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May 28, 2025 • 37 mins

In this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss the WNBA's issue as it pertains to allegations made against their fans. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to discuss Aaron Rodgers, Stefon Diggs and all of the other major headlines round the NFL. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through The Press.

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Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's not getting the middle, it's time for the.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Midway.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay there, Jay stew topics.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
What do you want on the group text today? That
exactly none of you responded to I throughout two Uh
for the Midway today, y'all, we could share our thoughts
on inside the NBA as it is its current entity.
Is saying goodbye? Or my preferred topic because there's so

(02:21):
many ways to go with this. Allegations of the hateful
taunts that was found unsubstantiated. How dangerous is this? Has
the damage been done? Should allegations like this go punished
if they are considered false? As per Jesse Smolette found out,

(02:44):
what do you guys like? I mean, we don't have
a female perspective on the show every day, so I
figured maybe that would be good for that.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yea months' let let's let months to choose. Do you
want to choose? Yes, yes, choose.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
I'm going to go with your preferred topic. Then Producer
Jason wisely the preferred topic of these allegations of comments noises.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay, good, I like this topic a lot. Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So the question is right from from Jason that you'd
like you'd like to put out there to the rest
of the show crew and to anybody wants to tweet
us at Gottlieb Show. I g the same is, should
you punish someone who makes up these allegations when the
allegations are clearly false?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know what we should do? You know what we
should do? What? What's the name of the woman analyst
on ESPN that does n B A and w NBA's
at Cheney.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah oom, mackay McKay.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
So can we play this as just some context to
this conversation. Yes, I guess she came out the day
after the allegations. That weird part where the WNBA is like,
we're gonna, we're gonna investigate, and then everybody's like, I
love the investigat It's great that we're investigating this. Hate
has no room in our game. You know that very
inauthentic messaging right after the allegations. Well, I guess this

(04:12):
analyst went on and started to rip on fans of
the fever and how this can't it's can't happen in
the games. Well she kind of had to take things
back on social media yesterday.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
Hey, everybody, I'm sure you've seen the WNBA statement on
the investigation, and I want to address this with the
same energy I did the first time, because if you
really know me, I always try my absolute best to
uplift the WNBA, to celebrate the amazing players, the coaches,
and of course the fans. That is something that is
at the core of everything that I do. But if
you know me, you know I'm not afraid to say

(04:46):
I can do better. I am sorry that my message
was in the heat of the moment, because when I
initially spoke on a topic, it really came from a.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Place of care.

Speaker 8 (04:54):
It was based on firsthand conversations with people very close
to the situation who raised real concent and they told
me what they had experienced, and I felt like it
was important and it was necessary to acknowledge those allegations
and also voice those experiences now in the process, however,
I totally recognize that it may have impacted fans in
a way that I did not intend, and I am sorry.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
People just always forget that words have consequences, huh, Like
the most basic of things. Words have consequences, And I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
People forget that.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
I hope, So I hope that it's that they forget
and it's not just straight up ignoring it. I hope
that it's that they forget. I really do. But I
guess that's me hoping for the best. The only I
just want.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
To know where this came from because I want to
know if, like someone said, you know how people start
talking and egging each other on did somebody go to
Angel Rees and say, did you hear what?

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Did you hear that? And maybe Angel Rees.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Didn't hear anything, but you keep saying that to her
and her surrounding people are like, no, we heard it.
You start to believe it even because you think people
are telling you the truth.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Like I just want The biggest issue with it.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's the biggest issue with this thing is apparently what
happened was it was pulled off of Twitter where somebody
heard them booing and thought they heard something and stop
caring what nobody's think on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Stop it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Nobody cares about you and your conspiracy thoughts. You have
to have common sense. I know it's not that common.
I got it. Okay, I'm fully aware that common sense
is not common. But a WNBA game is not a
place where racial epith racial language is going to be used.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's just not Okay, use your head.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Really, it's the most diverse league in terms of race
and sexuality of any okay, and it's all women. So like,
do you think for one second you have to think logically,
Think logically, Okay, that the league that honestly is fairly

(07:15):
unwelcoming to straight people. And I think that's part of
the discussion over Caitlin Clark. But the league that has
been fighting for attention because hey, in this era of diversity,
in this era where women should be empowered, we have
a women empowered sports league that's been going on for
twenty five years. It's diverse racially, it's the verse religion wise,

(07:38):
it's the verse sexually. You can't get any better. This
is the WNBA is what every university looks for on
their brochure, right, how you got women for all over
different colors. They're beautiful, beautiful, different races, different hairstyles, whatever,
different sexuality.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Like that's every college brochure ever is the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Do you think for one second somebody's gonna be yelling
out something at Caitlin Clark, I mean, not Kaitlin Clark,
or you're not Kaitlin Clark, or at at Angel Reese
and no one's gonna say anything. But this is what
happens when we pay attention to people that don't matter
on X and again, this is where the whole new
Twitter thing lost everybody. It used to be people with
blue checks. You'd earn that blue check based upon your status.

(08:21):
Now you can buy the blue check or you don't
buy the blue check, which I don't right that. You're
just a you're a Twitter handle. You can buy up
followers to make yourself see more important. You're not important.
Stop paying attention to people that aren't important.

Speaker 9 (08:32):
You can buy ads, you can you can take your
take and you can boost it with the ex These
ads on x are so stupid. It's like someone says
something and they're like, yeah, I want to put this
out to the world, so they pay for it to
be uh. Put into your timeline or your feed, and
you're like, I didn't ask for this. It's just money
going to Elon Musk, so he'll just take it and
run with it. It's absurd. It's it's worse X is

(08:56):
worse than Twitter's worse that's ever been. Sorry Elon, but
it's it's a cesspool of bs. That's a different subject.
I guess they cross over a little bit.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
But okay, so Sam, you of everybody here. Actually Montsey's
a big fan too, But you take up for the WNBA.
You take up for Kaitlin Clark. This incident included Kaitlyn Clark.
I will say this. Remember right when it happened and
the WNBA said we're launching an investigation, everybody jumped on board.

(09:27):
They were very supportive of the investigation. Caitlin Clark said,
you know what, it was really loud. I didn't hear anything,
but I'm glad they're investigating the head coach of the
Sky or What's Chicago. Yeah, he said he was too loud.
He didn't hear it. He was coaching. When they went
to Angel Reese and they're like, what did you hear?
She wouldn't say what she heard. And more importantly, she

(09:50):
didn't say I didn't hear anything. She just kind of
left it out there. She added fuel to this investigation.
I'm glad they're investigating. So, Sam, you're you're a big
w NBA guy. What did you think about the way
this played out? You had said initially that the damage
is kind of done already right to the fans of
the fever.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
Yeah, just opening an investigation at all kind of puts
a stain on all of this. I thought at the
beginning that it wouldn't turn up anything, and lo and behold,
it did not turn up anything. Listen, I think, I mean,
I think for a long time a lot of human history, Uh,
women have been the victims of sexual violence, and they're
allowed to obviously like where you post me too movement,

(10:33):
so like women.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Should be believed.

Speaker 9 (10:38):
But there are cases where it's abused, and whether it's
racial taunting or allegations of sexual violence, there's gonna be
bad actors in there. I'm not saying anybody in the
sky did this.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
We just just too much like almost feels like there's
too much gossip involved and you're talking about that.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's the problem with the league.

Speaker 10 (10:57):
It is.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's the problem with the league.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
But that's all problem of this league is they think
everybody's out to get them, and everybody talks.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
You know, it's like nobody, we don't care that much
to be out to get you.

Speaker 9 (11:07):
Apparently wasn't even Angel Reese. It was someone else on
the team who thought they heard something. But I think
I think also though women men's sports, booing heckling is
just more accepted.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And oh stop it, Sam, this is the this is
Mary Monsey. You and I have discussed this before. Okay,
this is the problem with women's sports. You want to
be considered a real legitimate sports enterprise, but you also
want to be protected class.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
So I'm right.

Speaker 9 (11:37):
But saying that I'm saying I'm not saying that they
shouldn't be booed or heckled. I'm just saying that the players.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
They shouldn't be. And the thing is, like, this is
how it is. You want to be a professional athlete.
Booing is part of it. They've never experienced it and
they don't know how to handle it.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
But in reality, like this is normal, and the fact
that they think that they shouldn't get those boos is
kind of silly.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yeah, I'm just saying it.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
Up until this point, in the last two years, men
and men's sports have dealt with booing and heckling more
and they've just moved on with it.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
And it's just because no one was paying attention to
the WNBA way that they are now.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
You know, you're not going to see a lot of
booing and heckling at a field hockey tournament, a women's
field hockey tournament, or like a softball tournament. There's just
not as much of it. So maybe when women encounter
this stuff they take it personally. They don't know how
to react to it. They don't know how to let
it just roll off their shoulders, so it turns into
a whole personal attack thing, and it's just sort of
part of the game of being a professional athlete. Or

(12:30):
people certainly aren't doing female athletes at the Olympics. I
don't think I would hope not. They shouldn't be doing
men either, But there's just not been a lot of
heckling and kind of rough critiquing in women's sports up
until maybe.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Now, right because nobody was really watching, well.

Speaker 9 (12:46):
People are the purists were watching, but they were like
that's smart. Yes, there's a listen, there's different circles mixing
now in the WNBA, there are there are people that
didn't follow women's sports at all, and they just were like, Oh,
Kaitlyn Clark, she's.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, so showstopper. Let's get back to Jason's question. Can
you punish people who make false accusations.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Over the last twenty four hours? The kind of the
right wing influencers, someone who was a host on this
network at some point is in the forefront of this.
They're comparing this to Jesse Smolette. In other words, he
was punished when that thing was determined a hoax and
he made it up to dissuade things like this from happening.

(13:31):
Should there be more messaging from the WNBA today saying
that we're going to punish if things are alleged and
found unfounded.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
I feel like they are getting punished in the court
of public opinion.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, it's gonna be hard to actually punish them.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
I mean, yeah, but I think it's happening. It is happening. Yeah,
it's just not to the degree of the guy.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
But I think that the WNBA, I think Angel Reese,
they're all getting punished by the by the Court of.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Public Yeah, the report coming back and saying we didn't
find anything.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
It's it's embarrassing looking.

Speaker 9 (14:05):
I think the thing with Jesse Smoleette is he hired
two guys like vam up, like this is like a
real plot to make him look better in make him
look like a victim or something. And you know, to
my knowledge, nobody on the sky hired you know, uh,
hecklers to come in and you know what they call
like paid paid protesters Like I don't. I've never believed
in that. I don't think that's a real thing and

(14:26):
certainly not a thing that happened in that Fever game.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
I don't believe Doug.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
If if you're found guilty of creating a hoax and
making an entire fan base, UH have to answer questions
about whether or not they're racist. And and by the way,
it doesn't actually matter that nothing was discovered. There are
people that have predetermined probably prior to this, but this
only becomes confirmation bias that because Indiana perception wise has

(14:56):
a white fan base, more white players play there, they
have to all be racists, right, And all this does
is feed into it. Yes, absolutely, if you can find
out who created this hoax. Punish them, Punish them, and
embarrass them because it's embarrassing how the perception they have
created or that they have given confirmation bias to in
regards to fans in Indiana.

Speaker 9 (15:18):
I just I just want to say, I don't know
if that's even possible, because there's you're you can always
just say, ah, you know, I heard something in the crowd,
and and you know, you're like you kind of have
the benefit of the doubt, Like even if you were wrong,
you said, well, there should be an investigation open, but
I don't have I don't have unequivocal evidence to support this,

(15:39):
but there might be something there, so you should look
into it. So if it comes back with yeah, we
didn't really find anything, nothing came up, that's hard to punish.
That they're calling into people into question, people's motives and
what they're what they're really acting on behalf of I
just I think that they're just going to move on
with this and say, all right, we did this, nothing
came he in your story.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
No, here's what happens. Most people go there's a portion
of people that go up. They're like, here's the boy
who cried wolf with with with the women of the WNBA.
And then there's a percentage of people that are like,
it's just they don't want they don't want to find
the truth. They don't want to find the truth. They
know those fans are racist. You've created more division, not

(16:21):
any sort of cohesion.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
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Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. So, uh, Terry Bradshaw did
he retire yet? Or did Jimmy Johnson retire? Just Jimmy
Johnson retire?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right? Terry did retire? Did not?

Speaker 11 (16:54):
No?

Speaker 9 (16:54):
I believe it's just Jimmy Johnson. I think Terry Bradshaw's
keeping on, keeping on with the NFL coverage.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Okay, Well, he was on a Pittsburgh radio station. He
said this about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
What do you think about possibly Aaron Rodgers being the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's a joke. He should they That is just to
me as a joke. But what are you gonna bring
him in for one year?

Speaker 12 (17:12):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I mean that's not the Steeler's way, right, No, man.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
That guy needs to stay in California and go thank you.
Jew won't bark and whisper through the gods out there.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
One hundred percent. These guys on the show.

Speaker 13 (17:26):
Mister Bradshaw know I'm not a fan of his.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
We've been around each other personally and he was not
a kind person, and now he does not.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I had to go over and introduce myself to him.
He's not. I had to go, hey, hey, Aaron, I'm
Terry Bradshaw.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I know he knows me, but I just felt like
I better tell him who I am and not.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know what, You walk in there and you get
in his presence and you feel like it's gonna start snowing.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Obviously not endearing himself to Aaron Rodgers, who didn't endear
himself to them. I do think there's there's one part
of this I saw earlier today. I'm trying to think
who said it was on a Fox TV show? Who
said earlier today, you know, like Aaron Aaron Rodgers is
embarrassing the Pittsburgh Steelers. We do realize that, oh is

(18:14):
Joy Taylor. Yeah, Joy Taylor said that, And the part
I wanted to jump in and say was like, look,
there's two parts to this. Either, we don't know if
Aaron Rodgers even wants to play, like we make the
assumption that he does, but he's never say like, hey,
I really want to play football. I'm wanna play for
the Pittsburgh Show.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Secondly, if he is missing these days, it's an agreement
that he came to with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
You're not gonna miss OTA's and a team you're gonna
play for unless you said, hey, man, i'll do it.
I just don't want to do OTAs. So I don't
think for one second this is not planned. But I
also think that we're coming to a conclusion that and
I've done this when we come to colusion he's going
to play because we think he's going to play.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And how do we know that?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
We just speculate because well, we all think, well, yeah,
don't you play fooball for Steelers. They need a quarterback
and their defense is going to be good and you
can win a super Bowl. But he doesn't think like you,
and I think Daniel Jeremiah joins us. He's of course
on the NFL network. He's a lead analyst. For the

(19:17):
NFL drafts. He's a co host of Move the Six podcast.
He joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I know we've asked this a lot, but
it is a story. Does Aaron Rodgers play for the
Pittsburgh Steelers this year?

Speaker 12 (19:32):
I still think he does. I Look, I'm of the
belief that the Steelers aren't surprised by anything at this
point in time. And I agree with what you said
and that I'm sure that they have an understanding of
when he was going to announce what he's doing.

Speaker 14 (19:48):
But if they.

Speaker 12 (19:50):
Were, if they had a breaking pointer, or if they
had set even a behind the scenes deadline, I would
have think we had already reached that, and they would
at that point in time say, hey, look we're going forward,
which him the best in life, but we're going to
just go forward. Mason Rudolph, the fact that the Steelers
are quiet to this whole thing leads me to believe,
you know, I think, as YouTube Doug, this is I
think this is most likely done. I just you know,

(20:13):
I think that they're you know, they probably hadn't agreed
upon time schedule, like, hey, I've done this for twenty years.
I don't really need all the off season stuff. I
don't have any interest in that, But me showing up
at training camp with no offseason still going to be
your best option. And I'm guessing at least that the
Steelers felt the same way. So I told you for

(20:34):
over a month now. I don't see how it benefits
him to not announce it or to you know, just
kind of drag this thing out. I don't know how
it benefits them in any way, shape or form. But
I've learned that trying to get inside Aaron Rodgers' head
is probably not a wise.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Move, no question about it. Okay, So what happens with
Kirk Cousins. He's not participating in OTA's huge number. Obviously,
you got to figure out that contract if they're going
to move him.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
What happens with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 12 (21:00):
I still felt like somehow he ends up in Minnesota,
you know, I don't I don't know how that works
or how the you know, the contract situation would work there.
But it just felt like he was so happy there.

Speaker 14 (21:14):
He has a great relationship with Kevin. He could go in.

Speaker 12 (21:16):
There, and I think if he went in there.

Speaker 14 (21:19):
Knowing the situation. It's different.

Speaker 12 (21:21):
People say, well, why would he want to be a
mentor for McCarthy, but he doesn't want to be a
mentor for Pennicks.

Speaker 14 (21:26):
It's totally different. Pennis was a surprise. He didn't sign
up for.

Speaker 12 (21:29):
This would be something he's actually signing.

Speaker 14 (21:31):
Up for to go back to a place where he
can be insurance.

Speaker 12 (21:35):
You know, JJ McCarthy, I don't know how confident I
would be if I was in that organization that he's
going to be healthy enough to run out there for
seventeen weeks. He's not a big guy, he said. You know,
they're obviously coming off of an injury, and you have
a team that's ready to win a Super Bowl. I
wouldn't mind having some insurance of a guy who knows
my system and who's a veteran, and we have a
proof of concept with him in our offense. I could

(21:58):
make a strong case that makes the most sense for everybody.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah. DJ of course, is the lead
analyst in the NFL Draft. You see him in The
Move the Sticks, a podcast that he shares and of
course he's the lead color analyst for the La Chargers
La Chargers Radio Network. I'm sure you've seen the video

(22:25):
of Stefan Diggs, three women around him, he's flirting, and
then he breaks out something out of his pocket. I
think you're the same as me.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't know. Did you know there was a thing
called pink cocaine before today?

Speaker 14 (22:41):
I did not.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
Actually, I mean, you could be making that up and
I would just kind of go along with you on
that front.

Speaker 14 (22:46):
But now that's news. That's news to me.

Speaker 12 (22:49):
Sounds like something out of a movie.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I didn't know you and me both. Okay, So Mike
Brabel addressed it earlier today when he was asked about it.
Here listen to his comments, Oh, well, sorry about that.
Like again, here's Stefan Diggs kind of bounced around coming
off an injury, and.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
The Patriots make a big play for it, like look,
is it end of the world?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Like no, But I point out among the bad looks
is not just the bunch of women pink cocaine. In fact,
he clearly knew he was being filmed and didn't seem
to care. Here's Mike Vrabel earlier today.

Speaker 13 (23:30):
Well, that's something that we're aware of and obviously we
want to make great decisions on and off the field,
and we're hoping that with our time here on the
field today and that when we don't have a script
and we're on the call up periods, that we're making
great decisions. And so the message will be the same
for all our players that we were trying to make
great decisions, and any conversations that I've had with Stefan

(23:52):
or remain between him and I and the club.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, so there was not a great decision, Yeah, right,
that's the translation.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
What the like success for him in New England?

Speaker 14 (24:03):
I don't know that it's extremely high. You know. I
just go back to, you know, if if you.

Speaker 12 (24:10):
Weren't happy and couldn't get along and didn't think, you know,
it could work with Josh Allen. Josh Allen not only
you know, he's an MVP obviously just coming off that
award that maybe the most talented player at the position
we've ever seen, but notoriously like one of the best
dudes ever, like just a great dude. And that didn't

(24:30):
work there, And now you're in a situation where and
I'm I'm bullish on Drake. May I think Drake's gonna
be a good player, but he's not where Josh Allen
is not at this point in time in his career.
And I think Steph Diggs is not anywhere near as good,
you know, talent wise, age wise as he was at
that time. But you know what, players, Doug, the mind
doesn't know that. You know, the body might not be

(24:51):
the same, but the mind still has expectations otherwise. And
I don't think he's going to be good enough that
it's going to demand, you know, funneling the whole offense
through him. And I don't know that he's going to
be happy if that's not the case. So I have
I would use skeptical would be a kind way I
could say it.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, I'm with you. Skeptical would be it.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, especially with with the injuries and with and with
the decline. I don't think there's any other way in
which you can describe it.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Stuck out there?

Speaker 12 (25:24):
Is that the same is pink cocaine and white cocaine?

Speaker 14 (25:27):
Is that just like died?

Speaker 12 (25:28):
Is it all the same stuff or is it like
a different deal.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Let's check in with our resident drug analyst, Sam, Sam,
can you please describe to our guests what pink cocaine apparently.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Is Hello, Daniel Jeremiah. We were looking at this earlier.
Pink cocaine is a cocktail of drugs. It contains like
M D M, a ketamine, it's all kinds. I think
it can change from batch to batch. So it's very volatile,
very dangerous. You don't really know what you're getting.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And I believe Jay Stude labeled as a designer drug. So
I'm not sure if it's if Louis or adult Jay
Gabana or what it is, but it's a designer drug.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
So just to just to summarize, it's it's volatile, it's dangerous,
and you don't know what you're gonna get. Do they
just do they rename it Tanner Scott or are we
going to still just call it?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Hey, tip your weight staff, Hey try the veal. Dan
Jeremiah will be here every week.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I can't believe. I can't believe that a Dodger's reliever
is taking strays and a Stefan Diggs story that was
a reach.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Hey what's hey, DJ? What what was the score of
the Dodger game today? I missed the score right?

Speaker 12 (26:36):
Well, they were winning, they were winning, they were in
a good spot. Kershaw was was dealing with his you know,
eighty seven to eighty nine mile an hour fastball and
got through five Manning's miraculously. They had a nice lead,
and then the Guardians, who have maybe the worst offense
in baseball, touched up their seventy two million dollar reliever
for four runs and won the ball game.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I feel about that Jase too.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
No, Tanner Scott's he's trouble and he does get paid
a lot, and he's got to figure some stuff out.
I'm just gonna blame the last place he pitched for for.
We need to do a lot of correction.

Speaker 14 (27:10):
I mean, you know who Blake. Blake's now won the
sty Young Award for us.

Speaker 12 (27:14):
You guys can't even get him out on the mouth. So,
I mean, I don't know what that says about the
two different organizations and how they handle pitchers, but I mean,
this doesn't sound good.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
We haven't talked a lot about Pete, but Pete takes
over in Vegas and he brings Geno Smith with him,
and like I get, Geno Smith wasn't was way better
than his reputation when he got to Seattle, but Water
did find his level and he's he's fine, right like
last year twenty one and fifteen touchdowns, interceptions, He's fine.

(27:45):
So give him a new contract, bring him in, and
you know, look, they didn't have anybody last year, and
so now you have a placeholder. But what are our
legit expectations of Pete and the Raiders.

Speaker 14 (27:58):
I think they'll be competitive. I think if they can
keep their defensive.

Speaker 12 (28:01):
Front healthy, which they weren't able to do last year.
And you know, obviously the quarterback last year and the
offense last year was always going to be a concern.
But I did think the defense would be would be better.
But when you can't you know, when you can't keep
Wilkins and Max Crossby healthy, that's you know, that's a problem.
So I think if they can keep that defensive front healthy,
I think that makes them a much better defense.

Speaker 14 (28:23):
And if they just get.

Speaker 12 (28:24):
Kind of stable quarterback play, which Geno should you know, provide.

Speaker 14 (28:28):
I don't think it's going to be heart shattering, but.

Speaker 12 (28:29):
It's going to be better than what they had, and
it's going to be a little bit more predictable and
and usable, I should say so, I, Doug, I think
everything goes perfect for them. They're a game over five hundred.
I think if if you know, everything kind of has
the normal ebbs and flows of a season, you're talking
about a game or two under five hundred. But that's

(28:50):
kind of where I see that with that ball club.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know, most people around here thought Jaw and Alexander
gone just figure have been gone. Hey, now there's a
report of a restructured contract offer because they didn't go
defensive back in the draft as heavy as people thought
they would go. Uh does that work? Does bringing back
a guy who everybody thought was gone, who's talented, outspoken, bright,

(29:16):
does that work?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
In your mind?

Speaker 12 (29:19):
I think it can work. You know, I don't have
the names off the top of my head. You know,
I have to go back and look at it. But
I know there's been a pass where guys have been disgruntled,
they've wanted out, they've come back, and you know they've
they've found a way to make it beneficial for both
vam Man for the team to make it work. So
you know, I think that's possible. I also think I

(29:41):
think we're going to see another wave of trade once.

Speaker 14 (29:43):
We get to June.

Speaker 12 (29:45):
You know, that's from a contract situation standpoint, not talking
about with him specifically, but I know some others. You know,
I'm quite sure there's some trade with other players around.

Speaker 14 (29:55):
The league that have that have been agreed to that teams.

Speaker 12 (29:58):
Have held off until we get to that date.

Speaker 14 (30:00):
So I think we'll see, we'll see some movement.

Speaker 12 (30:02):
And I think if he makes it that he's still
on the team, you know, ten days from now, then
I think it's you know, it's it's got to be
a situation where they both try and make the best
of it benefits both of them to do so.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Do you have anybody in Cleveland.

Speaker 12 (30:18):
I do not have I do not have any sources
in Cleveland, but I know that it is the I
guess we are in the documenting and tabulating practice stats
portion of the offseason in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, how how does that feel to you?

Speaker 12 (30:36):
I can go back, I can go back year after
year and show you videos and texts from GMS with
practice clip with opinions on players, you know, some of
most the vast majority of them being the hype machine.

Speaker 14 (30:52):
You know, like this is going to be.

Speaker 12 (30:53):
This guy's unbelievable look at this throw, look at his
catch for MENI camp and then you know it doesn't
necessarily always have great correlations. So I've stopped paying attention
to this stuff in the spring and even you know,
into some of the early portion of training camps. Let's
get let's get the preseason, and even that can be
a liar. Let's you know, let's don't just just don't

(31:15):
go overboard during the time here. It's a cautionary cautionary
tale there. Don't do that to yourself. I've done it
before and it's not a.

Speaker 14 (31:21):
Good way to go.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
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Speaker 12 (31:29):
DJ.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
We'll see right now the Dodger's up one nothing on
the Marlins. We'll go an update from Monsey in a second.
Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 14 (31:35):
Appreciate you. Anybody.

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Speaker 6 (32:28):
Months Well, coach, we've got some sound of Caleb Williams
addressing for the first time that report that came out
that he wanted to be drafted by the Vikings and
that he even debating, debated trashing in Chicago to force
you know, the bear's hand. Well, finally speaking to the
media for the first time. This is a little bit
of what he had to say.

Speaker 10 (32:48):
I had a good visit at the other place Minnesota
with Ken O'Connell, good staff and all of that. Obviously,
he just won Coach of the Year award and things
like that. So but something that keeps getting lost, something
that keeps getting I think not being addressed. The way
it needs to be is the fact that you know,
I went on that visit, first came here, and then

(33:10):
after I came here. It was a deliberate answer and
determined answer that I had us that I wanted to
come here.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
And he had more to say about Chicago through all
of you.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
Know, what was you know, going on through all of
what happened and you know, last year and in previous years.
I think that was enticing. I think that was something
that was was was glaring to me that you know,
I wanted to come here and you know, be the
guy and be a part and be a reason on
why you know, Chicago Bears turned this thing around. So
that last thing that was said and all of that,

(33:42):
I think was the most important thing is that I
wanted to be here, that I love being here. I
love my teammates, you know, I love all the people
that that got me here.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Caleb Williams loves Chicago coach.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Look, it felt authentic, it felt real, But it's still
damage controllers. I mean, damage is really you know, but
you know what they all get when you win games.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
It's true, not right.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
He reminds me of that that that famous notorious scene
with chevy Chase in the doctor's office with in Fletch
and chevy Chase is trying to bs his way through
and the Doctor's like old uh and or Margaret yep
uh huh. Shame how it ended. Huh she was dying

(34:23):
for years. Yeah, but at the very ending, that was
very saturday, very very ending. So Caleb Williams wanted to
go to the Bears when he most had to be
a Bear, and he's most compelled after he was drafted
and contractually obligated to play for the Bears. He wanted
to be a Bear. He wants everyone to know that,

(34:45):
all right, all.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
Right, So it's being of the NFL.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Travis Hunter will he won't he When it comes to
playing offense and defense. Liam Cohen had a little bit
of that today.

Speaker 11 (34:56):
We won't put him in that situation to have him
do that, although I'm sure he'd probably want to. He
still meets defensively every day that he's on offense, so
he's getting the mental part of it and being able
to catch up on some of the communication, some of
the corrections off the film from the defensive side of
the ball. So he's getting a lot of the mental

(35:18):
and it would probably be unfair to put him out
on the grass and do both and ask him to
go do that and see success.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
What do you make of that?

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Coach?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Feels like he's not playing offense.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
We're playing not playing defense.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Yeah, defense, it seems that way. But at least he's
getting the mental all right, coach, We're moving on to
baseball here. Yes, the Dodgers lost today. I'm not happy
about it. Guardians, they win it seven to four. But
Clayton Kershaw, coach, he pitched five Indians, gave up six HiT's,
one earned run.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
And he had three strikeouts. So you know what that means.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
He is at two thousand, nine hundred and seventy four strikeouts.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
I don't care if he gives up ten runs. I
need him to go out here.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
And reach three thousand strikeouts because we may never see
this again.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's crazy. Crazy. We're on strikeout watch. Huh.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
We are a strikeout watch twenty six away.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I'm in.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
I'm in, I mean, and I really do think like
we may not see this any time again.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Garrett Cole is kind of close, but you know he's
dead with his arm issue right now, so he's not
even playing. There's one more that's kind of close, but
still like he he may be a dying breed that
we are seeing.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
And I again, I don't care.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
And you did talk about this already, Mike Rabel timed
out Stefan.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
Diggs and and him being on the boat.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
But I gotta ask you, coach, you think Bill Belichick
would have already cut him after that video came out?
Is that the biggest difference here between my Rabel and
Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean, like, look, Belichick put up with a lot
of nonsense from a lot of guys. You know, I
don't think so there would have been a little bit
of due process there and try to figure out what's what.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
But I don't know. They will test you. They will
test you, of course.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Now his girlfriend, but I'll be like, yeah, I know
all about that pink cocaine stuff.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
You know, she absolutely did. I think she did. There's
no way.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
But like you said we discussed earlier, you had to
listen to the podcast if you know this to low show.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
There was just so much going on in that video.
It like wasn't one thing.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
There's a lot calling on and that's the press.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Coach, Hey, you get out there and pressed.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
That was the press, Is anybody like an upset tonight
in Oklahoma City? Monsey Jay Stu Sam eight and a
half points the line.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Really wow, wow? No, you come on, Anthony Edwards, get
out there.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I think I think there's an upset tonight. All right,
they forced the game six. Maybe it's just me being helpful.
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