August 20, 2025 • 39 mins
In today's installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss the industry of sports talk radio. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to discuss Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons and all of the headlines around the NFL. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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should be uh got a great hour for you. We'll
talk some Miles Garrett upcoming plus Tino Jeremiah the co
host to move the sticks. We'll join us as well.
We got the press weeks you updated on day baseball
gets ready for tonight's baseball, which should be outstanding.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We got some good things, good things working, good things working.
Every day we do something called the mid not every day.
Every Wednesday we do something called the Midway. It's the
middle of the week, Wednesday, middle of the day, middle
of our show. Yeah, you know, we have an hour
podcast drops after the show. It's called in the Bonus,
So three hours. This is the middle and sometimes we
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go off hardcore sports. But we find a topic that
we want to throw around and we call it the Midway.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He's not getting the middle it's time for the Midway.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So uh, it's an easy topic for us. Jason Stewart's
all all over this. It's National Radio Day. He had
a cool tweet pictures of him with his illustrious career
and I'm in. But there's lots of different elements to it.
So Jace, do how do you want to talk about national.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Rings from here?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think that's a different between if we do the math.
If we do the math, I've got almost thirty years in.
I think you've got over twenty. Isaac after he interned
for Steve Carbones, has put in what.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Five plus it was lower than an intern and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Then Sam's got a good fifteen.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
We're at like eighty five years here.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's a lot a lot of radio, a lot of sports, radio,
to be specific. I just kind of wanted to touch
base about the industry on National Radio Day because it's
just it's obviously something that's been in the country for
what decades and decades, but landscapes change, paradigms shift, and
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I want to talk about the medium that I love
so dearly, and if I could, I'll just start with this. Okay,
there are a lot of people that have podcasts. I
think I think the number was thirty two million at
last count, thirty two million podcasts around the world, So
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there are a lot of people just putting on their
computer what we have been doing for many years talking.
And I think that there has been a couple downstream
impact impacts, impact impactfulness, downstream effects of that. I think
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the standards of actual radio broadcast, the presentation of it
has lowered a little bit, and I think they're just
kind of is a there's been a gradual lacking of
appreciation for the traditional way of doing this. Now Doug
didn't do it traditionally, but I think Sam and Isaac
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and I we studied this in college. We paid our
dues through internships, and we came up through the system,
and I think that that on a resume is no
longer very impressive. So those are kind of my thoughts
in twenty twenty five about sports radio.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I here's here's mine. Obviously it's different when you're on
the town side as opposed to production side. For people
who don't know this, I actually got asked the question
yesterday by one of my new assistant coaches, and they
were like, why do you still do the radio, And
I said, because I love it. I love radio. Like,
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where where does that go back from? I was like, well,
to be honest, my dad used to like old time
radio and he had old time radio cassette tapes because
they used to I don't know if you know this,
Jase too. There's a station in Los Angeles kN X,
which was the one of the two old news stations,
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and on I think Saturday nights, maybe in Sunday nights,
but I think it was Saturday nights, they would play
an hour of old time radio.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Oh, yes, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, And my dad was He's not that old, but
he was like an old soul. So he's born in
nineteen forty, so he sort of missed, you know, the
golden era of World War two radio, you know, but
he was a fan of Burns and Allen, the Bickersons,
the Jack Benny Show, and he bought these cassette tapes
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and there's still my mom's house and we used to
listen to him and we drive around southern California and
we listened to old time radio amazing and then you know,
fast forward to when you know, then sports radio. When
I was in high school, I grew up on Ley
Hacksaw Hamilton. I want to talk sports with you.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Where are you on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Touchdown San Diego?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Anyway, Baha to the Canadian Rockies.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
There you go?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Can I guess a hileye call?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And late at night there was this wild show where
guys would call in and talk smack and order out
drug duk drug tests for somebody who did something stupid
in the world of sports. That was Jim Rowe.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
How great is that?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right? So, you know you had the Rat Family, you
had Monica Mouse, you know you had Oh it's so good.
So it's really interesting now when you have a bad
day or you have a tough season like we had
last year, like the two of the things I dreamed
of growing up I get to do every day, which
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is coach college basketball and have a sports radio show.
I think it's awesome, and I wonder I don't know
how it gets delivered, you know, from your now, but
I do think that there's always going to be a
value to the live sports radio instant reaction stuff. I
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just do. I realized that, you know, AM radio is
being being pushed out on some level. I know how
many podcasts. I know you can do longer form interviews
and you can get some great stuff. I agree with
Jay stew And that for every great podcast interview, there's
a million that are terrible, terrible. Not that sports radio
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or live radio is always the best, but you definitely
get it up to the minute. And I can think
of one hundred different things that happened while I was
on radio, the Boston Marathon, bombing, Red Sox, Yankees, Aaron
effing Boone, right, like so many things happen while I
was on radio. That it's all about your instant reaction
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as an educated sports fan, and that's what makes it
great to me. So and yeah, I do I think
that all of these shows are great. No, but because
it's getting condensed. I mean, we have you have two
Hall of Famers in our lineup and The great thing
about Dan and Colin is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You were talking about me and Isaac.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm sorry, I didn't even think it was talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The great thing about those two is I think Colin
is into the maybe second part of his prime, and
I still think Dan just so delivers. He's the guy
that we feel like has been in our lives since
childhood because he was the face of Sports Center. So yeah,
I think there's a lot of crap out there, but
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I think our lineup is as good as anything that
there's ever been in sports radio. And I think you
only have that because others have fallen by the wayside
and there's not the competition for live radio the way
there was previously. I also think, like, look, there's just
this is a hard medium to do. It's hard to
be able to react, have a take. Do things have
interviews where you have a time limit, you know, you
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can't just go blow through breaks. I think that stuff
is hard, and I do think that we've been doing
it long enough to where we maybe even sometimes.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Take it for granted.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I will, can I get a botchy ball call from
Chula Vista? Sorry I couldn't resist. All right, I'll say
this from the perspective of someone who is on air
and is not part of the business side, which I
think is way more difficult. My anecdotal experience based on
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the people that I hear from on social media, great
fans of Fox Sports radio and other things, and the
people I hear from in volume in a cross section
of location, I think more people than ever are listening
to the radio, and more people are listening than even
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people in the business think are listening. But the challenge
in this day or age, this day and age is
how to accurately measure that and how to monetize that that.
As someone who is in the on air, I think
that is really challenging and something that I have.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's because for people who don't understand this, okay, there
are different ways in which they've tracked ratings. It's you know,
they used to be yet to fill out like a journal,
and now they have these little monitors you can you
can have on your hip whatever. Whereas podcasts you can
see the number of downloads, and some guys can inflate
those numbers. There's there's tricks for getting in algorithms and whatever,
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but but generally for a podcast you can track it.
For radio, it's kind of a you gotta take a
word for it sort of thing. But I agree with you.
You know, I cannot tell you how many places I go.
And you guys know I travel a lot. Where I
was in Tennessee that started last week, and you know,
I walk into a restaurant and hey, I listen to
your radio show. You know, it's not I download your podcast.
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That's your radio show. I get in southern California. I
get it when I travel here and we're on in Appleton,
I get it wherever I I was in Chicago the
Cubs game, I get a hey. You know, so I
agree with you. I people still because this is a relationship.
You know, I've been doing this long enough. I was
on air when my I got called, the ways my
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kids were born. You know, I've gone through every different
stage of life so far in twenty five years being
on the radio. And you don't get that as much
with with podcasts. So I you know, I'm I'm with you, though,
Ilo it is tricky how to monetize it. That's not
necessarily our job. How to measure it not necessarily a job,
but it does affect our job.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And this is also a different way about expressing why
I remain and again I'm biased, but I remain high
on the future of radio and its permanent place in
our society. Let's say, in a non sports way, an
earthquake hits here in southern California or some other Heaven
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forbid disaster across the country. What's always going to be
reliable as your way to commute, particularly in your car,
It's going to be the radio. What is the instant
live thing. I mean, I remember, as not someone in
the business, but as just a listener when I heard
that Shohyotani signed with the Dodgers in the summer, in
the off season before twenty twenty four, I was out
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and about the first thing I did turn on the
radio because I want to hear people talking about something
that's happening in real time. And from a oddly mechanical standpoint,
you're in your car, it is mechanically easier to listen
to the radio. All you do is make one movement
as you're driving, especially if the station you want to
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listen to that's carrying Fox Sports Radio is already there.
But if you want to listen to a podcast, there
are more physical and mechanical movements when you're driving a
car to select it depending on your car, or I
got to scroll to this, I gotta get this app.
But literally, with radio, your one physical movement and done.
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And for those reasons, I think there's always going to
be a place for radio in our society. The challenge
is always going to be how to monitor accurately the
number of listeners and how to monetize it.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Radio piggyback off of Isaac's point there, radio is just
sharing now more of the pie of people, you know,
the general listening and viewing audience. I want to Isaac
brings up a great point radio and I want to
just in general, like Sports Center, just things where people
pick out the stories for you and presented to you.
Was is and always will be a hands free endeavor.
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Right you're driving, you can't look on people say, now
you're on Twitter, you can just get all your highlights
on Twitter. Well, that involves, like you said, Isaac, scrolling
and looking around. The thing about Sports Center, the thing
about radio shows is that they pick out the stuff
for you and then you if you're working with your hands,
you're doing dishes, you're driving, that entertainment is brought to
you you don't have to use your phone, you don't
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have to look at a little rectangle. You are being
entertained with your ears and with TV with your eyes
and ears. And I don't think that'll ever go away,
because there will be a lot of things we still
do with our hands besides touching our phone and using
our phone. We need radio because it's it's like, in
a way, it's like a two it's like a two
dimensional thing like it. It's not about your hands, you're
you're all your senses. It's about hearing, it's about listening,
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or it's about if it's on TV, it's about watching
and listening. So I think it'll always be relevant. We're
just sharing more of the pie now.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
And I would also juxtapose that with what seems counterintuitive,
but I think the future of traditional over the air
television is actually in deeper trouble because you're seeing live
sports start to go way from traditional television now to
Netflix and YouTube, and the same for entertainment. So I
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think that that arguably is in danger of facing the
same challenges the radio is. But I think radio will
always be there.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I do think I think audio will always be there.
I think that getting into the phone has been the
biggest thing, right and the iHeartRadio app is just awesome.
And now we have that preset to where you can
just again because this is to your point, it's a
lot like the challenges for writers. You know that I
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think people read. I could be wrong because some of
this has shifted, but I thought for a long time
people read more. They just weren't reading newspapers, you know,
you're reading online articles. And I think people listen to
audio now way more than they used to write. How
many people, you know, like if you suggest even books,
they listen to books on tape or you know, it's
like I got I got a podcast for you, I
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got a radio show for you. And so the challenge
is how to make it so that everyone has headphones in,
especially in every major city in the country. How do
you get it so that you're delivering every time you
hop in the car, Like I would love to get
to the point where there's instead of just a you know,
serious XM button or an auxiliary button or a Bluetooth button,
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there's a Fox Sports radio button, you know, selfishly, a
Doug Gottlieb button right where you just press it. That's
my guy I listen to his content. You know, it's
like Howard Stern had his own channel and then he
had his own archives or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Like.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I think that stuff is great, But I think that
the live stuff to be able to get live sports radio,
I agree with you. I lo like, again, if there's
an odd forbid that there's an earthquake, I don't necessarily
think they should tune to us. But all these things
that happen in sports off the field. On the field,
you want instant reaction, but you also want you need
the experience of it. You need the experience of producers
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who have done it for twenty five years, radio host
who've done it for twenty five years, because they they
understand how things work better because of that perspective. So yeah,
I mean, look, there's the here's if you're driving, or
you're listening in your cube, or you listen to this
on our podcast, which does exist, right, know that there's
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I think the two greatest confidents you can give to
a radio guy was one, I listened through the break
and two two I got to where I was going
and I didn't get out of the car until that
segment was over. Those two things you say and our
hearts just leap for you, leap for you. That's when
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you know you're really doing a good job. Right Radio,
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Speaker 3 (17:27):
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Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's a Doug Otleap show here on Fox Sports Radio.
So we'd all agree, Miles Garrett's really talented dude, right well,
and I just look, there's been a lot of little things.
I mean, you know, he basically said goodbye to Cleveland
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then re signed after saying Cleveland couldn't win a Super Bowl.
You know, friend of mine's quarterback for the Steelers. He
said he dropped the most derogatory racial epitaph in the
middle of a football game, which is why Miles Garrett,
you know, had a dirty hit on him and yet
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no one else heard it, and he's never sort of
been accountable for it. So once you take a listen
to Q and A. This is a local reporter, I
thought pretty cleverly trying to talk about him speeding yet again,
Remember he flipped his Porsche going back to last year,
then gets caught speeding one hundred and a sixty in
early in the morning after a preseason game. Take a
listen to this Q and A with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'd honestly rather talk about football on his team than
anything I'm doing off field, other than the back.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To school no event that I did the other day.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But I mean, people want mightn't know about that. You
want to know a lot of things. Yeah, people want
to know a lot of things. I'm not talking about
the fact that I was speeding and that the reporter
is like, what's it like in the car when you're
going that fast? That? Which is? Which was cute? It's
not that hard to go. Yeah, you know, it was
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early in the morning. I was trying to get home.
I'll try not to do it again. I'll be better.
But that's not who Miles Garrett is. It's pretty obvious
no contrition over any of this stuff. Let's bring in
Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks to his podcast. He worked
for now. I worked for ESPN, I guess right, NFL Network,
The Chargers, Uh, he's the Chargers color analyst on radio
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DJ Miles Garrett, like, how would you He's obviously magnificently talented,
but there's been so many of these little things to
where he's never come back and said, my bad. How
do you view him in the grand scheme of things,
all things considered, Well.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I think this particular one is just it's not a
good look. It's always best just to go ahead and
just take some accountability, you know, put your you know,
kind of your proverbial hand up in the air and say, hey,
I've got to you know, I've got to be better.
I got to make better decisions, better choices. And I
think you kind of you move on and you just
go on and make better decisions and better choices. But
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I've seen this not just with him. You know, a
lot's been made about the Georgia football team and all
the issues they've had with speeding. But you know, I
feel like, in some ways, Doug, like every year I'm
getting background on players going into the draft that it's
less like this guy's got a drug problem, or he's
got an alcohol issue, or he's even like he's maybe
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it had issues with women. I like, the most growing
trend I see with young guys coming up is this
is this issue right here. I don't know if it's
because and this wasn't Miles' case, but a lot of
these athletes now have money, and they're younger, and they're
you know, getting these fast cars, and and uh, you're
starting to see this more and more. So I do
think it's a discussion that probably it needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I definitely I do as well. I mean, again, this
is not I'm not clutching my pearls. I drive too fast.
Probably the best thing for me now is the fact
that one of my cars that's electric, you know, if
you drive distances like it's I don't like stopping to charge.
So I actually drive a lot more of the speed
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limit in that car than I ever have. And I
drive trucks now, so it's not as much speeding, but
I drive too fast, so I'll be accountable for it.
And I'm an aggressive driver. But the kids out there
getting ridiculously nice cars in college, and all of us
have been young drivers before. We should not be driving
brand new, really nice, high end cars. We're just not
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there in terms of our you.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Know cars, that's what we're looking for. Safe cars.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, but like, look, this is a it's a
real thing that, you know, the Georgia's had all these
problems with issues with cars. Other schools have had issues
with guns. But one of the reasons guys have guns.
It's not just gun culture, but also like, hey, I
got a nice car. Now everybody knows I got money.
I feel like I'm a target and I do think
that an NFL star, like a Miles Garrett, He's not
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going to change everybody's opinion, but he can help it
by saying, look, man, I gotta, I gotta I gotta
be smarter about this. I gotta I gotta do better.
I mean, you would think once you flip a car,
that's the last time you do it, but that's probably
not it. Uh Right now, So the Browns they named
Flacco the starting quarterback. What do you think the smartest
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course of action for them going in the season is
going to be in regards to the other quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well, they're in a little bit of a of a
pickle here, you know, because they've they've you know, they've
got a situation where I thought from the outside it
was okay, well, you don't want to lose either of
the rookies because they're still you know, in a developmental mode.
You wouldn't be able to get either one of them
down to the practice squad. H In my opinion, I
think that they'd get claimed so and Flacco as a starter,
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so it's you know, I don't really see him keeping four.
So Kenny Pickett would seem to be, you know, someone
that they were excited about but hasn't stayed healthy and
would kind of make him the odd man out. But
then I talk to people around that building and they
talk about how much they left Kenny Pickett. So I'm like, well,
that's that's a little bit of a conundrum. Then I
guess you're going to try and carry four, you know,
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and maybe you know, you get some injury that you
could stash one of one of the three guys. Maybe
that's Picket's injury. I don't know, but that carrying fours
is uh, it's tough to do. But that, uh, that's
kind of where they find themselves right now. I was
thinking it would oll okay, they'll they'll move on from
Kenny Pickett, but unless something changes as we get to
the cutdown date, I was kind of led to believe
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that they don't really want to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, I'm interested in like Miles Garrett, the stuff things
still not done. When do you feel like it has
to be done by in order to in order for
him to be himself opening? I mean, Michael Parsons, I'm sorry,
Michael Parson, what do you think it has to be
done by?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, I mean some of these guys and you know
this douglike just in everything. I don't but yeah, and
some of them are just such physical freaks where you know,
you kind of think of the normal person, what type
of runway do you need to get up and ready
to go and you know, getting used to contact and
getting in quote unquote football shape. Micah Parsons kind of
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falls into one of those freak freaky dude type categories. So, uh,
you know, I think he could get this thing done
the week of the first game and show up and
be no worse for the wear. He's just one of
those rare, rare physical guys like that who just did
not like the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, no, he's definitely not like the rest of us. Anthey,
Richardson's agent said that the trust between them and the
franchise is questionable as he's now the number two quarterback
in Indie. But like you know, what do you think
is the logical reason or maybe a logical reason that
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the Colts named Danny Dimes the starter and not.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Richardson because they need to win games. I don't think
it's any more complicated than that. They just felt like
he was going to give them a better chance to
win games this year. And you know they Normally, when
you have a closer competition and there's not vast separation,
you go with the young guy a couple of reasons.
Number one, you invested the high pick in him, and
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number two, that kind of gives you, you know, hope
for the future, uh and all those things. So okay,
that that makes sense. Well, this is different. You've got
someone who you've got the new head coach there who's
not committed to him. You've got, you know, got a
situation where there's there is no next year. They need
to win right now, so all that stuff kind of
goes out the window. And I think there's a trust
factor with Daniel Jones, and I know you know that
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there's you don't want to put put it all on
one situation and say, oh, this is something they couldn't
get over. But I said it at the time when
we I think we even had a conversation about it.
You know, when a quarterback taps out and takes himself
out of a game because he's tired, that's a tough
one to get out of the back of your head, man,
And I'm sure some of that lingered within the locker
room it. I was curious to see what the reaction
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was going to be when he was named the starter,
and you saw a lot of, you know, quotes from
players on that team that were pretty effusive in their
praise of Daniel Jones, which as much as it says
about Daniel Jones, I also questioned what it says about
Richards Vett.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, saw this story. This from an NFL executive told
a Vegas Raiders beat writer in a conversation with the
NFL executive, I have no doubt the Raiders are the
front runners. Tom Brady and Mark Davis want to win
one to win now he thinks of the front runners
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for Trey Hendrickson, is that a smart investment for the Raiders?
Are they a pass rusher away from being competitive?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I mean, Pete's seventy three years old, so that's you know,
that's why it kind of makes sense. You went out
and hired Pete because you want to win right now,
be competitive right now. You went out and got yourself
a veteran quarterback in Gino. I think their roster is
incredibly thin. I think if they could have one of
those years where everybody you know, stays healthy, they're key
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guys that they could you know, they could push to
potentially be a wildcard team. But I don't know that
they're equipped to be able to withstand the inevitable injuries
that are going to come. I just don't see a
lot of roster depth there. So it's a little bit
of a high wire act and that would but that's
kind of you know, isn't kind of the risky bold thing.
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Isn't that kind of what the Raiders have you know,
have always been about. So I guess it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
No, it wouldn't surprise me. But that's that's the rate.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
They better stay healthy, though, I mean, they lose one
offensive lineman, they're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
There's gotta be so somebody we're missing. Who are we
missing In the discussion of quality teams playoff teams, who's
the least discussed team that you think is a playoff
caliber team.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, I was looking at this the other day and
kind of just going to the standings from last year.
I'm like, who is it going to be? Who's going
to be that team? I was trying to figure out
the most improved teams. And obviously we've talked plenty about
Chicago and Ben Johnson and Caleb looking like he's, you know,
hopefully taking a step forward. I was looking at it
from last year and just if you just look at
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the rosters, the difference between the Patriots roster last year
and this year is a pretty start. And I would
even say even on the coaching side of things, I
think they've made a lot of upgrades. I think you
see Drake May you know, play better in a second year.
And I look inside that division and I see a
Dolphins team that seems like they're a little bit kind
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of flustered, a little bit in flux. You don't know
what you're gonna get from them. The Jets, you know,
we don't know what justin fields that all defense is
going to look like. And you've got the Bills, who
you know, obviously have the MVP and they've got a
good defense. They're gonna more than likely win that division,
but I think the Patriots could potentially get one of
those games. So could the Patriots go from four wins
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to ten wins? It sounds like a lot, but I
think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The Patriots are a lot. I have heard a lot
of people talking about the Patriots. They are kind of
an introduced Okay, similarly, who's the team that we have
expectations of who's gonna stink?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I wouldn't say stink, but I mean I think, you know,
if the Lions won four fewer games, which is a
big difference, but I mean that's the difference between a
fifteen win team and an eleven win team. I could
see that happening, just with all the all the losses
on the coaching side of things, and you look at
the teams inside of the division are all going to
be really, really competitive and tough. You know, I could
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see that being a team that kind of flips a
little bit from from what we saw. And then you know,
I'm looking around the rest of the league, and you know,
I would say Houston just with the offensive line scares me.
But I think their defense is so good and I
think the quarterbacks really talented. So you know, I don't
think they take a massive drop from where they were,
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but those that would be the second one that kind
of came to mind, just because the offensive line will
see how that all comes together.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
How does Donald do in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I'm bullish, but you know, you know me like, I'm yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We're locked in that we're big Sam.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Do guys know that we're Sam Donald guys? And I
you know, this is the thing that I love is,
you know, in the media, if you always say people
are always looking to find what fortifies their original opinion,
and you know we can be guilty of that, I
guess for riding the Sam through some tough times. But
the funniest question I've been asked us on a million
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shows this year, including at the network, who is the
real Sam Donald? The one we saw for fifteen weeks
or the one we saw for two weeks. I'm like, oh,
the one we saw for two weeks where he got
sacked in one of the games where he got sacked
nine times, the other game where he got hit twelve times.
Like yeah, I'm not gonna throw out the fifteen good
games for the two where he got you know, where
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their offensive line got destroyed. So I still think he
can play. I like the way they've built that system.
You know, it's with Pint Kubiak up there. They've looked
good in the preseason. They've upgraded the offensive line with
Greg's Abels, a really good rookie. I think the cel Seahawks,
to be honest with you, that might be my best
sleeper team in terms of winning the division. I could
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easily see them win that division.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Awesome stuff. As always, Hey DJ, you're the best man.
Thanks so much for joining us. Let's talk next week.
Appreciate you be our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You're a good friend. Thanks for not mentioning the padres.
I'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
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Isaac Loncron the Press. What do you got there?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I all right, Doug. One of the items that we
mentioned today was the Chicago Bears signing backup quarterback Tyson
Bagent to a two year contract extension worth up to
sixteen million dollars with ten million guaranteed. Now, the other
part of the story was the surprisingly emotional reaction he
had at a news conference earlier today. This is one
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of the coolest things you're gonna hear all day. Listen.
It is about forty seconds.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Yeah, I think that you know, a lot of people
don't know this, but you know, my dad is my
he's my right hand man, and he didn't he didn't
have running water until he was in high school. So
there's definitely a lot of things that and people that
I could that I think I could certainly help with
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this gift I've been blessed with. But yeah, just little
things like that. You know, I don't really know anybody
back at home with any money, So yeah, it feels good.
I mean, it's certainly a weight off my shoulders and
my family's shoulders, and yeah, it definitely means a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Again. That was Bear's quarterback Tyson Bagent earlier today.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's pretty awesome. I mean, he was a really good story.
You know, came in in his first start and won
a game and obviously leveled off some. But I mean
it's it's really we have the same thing here. Like
all you can ever hope for, no matter how much
you pay somebody to play sports, is that they they
appreciate it. You know, they appreciate understand. It's like my
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now former assistant, Jordan McKay used to say, whenever we
would get it was dark after game. Hey man, we're
getting paid to coach kids game. So he's getting paid
to play a kid's game. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Jordan McKay. By the way, at what grand can you now?
Is that the case?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
All right, the the Lopes, if you will. All right,
Another item about an NFL quarterback. There was a scare
at Baltimore Ravens practice today. Lamar Jackson was knocked down
during practice. He got up and left the field with
the medical staff about forty minutes before practice ended, and
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reporters who were president at the practice, watched him flexing
his right hand in his right wrist, which is big
time cause for worry for the Frameranchise quarterbacks. So he
leaves the field forty minutes early. Raven fans are freaking
out on social media, but it turned out the reason
he left practice is on that play he was actually
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stepped on by a player on his foot, not his
hand or wrist, and the Ravens said that Lamar will
be fine after getting his foot stepped on, nothing wrong
with his hand or wrist.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it's it's always a it's a hard one, right,
Like you have to have guys go through game reps
in order to get them ready for games. But there's
so many things that can go wrong, even in eleven
on zero, right, somebody could step on your foot. But
I mean, Jay Stu, you and I have discussed this
at length. It's like the least the less they practice,
the worse it looks. And I do like that there's
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more of these starters getting more reps in game action
in the preseason, and I think, you know, the product
should be at least a little bit better. And again
this is a Jay Stu Philosophy's the zuopa tour where
people keep paying money despite the fact that the product
isn't as good. We'll see if the product improves this year.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And zu Ropa. Just to be clear, the NFL puts
out a product they know is inferior to what it
used to be to see if we'll buy it. And
we will and we are and we will. Zuropa was
the album that came after Octung Baby. Now people remember
Octungbaby had all the great singles on it, but it
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was a complete departure from Joshua Tree. They came off
two incredible, commercially successful albums and they said, let's put
out a complete piece of crap and see if the
public buys it. And that was Zuropa. I think the
NFL is putting out Zuropa every single season.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now, let's see.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
But by the way, about this Lamar Jackson thing. Just
for fun and because I I kind of have a
skewed sense of humor, uh, I went and I looked
at the comments beneath the initial tweets when Jackson first
left the field with his hand and his wrist. Franny,
whoever touched Lamar in practice should be cut Jackson? Muse
(37:11):
who did it? Matt uh oh bark side of life
as a Bengals fan. I approved this message and at
Todd Jones five comments and quote, Raven's looking to make
a deal for Shador. So that's another thing you can
guarantee the slightest.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Anybody needs a quarterback. I told you he's the new Kaepernick. Yes,
he's any quarterback that performs poorly or it goes down.
The first name you will hear is no longer calling
Kaepernick be you know they should take a looking trade
for Door Sanders.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
All right, and our final item on this edition.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well on Jace, Dude, did I call that? Last week?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You did? You called it? And I will say that
I always love it when when Isaac reads random tweets
Doug Gottwieb, knowing that Doug Gottlieb hates random.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's literally my least favorite thing. And I know if
you've been on when I've discus doesn't come from you.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
That's why I do it though just to annoy.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It comes for people to understand, it comes from these
like E Hollywood or Yahoo reports are like people are
saying that j Lo's dress was inappropriate? Who are people?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Absolutely theirs? And I love the press conference people the
subjects who say excuse me, people or you. But yeah,
I just do that to mess with the people.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Say it's in the newsroom.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's someone's just like, oh she looks fat.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
In this particular case, people are saying that people in
this particular case. I do do it to annoy Doug.
I have to admit that very annoyed by Thank you,
Sean McDonough making a camp. New PGA Tour CEO Brian
Rolapp has formed a nine person Future Competition Committee chaired
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by Tiger Woods to define the quote optimal competitive model
that enhances the PGA Tour's value to fans, players and partners.
Roll Ups said, the goal is not incremental change. The
goal is significant change. I make our sport more exciting
to stave off Live Golf, and Tiger Woods is the
chairman of the committee.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I don't know if it's to stave off It's like, look,
Baseball has modernized itself. Football on some levels has modernized itself. Basketball,
you know, they when they change the rules, it's become
very finescual. But they modernize themselves. What can golf Do's
that's a challenge, and I'm sure Live Golf is part
of it, but I think overall it's just it's still
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very country club, very slow, very white. And that's the press,
and that they get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We got some good things, good things working, good things working.
Every day we do something called the mid not every day.
Every Wednesday we do something called the Midway. It's the
middle of the week, Wednesday, middle of the day, middle
of our show. Yeah, you know, we have an hour
podcast drops after the show. It's called in the Bonus,
So three hours. This is the middle and sometimes we
(01:25):
go off hardcore sports. But we find a topic that
we want to throw around and we call it the Midway.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He's not getting the middle it's time for the Midway.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So uh, it's an easy topic for us. Jason Stewart's
all all over this. It's National Radio Day. He had
a cool tweet pictures of him with his illustrious career
and I'm in. But there's lots of different elements to it.
So Jace, do how do you want to talk about national.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Rings from here?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think that's a different between if we do the math.
If we do the math, I've got almost thirty years in.
I think you've got over twenty. Isaac after he interned
for Steve Carbones, has put in what.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Five plus it was lower than an intern and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Then Sam's got a good fifteen.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
We're at like eighty five years here.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's a lot a lot of radio, a lot of sports, radio,
to be specific. I just kind of wanted to touch
base about the industry on National Radio Day because it's
just it's obviously something that's been in the country for
what decades and decades, but landscapes change, paradigms shift, and
(02:47):
I want to talk about the medium that I love
so dearly, and if I could, I'll just start with this. Okay,
there are a lot of people that have podcasts. I
think I think the number was thirty two million at
last count, thirty two million podcasts around the world, So
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there are a lot of people just putting on their
computer what we have been doing for many years talking.
And I think that there has been a couple downstream
impact impacts, impact impactfulness, downstream effects of that. I think
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the standards of actual radio broadcast, the presentation of it
has lowered a little bit, and I think they're just
kind of is a there's been a gradual lacking of
appreciation for the traditional way of doing this. Now Doug
didn't do it traditionally, but I think Sam and Isaac
(03:50):
and I we studied this in college. We paid our
dues through internships, and we came up through the system,
and I think that that on a resume is no
longer very impressive. So those are kind of my thoughts
in twenty twenty five about sports radio.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I here's here's mine. Obviously it's different when you're on
the town side as opposed to production side. For people
who don't know this, I actually got asked the question
yesterday by one of my new assistant coaches, and they
were like, why do you still do the radio, And
I said, because I love it. I love radio. Like,
(04:32):
where where does that go back from? I was like, well,
to be honest, my dad used to like old time
radio and he had old time radio cassette tapes because
they used to I don't know if you know this,
Jase too. There's a station in Los Angeles kN X,
which was the one of the two old news stations,
(04:53):
and on I think Saturday nights, maybe in Sunday nights,
but I think it was Saturday nights, they would play
an hour of old time radio.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Oh, yes, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, And my dad was He's not that old, but
he was like an old soul. So he's born in
nineteen forty, so he sort of missed, you know, the
golden era of World War two radio, you know, but
he was a fan of Burns and Allen, the Bickersons,
the Jack Benny Show, and he bought these cassette tapes
(05:25):
and there's still my mom's house and we used to
listen to him and we drive around southern California and
we listened to old time radio amazing and then you know,
fast forward to when you know, then sports radio. When
I was in high school, I grew up on Ley
Hacksaw Hamilton. I want to talk sports with you.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Where are you on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Touchdown San Diego?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Anyway, Baha to the Canadian Rockies.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
There you go?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Can I guess a hileye call?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And late at night there was this wild show where
guys would call in and talk smack and order out
drug duk drug tests for somebody who did something stupid
in the world of sports. That was Jim Rowe.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
How great is that?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right? So, you know you had the Rat Family, you
had Monica Mouse, you know you had Oh it's so good.
So it's really interesting now when you have a bad
day or you have a tough season like we had
last year, like the two of the things I dreamed
of growing up I get to do every day, which
(06:34):
is coach college basketball and have a sports radio show.
I think it's awesome, and I wonder I don't know
how it gets delivered, you know, from your now, but
I do think that there's always going to be a
value to the live sports radio instant reaction stuff. I
(06:54):
just do. I realized that, you know, AM radio is
being being pushed out on some level. I know how
many podcasts. I know you can do longer form interviews
and you can get some great stuff. I agree with
Jay stew And that for every great podcast interview, there's
a million that are terrible, terrible. Not that sports radio
(07:18):
or live radio is always the best, but you definitely
get it up to the minute. And I can think
of one hundred different things that happened while I was
on radio, the Boston Marathon, bombing, Red Sox, Yankees, Aaron
effing Boone, right, like so many things happen while I
was on radio. That it's all about your instant reaction
(07:38):
as an educated sports fan, and that's what makes it
great to me. So and yeah, I do I think
that all of these shows are great. No, but because
it's getting condensed. I mean, we have you have two
Hall of Famers in our lineup and The great thing
about Dan and Colin is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You were talking about me and Isaac.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm sorry, I didn't even think it was talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The great thing about those two is I think Colin
is into the maybe second part of his prime, and
I still think Dan just so delivers. He's the guy
that we feel like has been in our lives since
childhood because he was the face of Sports Center. So yeah,
I think there's a lot of crap out there, but
(08:27):
I think our lineup is as good as anything that
there's ever been in sports radio. And I think you
only have that because others have fallen by the wayside
and there's not the competition for live radio the way
there was previously. I also think, like, look, there's just
this is a hard medium to do. It's hard to
be able to react, have a take. Do things have
interviews where you have a time limit, you know, you
(08:49):
can't just go blow through breaks. I think that stuff
is hard, and I do think that we've been doing
it long enough to where we maybe even sometimes.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Take it for granted.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I will, can I get a botchy ball call from
Chula Vista? Sorry I couldn't resist. All right, I'll say
this from the perspective of someone who is on air
and is not part of the business side, which I
think is way more difficult. My anecdotal experience based on
(09:21):
the people that I hear from on social media, great
fans of Fox Sports radio and other things, and the
people I hear from in volume in a cross section
of location, I think more people than ever are listening
to the radio, and more people are listening than even
(09:41):
people in the business think are listening. But the challenge
in this day or age, this day and age is
how to accurately measure that and how to monetize that that.
As someone who is in the on air, I think
that is really challenging and something that I have.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's because for people who don't understand this, okay, there
are different ways in which they've tracked ratings. It's you know,
they used to be yet to fill out like a journal,
and now they have these little monitors you can you
can have on your hip whatever. Whereas podcasts you can
see the number of downloads, and some guys can inflate
those numbers. There's there's tricks for getting in algorithms and whatever,
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but but generally for a podcast you can track it.
For radio, it's kind of a you gotta take a
word for it sort of thing. But I agree with you.
You know, I cannot tell you how many places I go.
And you guys know I travel a lot. Where I
was in Tennessee that started last week, and you know,
I walk into a restaurant and hey, I listen to
your radio show. You know, it's not I download your podcast.
(10:50):
That's your radio show. I get in southern California. I
get it when I travel here and we're on in Appleton,
I get it wherever I I was in Chicago the
Cubs game, I get a hey. You know, so I
agree with you. I people still because this is a relationship.
You know, I've been doing this long enough. I was
on air when my I got called, the ways my
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kids were born. You know, I've gone through every different
stage of life so far in twenty five years being
on the radio. And you don't get that as much
with with podcasts. So I you know, I'm I'm with you, though,
Ilo it is tricky how to monetize it. That's not
necessarily our job. How to measure it not necessarily a job,
but it does affect our job.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And this is also a different way about expressing why
I remain and again I'm biased, but I remain high
on the future of radio and its permanent place in
our society. Let's say, in a non sports way, an
earthquake hits here in southern California or some other Heaven
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forbid disaster across the country. What's always going to be
reliable as your way to commute, particularly in your car,
It's going to be the radio. What is the instant
live thing. I mean, I remember, as not someone in
the business, but as just a listener when I heard
that Shohyotani signed with the Dodgers in the summer, in
the off season before twenty twenty four, I was out
(12:16):
and about the first thing I did turn on the
radio because I want to hear people talking about something
that's happening in real time. And from a oddly mechanical standpoint,
you're in your car, it is mechanically easier to listen
to the radio. All you do is make one movement
as you're driving, especially if the station you want to
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listen to that's carrying Fox Sports Radio is already there.
But if you want to listen to a podcast, there
are more physical and mechanical movements when you're driving a
car to select it depending on your car, or I
got to scroll to this, I gotta get this app.
But literally, with radio, your one physical movement and done.
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And for those reasons, I think there's always going to
be a place for radio in our society. The challenge
is always going to be how to monitor accurately the
number of listeners and how to monetize it.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Radio piggyback off of Isaac's point there, radio is just
sharing now more of the pie of people, you know,
the general listening and viewing audience. I want to Isaac
brings up a great point radio and I want to
just in general, like Sports Center, just things where people
pick out the stories for you and presented to you.
Was is and always will be a hands free endeavor.
(13:30):
Right you're driving, you can't look on people say, now
you're on Twitter, you can just get all your highlights
on Twitter. Well, that involves, like you said, Isaac, scrolling
and looking around. The thing about Sports Center, the thing
about radio shows is that they pick out the stuff
for you and then you if you're working with your hands,
you're doing dishes, you're driving, that entertainment is brought to
you you don't have to use your phone, you don't
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have to look at a little rectangle. You are being
entertained with your ears and with TV with your eyes
and ears. And I don't think that'll ever go away,
because there will be a lot of things we still
do with our hands besides touching our phone and using
our phone. We need radio because it's it's like, in
a way, it's like a two it's like a two
dimensional thing like it. It's not about your hands, you're
you're all your senses. It's about hearing, it's about listening,
(14:13):
or it's about if it's on TV, it's about watching
and listening. So I think it'll always be relevant. We're
just sharing more of the pie now.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
And I would also juxtapose that with what seems counterintuitive,
but I think the future of traditional over the air
television is actually in deeper trouble because you're seeing live
sports start to go way from traditional television now to
Netflix and YouTube, and the same for entertainment. So I
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think that that arguably is in danger of facing the
same challenges the radio is. But I think radio will
always be there.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I do think I think audio will always be there.
I think that getting into the phone has been the
biggest thing, right and the iHeartRadio app is just awesome.
And now we have that preset to where you can
just again because this is to your point, it's a
lot like the challenges for writers. You know that I
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think people read. I could be wrong because some of
this has shifted, but I thought for a long time
people read more. They just weren't reading newspapers, you know,
you're reading online articles. And I think people listen to
audio now way more than they used to write. How
many people, you know, like if you suggest even books,
they listen to books on tape or you know, it's
like I got I got a podcast for you, I
(15:36):
got a radio show for you. And so the challenge
is how to make it so that everyone has headphones in,
especially in every major city in the country. How do
you get it so that you're delivering every time you
hop in the car, Like I would love to get
to the point where there's instead of just a you know,
serious XM button or an auxiliary button or a Bluetooth button,
(15:57):
there's a Fox Sports radio button, you know, selfishly, a
Doug Gottlieb button right where you just press it. That's
my guy I listen to his content. You know, it's
like Howard Stern had his own channel and then he
had his own archives or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Like.
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So we'd all agree, Miles Garrett's really talented dude, right well,
and I just look, there's been a lot of little things.
I mean, you know, he basically said goodbye to Cleveland
(18:03):
then re signed after saying Cleveland couldn't win a Super Bowl.
You know, friend of mine's quarterback for the Steelers. He
said he dropped the most derogatory racial epitaph in the
middle of a football game, which is why Miles Garrett,
you know, had a dirty hit on him and yet
(18:24):
no one else heard it, and he's never sort of
been accountable for it. So once you take a listen
to Q and A. This is a local reporter, I
thought pretty cleverly trying to talk about him speeding yet again,
Remember he flipped his Porsche going back to last year,
then gets caught speeding one hundred and a sixty in
early in the morning after a preseason game. Take a
listen to this Q and A with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'd honestly rather talk about football on his team than
anything I'm doing off field, other than the back.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
To school no event that I did the other day.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
But I mean, people want mightn't know about that. You
want to know a lot of things. Yeah, people want
to know a lot of things. I'm not talking about
the fact that I was speeding and that the reporter
is like, what's it like in the car when you're
going that fast? That? Which is? Which was cute? It's
not that hard to go. Yeah, you know, it was
(19:16):
early in the morning. I was trying to get home.
I'll try not to do it again. I'll be better.
But that's not who Miles Garrett is. It's pretty obvious
no contrition over any of this stuff. Let's bring in
Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks to his podcast. He worked
for now. I worked for ESPN, I guess right, NFL Network,
The Chargers, Uh, he's the Chargers color analyst on radio
(19:39):
DJ Miles Garrett, like, how would you He's obviously magnificently talented,
but there's been so many of these little things to
where he's never come back and said, my bad. How
do you view him in the grand scheme of things,
all things considered, Well.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I think this particular one is just it's not a
good look. It's always best just to go ahead and
just take some accountability, you know, put your you know,
kind of your proverbial hand up in the air and say, hey,
I've got to you know, I've got to be better.
I got to make better decisions, better choices. And I
think you kind of you move on and you just
go on and make better decisions and better choices. But
(20:18):
I've seen this not just with him. You know, a
lot's been made about the Georgia football team and all
the issues they've had with speeding. But you know, I
feel like, in some ways, Doug, like every year I'm
getting background on players going into the draft that it's
less like this guy's got a drug problem, or he's
got an alcohol issue, or he's even like he's maybe
(20:39):
it had issues with women. I like, the most growing
trend I see with young guys coming up is this
is this issue right here. I don't know if it's
because and this wasn't Miles' case, but a lot of
these athletes now have money, and they're younger, and they're
you know, getting these fast cars, and and uh, you're
starting to see this more and more. So I do
think it's a discussion that probably it needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I definitely I do as well. I mean, again, this
is not I'm not clutching my pearls. I drive too fast.
Probably the best thing for me now is the fact
that one of my cars that's electric, you know, if
you drive distances like it's I don't like stopping to charge.
So I actually drive a lot more of the speed
(21:23):
limit in that car than I ever have. And I
drive trucks now, so it's not as much speeding, but
I drive too fast, so I'll be accountable for it.
And I'm an aggressive driver. But the kids out there
getting ridiculously nice cars in college, and all of us
have been young drivers before. We should not be driving
brand new, really nice, high end cars. We're just not
(21:45):
there in terms of our you.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Know cars, that's what we're looking for. Safe cars.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, but like, look, this is a it's a
real thing that, you know, the Georgia's had all these
problems with issues with cars. Other schools have had issues
with guns. But one of the reasons guys have guns.
It's not just gun culture, but also like, hey, I
got a nice car. Now everybody knows I got money.
I feel like I'm a target and I do think
that an NFL star, like a Miles Garrett, He's not
(22:14):
going to change everybody's opinion, but he can help it
by saying, look, man, I gotta, I gotta I gotta
be smarter about this. I gotta I gotta do better.
I mean, you would think once you flip a car,
that's the last time you do it, but that's probably
not it. Uh Right now, So the Browns they named
Flacco the starting quarterback. What do you think the smartest
(22:36):
course of action for them going in the season is
going to be in regards to the other quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well, they're in a little bit of a of a
pickle here, you know, because they've they've you know, they've
got a situation where I thought from the outside it
was okay, well, you don't want to lose either of
the rookies because they're still you know, in a developmental mode.
You wouldn't be able to get either one of them
down to the practice squad. H In my opinion, I
think that they'd get claimed so and Flacco as a starter,
(23:05):
so it's you know, I don't really see him keeping four.
So Kenny Pickett would seem to be, you know, someone
that they were excited about but hasn't stayed healthy and
would kind of make him the odd man out. But
then I talk to people around that building and they
talk about how much they left Kenny Pickett. So I'm like, well,
that's that's a little bit of a conundrum. Then I
guess you're going to try and carry four, you know,
(23:26):
and maybe you know, you get some injury that you
could stash one of one of the three guys. Maybe
that's Picket's injury. I don't know, but that carrying fours
is uh, it's tough to do. But that, uh, that's
kind of where they find themselves right now. I was
thinking it would oll okay, they'll they'll move on from
Kenny Pickett, but unless something changes as we get to
the cutdown date, I was kind of led to believe
(23:49):
that they don't really want to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, I'm interested in like Miles Garrett, the stuff things
still not done. When do you feel like it has
to be done by in order to in order for
him to be himself opening? I mean, Michael Parsons, I'm sorry,
Michael Parson, what do you think it has to be
done by?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, I mean some of these guys and you know
this douglike just in everything. I don't but yeah, and
some of them are just such physical freaks where you know,
you kind of think of the normal person, what type
of runway do you need to get up and ready
to go and you know, getting used to contact and
getting in quote unquote football shape. Micah Parsons kind of
(24:29):
falls into one of those freak freaky dude type categories. So, uh,
you know, I think he could get this thing done
the week of the first game and show up and
be no worse for the wear. He's just one of
those rare, rare physical guys like that who just did
not like the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, no, he's definitely not like the rest of us. Anthey,
Richardson's agent said that the trust between them and the
franchise is questionable as he's now the number two quarterback
in Indie. But like you know, what do you think
is the logical reason or maybe a logical reason that
(25:10):
the Colts named Danny Dimes the starter and not.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Richardson because they need to win games. I don't think
it's any more complicated than that. They just felt like
he was going to give them a better chance to
win games this year. And you know they Normally, when
you have a closer competition and there's not vast separation,
you go with the young guy a couple of reasons.
Number one, you invested the high pick in him, and
(25:33):
number two, that kind of gives you, you know, hope
for the future, uh and all those things. So okay,
that that makes sense. Well, this is different. You've got
someone who you've got the new head coach there who's
not committed to him. You've got, you know, got a
situation where there's there is no next year. They need
to win right now, so all that stuff kind of
goes out the window. And I think there's a trust
factor with Daniel Jones, and I know you know that
(25:57):
there's you don't want to put put it all on
one situation and say, oh, this is something they couldn't
get over. But I said it at the time when
we I think we even had a conversation about it.
You know, when a quarterback taps out and takes himself
out of a game because he's tired, that's a tough
one to get out of the back of your head, man,
And I'm sure some of that lingered within the locker
room it. I was curious to see what the reaction
(26:18):
was going to be when he was named the starter,
and you saw a lot of, you know, quotes from
players on that team that were pretty effusive in their
praise of Daniel Jones, which as much as it says
about Daniel Jones, I also questioned what it says about
Richards Vett.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, saw this story. This from an NFL executive told
a Vegas Raiders beat writer in a conversation with the
NFL executive, I have no doubt the Raiders are the
front runners. Tom Brady and Mark Davis want to win
one to win now he thinks of the front runners
(26:53):
for Trey Hendrickson, is that a smart investment for the Raiders?
Are they a pass rusher away from being competitive?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I mean, Pete's seventy three years old, so that's you know,
that's why it kind of makes sense. You went out
and hired Pete because you want to win right now,
be competitive right now. You went out and got yourself
a veteran quarterback in Gino. I think their roster is
incredibly thin. I think if they could have one of
those years where everybody you know, stays healthy, they're key
(27:21):
guys that they could you know, they could push to
potentially be a wildcard team. But I don't know that
they're equipped to be able to withstand the inevitable injuries
that are going to come. I just don't see a
lot of roster depth there. So it's a little bit
of a high wire act and that would but that's
kind of you know, isn't kind of the risky bold thing.
(27:42):
Isn't that kind of what the Raiders have you know,
have always been about. So I guess it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
No, it wouldn't surprise me. But that's that's the rate.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
They better stay healthy, though, I mean, they lose one
offensive lineman, they're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
There's gotta be so somebody we're missing. Who are we
missing In the discussion of quality teams playoff teams, who's
the least discussed team that you think is a playoff
caliber team.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, I was looking at this the other day and
kind of just going to the standings from last year.
I'm like, who is it going to be? Who's going
to be that team? I was trying to figure out
the most improved teams. And obviously we've talked plenty about
Chicago and Ben Johnson and Caleb looking like he's, you know,
hopefully taking a step forward. I was looking at it
from last year and just if you just look at
(28:33):
the rosters, the difference between the Patriots roster last year
and this year is a pretty start. And I would
even say even on the coaching side of things, I
think they've made a lot of upgrades. I think you
see Drake May you know, play better in a second year.
And I look inside that division and I see a
Dolphins team that seems like they're a little bit kind
(28:53):
of flustered, a little bit in flux. You don't know
what you're gonna get from them. The Jets, you know,
we don't know what justin fields that all defense is
going to look like. And you've got the Bills, who
you know, obviously have the MVP and they've got a
good defense. They're gonna more than likely win that division,
but I think the Patriots could potentially get one of
those games. So could the Patriots go from four wins
(29:14):
to ten wins? It sounds like a lot, but I
think it's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The Patriots are a lot. I have heard a lot
of people talking about the Patriots. They are kind of
an introduced Okay, similarly, who's the team that we have
expectations of who's gonna stink?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I wouldn't say stink, but I mean I think, you know,
if the Lions won four fewer games, which is a
big difference, but I mean that's the difference between a
fifteen win team and an eleven win team. I could
see that happening, just with all the all the losses
on the coaching side of things, and you look at
the teams inside of the division are all going to
be really, really competitive and tough. You know, I could
(29:54):
see that being a team that kind of flips a
little bit from from what we saw. And then you know,
I'm looking around the rest of the league, and you know,
I would say Houston just with the offensive line scares me.
But I think their defense is so good and I
think the quarterbacks really talented. So you know, I don't
think they take a massive drop from where they were,
(30:16):
but those that would be the second one that kind
of came to mind, just because the offensive line will
see how that all comes together.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
How does Donald do in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I'm bullish, but you know, you know me like, I'm yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We're locked in that we're big Sam.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Do guys know that we're Sam Donald guys? And I
you know, this is the thing that I love is,
you know, in the media, if you always say people
are always looking to find what fortifies their original opinion,
and you know we can be guilty of that, I
guess for riding the Sam through some tough times. But
the funniest question I've been asked us on a million
(30:50):
shows this year, including at the network, who is the
real Sam Donald? The one we saw for fifteen weeks
or the one we saw for two weeks. I'm like, oh,
the one we saw for two weeks where he got
sacked in one of the games where he got sacked
nine times, the other game where he got hit twelve times.
Like yeah, I'm not gonna throw out the fifteen good
games for the two where he got you know, where
(31:12):
their offensive line got destroyed. So I still think he
can play. I like the way they've built that system.
You know, it's with Pint Kubiak up there. They've looked
good in the preseason. They've upgraded the offensive line with
Greg's Abels, a really good rookie. I think the cel Seahawks,
to be honest with you, that might be my best
sleeper team in terms of winning the division. I could
(31:32):
easily see them win that division.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Awesome stuff. As always, Hey DJ, you're the best man.
Thanks so much for joining us. Let's talk next week.
Appreciate you be our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You're a good friend. Thanks for not mentioning the padres.
I'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
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Isaac Loncron the Press. What do you got there?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I all right, Doug. One of the items that we
mentioned today was the Chicago Bears signing backup quarterback Tyson
Bagent to a two year contract extension worth up to
sixteen million dollars with ten million guaranteed. Now, the other
part of the story was the surprisingly emotional reaction he
had at a news conference earlier today. This is one
(33:00):
of the coolest things you're gonna hear all day. Listen.
It is about forty seconds.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Yeah, I think that you know, a lot of people
don't know this, but you know, my dad is my
he's my right hand man, and he didn't he didn't
have running water until he was in high school. So
there's definitely a lot of things that and people that
I could that I think I could certainly help with
(33:28):
this gift I've been blessed with. But yeah, just little
things like that. You know, I don't really know anybody
back at home with any money, So yeah, it feels good.
I mean, it's certainly a weight off my shoulders and
my family's shoulders, and yeah, it definitely means a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Again. That was Bear's quarterback Tyson Bagent earlier today.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's pretty awesome. I mean, he was a really good story.
You know, came in in his first start and won
a game and obviously leveled off some. But I mean
it's it's really we have the same thing here. Like
all you can ever hope for, no matter how much
you pay somebody to play sports, is that they they
appreciate it. You know, they appreciate understand. It's like my
(34:10):
now former assistant, Jordan McKay used to say, whenever we
would get it was dark after game. Hey man, we're
getting paid to coach kids game. So he's getting paid
to play a kid's game. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Jordan McKay. By the way, at what grand can you now?
Is that the case?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
All right, the the Lopes, if you will. All right,
Another item about an NFL quarterback. There was a scare
at Baltimore Ravens practice today. Lamar Jackson was knocked down
during practice. He got up and left the field with
the medical staff about forty minutes before practice ended, and
(34:49):
reporters who were president at the practice, watched him flexing
his right hand in his right wrist, which is big
time cause for worry for the Frameranchise quarterbacks. So he
leaves the field forty minutes early. Raven fans are freaking
out on social media, but it turned out the reason
he left practice is on that play he was actually
(35:11):
stepped on by a player on his foot, not his
hand or wrist, and the Ravens said that Lamar will
be fine after getting his foot stepped on, nothing wrong
with his hand or wrist.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it's it's always a it's a hard one, right,
Like you have to have guys go through game reps
in order to get them ready for games. But there's
so many things that can go wrong, even in eleven
on zero, right, somebody could step on your foot. But
I mean, Jay Stu, you and I have discussed this
at length. It's like the least the less they practice,
the worse it looks. And I do like that there's
(35:44):
more of these starters getting more reps in game action
in the preseason, and I think, you know, the product
should be at least a little bit better. And again
this is a Jay Stu Philosophy's the zuopa tour where
people keep paying money despite the fact that the product
isn't as good. We'll see if the product improves this year.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And zu Ropa. Just to be clear, the NFL puts
out a product they know is inferior to what it
used to be to see if we'll buy it. And
we will and we are and we will. Zuropa was
the album that came after Octung Baby. Now people remember
Octungbaby had all the great singles on it, but it
(36:24):
was a complete departure from Joshua Tree. They came off
two incredible, commercially successful albums and they said, let's put
out a complete piece of crap and see if the
public buys it. And that was Zuropa. I think the
NFL is putting out Zuropa every single season.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now, let's see.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
But by the way, about this Lamar Jackson thing. Just
for fun and because I I kind of have a
skewed sense of humor, uh, I went and I looked
at the comments beneath the initial tweets when Jackson first
left the field with his hand and his wrist. Franny,
whoever touched Lamar in practice should be cut Jackson? Muse
(37:11):
who did it? Matt uh oh bark side of life
as a Bengals fan. I approved this message and at
Todd Jones five comments and quote, Raven's looking to make
a deal for Shador. So that's another thing you can
guarantee the slightest.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Anybody needs a quarterback. I told you he's the new Kaepernick. Yes,
he's any quarterback that performs poorly or it goes down.
The first name you will hear is no longer calling
Kaepernick be you know they should take a looking trade
for Door Sanders.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
All right, and our final item on this edition.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well on Jace, Dude, did I call that? Last week?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You did? You called it? And I will say that
I always love it when when Isaac reads random tweets
Doug Gottwieb, knowing that Doug Gottlieb hates random.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's literally my least favorite thing. And I know if
you've been on when I've discus doesn't come from you.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
That's why I do it though just to annoy.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It comes for people to understand, it comes from these
like E Hollywood or Yahoo reports are like people are
saying that j Lo's dress was inappropriate? Who are people?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Absolutely theirs? And I love the press conference people the
subjects who say excuse me, people or you. But yeah,
I just do that to mess with the people.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Say it's in the newsroom.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's someone's just like, oh she looks fat.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
In this particular case, people are saying that people in
this particular case. I do do it to annoy Doug.
I have to admit that very annoyed by Thank you,
Sean McDonough making a camp. New PGA Tour CEO Brian
Rolapp has formed a nine person Future Competition Committee chaired
(38:54):
by Tiger Woods to define the quote optimal competitive model
that enhances the PGA Tour's value to fans, players and partners.
Roll Ups said, the goal is not incremental change. The
goal is significant change. I make our sport more exciting
to stave off Live Golf, and Tiger Woods is the
chairman of the committee.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I don't know if it's to stave off It's like, look,
Baseball has modernized itself. Football on some levels has modernized itself. Basketball,
you know, they when they change the rules, it's become
very finescual. But they modernize themselves. What can golf Do's
that's a challenge, and I'm sure Live Golf is part
of it, but I think overall it's just it's still
(39:37):
very country club, very slow, very white. And that's the press,
and that they get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
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