May 14, 2025 • 39 mins
In this week's installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew talk about the NFL schedule release. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ryan Hollins onto the show to talk about the Nuggets, Jayson Tatum and all of the other headlines around the NBA. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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broadcasts from two spots, sunny southern California, sumn Oaks being
sacked and Green Bay, Wisconsin. Word is absolutely stunning, outside stunning.
And the question is what's there to do? May fourteenth
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Huh, Well, wait on the NFL
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schedule release, which you got these leaks and leaks and
leaks and things you think you know. And then tonight
at seven o'clock Eastern time, I believe the schedule's kind
of fully released for everybody. We had some NBA big
games tonight, big games last night. Lots to discuss Ryan
Hollins joining us in twenty five minutes. But it's the
(01:08):
middle of the day, the middle of the week, and frankly,
this is the middle of our show. We had the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Its hour long.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's after this show. Just type in Doug ottle Beavery
debtline podcasts. So we do something on Wednesdays called the Midway.
He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's time for the Midway.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey Jay stew what is the midway topic?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You dog, I'll take it from here. It's actually the
middle of the month as well, and they celebrate midway
middle of the month, middle of the show, middle of
the day, middle of the week.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
This is the text that I sent out to the
group today, middle of the month. We only have twenty
eight days in May for midway. Is there an NFL
schedule release? Exhaustion? If so, why.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I've been fighting in this battle for the better part
of fifteen years. I've never understood all the hubbub around
schedule release. I've never understood it, but it's become a
massive ordeal. I think more people are starting to gravitate
to the Okay, enough is enough. We know the NFL
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has a schedule release, we know what teams were playing.
I don't know if it needs to be shoved down
our throat. I've been fighting this battle for years and
have been losing. People tell me it's one of the
greatest things to happen in the sports calendar. I've always
disagreed with that, but there just seems to be more
and more people exhausted by it than usual. And maybe
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I'm making that up, and so I wanted to see
what you guys think.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I kind of think you're making it up.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I think there's a morsel of truth there. I mean,
we love the draft. I think most people are, like,
like have more popular than ever. It's it's an event.
But like I'm kind of with Jason here, Like you
follow a team, you know what division they play, and
you know they're obviously you're gonna have the divisional games.
Then you get the fun like you know, divisional games,
of the crossovers and stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
But I just don't seeh I don't see all the hullabaloo.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I don't I don't look at it like I look
at the draft as a lot more content, a lot
more exciting. You know, you see, Okay, the Dolphins are
playing it the forty nine ers like cool.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I don't know. I just I don't get it. I
cond with Jason.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Here for once. Oh go ahead, dog, it's your.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
True No, I well you had you had a cognitive thought.
I just I would say this, I think, Jason, are
you sick of it? Or do you legitimately think other
people are sick of it?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, the first one's definitely true. But it just seems
like I have seen more of the tone on social
media that we've kind of had enough of this, especially
the weeks now today, when all the schedule come out,
you're going to see the excitement of people and their teams,
and I think that's where that's where I lack. I'm
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I cover this as a job. It's content. I don't
have a passion for my NFL team that most people do,
and so it's a big deal for everyone's individual teams
in general. Though from the national media and just the
tone of social media from the influencers.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, that's that's that's where exhaustion. I get it, Okay,
But remember everything in the social media world sucks or
is the greatest effort.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There is actually no.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
In between amplified suckiness amplified greatness.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I truly believe that. So and again, you have a
tendency to just a tendency to get sucked into that
negative right, I think, And you're also in the sports world.
We talk about it a lot. I don't think average
every day. And I also I learned this when I
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was at ESPN. I will credit ESPN with this. People
have always been critical of ESPN people or ESPN programmings
promoting other ESPN programs, And the point was always made
there like, hey, you know, when you're at ESPN, it's
the same at Fox, the same at CBS. It's not
like Fox is going to go like, oh, hey, CBS
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has got something cool coming up, let's tell you about it, right,
And here's the other part. And I can tell you
live at this based upon different shows. Many shows even
within those networks ESPN, CBS, Fox, don't promote right. They
promote like one thing. So my point is for the NFL,
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if they don't promote their games or the release of
their schedule, who's going to? Right, who's going to So
they've made kind of a cottage industry out of something
that was there always and we didn't know that people
actually cared about. Now do people care about it so
much that we should go on the Today Show and say, Hey,
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NBC's got the Super Bowl, let me tell about the
games NBC has no not really, but the constant promotion
and finding different ways to use Like what's the point
of having a media rights deal with every major media
company if you and they all have games, if you
don't let them promote those games and it becomes free
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promotion for the NFL. I actually think it's genius, And
though it wears you out, I think a lot of
that is reflective of the the extra negative from social media.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
The schedule release is like the McRib coming back at McDonald's.
There's a small pocket of people who get very vocal
and excited about it. For for me, I've never had
a McRib. I don't particularly want to try a McRib.
I don't know what it's made out of, possible newspapers
and Jim Matts mixed with meat. So it's like for me,
I don't care. But for a lot of there is. Yes,
they are catering to that group of people that get
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really geeked out over this, but to me, it's the mcrip.
Here's the thing about the leaks too. It's like a
trailer with too much good stuff in it, a movie trailer.
If you see all the good stuff in the trailer,
by the time you actually get to the schedule release,
you're like, ah, I've already seen all that. I saw
the good parts already, so it's like it kind of
I think the leaks are a problem for this.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I'd be amused if, just for fun, they also leaked
out some just randomly mediocre matchups, like we don Titans
against Saints. But personally, to answer your question, Doug, personally,
I'm tired of it. It's like a dripping faucet while
I'm trying to sleep. It's just dripped out for so
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many consecutive days and day parts. I don't think that
sports fans in general have a problem with it, but
I do think to answer your question, it speaks to
a broader issue because what is the tipping point for
being saturated with the NFL? Now, who would have thought
that they would have made the draft a three day
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extravaganza with literally hundreds of thousands of people in the
host city. So I don't think that's the tipping point.
I don't think that's jumping the shark. I don't think
it'll be with an eighteen game schedule, but would it
be with expansion or perhaps overseas expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I think so that was the word I was looking for, oversaturation. Oversaturation.
I guess that's kind of reed in the exhausting time.
So the score on the midway the three to one,
it's getting exhausting.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay again, I I would love to know. And even
if we had Collins, which like they were like, ooh,
can we call it? No?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
No, I thought I meant multiple Colin cowhards.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
You're I thought you met Doug Collins or Chris Collins.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Or the quarterback for the Giants who went through the
Super Bowl Carrie Collin.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, with k I I got a rough day because
of the Raven defense.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I still like plural Colin cowherds. This is Collins. I
continue on.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But if we had call Ins or Colin, uh, you'd
have people go like yeah, like what like? But I
kind of feel like it's an it's an. Are the
NFL networks still the highest of the highest they've ever been,
highest of any major sportslee.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
They can basically do no wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Correct, So telling you what's coming up, promoting their upcoming shows,
like why is this any different than I'll give you exactly? Okay,
here's one Jase, do your your favorite band that's touring
this summer.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Let's see the National.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, the National's tour in the summer.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
The now defunct daily sports newspaper I used to love.
I did too with the box scores.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, it's also a rental car company National.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It is I'm I'm Emerald exec to see guys know, literally,
I walk out now, I walk outside and coming drives
the car.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
For me.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's like AUTONOMU is driving, only you know I have
to pay for My point is, do you know where
they play a Memorial weekend without.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Looking it up?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Negative? Nope.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Was there ever an outlet that would say, hey, like
the National, here's what they're doing this summer.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
No, that's a good point, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What they're doing is simply promoted. I I hear you
on the oversaturation, but we haven't reached that point yet.
And I think I think the big thing is that
outside of a couple weeks of the year, you keep
it at Thursday, Sundays and Mondays. I think where it'll
become too much is if it's like mac football, where
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it's like on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. You're like, Okay, now
it's just really hard for me to watch college football.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
You're right, and right now, it's May, it's mid May.
The NFL just wants you've been going on, right, They
just want you to have the NFL in your mind,
And so we'll forgive the NFL by late August, early
September games are starting. Oh remember when they annoyed us
with schedule release talk back in May. We've forgiven for
that because it's the NFL. We love it, we crave it.
So it'll you know, oversaturation won't lead to people actually
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not tuning in or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I just again, I don't think I hear you, Jason,
and I guess it's like really because it's it's sort
of silly what we're doing, right, Like they leak it out.
It's not a leak, it's a plant. There's a difference
in a leak in.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
A plant, and they're letting it happen.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's drip trip.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Trip trip trip tease teas, got it?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But whatever, Like, why else would you watch the NFL
network on Tuesday, May fourteenth?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Anybody? You wouldn't You wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Hear about Derek Henry's contracts.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I don't know Derek Henry's contract You know who's holding out, like, again,
none of this stuff changes. Do you really want to know?
Would you prefer us to cover Dylan Gabriel and Shador
Sanders and how they threw seven on seven shirts skins?
Of course not so Instead you're like oh, and then
it leads to I think here's what really annoys you,
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Jason is classic schedule guy radio. Well, that's a wind,
that's a loss, that's a lost dog, it's a wind
like that. Just gets super frustrated. We don't know how
healthy anybody would be, what they'll be like. The only
thing I actually find it cool, like what they're playing?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Where when Okay, so international stuff is fine, Yeah, where
do you draw the line?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I think, yeah, I think there's a tipping point with
the international stuff. I mean, in ten years, are they
going to be playing a game on an iceberg in Antarctica?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
The Polar Bowl, the South Pole Showdown?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Sam will be there. He loves when things are freezing.
The Viking is Isaac walked into the studio today and said,
why is it freezing in the studios.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
That's because it was freezing the thermost Sam's a polar bearer.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
The thermostat said sixty nine degrees.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I fell.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I find that to be very comfortable. In Green Bay,
that'd be like a nice summery spring day. But for
these guys, you guys, you guys need to eat a
steak or something and put some fat on that back.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Wait, sixty nine degrees is too cold.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Jason was like rubbing his hands together like he was
into the soup bowl. Oh, I'm gonna get frost byed
up in here. I'm I'm not perspiring, like I'm warm.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I like, I'm going to quote Isaac, is the thermostat broken.
It's sixty nine on a thermostat doesn't doesn't tell me
anything if it's freezing.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It's now seventy three in here, and I'm getting pitted out.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You're getting pitted at me, and you're getting und arms
at your arm pit sweat.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I've been outside of ice rinks warmer than the studio
was this morning.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Isaac grabbed the hand the door handle, and he's like,
it's freezing. I'm like, yeah, it's a metal door handle, Isaac.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I like it when it's called I thought I
read something where every room is supposed to be sixty
five degrees.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Kay, there's a lot of equipment in here that gets warm.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know, yeah, you gotta keep it cool. That, my friends,
is the Midway.
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
Stug Ot Leap Show Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins will
join us around the corner. He's our Fox Sports Radio
NBA analyst. I want to talk about this Aaron Gordon's
second setting the record straight in or Ramona Shelburn piece.
We'll do that in a moment. First, though, let me
get you Isaac Low and Crown get a quick update.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I lo okay. Doug Baltimore Ravens running back Derek Henry's
agreed to a two year, thirty million dollar extension with
twenty five million guaranteed. The NBA today find Golden State's
Draymond Green fifty thousand dollars for making an inappropriate comment
questioning the integrity of game officials during Game three of
the Western Conference semi Finals on Saturday. Tonight at nine
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to thirty Eastern, It's Game five from Minneapolis, with the
Tea Wolves leading the Warriors three games to one. First
at seven Eastern Game five of the Eastern Conference Semi
Finals from Boston, with the Knicks leading the Celtics three
games to one. Busy day in the NHL, the Philadelphia
Flyers hired Rick Tockett as their new head coach. The
Vancouver Canucks promoted assistant coach Adam Foot to be their
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new head coach. The Los Angeles Kings hired Hockey Hall
of Famer Ken Holland as their new general manager. Baseball,
the Minnesota Twins won at Baltimore six to three on
the first game of a doubleheader. It was the Twins'
ninth consecutive victory. The Philadelphia Phillies ended the Saint Louis
Cardinals nine game winning streak two to one of the
first game of a doubleheader. And Reyes Hoskins had five RBI,
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including a home run, in Milwaukee's nine to five victory
at Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Doug back to you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome
to Ryan Hollins. He played ten years in the NBA.
He's the analyst for the Houston Rockets TV network during
the regular seasons. Our Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst all
season long. And Ryan, I just want to give you
a snippet of a story which I'm sure you've read,
and then I want to play for you the Aaron
Gordon sound and then we'll discuss it. So this is
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from Ramona Shelburn, and she wrote a piece of why
the Nuggets title hopes might hinge on the most volatile
player in the NBA. Obviously she meant Russell Westbrook. Apparently,
during Game two of the Clippers series, while David Edelman
was at the the Dais you know, doing his postgame speech,
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there was a heated locker room discussion between Westbrook and
Aaron Gordon. Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook
about his attitude outside the locker room. One player relayed
why Gordon might have done so. He's so mature, he
said of Russell Westbrook. Here's Aaron Gordon last night after loss,
discussing that article.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Really, I don't feel like talking about the game.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Earlier I caught wind of an article that came out,
uh about Russell Westbrook and in our locker room after
game two, which was a completely arbitrary article and pointless
and unnecessary by whoever it was that put it out.
Russ is one of the most talented basketball players that
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has ever played the game of basketball, and quite frankly,
he's been great for us all year long. We're brothers.
We spend more time with our team than we do
with throw our family. Of course, there's gonna be disagreements,
but that conversation wasn't for anybody other than our own
group and the inter like the internal workings of our
locker room. So that article is com just so arbitrary
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and so far from the truth. Russ has been amazing
for us, and not only is he a great basketball player,
but he's a even better human being. And he's gonna
continue to be great for us, and he's gonna make
a huge impact, and he's gonna help us win these
next two games. And that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Ye Okay, Ryan's what's your reaction toll of it?
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Yeah? Man, I think it is sad when those things
get out, but yeah, you can pick up. And I
saw ag said earlier that there was some type of
disagreement or something, but definitely not enough to feel like
the season had been derailed. And you see how competitive
Denver's been. I thought, I'm shocked when they fired Mike Malone.
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I played for Mike. I didn't think that they'd have
even the success they've had here so far. There's been
a group that's kind of, you know, pulled together and
since kind of played all odds against all odds, And
it's intriguing to me even outside of that. I don't
know how you feel, but the whole thing was kind
of tailored that The firing of Michael Malone was essentially
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because he was showing favoritism to Westbrook and they wanted
the other kid to play. And now this kid hadn't
even snipped the floor at the end of the day,
and westbrookins still had some moments, but he's had some
he's done more good than bad at the end of
the day. So I'm intrigued, but I don't I don't
read too much by it. But when stuff kids out
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like that, I'm also a question Who's who's letting it out?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I mean, like, look, I think if you went to
any locker room after a loss in the playoffs, there's
very possibly confrontation, right, Like that's It's one of the things.
I don't know how you feel. You know, you've worked
at a couple of networks I have too. It's honestly
one of the things that I find hard for people
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who are like executives to understand, where if you've been
a coach or a player, you handle confrontation much easier
because it's sort of normal. It's sort of part of
the it's like a job hazard, right, and like you
can actually argue. And by the way, Russell Westbrook can
be immature, it still doesn't mean that you don't like him,
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or he doesn't make your team better, or you know
you want to get rid of him, Like all of
these things can in fact be true. You could have
an argument he can be immature, and yet you can
still like playing with him and think he's he's better
for your team than not having him on your team.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
I think what you drive from there, and obviously we
all know Ramona I've started in the business of Ramona. Yeah,
I think the biggest thing is that remember she said
what she said about the Suns, and obviously Katie said
our locker room is perfectly fine, and it absolutely was not.
It cuts the fire over there. Not to say that
those guys don't like each other, they don't get along,
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but in a basketball sense, you can tell they were
they had mentally checked out at a certain point. So
Ramontena is not wrong for whoever came to me with it.
But what it tells me is that there's still a
camp that is against Russell Westbrook. There's guys that are there.
There's part that's for him there in Denver, and there's
part that you know it probably aren't as fond of
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him or okay with him at the end of the day.
So that that's what I'm driving from that. Or Ramona's
putting something out, it's because somebody came to her with it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Uh yeah, and generally somebody somebody wants it out. It's
it's fascinating. Okay, what about the Nuggets right Uh last
night Oklahoma City late run puts them away. Now the
now they have a three game to two series lead,
right where the Denver was previously in control, they are
not currently in control. What's the likelihood of them coming
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back and taking the series?
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Man, very likely. I'm shaking up my boots if I'm
Oklahoma City, and unfortunately, you know, this could wind up
similar to what we've seen, what we've seen in Houston
and with my rockets it was it was. It was
flipped the other way. But you know, they win game
six at home, and then you're gonna say, with all
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their experience, how do they not go out and get
a Game seven? And you have to feel like hat
salt to okay. See, they played hard, they were scrappy,
they did everything they could defensively against Jokichi was spectacular.
And when you play a game a guy like that,
you want Yolkas to get his buckets and you want
to take the other guys out. You want them to
be uncomfortable. And I thought that Denver's the role players
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around Yokics really got uncomfortable looks when the ball moved
around a corner around the horn. So I do think
that Denver they win game six, I'm gonna favor them
in game seven.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Doug, Yeah, because they've they've been there, They've they've won
those those championship games before, and I think it's interesting. Again,
I'd love your perspective on it, Like I feel like
Oklahoma City has a little bit of and Minnesota has
this too, where they had great ball movement, they run
unbelievable sets, but in the playoffs they have a tendency.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
To just like hear Shay go win us a game.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And it's not that he's not good enough, but it's
not what's made them arguably the best team in the
NBA in the regular season, Like they still haven't figured
out how to be themselves in the play off?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That does that? Is that accurate in any way?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
You're all the way right. It's an evaluation period, you know,
because you can say lou Dort, for example, lou Dort's
had an unbelievable season. But okay, lou Dort, we're gonna
leave you open game six, you worked on your shot,
You gotten all the way to this point. Can you
can you go out and get fifteen to twenty open? Look,
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because that's what we're gonna give you to take away shade.
You know, Hardenstein, are you in a hit? Putting points
on floats in the paint? And he was unbelievable? Uh
In in game five, man, he was electric. I thought
he was the guy that changed the energy. Jay Williams
was got off the bench just throwing a body. I
mean he took he took forty four to the double. Okay,
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that's okay at at the end of the day, But
are you gonna beat me. So, you know, Denver is
gonna present some of those problems and you can't expect
them to shoot the ball as bad as they did.
So I think it's gonna be a good one. But
if I'm Oklahoma City, I gotta win this one. I
gotta take this one. I don't want to see even
though it's gonna be at Okay. See, I don't want
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to see Game seven. But Doug, that's absolutely a thing.
And that's why some of those veterans keep getting paid.
That's why you still see PJ. Tucker on the bench
in New York. He hadn't sniffed a minute. But you know,
if there's moments like this, you kind of know what
you're gonna get out of those guys.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, the real ones do what they do and don't
do anything else, don't step out of their role. Ryan
Holans our guest here in the Doug Outlet Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Do you have a theory on and
it may not be accurate. It feels like guys are
tearing your Achilles tenons more often than they used to.
Do you have a theory as to why?
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Well? The challenge They say that today's NBA is saw
and comparative to what we saw in the eighties and
nineties and even the two thousands, Doug where we played Okay,
yeah we can be faft, but the spacing is there
is much better. It doesn't a way to pair, But
answer your question, it's a battle of nutrition. Can you last?
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And I think that the real equation to winning in
today's NBA, even more so going forward, is can you
play ten eleven, twelve deep during the season so that
you can be fresh. We saw that with Oklahoma City.
That was the game point. They were just more fresh
than Denver. They continue to play minutes to guys that
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you know would push even with their success eleven ten deep,
and that ended up playing out and these guys get
worn down, and you have to be able to sit
a guy down because when you get in a position,
are they to play those minutes? Hey, look at Dontic
just physically wasn't fit to play the minute. So I
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think that it's great for the league. I think that
as you build a roster and you construct your roster,
you've got to be able to trust ten eleven deep.
And I think what happens is it shows in these
moments like this Now oddly enough, Doug, Suddenly enough. What's
crazy is the New York Hits are more healthy right
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now than the Celtics. That was a team that I
thought that had created the kind of baseline for being
able to play. And they've rested Jason Tatum and they
rest Jaylen Brown. They do a lot of that. So
I'm shock that what we did see in the game
from Joe Mizula, and maybe this was a challenge. You
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don't think he went pas seven to eight feet. He
played so tight with that rotation because he couldn't afford
to take his guys out. And maybe Tatum was that
what to play for those minutes or they wore him down.
Unfortunately from our Rockets Kurians that going down after that
game seven. So you know, I guess the challenge would
be he prepared these guys to play seven games of
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forty plus minutes forty two forty four plus minutes, because
that's when you need them, and how do you get there?
But it's an intriguing place for the league. To answer
your question of full Doug, the league is getting older, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, but Jason TAM's only twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
He's only twenty seven, and I like, I get it,
Like you know, KD was in his thirties and Damian
Lillard's in his thirties, right, but de Jontay Murray's not
he towards achilles tendon. Now you have Jason Tatum who's
like just coming into his prime tears is I don't know,
It's just weird to me that it feels like the
acl injuries have always happened. Achilles felt very very rare.
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They feel a little bit more normal now than they
used to.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Maybe these guys aren't putting in the work on their
achilles and ankles. And scientifically, I think I'm not sure.
I'm sure you probably know, is Doug And to quote
fact check me whoever. I think it's like like like
above thirty five or forty, there's some point where the
male achilles tendon goes instead of being more like a
rubber band and then to get stiffer, and that's why
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you see a lot of tears. But you're right for
this to happen with the younger guys, maybe the all
the mobility work is being done with the knees and
the hips and not getting addressed at the ankle. Then
you got to understand too. Do these guys get million
dollars plus shoe deals? Are you taking a shoe deal
that you shouldn't be taken?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know?
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Are you wearing something just because that's what they're given
to you. Are you wearing something because it's what's best
for your feet?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox portrayer, that's the
voice of Ryan Hollins. Why don't NBA players respect Tyrese Halbert?
And I say respect because the overrated thing, Like, I
don't know if he's rated to be overrated, but that
when you vote for a guy, it means like we
don't like it, we don't respect him. Uh, it feels
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that way. And again, if I'm wrong, you tell me,
But it feels like they don't. If so, why would
that be Doug?
Speaker 9 (28:54):
When it's bad, it's bad with Haliburton. He's he's absolutely
non factor in games and he and he can he
can float out there. Let's call it for what it is.
He's he's a thinner guy. He doesn't walk in, he's
not on the All Airport team. He's not a physical guy.
The shot has a bit of a wind up to it.
(29:16):
Look like when you go watch him and we've seen
him several times. You go watch him play, you kind
of question how the shot goes in with all dus
you respect, But Haliburton is a guy who, when he's
at his best, can score in past with elite levels.
Now the elite levels, we got to mention him. Luca
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on his A game, Lebron James on his A game, Okay,
James Harden when he's being the best version of Harden,
Nicole Jokic, I can beat you with the score, beat
with it. There's a handful of guys maybe outside it, Doug,
if you can think of anybody else, let me know.
Calli Burton can do that. I think it's by the looks.
I think it's by the appearance. He's obviously he's a
(29:57):
nice guy. You don't feel like if you were in
a street fight to be pulling Halliburton with you. But
the guy's got another gear that I think in a
lot of people are sleeping on and they're not saying.
And you know, he doesn't just beat you with the
physical play. Halli Burton will make Doug, you love this.
Halliburton will make the kickup pass and it doesn't turn
into assist in the game he'll make the regular play.
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But that boy got that dog and I'm man if
you're Sacramento in the state to Darien Goley, poor kings man,
I was a former king. They're probably going, man, gosh,
we made a mistake. We should have went another direction,
because that guy is really good and he's something that
you can build around.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Ryan, you're the best man. Uh really appreciate you joining us.
Look forward to talk with you more as the playoffs
roll on. Thanks for being our guest on.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
Fox Sports Radio anytime, Doug.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, that's Ryan Hans, our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
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He's ties to Glow and Crown. Let's get to the press,
the press.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
I could if Jason would give me his password, just
like all the other games that I wind up watching.
All right, Doug, we start with the NBA, which today
find Golden State's Draymond Green fifty thousand dollars for making
an inappropriate comment questioning the integrity of the game officials
during Game three of the West Semis on Saturday. Commement
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had to do with the point spread of the game, which,
for the record, was at five and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean that was crazy that he was like
the spreads five, spreads five. Yeah, that's really really really poor,
really poor form.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Gift that just keeps on giving. Now tonight, in Boston,
Game five of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, with the
Celtics leading the New York Knicks three game excuse me,
with the Knicks leading the Boston Celtics three games to one. Now,
there's a statue of legendary Celtics coach Red hour Back
at Boston's Fanuel hall Well. Today, the New York Post
(32:51):
newspaper pulled a prank in which they slipped a Jalen
Brunson Knicks jersey onto the hour Back statue, causing Boston
citizens to be quote steaming hotter than a large cup
of duncan unquote. The Brunson jersey was on the hour
Back statue for ten minutes before security guards demanded its removal,
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claiming that the statue was quote private property unquote.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
There's nothing like New York and Boston.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Just obnoxious people, obnoxious fans, things that take things way
too seriously, but people that are super invested.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I actually love the story.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I actually love it too. I find it interesting that
a quote unquote journalistic outlet and entity is pulling pranks
on the opposite city. I'm wondering if they teach that
in journalism schools. But at the same time, yeah, I
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honestly agree with you on that one. All right, Onto
the National Football League, where Baltimore Ravens running back Derrick
Henry has agreed to a two year, thirty million dollar
extension with twenty five million gear unteed.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So again, running backs are getting re upped. It's a
two year extension. I think Derrick Henry keeps himself in
great shape.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Again.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I just wonder what it does for the running back market.
I think most people thought that common thought is Sakuon Barkley,
you know, is awesome. They tear up his deal, they
give him a new deal, and oh the running back
market changes.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
This doesn't.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
It's a modest increase and it's only two years in length. Now,
he's longer than the tooth. He's been doing it longer.
But it's it is interesting that there's there's not an
increase in length in any of these deals.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Also a big topic of conversation today was the NF
drip drip of its schedule release and today the three
Christmas Day and night matchups have been confirmed, leading off
at one pm Eastern time. But it'll be the Jacksonville
Jaguars at Arizona, just kidding, just kidding. At one pm Eastern,
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it'll be the Dallas Cowboys visiting the Washington Commanders. That
at four thirty Eastern, the Minnesota Vikings hosting the Detroit Lions,
and then finally at eight fifteen Easter in the Kansas
City Chiefs play host to the Denver Broncos. So the
three Christmas Day and Christmas Night matchups have been confirmed.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Okay, so go slowly on the Christmas ones.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
First up, the Washington Commanders hosting the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That Cowboys Redskins, I mean, Cowboys, Commanders whatever on Christmas?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, yes, please all right?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Second game four to thirty Eastern the Minnesota Vikings hosting
the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
And then the night cap at eight fifteen Eastern time
an AFC West matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and
Denver Broncos.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean, I feel like Christmas is canceled for the NBA.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I was just thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
There's yeah. I mean, they got to deal with that
bad boy.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Lebron can finally have the day off.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I mean he he might just to.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Just to be another viewer for this particular game.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Now Christmas for one, I agree.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
I mean, why would the NBA bother with scheduling five
Christmas Day games? At least if you're going to try
and compete on Christmas, at least schedule fewer games. But
I agree with you, Doug.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
We have a.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Final kind of ownership update here the Portland Trailblazers are
for sale. They're put up for sale by the estate
of their late former owner, Paul Allen Well. Today, Phil Knight,
the co founder of Nike, which of course is based
in Oregon, announced that he is not interested in buying
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the Blazers. He said, five years ago, when I was
a younger man, I had a great interest in being
part of the Blazers franchise. However, at my current age,
I can confirm I no longer have interest in acquiring
the team.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Unquote yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Isn't needed by a pro team. He already owns the
University of Oregon. That's his protein.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Boy, Is that the truth?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Baby?
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And on that very expensive note that concludes today's edition,
including red hour back statue being vandalized by.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The men post press, no press.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I see what you did there?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Did I did? All?
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Let's get to tonight's games, shall we, because we oftentimes
I pinched us for time, so we don't have a
time to get into the games. Tonight in the NBA
got New York and Boston out to a five point favorite.
I like the seas I think this is one probably
a blowout for the seas Ja Stu, where are you?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Feels like everyone's on the seas tonight. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Nixt nice ever the contraon Ilo, I'm going next to
Sorry right hour back.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Then a big apple, Sam.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I think the Celtics squeeze one out, but I think
they're done in this series.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Minnesota and Golden State.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Minnesota is a ten and a half point favorite against
the Warios. I am gonna go Golden State. I think
it's closer, although I do think Minnesota closes them out.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Jase dou Yeah, I think the Wolves maul the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
I Loo Wolves claw the Warriors and Dame Draymond Green
does something entertaining.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, oh he get definitely gets thrown out if they're
gonna lose.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
No question, Sam, where's this gaming played?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Minnesota?
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'll take the tea Wolves and ten and a half
uh no timing to win and but not.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
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broadcasts from two spots, sunny southern California, sumn Oaks being
sacked and Green Bay, Wisconsin. Word is absolutely stunning, outside stunning.
And the question is what's there to do? May fourteenth
in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Huh, Well, wait on the NFL
(00:46):
schedule release, which you got these leaks and leaks and
leaks and things you think you know. And then tonight
at seven o'clock Eastern time, I believe the schedule's kind
of fully released for everybody. We had some NBA big
games tonight, big games last night. Lots to discuss Ryan
Hollins joining us in twenty five minutes. But it's the
(01:08):
middle of the day, the middle of the week, and frankly,
this is the middle of our show. We had the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Its hour long.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's after this show. Just type in Doug ottle Beavery
debtline podcasts. So we do something on Wednesdays called the Midway.
He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's time for the Midway.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey Jay stew what is the midway topic?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
You dog, I'll take it from here. It's actually the
middle of the month as well, and they celebrate midway
middle of the month, middle of the show, middle of
the day, middle of the week.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
This is the text that I sent out to the
group today, middle of the month. We only have twenty
eight days in May for midway. Is there an NFL
schedule release? Exhaustion? If so, why.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I've been fighting in this battle for the better part
of fifteen years. I've never understood all the hubbub around
schedule release. I've never understood it, but it's become a
massive ordeal. I think more people are starting to gravitate
to the Okay, enough is enough. We know the NFL
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has a schedule release, we know what teams were playing.
I don't know if it needs to be shoved down
our throat. I've been fighting this battle for years and
have been losing. People tell me it's one of the
greatest things to happen in the sports calendar. I've always
disagreed with that, but there just seems to be more
and more people exhausted by it than usual. And maybe
(02:49):
I'm making that up, and so I wanted to see
what you guys think.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I kind of think you're making it up.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I think there's a morsel of truth there. I mean,
we love the draft. I think most people are, like,
like have more popular than ever. It's it's an event.
But like I'm kind of with Jason here, Like you
follow a team, you know what division they play, and
you know they're obviously you're gonna have the divisional games.
Then you get the fun like you know, divisional games,
of the crossovers and stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
But I just don't seeh I don't see all the hullabaloo.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I don't I don't look at it like I look
at the draft as a lot more content, a lot
more exciting. You know, you see, Okay, the Dolphins are
playing it the forty nine ers like cool.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I don't know. I just I don't get it. I
cond with Jason.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Here for once. Oh go ahead, dog, it's your.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
True No, I well you had you had a cognitive thought.
I just I would say this, I think, Jason, are
you sick of it? Or do you legitimately think other
people are sick of it?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, the first one's definitely true. But it just seems
like I have seen more of the tone on social
media that we've kind of had enough of this, especially
the weeks now today, when all the schedule come out,
you're going to see the excitement of people and their teams,
and I think that's where that's where I lack. I'm
(04:08):
I cover this as a job. It's content. I don't
have a passion for my NFL team that most people do,
and so it's a big deal for everyone's individual teams
in general. Though from the national media and just the
tone of social media from the influencers.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, that's that's that's where exhaustion. I get it, Okay,
But remember everything in the social media world sucks or
is the greatest effort.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There is actually no.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
In between amplified suckiness amplified greatness.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I truly believe that. So and again, you have a
tendency to just a tendency to get sucked into that
negative right, I think, And you're also in the sports world.
We talk about it a lot. I don't think average
every day. And I also I learned this when I
(05:01):
was at ESPN. I will credit ESPN with this. People
have always been critical of ESPN people or ESPN programmings
promoting other ESPN programs, And the point was always made
there like, hey, you know, when you're at ESPN, it's
the same at Fox, the same at CBS. It's not
like Fox is going to go like, oh, hey, CBS
(05:22):
has got something cool coming up, let's tell you about it, right,
And here's the other part. And I can tell you
live at this based upon different shows. Many shows even
within those networks ESPN, CBS, Fox, don't promote right. They
promote like one thing. So my point is for the NFL,
(05:42):
if they don't promote their games or the release of
their schedule, who's going to? Right, who's going to So
they've made kind of a cottage industry out of something
that was there always and we didn't know that people
actually cared about. Now do people care about it so
much that we should go on the Today Show and say, Hey,
(06:04):
NBC's got the Super Bowl, let me tell about the
games NBC has no not really, but the constant promotion
and finding different ways to use Like what's the point
of having a media rights deal with every major media
company if you and they all have games, if you
don't let them promote those games and it becomes free
(06:27):
promotion for the NFL. I actually think it's genius, And
though it wears you out, I think a lot of
that is reflective of the the extra negative from social media.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Doug.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
The schedule release is like the McRib coming back at McDonald's.
There's a small pocket of people who get very vocal
and excited about it. For for me, I've never had
a McRib. I don't particularly want to try a McRib.
I don't know what it's made out of, possible newspapers
and Jim Matts mixed with meat. So it's like for me,
I don't care. But for a lot of there is. Yes,
they are catering to that group of people that get
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really geeked out over this, but to me, it's the mcrip.
Here's the thing about the leaks too. It's like a
trailer with too much good stuff in it, a movie trailer.
If you see all the good stuff in the trailer,
by the time you actually get to the schedule release,
you're like, ah, I've already seen all that. I saw
the good parts already, so it's like it kind of
I think the leaks are a problem for this.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I'd be amused if, just for fun, they also leaked
out some just randomly mediocre matchups, like we don Titans
against Saints. But personally, to answer your question, Doug, personally,
I'm tired of it. It's like a dripping faucet while
I'm trying to sleep. It's just dripped out for so
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many consecutive days and day parts. I don't think that
sports fans in general have a problem with it, but
I do think to answer your question, it speaks to
a broader issue because what is the tipping point for
being saturated with the NFL? Now, who would have thought
that they would have made the draft a three day
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extravaganza with literally hundreds of thousands of people in the
host city. So I don't think that's the tipping point.
I don't think that's jumping the shark. I don't think
it'll be with an eighteen game schedule, but would it
be with expansion or perhaps overseas expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I think so that was the word I was looking for, oversaturation. Oversaturation.
I guess that's kind of reed in the exhausting time.
So the score on the midway the three to one,
it's getting exhausting.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay again, I I would love to know. And even
if we had Collins, which like they were like, ooh,
can we call it? No?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
No, I thought I meant multiple Colin cowhards.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
You're I thought you met Doug Collins or Chris Collins.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Or the quarterback for the Giants who went through the
Super Bowl Carrie Collin.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yeah, with k I I got a rough day because
of the Raven defense.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I still like plural Colin cowherds. This is Collins. I
continue on.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But if we had call Ins or Colin, uh, you'd
have people go like yeah, like what like? But I
kind of feel like it's an it's an. Are the
NFL networks still the highest of the highest they've ever been,
highest of any major sportslee.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
They can basically do no wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Correct, So telling you what's coming up, promoting their upcoming shows,
like why is this any different than I'll give you exactly? Okay,
here's one Jase, do your your favorite band that's touring
this summer.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Let's see the National.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, the National's tour in the summer.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
The now defunct daily sports newspaper I used to love.
I did too with the box scores.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, it's also a rental car company National.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It is I'm I'm Emerald exec to see guys know, literally,
I walk out now, I walk outside and coming drives
the car.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
For me.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's like AUTONOMU is driving, only you know I have
to pay for My point is, do you know where
they play a Memorial weekend without.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Looking it up?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Negative? Nope.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Was there ever an outlet that would say, hey, like
the National, here's what they're doing this summer.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
No, that's a good point, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What they're doing is simply promoted. I I hear you
on the oversaturation, but we haven't reached that point yet.
And I think I think the big thing is that
outside of a couple weeks of the year, you keep
it at Thursday, Sundays and Mondays. I think where it'll
become too much is if it's like mac football, where
(10:48):
it's like on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. You're like, Okay, now
it's just really hard for me to watch college football.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
You're right, and right now, it's May, it's mid May.
The NFL just wants you've been going on, right, They
just want you to have the NFL in your mind,
And so we'll forgive the NFL by late August, early
September games are starting. Oh remember when they annoyed us
with schedule release talk back in May. We've forgiven for
that because it's the NFL. We love it, we crave it.
So it'll you know, oversaturation won't lead to people actually
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not tuning in or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I just again, I don't think I hear you, Jason,
and I guess it's like really because it's it's sort
of silly what we're doing, right, Like they leak it out.
It's not a leak, it's a plant. There's a difference
in a leak in.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
A plant, and they're letting it happen.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's drip trip.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Trip trip trip tease teas, got it?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But whatever, Like, why else would you watch the NFL
network on Tuesday, May fourteenth?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Anybody? You wouldn't You wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Hear about Derek Henry's contracts.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I don't know Derek Henry's contract You know who's holding out, like, again,
none of this stuff changes. Do you really want to know?
Would you prefer us to cover Dylan Gabriel and Shador
Sanders and how they threw seven on seven shirts skins?
Of course not so Instead you're like oh, and then
it leads to I think here's what really annoys you,
(12:19):
Jason is classic schedule guy radio. Well, that's a wind,
that's a loss, that's a lost dog, it's a wind
like that. Just gets super frustrated. We don't know how
healthy anybody would be, what they'll be like. The only
thing I actually find it cool, like what they're playing?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Where when Okay, so international stuff is fine, Yeah, where
do you draw the line?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I think, yeah, I think there's a tipping point with
the international stuff. I mean, in ten years, are they
going to be playing a game on an iceberg in Antarctica?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
The Polar Bowl, the South Pole Showdown?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Sam will be there. He loves when things are freezing.
The Viking is Isaac walked into the studio today and said,
why is it freezing in the studios.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
That's because it was freezing the thermost Sam's a polar bearer.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
The thermostat said sixty nine degrees.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I fell.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I find that to be very comfortable. In Green Bay,
that'd be like a nice summery spring day. But for
these guys, you guys, you guys need to eat a
steak or something and put some fat on that back.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Wait, sixty nine degrees is too cold.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Jason was like rubbing his hands together like he was
into the soup bowl. Oh, I'm gonna get frost byed
up in here. I'm I'm not perspiring, like I'm warm.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I like, I'm going to quote Isaac, is the thermostat broken.
It's sixty nine on a thermostat doesn't doesn't tell me
anything if it's freezing.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It's now seventy three in here, and I'm getting pitted out.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You're getting pitted at me, and you're getting und arms
at your arm pit sweat.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
I've been outside of ice rinks warmer than the studio
was this morning.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Isaac grabbed the hand the door handle, and he's like,
it's freezing. I'm like, yeah, it's a metal door handle, Isaac.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I like it when it's called I thought I
read something where every room is supposed to be sixty
five degrees.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Kay, there's a lot of equipment in here that gets warm.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know, yeah, you gotta keep it cool. That, my friends,
is the Midway.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
Stug Ot Leap Show Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins will
join us around the corner. He's our Fox Sports Radio
NBA analyst. I want to talk about this Aaron Gordon's
second setting the record straight in or Ramona Shelburn piece.
We'll do that in a moment. First, though, let me
get you Isaac Low and Crown get a quick update.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I lo okay. Doug Baltimore Ravens running back Derek Henry's
agreed to a two year, thirty million dollar extension with
twenty five million guaranteed. The NBA today find Golden State's
Draymond Green fifty thousand dollars for making an inappropriate comment
questioning the integrity of game officials during Game three of
the Western Conference semi Finals on Saturday. Tonight at nine
(15:06):
to thirty Eastern, It's Game five from Minneapolis, with the
Tea Wolves leading the Warriors three games to one. First
at seven Eastern Game five of the Eastern Conference Semi
Finals from Boston, with the Knicks leading the Celtics three
games to one. Busy day in the NHL, the Philadelphia
Flyers hired Rick Tockett as their new head coach. The
Vancouver Canucks promoted assistant coach Adam Foot to be their
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new head coach. The Los Angeles Kings hired Hockey Hall
of Famer Ken Holland as their new general manager. Baseball,
the Minnesota Twins won at Baltimore six to three on
the first game of a doubleheader. It was the Twins'
ninth consecutive victory. The Philadelphia Phillies ended the Saint Louis
Cardinals nine game winning streak two to one of the
first game of a doubleheader. And Reyes Hoskins had five RBI,
(15:50):
including a home run, in Milwaukee's nine to five victory
at Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Doug back to you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome
to Ryan Hollins. He played ten years in the NBA.
He's the analyst for the Houston Rockets TV network during
the regular seasons. Our Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst all
season long. And Ryan, I just want to give you
a snippet of a story which I'm sure you've read,
and then I want to play for you the Aaron
Gordon sound and then we'll discuss it. So this is
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from Ramona Shelburn, and she wrote a piece of why
the Nuggets title hopes might hinge on the most volatile
player in the NBA. Obviously she meant Russell Westbrook. Apparently,
during Game two of the Clippers series, while David Edelman
was at the the Dais you know, doing his postgame speech,
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there was a heated locker room discussion between Westbrook and
Aaron Gordon. Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook
about his attitude outside the locker room. One player relayed
why Gordon might have done so. He's so mature, he
said of Russell Westbrook. Here's Aaron Gordon last night after loss,
discussing that article.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Really, I don't feel like talking about the game.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Earlier I caught wind of an article that came out,
uh about Russell Westbrook and in our locker room after
game two, which was a completely arbitrary article and pointless
and unnecessary by whoever it was that put it out.
Russ is one of the most talented basketball players that
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has ever played the game of basketball, and quite frankly,
he's been great for us all year long. We're brothers.
We spend more time with our team than we do
with throw our family. Of course, there's gonna be disagreements,
but that conversation wasn't for anybody other than our own
group and the inter like the internal workings of our
locker room. So that article is com just so arbitrary
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and so far from the truth. Russ has been amazing
for us, and not only is he a great basketball player,
but he's a even better human being. And he's gonna
continue to be great for us, and he's gonna make
a huge impact, and he's gonna help us win these
next two games. And that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Ye Okay, Ryan's what's your reaction toll of it?
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Yeah? Man, I think it is sad when those things
get out, but yeah, you can pick up. And I
saw ag said earlier that there was some type of
disagreement or something, but definitely not enough to feel like
the season had been derailed. And you see how competitive
Denver's been. I thought, I'm shocked when they fired Mike Malone.
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I played for Mike. I didn't think that they'd have
even the success they've had here so far. There's been
a group that's kind of, you know, pulled together and
since kind of played all odds against all odds, And
it's intriguing to me even outside of that. I don't
know how you feel, but the whole thing was kind
of tailored that The firing of Michael Malone was essentially
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because he was showing favoritism to Westbrook and they wanted
the other kid to play. And now this kid hadn't
even snipped the floor at the end of the day,
and westbrookins still had some moments, but he's had some
he's done more good than bad at the end of
the day. So I'm intrigued, but I don't I don't
read too much by it. But when stuff kids out
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like that, I'm also a question Who's who's letting it out?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I mean, like, look, I think if you went to
any locker room after a loss in the playoffs, there's
very possibly confrontation, right, Like that's It's one of the things.
I don't know how you feel. You know, you've worked
at a couple of networks I have too. It's honestly
one of the things that I find hard for people
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who are like executives to understand, where if you've been
a coach or a player, you handle confrontation much easier
because it's sort of normal. It's sort of part of
the it's like a job hazard, right, and like you
can actually argue. And by the way, Russell Westbrook can
be immature, it still doesn't mean that you don't like him,
(19:56):
or he doesn't make your team better, or you know
you want to get rid of him, Like all of
these things can in fact be true. You could have
an argument he can be immature, and yet you can
still like playing with him and think he's he's better
for your team than not having him on your team.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
I think what you drive from there, and obviously we
all know Ramona I've started in the business of Ramona. Yeah,
I think the biggest thing is that remember she said
what she said about the Suns, and obviously Katie said
our locker room is perfectly fine, and it absolutely was not.
It cuts the fire over there. Not to say that
those guys don't like each other, they don't get along,
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but in a basketball sense, you can tell they were
they had mentally checked out at a certain point. So
Ramontena is not wrong for whoever came to me with it.
But what it tells me is that there's still a
camp that is against Russell Westbrook. There's guys that are there.
There's part that's for him there in Denver, and there's
part that you know it probably aren't as fond of
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him or okay with him at the end of the day.
So that that's what I'm driving from that. Or Ramona's
putting something out, it's because somebody came to her with it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Uh yeah, and generally somebody somebody wants it out. It's
it's fascinating. Okay, what about the Nuggets right Uh last
night Oklahoma City late run puts them away. Now the
now they have a three game to two series lead,
right where the Denver was previously in control, they are
not currently in control. What's the likelihood of them coming
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back and taking the series?
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Man, very likely. I'm shaking up my boots if I'm
Oklahoma City, and unfortunately, you know, this could wind up
similar to what we've seen, what we've seen in Houston
and with my rockets it was it was. It was
flipped the other way. But you know, they win game
six at home, and then you're gonna say, with all
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their experience, how do they not go out and get
a Game seven? And you have to feel like hat
salt to okay. See, they played hard, they were scrappy,
they did everything they could defensively against Jokichi was spectacular.
And when you play a game a guy like that,
you want Yolkas to get his buckets and you want
to take the other guys out. You want them to
be uncomfortable. And I thought that Denver's the role players
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around Yokics really got uncomfortable looks when the ball moved
around a corner around the horn. So I do think
that Denver they win game six, I'm gonna favor them
in game seven.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Doug, Yeah, because they've they've been there, They've they've won
those those championship games before, and I think it's interesting. Again,
I'd love your perspective on it, Like I feel like
Oklahoma City has a little bit of and Minnesota has
this too, where they had great ball movement, they run
unbelievable sets, but in the playoffs they have a tendency.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
To just like hear Shay go win us a game.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And it's not that he's not good enough, but it's
not what's made them arguably the best team in the
NBA in the regular season, Like they still haven't figured
out how to be themselves in the play off?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That does that? Is that accurate in any way?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
You're all the way right. It's an evaluation period, you know,
because you can say lou Dort, for example, lou Dort's
had an unbelievable season. But okay, lou Dort, we're gonna
leave you open game six, you worked on your shot,
You gotten all the way to this point. Can you
can you go out and get fifteen to twenty open? Look,
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because that's what we're gonna give you to take away shade.
You know, Hardenstein, are you in a hit? Putting points
on floats in the paint? And he was unbelievable? Uh
In in game five, man, he was electric. I thought
he was the guy that changed the energy. Jay Williams
was got off the bench just throwing a body. I
mean he took he took forty four to the double. Okay,
(23:46):
that's okay at at the end of the day, But
are you gonna beat me. So, you know, Denver is
gonna present some of those problems and you can't expect
them to shoot the ball as bad as they did.
So I think it's gonna be a good one. But
if I'm Oklahoma City, I gotta win this one. I
gotta take this one. I don't want to see even
though it's gonna be at Okay. See, I don't want
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to see Game seven. But Doug, that's absolutely a thing.
And that's why some of those veterans keep getting paid.
That's why you still see PJ. Tucker on the bench
in New York. He hadn't sniffed a minute. But you know,
if there's moments like this, you kind of know what
you're gonna get out of those guys.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, the real ones do what they do and don't
do anything else, don't step out of their role. Ryan
Holans our guest here in the Doug Outlet Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Do you have a theory on and
it may not be accurate. It feels like guys are
tearing your Achilles tenons more often than they used to.
Do you have a theory as to why?
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Well? The challenge They say that today's NBA is saw
and comparative to what we saw in the eighties and
nineties and even the two thousands, Doug where we played Okay,
yeah we can be faft, but the spacing is there
is much better. It doesn't a way to pair, But
answer your question, it's a battle of nutrition. Can you last?
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And I think that the real equation to winning in
today's NBA, even more so going forward, is can you
play ten eleven, twelve deep during the season so that
you can be fresh. We saw that with Oklahoma City.
That was the game point. They were just more fresh
than Denver. They continue to play minutes to guys that
(25:24):
you know would push even with their success eleven ten deep,
and that ended up playing out and these guys get
worn down, and you have to be able to sit
a guy down because when you get in a position,
are they to play those minutes? Hey, look at Dontic
just physically wasn't fit to play the minute. So I
(25:45):
think that it's great for the league. I think that
as you build a roster and you construct your roster,
you've got to be able to trust ten eleven deep.
And I think what happens is it shows in these
moments like this Now oddly enough, Doug, Suddenly enough. What's
crazy is the New York Hits are more healthy right
(26:07):
now than the Celtics. That was a team that I
thought that had created the kind of baseline for being
able to play. And they've rested Jason Tatum and they
rest Jaylen Brown. They do a lot of that. So
I'm shock that what we did see in the game
from Joe Mizula, and maybe this was a challenge. You
(26:27):
don't think he went pas seven to eight feet. He
played so tight with that rotation because he couldn't afford
to take his guys out. And maybe Tatum was that
what to play for those minutes or they wore him down.
Unfortunately from our Rockets Kurians that going down after that
game seven. So you know, I guess the challenge would
be he prepared these guys to play seven games of
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forty plus minutes forty two forty four plus minutes, because
that's when you need them, and how do you get there?
But it's an intriguing place for the league. To answer
your question of full Doug, the league is getting older, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, but Jason TAM's only twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
He's only twenty seven, and I like, I get it,
Like you know, KD was in his thirties and Damian
Lillard's in his thirties, right, but de Jontay Murray's not
he towards achilles tendon. Now you have Jason Tatum who's
like just coming into his prime tears is I don't know,
It's just weird to me that it feels like the
acl injuries have always happened. Achilles felt very very rare.
(27:32):
They feel a little bit more normal now than they
used to.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Maybe these guys aren't putting in the work on their
achilles and ankles. And scientifically, I think I'm not sure.
I'm sure you probably know, is Doug And to quote
fact check me whoever. I think it's like like like
above thirty five or forty, there's some point where the
male achilles tendon goes instead of being more like a
rubber band and then to get stiffer, and that's why
(27:57):
you see a lot of tears. But you're right for
this to happen with the younger guys, maybe the all
the mobility work is being done with the knees and
the hips and not getting addressed at the ankle. Then
you got to understand too. Do these guys get million
dollars plus shoe deals? Are you taking a shoe deal
that you shouldn't be taken?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know?
Speaker 9 (28:17):
Are you wearing something just because that's what they're given
to you. Are you wearing something because it's what's best
for your feet?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox portrayer, that's the
voice of Ryan Hollins. Why don't NBA players respect Tyrese Halbert?
And I say respect because the overrated thing, Like, I
don't know if he's rated to be overrated, but that
when you vote for a guy, it means like we
don't like it, we don't respect him. Uh, it feels
(28:47):
that way. And again, if I'm wrong, you tell me,
But it feels like they don't. If so, why would
that be Doug?
Speaker 9 (28:54):
When it's bad, it's bad with Haliburton. He's he's absolutely
non factor in games and he and he can he
can float out there. Let's call it for what it is.
He's he's a thinner guy. He doesn't walk in, he's
not on the All Airport team. He's not a physical guy.
The shot has a bit of a wind up to it.
(29:16):
Look like when you go watch him and we've seen
him several times. You go watch him play, you kind
of question how the shot goes in with all dus
you respect, But Haliburton is a guy who, when he's
at his best, can score in past with elite levels.
Now the elite levels, we got to mention him. Luca
(29:36):
on his A game, Lebron James on his A game, Okay,
James Harden when he's being the best version of Harden,
Nicole Jokic, I can beat you with the score, beat
with it. There's a handful of guys maybe outside it, Doug,
if you can think of anybody else, let me know.
Calli Burton can do that. I think it's by the looks.
I think it's by the appearance. He's obviously he's a
(29:57):
nice guy. You don't feel like if you were in
a street fight to be pulling Halliburton with you. But
the guy's got another gear that I think in a
lot of people are sleeping on and they're not saying.
And you know, he doesn't just beat you with the
physical play. Halli Burton will make Doug, you love this.
Halliburton will make the kickup pass and it doesn't turn
into assist in the game he'll make the regular play.
(30:19):
But that boy got that dog and I'm man if
you're Sacramento in the state to Darien Goley, poor kings man,
I was a former king. They're probably going, man, gosh,
we made a mistake. We should have went another direction,
because that guy is really good and he's something that
you can build around.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Ryan, you're the best man. Uh really appreciate you joining us.
Look forward to talk with you more as the playoffs
roll on. Thanks for being our guest on.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
Fox Sports Radio anytime, Doug.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, that's Ryan Hans, our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And an it.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
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(31:35):
He's ties to Glow and Crown. Let's get to the press,
the press.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
I could if Jason would give me his password, just
like all the other games that I wind up watching.
All right, Doug, we start with the NBA, which today
find Golden State's Draymond Green fifty thousand dollars for making
an inappropriate comment questioning the integrity of the game officials
during Game three of the West Semis on Saturday. Commement
(32:04):
had to do with the point spread of the game, which,
for the record, was at five and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean that was crazy that he was like
the spreads five, spreads five. Yeah, that's really really really poor,
really poor form.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Gift that just keeps on giving. Now tonight, in Boston,
Game five of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, with the
Celtics leading the New York Knicks three game excuse me,
with the Knicks leading the Boston Celtics three games to one. Now,
there's a statue of legendary Celtics coach Red hour Back
at Boston's Fanuel hall Well. Today, the New York Post
(32:51):
newspaper pulled a prank in which they slipped a Jalen
Brunson Knicks jersey onto the hour Back statue, causing Boston
citizens to be quote steaming hotter than a large cup
of duncan unquote. The Brunson jersey was on the hour
Back statue for ten minutes before security guards demanded its removal,
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claiming that the statue was quote private property unquote.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
There's nothing like New York and Boston.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Just obnoxious people, obnoxious fans, things that take things way
too seriously, but people that are super invested.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I actually love the story.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I actually love it too. I find it interesting that
a quote unquote journalistic outlet and entity is pulling pranks
on the opposite city. I'm wondering if they teach that
in journalism schools. But at the same time, yeah, I
(33:56):
honestly agree with you on that one. All right, Onto
the National Football League, where Baltimore Ravens running back Derrick
Henry has agreed to a two year, thirty million dollar
extension with twenty five million gear unteed.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So again, running backs are getting re upped. It's a
two year extension. I think Derrick Henry keeps himself in
great shape.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Again.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I just wonder what it does for the running back market.
I think most people thought that common thought is Sakuon Barkley,
you know, is awesome. They tear up his deal, they
give him a new deal, and oh the running back
market changes.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
This doesn't.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
It's a modest increase and it's only two years in length. Now,
he's longer than the tooth. He's been doing it longer.
But it's it is interesting that there's there's not an
increase in length in any of these deals.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Also a big topic of conversation today was the NF
drip drip of its schedule release and today the three
Christmas Day and night matchups have been confirmed, leading off
at one pm Eastern time. But it'll be the Jacksonville
Jaguars at Arizona, just kidding, just kidding. At one pm Eastern,
(35:20):
it'll be the Dallas Cowboys visiting the Washington Commanders. That
at four thirty Eastern, the Minnesota Vikings hosting the Detroit Lions,
and then finally at eight fifteen Easter in the Kansas
City Chiefs play host to the Denver Broncos. So the
three Christmas Day and Christmas Night matchups have been confirmed.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Okay, so go slowly on the Christmas ones.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
First up, the Washington Commanders hosting the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That Cowboys Redskins, I mean, Cowboys, Commanders whatever on Christmas?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, yes, please all right?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Second game four to thirty Eastern the Minnesota Vikings hosting
the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
And then the night cap at eight fifteen Eastern time
an AFC West matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and
Denver Broncos.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean, I feel like Christmas is canceled for the NBA.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I was just thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
There's yeah. I mean, they got to deal with that
bad boy.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Lebron can finally have the day off.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I mean he he might just to.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Just to be another viewer for this particular game.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Now Christmas for one, I agree.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
I mean, why would the NBA bother with scheduling five
Christmas Day games? At least if you're going to try
and compete on Christmas, at least schedule fewer games. But
I agree with you, Doug.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
We have a.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Final kind of ownership update here the Portland Trailblazers are
for sale. They're put up for sale by the estate
of their late former owner, Paul Allen Well. Today, Phil Knight,
the co founder of Nike, which of course is based
in Oregon, announced that he is not interested in buying
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the Blazers. He said, five years ago, when I was
a younger man, I had a great interest in being
part of the Blazers franchise. However, at my current age,
I can confirm I no longer have interest in acquiring
the team.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Unquote yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Isn't needed by a pro team. He already owns the
University of Oregon. That's his protein.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Boy, Is that the truth?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Baby?
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And on that very expensive note that concludes today's edition,
including red hour back statue being vandalized by.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The men post press, no press.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I see what you did there?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Did I did? All?
Speaker 9 (37:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Let's get to tonight's games, shall we, because we oftentimes
I pinched us for time, so we don't have a
time to get into the games. Tonight in the NBA
got New York and Boston out to a five point favorite.
I like the seas I think this is one probably
a blowout for the seas Ja Stu, where are you?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Feels like everyone's on the seas tonight. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Nixt nice ever the contraon Ilo, I'm going next to
Sorry right hour back.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Then a big apple, Sam.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I think the Celtics squeeze one out, but I think
they're done in this series.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Minnesota and Golden State.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Minnesota is a ten and a half point favorite against
the Warios. I am gonna go Golden State. I think
it's closer, although I do think Minnesota closes them out.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Jase dou Yeah, I think the Wolves maul the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
I Loo Wolves claw the Warriors and Dame Draymond Green
does something entertaining.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, oh he get definitely gets thrown out if they're
gonna lose.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
No question, Sam, where's this gaming played?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Minnesota?
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'll take the tea Wolves and ten and a half
uh no timing to win and but not.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Cover strong strong analysis there. I always say download the podcast,
or if you download podcast, type in Doug Gottlieb you
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