August 6, 2025 • 38 mins
In this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew talk about the great interviewers. Doug weighs in on the latest situation out of Cowboys camp where Jerry Jones told a story about a handshake deal. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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It's a Wednesday. It is a game week Wednesday, right
because we got football games are gonna be played. Every
NFL team will have had a preseason game by the
time we get By the time we get back to
you Monday, everyone will have played again, every single one.
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So it's a little bit different Wednesday. We got a
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the show. We it's the middle of the week of
the day. Heck, if you count our podcasts the middle
of our show, let's buy the midway. He's not getting
the middle with you. It's time for the Midway. Okay, guys,
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whole cruise here Jase Tuo, Iowa, Sam dan Byer and myself.
So here's what I want to do. I tweeted out
earlier today with Howard Stern and his show, I never
gets canceled his shows, he didn't get re upped. I
who knows. And I would love Jace Dou, I would
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love for you to share what you showed me when
you knew this was coming two days ago and I
didn't hear it. I didn't know. But I just want
to talk about who does what best because I think
that that Stern the bits are what made him famous,
right the Bubba Buie and you know, a lot of
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the nudities and it wasn't even sexual innuendo. Like I thought.
The show got a lot less clever when he went
off of Trust Your Radio because they were just things
you could just say whatever you wanted to say. But
I thought when he got off of Trust Your Radio,
he showed incredible chops as the interviewer. And I bring
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it up because I love the way he takes people
through telling their story and learns things about them. And
what I tweeted was that Howard Shurn's the best long
form interviewer. I think Dan Patrick's the best in sports radio.
And what happens is you have people that are frankly
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not very smart or don't understand the profession. It doesn't
mean that Dan is the perfect radio host or the
best radio host. I think the best thing he does
is interview people's he listens. He's unbelievably quick. Everybody knows him,
so there's kind of automack respect given to him. But
he's he's great with with how he does it. And
(03:02):
when you're doing it live on radio, it's a skill
as opposed to you know, when you have you can
not take breaks for an hour and you'r Howard Stern,
it's a different skill. Is there anybody else you, guys
would throw in that mix of best interviewers?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Are we talking? Because there's some television ones that that
I think stand.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Out radio audio? Let's just do audio.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, guys, then I'm I'm out. I'm at.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You don't listen to sports radio or or or talk
radio or satellite radio?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
U No, not satellite. I don't have satellite radio, so
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Are you anymore? Jay ste Do you any other any
other and others you would like to volunteer their names
for Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Joe Rogan can hold a listener's attention for a three
hour sit down interview. I think that there's a there's
something to the way he interviews that makes people comfortable
enough to give him stuff. There's also a lot of
great opinion within that. So I told everybody who I
(04:25):
I was in my orbit. I know, I told you
leading up to the election. I said I would if
I were you listen to Trump's interview with Rogan. And
automatically people are like, I've never listened to anything that
Trump does, and I said no. Within the questions that
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Joe Rogan asks, he does a great job of laying
out why people are so frustrated with the left and
if you want to be educated as to why people
are frustrated with your side of the aisle. I think
it's a great interview. It's an educationtional interview, and I
think that's what Joe offers. I think he gets great
answers in conversation and then you also get a great
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handful of his opinion within the interviews. I don't know
if anyone does it better.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Sam, Yeah, I had two names that are do TV
or specials? I guess Graham ben Singer in Depth with
Graham Bensinger and David Letterman's new show My Next Guest
needs no introduction.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
See I would say this about Ben ben Singer, Yes,
is he does? He gets some good stuff? Do you guys?
Have you guys ever heard his process?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But I got hired away from Jim Rome in twenty fourteen,
and Graham Bensinger hired me away from him. I was
an intricate part of his booking process for eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, so take people through what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Graham has a very high standard for who he interviews,
and once he does get those interviews, every single guest
needs to have five phoners booked to talk about the
guest's life. So not only are you booking the actual
principal interview, you're booking the five most important people in
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that in their life to spend twenty minutes on the
phone with Graham Benzinger, Wow, to get information on the guest.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And then doesn't he do doesn't he spend like a
week with.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The guests no lives in their poolhouse? I because I
had spends the summer.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Because my old producer, Adam Klug, he was offered a
job to be his field producer and he said him yeah,
and he said that, like the whole thing was like, yeah,
it's not just his is coming into an interview, like
he wants to really know you and spend time. And
he spends I don't know if it was a week
or whatever, but it's like a substantial amount of time
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just hanging out with you, and then there's a couple
of different inns that they do. It's not just like
one sit down.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
That's a good process because yeah, you're getting that access,
you're getting a comfort level at that point.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Once you're that's I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But here's the thing. Okay, and I think Brogan, I
haven't listened to a full Rogan I'm just be honest, never.
I've listened to long clips of it. And I think
he gets fascinating people. I think really Stern was the
birthplace of these kind of long form interviews on podcasts
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or audio or whatever. Okay, there's magic to what Dan
does because when you do it and it's like let's
let people in behind the curtain. I think he does
most of his live now at ESPN. He used to
do him a lot of times after the show, and
then they would cut it up, and so a thirty
minute would become eight minutes, and it was eight minutes
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of absolute gold. I think doing it live on the
radio eight twelve minutes is or in person, the way
he does it, it's unbelievable. It's really difficult. I do
think that Rogan and sterned right, you're still in person
and you got to take people down a path. I'll
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tell you somebody who gets a lot of credit on
social media and you work for I don't think is
in that. But it's because I know the process. I
think there's a lot of research done within it is Rome, right.
Rome's whole thing is he he has a producer prep him.
He is a vociferous reader. Again, you tell me if
I'm wrong, Jay Stu. And what he does is he
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finds his story that he thinks everybody will be fascinated by,
and then he walks you to the path of that story.
And what I've been told was Jim Row doesn't ask
a question he doesn't already know the answer to, right,
but it may not everybody else might not know that answer.
And so when he hears it, he makes it sound
like it's the first time. It's kind of it's a
little magical. And how he does it I just process wise.
(08:55):
I like Dan style, which kind of I sort of adopted,
which is like, I asked things that I want to
know and see where they take me. But Rome's in
any conversation, because you know, his most famous one was
Jim Everett. But okay, and.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
By the way, I'm I think you're asking me to
verify that or or I disagree. All right, So so
Jim does everything you just said. But here's the genius
in any interview. Any good interviewer is really good at listening.
But he's best. The best parts of Jim Rome's interviews
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are follow ups to answers already given. So you you
are half right. He doesn't ask a question initially unless
he knows the answer, but he's got to follow based
on that answer. And to me, that's the genius of
any interview. If you could prove to me that you're listening,
that goes along with me, If I could hear the
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work that you put into it, that goes along the
way with me personally.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think I'm I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think you prove you're listening intently if you're asking
good follow up questions in the moment that maybe you
didn't plan for. I think a lot of these guys
they can relate, They have empathy, and they're calm. There's
a calmness to like a Graham Benzinger. There's a calmness
to a Joe Rogan. There's a calmness to a Howard
Stern and Dan Patrick. And it puts their guest cities too.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't think. I think here's why the Dan, the
Stern and the Rogan things work more than best thing
for works I personally, because they're known for something else
and they were on TV when we were kids, right,
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I mean, is there anyone alive who watches sports that
didn't watch Keith and Dan Sports Center that's like thirty
or over right. It's a little different now because he's
older now, right, but a lot of his guests are older,
and those guys they just they there's just a different
respect comfort whatever. They understand their humor. I think Rome
has a little bit of that. Obviously, once he left ESPN,
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it got a little sort of it changed in terms
of people's knowledge of him, I think sports radio guys.
But Joe Rogan has been on television. You go back
to fear factor since I was in what was that
we were in college at the time, jayse do, I'm
thinking right like he's and now obviously he's around UFC,
so there's a knowledge and a comfort with that. And
(11:33):
I would say Stern has He's been a big name forever.
His show has been big forever. And though even though
he went off trust for radio, I think the one
thing that probably he had the movie and then he
was on which one of those variety shows. Is he
on America's Got Talent?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, America's got talent. And by the way, since you
tease it, I'll pay off the tease. So I have
a text chain with buddies that are in the industry,
and do is talk crap about talent. That's that's That's
the gist of the uh of the group text. And
then Howard Stern two days ago said out loud that
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he no longer wants Trump voters listening to his show.
I sent a text to the group text saying this
obviously means he's not re upping with serious exam because
that comment goes against every every single thing that we
were brought up to believe in broadcasting. Do not alienate
half your listening audience. So then the next day there's
(12:33):
a report that his deal is up and he's likely
not reupping with serious ExM So when I heard that
two days ago, I don't want Trump voters listening to
my show. I said, yeah, I take that with a
grain of salt. He's obviously coming from a place of empowerment.
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He's got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank.
If he stopped doing it today, he'd be fine. Much
different than say, like a Pat McAfee's saying that, who's
trying to get to the top.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Good point. It's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I have another name throw out there, go back in
the sports world. I always thought this was his best
strength of his show was doing the interviews, and not
always with sports people, sometimes the actors. Rich Eisen, I
think is a good interviewer. I think that other parts
of his show, maybe you mean some of the criticism
or like the critiquing in his monologues or not, you know,
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not always super sharpened. Well, he has he has business
interested you know, he can't be super critical of certain
entities because he might, you know, work for them. But
he is a very good interviewer and I've always enjoyed
his interviews. I always thought he his voice, has a
calm sounding voice, and does a great job interviewing anybody
from sports or outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah. I think his his desire to do outside of
sports really is what's pushed him. I think he is
really good. He is really knowledgeable, and he he does
this certain thing where he kind of takes you down
the path of what their what their life was like,
and and those major moments. That's a good one. That's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I really wish Bob Costas would do a podcast. I
really would do. He's my favorite of all time.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. And and you know who's who is
actually great as well was Tarico was really good when
he had a show. Tarrico's issue was that he would
never get he would never tackle anything negative, perceived negative
or whatever. Would just like if somebody's like, yeah, I
want to stay away from that, Like all right, we're
not asking he.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And what's the word not impersonates, but he to me
represents everything vanilla in our business. He's nothing Edgy at
all about Tarico other than his personal.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Life talk about thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I think I think that's okay. People have certain lanes
that they stay in. That's just their brand, you know. Yes,
And there's a big enough tent out there. The world
is big enough to have all these people under it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
If you want to go to a hard hitting, hitting interview,
you go to someone else. If you want maybe something
that's more positive and on in on the script, it's Tarico.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think he does a very good job. I think
one constant that we're hearing in a lot of these
or these these interviewers get amazing guests and and also
the true like feeling is what about when the guest
isn't something that maybe you know about or know of.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yes, that that's when you're really good. Yes, that's when
you're really good.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Like you're you're bringing this guest's like, you know, presence
and role in the world to the light of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know, they're some I know, let's just I'll be
aust you. So my All Ball podcast is based upon
Howard Shuran's interview of Meghan Trainor I told you guys
this story on air.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No tell us some story.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's sarcasm right there. So I'm driving from Murphy's Burrow,
Tennessee to Bolding Green, Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I've been there to Murphy's Burrow, Middle Tennessee State University.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's right, which, by the way is like now almost
part of Nashville. Nashville's gotten so big anyway, So I
decide I'm just drive and there's a gigantic thunderstorm, gigantic,
and I'm listening to it and I it's it was fascinating,
like her life story and I would never be a
Megan Trainer fan, like she's just you know, I like
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one of her songs, but whatever. And the way in
which he made her interesting and she told her story
was fascinating to me. So fascinating to me that I
was in this terrible thunderstorm and you know, it's going
in and out with satellite radio, and my wife at
the time she called me and she's like, where are you.
I'm like, I don't know, I'm somewhere and she's like, well,
(16:46):
drop up hin. I was like why, She's like, because
I think you're like in the path of a tornado.
I'm like what. So I literally pulled over.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got it, you know, that was it. I didn't
want to go on in the car, so I posted.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I pulled underneath an overpass, which is what you're supposed
to do, right if you're in the middle of nowhere,
you pulled underneath it overpass. But I pulled out just
so so that when it was clear I could I
could hear the interview, to hear the interview, and uh,
storm passed unless the whole interview did get on my
car till it was done. So yeah, was it?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Wasn't it Ellie Goulding? Wasn't that who it was? Or Golding?
Isn't I thought I've heard you tell the story before.
Maybe it was Megan Trainer.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Mean train. She was talking about how she looked. She
was in La Reid's office and she was supposed to
play It wasn't all about that bass. I think it
was I'm Gonna love You like I'm Gonna lose you,
and she thought it was. It was she just had
the first first down and she used to, like Stapleton,
write for everybody else, and she had to learn how
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to play the whole song in like a boardroom all
day on her ukulele. Finally, the end of the day.
She goes in plays her for La Reid and he's like, great,
let's record it. And he's like, for who for you?
And that changed your life?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Eli Golding can't hold us candle to Megan Trainer's life story. Apparently,
according to Doug, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No, I don't know, Eli Golding.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I think we got them confused once this kind of
discussion came up sometime in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Guys are making fun of me. I know. That's what's happening.
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Doug Gottlieb show, Fox Sports Radio. I've reached that age
where guys are making fun of my stories being told
for a fifteenth time, right. That's That's That's what I've
we as we've become.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Sometimes sometimes we get the feeling in the studio that
it's groundhogged at that Bill Murray wakes up every morning
and how the exact same conversations, having not remembered he
had it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I listen, I remember I had these conversations with you.
But you have to also what are the other rules
you mentioned that The number one rule to broadcasting is, hey,
let's not alienate half your audience. But you also don't
want to assume. Okay, and you you can't act like
you have the exact same audience today you had yesterday
or last week or last month or last year. Don't assume.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Oh no, no, we we want you to repeat yourself.
There's nothing wrong with breton a story. I just think
it's funny when you're like, have I told this one before?
Have I said this before? Yeah, that's that's where the
funny part comes in. That's what we all.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, we're with you every day, so you know, so
we know I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm my, my, my, my buddy. Dave Revson he used
to it, was it, David? I think I think it
was Rever He used to say that about his his mom.
It's just they number her stories, so did she get
she gets this story? Like, that's not seven.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Dana Carvey in the movie Clean Slate, he has this
amnesia problem. He wakes up every day with no memory,
has to leave himself little notes, and it's like, you
relive these experiences over and over again, they're just.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
As joyful as the first time.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
How about that you just relived that pulling under the
underpass with the thunderstorm passing through, and like, yes, that's
where I fell in love with interviewing and making sure well.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
No I was. I've always been in love with interviewing,
and I actually think I'm pretty good at it. I
just think those guys are the best, the best, And
I would also agree with I thought Dan's point was
probably the best. Like I would add to Dan's point.
Dan said, Hey, what about non big names. It's like
some of you didn't care about somebody caring about That's one.
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The other one is can you here's two other ones.
Can you make a somebody who doesn't isn't into it?
Can you flip a mid interview? That's really hard right
where you feel like does he want to be here?
Then all of a sudden you get on some sidetrack
conversation and they start going and they get where you
want to get to anyway, or the other one is
this is a really hard. One is saying goodbye like
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three minutes say, when the person just does not want
to do it. You know, the producer worked for two
months to get you. Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter has nothing
to say, doesn't know who you are, doesn't want to
do it. Do you have the balls to go like,
hey Derek, thanks man. I know there's a lot of
places you want to be and this isn't one of them.
Will you appreciate you or just say, hey, man, appreciate
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you coming on.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
That's why you go the grand Benzinger route and you
live in Derek Jeter's pool house for a month and
you get to know him real well.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
There's the Wands of Morning story. Remember the Wands of
Morning story?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, no, I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Wands of Morning in his probably peak of relevance because
he was he came back from the kidney injury. Do
you have kidney cancer? He had something something horrible. Yeah,
And so he came on with the pitch. You know,
we agree to talk about what you're doing for kidney cancer,
but it's going to be an interview. We'll do the pitch,
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but it's going to be an interview. So Rome starts
asking him about his season or his career or whatever,
and he just goes into this like scripted thing about
his cause. And Jim's like, understand, Awonso would love to
talk some basketball, and One's like, I'm not here to
talk basketball, and he goes right back to his script
about the cause, and Jim says, okay, thanks for joining us.
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It's probably about ninety seconds, two minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You got. You gotta have a great relationship with your
booking producer, and you know you gotta sometimes have some
lower intestinal fortitude, right, lower intestine for two. Just go,
this is not going to work.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's just not talking small intestine, large intestine, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Of both, the small intestin because the small intestine is
the lower intestine, right, I think, So here you do.
Let's get to Dan Bayer. Get a quick update Dan
what he got.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
We almost had a no hitter today in Major League
Baseball in the Guardians taking on the Mats, and Gavin
Williams has a no hitter heading into the bottom of
the ninth inning, struck out Francisco Lindor, and then this happened.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Gavin into the motion No one oh swung on, pounded
deep center field, Martinez track wall leap, shuts off the wall,
and now the Empires are saying and hit the back
wall and cairen back onto the field a home run,
and one Soto does it again to Cleveland solo Homer,
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his twenty six no hitter, gone shutout.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Gone Ah the Guardians Radio Network Cleveland would get the
victory four to one, but could have been history today
for Gavin Williams, who does pick up the victory, though
he didn't get that no hitter. A couple of finals.
Twins beat the Tigers nine to four, Giants double up
the Pirates four to two, and the Orioles beat the
Phillies five to one. Joey Otani's on the mound for
the Dodgers to start a against the Cardinals scoreless right
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now in the second Cubs lead the Red six nothing
in the ninth inning, trying to close it out at Wrigley.
Rays have jumped out on Doug's Angels to nothing in
the second, and Yankees have lost five straight. They're tied
with the Rangers at two apiece in the seventh, while
the Blue Jays have a five one lead against the Rockies.
In the fifth inning. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford received then
epidural to deal with an aggravated disc. According to the
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NFL Network, report says that the team believes he'll be
ready for Week one against the Texans. Broncos. A JK.
Dobbins is their first team running back with Julia McLaughlin
is the second team running back as their depth chart
was released today. Rocky R. J. Harvey right now fifth
in the pecking order in the Mile High City.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Doug, back to you, Stug Gottleib show here here at
Fox Sports Radio. Hmm, Dan, let me ask you a question,
what are you actually most interested in the SENTEFL season?
Like I say that because we're in the rapid hole
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of the Cowboy of talking about MICHAEH. Parsons, does any
of us, the four of us, Okay and Jason, I thought,
you know, your great perception of Hey, if Howard Stearn
says I don't need Trump listeners, don't listen to my show,
you know he's gonna quit soon or his contract's not
gonna be renewed. Right, So, based upon any of our perception,
does anybody think that Michael Parsons's not gonna play for
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the Cowboys this year?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I think he will eventually, Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Sam, Jay Stu, I think he plays. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean nobody sits out because remember if you sit out,
you don't gain that year and you don't get that money.
He's still there. Like the point is I get that
right now? It sounds like, man, this is really bad.
But as I've told you, he's actually under contract with
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the Cowboys for the next four years if they want
to keep him, and they wouldn't. They came together to
agree to terms. So however far off they are, it's
not that far off. If it was that far off, one,
they wouldn't have felt the Cowboys wouldn't have felt like they
had a deal, and two, Michael Parsons wouldn't be there
right now. He just wouldn't. Again, this is just a guess.
I don't know. I have texted Dave Molgetta asked him
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to come on. He to this point has not, and
in the past he has said I will come on.
I'd love to come on for other things that we've
I've text him about. So that doesn't mean he's gonna
share with us the details. My guess is that he's
the agent. Jerry knows the agent. Jerry tried to get
the deal done with Michael Parsons because he knows that
agents will do agent things where they try and drive
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up the price real or otherwise, and he tried to
get it done. They thought they had it done, that
it's not done, and then at some point, Micah called
Moged and was like, we got a deal done. He's like,
what what are you even talking about? And he hit
the roof. I don't blame him. Here's Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Let's talk about the negotiations real quick. It's my understanding.
Nothing was put in writing. So how would you describe
a deal getting so to speak, done and then walked
away from.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about
thirty seconds, and I gave the number, shook hands. The
details we worked out later. As a matter of fact,
one of the details involved a lot of money and
we had to flip a coin over that. But the
fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell it to
me for that range, that's done and those are done
(34:25):
with eye contact and handshake. So is there just so
you understand why the way that I communicate with people
that I negotiate with. So let's leave it at that.
There is no question that in the case of a
player or contract, you have to have it in writing.
(34:45):
All parties do we have a contract in writing, Yet
we're still talking about renegotiating it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So so much for that. Okay, So he's doing the Hey,
we had a verbal deal, we had a handshake agreement.
That's the agreement. And like I said, you know, then
he goes back to the agent and the agent's like,
you did what you agreed to? What? Excuse me? I
think a verbal a deal is a deal. Deal's a deal,
(35:15):
isn't it? You know, work out the details later. But yeah,
I'm actually with Jerry on this one. Hey, you want
to get a deal done, you want to get a
deal done quick. Let's get it done quick. It wouldn't
surprise me. By the way. Is if is if you
have a player who wanted to get the deal done
so he didn't have to pay the four percent that
(35:39):
Molgeta did his last deal, and he's like, I don't
need that. And that's where that's where I don't. I
don't think Michael Parsons understands that. Do You guys know
this about agents. You can fire your agent, but if
you stay with the same team, you still owe your
agent that that money that commissioned. It's the same thing
(36:02):
with with our business, right Like the the agent that
I did the deal with, the mood to fox An agency,
I there's I'm there's I'm still on the hook to
pay them. Why they move me over here. It's not
a new not a new contract, just extension of the contract. Technically,
if I started a new contract, then I guess I
(36:24):
could have that argument. I bring it up, Dan, because
it's not really that interesting to me. I think that
Jerry and this this constant every year hit one of
his best players, best player, and some of the things
they say, and how it's all handled, I think that
part is interesting. But the grand scheme of things in
(36:46):
in five months, are we really going to be talking
about this?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think Aaron Rodgers looking old and slow and a
little an enthusiastic, I think that's a bigger deal then
the parts steal. I actually think that the Browns thing
is bigger because they may be competing for the number
one seed, I mean the number one draft pick. Excuse me.
(37:12):
I think those things are more interesting. So I ask you,
as a guy who has your own podcast focuses on
fantasy fantasy football, it's called I Want Your Flex, what's
the most interesting thing to you this season?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Seasons of a long time, there are a lot of
there's there's twenty storylines that we could follow, some that
won't be paid off, to the playoffs. The most interesting
story to start this season to me is Caleb Williams
and Ben Johnson's marriage in Chicago, not only because of
what we've seen in the preseason, but also Ben Johnson
had an opportunity to pick wherever he wanted to go
(37:49):
basically the last couple of off seasons, and then he
finally cashed in his chips and says, I'm going to Chicago.
The Bears traded away their first overall pick one year,
and then we're fortunate enough to get the first overall
pick because of the trade they made the second year
to draft Caleb Williams. Not only do I think that
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we are going to be watching Caleb Williams over the
first four weeks to see how he does with the Bears,
we will always compare him to Jayden Daniels because he
was picked after him. By all accounts, Drake May is
having a good training camp with the New England Patriots
and I and by the way, I'm starting to really
love New England this season. The vrabel already today gets
(38:30):
blooded in a scrap with the Commanders. So Drake May
seems to be getting positive reviews and we don't hear
it with Caleb Williams, and the craziest thing of all,
we may now be having to compare Caleb Williams with
Bryce Young, who came on strong last year at the
end of the year after a disastrous first season, plus
with the Panthers, and now if the Panthers continue to
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make the strides like the Caleb Williams conversation has so
many different areas and so while the chief if they
can bounce back, if the Bills can get to the
super Bowl, is something that will follow, but we won't
pay it off until January or February, the first six
weeks of the season. I think Caleb Williams watch in
Chicago is to me the most intriguing.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I would tuck you after that legend, but I don't
want to. I think it's great. You know, he's supposed
to have that year two jump. They put a bunch
of weapons around him. They brought in the guy who
everybody thinks is the offensive guru. And you have a
player who real or perceived and obviously the article didn't
help perceived as being super arrogant. If he can't play, yikes, yikes,
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It's a Wednesday. It is a game week Wednesday, right
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NFL team will have had a preseason game by the
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So it's a little bit different Wednesday. We got a
lot to get to. But I love this segment of
the show. We it's the middle of the week of
the day. Heck, if you count our podcasts the middle
of our show, let's buy the midway. He's not getting
the middle with you. It's time for the Midway. Okay, guys,
(01:15):
whole cruise here Jase Tuo, Iowa, Sam dan Byer and myself.
So here's what I want to do. I tweeted out
earlier today with Howard Stern and his show, I never
gets canceled his shows, he didn't get re upped. I
who knows. And I would love Jace Dou, I would
(01:37):
love for you to share what you showed me when
you knew this was coming two days ago and I
didn't hear it. I didn't know. But I just want
to talk about who does what best because I think
that that Stern the bits are what made him famous,
right the Bubba Buie and you know, a lot of
(01:59):
the nudities and it wasn't even sexual innuendo. Like I thought.
The show got a lot less clever when he went
off of Trust Your Radio because they were just things
you could just say whatever you wanted to say. But
I thought when he got off of Trust Your Radio,
he showed incredible chops as the interviewer. And I bring
(02:20):
it up because I love the way he takes people
through telling their story and learns things about them. And
what I tweeted was that Howard Shurn's the best long
form interviewer. I think Dan Patrick's the best in sports radio.
And what happens is you have people that are frankly
(02:40):
not very smart or don't understand the profession. It doesn't
mean that Dan is the perfect radio host or the
best radio host. I think the best thing he does
is interview people's he listens. He's unbelievably quick. Everybody knows him,
so there's kind of automack respect given to him. But
he's he's great with with how he does it. And
(03:02):
when you're doing it live on radio, it's a skill
as opposed to you know, when you have you can
not take breaks for an hour and you'r Howard Stern,
it's a different skill. Is there anybody else you, guys
would throw in that mix of best interviewers?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Are we talking? Because there's some television ones that that
I think stand.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Out radio audio? Let's just do audio.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, guys, then I'm I'm out. I'm at.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You don't listen to sports radio or or or talk
radio or satellite radio?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
U No, not satellite. I don't have satellite radio, so
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Are you anymore? Jay ste Do you any other any
other and others you would like to volunteer their names
for Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Joe Rogan can hold a listener's attention for a three
hour sit down interview. I think that there's a there's
something to the way he interviews that makes people comfortable
enough to give him stuff. There's also a lot of
great opinion within that. So I told everybody who I
(04:25):
I was in my orbit. I know, I told you
leading up to the election. I said I would if
I were you listen to Trump's interview with Rogan. And
automatically people are like, I've never listened to anything that
Trump does, and I said no. Within the questions that
(04:46):
Joe Rogan asks, he does a great job of laying
out why people are so frustrated with the left and
if you want to be educated as to why people
are frustrated with your side of the aisle. I think
it's a great interview. It's an educationtional interview, and I
think that's what Joe offers. I think he gets great
answers in conversation and then you also get a great
(05:09):
handful of his opinion within the interviews. I don't know
if anyone does it better.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Sam, Yeah, I had two names that are do TV
or specials? I guess Graham ben Singer in Depth with
Graham Bensinger and David Letterman's new show My Next Guest
needs no introduction.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
See I would say this about Ben ben Singer, Yes,
is he does? He gets some good stuff? Do you guys?
Have you guys ever heard his process?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But I got hired away from Jim Rome in twenty fourteen,
and Graham Bensinger hired me away from him. I was
an intricate part of his booking process for eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, so take people through what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Graham has a very high standard for who he interviews,
and once he does get those interviews, every single guest
needs to have five phoners booked to talk about the
guest's life. So not only are you booking the actual
principal interview, you're booking the five most important people in
(06:20):
that in their life to spend twenty minutes on the
phone with Graham Benzinger, Wow, to get information on the guest.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And then doesn't he do doesn't he spend like a
week with.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The guests no lives in their poolhouse? I because I
had spends the summer.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Because my old producer, Adam Klug, he was offered a
job to be his field producer and he said him yeah,
and he said that, like the whole thing was like, yeah,
it's not just his is coming into an interview, like
he wants to really know you and spend time. And
he spends I don't know if it was a week
or whatever, but it's like a substantial amount of time
(06:57):
just hanging out with you, and then there's a couple
of different inns that they do. It's not just like
one sit down.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
That's a good process because yeah, you're getting that access,
you're getting a comfort level at that point.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Once you're that's I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But here's the thing. Okay, and I think Brogan, I
haven't listened to a full Rogan I'm just be honest, never.
I've listened to long clips of it. And I think
he gets fascinating people. I think really Stern was the
birthplace of these kind of long form interviews on podcasts
(07:31):
or audio or whatever. Okay, there's magic to what Dan
does because when you do it and it's like let's
let people in behind the curtain. I think he does
most of his live now at ESPN. He used to
do him a lot of times after the show, and
then they would cut it up, and so a thirty
minute would become eight minutes, and it was eight minutes
(07:51):
of absolute gold. I think doing it live on the
radio eight twelve minutes is or in person, the way
he does it, it's unbelievable. It's really difficult. I do
think that Rogan and sterned right, you're still in person
and you got to take people down a path. I'll
(08:12):
tell you somebody who gets a lot of credit on
social media and you work for I don't think is
in that. But it's because I know the process. I
think there's a lot of research done within it is Rome, right.
Rome's whole thing is he he has a producer prep him.
He is a vociferous reader. Again, you tell me if
I'm wrong, Jay Stu. And what he does is he
(08:33):
finds his story that he thinks everybody will be fascinated by,
and then he walks you to the path of that story.
And what I've been told was Jim Row doesn't ask
a question he doesn't already know the answer to, right,
but it may not everybody else might not know that answer.
And so when he hears it, he makes it sound
like it's the first time. It's kind of it's a
little magical. And how he does it I just process wise.
(08:55):
I like Dan style, which kind of I sort of adopted,
which is like, I asked things that I want to
know and see where they take me. But Rome's in
any conversation, because you know, his most famous one was
Jim Everett. But okay, and.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
By the way, I'm I think you're asking me to
verify that or or I disagree. All right, So so
Jim does everything you just said. But here's the genius
in any interview. Any good interviewer is really good at listening.
But he's best. The best parts of Jim Rome's interviews
(09:37):
are follow ups to answers already given. So you you
are half right. He doesn't ask a question initially unless
he knows the answer, but he's got to follow based
on that answer. And to me, that's the genius of
any interview. If you could prove to me that you're listening,
that goes along with me, If I could hear the
(09:58):
work that you put into it, that goes along the
way with me personally.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think I'm I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think you prove you're listening intently if you're asking
good follow up questions in the moment that maybe you
didn't plan for. I think a lot of these guys
they can relate, They have empathy, and they're calm. There's
a calmness to like a Graham Benzinger. There's a calmness
to a Joe Rogan. There's a calmness to a Howard
Stern and Dan Patrick. And it puts their guest cities too.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't think. I think here's why the Dan, the
Stern and the Rogan things work more than best thing
for works I personally, because they're known for something else
and they were on TV when we were kids, right,
(10:50):
I mean, is there anyone alive who watches sports that
didn't watch Keith and Dan Sports Center that's like thirty
or over right. It's a little different now because he's
older now, right, but a lot of his guests are older,
and those guys they just they there's just a different
respect comfort whatever. They understand their humor. I think Rome
has a little bit of that. Obviously, once he left ESPN,
(11:13):
it got a little sort of it changed in terms
of people's knowledge of him, I think sports radio guys.
But Joe Rogan has been on television. You go back
to fear factor since I was in what was that
we were in college at the time, jayse do, I'm
thinking right like he's and now obviously he's around UFC,
so there's a knowledge and a comfort with that. And
(11:33):
I would say Stern has He's been a big name forever.
His show has been big forever. And though even though
he went off trust for radio, I think the one
thing that probably he had the movie and then he
was on which one of those variety shows. Is he
on America's Got Talent?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, America's got talent. And by the way, since you
tease it, I'll pay off the tease. So I have
a text chain with buddies that are in the industry,
and do is talk crap about talent. That's that's That's
the gist of the uh of the group text. And
then Howard Stern two days ago said out loud that
(12:10):
he no longer wants Trump voters listening to his show.
I sent a text to the group text saying this
obviously means he's not re upping with serious exam because
that comment goes against every every single thing that we
were brought up to believe in broadcasting. Do not alienate
half your listening audience. So then the next day there's
(12:33):
a report that his deal is up and he's likely
not reupping with serious ExM So when I heard that
two days ago, I don't want Trump voters listening to
my show. I said, yeah, I take that with a
grain of salt. He's obviously coming from a place of empowerment.
(12:53):
He's got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank.
If he stopped doing it today, he'd be fine. Much
different than say, like a Pat McAfee's saying that, who's
trying to get to the top.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Good point. It's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I have another name throw out there, go back in
the sports world. I always thought this was his best
strength of his show was doing the interviews, and not
always with sports people, sometimes the actors. Rich Eisen, I
think is a good interviewer. I think that other parts
of his show, maybe you mean some of the criticism
or like the critiquing in his monologues or not, you know,
(13:30):
not always super sharpened. Well, he has he has business
interested you know, he can't be super critical of certain
entities because he might, you know, work for them. But
he is a very good interviewer and I've always enjoyed
his interviews. I always thought he his voice, has a
calm sounding voice, and does a great job interviewing anybody
from sports or outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah. I think his his desire to do outside of
sports really is what's pushed him. I think he is
really good. He is really knowledgeable, and he he does
this certain thing where he kind of takes you down
the path of what their what their life was like,
and and those major moments. That's a good one. That's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I really wish Bob Costas would do a podcast. I
really would do. He's my favorite of all time.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, he's unbelievable. And and you know who's who is
actually great as well was Tarico was really good when
he had a show. Tarrico's issue was that he would
never get he would never tackle anything negative, perceived negative
or whatever. Would just like if somebody's like, yeah, I
want to stay away from that, Like all right, we're
not asking he.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And what's the word not impersonates, but he to me
represents everything vanilla in our business. He's nothing Edgy at
all about Tarico other than his personal.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Life talk about thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I think I think that's okay. People have certain lanes
that they stay in. That's just their brand, you know. Yes,
And there's a big enough tent out there. The world
is big enough to have all these people under it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
If you want to go to a hard hitting, hitting interview,
you go to someone else. If you want maybe something
that's more positive and on in on the script, it's Tarico.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think he does a very good job. I think
one constant that we're hearing in a lot of these
or these these interviewers get amazing guests and and also
the true like feeling is what about when the guest
isn't something that maybe you know about or know of.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yes, that that's when you're really good. Yes, that's when
you're really good.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Like you're you're bringing this guest's like, you know, presence
and role in the world to the light of the people.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know, they're some I know, let's just I'll be
aust you. So my All Ball podcast is based upon
Howard Shuran's interview of Meghan Trainor I told you guys
this story on air.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No tell us some story.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's sarcasm right there. So I'm driving from Murphy's Burrow,
Tennessee to Bolding Green, Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I've been there to Murphy's Burrow, Middle Tennessee State University.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's right, which, by the way is like now almost
part of Nashville. Nashville's gotten so big anyway, So I
decide I'm just drive and there's a gigantic thunderstorm, gigantic,
and I'm listening to it and I it's it was fascinating,
like her life story and I would never be a
Megan Trainer fan, like she's just you know, I like
(16:25):
one of her songs, but whatever. And the way in
which he made her interesting and she told her story
was fascinating to me. So fascinating to me that I
was in this terrible thunderstorm and you know, it's going
in and out with satellite radio, and my wife at
the time she called me and she's like, where are you.
I'm like, I don't know, I'm somewhere and she's like, well,
(16:46):
drop up hin. I was like why, She's like, because
I think you're like in the path of a tornado.
I'm like what. So I literally pulled over.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got it, you know, that was it. I didn't
want to go on in the car, so I posted.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I pulled underneath an overpass, which is what you're supposed
to do, right if you're in the middle of nowhere,
you pulled underneath it overpass. But I pulled out just
so so that when it was clear I could I
could hear the interview, to hear the interview, and uh,
storm passed unless the whole interview did get on my
car till it was done. So yeah, was it?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Wasn't it Ellie Goulding? Wasn't that who it was? Or Golding?
Isn't I thought I've heard you tell the story before.
Maybe it was Megan Trainer.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Mean train. She was talking about how she looked. She
was in La Reid's office and she was supposed to
play It wasn't all about that bass. I think it
was I'm Gonna love You like I'm Gonna lose you,
and she thought it was. It was she just had
the first first down and she used to, like Stapleton,
write for everybody else, and she had to learn how
(17:51):
to play the whole song in like a boardroom all
day on her ukulele. Finally, the end of the day.
She goes in plays her for La Reid and he's like, great,
let's record it. And he's like, for who for you?
And that changed your life?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Eli Golding can't hold us candle to Megan Trainer's life story. Apparently,
according to Doug, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No, I don't know, Eli Golding.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I think we got them confused once this kind of
discussion came up sometime in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Guys are making fun of me. I know. That's what's happening.
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Doug Gottlieb show, Fox Sports Radio. I've reached that age
where guys are making fun of my stories being told
for a fifteenth time, right. That's That's That's what I've
we as we've become.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Sometimes sometimes we get the feeling in the studio that
it's groundhogged at that Bill Murray wakes up every morning
and how the exact same conversations, having not remembered he
had it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I listen, I remember I had these conversations with you.
But you have to also what are the other rules
you mentioned that The number one rule to broadcasting is, hey,
let's not alienate half your audience. But you also don't
want to assume. Okay, and you you can't act like
you have the exact same audience today you had yesterday
or last week or last month or last year. Don't assume.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Oh no, no, we we want you to repeat yourself.
There's nothing wrong with breton a story. I just think
it's funny when you're like, have I told this one before?
Have I said this before? Yeah, that's that's where the
funny part comes in. That's what we all.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, we're with you every day, so you know, so
we know I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm my, my, my, my buddy. Dave Revson he used
to it, was it, David? I think I think it
was Rever He used to say that about his his mom.
It's just they number her stories, so did she get
she gets this story? Like, that's not seven.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Dana Carvey in the movie Clean Slate, he has this
amnesia problem. He wakes up every day with no memory,
has to leave himself little notes, and it's like, you
relive these experiences over and over again, they're just.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
As joyful as the first time.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
How about that you just relived that pulling under the
underpass with the thunderstorm passing through, and like, yes, that's
where I fell in love with interviewing and making sure well.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
No I was. I've always been in love with interviewing,
and I actually think I'm pretty good at it. I
just think those guys are the best, the best, And
I would also agree with I thought Dan's point was
probably the best. Like I would add to Dan's point.
Dan said, Hey, what about non big names. It's like
some of you didn't care about somebody caring about That's one.
(27:43):
The other one is can you here's two other ones.
Can you make a somebody who doesn't isn't into it?
Can you flip a mid interview? That's really hard right
where you feel like does he want to be here?
Then all of a sudden you get on some sidetrack
conversation and they start going and they get where you
want to get to anyway, or the other one is
this is a really hard. One is saying goodbye like
(28:05):
three minutes say, when the person just does not want
to do it. You know, the producer worked for two
months to get you. Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter has nothing
to say, doesn't know who you are, doesn't want to
do it. Do you have the balls to go like,
hey Derek, thanks man. I know there's a lot of
places you want to be and this isn't one of them.
Will you appreciate you or just say, hey, man, appreciate
(28:26):
you coming on.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
That's why you go the grand Benzinger route and you
live in Derek Jeter's pool house for a month and
you get to know him real well.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
There's the Wands of Morning story. Remember the Wands of
Morning story?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, no, I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Wands of Morning in his probably peak of relevance because
he was he came back from the kidney injury. Do
you have kidney cancer? He had something something horrible. Yeah,
And so he came on with the pitch. You know,
we agree to talk about what you're doing for kidney cancer,
but it's going to be an interview. We'll do the pitch,
(29:03):
but it's going to be an interview. So Rome starts
asking him about his season or his career or whatever,
and he just goes into this like scripted thing about
his cause. And Jim's like, understand, Awonso would love to
talk some basketball, and One's like, I'm not here to
talk basketball, and he goes right back to his script
about the cause, and Jim says, okay, thanks for joining us.
(29:24):
It's probably about ninety seconds, two minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You got. You gotta have a great relationship with your
booking producer, and you know you gotta sometimes have some
lower intestinal fortitude, right, lower intestine for two. Just go,
this is not going to work.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's just not talking small intestine, large intestine, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Of both, the small intestin because the small intestine is
the lower intestine, right, I think, So here you do.
Let's get to Dan Bayer. Get a quick update Dan
what he got.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
We almost had a no hitter today in Major League
Baseball in the Guardians taking on the Mats, and Gavin
Williams has a no hitter heading into the bottom of
the ninth inning, struck out Francisco Lindor, and then this happened.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Gavin into the motion No one oh swung on, pounded
deep center field, Martinez track wall leap, shuts off the wall,
and now the Empires are saying and hit the back
wall and cairen back onto the field a home run,
and one Soto does it again to Cleveland solo Homer,
(30:35):
his twenty six no hitter, gone shutout.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Gone Ah the Guardians Radio Network Cleveland would get the
victory four to one, but could have been history today
for Gavin Williams, who does pick up the victory, though
he didn't get that no hitter. A couple of finals.
Twins beat the Tigers nine to four, Giants double up
the Pirates four to two, and the Orioles beat the
Phillies five to one. Joey Otani's on the mound for
the Dodgers to start a against the Cardinals scoreless right
(31:01):
now in the second Cubs lead the Red six nothing
in the ninth inning, trying to close it out at Wrigley.
Rays have jumped out on Doug's Angels to nothing in
the second, and Yankees have lost five straight. They're tied
with the Rangers at two apiece in the seventh, while
the Blue Jays have a five one lead against the Rockies.
In the fifth inning. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford received then
epidural to deal with an aggravated disc. According to the
(31:21):
NFL Network, report says that the team believes he'll be
ready for Week one against the Texans. Broncos. A JK.
Dobbins is their first team running back with Julia McLaughlin
is the second team running back as their depth chart
was released today. Rocky R. J. Harvey right now fifth
in the pecking order in the Mile High City.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Doug, back to you, Stug Gottleib show here here at
Fox Sports Radio. Hmm, Dan, let me ask you a question,
what are you actually most interested in the SENTEFL season?
Like I say that because we're in the rapid hole
(31:59):
of the Cowboy of talking about MICHAEH. Parsons, does any
of us, the four of us, Okay and Jason, I thought,
you know, your great perception of Hey, if Howard Stearn
says I don't need Trump listeners, don't listen to my show,
you know he's gonna quit soon or his contract's not
gonna be renewed. Right, So, based upon any of our perception,
does anybody think that Michael Parsons's not gonna play for
(32:21):
the Cowboys this year?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I think he will eventually, Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Sam, Jay Stu, I think he plays. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean nobody sits out because remember if you sit out,
you don't gain that year and you don't get that money.
He's still there. Like the point is I get that
right now? It sounds like, man, this is really bad.
But as I've told you, he's actually under contract with
(32:49):
the Cowboys for the next four years if they want
to keep him, and they wouldn't. They came together to
agree to terms. So however far off they are, it's
not that far off. If it was that far off, one,
they wouldn't have felt the Cowboys wouldn't have felt like they
had a deal, and two, Michael Parsons wouldn't be there
right now. He just wouldn't. Again, this is just a guess.
I don't know. I have texted Dave Molgetta asked him
(33:13):
to come on. He to this point has not, and
in the past he has said I will come on.
I'd love to come on for other things that we've
I've text him about. So that doesn't mean he's gonna
share with us the details. My guess is that he's
the agent. Jerry knows the agent. Jerry tried to get
the deal done with Michael Parsons because he knows that
agents will do agent things where they try and drive
(33:33):
up the price real or otherwise, and he tried to
get it done. They thought they had it done, that
it's not done, and then at some point, Micah called
Moged and was like, we got a deal done. He's like,
what what are you even talking about? And he hit
the roof. I don't blame him. Here's Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Let's talk about the negotiations real quick. It's my understanding.
Nothing was put in writing. So how would you describe
a deal getting so to speak, done and then walked
away from.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about
thirty seconds, and I gave the number, shook hands. The
details we worked out later. As a matter of fact,
one of the details involved a lot of money and
we had to flip a coin over that. But the
fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell it to
me for that range, that's done and those are done
(34:25):
with eye contact and handshake. So is there just so
you understand why the way that I communicate with people
that I negotiate with. So let's leave it at that.
There is no question that in the case of a
player or contract, you have to have it in writing.
(34:45):
All parties do we have a contract in writing, Yet
we're still talking about renegotiating it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So so much for that. Okay, So he's doing the Hey,
we had a verbal deal, we had a handshake agreement.
That's the agreement. And like I said, you know, then
he goes back to the agent and the agent's like,
you did what you agreed to? What? Excuse me? I
think a verbal a deal is a deal. Deal's a deal,
(35:15):
isn't it? You know, work out the details later. But yeah,
I'm actually with Jerry on this one. Hey, you want
to get a deal done, you want to get a
deal done quick. Let's get it done quick. It wouldn't
surprise me. By the way. Is if is if you
have a player who wanted to get the deal done
so he didn't have to pay the four percent that
(35:39):
Molgeta did his last deal, and he's like, I don't
need that. And that's where that's where I don't. I
don't think Michael Parsons understands that. Do You guys know
this about agents. You can fire your agent, but if
you stay with the same team, you still owe your
agent that that money that commissioned. It's the same thing
(36:02):
with with our business, right Like the the agent that
I did the deal with, the mood to fox An agency,
I there's I'm there's I'm still on the hook to
pay them. Why they move me over here. It's not
a new not a new contract, just extension of the contract. Technically,
if I started a new contract, then I guess I
(36:24):
could have that argument. I bring it up, Dan, because
it's not really that interesting to me. I think that
Jerry and this this constant every year hit one of
his best players, best player, and some of the things
they say, and how it's all handled, I think that
part is interesting. But the grand scheme of things in
(36:46):
in five months, are we really going to be talking
about this?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think Aaron Rodgers looking old and slow and a
little an enthusiastic, I think that's a bigger deal then
the parts steal. I actually think that the Browns thing
is bigger because they may be competing for the number
one seed, I mean the number one draft pick. Excuse me.
(37:12):
I think those things are more interesting. So I ask you,
as a guy who has your own podcast focuses on
fantasy fantasy football, it's called I Want Your Flex, what's
the most interesting thing to you this season?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Seasons of a long time, there are a lot of
there's there's twenty storylines that we could follow, some that
won't be paid off, to the playoffs. The most interesting
story to start this season to me is Caleb Williams
and Ben Johnson's marriage in Chicago, not only because of
what we've seen in the preseason, but also Ben Johnson
had an opportunity to pick wherever he wanted to go
(37:49):
basically the last couple of off seasons, and then he
finally cashed in his chips and says, I'm going to Chicago.
The Bears traded away their first overall pick one year,
and then we're fortunate enough to get the first overall
pick because of the trade they made the second year
to draft Caleb Williams. Not only do I think that
(38:10):
we are going to be watching Caleb Williams over the
first four weeks to see how he does with the Bears,
we will always compare him to Jayden Daniels because he
was picked after him. By all accounts, Drake May is
having a good training camp with the New England Patriots
and I and by the way, I'm starting to really
love New England this season. The vrabel already today gets
(38:30):
blooded in a scrap with the Commanders. So Drake May
seems to be getting positive reviews and we don't hear
it with Caleb Williams, and the craziest thing of all,
we may now be having to compare Caleb Williams with
Bryce Young, who came on strong last year at the
end of the year after a disastrous first season, plus
with the Panthers, and now if the Panthers continue to
(38:52):
make the strides like the Caleb Williams conversation has so
many different areas and so while the chief if they
can bounce back, if the Bills can get to the
super Bowl, is something that will follow, but we won't
pay it off until January or February, the first six
weeks of the season. I think Caleb Williams watch in
Chicago is to me the most intriguing.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I would tuck you after that legend, but I don't
want to. I think it's great. You know, he's supposed
to have that year two jump. They put a bunch
of weapons around him. They brought in the guy who
everybody thinks is the offensive guru. And you have a
player who real or perceived and obviously the article didn't
help perceived as being super arrogant. If he can't play, yikes, yikes,
(39:41):
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