April 30, 2025 • 37 mins
In this edition of The Midway, Doug and the crew settle the topic du jour: 100 humans v one silverback gorilla. Doug welcomes NFL Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to break down all of the high level topics from the NFL Draft. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Show Fox Sports Radio. Hey, we do the Midway every Wednesday,
(00:23):
middle of the week, middle of the day, middle of
the show, right because we had the one hour podcast
that follows this, and it's usually a discussion where uh,
something outside of the realm, sometimes the sports, sometimes it's not.
It can be music, it could be whatever. I thought
I had the right topic, and then Jay Su just
(00:45):
kind of goes buzzkill on me because he's like, yeah,
everybody's talked about that topic. So Jay Stu, if you
have a better one, you feel free, Dan Byer Sam,
I'll let you guys sort of decide. But I like
the hundred one hundred men versus the gorilla discussion that
has been on the internet and I wasn't aware of
(01:06):
it only because you know, my algorithm is all portal
news and basketball, basketball, basketball, stuff. But my son and
I we're hanging out this weekend and he's like, hey, Dad,
have you seen the big internet question of the weekend.
I was like, no, but I have not. He's like,
it's a gorilla versus one hundred men? Who wins?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And jaysetu. Your whole thing is everybody's done that. Now
we're at like Tuesday, because everybody's done it one day.
That makes it played out.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, it's Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Is it Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And people have been doing it all week? I want
to say our own Cadino and Rich did it at
least Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But that tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was all over my timeline the past twenty four hours.
So I just thought we were away to the party.
But I'm willing to do it. I got takes.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think if you have takes and I have takes,
it's a good one. So let's get to the midway.
It's not getting the middle. It's time for.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The midway.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Do we have any Do we have any understanding of
who started this one hundred men versus guerrilla argument?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't. I'm not sure where it originated from, Sam.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Maybe the TikTok somewhere the TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You said, like, Sam, you're a little bit younger than
us saying the TikTok. Maybe that sounds like Donald Trump,
like I lose the TikTok or Joe Biden that was
on the TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
That's where all these dumb things start. It's on Instagram
or the TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know. Yeah, well last week it was the ice
Bucket challenge thing or but we'd already done that. That's
like five years ago, the ice Bucket Challenge for als. Now,
somebody like we got to come up. We don't necessarily
need to top it, don't need to jump off a
bridge or something, but it should be something different than
ice Bucket yet.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Anyway, shot gpt says this starter than twenty twenty two.
The recent popularity can be traced back to a post
by on former Twitter by dream Chase and Mike, where
you suggested that one hundred dedicated humans could potentially win
a single gorilla fight. As reported by The New York Times, is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Dream chasing Mike a famous guy on on the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Or the X. He might be an egg with three followers.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
He might be he might be various iterations have kind
of popped up over the last few months. Like Covin
and Rich were talking about how many steven A's could
it take to take down Lebron, So there's like this,
how many of one thing could take down another thing?
I also see these weird kind of simulations in my
reels on social media where it's like a thousand dragons
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versus like a million orcs from from Lord of the Ring.
So it's like these random like I don't even know
whop assist with this stuff that he's not saying.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't either, but I do like this. I think
I'm guessing Jaycetu and I have the same philosophy. But
let's go. Let's start with Dan. Okay, Dan, when did
you become First of all, when did you become aware
of the hundred men versus a gorillathon?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It was Sunday or Monday? Yeah, yes, yes, at right time?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, and immediately, what'd you think?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I didn't put much thought to it. Actually it wasn't
necessarily in my wheelhouse. But for the sake of this
of this argument, I have thought about it. I've thought
about a lion versus a wild pack of hyenas, because
I think that that's that's somewhat of a fair comparison
if you're trying to do a one versus ten or twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I actually think that's a really really good one. Yes,
I'll tell you why after you finish, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So the the thing is is, I think that the
sheer number of men or humans is jarring. But like,
in no way would you have a hundred of them
fighting at the same time. You couldn't get that many
punches in. There would just be too many people. So
my first thought is how many can you send in
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initially to make a dent to wound or limit the
gorilla without completely wasting the rest of the backup around.
So out of one hundred, like, you can't even put
fifty guys, there's not enough. There's not enough room there
to do damage. So then I'm wondering, okay, ten is
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ten enough or would the gorilla wipe out the ten immediately?
And then it just becomes around That's where I started
to think of how do you how do you end
up doing this? How do you have enough men or
women to make an initial initial attack to at least
slow down the gorilla to make any headway in the matter.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
See, I thought you meant with the hyaenas, because the
key to the hyaenas is they tire out. They wait
for the lion to get tired, right, They wait till
they just circle and circle and circle and yeah, and
then you know the lionel the lion will Now, the
lion does not do as much damage as the gorilla
will do, right, because the gorilla can just pull your
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arm right off the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It really has opposable thumbs and can grab your head
and rip it off.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes, so in many ways, the girl is more dangerous
than a lion. On the other hand, you have the
intellectual capabilities of man, which we think are better. So
Jase do this is probably what you're thinking, because this
is what I'm thinking, right, is I want to be
Dude ninety seven through one hundred, right, but I want
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to be the guy who and because I'm a coach,
I can be the strategy guy, but I can stay
out of the front.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The first You're like, at the end you're like, no, no, no,
I'm in the back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What point you guys we're using, Well, the first ten,
first ten to fifteen, those are all those guys that
are like UFC dude who thinks like I got this,
I got this right. There's a let's roll guy who
thinks like this is his nine to eleven sort of moment.
I'm gonna stand up for mankind like those guys those
first fifteen. They go in and and one their goal
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is they are there for us to observe what the
weaknesses of said gorilla are. And they're but they're mostly
there for them to tire out the gorilla, because at
some point the grill is going to get tired and
that's what we got to strike, or that's when everybody
else has to strike and I can direct them in
a strike case. Is that is that anywhere near what
you were thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Kind of? But I guess I guess I'm just clarify
the entire thing here, Okay, is are we picking which
one's gonna win? Or are we coming up with reasons
how the humans will win.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How humans would win, because otherwise, as you think that,
I mean, one on one or one on five, the gorilla,
the silverback is gonna win.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Can I just say state for the record, I think
one hundred men gets it done easily.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know easily. I think I think hold on,
but here, no, here's here's the problem. Okay, if it's
a real gorilla, you really go after a gorilla, there's
gonna be at least twenty guys that can't handle the
fact that he's gonna rip somebody's head off.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But are like, are we literally count mentality or is
this like this gorilla has to be defeated or else
we all die? Like we get sent off, we get.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Lots of guys are sitting there going like, hey, I
don't want to, but I do it. You know, we're
gonna put three cargo. We'll go, we'll go do it right.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's like brave part at the front of the line.
Those guys just like we got here's this.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, here's what, here's here, here's my thing. Okay. To
answer your question, Sam is have you ever seen the
show What would you Do?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What would you do? And the for people haven't seen it,
the premise of it is like a baby's in a
stroller and it's rolling down a hill and you're sitting
there at a cafe and you see it rolling by.
Normally you'd think I just I grab the baby and
keep them going. But as they show you lots of
people react poorly when they say see things happening. So
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every guy, yes, every guy is like, dude, i'd be fine, right,
I'll be all right, Like, yeah, the gorilla's gonna throw
some people around, but I'll be smart and I'll avoid it. Okay,
But have you ever actually seen somebody's head ripped off
of their body?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I have not. I have not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Okay, Well, when you see somebody's head ripped or arm
limb ripped off of your body involuntarily, many people are
going to throw up, pass out, or be or poop
their pants. So I think that's the reality of I
still think that man could pull it off, but it
would take a sensible attack.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Some people would have to be sacrificed. Sorry, guys, it
has to go out.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It has to go in waves.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
There going waves.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Put the braves in the front.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And this is where the hyena was the right one,
because hyenas they just they want to tire you out,
tire you out, and eventually the silver back gets tired out.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Because that's I think. I thought, that's why this whole
thing has been lasting for a few days, is that
it's fifty to fifty. Right, there are people making the
case that the gorilla wins fifty to fifty. Like so,
if you're asking me who's going to win, humans are
going to win for a similar reason, Doug set. But
I'm also going to make references to two key wars
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in our history. Russia won World War Two. And I
know that's controversial with people because we're supposed to hate Russia.
I know our history books probably tell us we want it.
But Russia won World War Two why because they had
ten times more troops, ten times more people to slaughter
than Germany did. They overwhelmed them with numbers. If you
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go back to the Civil War, I think it was
General George mcclen McClellan who told Lincoln at some point,
we've been fighting these battles with one hand tied behind
our backs. Why don't we just send ten times more
guys into these battles. That's why I think we would
beat the gorilla, just a sheer mass of numbers and strength.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I mean, you're gonna send five guys to latch onto
each arm of the gorilla. You're gonna try to and
I know that gorilla could probably whip those guys around.
We put enough guys, you can fit enough guys on
each arm, you're gonna weigh down that gorilla, and then
he can't use his most valuable weapon, his resoarch, which
is the strength of his arms and his hands. I mean,
he can bite you, but if you keep his head
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and face away from other guys, then that's not gonna
be a problem. But I agree with Jason, and the
reason why the Americans won the Revolutionary War is because
they stopped lining up in lines like the British did,
who had numbers, and just marched straight out the at
the at the at the conflict they would they actually
no pun intended employed gorilla tactics by hiding and doing
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be more strategic instead of just marching full mass into
the bloody conflict.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, I I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I do.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I think the I think the humans win pretty easily.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There'll be some there'll be some some bloodshed and.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Some gold the human I don't think the humans win.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Out of one hundred.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yes, you're saying though, that some of them are gonna
chicken out, which okay, let's say fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Chicken out like it's not. Yes, there'll be some people
that will run. There was some people that will run
for the hills. There was people that will be physically ill.
There will be some, There'll be there will be at least,
you know, five or ten that get clipped. When a
gorilla grabs one human throws that human takes out another human,
right like kind of the bowling ball sort of philosophy.
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I don't think you understand the strength and power of
a silver backed gorilla and how it compares to and
their level of intelligence.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
They are strong, very strong. We're talking about we're talking
about like if you had five to ten men going
at each limb, or five men, you can't fit that
many grill Like Dan said, you can't see that many
gorillas around. But you you sent and then you start
gouging its eyes, you start kicking it in the crotch maybe,
and you start punching it in the pelvis, And I
think that that girl is going to wear down after
about thirty forty men.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
To Jason's point of who wins, I think on the surface,
one hundred versus one is pretty easy. Yeah, but the
gorilla has basically one plan, and there could be a
variety of plans for the humans, and so many of
those could yeah, could go awry.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, And I actually think there's an expression my best
like plans of mice and men off and go a.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Rye, yes, there you go. You could have Jordan Hudson
just stand on the outside and talk for a while
and then maybe a little just ends it himself.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Little the gorilla to sleep, or he just says, I
don't want to take it.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that.
It's already been discussed.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The gorilla marches out of the interview.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I know, I know this is not the gorilla thing.
But how uncomfortable is the Jordan Hudson thing, Like, so
uncomfortable again?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Just ever there talk his ear off. Don't want no
part of it.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
It's already been undressed on.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
There's so Sam and Jason are on the side of humans.
I think I sided with the gorilla.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm with the gorilla as well. Gorilla Team Gorilla. Actually
we all actually want to see this happen.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I don't want to see anyone's head get ripped off.
I will be and and honestly I wouldn't want to
see an animal. That's the problem, yea.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The problem that we don't want to see an animal
get kill. We don't want to get see something, but
we do kind of want to see it.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
The silverback gorilla is an endangered species, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's fun, Yeah, it is. It's so it's like
their habit that's diminishing, like the orangutan.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I know that, I know the habitats maschion. I didn't
know they were in nature.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I'm pretty sure. And so you want them to live
their cool species. You just want to leave them alone.
You want to give them their space, you know, which.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Is why I want to see them rip somebody's head up,
because like, have you seen the movie humans on some
level had to come into them.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Have you seen the movie Congo? It kind of reminds
you of Congo, except they had like these laser guns
that they shot at the gorillas. But they're all these crazy,
like deranged gorillas.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And they delivered the video game.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was a little before my time down up, down, left, right,
left right?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Abba wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That the olymited lives.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Chat GPT says yeh. Silverback gorillas, along with all gorilla species,
are endangered according to the International Union of Conserve, Conservation
and Natures.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh yeah, they're in dangered. That's because me and Dan
Yer are coming.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
With better watch out.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm on you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would be number one, oh one of the one hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
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text Lane just I'm a team Gorilla. Lane's team Gorilla Doug.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I I just imagine you coming in at the end
like some general after like at the beginning of Apocalypse Now,
He's like, well done, boys, you got the job done.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, no, I have a cigarette. I'll be uh, what
who isn't in Apocalypse now? God? Who is the general with?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
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smells like smells like victory. I love the Spell of
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want your your opinion here. You your son's you know young,
so I have a teenage son. DJ. I know you
have teenage sons as as well. Dane Jeremiah joins us
from the NFL Network and uh move the six podcast. Look,
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if you're Jeff Olbrich, I mean, obviously it's a bad look.
You feel bad as well, But one hundred thousand dollars
feels really really steep. Am I wrong buyer?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think it's it is for him. I think that
it's warranted though, considering this is confidential information that and
you have to look like you made a stand, So
I think it's warranted.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, there's been the other pranks, even this one, and
going back to last year, and no one's been chased down.
It feels like this is maybe more Schador Sanders centric.
Daniel Jeremiah joins us, we don't need to talk about
what I mean. Obviously, if your son does it, you
go crazy. One hundred thousand dollars feel steep to me,
just does Dejeb.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's a lot of lawns he's going to have to
mow to help pay out one off for Pops. But
I do kind of agree with the message being sent.
This was just kind of a bigger message, and it
wasn't I mean, there was a lot of other people
that got hit with these print calls. I know, like
Riley Leonard got hit with one amongst other people. So
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I think it was just kind of like, hey, let's
just send a message and just so people know how.
I'm not saying this is how the Falcons are going
to handle it, but I know of other times, like
you hear stories about individuals being fined and then they're there,
this club ends up kind of making that right, if
you know what I mean, Like in the next contract,
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you kind of get a little bump and they kind
of take care of you on that stuff. So I
don't think that the Olbrich family is going to be
missing meals because of the hundred thousand dollars. Fine, but
it's definitely a message sent to the entire league that
we gotta okay, guys, we got to stop this stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Dana Jeremiah. Okay, DJ, what was your EVL
of Schudor Sanders.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean I thought I thought he had he
has a uh. I put him in that potential starter category.
I mean, and he's got to just be in the
right situation. But I thought he had the ability to
start because of the you know, toughness, accuracy, you know,
decision making, all that stuff. Good, like those are positives.
He's just not a big guy. He doesn't have a
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huge arm. He's not a great athlete. He's not a
tracy player. So that's gonna first of all, that's going
to limit the number of teams that you're going to fit. Right,
you got to be a point guard, like a crew
point guard style of quarterback, and so when you have
a limited number of pools, you start there and then
you go through the process, and you're not really wanting
to go through the whole process with all the different teams,
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and there's teams that was talking to people that said, hey,
if you weren't in the top seven, you weren't going
to get Really he wasn't giving you the time of day.
Like he completely limited himself by by kind of the
way he handled the process. So I think there's a
lot of reasons that come together into why he ended
up going where he went.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Okay, but again, talent wise, where would you have been.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Comfortable talent wise, that would have been comfortable on the
you know, he's a bottom first second round player, Like,
that's where my grade was with him, you know, I
think that was, you know, a legitimate place for him
to go, and then you know, you go, once you
get beyond that first wave, then now you're going to
really start to fall because there's no middle class with quarterbacks.
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I thought he was bottom tier upper class, which puts
you in the twenties thirties, is kind of where Migrade
put him. But once you get out of that, there's
just you're not gonna you're not going to find people
in that middle tier. They're just going to say, oh,
you're either in the top tier or you're in the
next you know tier, which is going to put you
in the fourth fifth round.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How does he compare to Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
His tapes more impressive than Dylan Gabriel's. Dylan Gabriel's. You know,
he's undersized guy who makes you know, really good decisions.
You talk about some of the same strengths, but I
mean it's a lot. It's a lot underneath and over
the top, not a lot of intermediate stuff, which is
kind of where the game is played. I think you
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see Schador make a lot more bros in that range
than you do see with Gabriel. I think Gabriel to
me was a you know, he's going to be a
valuable backup, who's a great dude, who's going to serve
the starter, and who can have a long career in
that role. You know, you think about guys that are
kind of limited skill set wise, in size wise, guys
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like case Keenum, you know that have hung around the
NFL for a long time. That's kind of what I
would put him in that vein.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, professional backup, yep, that's what he is. So but
you've also look, you've been in this league as a
scout cover this league for years now. How does that work?
They got Flacco, they have Gabriel, they have obviously have Shador,
they have Kenny Pickett, and then they still have Deshaun
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Watson's contract. You know, how does it work.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I think Flaco is going to be on the team
and he's probably the most likely Week one starter, and
they're going to let the other three duke it out
for two spots with Picket and the two rookies. I
would say it's highly unlikely that a third round pick
is going to get cut just because you don't feel
good about that. It doesn't look good. So that would mean,
you know, Gabriel has a good opportunity there. And then
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you start coming down to Shuduur versus Kenny Pickett. If
it's close, Shade will get you know, we'll get the
nod because he's younger, he's cheaper, all those things. So
to me, that's kind of the competition to keep an
eye on all these quarterbacks. Just it's going to be
Kenny Pickett versus shud Or Sanders to see who makes
the team, and Shoudeur Sanders just needed to be close.
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I think Kenny Pickett probably has to knock him out
to win to win his job.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's crazy, uh, really interesting stuff. Okay, whose draft did
you really really like?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I love what Patriots?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Did you know?
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I really did? I thought that if you were Drake
May coming into the draft, you knew, gosh, I need
a lot of help. I need, you know, stuff all
over the place. Our offense didn't have anything really to
work with this last year. And you go out and
you get trade Jawn Henderson, who I loved, is a
back who's someone who can catch the heck out of it.
Is also going to be a really good, you know,
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pass protector, one of the best it's come out in
a long time. So you take that, you get him
in the mix. Will Campbell. People can debate him on
what the upside is. What isn't debatable is he's a
heck of a lot better option than what they were
playing with last year. So you've you've upgraded left tackle.
You've got me a valuable weapon out of the backfield.
Then you go out and you get Kyle Williams, the
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receiver from Washington State who I thought was he was
in the fifties on my list. I think they got
him in the third round. He's going to have a
chance to play right away, and they got an athletic center,
the most athletic center in the draft, and Jared Wilson
out of Georgia. So that's a lot of pieces to
go help Drake May, which I thought was was probably
the quarterback that needed the most help from this draft,
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and I thought he got it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Stug got a leave show here on Fox Supports Radio. Okay,
give me somebody's draft who you didn't like.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
You know, Cincinnati, I just you know, they got some
good players, but you know, I didn't know that the
value was always there with where they were picking to
meet your Night's a good player, but he's a twenty
five year old linebacker with some you know, some coverage limitations.
I just don't think you needed to take him in
the second round. So you know, that one was a
(25:11):
little bit of a little bit of a head scratcher.
Shamar Stewart is, you know, his upside play because he's
got all the traits but doesn't have any production coming
out of Texas A and M. So that's you know,
your first pick. I always like to have that first
pick just be a double off the wall, Doug where
there's no you know, no risk, and to me, just
with the lack of production. There's a little bit of
(25:32):
concern there. So the Bengals won. It's not that they're
bad players. I just didn't love the value where they
got guys.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
No, no, I completely understand that. Any idea if Aaron
Rodgers is going to play football.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Next year, I mean it sure seems like it. I
mean we had Tom went on and he didn't want
to talk about it, but it was almost like a
kind of a sparkle in his eye that you could
see he was thinking that was that was coming in
the future. Here. They sure acted like the way they
drafted that they anticipated they were going to get someone
to come into the quarterback room. So yeah, I mean
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I would I don't know anything if you can go
anything higher than sixty percent on guessing what Aaron Rodgers
is going to do, but I'd say sixty forty. I'll
go sixty forty that he's going to play there.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, what you had. Part of the Shador
thing that's kind of disappointing is we don't we haven't
had a we haven't flushed out the cam Ward fit
what they're building in Tennessee here, we can what are
your expectations for cam Ward in terms of fit with
(26:38):
the offense, what the personnel around him looks like, and
what we should look for in year one.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think they've got a lot more
work to do around him. I think when you look
at him though, and you stack him up in the
division and you look at CJ. Stroud, you look at
Trevor Lawrence, just from a talent standpoint, I think he
can go toe to toe with those guys. So that's
exciting to me that you've got someone with some real
upside there. So I think that's, you know, that's gonna
(27:06):
be big for the future. I just you know, the
offensive line, they did their best to address it. Dan
Moore from Pittsburgh. I thought, man, they overpaid him a
little bit, but you could say they upgraded Zeitler, who
they got to veteran guard I got. You know, they've
got some solid pieces, but I don't know that that's
a top you know, top half of the league offensive line.
(27:28):
And then receiver wise, I love Ridley. Ridley's talented guy.
They drafted a couple of guys and uh In DK
and a Omannor from from Stanford who are just kind
of three four type guys. I don't know. I mean,
to me, it's like you've got Calvin Ridley in a
bunch of threes and fours, like they he's gonna need
more weapons.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's uh, it's kind of similar to the discussion we
just had with Drake. I think his rookie year is
going to be similar to Drake in that you'll see
that you'll see the talent that he's gonna have, but
you're gonna end the year like, oh my gosh, they
got to get this kid a lot of help.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Daniel Jeremiah joining us here on Fox Sports Radio The
Doug Gottlieb Show. Daniel, Doug's having some technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So what we're going to need me?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The host care Let's talk Padres Giants right now?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Ye, let's do. Padres just jumped out to a one
nothing lead. I know, Jason Stewart's probably well, actually it's
kind of a tough one today with the Giants being
the Padres opponent.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
So yeah, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Yes,
so he actually likes the Padres.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And then you add a very complicated thing for me,
Dan and I are in this really cool Survivor league
where you pick a team a week. I picked the
Giants this week. So I'm definitely rooting against the Pods
today for more than one reason.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And it puts me the predicament I think we I mean, look, hey,
we're just my goal is just kind of hang around.
And then I think we're about a week away from
getting Merrill and cronin Worth back. We just got to
rise back, like we're going to start getting healthy and uh,
and it's going to be a fun summer. The NLS
is absolutely loaded.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's amazing. It sends the Rockies, but yeah, those top four.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah wow, yeah, that's tough one. But I mean think
about these like the Diamondbacks, the Giants, that the Dodgers,
the Padres, all of those teams playing each other all
summer long. It's gonna be a great series. The Diamondbacks
are good, and they're what like four and a half
games back or something like that already, like they're it's
a it's a stack division. Doug doesn't ever come back.
We'll just do Potter.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, no, no, we're not doing Podu. I'm right here.
We're not doing any Podre talk. No, we're not not
doing any Padres talk. Stop trying to stop trying to
change the topic. We we want to talk football because
Jay Stu will cut your mic if you keep talking
about baseball. Because I just figured.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I just figured you had a five star on campus
or something right now, and you're like, oh, he just
got here. I got a scoot. You know you're ditching me.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I really appreciate you stopped by our event on Tuesday night,
even though you were told not to do so. We
try not to get you in trouble. Thanks for being
our guests as well.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh you're the best, buddy. Appreciate you all right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
The standard Jeremiah joining us here on the Doug Outlips
Show on Fox s Portraito just again, I'm not trying
to get him in trouble, but I mean, here's how
good a duty is. So we had an event, uh fundraiser,
Frank Caliendo, Dan Patrick, myself, Kyle Rudolph stopped by, who
else A couple others stop by, and I had DJ
had said like I can make it, you know, go
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ahead and tell people, and then the NFL Network's like
your overwork. Too many people were asking no, we shut
you down, and DJ's like, Okay, I'm just gonna steak
in and he was up there for like an hour
answering questions and it was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Eh, it's a Doug Gottlieb show. It's Fox Sports Radio.
Your listen to us now, but you know you can
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get to Dan Viral. Let's get to the press, the press,
(30:57):
d B. What do you have my friend Zug?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I know the pod goes live right after the show,
it does. You and Jason Stewart talking some uniforms. How
about this news from the NFL. If you remember watching
the Draft, there was a portion where the NFL took
out time to talk about rivalries and the rivalries that
they're going to be bringing to the forefront of the
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NFL schedule. With that will come new uniforms for those
special rivalry games. Something that was mentioned, what we found
out this week is that Nike is going to design
uniforms special rivalry uniforms for the AFC East and NFC West.
Those eight teams will get special uniforms to where during
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their rivalry games against their fellow division opponents. Those uniform
designs will be rooted extensively in local community insights during
a single home game against a division rival.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I don't even know what any of that means.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So expect city connect or those or the NBA's version
of the city jerseys. The city connect that Major League
Baseball does. This is now coming to the National Football League.
I am so. I feel like I am so get
off my lawn guy, but.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I am too. I just we'll talk about this more
on the pod. But the New York Nicks are a
historic franchise, having New York and then they had but
the blue New York and then the orange with blue
outline numbers is iconic. Last night in a nationally televised
game against the Detroit Pistons, right, also iconic uniforms. Right.
(32:40):
It doesn't mean they're the best uniforms, but when you
you want to try on your TV and know who's playing,
especially in the playoffs, the NBA has taken it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You've gone too far. Okay, gone too.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Far where they have teams in the playoffs wearing these
alternate uniforms and the same thing for the NFL. Like, look,
I get it once a year, it's fine. But the
end of the day, the Green Bay Packers where I
like the whites, I do. I like the all yellows,
but you know in the in the playoffs, it's either
(33:15):
it's yellow bands and either white tops or green, not
the all whites. And I just playoffs I think are special,
and I do think that there's a like the City
can I. It just seems I get we're trying to
make money. What are we doing.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I didn't mind the color rush. I know people didn't
like it. I didn't mind that on Thursday Night football.
It stayed within the what I felt was the uniform realm.
And I feel like now or the brand realm, and
we're getting outside of that all right. In other news,
the Falcons were fine two hundred and fifty grand Jeff Ulbrich,
their defensive coordinator, docked one hundred thousand dollars after Olbrook's
(33:50):
sun prank Shador Sanders during the NFL draft. Falcons will
not appeal to find neither will Olbrook who says he's
spoken with the Sanders family. They were more than kind
and forgiving on the phone, but still out one hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's steep. And I get that you're trying to make
a statement and make a point, but that's steep. And
I do I feel like we're acting like Shador Sanders
was permanently harmed by it. I don't like the prank.
I don't think it was funny. I think on many
way levels it was cruel.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I just do.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, I'm the same guy who I've seen like
NBA players they walk out to their car and somebody
put popcorn, like filled up their car with popcorn, Like ah,
like yeah, that stuff doesn't get out of leather seats
like deep into it. Like I just I understand that.
But one hundred thousand dollars is ridiculous. That's too much,
too much.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
North Carolina had football coach Bill Belichick released to Staying
through the School, criticizing CBS for their interview that aired
Sunday morning, saying the network used selectively edited clips and
tried to suggest a false narrative. Belichick said any narrative
that his girlfriend Jordan Hudson was trying to control the
conversation is not true, they claimed Belichick did that. They
agreed to do the interview to talk about his new book,
(35:05):
and not things outside of the book. CBS News has
now responded with their own statement, saying, quote, when we
agreed to speak with mister Belichick, it was for a
wide ranging interview. There were no preconditions or limitations to
this conversation. This was confirmed repeatedly with his publisher before
the interview took place and after it was completed. End quote.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
How did you meet? Is not an out of bounds question.
It's a very very, very very normal question. It's the
question that everybody asks any couple. Ever. It's as normal
as if you don't have anything to talk about with
another college tun and you go, hey, what's your major?
(35:45):
How'd you guys meet? It's super normal, right, and the
reaction is what leads people to ask more questions. Had
they simply said, like, met a Starbucks, he was in line,
you know, or blind date with a friend, or met
(36:06):
at a book signing, or I had to feed him
applesauce because his teeth don't work the nearly as longmore, all.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Of these things, Okay, caretaker role.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, totally okay, But when you say we're not talking
about it now, it's like, oh, okay, there's something more
to the story there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Nothing? Yeah, there'd be nothing there but the idea that
they CBS did something wrong, going like, hey, how'd you
guys meet? Hey, we're not going there.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Doug final story. Jets quarterback Jordan Travis, who started at
Florida State but suffered that grewsome leg injury in November
of twenty twenty three, announced today that he's retiring from football,
saying that the rehab process that he went through gave
it everything, but his leg never responded the way that
he and doctors had hoped, so he's decided to retire
(36:58):
for medical reasons.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Hmmm, Okay. I loved him. I thought he was an
awesome player, had an awesome attitude, and yeah, I mean
we always think of guys just bouncing back from these
injuries like that. Sometimes it doesn't happen. That sucks. It
really sucks.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And that's the press that you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That was the press, all right? More NBA games Night.
Will this be the last game of the Lakers season?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I think the answer is yes. Also, the last game
of Houston season, answer is yes. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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Show Fox Sports Radio. Hey, we do the Midway every Wednesday,
(00:23):
middle of the week, middle of the day, middle of
the show, right because we had the one hour podcast
that follows this, and it's usually a discussion where uh,
something outside of the realm, sometimes the sports, sometimes it's not.
It can be music, it could be whatever. I thought
I had the right topic, and then Jay Su just
(00:45):
kind of goes buzzkill on me because he's like, yeah,
everybody's talked about that topic. So Jay Stu, if you
have a better one, you feel free, Dan Byer Sam,
I'll let you guys sort of decide. But I like
the hundred one hundred men versus the gorilla discussion that
has been on the internet and I wasn't aware of
(01:06):
it only because you know, my algorithm is all portal
news and basketball, basketball, basketball, stuff. But my son and
I we're hanging out this weekend and he's like, hey, Dad,
have you seen the big internet question of the weekend.
I was like, no, but I have not. He's like,
it's a gorilla versus one hundred men? Who wins?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And jaysetu. Your whole thing is everybody's done that. Now
we're at like Tuesday, because everybody's done it one day.
That makes it played out.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, it's Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Is it Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And people have been doing it all week? I want
to say our own Cadino and Rich did it at
least Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But that tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was all over my timeline the past twenty four hours.
So I just thought we were away to the party.
But I'm willing to do it. I got takes.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think if you have takes and I have takes,
it's a good one. So let's get to the midway.
It's not getting the middle. It's time for.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The midway.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Do we have any Do we have any understanding of
who started this one hundred men versus guerrilla argument?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't. I'm not sure where it originated from, Sam.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Maybe the TikTok somewhere the TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You said, like, Sam, you're a little bit younger than
us saying the TikTok. Maybe that sounds like Donald Trump,
like I lose the TikTok or Joe Biden that was
on the TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
That's where all these dumb things start. It's on Instagram
or the TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know. Yeah, well last week it was the ice
Bucket challenge thing or but we'd already done that. That's
like five years ago, the ice Bucket Challenge for als. Now,
somebody like we got to come up. We don't necessarily
need to top it, don't need to jump off a
bridge or something, but it should be something different than
ice Bucket yet.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Anyway, shot gpt says this starter than twenty twenty two.
The recent popularity can be traced back to a post
by on former Twitter by dream Chase and Mike, where
you suggested that one hundred dedicated humans could potentially win
a single gorilla fight. As reported by The New York Times, is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Dream chasing Mike a famous guy on on the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Or the X. He might be an egg with three followers.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
He might be he might be various iterations have kind
of popped up over the last few months. Like Covin
and Rich were talking about how many steven A's could
it take to take down Lebron, So there's like this,
how many of one thing could take down another thing?
I also see these weird kind of simulations in my
reels on social media where it's like a thousand dragons
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versus like a million orcs from from Lord of the Ring.
So it's like these random like I don't even know
whop assist with this stuff that he's not saying.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't either, but I do like this. I think
I'm guessing Jaycetu and I have the same philosophy. But
let's go. Let's start with Dan. Okay, Dan, when did
you become First of all, when did you become aware
of the hundred men versus a gorillathon?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It was Sunday or Monday? Yeah, yes, yes, at right time?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, and immediately, what'd you think?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I didn't put much thought to it. Actually it wasn't
necessarily in my wheelhouse. But for the sake of this
of this argument, I have thought about it. I've thought
about a lion versus a wild pack of hyenas, because
I think that that's that's somewhat of a fair comparison
if you're trying to do a one versus ten or twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I actually think that's a really really good one. Yes,
I'll tell you why after you finish, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
So the the thing is is, I think that the
sheer number of men or humans is jarring. But like,
in no way would you have a hundred of them
fighting at the same time. You couldn't get that many
punches in. There would just be too many people. So
my first thought is how many can you send in
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initially to make a dent to wound or limit the
gorilla without completely wasting the rest of the backup around.
So out of one hundred, like, you can't even put
fifty guys, there's not enough. There's not enough room there
to do damage. So then I'm wondering, okay, ten is
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ten enough or would the gorilla wipe out the ten immediately?
And then it just becomes around That's where I started
to think of how do you how do you end
up doing this? How do you have enough men or
women to make an initial initial attack to at least
slow down the gorilla to make any headway in the matter.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
See, I thought you meant with the hyaenas, because the
key to the hyaenas is they tire out. They wait
for the lion to get tired, right, They wait till
they just circle and circle and circle and yeah, and
then you know the lionel the lion will Now, the
lion does not do as much damage as the gorilla
will do, right, because the gorilla can just pull your
(06:25):
arm right off the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It really has opposable thumbs and can grab your head
and rip it off.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes, so in many ways, the girl is more dangerous
than a lion. On the other hand, you have the
intellectual capabilities of man, which we think are better. So
Jase do this is probably what you're thinking, because this
is what I'm thinking, right, is I want to be
Dude ninety seven through one hundred, right, but I want
(06:50):
to be the guy who and because I'm a coach,
I can be the strategy guy, but I can stay
out of the front.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The first You're like, at the end you're like, no, no, no,
I'm in the back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What point you guys we're using, Well, the first ten,
first ten to fifteen, those are all those guys that
are like UFC dude who thinks like I got this,
I got this right. There's a let's roll guy who
thinks like this is his nine to eleven sort of moment.
I'm gonna stand up for mankind like those guys those
first fifteen. They go in and and one their goal
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is they are there for us to observe what the
weaknesses of said gorilla are. And they're but they're mostly
there for them to tire out the gorilla, because at
some point the grill is going to get tired and
that's what we got to strike, or that's when everybody
else has to strike and I can direct them in
a strike case. Is that is that anywhere near what
you were thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Kind of? But I guess I guess I'm just clarify
the entire thing here, Okay, is are we picking which
one's gonna win? Or are we coming up with reasons
how the humans will win.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How humans would win, because otherwise, as you think that,
I mean, one on one or one on five, the gorilla,
the silverback is gonna win.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Can I just say state for the record, I think
one hundred men gets it done easily.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know easily. I think I think hold on,
but here, no, here's here's the problem. Okay, if it's
a real gorilla, you really go after a gorilla, there's
gonna be at least twenty guys that can't handle the
fact that he's gonna rip somebody's head off.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But are like, are we literally count mentality or is
this like this gorilla has to be defeated or else
we all die? Like we get sent off, we get.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Lots of guys are sitting there going like, hey, I
don't want to, but I do it. You know, we're
gonna put three cargo. We'll go, we'll go do it right.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's like brave part at the front of the line.
Those guys just like we got here's this.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, here's what, here's here, here's my thing. Okay. To
answer your question, Sam is have you ever seen the
show What would you Do?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What would you do? And the for people haven't seen it,
the premise of it is like a baby's in a
stroller and it's rolling down a hill and you're sitting
there at a cafe and you see it rolling by.
Normally you'd think I just I grab the baby and
keep them going. But as they show you lots of
people react poorly when they say see things happening. So
(09:26):
every guy, yes, every guy is like, dude, i'd be fine, right,
I'll be all right, Like, yeah, the gorilla's gonna throw
some people around, but I'll be smart and I'll avoid it. Okay,
But have you ever actually seen somebody's head ripped off
of their body?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I have not. I have not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Okay, Well, when you see somebody's head ripped or arm
limb ripped off of your body involuntarily, many people are
going to throw up, pass out, or be or poop
their pants. So I think that's the reality of I
still think that man could pull it off, but it
would take a sensible attack.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Some people would have to be sacrificed. Sorry, guys, it
has to go out.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It has to go in waves.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
There going waves.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Put the braves in the front.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And this is where the hyena was the right one,
because hyenas they just they want to tire you out,
tire you out, and eventually the silver back gets tired out.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Because that's I think. I thought, that's why this whole
thing has been lasting for a few days, is that
it's fifty to fifty. Right, there are people making the
case that the gorilla wins fifty to fifty. Like so,
if you're asking me who's going to win, humans are
going to win for a similar reason, Doug set. But
I'm also going to make references to two key wars
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in our history. Russia won World War Two. And I
know that's controversial with people because we're supposed to hate Russia.
I know our history books probably tell us we want it.
But Russia won World War Two why because they had
ten times more troops, ten times more people to slaughter
than Germany did. They overwhelmed them with numbers. If you
(11:11):
go back to the Civil War, I think it was
General George mcclen McClellan who told Lincoln at some point,
we've been fighting these battles with one hand tied behind
our backs. Why don't we just send ten times more
guys into these battles. That's why I think we would
beat the gorilla, just a sheer mass of numbers and strength.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I mean, you're gonna send five guys to latch onto
each arm of the gorilla. You're gonna try to and
I know that gorilla could probably whip those guys around.
We put enough guys, you can fit enough guys on
each arm, you're gonna weigh down that gorilla, and then
he can't use his most valuable weapon, his resoarch, which
is the strength of his arms and his hands. I mean,
he can bite you, but if you keep his head
(11:55):
and face away from other guys, then that's not gonna
be a problem. But I agree with Jason, and the
reason why the Americans won the Revolutionary War is because
they stopped lining up in lines like the British did,
who had numbers, and just marched straight out the at
the at the at the conflict they would they actually
no pun intended employed gorilla tactics by hiding and doing
(12:16):
be more strategic instead of just marching full mass into
the bloody conflict.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, I I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I do.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I think the I think the humans win pretty easily.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There'll be some there'll be some some bloodshed and.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Some gold the human I don't think the humans win.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Out of one hundred.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yes, you're saying though, that some of them are gonna
chicken out, which okay, let's say fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Chicken out like it's not. Yes, there'll be some people
that will run. There was some people that will run
for the hills. There was people that will be physically ill.
There will be some, There'll be there will be at least,
you know, five or ten that get clipped. When a
gorilla grabs one human throws that human takes out another human,
right like kind of the bowling ball sort of philosophy.
(13:02):
I don't think you understand the strength and power of
a silver backed gorilla and how it compares to and
their level of intelligence.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
They are strong, very strong. We're talking about we're talking
about like if you had five to ten men going
at each limb, or five men, you can't fit that
many grill Like Dan said, you can't see that many
gorillas around. But you you sent and then you start
gouging its eyes, you start kicking it in the crotch maybe,
and you start punching it in the pelvis, And I
think that that girl is going to wear down after
about thirty forty men.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
To Jason's point of who wins, I think on the surface,
one hundred versus one is pretty easy. Yeah, but the
gorilla has basically one plan, and there could be a
variety of plans for the humans, and so many of
those could yeah, could go awry.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, And I actually think there's an expression my best
like plans of mice and men off and go a.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Rye, yes, there you go. You could have Jordan Hudson
just stand on the outside and talk for a while
and then maybe a little just ends it himself.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Little the gorilla to sleep, or he just says, I
don't want to take it.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that.
It's already been discussed.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The gorilla marches out of the interview.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I know, I know this is not the gorilla thing.
But how uncomfortable is the Jordan Hudson thing, Like, so
uncomfortable again?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Just ever there talk his ear off. Don't want no
part of it.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
It's already been undressed on.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
There's so Sam and Jason are on the side of humans.
I think I sided with the gorilla.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I'm with the gorilla as well. Gorilla Team Gorilla. Actually
we all actually want to see this happen.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I don't want to see anyone's head get ripped off.
I will be and and honestly I wouldn't want to
see an animal. That's the problem, yea.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The problem that we don't want to see an animal
get kill. We don't want to get see something, but
we do kind of want to see it.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
The silverback gorilla is an endangered species, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's fun, Yeah, it is. It's so it's like
their habit that's diminishing, like the orangutan.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I know that, I know the habitats maschion. I didn't
know they were in nature.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I'm pretty sure. And so you want them to live
their cool species. You just want to leave them alone.
You want to give them their space, you know, which.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Is why I want to see them rip somebody's head up,
because like, have you seen the movie humans on some
level had to come into them.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Have you seen the movie Congo? It kind of reminds
you of Congo, except they had like these laser guns
that they shot at the gorillas. But they're all these crazy,
like deranged gorillas.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And they delivered the video game.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was a little before my time down up, down, left, right,
left right?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Abba wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That the olymited lives.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Chat GPT says yeh. Silverback gorillas, along with all gorilla species,
are endangered according to the International Union of Conserve, Conservation
and Natures.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh yeah, they're in dangered. That's because me and Dan
Yer are coming.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
With better watch out.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm on you.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would be number one, oh one of the one hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh I have you know? I you know Lena Lane,
text Lane just I'm a team Gorilla. Lane's team Gorilla Doug.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I I just imagine you coming in at the end
like some general after like at the beginning of Apocalypse Now,
He's like, well done, boys, you got the job done.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, no, I have a cigarette. I'll be uh, what
who isn't in Apocalypse now? God? Who is the general with?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Robert Duvall, Robert Duvall was like, smell that love to
smell on Nate Poem in the morning.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Who's our first surf?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's smell? No, he says that smell the gasoline, smell
snake Pop, love the spell an a Palm in the morning,
smells like smells like victory. I love the Spell of
Black Pom in the morning.
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want your your opinion here. You your son's you know young,
so I have a teenage son. DJ. I know you
have teenage sons as as well. Dane Jeremiah joins us
from the NFL Network and uh move the six podcast. Look,
(17:41):
if you're Jeff Olbrich, I mean, obviously it's a bad look.
You feel bad as well, But one hundred thousand dollars
feels really really steep. Am I wrong buyer?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think it's it is for him. I think that
it's warranted though, considering this is confidential information that and
you have to look like you made a stand, So
I think it's warranted.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, there's been the other pranks, even this one, and
going back to last year, and no one's been chased down.
It feels like this is maybe more Schador Sanders centric.
Daniel Jeremiah joins us, we don't need to talk about
what I mean. Obviously, if your son does it, you
go crazy. One hundred thousand dollars feel steep to me,
just does Dejeb.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's a lot of lawns he's going to have to
mow to help pay out one off for Pops. But
I do kind of agree with the message being sent.
This was just kind of a bigger message, and it
wasn't I mean, there was a lot of other people
that got hit with these print calls. I know, like
Riley Leonard got hit with one amongst other people. So
(18:48):
I think it was just kind of like, hey, let's
just send a message and just so people know how.
I'm not saying this is how the Falcons are going
to handle it, but I know of other times, like
you hear stories about individuals being fined and then they're there,
this club ends up kind of making that right, if
you know what I mean, Like in the next contract,
(19:08):
you kind of get a little bump and they kind
of take care of you on that stuff. So I
don't think that the Olbrich family is going to be
missing meals because of the hundred thousand dollars. Fine, but
it's definitely a message sent to the entire league that
we gotta okay, guys, we got to stop this stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Dana Jeremiah. Okay, DJ, what was your EVL
of Schudor Sanders.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean I thought I thought he had he
has a uh. I put him in that potential starter category.
I mean, and he's got to just be in the
right situation. But I thought he had the ability to
start because of the you know, toughness, accuracy, you know,
decision making, all that stuff. Good, like those are positives.
He's just not a big guy. He doesn't have a
(19:55):
huge arm. He's not a great athlete. He's not a
tracy player. So that's gonna first of all, that's going
to limit the number of teams that you're going to fit. Right,
you got to be a point guard, like a crew
point guard style of quarterback, and so when you have
a limited number of pools, you start there and then
you go through the process, and you're not really wanting
to go through the whole process with all the different teams,
(20:17):
and there's teams that was talking to people that said, hey,
if you weren't in the top seven, you weren't going
to get Really he wasn't giving you the time of day.
Like he completely limited himself by by kind of the
way he handled the process. So I think there's a
lot of reasons that come together into why he ended
up going where he went.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Okay, but again, talent wise, where would you have been.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Comfortable talent wise, that would have been comfortable on the
you know, he's a bottom first second round player, Like,
that's where my grade was with him, you know, I
think that was, you know, a legitimate place for him
to go, and then you know, you go, once you
get beyond that first wave, then now you're going to
really start to fall because there's no middle class with quarterbacks.
(21:05):
I thought he was bottom tier upper class, which puts
you in the twenties thirties, is kind of where Migrade
put him. But once you get out of that, there's
just you're not gonna you're not going to find people
in that middle tier. They're just going to say, oh,
you're either in the top tier or you're in the
next you know tier, which is going to put you
in the fourth fifth round.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How does he compare to Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
His tapes more impressive than Dylan Gabriel's. Dylan Gabriel's. You know,
he's undersized guy who makes you know, really good decisions.
You talk about some of the same strengths, but I
mean it's a lot. It's a lot underneath and over
the top, not a lot of intermediate stuff, which is
kind of where the game is played. I think you
(21:49):
see Schador make a lot more bros in that range
than you do see with Gabriel. I think Gabriel to
me was a you know, he's going to be a
valuable backup, who's a great dude, who's going to serve
the starter, and who can have a long career in
that role. You know, you think about guys that are
kind of limited skill set wise, in size wise, guys
(22:09):
like case Keenum, you know that have hung around the
NFL for a long time. That's kind of what I
would put him in that vein.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, professional backup, yep, that's what he is. So but
you've also look, you've been in this league as a
scout cover this league for years now. How does that work?
They got Flacco, they have Gabriel, they have obviously have Shador,
they have Kenny Pickett, and then they still have Deshaun
(22:35):
Watson's contract. You know, how does it work.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I think Flaco is going to be on the team
and he's probably the most likely Week one starter, and
they're going to let the other three duke it out
for two spots with Picket and the two rookies. I
would say it's highly unlikely that a third round pick
is going to get cut just because you don't feel
good about that. It doesn't look good. So that would mean,
you know, Gabriel has a good opportunity there. And then
(23:02):
you start coming down to Shuduur versus Kenny Pickett. If
it's close, Shade will get you know, we'll get the
nod because he's younger, he's cheaper, all those things. So
to me, that's kind of the competition to keep an
eye on all these quarterbacks. Just it's going to be
Kenny Pickett versus shud Or Sanders to see who makes
the team, and Shoudeur Sanders just needed to be close.
(23:24):
I think Kenny Pickett probably has to knock him out
to win to win his job.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's crazy, uh, really interesting stuff. Okay, whose draft did
you really really like?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I love what Patriots?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Did you know?
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I really did? I thought that if you were Drake
May coming into the draft, you knew, gosh, I need
a lot of help. I need, you know, stuff all
over the place. Our offense didn't have anything really to
work with this last year. And you go out and
you get trade Jawn Henderson, who I loved, is a
back who's someone who can catch the heck out of it.
Is also going to be a really good, you know,
(23:58):
pass protector, one of the best it's come out in
a long time. So you take that, you get him
in the mix. Will Campbell. People can debate him on
what the upside is. What isn't debatable is he's a
heck of a lot better option than what they were
playing with last year. So you've you've upgraded left tackle.
You've got me a valuable weapon out of the backfield.
Then you go out and you get Kyle Williams, the
(24:20):
receiver from Washington State who I thought was he was
in the fifties on my list. I think they got
him in the third round. He's going to have a
chance to play right away, and they got an athletic center,
the most athletic center in the draft, and Jared Wilson
out of Georgia. So that's a lot of pieces to
go help Drake May, which I thought was was probably
the quarterback that needed the most help from this draft,
(24:41):
and I thought he got it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Stug got a leave show here on Fox Supports Radio. Okay,
give me somebody's draft who you didn't like.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
You know, Cincinnati, I just you know, they got some
good players, but you know, I didn't know that the
value was always there with where they were picking to
meet your Night's a good player, but he's a twenty
five year old linebacker with some you know, some coverage limitations.
I just don't think you needed to take him in
the second round. So you know, that one was a
(25:11):
little bit of a little bit of a head scratcher.
Shamar Stewart is, you know, his upside play because he's
got all the traits but doesn't have any production coming
out of Texas A and M. So that's you know,
your first pick. I always like to have that first
pick just be a double off the wall, Doug where
there's no you know, no risk, and to me, just
with the lack of production. There's a little bit of
(25:32):
concern there. So the Bengals won. It's not that they're
bad players. I just didn't love the value where they
got guys.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
No, no, I completely understand that. Any idea if Aaron
Rodgers is going to play football.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Next year, I mean it sure seems like it. I
mean we had Tom went on and he didn't want
to talk about it, but it was almost like a
kind of a sparkle in his eye that you could
see he was thinking that was that was coming in
the future. Here. They sure acted like the way they
drafted that they anticipated they were going to get someone
to come into the quarterback room. So yeah, I mean
(26:09):
I would I don't know anything if you can go
anything higher than sixty percent on guessing what Aaron Rodgers
is going to do, but I'd say sixty forty. I'll
go sixty forty that he's going to play there.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, what you had. Part of the Shador
thing that's kind of disappointing is we don't we haven't
had a we haven't flushed out the cam Ward fit
what they're building in Tennessee here, we can what are
your expectations for cam Ward in terms of fit with
(26:38):
the offense, what the personnel around him looks like, and
what we should look for in year one.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think they've got a lot more
work to do around him. I think when you look
at him though, and you stack him up in the
division and you look at CJ. Stroud, you look at
Trevor Lawrence, just from a talent standpoint, I think he
can go toe to toe with those guys. So that's
exciting to me that you've got someone with some real
upside there. So I think that's, you know, that's gonna
(27:06):
be big for the future. I just you know, the
offensive line, they did their best to address it. Dan
Moore from Pittsburgh. I thought, man, they overpaid him a
little bit, but you could say they upgraded Zeitler, who
they got to veteran guard I got. You know, they've
got some solid pieces, but I don't know that that's
a top you know, top half of the league offensive line.
(27:28):
And then receiver wise, I love Ridley. Ridley's talented guy.
They drafted a couple of guys and uh In DK
and a Omannor from from Stanford who are just kind
of three four type guys. I don't know. I mean,
to me, it's like you've got Calvin Ridley in a
bunch of threes and fours, like they he's gonna need
more weapons.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's uh, it's kind of similar to the discussion we
just had with Drake. I think his rookie year is
going to be similar to Drake in that you'll see
that you'll see the talent that he's gonna have, but
you're gonna end the year like, oh my gosh, they
got to get this kid a lot of help.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Daniel Jeremiah joining us here on Fox Sports Radio The
Doug Gottlieb Show. Daniel, Doug's having some technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So what we're going to need me?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The host care Let's talk Padres Giants right now?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Ye, let's do. Padres just jumped out to a one
nothing lead. I know, Jason Stewart's probably well, actually it's
kind of a tough one today with the Giants being
the Padres opponent.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
So yeah, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Yes,
so he actually likes the Padres.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And then you add a very complicated thing for me,
Dan and I are in this really cool Survivor league
where you pick a team a week. I picked the
Giants this week. So I'm definitely rooting against the Pods
today for more than one reason.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And it puts me the predicament I think we I mean, look, hey,
we're just my goal is just kind of hang around.
And then I think we're about a week away from
getting Merrill and cronin Worth back. We just got to
rise back, like we're going to start getting healthy and uh,
and it's going to be a fun summer. The NLS
is absolutely loaded.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's amazing. It sends the Rockies, but yeah, those top four.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah wow, yeah, that's tough one. But I mean think
about these like the Diamondbacks, the Giants, that the Dodgers,
the Padres, all of those teams playing each other all
summer long. It's gonna be a great series. The Diamondbacks
are good, and they're what like four and a half
games back or something like that already, like they're it's
a it's a stack division. Doug doesn't ever come back.
We'll just do Potter.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, no, no, we're not doing Podu. I'm right here.
We're not doing any Podre talk. No, we're not not
doing any Padres talk. Stop trying to stop trying to
change the topic. We we want to talk football because
Jay Stu will cut your mic if you keep talking
about baseball. Because I just figured.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I just figured you had a five star on campus
or something right now, and you're like, oh, he just
got here. I got a scoot. You know you're ditching me.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I really appreciate you stopped by our event on Tuesday night,
even though you were told not to do so. We
try not to get you in trouble. Thanks for being
our guests as well.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh you're the best, buddy. Appreciate you all right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
The standard Jeremiah joining us here on the Doug Outlips
Show on Fox s Portraito just again, I'm not trying
to get him in trouble, but I mean, here's how
good a duty is. So we had an event, uh fundraiser,
Frank Caliendo, Dan Patrick, myself, Kyle Rudolph stopped by, who
else A couple others stop by, and I had DJ
had said like I can make it, you know, go
(30:15):
ahead and tell people, and then the NFL Network's like
your overwork. Too many people were asking no, we shut
you down, and DJ's like, Okay, I'm just gonna steak
in and he was up there for like an hour
answering questions and it was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
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Speaker 1 (30:36):
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get to Dan Viral. Let's get to the press, the press,
(30:57):
d B. What do you have my friend Zug?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I know the pod goes live right after the show,
it does. You and Jason Stewart talking some uniforms. How
about this news from the NFL. If you remember watching
the Draft, there was a portion where the NFL took
out time to talk about rivalries and the rivalries that
they're going to be bringing to the forefront of the
(31:21):
NFL schedule. With that will come new uniforms for those
special rivalry games. Something that was mentioned, what we found
out this week is that Nike is going to design
uniforms special rivalry uniforms for the AFC East and NFC West.
Those eight teams will get special uniforms to where during
(31:43):
their rivalry games against their fellow division opponents. Those uniform
designs will be rooted extensively in local community insights during
a single home game against a division rival.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I don't even know what any of that means.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So expect city connect or those or the NBA's version
of the city jerseys. The city connect that Major League
Baseball does. This is now coming to the National Football League.
I am so. I feel like I am so get
off my lawn guy, but.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I am too. I just we'll talk about this more
on the pod. But the New York Nicks are a
historic franchise, having New York and then they had but
the blue New York and then the orange with blue
outline numbers is iconic. Last night in a nationally televised
game against the Detroit Pistons, right, also iconic uniforms. Right.
(32:40):
It doesn't mean they're the best uniforms, but when you
you want to try on your TV and know who's playing,
especially in the playoffs, the NBA has taken it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You've gone too far. Okay, gone too.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Far where they have teams in the playoffs wearing these
alternate uniforms and the same thing for the NFL. Like, look,
I get it once a year, it's fine. But the
end of the day, the Green Bay Packers where I
like the whites, I do. I like the all yellows,
but you know in the in the playoffs, it's either
(33:15):
it's yellow bands and either white tops or green, not
the all whites. And I just playoffs I think are special,
and I do think that there's a like the City
can I. It just seems I get we're trying to
make money. What are we doing.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I didn't mind the color rush. I know people didn't
like it. I didn't mind that on Thursday Night football.
It stayed within the what I felt was the uniform realm.
And I feel like now or the brand realm, and
we're getting outside of that all right. In other news,
the Falcons were fine two hundred and fifty grand Jeff Ulbrich,
their defensive coordinator, docked one hundred thousand dollars after Olbrook's
(33:50):
sun prank Shador Sanders during the NFL draft. Falcons will
not appeal to find neither will Olbrook who says he's
spoken with the Sanders family. They were more than kind
and forgiving on the phone, but still out one hundred
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's steep. And I get that you're trying to make
a statement and make a point, but that's steep. And
I do I feel like we're acting like Shador Sanders
was permanently harmed by it. I don't like the prank.
I don't think it was funny. I think on many
way levels it was cruel.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I just do.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I mean, I'm the same guy who I've seen like
NBA players they walk out to their car and somebody
put popcorn, like filled up their car with popcorn, Like ah,
like yeah, that stuff doesn't get out of leather seats
like deep into it. Like I just I understand that.
But one hundred thousand dollars is ridiculous. That's too much,
too much.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
North Carolina had football coach Bill Belichick released to Staying
through the School, criticizing CBS for their interview that aired
Sunday morning, saying the network used selectively edited clips and
tried to suggest a false narrative. Belichick said any narrative
that his girlfriend Jordan Hudson was trying to control the
conversation is not true, they claimed Belichick did that. They
agreed to do the interview to talk about his new book,
(35:05):
and not things outside of the book. CBS News has
now responded with their own statement, saying, quote, when we
agreed to speak with mister Belichick, it was for a
wide ranging interview. There were no preconditions or limitations to
this conversation. This was confirmed repeatedly with his publisher before
the interview took place and after it was completed. End quote.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
How did you meet? Is not an out of bounds question.
It's a very very, very very normal question. It's the
question that everybody asks any couple. Ever. It's as normal
as if you don't have anything to talk about with
another college tun and you go, hey, what's your major?
(35:45):
How'd you guys meet? It's super normal, right, and the
reaction is what leads people to ask more questions. Had
they simply said, like, met a Starbucks, he was in line,
you know, or blind date with a friend, or met
(36:06):
at a book signing, or I had to feed him
applesauce because his teeth don't work the nearly as longmore, all.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Of these things, Okay, caretaker role.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, totally okay, But when you say we're not talking
about it now, it's like, oh, okay, there's something more
to the story there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Nothing? Yeah, there'd be nothing there but the idea that
they CBS did something wrong, going like, hey, how'd you
guys meet? Hey, we're not going there.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Doug final story. Jets quarterback Jordan Travis, who started at
Florida State but suffered that grewsome leg injury in November
of twenty twenty three, announced today that he's retiring from football,
saying that the rehab process that he went through gave
it everything, but his leg never responded the way that
he and doctors had hoped, so he's decided to retire
(36:58):
for medical reasons.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Hmmm, Okay. I loved him. I thought he was an
awesome player, had an awesome attitude, and yeah, I mean
we always think of guys just bouncing back from these
injuries like that. Sometimes it doesn't happen. That sucks. It
really sucks.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And that's the press that you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That was the press, all right? More NBA games Night.
Will this be the last game of the Lakers season?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I think the answer is yes. Also, the last game
of Houston season, answer is yes. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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