October 8, 2025 • 37 mins
On this edition of The Midway, Doug and the crew mention their favorite signature moments by great baseball players. Doug welcomes college football analyst RJ Young onto the show to break down the weekend of college football. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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then tomorrow we got more baseball, NFL football, college football.
We're in the middle of it. October is awesome and
today's a perfect example why we get you ready for
tonight's baseball games. We just had Dougie glennvill That was great.
Good get bye by Jason Stewart. R. J. Young's going
to join us in like twenty five minutes. We'll also
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talk about this Jonathan Gannon fine, which I think I
think people's take on it is so far off, But
again that's my opinion. What do I know. I'm just
a coach. Anyway, we'll get to that, but first let's
get to the midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's time for he stuck in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The midway, Okay, the midway. Every week, this is the
middle of the week, the middle of the day, the
middle of our show because we have a one hour
podcast after that goes live after this show. So we
come up with a topic. Sometimes it's sports, sometimes it's not.
It's something to get you through those middle of the week,
blue Jay stew what's topic today?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So I do want to do some what is it
called house cleaning. Because of the nature of this program,
we basically did the content I had scheduled for right now.
We did it to open the show, and I want
to do some house cleaning on that. First the top
of the show was Doug basically coming out saying that
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Aaron Judge's moment was spectacular, not to be diminished, and
it was an impossible pitch to hit out and we
should appreciate it more. I came out on the side
of if this is the signature moment for Aaron Judge,
it's an indictment on the Yankees. I think Dan's opinion
was somewhere close to mine, but probably much more articularly
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put from Brant Oliver, seems like I'm leaning more towards
Doug's side of this argument. However, I've yet to hear
anyone bring up Judge was a triple away from hitting
for the cycle and was thrown out at third trying
to get it. That would have been as much moment. Hey, Brent,
thanks for listening. You're wrong. Nobody would have remembered the
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triple as a cycle making his moment, but I appreciate
you listening. This one from Happy for Life seven. Happy
for Life seven says one thousand percent agree with Jason.
The call moment itself was cringey and so forced. This
is the LEDs. They're down two following zero other big
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moments in the past. About two or three moments from
this one is his true one, especially if tonight is
a dud.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So to catch the listeners up here who missed that
first hour and you could always podcast it on the
iHeartRadio app. Aaron Judge had an amazing moment last night
hitting a ball off the foul pole, fair pole as
Mike Lingard keeps screaming at us fair pole, And it
was a really cool moment. I loved it. It's it's
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not as signal moment, and everyone on Twitter seemingly wanted
to give that to him. In fact, Colin cowhert let
off the show by saying this today, you need a moment.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Last night Aaron Judge, Yeah, finally had his moment.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I disagree. I hope that's not his moment for the
sake of his career and the future of the Yankees,
I hope it's not his moment. But I thought to
think about, like, what are some great signature moments in
baseball's postseason history by great players where you're like, oh,
of course, Like when you mentioned his accolades, you're like, oh,
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and he did this example, Joe Carter amazing had a
great career. It fell short of the Hall of Fame.
But if you'll get Joe Carter's numbers. They're very comparable.
It was pre steroid era Joe Carner's Joe Carter will
always be remembered for hitting that World Series winning home
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run off Mitch Williams and the ninth minute right signature moment,
hands down, without a question. So that's my contribution to today's midway.
Joe Carter hitting a World Series home run the last
time the Jay has won the World Series, by the.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Way, I mean, I think I'll give you one. And
I don't know how we view him in terms of
his clutchness, but it's it's eerily comparable on some level
to the Aaron Judge home run. Bayer, you can help
me out with this. Poolholes hit a home run off
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of against the Houston Astros and at the time I
think it was in the DS. Now it was a
walk off home run, right.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It was a walk off home run. I thought it
was in the the NLCS. It may have been, Yeah,
it may have been.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But he hit home run against the Astros. I'm trying
to think because the closure was later he bounced right,
he like, he didn't recover for several years. Then he
ultimately won series. It was Brad Lidge, Right, brad Lidge
at the time was I don't know if his best
closure in baseball. He's in the conversation and Brad Osmis
was his catcher. And I remember the story that the
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next day they were flying to Saint Louis for the
series and Ausmus grabbed the microphone. Is like, you're looking
outside the window, you can see the home run that
Albert Pool holes, right, and it was he was trying
to bring levity to it and it kind of backfired,
and Lydge was a mess for like a good year
and a half. He got it together and I think
wasn't with the Phillies. Wasn't it either closure when they
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won the World.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yes, yes, he did not blow a save that year, right,
he was so but it took.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Him a while. That's my That's the biggest Albert Pool
hoolest moment I can think of in the World Series
or I think of, and he not in the World Series,
but that was an I mean the fact that he
hit the ball out of the building. Yes, it was incredible.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Astros go on to win the series. They lose to
the White Sox in the World Series that year, but yeah,
that that moment stands out. Brad Lidge was the guest
that I was able to track down because he got
the final out of the eight World Series and I
was able to track him down for Fox Sports Radio
as they beat the Rays in a in a rain
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delayed game that they had to resume in the sixth inning.
I'll give you another name because I think that it
was a name that we all loved growing up, most
people loved, and it was Kirby Puckett of the Minnesota
Twins Game six, nineteen ninety one World Series and just
too yeah for the game. The the home runner is
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that Jack Buck with the with the call, So yeah,
Kirby Pucket.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's a great one. Hall of Famer by the way,
So he had an abridged career because he got hit
in the eye right goes to the Hall of Fame,
and then I remember him. This is his signature moment
with me. That scathing article written about.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Him and like he's just like the worst human being everyone,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So it's hard to look past those details at that
amazing home run and a great career. He was fun
to watch. What was he like five foot two?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, I'm going to get the official measurements.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean, he could take AL two in the post. Right,
he's bigger than OL two bay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
If who's AL two B and Kyler Murray had a baby,
it would be Kirby Pucket.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Clayton. Kershaw's signature moment.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Is what, now do you have one?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm asking, I'm asking, I'm asking Jay stew He's seen
every every game, every he's pitched.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I think, for the purpose of this exercise, if one
doesn't readily come to mind, that means he's disqualified. He
is going to go his career unless he unless he
has one this this October, He's going to go to
his career with that, that one signature moment. And I
think so that kind of adds to the conversation about
his postseason legacy.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Was five eights according to Baseball Reference.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Okay, so it's five o' five.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He was three inches.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, you always have to take three inches off of
the internet. Ask any woman that's been on tender pause.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Uh, Jeter, it's the it's the what is it the scoop.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
That of the dive headfirst, do the dive, the dive
into the stands. But the scoop was postseason, right, was
the dive postseason.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, that was a regular season game, which was the
dive into the stands was a regular season.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Really, yes, but the scoop was playoff game right against
the A's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, that one I remember again, specifically against the A's.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So Gibson is maybe the top of the Mount Rushmore here.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's literally the greatest baseball moment in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's like one of those things. I think, guys that
if Gibson ever made the Hall of Fame and they're
letting everybody in nowadays post humus, whatever the word is,
if I think on his plaque will be a reference
to the home runoff Eckers. But I mean, how many
Hall of Famers could have an actual moment in the
paragraph that sums up their career, you know, Like Willie
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Mays is in the Hall of Fame. His signature moment
is the nineteen fifty four catch running away from home
plate four hundred and twenty five feet from home plate.
But that catch is not in the summary of his
Hall of Fame career. It's not It is not on
the plaque.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh and unplaque in the play.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I was actually on TikTok within the last twenty four
hours and came upon this Goose Gossage sound bite how
the Padres are facing the Tigers in the eighty four
World Series and Gossage is about to be pulled and says, no,
I've been really really good against this guy. I'm really
really good at first pitch. Gibson homers and seals the
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deal for the Tigers. They win in nineteen eighty four.
So for Gibson to have two World Series home runs
is even more spectacular. But to start, contrast of how
we look at Gibson to what Joe Carter did in
winning the World Series, Gibson set the tone. Eckersley was
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Game one. Yes, the injury, the dramatics of it, but
in the moment, I think it's difficult to top what
Joe Carter did into hitting the walk off to win
it all.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's absolutely true. So I've always had my theory about this.
It's the Hollywood thing. Because it happened in Hollywood. It's
a Hollywood story. It is more magnified. What happened in
Philadelphia or Toronto is less significant in the grand scheme
of things narrative wise. But you're right, Joe Carter's was
the winning home run in a World Series. Kirk Gibson
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just started the series one zero. But if you factor
in everything, if you like explained it to your grandkids.
Eckersley had not walked one batter the entire season, and
he walked about her in front of Kirk Gibson. Eckersley's
era and his whip were almost zero the entire season.
It was a true David and Goliath. The A's had
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won like one hundred and ten games. The Dodgers were
not that great. I think Bob Cossis famously said it's
the worst lineup to ever play in a World Series.
So when you take those storylines, it kind of makes
sense why Gibson's has kind of tested the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I was gonna, hey, do you guys want to hear
Mike Trout's greatest postseason moment?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Please?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
You want to hear it again? And I'm an Angel fan.
There is one other part of this that we should
probably bring up. It's that the reason there's a reason
that so many of these guys that were great players,
that are Hall of famers don't have these moments because
I think those moments actually don't represent who the best
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players are, Like David Freese had two home runs for
the Cardinals in Game six, Game six of the World Series,
and they're both down to the last strike. I mean,
David Freese, his career flamed out afterwards. Like oftentimes, the
hitting hero is not the superstar, it's somebody around the superstar.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's the one thing that's that's unique about baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, the other side of that coin is is that
most Hall of famers never even get postseason chances.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, how many like Croud he got three chances
against Kanctate Chiefs, the kans City Worlds, and that's.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It correct, And it's like it's a long list of
people in the Hall of Fame that never even got
a chance for a moment. That's why it's so unique
that we're talking about this today. To have a Hall
of Fame player have a amazing moment in the postseason,
everything has to come together. I mean Reggie Jackson's three
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home runs in seventy seven and that the game against
the Dodgers, not one moment, but everyone associates Reggie with
those three home runs against the Dodgers in Game six
of the World Series.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I would also say that there's interesting there's names that
pop up, So like like Indie Chavez on the Mets,
Like you think of, you know, robbing the home run
in the NLCS in a game that they lost. Okay,
like the Cardinals went on to win the World Series,
but like that play is one that is still fondly
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remembered by by many, even Mets fans. Luis Gonzalez, I
don't think you think anything but Game seven, two thousand
and one, right like uh Edgar Rinteria ninety seven and
winning it for the Marlins. There's just names that I
think that that pop up and you immediately think of
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those individual single moments.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Like Pedro Martinez is probably the best picture of my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like I think, I think Pedro Martinez the best picture
I've ever seen. I've seen throw baseball. Again, I don't
I don't think that means he was and I don't study,
but like in terms of dominance of a picture, because
he had all the different things. He was a pitcher
who also had overwhelming stuff, right whereas like Maddox was
more about pitching as opposed to arm talent. I think
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Randy Johnson was unbelievably dominant, but a lot of that
was just the power size. You know, he could reach
halfway to home plate when he's throwing a baseball. Pedro
had all of it right, unbelievable movement, multiple pitches, and
then great power, great stuff. But his signature moment is
probably when he got lit up by the Yankees in
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three Isn't it? Like he had other moments, But that's
he had moments with the Indians when he was in
the playoffs where he was the best pitcher in baseball
and it was freaky stuff. The Indians just weren't that good.
So when he pitched, they won, and when he didn't pitch,
they didn't. Yeah, does Pedro have another signature moment?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No, No, Again, you're proving kind of the point of
the exercise here. If you can't think of one, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, I can think of what the one I can
think of as a negative. That's the thing with Petro.
I just going back out there in the seventh inning,
Grady Little shakes his hand, then tells him he's going
back in, goes back in and gets lit up.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, and that's his moment, just like Aaron Judge's signature,
A moment I think is an Aaron center field, but
pitched for the Indians, right, No, he pitched against him
a lot, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
No, I was, I was just gonna say, I think
that there's one name and io was. Sam brought it
up in the Break twenty ten that we stand out
we lost him too early. But Sam, you mentioned a
guy like Roy Halliday who had the uh.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The no no, Yeah, his sons just throw out the
first pitch in Game two. Ryan Berschinger actually helped me. Uh,
he came up with that, so I should give him
credit for that.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, No, that was. But he had a perfect game
that year and then throws the no hitter. I mean,
and you think of all of that. I mean, they
have a postseason no hitter only him and.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
A Wainwright game. He pitched incredible. He gave up one
run I don't even know if it's earned and lost
that game. Well that's the thing, to give up one
run to the Cardinals lose, and like nobody even mentioned
somebody cares.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well. You talk about starting pitchers, You've mentioned two in
this segment, Kershaw and Pedro Martinez. Like how hard is
it to have a signature moment? If you're a starting pitcher,
you literally have to do what Roy Halliday did and
pitch the entire game. Otherwise, who's going to remember you
striking out the side in the fourth inning of a
big game? I mean, Don Larson's perfect game is a
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perfect example. Larson wasn't a Hall of Famer, but he
threw a perfect game in the World Series. It's never happened.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And that is the midway, the midway.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and let's bring him in. He's r J. Young. He's
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analyst and host of that number one show. He's r J. Young.
He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show Texas Week
or Oklahoma Week if you're in Texas. Obviously, E've been
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following OU football since since birth. What do we know
about ja my tears status.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
We know that he is pushing the play. We know
that the thumb might not be fully healed, but it's
going according to plan, and usually if the player is
pushing the play, I expect him to play. Bandventable, for
his part, says he does not expect him to play
and has been going about his business as if he
does not expect him to play and he's getting tired
of beet. Asked, is John, but you're going to play
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on Saturday against Texas and I guess we'll all find
out together at two thirty pm on setting.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Arch Manning, how would you describe this first season as
a full time starter.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I think we set an expectation that he was going
to be tremendous, that he was going to be great,
and he was going to hit the ground running, based
in part on what we saw last year. I genuinely
believe that he is really talented. I think that he's
going to put it together. I also believe that it's
true for most quarterbacks, has proven to be true for
arch Manning, and that is quite simply. You need experience,
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you need reps, you need games. Started when I asked
quarterback coaches what it is that they are looking for
from high school players to translate to college and from
college players to translate to the NFL. At the quarterback position.
They all say the same thing, how many games did
the dude play? Because if he's played a lot of football,
that means he's seen a lot of football. That means
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that nothing that you throw at him is going to
be something he hadn't seen before. Hard to trick that person.
Art is going through that right now. He's getting shown
a lot of looks. He's getting shown a lot of
things he hasn't been exposed to in the speed of
the game is catching up to him.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think he's got and he's going to go against
a really talented, really well coached ou defense. Likelihood of
success for Texas offensively in the Red River shootout, oh man.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Let's put it at thirty three percent. Let's get it
at one thirty chance most, because the defense is way
better than I thought it would be at Oklahoma, like
full stop. I didn't think the defensive line would be
that good, and I didn't think that the cornerback play
would be that good. And Brent is diabolical when dialing
up how to unseat an uncomfortable quarterbacks. So if they
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can't run the ball at Texas, it's going to be
a long day. Because the one thing that Steve starts.
E's getting need to do to make the offense go
and make all that window dress work is to be
able to run the football. And if footballman is going
to stuff it, they're not going to have much offense
is cast at all.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Let's get some of the games this weekend. Indiana goes
to Oregon. Right, Indiana very very physical football team, and
they beat a very physical Iowa team then had a
week off after beating the pants off of Illinois at home.
But this is different, right, this is an Oregon team
that has looked many many times this year like a
national champion. What are your thoughts on IU traveling to
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Eugene to take on the Ducks.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't think that this game says so much about
Indiana as much as it says about Oregon. He's actually
giving us a lot of thoughts because when I look
at Oregon, I see the back end of their schedule
features letters Wisconsin, Iowa, USC, Washington, nobody you care about.
But if they lose this game, can they still make
the Big Ten Championship. It's likely possible, But given what
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we saw from Vince State Ecoa and how we build
up in State now, I think a loss to Indiana
could really hurt Oregon. On the other hand, Indiana beat
ore again, we got to start talking about them as
the national title contender because they don't play Ohio State
in the regular season this year. They would play them
if at all, in the Big Ten championship. We're in
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college football playoffs, and then we could we can make
our judgments based on what they did last year, in
which he's done this year. But I'm really really interested
to find out if Fernando Mendoza can go there and win.
It's a guy that got pelted last week again. Viola
just got a two weeks ago to beating Viola got
absolutely should and in getting destroyed, man he was, he
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was hurt. He was hurting pretty bad. Meanwhile, doctor Moore
went out and made a play when Drew Aller did not.
I think if it comes down to make him play
Dan Landy's going to give his guys an opportunity. The
thing to watch if you are in this game, though,
and I mean the sincerely. If Indiana gets off to
a fast start, it's done. It's over. If they they
score twenty one in the first quarter, they score twenty
one in the second quarter, and Oregon does not have
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a response. That's in Indiana win. That is how they've
been putting teams away. That's how they get on top
team very early. But if it's still a fifth fight
in the third quarter back the game that he went
to the run the Football.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Ohio State
almost feels like a forgotten team. I hear the number
one team in the country they beat you know, you
get a huge win to start the season, and because
they haven't played anybody of real substance, no one's talking
about them. Any chance to get tripped up in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Oh no is the short answer. I mean, I can,
I can unpack the analysis for you there, but no
is the short answer. Very quickly. Illinois hasn't been great
against top ten opponents, and particularly lou Gaultmeyer, who has
not thrown for more than two hundred yards but twice
in eight opportunities against top twenty five opponents and against
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Penn State last year he was like sixteen to twenty
five for one to five against Misgan last year game
they won. He was seven or fourteen for eighty yards
this year against Indiana, fourteen of twenty two for one
six with a TV. He just hasn't been that good
and that offense and that hasn't been that good against
class competition. That's what they're facing. And now with this
Ohio State defense, you know, not just facing the best
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defense in college football, you're basing a tief defense that
is flirting with being the best defense that we have
seen scoring defense wise since twenty eleven Alabama, which gave
up eight point two points per game and was about
low scoring football, right, they wanted to run the football,
play murder ball. That's not what Ohio State does. They'll
put up forty two and they'll hold you to three.
And that terrifies me, especially given what Indiana was able
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to do to Illinois. Back to if Indiana gets on
top of you, I think that's the recipe, right and
you you've got first rounders in every position. I just
don't I don't see it. I don't see it. There's
nothing that has led me here that would give with
a straight answer that Illinois can win this football game.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's a Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
R J Young is our guest, or Jay, what do
you make of Penn State what's happened there so far
this year?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
They got an identity and a confidence problem. Dog they
get into these top ten matchups and get the yips.
I was on it very early, and I've been hard
on them for this because of how inflated folks were,
as white as I am about Penn State is how
long we are about March as a way to tie
that back. But when they get to a team that's
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got a number of ten or better on the next
to the score bug score bug on their name, they
just can't find a way. And with Drew Allen in particular,
it sucks. He threw away the game against Notre Dame
last year they would have got into the National championship,
give him redemption opportunity against Ohio State, and he threw
away the game against Oregon. And in this game, they
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gave an opportunity to try to go down the field
and he couldn't do it. That I don't know, Doug,
is there is there a clutch gene that they're missing
over there, because it don't seem to have it. When
it's some time to go make a play and go
win the football game, they couldn't do it. And to
lose to Ucla and the way that they did getn't
run on. Jim Noles gave up I want to say,
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three hundred yards rushing in that game. That means the
defense also created and that's new. That's new. The organ
game is the organ game. I get it. But you
brought Jim Noles in to stop out teams like UCLA
that couldn't throw the football and you couldn't force them
throw the football. I still haven't as the top twenty
five team going in this week. We'll see how I
feel about that going in next week. But the AP
is all the way out on them and all the
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way out on Texas because now.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
They know what I know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
If they play a top cent opponent, they're probably going
to lose.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's crazy stuff. And yet they open so much money
they're not going to fire him, and he'll get more
and more opportunities against it.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
But that's just it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's crazy what's happened there, rj great stuff as always,
Thanks so much for being our guests. Look forward to
a crazy college fotball weekend and we'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Thanks Doug, appreciate you man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
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Blue Jays heading into Game four, Hey, I kind of
went quickly. Wanted to get into the Jonathan Gannon thing.
So Jonathan Gannon was fined for his interaction with Uh,
what's the kid's name? Go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry, we
need Dan's Mi cup. Amrio Demarcado, Amaro Demarcado right from
(28:44):
Mari de Marcato. Demarcardo is the guy who dropped the
ball right before he went into the end zone. It's
one of two plays which kotch Ari zone of the game.
So Jay Stu, you go ahead. You can share your
beliefs on why this fine was levied and what it means.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I just think it's the gen zification of the NFL
and gen zification is this. You gained a lot of
fame for your tweet saying that the retirement of Andrew
Luck was the most millennial thing ever. I think the
Amari Mercado being the victim the same week he cost
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his team a win is the most gen Z thing ever.
I think there was an overreaction to this entire episode.
I think that Jonathan Gannon didn't mention the bump or
the smack or the hit in the statement by the
team for why he was fine. There was no mention
of the hit. This is just like, this is how
the world goes right, Somebody makes a mistake who's in
(29:44):
Generation Z, and then somehow three days later he's the
victim in all this and we're supposed to feel bad
for him even though his dumb decision cost his team
a win.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I just I understand what you're saying about gen Z.
It's kind of your go to, right, It's kind of
your go to which is okay, right, you're saying that
that your your your opinions track. I'm gonna tell you're
wrong on this one, and you're wrong for one big reason.
It doesn't have to say it. The reason he was
fined was because of the bump, the aggressive bump with
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del Rico, because of the aggressive bump. You can't do it.
Everybody knows you can't do it. No one would argue
with me that you can do it, would you. I
mean what because it doesn't cause him harm because he
has pads on like yet. No, you can't go and
purposely bump into a guy who's playing football because you're
(30:41):
mad because he dropped the ball one inch before he
got to the goal line. You just you can't do it.
You can say everything, you can undress the guy all
you want, because I think that's why you think he
was fine, because he undressed a guy and and said,
we don't even know what he said. He was fined,
he was at money. He was rightfully, in my mind,
(31:02):
embarrassed because he lost control and he purposely bumped into
him when the conversation was over. I just don't think
there's any argument for that. And this is not a
new thing, but especially in the world of professional athletics,
you don't put your hands on another man because you
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Speaker 6 (32:09):
The press, two orders of business Doug to get to.
Right now, the Tigers have pulled within one of the
Mariners back to back doubles for Detroit in the bottom
of the fifth inning. Seattle still leads it three too,
but just one out and Hobby Baiaz almost hit a
two run home run just fouled down the left field line.
But it's three two Mariners over the Tigers right now.
(32:32):
On Fox Sports One. Mariners lead the Alds two games
to one in the best of five matchup.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It is weird with rain delays, right, that was supposed
to be midday and you'd think nighttime and get more attention,
But because the Yankees were playing, like who paid attention
and as you mentioned, now Seattle up three to two,
although Runner at second here.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yeah now tied. Hobvey Bias has singled up the middle,
so it's three to three in the bottom of the fifth.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But it's just it's it's weird for for this series.
It two really talented teams that won over ninety games,
and it feels like nobody pays attention.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, yesterday was tough for them, but right now going
crazy in New York, excuse me. In Detroit, sun is
starting to get lower in the sky, so it's got
that fall sort of feel.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, real good fall fall arrived. I think Sunday Sunday
front came through and all of a sudden, it's cool
at night. It felt like fall here in the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Better late than never. I do want to weigh in
on your Cardinals discussion, because you never never you and
Jason on opposite ends, and at one point I think
I was on the side of Jason. I sent a
tweet out last night that said that the I thought
that it GoFundMe should have been set up for Jonathan
Jonathan Gannon. I thought he was in De Marcado's face
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and kind of hitting him on the shoulder pads the breastplate,
which I've seen many a coach do on different levels.
I did not see the swipe at the end, and
the swipe at the end of him making contact I
did think was out of order. I didn't take the
tweet down, but it did change my perception into what
(34:10):
Gannon did. I don't mind him getting into the face
and grabbing the guy by the collar and being like,
I have no issue with that whatsoever. It was the
last bit from Gannon that made me go, did he
grab by the collar?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I didn't see that. Did you grab the color?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I don't know if he grabbed him by the collar
or just like had some sort of contact to again
the shoulder pad breastplate, which I would have no problem.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Don't touch nobody, that's your rule. It's like unwritten rule
in coaching. Don't touch nobody, keep your hands to yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Anyway, Well, he's gonna pay the price for it. I
just have seen coaches and.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
No listen I mean, look, we're famous. We grew up
watching Lou Holtz grab guys by the face.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Mask you got baby, you make me no time.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You can't do that right. But again, that's eighties, this
is twenty five. I don't think it's a gen Z thing,
Jase two. I think it's that's in popular society for
the last twenty five thirty years. It's just not accepted.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
If he grabbed the neck plate and it was like,
you got to get your head in the game, like
you got to make those plays, you got to be
smart about that. You could cost this team a win.
And he's grabbing him by the jersey or grabbing him
by the best breastplate.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Why grab him?
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I just get in his face. Hey, you and me
right here like that way. I think that's stuff that
we've all experienced at some point, which is I think
what Jason is saying is now gen Z is nowadays
something like that is frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think jen X didn't like it either.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Jen Why Plus the dynamic is you have a guy
that has zero pads on maybe nudging a guy with
shoulder pads on zero pain felt, zero pain intended. The
coach knows he has shoulder pads on that is baked
into his decision to nudge him.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I think there's wanted, acceptable contact, and then there's contact
like what we witnessed that I think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think it was over the line.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Did you think all of it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Are you like me?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Where the first part was okay but the second part
was out of line.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
What I saw was he looked like he stuck his
finger or he kind of poked at him like kind
of violently, and it made him De Marcotta kind of
pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
And then the slap at the end was just it
was a bridge too far. I'd love to hear what
Amaro de Marcado thinks of this. I hepe listen, Yeah, no,
nothing to what you said, Sam. I just would like
to hear sure, uh quickly. This is what Giannis had
to say today about his trade request to the next
is like, uh.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
You know, temptation. You know, like when you're going through
the amusement, you go through the outside and you're not
winning your wedding ring like me now and the people
are looking at you, looking at You're like, oh, he's
you know, he's kind of handsome. It's temptation. And that
starts when the season ends. Intil the season begins, you know,
(37:10):
there's gonna be a lot of people that are going
to approach me or approach I don't know my my agents,
and they're gonna say, hey, this is possibility, that's a possibility.
This is possibility, this is a possibility. But at the
end of the day, ultimately, I'm going to make a decision.
My decision today is that I'm here and I'm committed
to this thing.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
You think Giannis is committed to the Bucks for this year, yeap.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
That means he's not gonna be there for that right, agreed.
It's like once you called the divorce attorney, like you
get a divorce.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's the press, and that's get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
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We're in the middle of it. October is awesome and
today's a perfect example why we get you ready for
tonight's baseball games. We just had Dougie glennvill That was great.
Good get bye by Jason Stewart. R. J. Young's going
to join us in like twenty five minutes. We'll also
(01:08):
talk about this Jonathan Gannon fine, which I think I
think people's take on it is so far off, But
again that's my opinion. What do I know. I'm just
a coach. Anyway, we'll get to that, but first let's
get to the midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's time for he stuck in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The midway, Okay, the midway. Every week, this is the
middle of the week, the middle of the day, the
middle of our show because we have a one hour
podcast after that goes live after this show. So we
come up with a topic. Sometimes it's sports, sometimes it's not.
It's something to get you through those middle of the week,
blue Jay stew what's topic today?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So I do want to do some what is it
called house cleaning. Because of the nature of this program,
we basically did the content I had scheduled for right now.
We did it to open the show, and I want
to do some house cleaning on that. First the top
of the show was Doug basically coming out saying that
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Aaron Judge's moment was spectacular, not to be diminished, and
it was an impossible pitch to hit out and we
should appreciate it more. I came out on the side
of if this is the signature moment for Aaron Judge,
it's an indictment on the Yankees. I think Dan's opinion
was somewhere close to mine, but probably much more articularly
(02:44):
put from Brant Oliver, seems like I'm leaning more towards
Doug's side of this argument. However, I've yet to hear
anyone bring up Judge was a triple away from hitting
for the cycle and was thrown out at third trying
to get it. That would have been as much moment. Hey, Brent,
thanks for listening. You're wrong. Nobody would have remembered the
(03:06):
triple as a cycle making his moment, but I appreciate
you listening. This one from Happy for Life seven. Happy
for Life seven says one thousand percent agree with Jason.
The call moment itself was cringey and so forced. This
is the LEDs. They're down two following zero other big
(03:28):
moments in the past. About two or three moments from
this one is his true one, especially if tonight is
a dud.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So to catch the listeners up here who missed that
first hour and you could always podcast it on the
iHeartRadio app. Aaron Judge had an amazing moment last night
hitting a ball off the foul pole, fair pole as
Mike Lingard keeps screaming at us fair pole, And it
was a really cool moment. I loved it. It's it's
(03:59):
not as signal moment, and everyone on Twitter seemingly wanted
to give that to him. In fact, Colin cowhert let
off the show by saying this today, you need a moment.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Last night Aaron Judge, Yeah, finally had his moment.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I disagree. I hope that's not his moment for the
sake of his career and the future of the Yankees,
I hope it's not his moment. But I thought to
think about, like, what are some great signature moments in
baseball's postseason history by great players where you're like, oh,
of course, Like when you mentioned his accolades, you're like, oh,
(04:40):
and he did this example, Joe Carter amazing had a
great career. It fell short of the Hall of Fame.
But if you'll get Joe Carter's numbers. They're very comparable.
It was pre steroid era Joe Carner's Joe Carter will
always be remembered for hitting that World Series winning home
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run off Mitch Williams and the ninth minute right signature moment,
hands down, without a question. So that's my contribution to today's midway.
Joe Carter hitting a World Series home run the last
time the Jay has won the World Series, by the.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Way, I mean, I think I'll give you one. And
I don't know how we view him in terms of
his clutchness, but it's it's eerily comparable on some level
to the Aaron Judge home run. Bayer, you can help
me out with this. Poolholes hit a home run off
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of against the Houston Astros and at the time I
think it was in the DS. Now it was a
walk off home run, right.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It was a walk off home run. I thought it
was in the the NLCS. It may have been, Yeah,
it may have been.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But he hit home run against the Astros. I'm trying
to think because the closure was later he bounced right,
he like, he didn't recover for several years. Then he
ultimately won series. It was Brad Lidge, Right, brad Lidge
at the time was I don't know if his best
closure in baseball. He's in the conversation and Brad Osmis
was his catcher. And I remember the story that the
(06:26):
next day they were flying to Saint Louis for the
series and Ausmus grabbed the microphone. Is like, you're looking
outside the window, you can see the home run that
Albert Pool holes, right, and it was he was trying
to bring levity to it and it kind of backfired,
and Lydge was a mess for like a good year
and a half. He got it together and I think
wasn't with the Phillies. Wasn't it either closure when they
(06:47):
won the World.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yes, yes, he did not blow a save that year, right,
he was so but it took.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Him a while. That's my That's the biggest Albert Pool
hoolest moment I can think of in the World Series
or I think of, and he not in the World Series,
but that was an I mean the fact that he
hit the ball out of the building. Yes, it was incredible.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Astros go on to win the series. They lose to
the White Sox in the World Series that year, but yeah,
that that moment stands out. Brad Lidge was the guest
that I was able to track down because he got
the final out of the eight World Series and I
was able to track him down for Fox Sports Radio
as they beat the Rays in a in a rain
(07:27):
delayed game that they had to resume in the sixth inning.
I'll give you another name because I think that it
was a name that we all loved growing up, most
people loved, and it was Kirby Puckett of the Minnesota
Twins Game six, nineteen ninety one World Series and just
too yeah for the game. The the home runner is
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that Jack Buck with the with the call, So yeah,
Kirby Pucket.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's a great one. Hall of Famer by the way,
So he had an abridged career because he got hit
in the eye right goes to the Hall of Fame,
and then I remember him. This is his signature moment
with me. That scathing article written about.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Him and like he's just like the worst human being everyone,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So it's hard to look past those details at that
amazing home run and a great career. He was fun
to watch. What was he like five foot two?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, I'm going to get the official measurements.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean, he could take AL two in the post. Right,
he's bigger than OL two bay.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
If who's AL two B and Kyler Murray had a baby,
it would be Kirby Pucket.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Clayton. Kershaw's signature moment.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Is what, now do you have one?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm asking, I'm asking, I'm asking Jay stew He's seen
every every game, every he's pitched.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I think, for the purpose of this exercise, if one
doesn't readily come to mind, that means he's disqualified. He
is going to go his career unless he unless he
has one this this October, He's going to go to
his career with that, that one signature moment. And I
think so that kind of adds to the conversation about
his postseason legacy.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Was five eights according to Baseball Reference.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Okay, so it's five o' five.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He was three inches.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, you always have to take three inches off of
the internet. Ask any woman that's been on tender pause.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Uh, Jeter, it's the it's the what is it the scoop.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
That of the dive headfirst, do the dive, the dive
into the stands. But the scoop was postseason, right, was
the dive postseason.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, that was a regular season game, which was the
dive into the stands was a regular season.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Really, yes, but the scoop was playoff game right against
the A's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, that one I remember again, specifically against the A's.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So Gibson is maybe the top of the Mount Rushmore here.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's literally the greatest baseball moment in my life.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's like one of those things. I think, guys that
if Gibson ever made the Hall of Fame and they're
letting everybody in nowadays post humus, whatever the word is,
if I think on his plaque will be a reference
to the home runoff Eckers. But I mean, how many
Hall of Famers could have an actual moment in the
paragraph that sums up their career, you know, Like Willie
(10:42):
Mays is in the Hall of Fame. His signature moment
is the nineteen fifty four catch running away from home
plate four hundred and twenty five feet from home plate.
But that catch is not in the summary of his
Hall of Fame career. It's not It is not on
the plaque.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh and unplaque in the play.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I was actually on TikTok within the last twenty four
hours and came upon this Goose Gossage sound bite how
the Padres are facing the Tigers in the eighty four
World Series and Gossage is about to be pulled and says, no,
I've been really really good against this guy. I'm really
really good at first pitch. Gibson homers and seals the
(11:24):
deal for the Tigers. They win in nineteen eighty four.
So for Gibson to have two World Series home runs
is even more spectacular. But to start, contrast of how
we look at Gibson to what Joe Carter did in
winning the World Series, Gibson set the tone. Eckersley was
(11:45):
Game one. Yes, the injury, the dramatics of it, but
in the moment, I think it's difficult to top what
Joe Carter did into hitting the walk off to win
it all.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's absolutely true. So I've always had my theory about this.
It's the Hollywood thing. Because it happened in Hollywood. It's
a Hollywood story. It is more magnified. What happened in
Philadelphia or Toronto is less significant in the grand scheme
of things narrative wise. But you're right, Joe Carter's was
the winning home run in a World Series. Kirk Gibson
(12:22):
just started the series one zero. But if you factor
in everything, if you like explained it to your grandkids.
Eckersley had not walked one batter the entire season, and
he walked about her in front of Kirk Gibson. Eckersley's
era and his whip were almost zero the entire season.
It was a true David and Goliath. The A's had
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won like one hundred and ten games. The Dodgers were
not that great. I think Bob Cossis famously said it's
the worst lineup to ever play in a World Series.
So when you take those storylines, it kind of makes
sense why Gibson's has kind of tested the oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I was gonna, hey, do you guys want to hear
Mike Trout's greatest postseason moment?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Please?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
You want to hear it again? And I'm an Angel fan.
There is one other part of this that we should
probably bring up. It's that the reason there's a reason
that so many of these guys that were great players,
that are Hall of famers don't have these moments because
I think those moments actually don't represent who the best
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players are, Like David Freese had two home runs for
the Cardinals in Game six, Game six of the World Series,
and they're both down to the last strike. I mean,
David Freese, his career flamed out afterwards. Like oftentimes, the
hitting hero is not the superstar, it's somebody around the superstar.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's the one thing that's that's unique about baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, the other side of that coin is is that
most Hall of famers never even get postseason chances.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, how many like Croud he got three chances
against Kanctate Chiefs, the kans City Worlds, and that's.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It correct, And it's like it's a long list of
people in the Hall of Fame that never even got
a chance for a moment. That's why it's so unique
that we're talking about this today. To have a Hall
of Fame player have a amazing moment in the postseason,
everything has to come together. I mean Reggie Jackson's three
(14:36):
home runs in seventy seven and that the game against
the Dodgers, not one moment, but everyone associates Reggie with
those three home runs against the Dodgers in Game six
of the World Series.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I would also say that there's interesting there's names that
pop up, So like like Indie Chavez on the Mets,
Like you think of, you know, robbing the home run
in the NLCS in a game that they lost. Okay,
like the Cardinals went on to win the World Series,
but like that play is one that is still fondly
(15:10):
remembered by by many, even Mets fans. Luis Gonzalez, I
don't think you think anything but Game seven, two thousand
and one, right like uh Edgar Rinteria ninety seven and
winning it for the Marlins. There's just names that I
think that that pop up and you immediately think of
(15:33):
those individual single moments.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Like Pedro Martinez is probably the best picture of my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like I think, I think Pedro Martinez the best picture
I've ever seen. I've seen throw baseball. Again, I don't
I don't think that means he was and I don't study,
but like in terms of dominance of a picture, because
he had all the different things. He was a pitcher
who also had overwhelming stuff, right whereas like Maddox was
more about pitching as opposed to arm talent. I think
(16:07):
Randy Johnson was unbelievably dominant, but a lot of that
was just the power size. You know, he could reach
halfway to home plate when he's throwing a baseball. Pedro
had all of it right, unbelievable movement, multiple pitches, and
then great power, great stuff. But his signature moment is
probably when he got lit up by the Yankees in
(16:30):
three Isn't it? Like he had other moments, But that's
he had moments with the Indians when he was in
the playoffs where he was the best pitcher in baseball
and it was freaky stuff. The Indians just weren't that good.
So when he pitched, they won, and when he didn't pitch,
they didn't. Yeah, does Pedro have another signature moment?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No, No, Again, you're proving kind of the point of
the exercise here. If you can't think of one, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, I can think of what the one I can
think of as a negative. That's the thing with Petro.
I just going back out there in the seventh inning,
Grady Little shakes his hand, then tells him he's going
back in, goes back in and gets lit up.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, and that's his moment, just like Aaron Judge's signature,
A moment I think is an Aaron center field, but
pitched for the Indians, right, No, he pitched against him
a lot, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
No, I was, I was just gonna say, I think
that there's one name and io was. Sam brought it
up in the Break twenty ten that we stand out
we lost him too early. But Sam, you mentioned a
guy like Roy Halliday who had the uh.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The no no, Yeah, his sons just throw out the
first pitch in Game two. Ryan Berschinger actually helped me. Uh,
he came up with that, so I should give him
credit for that.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, No, that was. But he had a perfect game
that year and then throws the no hitter. I mean,
and you think of all of that. I mean, they
have a postseason no hitter only him and.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
A Wainwright game. He pitched incredible. He gave up one
run I don't even know if it's earned and lost
that game. Well that's the thing, to give up one
run to the Cardinals lose, and like nobody even mentioned
somebody cares.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well. You talk about starting pitchers, You've mentioned two in
this segment, Kershaw and Pedro Martinez. Like how hard is
it to have a signature moment? If you're a starting pitcher,
you literally have to do what Roy Halliday did and
pitch the entire game. Otherwise, who's going to remember you
striking out the side in the fourth inning of a
big game? I mean, Don Larson's perfect game is a
(18:40):
perfect example. Larson wasn't a Hall of Famer, but he
threw a perfect game in the World Series. It's never happened.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And that is the midway, the midway.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and let's bring him in. He's r J. Young. He's
the host of the Number one Show, which of course
the podcast on Fox Sports. He's Fox Sports College Football
analyst and host of that number one show. He's r J. Young.
He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show Texas Week
or Oklahoma Week if you're in Texas. Obviously, E've been
(19:29):
following OU football since since birth. What do we know
about ja my tears status.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
We know that he is pushing the play. We know
that the thumb might not be fully healed, but it's
going according to plan, and usually if the player is
pushing the play, I expect him to play. Bandventable, for
his part, says he does not expect him to play
and has been going about his business as if he
does not expect him to play and he's getting tired
of beet. Asked, is John, but you're going to play
(19:57):
on Saturday against Texas and I guess we'll all find
out together at two thirty pm on setting.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Arch Manning, how would you describe this first season as
a full time starter.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I think we set an expectation that he was going
to be tremendous, that he was going to be great,
and he was going to hit the ground running, based
in part on what we saw last year. I genuinely
believe that he is really talented. I think that he's
going to put it together. I also believe that it's
true for most quarterbacks, has proven to be true for
arch Manning, and that is quite simply. You need experience,
(20:34):
you need reps, you need games. Started when I asked
quarterback coaches what it is that they are looking for
from high school players to translate to college and from
college players to translate to the NFL. At the quarterback position.
They all say the same thing, how many games did
the dude play? Because if he's played a lot of football,
that means he's seen a lot of football. That means
(20:55):
that nothing that you throw at him is going to
be something he hadn't seen before. Hard to trick that person.
Art is going through that right now. He's getting shown
a lot of looks. He's getting shown a lot of
things he hasn't been exposed to in the speed of
the game is catching up to him.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think he's got and he's going to go against
a really talented, really well coached ou defense. Likelihood of
success for Texas offensively in the Red River shootout, oh man.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Let's put it at thirty three percent. Let's get it
at one thirty chance most, because the defense is way
better than I thought it would be at Oklahoma, like
full stop. I didn't think the defensive line would be
that good, and I didn't think that the cornerback play
would be that good. And Brent is diabolical when dialing
up how to unseat an uncomfortable quarterbacks. So if they
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can't run the ball at Texas, it's going to be
a long day. Because the one thing that Steve starts.
E's getting need to do to make the offense go
and make all that window dress work is to be
able to run the football. And if footballman is going
to stuff it, they're not going to have much offense
is cast at all.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Let's get some of the games this weekend. Indiana goes
to Oregon. Right, Indiana very very physical football team, and
they beat a very physical Iowa team then had a
week off after beating the pants off of Illinois at home.
But this is different, right, this is an Oregon team
that has looked many many times this year like a
national champion. What are your thoughts on IU traveling to
(22:25):
Eugene to take on the Ducks.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't think that this game says so much about
Indiana as much as it says about Oregon. He's actually
giving us a lot of thoughts because when I look
at Oregon, I see the back end of their schedule
features letters Wisconsin, Iowa, USC, Washington, nobody you care about.
But if they lose this game, can they still make
the Big Ten Championship. It's likely possible, But given what
(22:50):
we saw from Vince State Ecoa and how we build
up in State now, I think a loss to Indiana
could really hurt Oregon. On the other hand, Indiana beat
ore again, we got to start talking about them as
the national title contender because they don't play Ohio State
in the regular season this year. They would play them
if at all, in the Big Ten championship. We're in
(23:10):
college football playoffs, and then we could we can make
our judgments based on what they did last year, in
which he's done this year. But I'm really really interested
to find out if Fernando Mendoza can go there and win.
It's a guy that got pelted last week again. Viola
just got a two weeks ago to beating Viola got
absolutely should and in getting destroyed, man he was, he
(23:33):
was hurt. He was hurting pretty bad. Meanwhile, doctor Moore
went out and made a play when Drew Aller did not.
I think if it comes down to make him play
Dan Landy's going to give his guys an opportunity. The
thing to watch if you are in this game, though,
and I mean the sincerely. If Indiana gets off to
a fast start, it's done. It's over. If they they
score twenty one in the first quarter, they score twenty
one in the second quarter, and Oregon does not have
(23:55):
a response. That's in Indiana win. That is how they've
been putting teams away. That's how they get on top
team very early. But if it's still a fifth fight
in the third quarter back the game that he went
to the run the Football.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Ohio State
almost feels like a forgotten team. I hear the number
one team in the country they beat you know, you
get a huge win to start the season, and because
they haven't played anybody of real substance, no one's talking
about them. Any chance to get tripped up in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Oh no is the short answer. I mean, I can,
I can unpack the analysis for you there, but no
is the short answer. Very quickly. Illinois hasn't been great
against top ten opponents, and particularly lou Gaultmeyer, who has
not thrown for more than two hundred yards but twice
in eight opportunities against top twenty five opponents and against
(24:50):
Penn State last year he was like sixteen to twenty
five for one to five against Misgan last year game
they won. He was seven or fourteen for eighty yards
this year against Indiana, fourteen of twenty two for one
six with a TV. He just hasn't been that good
and that offense and that hasn't been that good against
class competition. That's what they're facing. And now with this
Ohio State defense, you know, not just facing the best
(25:13):
defense in college football, you're basing a tief defense that
is flirting with being the best defense that we have
seen scoring defense wise since twenty eleven Alabama, which gave
up eight point two points per game and was about
low scoring football, right, they wanted to run the football,
play murder ball. That's not what Ohio State does. They'll
put up forty two and they'll hold you to three.
And that terrifies me, especially given what Indiana was able
(25:36):
to do to Illinois. Back to if Indiana gets on
top of you, I think that's the recipe, right and
you you've got first rounders in every position. I just
don't I don't see it. I don't see it. There's
nothing that has led me here that would give with
a straight answer that Illinois can win this football game.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's a Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
R J Young is our guest, or Jay, what do
you make of Penn State what's happened there so far
this year?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
They got an identity and a confidence problem. Dog they
get into these top ten matchups and get the yips.
I was on it very early, and I've been hard
on them for this because of how inflated folks were,
as white as I am about Penn State is how
long we are about March as a way to tie
that back. But when they get to a team that's
(26:28):
got a number of ten or better on the next
to the score bug score bug on their name, they
just can't find a way. And with Drew Allen in particular,
it sucks. He threw away the game against Notre Dame
last year they would have got into the National championship,
give him redemption opportunity against Ohio State, and he threw
away the game against Oregon. And in this game, they
(26:49):
gave an opportunity to try to go down the field
and he couldn't do it. That I don't know, Doug,
is there is there a clutch gene that they're missing
over there, because it don't seem to have it. When
it's some time to go make a play and go
win the football game, they couldn't do it. And to
lose to Ucla and the way that they did getn't
run on. Jim Noles gave up I want to say,
(27:10):
three hundred yards rushing in that game. That means the
defense also created and that's new. That's new. The organ
game is the organ game. I get it. But you
brought Jim Noles in to stop out teams like UCLA
that couldn't throw the football and you couldn't force them
throw the football. I still haven't as the top twenty
five team going in this week. We'll see how I
feel about that going in next week. But the AP
is all the way out on them and all the
(27:31):
way out on Texas because now.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
They know what I know.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
If they play a top cent opponent, they're probably going
to lose.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's crazy stuff. And yet they open so much money
they're not going to fire him, and he'll get more
and more opportunities against it.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
But that's just it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's crazy what's happened there, rj great stuff as always,
Thanks so much for being our guests. Look forward to
a crazy college fotball weekend and we'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Thanks Doug, appreciate you man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
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Yankees come back to win series now two to one.
(28:21):
Blue Jays heading into Game four, Hey, I kind of
went quickly. Wanted to get into the Jonathan Gannon thing.
So Jonathan Gannon was fined for his interaction with Uh,
what's the kid's name? Go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry, we
need Dan's Mi cup. Amrio Demarcado, Amaro Demarcado right from
(28:44):
Mari de Marcato. Demarcardo is the guy who dropped the
ball right before he went into the end zone. It's
one of two plays which kotch Ari zone of the game.
So Jay Stu, you go ahead. You can share your
beliefs on why this fine was levied and what it means.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I just think it's the gen zification of the NFL
and gen zification is this. You gained a lot of
fame for your tweet saying that the retirement of Andrew
Luck was the most millennial thing ever. I think the
Amari Mercado being the victim the same week he cost
(29:21):
his team a win is the most gen Z thing ever.
I think there was an overreaction to this entire episode.
I think that Jonathan Gannon didn't mention the bump or
the smack or the hit in the statement by the
team for why he was fine. There was no mention
of the hit. This is just like, this is how
the world goes right, Somebody makes a mistake who's in
(29:44):
Generation Z, and then somehow three days later he's the
victim in all this and we're supposed to feel bad
for him even though his dumb decision cost his team
a win.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I just I understand what you're saying about gen Z.
It's kind of your go to, right, It's kind of
your go to which is okay, right, you're saying that
that your your your opinions track. I'm gonna tell you're
wrong on this one, and you're wrong for one big reason.
It doesn't have to say it. The reason he was
fined was because of the bump, the aggressive bump with
(30:20):
del Rico, because of the aggressive bump. You can't do it.
Everybody knows you can't do it. No one would argue
with me that you can do it, would you. I
mean what because it doesn't cause him harm because he
has pads on like yet. No, you can't go and
purposely bump into a guy who's playing football because you're
(30:41):
mad because he dropped the ball one inch before he
got to the goal line. You just you can't do it.
You can say everything, you can undress the guy all
you want, because I think that's why you think he
was fine, because he undressed a guy and and said,
we don't even know what he said. He was fined,
he was at money. He was rightfully, in my mind,
(31:02):
embarrassed because he lost control and he purposely bumped into
him when the conversation was over. I just don't think
there's any argument for that. And this is not a
new thing, but especially in the world of professional athletics,
you don't put your hands on another man because you
(31:22):
don't know how he's going to react. Coming up next
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an update on Cleveland and their quarterback situation.
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Speaker 6 (32:09):
The press, two orders of business Doug to get to.
Right now, the Tigers have pulled within one of the
Mariners back to back doubles for Detroit in the bottom
of the fifth inning. Seattle still leads it three too,
but just one out and Hobby Baiaz almost hit a
two run home run just fouled down the left field line.
But it's three two Mariners over the Tigers right now.
(32:32):
On Fox Sports One. Mariners lead the Alds two games
to one in the best of five matchup.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It is weird with rain delays, right, that was supposed
to be midday and you'd think nighttime and get more attention,
But because the Yankees were playing, like who paid attention
and as you mentioned, now Seattle up three to two,
although Runner at second here.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yeah now tied. Hobvey Bias has singled up the middle,
so it's three to three in the bottom of the fifth.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
But it's just it's it's weird for for this series.
It two really talented teams that won over ninety games,
and it feels like nobody pays attention.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Yeah, yesterday was tough for them, but right now going
crazy in New York, excuse me. In Detroit, sun is
starting to get lower in the sky, so it's got
that fall sort of feel.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, real good fall fall arrived. I think Sunday Sunday
front came through and all of a sudden, it's cool
at night. It felt like fall here in the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Better late than never. I do want to weigh in
on your Cardinals discussion, because you never never you and
Jason on opposite ends, and at one point I think
I was on the side of Jason. I sent a
tweet out last night that said that the I thought
that it GoFundMe should have been set up for Jonathan
Jonathan Gannon. I thought he was in De Marcado's face
(33:50):
and kind of hitting him on the shoulder pads the breastplate,
which I've seen many a coach do on different levels.
I did not see the swipe at the end, and
the swipe at the end of him making contact I
did think was out of order. I didn't take the
tweet down, but it did change my perception into what
(34:10):
Gannon did. I don't mind him getting into the face
and grabbing the guy by the collar and being like,
I have no issue with that whatsoever. It was the
last bit from Gannon that made me go, did he
grab by the collar?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I didn't see that. Did you grab the color?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I don't know if he grabbed him by the collar
or just like had some sort of contact to again
the shoulder pad breastplate, which I would have no problem.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Don't touch nobody, that's your rule. It's like unwritten rule
in coaching. Don't touch nobody, keep your hands to yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Anyway, Well, he's gonna pay the price for it. I
just have seen coaches and.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
No listen I mean, look, we're famous. We grew up
watching Lou Holtz grab guys by the face.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Mask you got baby, you make me no time.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You can't do that right. But again, that's eighties, this
is twenty five. I don't think it's a gen Z thing,
Jase two. I think it's that's in popular society for
the last twenty five thirty years. It's just not accepted.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
If he grabbed the neck plate and it was like,
you got to get your head in the game, like
you got to make those plays, you got to be
smart about that. You could cost this team a win.
And he's grabbing him by the jersey or grabbing him
by the best breastplate.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Why grab him?
Speaker 6 (35:28):
I just get in his face. Hey, you and me
right here like that way. I think that's stuff that
we've all experienced at some point, which is I think
what Jason is saying is now gen Z is nowadays
something like that is frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think jen X didn't like it either.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Jen Why Plus the dynamic is you have a guy
that has zero pads on maybe nudging a guy with
shoulder pads on zero pain felt, zero pain intended. The
coach knows he has shoulder pads on that is baked
into his decision to nudge him.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I think there's wanted, acceptable contact, and then there's contact
like what we witnessed that I think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think it was over the line.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Did you think all of it?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Are you like me?
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Where the first part was okay but the second part
was out of line.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
What I saw was he looked like he stuck his
finger or he kind of poked at him like kind
of violently, and it made him De Marcotta kind of
pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
And then the slap at the end was just it
was a bridge too far. I'd love to hear what
Amaro de Marcado thinks of this. I hepe listen, Yeah, no,
nothing to what you said, Sam. I just would like
to hear sure, uh quickly. This is what Giannis had
to say today about his trade request to the next
is like, uh.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
You know, temptation. You know, like when you're going through
the amusement, you go through the outside and you're not
winning your wedding ring like me now and the people
are looking at you, looking at You're like, oh, he's
you know, he's kind of handsome. It's temptation. And that
starts when the season ends. Intil the season begins, you know,
(37:10):
there's gonna be a lot of people that are going
to approach me or approach I don't know my my agents,
and they're gonna say, hey, this is possibility, that's a possibility.
This is possibility, this is a possibility. But at the
end of the day, ultimately, I'm going to make a decision.
My decision today is that I'm here and I'm committed
to this thing.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
You think Giannis is committed to the Bucks for this year, yeap.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
That means he's not gonna be there for that right, agreed.
It's like once you called the divorce attorney, like you
get a divorce.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
That's the press, and that's get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
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