Shaheed gonna
have meniscus surgery on his knee.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well miniscal surgery depends on what kind. But yeah, that's
not good. And if you wonder what happened to the Saints,
injuries very much part of the downfall of a team
that we had some high hopes for after early in
the season.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
And our final item on this edition to the Press,
ESPN reporting veteran outside shooter at Doug McDermott has agreed
to a one year deal with the Sacramento King's no
word yet if the Kings thought they were actually signing
Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, no chance. They need a shooter, not a talker.
So Dougie mcbuckets and the legend lives on. And that
is game time. That's suppress should.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Be the get out there and pressed. That was the press, Jase, do.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
We have not dug in, but give me your thoughts
on tonight's game.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Tonight it's going to be Walker Buewer delivers for Dodgers
and shol Hey Otawani wakes up in the LCS.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, listen, no stage like New York. Obviously better if
they play in the stadium. But yeah, wouldn't that be
something if we see from show, hey, what we had
seen him when he got pitched to. Obviously a little
bit of slump here is there pitching away from him,
and we'll see if he can get around. I tooth,
I actually think the Dodgers win tonight. I think the
(38:16):
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But first, every Wednesday is the middle of the week.
We have a one hour podcast which we drop at
the end of the show show, so technically three hours
this would be middle of the show and we're in
the middle of the day. So let's get to the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's not getting the middle It's time for.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The midway midway discussion. Is is uh worst contract in sports?
And I bring it up because I think the the
narrative most people will give you is that, uh, it's
got to be Deshaun Watson because in addition to being
(01:37):
accused of sexual assault by forty people forty women, he
got the first fully guaranteed five year contract in the
history of the NFL. And he's terrible. It's not terrible,
He's just not good. He's not good enough. And they
actually made the playoffs last year with his backup who
formerly was a very good quarterback in Joe black Ohwa's
(01:59):
play well this year. But again, like you have the
biggest contract in the is your sports, the history of
the sport at the time, fully guaranteed, and they're better
without you. That's a yikes. So let's go round the
room a little bit here, Ilo, what's your worst contract ever?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It is Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But on the premise that we're talking about something else,
I'm gonna go Bobby Bonia with the Mets back in
the day. The gift that keeps on giving every year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, so why is it a beat. Why is his
why is his contract still bad?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It's not so much the on field consequences, it's just
the ridiculousness of it all to have a contract. Yeah,
not not from not from Bobby's, but it's just it's
just comic. It's just so comical that it's gotten to
the point that there's literally a holiday after it. And
(03:01):
remember I'm on record as saying it's still the Deshaun
Watson by far. But if I had to pick something else,
I would go with that.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Why would the agent sign up for that? Or was
that Bonia's what's the story behind that? Because but isn't
a good deal. It's a great deal for Bonia. I'm
just saying it's not.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
A terrible deal for the Mets either to put money
and they put a lot less money in estro with
the guarantee that it'll be worth you know, a million
dollars per year once they get there. It's not close
to being a bad you know, he wasn't he wasn't
peaked Bnia with the Mets. But he wasn't terrible. You know,
(03:41):
it wasn't terrible. Played three full seasons in another season,
you know, hit nineteen thirty four twenty and eighteen home
runs in half a season before he was traded. So
I just don't the fact that he's still getting paid.
That's just deferred money. He's not the only one.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
It's like the old ard with the watery. You take
all the money now, less money now or over in
your lifetime. And I always thought the economists or people
that know money are like, you take the less money
now and then put it in some kind of a
savings saying that the interest alone will pay you more
than the year.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
To year point.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
You know what, I'm going to change my mind if
I can't Albert Poolholtz Angels.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Hold on a second, Hold on a second. We're getting
out of wine here. I claim poolholes for myself. Oh
very well, So I'm going to clean that up and edit.
We're just reminded of Bobby Bonia day every year. So
I think that's why we wish always think about it.
And yeah, yeah, you could put that money away and
listen if you if you're a you have trouble with
(04:43):
your spending habits, then getting a million or so every
year is probably good for you. I don't know what
these spending habits are, but that was my theory with
the OTTONI deal number. The theory that I started is
that all the deferred money in year ten was his
agent's way of saying, that gives you nine years to
clean up your gambling habit, and then we'll give you
(05:03):
all the money at the end. If we give it
to you now, you're gonna gamble it away.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So so you're going pooh holes.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Albert Poohols, at the age of thirty two, was lucky
enough to get a ten year contract from the Angels
for two hundred and forty million dollars. The crazy thing
about that number is I think he signed that contract
in like twenty ten. That sounds like a lot of
(05:35):
money today, Like if somebody signed a ten year two
forty you're like, wow, that's great. Good for you. I
want to say Ronald Acuna signed that deal and pooh
Hooles never never lived up to that contract and he
started to slow down much slower than everyone thought. Everyone remember,
Albert Poolhols supposedly allegedly lied on his Bircher too, so
(06:00):
he was always older than we thought, so that he
was probably actually thirty six when he signed that deal.
The Angels are a mess, because I really I'm going
to save them any kind of grief here by not
mentioning the Josh Hamilton deal and by not mentioning the
Anthony Rendon deal. So I'll just I'll save them the.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Grief, Big Apple, Sam.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
This doesn't approach to Sean Watson level, but I'll go
to the college ranks between a coach and a university.
Let's go back to twenty seventeen when Texas A and
M hired Jimbo Fisher and he signed a ten year,
seventy five million dollar contract. And what was special about
that contract. The school promised him every penny outlined in
(06:50):
the contract even if he was fired. Okay, and even worse,
if Jimbo Fisher decided to leave for another gig, he
would owe the school zero dollars. And there was no
language in the contract offset those terms so that Fisher
would get the entire worth of his deal even if
(07:12):
he were to take another job. I'm quoting a CBS
Sports article here, but here we go. Here's here it
gets even worse. LSU sniffed around Texas A and M
and twenty twenty one, after Texas A and M was
coming off of a good COVID year I guess, and
they signed him to another deal restarting the clock, ten year,
ninety five million dollars, and after he was fired going
(07:34):
forty five and twenty five, he was paid seventy million
dollars not to coach. So that's a pretty bad at
college football contract.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Stunned. Stunned by those numbers, my.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Jart do it? Do you guys remember the Eddie Curry
contract with the Knicks?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, okay, do you remember, Sam? Are you too young
to remember?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Too young?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Too young for that?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, So Eddie Curry signed a six year, sixty million
dollars deal with the Knicks. Now does that sound like
huge money? Probably no in this day and age, But
at the time it was top of the market. Right now,
what's important to understand is when they took Eddie Curry,
(08:29):
they took Eddie Curry. He had a heart problem. And
the thing about guaranteed contracts are they have to be
insured otherwise the team has to pay out of pocket,
right like none of them. When a guy gets hurt.
If Tua, for example, gets hurt, has to retire, can't play,
the Dolphins aren't paying the rest of that contract. The
(08:52):
insurance facings a matter of fact, if you remember back,
that's how Magic Johnson found out he had HIV. Before
every season, players had to take, you know, a blood
test for the insurance those And I've often said, if
anybody wants to be in the Hall of Fame, all
those blood tests and the fighting of them still exist in baseball.
(09:15):
Just allow us to see your blood test. We can
see whether or not you were cycling on steroids in
the offseason. Anyway, Eddie Curry being signed to a sixty
million dollar contract, one that he never came close to
living up to. And oh yeah, by the way, Isaiah
Thomas signing him to it when he had a heart problem,
(09:35):
So it was an uninsurable contract. I believe it's the
worst contract of all time. Look the pool host thing,
it was, it was bad, it was, it was absolutely bad.
But they knew poolholes would age. No one could have
no one could have known they'd have the constant foot
problem or whatever. You knew he was going to age,
(09:57):
and that's what she did to kind of get him.
Like I, it's a lot of money, but I do
get it. On the sun level. You knew Eddie Curry
didn't have a good work ethic. You knew Eddie Curry
because remember this is an Isaiah Thomas deal. He had
a heart problem. You wouldn't be able and you wouldn't
have to pay that much because he had the heart problem.
You could have gotten him for pennies because there's uninsured contract.
(10:20):
You didn't. That's the worst contract I could think. No,
I made what Jase do I'm sure you have more though.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Well, my Eddie Curry story, I need to tell it this.
I'm gonna take everyone behind behind the what is it?
Behind the curtain?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Curtain?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I booked Eddie Curry on the Jim Rome Show. It
was right around that time that he signed the contract,
or maybe in this maybe in his rookie year. I
signed Eddie Curry. And that was back in the day
when you know, all radio shows were just radio shows
and you just had phone interviews. That's what That's what
it was. So so I get a call from the
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agent a couple of minutes before the interview. It was
like he's like, hey, Eddie's ready to go. Where where
do you guys need him? And I'm like, what do
you mean just just hand them a phone? No, he's
he got his braid's done, Like he just spent like
eight thousand dollars on a haircut, like he got whatever
whatever you do to get braids done, And I'm like,
(11:18):
oh no, this is a phone interview and the agent
cussed me out.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Wait he thought he had to be he had his
braids down because he thought he was he be on TV. Yes,
Eddie Curry. By the way, Court Court records. One way
he blew his money was he was spending over a
thousand dollars a month on cable.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I thought I was paying a lot for internet?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
How do you pay?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
How do you how does it even happen?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
He did?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He I'm guessing, hey, that's a you know what.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
In hindsight though, with that story that Jay Stu just told,
that's a better deal compared to his haircut deal.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I don't know how much you get you have to
pay for those, I have no idea, But.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
He was.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Not she would you like eight months worth of cable
or to get your hair done?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
We I think Russell Wilson's getting ignored in this conversation.
Russell Wilson I think is playing for a league minimum
right now. But you have to take into consideration that
the Broncos gave him a five year deal for one
hundred and twenty five on a huss hold on a
second back up five year deal for two hundred and
forty five million dollars one hundred and sixty five million guaranteed,
(12:33):
and he played exactly two years of that deal.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Great point not to mention the bounty that the Seahawks
got to acquire.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Him in the first place.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, assets, assets going the other way, and they saved
on having to pay a max deal to a quarterback. Yeah,
the Russell Wilson contract has to be up there. Eddie
Curry's up there, but Russell Wilson's got to be autle
there with DeShawn Right. Any differences that Russell Wilson wasn't
an awful human being to women.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Correct, that's a that's a pretty big distinction. He He's
performed worse than I think than Nashawn in many ways,
especially the first year, but it's a pretty big distinction.
I Look, there's been a lot of bad quarterback contracts
(13:26):
to just have. It's not that you know, Tremarcus Russell
and Sam Bradford, you know, and Sam Bradford was a
good quarterback. He's always hurt and he just you know,
but that he remember he was the last guy to
get the big signing bonus as a rookie, got the
fifty million dollars up front. There's been plenty of guys
(13:48):
that are bad quarterbacks. Deshawn's differences. It was five years guaranteed,
fully guaranteed, and he had the sexual assault stuff and
he's just he's just been an energy drain for the
Cleveland Browns. That said, like, I think knowing a guy
has a heart problem, an insurance company not picking it
(14:09):
up and still going through with the contract. I oh, yeah.
By the way, he wasn't able to fulfill the contract,
where Deshaun is not good enough, but it looks like
he'll still fill the contract. I think it might make work.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah.
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Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So Earlier
this week, we talked about the twelfth man penalty that
Oregon committed against Ohio State what looked like a really
smart loophole within the rules, which sapped time off the clock,
but only cost the Ducks five yards. Here's Dan Lanning
(15:00):
earlier this week, asked about his press conference.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Much of the commentary world has decided and struck you
as a genius stand for the twelve man penalty and
declared that it was intentional. Was it indeed intentional to
induce to throw one on one against your bar in
that spot?
Speaker 9 (15:15):
He wasn't one on one. We actually had a safety
on top, so there was so it's called dog it's
when you played. But he wasn't an extremely tight coverage,
but he was in dog coverage where he had safety
on top of him. And yeah, there was a time
out before that. We spent in an order amount of
time on situations. There are some situations that don't show
up very often in college football, but this is one
that obviously was something that we have worked on, so
(15:39):
you could see the result.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, that was a great non answer. Great non answer, right,
couldn't be a better non answer. Here's Landing earlier today
on with Dan Patrick. Was it on purpose?
Speaker 10 (15:54):
I probably spent too much time on this on Monday,
and I know what answers we're looking for here, but
I got my dancing shoes on this morning dance. I'm
not going to get into great depth.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
On wait wait, wait, why why I thought it? I
thought it was brilliant coaching.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I mean, I think you I've paid.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Attention to a lot of situations like that. I always
think about the forty nine Ers Raven Super Bowl, right,
and the holding penalty at the end of the game
to run the clock out. I think as defensive coaches,
you're always trying to find ways to take advantage of
the rules that exist.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And we have an unbelievable staff.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
We spent a lot of time on a lot of
different situations, and when things are in place, you want
to try to be able to take advantage of them.
But I've asked my staff, I've asked our players. Hey,
Ohio State game, that was awesome. We're on a short week.
We got Purdue this week. Let's move on to Purdue.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Do you remember the super Bowl that was that I
referenced earlier this week Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Was it that one that he just referenced?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yep, boom, yep. That's amazing. And if you go back
at the time I was on air, that was the
New Orleans Super Bowls. Was CBS, right, that was the
Super Bowl where the lights went out. But the point
was that yet at the end of the game, the
Ravens they all held, so they could so they could
(17:19):
run out the clock. They all held, and you know,
it's one penalty, but that way they couldn't touch, you know,
they couldn't touch the quarterback, which is Joe Flacco. And
it was absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant as long as you
don't you know, and if you hold the end zone,
it's two points. There were up three points. So it's
(17:41):
just a loophole. Well, the NCAA today announced that they're
going to close up that loophole. And though the keeping
the time on the clock or putting the time back
on the clop clock is now part of the penalty,
so that eliminates that. But it is a loophole and
others do exist. And I'm going to credit somebody, Frankfurcilla,
(18:01):
who's a longtime head coach, obviously head coached in New Mexico,
Manhattan and Saint John's. If you follow him on social media,
you know every year he tells college coaches have a
rules expert on your team, somebody who goes through all
of the rules because there are loopholes within the rules,
loopholes within the rules. Anyway, I love it. I suggested
(18:25):
the clock reset earlier this week, and because I think
that's fair, equitable and eliminates that thing. Well, last Daniel
Jeremiah now he joins this move the sticks, as is
the podcast DJ. It feels pretty obvious the organ thing
was on purpose. Right. You remember the Ravens Niners Soup Bowl,
don't you?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah? I was there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
If you could, could you describe the play with the Ravens.
It was like the last play of the game right
where they everybody held. You can only call it one penalty,
but it then ran time off the clock.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah. No, they just literally just tackled everybody and just
knowing that you're fine with the yards, you're just not
going to give up the touchdown. And teams will do
that inside of ten seconds or even inside five seconds,
because then you don't leave them with an option, you
know what I mean, Like, Okay, well, it's either you
go for it and win the game or you lose.
(19:18):
There's no go for it and then also have a
fallback with the field goal opportunity like that happens a
lot in games. Where you'll see those options. It was
something that I brought up on a broadcast when the
Chargers and Raiders were playing that final winning in game
with different strategies like this, where the Chargers didn't use
their time out if you remember, and that allowed the
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Raiders to kick an as as the game expires field
goal with no punishment, because if they don't get it,
the game's over. It's not you're going to give the
ball back to the Chargers. There's all these little edges
in these little ways around rules and timeouts and tackling
guys or putting an extra defender on the field. Rabel
did it. Did something similarly with the Titans. Remember when
(20:00):
they went into New England and that was a big
story because he kind of outsmarted Bill Belichick. But I
feel like one or two of these things pop up
a year.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, let's get to the NFL Steelers trying to figure
out if they play Russell Wilson. What would you do
if you were Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Well, I have respect for Tomlin because he knows this
is not going to be popular, you know, amongst the
fan base, and he's just he's doing and sticking by
what he believes in, which is you can't preach process
over results and then just say, well, we're going to
stick with justin fields because we're winning. You know, like, well,
(20:40):
I don't know if that's good enough to beat the
teams we have to beat to go where we want
to go, and they want to get a look at
at Russell Wilson. So that's what he's kind of always
been about. He doesn't really care about outside nois or
outside opinions and his you know, the way he looks
at this offense, he knows they're going to need more
than what they've gotten to get where they want to go.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Tull Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What do
you think about the DeVante Adams trade. Let's start from
the Jets perspective.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean not a surprise. I mean they're they're so
pot committed with with Rogers right now that he's going
to get whatever he wants and this was kind of
the next item on his list. What are you going
to tell him? No, Like you're you're already that far
down the road. I do think he'll do well there,
just from the standpoint of he's going to be on
(21:31):
the same page as a quarterback. I didn't necessarily agree
with throwing Mike Williams under the bus like that. You know,
obviously anybody that watched it and and knows football could
know that he was you know, he wasn't at the
right landmark on that throw. But to air him out
publicly like that, I thought was kind of bush league.
But he is going to be on the same page
with Devonte Adams as he's been on the same page
(21:52):
with with Alan Lazard. You're just committed to doing your
You're committed to the Aaron Rodgers wait this year that
this so let me so.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Help me sell me out with that. Okay, So Mike
Waves wasn't you know, the red line, which is you know,
really outer third we call it the alley in basketball, right,
he wasn't now in the alley, and so I still
think by the way the lizard was open, that's where
the ball should have gone. But I mean because the
safety was sucked in, he had his hand up because
(22:20):
he was open. But regardless, have you ever heard that,
Like all he had to say was it was a
miscommunication and instead he like he threw him right under
the bus. I guess I guess the question is did
he do it to make sure they went and got
Devonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I'm sure that was probably pretty far into the works,
but that might have been the finishing touch there, especially
because the game before he had thrown the mic and
got picked off on a back shoulder throw where they
weren't on the same page to end that game over
in London. But I just I've never I can't recall
at least a quarter back doing that to a receiver
(23:02):
in the post game. And I think Aaron's defense is
this place needs more accountability. Well, there's a lot of
ways to have accountability. I don't know it's necessarily your
job to air out your teammates who are, by all
accounts not It's not an effort thing, right, That's not
somebody who's not trying. That's someone who had had a
(23:24):
you know, just kind of busted in an assignment mentally,
who has been in this organization. You know, this is
his first year there in a new system. All that stuff.
I just had never heard that. I've I've heard quarterbacks
go up there and and take blame for something that
anybody who knows football knows it was one hundred percent
not their fault. But they'll they'll wear it publicly and
then and then the meeting room they'll they'll go one
(23:46):
on one or even in front of the offense and
be like, hey, we have got to be on our
p's and q's here, You've got to be on your landmarks.
This can't happen again. But that happens behind closed doors,
not in public.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's like Sean McVay like every time they lose, as like,
that's on me, that's on the coaching staff, knowing that
when they watch film he lights Dow's up right, Like, yeah,
I don't, but I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like that the whole the whole defense is well, hey,
I'm honest, you know, that's that's being.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Awest, except for the fact that he wasn't honest about
clearly knowing and having playing a part in Robert Salah
getting fired. Right, Oh, you don't want to be honest
about that.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, no, that's a that's all a fair point there.
But the one thing I guess, from a positive standpoint
with the Jets, I would say is that I don't
know how well Allen Wizard's skill set translates to any
of the thirty one other teams. And because him and
Aaron are on the same page he's he's actually been
pretty productive. And I would say DeVante, even having lost
a step and not what he was three years ago,
(24:46):
is still a heck of a lot more talented than
now a wizard. So it probably will It probably will work.
But everybody's going to spend this whole week talking about,
you know, Rogers and DeVante Adams. I'd be a little
bit more worried about Tyrone Smith versus t J.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Watt. Okay, what about uh, what about the Amari Cooper trade?
What does that do for Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I think if you get a motivated Amari Cooper and
a little change of scenery there, I still think he
has ability, and I don't think he's a number one
by any stretch, but it does give him a little more,
a little more juice to win on third downs. That
was an area of the production that I was, you know,
curious to see without Stefan Diggs. You know what that
(25:30):
would look like. They've mixed it up, They've they've pushed
the ball around a different guy. Khalil Shakers had his moments.
Dal Kincaid's had his moments, but I think this just
gives him another option there for that situation. I don't
think he's what he was at his peak, but I
do think he's, you know, now one of their three
best options in the past game.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Stut Gottleab show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah. All Right, DJ, what's up with
the Cowboys? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Man? That was an awful just an awful defensive performance.
Offensive line wise was not good. You know, Dak's fallen
off throws, missing throws. It was a pretty thorough, you know,
just debacle. I don't think that this falls into the
the feet of one person. I think that was a
(26:21):
pretty pretty complete, absolute mess of a game that you
saw the other day. So they've got a lot of
things to get straightened out. Their record puts them still
in the middle of things. But that was about as
bad a tape as I've watched.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Arizona Cardinal's tape wasn't very good either. I was just
I don't know what happened there, but they were bad.
They were with the exception of like ten minutes in
the middle of the game. It was never it was
never really a contest.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, they're they're a weird team, man, because there's games
where they play so hard, and I'm like, man, the
sum is greater than the parts. And Kyler can you
know he got some magic to him some games and
they're capable of beating anybody, and then they just come
out and just lay some of these eggs. And yeah, look,
Marvin Harrison Junior I heard early in that ball game.
(27:08):
But they just zero rhythm, zero energy. It's just they're
they're they're kind of an odd team.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Very much not a team. And they had they only
random once in the first half and it was on
a third down, third and one or something on his
own read and it wasn't wasn't good. He made the
wrong read. I was. I thought I was going to
be really impressed when I went to the game, and
I was really not impressed. I think that's the only
way to so the only way to only way to.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
To to truly, Doug, I'll report back see if they
get me better on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
What about the Chargers, I mean, like, look, I understand
Denver is not very good, but that was impressive. I mean,
we've we've seen them go in there against terrible Denver
teams and struggle. What what what's the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Take away one therein won there since twenty eighteen, So
I mean a house of horrors up there. And truthfully,
they really just kind of played. They played a great
offensive half and they played great defensively for three quarters.
Uh they didn't you know, don't put the full game
together yet. But having having uh Rashaun Slater and all
back healthy that helps the run game. Also gave Herbert
(28:19):
some time to do some things the past game down
the field, Camani Vadell gives them another little, you know,
kind of a fun toy to play with their out
of the backfield. But this is, you know, this is
more about what their defense did for three quarters against
a rookie quarterback who was pretty overwhelmed. And uh and
I also think, look, give the give the Broncos. You
(28:39):
know this, I mean Patrick Startan gets hurt early in
that ballgame and that that changes, you know, their defense
pretty dramatically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What happened to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I went through this, uh maybe two weeks ago, and
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna try and I'm gonna
try and see what you know, I can form an
opinion on this. I'm going to study it and I'm
going to look at it from all different aspects, and
I thought I went into it with the preconceived notion, Okay,
there's going to be you know, past protection issues, there's
(29:12):
going to be receivers not creating separation. There's going to
be some mechanical thing that he's doing, you know, as
he fallen off throws, or his feet and eyes not connected.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And then I went to this and watched all this tape,
and I came away going, I don't what do you
do when you are protected, when guys are open, when
you are on balance as a thrower, and you just miss.
Like there is a lot of that. And I don't
know if that's a confidence thing, if that's a feel thing,
or what it is. But he has just missed throats.
(29:46):
You know, you'd love to give you a real complex
the answer there, but after you study it, I'm like,
he's just missing throws. I've never seen him miss when
he was at Clemson. Like these are easier throws. He's
not even close.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
The Eagles go to take on the Giants. The Eagles
go to take on the Giants, and of course this
is Saquon Barkley coming back home. And I know, Nick
Sirian it I mean, like Nick Sirian liked lights up
Eagles fans, like, I don't get that guy. But what's
the current real state of the Eagles when you watch
them on tape.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, they got their pass rush going last week, which
if the Eagles are good, and when they've been good,
it's because of how they play on the line of scrimmage.
They can run the ball with their offensive line and
then defensively they can get after the quarterback. So they
made some changes in the secondary of this offseason, like
that was the hope that that would cure some of
(30:42):
the issues they had back there. But they you know,
all of a sudden, now the pass rush went missing
under Vic Fangio. And now last week was the first
week I think they might have had five sacks in
that game. That was the first time I saw that
get cranked up, which I would I would take. It's
a very good sign as well as getting a little
bit help if you're at the wide receiver position. So
it was an encouraging, encouraging sign.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, all right, that's good. It's encouraging, discouraging if you're Jacksonville,
discouraging if you're the Cowboys, and encouraging if you are
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Discouraging, if you're a Padre fan, I can tell you
that much.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, we didn't want to bring it up, but since
you brought it up, I believe you said last time
we had you on and again, I could be wrong
that the Dodgers knew knew the Padres were better and
that's why they were so kind of bent out of
shape and you could like see their baseball anxiety.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Is that about right? Well?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I mean Dave Roberts came out and admitted publicly that
he made a mountain out of a molehill with the
Many Machado thing because he wanted it to be a
diversion for their team. So I mean, doesn't that kind
of point to exactly what I was saying there? Now,
they pitched their butts off the last two games. I'll
give them credit for that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, well, I just you know, this is weird, Doug Fabo,
it's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Do do you know what? Do you know how we
do that? We on this show. What we do is
we say that's baseball. When things don't make any sense
at all, you just go a's baseball, like but still
doesn't make any sense. No, it's baseball. That's baseball. It's baseball.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
The best, the.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Best lineup in baseball goes twenty four innings without without
scoring or run. Makes sense of that?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, they chokers. It's okay, that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I can't. I can't. I can't refute it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I can't refit. It's Daniel Jeremiah. Move the six to
the podcast, check them out the NFL Network and of
course calling charge your games. You sure the best. Appreciate
shoing us.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Thanks Buddy, go Mats.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
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Speaker 1 (32:46):
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(33:08):
we like to run down the big topics of the day,
the big topics of the day, and we do so
by getting to the press, the press. Isaac long Crowben
(33:29):
you get.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
All right, Doug as we know. This week, the New
York Jets acquired Davante Adams. The Buffalo Bills traded for
Amari Cooper, which means that neither of them went to
the two time defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs
well a short time ago. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes gave
a vote of confidence to his present receiving corps as
well as general manager Bret Veach, saying quote, I have
(33:53):
extreme continents. That's more grover than Patrick Mahomes. Let'll just
do it in a regular voice. I have extreme confidence
with the guys that are on the football field. They've
won games, they've won Super Bowls, They've made big plays
in big moments, and Brett Veach has done a great
job of bringing players in that can step up whenever
their number is called. It's a credit to Brett Veach
(34:14):
and Andy Reid bring in guys that really get after
it and put in the work to be great every
single day.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
In other words, I have no idea about player personnel.
Just get me, guys, and I'll figure it out. Soords
what you're.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Supposed to do, sort of the anti Aeron, Yeah, they
figured out before.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They'll figure it out this time. Just go play football.
They'll let them do their job. You do your job.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Such slow maintenance over there in Kansas City anyway. Speaking
of the Jets, interim head coach Jeff Ulbriks saying today
that DeVante Adams is expected to play Sunday against the
Steelers after his miraculous recovery from that hamstring injury. And
get this, a short time ago, Aaron Rodgers revealed that
Adams has been staying at Rogers House since the trade.
(34:59):
Rogers said even drove to practice together today.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
No word yet. If they're being fitted for a bicycle
built for two.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That'd be funny if they wrote in on a what
is that called with it? With the two person bicycle?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
A tandem?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Tandembike? Ever written on one of those?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, I couldn't find anyone to ride with me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Sounds about right?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Wait a minute, right, I know?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Alts?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's cool? I like it. I mean, there's no negatives
to it. I just again, you got your guys back, uh,
the Mike Williams saying like you can be right, but
why do you have to say that Mike Williams ran
the wrong route? Like he's going to be gone anyway,
say it behind closed doors. And if you're gonna be
the guy that speaks the truth all the time, why
(35:47):
not speak the truth about Robert Sala and how he
got fired in the fact you knew.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Actually, this next item is just breaking as we speak.
The Athletic just reported that Jerry Rhyme's door is open
to selling the Chicago White Sox and has even already
had active discussions with a group led by former Major
League pitcher Dave Stewart. This reported just moments ago by
(36:12):
The Athletic.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Dave Stuart one of the nicest man right and toughest
dudes ever. Ok Yeah, yeah, Smoke has like the nicest
voice ever.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But about Ryan Star of getting out of Major League Baseball,
that's weird.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Great news for people in Chicago. I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
By the way, another great thing that Dave Stewart did,
he was so active in the recovery effort immediately after
the earthquake during the World Series in eighty nine because
he was a native of Oklin. Yeah, but that just
reported right now by the Athletic. Okay, next night, boy,
tough injuries for the Saints head coach Dennis Allen ruling
out receiver Chris o'lave for Thursday Night football against the Broncos,
(36:51):
but he also announced receiver and returner Rashid Shaheed gonna
have meniscus surgery on his knee.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well miniscal surgery depends on what kind. But yeah, that's
not good. And if you wonder what happened to the Saints,
injuries very much part of the downfall of a team
that we had some high hopes for after early in
the season.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
And our final item on this edition to the Press,
ESPN reporting veteran outside shooter at Doug McDermott has agreed
to a one year deal with the Sacramento King's no
word yet if the Kings thought they were actually signing
Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, no chance. They need a shooter, not a talker.
So Dougie mcbuckets and the legend lives on. And that
is game time. That's suppress should.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Be the get out there and pressed. That was the press, Jase, do.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
We have not dug in, but give me your thoughts
on tonight's game.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Tonight it's going to be Walker Buewer delivers for Dodgers
and shol Hey Otawani wakes up in the LCS.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, listen, no stage like New York. Obviously better if
they play in the stadium. But yeah, wouldn't that be
something if we see from show, hey, what we had
seen him when he got pitched to. Obviously a little
bit of slump here is there pitching away from him,
and we'll see if he can get around. I tooth,
I actually think the Dodgers win tonight. I think the
(38:16):
Dodgers going in both in New York. That's my thoughts.
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