August 15, 2024 • 35 mins
Doug weighs in on the Notre Dame Swimming scandal and shares his favorite college gambling story. Doug welcomes former MLB All-Star Matt Holliday onto the show to talk about his son Jackson's major league journey to this point. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug on a Thursday edition of "The Press".
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NBA championships, So what the hell does he know about?
You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I wouldn't
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what it's actually like, you can't say what it's actually like, right,
It's like all, I never would have gone to that
party were you invited? No, but I go if I
was invited, Like really really, But what I want to
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talk about the gambling thing. But Notre Dame that's fascinating fasting.
So if you're just joining us and look, I get
and understand, you're talking about Notre Dame swimming right, swim
and diving, like literally only pay attention to it. Winston Olympics.
So if you heard from Isaac Glowincron, they're they're taking
a year off, right, no swim team for a year,
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which is interesting because this investigation. And I don't know
when Notre Dames starts school, but I'm guessing it's either
this or next week they start school. So like, are
they still on scholarship? Only they don't have they have
clubs swimming? They have nothing? Are they allowed to get
in the pool? Is the pool clothes? Like pools clothes? Right?
(01:52):
Kind of like the scene of Catashac when they have
the baby baby Ruth that looks like a duty in
the pool, right. Like this whole thing is fascinating me.
Like you show up to school and like, hey, by
the way, guys know swimming and diving Deean this year.
Excuse me, and oh yeah, by the way, I will
point this out. I don't know this firsthand. This is
secondhand knowledge that being a swimming and swimming parent is
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the worst. Like imagine, I'm just telling you the worst. Now.
Most of these people who are swimmers are loaded like
it is definitely elitist sport, right, And I don't mean
they spend the money on the speedos. It's just it's
these are you know, taller country club kids really that
that they found something that get them into school. But again,
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I don't know if you've been to these youth swim meets,
but there's just kids everywhere, and then you gotta wait
all day for a race and you're just sitting there
and again, forgive me, you're by a pool. Couldn't be
too terrible. But I do know places that does exist.
My sister had her kids swam for a little bit
as well. But I just it brings to mind something
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that my buddy, he texted me yesterday. So yesterday I
dropped my daughter off at Oklahoma State and she's in
literally the same dorm and almost the same area of
the same wing of the dorm that I was in
my first year at OSU and it was really cool.
And my buddy and former teammate Scott Robish, who played
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Oaklama State and then he transferred to Butler, asked if
there was still casino night at the at at Bennett Hall,
and then then we were going back and forth about
it and he's like, yeah, you could. You always remember
Casino night was after everybody got their scholarship check and
some dudes got their pelgrant check and then it was
it was on right and there was always one room
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where it was on and you walk in and the
way those rooms work at this particular dormitory was there
were some singles down below in on the first floor,
but the rest of them were you know, you get
like three rooms they all have their own bathroom, or
two rooms they have their own bathroom, and then there's
a main room and thing went on in the main room,
which is super weird right now if you think about
it like now as an adult, you like, whoa, they're
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a little kitchenette and there it'd be really cool. But
regardless of which, the one room in which there was
something going on in the little kind of gathering room
was one of our teammates rooms. Where again like when
it was Christmas time and no one's around and we
got our scholarship check and we get our yellow per
diem as well, like it would be on and again
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college campuses. Everybody knows a bookie on college campuses, right
like cal State Fullerton, which it was more of a
communter school. It's less of community school now. You had
to know a bookie when you're there, correct, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, of course, if you didn't know a bookie, you
knew someone who could hook you up with a book
and then that person in the middle is probably taking
your bets and not calling him into the bookie prophet.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
When you were at wake was there, did you know
a bookie right away?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Not really, can't say I was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You didn't see gambling on a college campus.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My friends definitely gambled.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I was. I was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was kind of a bit nerdy and just kind
of working on my working my ass off at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's not surprising to be a little bit nerdy. I'm
just so humble. Brod's working too hard. I was working
too hard. It was just that was hard. I thought.
Somehow you bring it back to Detroit, That's what I
thought you would somehow to do? Uh, I know what
about you?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I was totally sheltered when I was in college, But
many years after the fact, I started putting two and
two together about various things that I saw a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Of that way.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, So for people who haven't heard the story, explained,
so they had they bet on themselves against themselves. Other
people like how did how did it? Again? I know
this is kind of initial reports that we're reading, but
Notre Dame has has paused their swimming program, and I
don't know that swimming and diving. Did they have diving?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
No, no, no, no, it's just men's swimming, men's diving, and
women's swimming and diving are completely unaffected.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, so men's swimming, so they were what does the
reports say they were doing?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
They essentially created their own sports book. These details reported
by Pat Forty of si dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
By the way, Pat has a daughter that swims sun.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh that's right, yes, At it's about it all the time. Yeah, At,
I don't remember, I'll look it up. It's a big
time program.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Pat. And for people who know Pat forty, right, he's
covered college sports forever and he veered into covering swimming
because his kids swim. Maybe kids swim Missouri where he went,
I can't remember. But anyway, okay, so what was the well,
were they been on an NFL We've been in college.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
No, they were betting on themselves because, as he points out,
there are no gambling companies that take wagers or have
lines on college swimming. It's not exactly your big gambling sport.
So they did it themselves. They did over underlines, they
placed wagers on the outcomes, and part of the suspension
it was for gambling, but also for cultural issues and
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forty reports that there was a troubling group text that
was very inappropriate that was found during the investigation. Notre
Dame also said that the coaching staff was not aware
at all of the scope of the gambling or any
of the other behaviors because quote, team members effectively concealed
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such behaviors from the coaches and staff through concerted efforts unquote,
So the coaching staff did not have a part of
this at all and legitimately no knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I will point out that, I mean, just again, I
don't think there's if there's something like racially divisive or
negative like in the text like doesn't shouldn't exist, but again,
and there's there's a line there, and everybody knows up
when you've totally crossed the line. College dudes and text
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like yeah again, I'm not giving anybody pass because I
haven't read them. I just know that anyone who has
been around eighteen to twenty two year old dudes know
that you have a tendency to say lots of things.
My fifteen year old's done something to me the other
day where I nearly like, I literally did pull off
the through and I'm like, what, my bad, I didn't
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mean to say that, right, Okay, Can I give you
guys my best gambling story from college?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh yeah, okay, the NCAA is listening, by the way, welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Whatever I think, statue limitations, whatever. So my backcourt mate,
former All American, dear friend, Joe Atkins, there are lots
of things that you want to do with him. You
want to play basketball him because he wins and he's
got that level of confidence, bordinering arrogance. Right. He's also
a guy that is brilliant on a very like For example,
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he got back from playing in Russia his second year
playing professional basketball and Whereas when I played in Russia,
I bought a house. He bought what's it called machines,
vending machines in Oklahoma City, and I was like, why
did you do this? Like, dude, cash money? He just so.
That's when in the off season what he would do
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was he'd go and he'd work his own vending machines,
go and pick it up. And it's always he still
has them, makes money doing that, right, brilliant dude from
a just a real standpoint. But he's also never shoot
dice with them. I don't know what he does to him,
and don't play cards with him because he's just good good.
I don't know how he does it. So we had
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a guy named Mike Johnson shout out Mike J. Who
was came for a little bit of money. He's now,
I believe, works with his dad in commercial real estate
in Kansas City. He transferred. We were roommates his second
year there, my second year there for half a semester.
Then he transferred to William Mary. Had a really good
career and but Mike J was like our whale, right,
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like no disrespect, but no one felt bad when he
took money off. Mike J. Because he could just call
his dad and get None of us had money, like
Mike j his dad had some money. So, like I said,
casino night, there was two different casino nights. We had
a manager who had a house and in their garage.
They had a craps table at a blackjack table they
had I can't remember what else they had. They had
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one more format. I think they had a poker table
as well. Maybe it might have been roulette. Yeah, you
going there. It was like a little legit casino. And
then the kind of kind of old school casino night
would be at Bennett Hall and Christmas right around Christmas
Break nineteen ninety seven. It's a long time ago. I
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walked in on casino night and I walk in and
there is a lot of cash in there. And remember
this is a lot of cash for college kids, right
like two hundred and fifty bucks. And there's also a Sony Discman.
Do you guys remember Sony Diskman? Profet, you're not old enough,
you probably don't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, I had a discman, Okay you did, Yeah, yeah,
I had I had a CD man.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, So a Sony Discman, which is the time like
that was as valuable then as an iPhone is now.
And then I walked in. There's also a bike lock
in there, like, what are you guys playing? So they're
playing a C douc between the sheets over under? Do
you guys know know that game? Very very simple game, right.
You have two cards on the outside and you're betting
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that the card that's drawn is going to be below
those two. So if it's King Ace, you always bet
the pot. You always bet the pot, and unless the
next card over is a King or an Ace, you
take home the pot if you If you if King
and Ace and you bet pot and it's a King
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or an Ace, you have to match the pot. When
you're out of money, you have to come up with
some collateral. And the collateral in this particular case was
a Sony discman and it ended up being Mike Johnson's
mountain bike. So but I forgive me, I digress. We
go back. When I walked in, there was asking just
the disc man in there, and Mike Jay is up
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and he says pot to King Ace. He's talking, he
was a big trash talker. He's already counting his money.
He's looking at the pot, he's counting how much it
is there's a whole build up. There's like ten guys
in the room. Yes, we were drinking at the time,
probably smoking some black and Miles as well, and King
flips over and dudes go crazy. We like, Mike, Jay,
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you got to match the pot. And the pot at
that point was probably five hundred bucks if you count
the Sony discman the two hundred and fifty bucks whatever
else is in there. So we came up with the bike.
So he puts the bike clock. So then he's hopeful
that we can go around the room to where he
gets another opportunity to bet pot to get his bike back.
He didn't. Who got the bike? Joe Watkins got the bike.
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Fast forward to the next day and what our coach
would do, the late great Hall of Famer Eddie Sutton
would do, is we'd oftenties practice in the morning, Like
why are you practice in the morning. We don't have to.
You have the gym all day right, no one else
is around campus. He would do it. We couldn't stay
up all night because you can't pray. He can't well,
he can't fly with the eagles. He hoot with the owls.
So practice at nine o'clock the next day. Everyone has
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the rule. You gotta be on the court fifteen minutes before,
usually sometimes thirty minutes before. You gotta be taped fifteen
minutes before you got to be shooting warmed up. So
when blow the whistler, practice is ready to go. Eight
forty five, everyone's there. No Joakins. Eight fifty everyone's there,
No Joackins. Eight fifty seven. Joe Akins kicks in the
door to the arena, comes pedaling in onto his newly
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earned bicycle, parks at mid court, locks it, and then
starts shooting around, at which point everybody's dying laughing. The
coaches are even laughing. They don't even know what it's about.
We tell them like Ac Doosey got Mike Jay until
he lost his bike. That's my best gambling story. That's
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what I got for you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That's a great one.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just the build up of where is Joe? Where is
Joe when he comes riding in on a bicycle and
then locks it at mid court. He unlocked it, moved it,
and we had ourselves in practice. That's amazing though. That
the swimming team, I would love to know how they
found out. I would I would. I mean, I'd love
to know how it skewed the results. What those guys
are doing all year, right, how many of them they
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can't leave? You can't transfer at this point time. Plus
it's Notre Dame like you're going there for the school
for the be part of the you know, be part
of the subway alums.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I bet it was some petty thing that happened. So
if you have all these people in on it, all
it takes is one person in the group to be alienated.
So if you like make fun of like the twerp
on the swim team, he's like, Okay, I'll go to
compliance about this little gambling thing you had, and we'll see.
We'll see who's laughing at the end of the day.
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So you're saying he leaked the info about their gambling pool.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
See, that's why you guys are good together because you
love it. The literation and there's no one who's more
illiterate than I Low. Wait, did that call him literate? No,
he's corny. He's corny and literally yeah.
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on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
you do know is I'm a fan of your son Jackson.
Well you don't know is our entire show has kind
of adopted him. So after you know, he got sent
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back down after his first thirty or so at bats,
we were all kind of devastated for him, wondering what
would happen next. Now, of course, since he's been called up,
he's back to what we all thought he would be
as a number one prospect in baseball. What's this been
like for you, as not just dad, but former Major
leaguer and kind of his own personal hitting code.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
This season for your son, Well, I think it's been
I think sometimes you have to put.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The thing in perspective. I think realizing that he's only
twenty years old and just reminding him that he's ahead
of schedule, and you know, I think he was he
was frustrated and it kind of embarrassed with how the
first time around went and not not what he expected,
didn't play like he expected. He's a very self confident kid,
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and so that was kind of the first time that
he'd really had that kind of failure in his life
in baseball. So I think just kind of help him
work through, you know that, and the reminder that you know,
he's twenty and even triple A and you know it's
still he's still you know, right where he needs to be,
and just kind of trying to make some adjustments and
(16:49):
and that's part of part of the game and been
part of uh baseball is you know, you're going to
get your buckets and you've got to get back up
and figure out why and try to you know, punch
back and figure out what kind of Adjustice is going
to make. And then so it's been it's been good.
I mean it's been it's been uh, it's part of it.
And so it's been, Uh, it's been challenging, I'm sure
(17:10):
at times for him and for for you know, me
trying to watch and trying to help. And but at
the same time, it comes with it comes with the territory,
it comes with the job. It's part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, there's for people don't know, major leaguers come
and stop by your house all off season, you know,
talk hitting to work through their things. Right, so this
is something you actually do in your post career career. Well,
what's the challenge? Like twofold one? Again, it's your son,
so you know his swing better than anybody else, right,
so you're trying to figure out, like do we change mechanics,
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do we tweak mechanics, how do we do it right?
And then oh yeah, by the way, you're also mid
season with it, which, as we all know, like anytime
you're trying to change something or tweak something or fix
something in the season, it can make it really really difficult.
It's better to have an off season to do it.
What's that challenge in.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Like, yeah, I mean I think it was just little
subtle things, you know, I think that it wasn't anything major,
just some little things that kind of habits that that
can happen that both he and I could see together.
But sometimes it's hard to make those changes and sometimes
you know, it's it's like you said, in the middle
of the season, you can see it on tape, but
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actually make that mechanical adjustment can be difficult, and so
you know, just just a couple of little things with
softening his front knee and uh, just just try to
try to do little things that that kind of trying
to figure out ways that don't take the competitiveness out
of it, because it's still when you get in the box,
you can't be thinking about mechanics. It's got to be
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the competition between you and the picture and and and
you can't be thinking about your mechanics. The game make work.
You know, moves way too fast. So just just little
things that he had kind of a little habit he's
got into that it was causing him to be a
little bit late on the fastball, and you can't be
late on the fastball, particularly in the major leagues. It's
just there's too much velocity these days to have any timing,
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you know, sort of errors going on in your swing.
It gets exposed pretty quickly. So it is tough, like
you said, during the season to try to make mechanical adjustments,
but sometimes just a little tweak here or there can
really unlock the feeling that you want to have of
being on time and ready to swing when you want
to swing instead of sort of reacting.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You had a tough half season with the Oaklan a'ge
right before you were traded to the Sailor's Cardinals. I'm
just wondering you can even imagine what it would be
like to be on the White Sox.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's one of those things
where it's I mean twenty something with twenty one losses
in a row or three weeks straight of losing. I mean,
it's I don't I mean, that'll test your metal. I mean,
that'll test your your love of the game, that'll test
your you know, your motivation and playing and you know
it's it's it's tough. I mean, I can't imagine. Uh,
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you know, I think it's just one of the things
as a player you have to try to avoid getting selfish.
At the same time. You have to go out there
and then play and and and know that you know,
you kind of are playing for yourself at that point
because you're so far out of anything from a team accomplishment.
But it's just not as fun to play for yourself
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and not play for the team and play to win,
And that can be a very difficult challenge I think
for an athlete when you get on a bad team.
Is how do you balance the idea of playing well
for your next opportunity or playing well for the future
without sacrificing like the love and joy of trying to
win and play for your teammates, and so uh, that
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can be that can be a tricky proposition when you're
playing so much and every day and you have to
show up at the field with the realization that it's
not a great chance that you're going to win, but
at the same time you have to play to win,
you know. It's just it's an interesting situation. I think
when you get pro sports teams like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Have you seen this that Major League Baseball is they're
weighing a six inning requirement for starting pitching now again
and this is they haven't done it yet, but it
feels like it's in the exploratory phase, right, And this
feels like a couple of years ago, the exploratory phase
of putting a runner on second base in extra innings. Right. So,
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with the idea in mind of getting starting pitchers to
go through six, of course, there's a couple of amendments
to it.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
If you throw one hundred pitches early on, then you
can take them out. If you give up four more
earned runs, you can take them out. And if you
get injured, of course you can take them out. Like look, dude,
you're you're what we're in basketball. We have what's called
guardians of the game. You're kind of a guardian of
Major League Baseball. How does this land on you?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Well, I think it promotes more of what it used
to be. I mean, I think you're sort of forcing
the game to go back to what it used to be,
and that you know, you would get as a as
a as an offensive player, you would get at least
two and then a lot of times three at bats
off the starter. I think it promotes more offense, which
I think has always kind of been the goal recently
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is to promote more offense. And so by having a
pitcher has to go six innings, and like you said,
I mean obviously the pitch counts, and you have to
protect their health and all those things. I mean, I
think it's an interesting idea. I don't know that. I mean,
you're starting to mess with the strategy of the game
pretty pretty distinctly, you know. I mean, that's a pretty
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that's a pretty big move as far as you know,
telling the team what they can and can't do. So
I'd have to think more about it. Like I said,
I think it does promote more offense, and it would
make it easier on the hitters, and it would probably
make relievers less valuable. Again, like you know, it probably
you know, take you back to where the starters were
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the most valuable and the relievers lead a little bit
of a value and and and so you know, you
look at kind of all that how that affects the
game and the players. But I don't know, I think
it's interesting. I would probably say, no, I wouldn't wouldn't do,
wouldn't mess with it, mess with the game's rules to
that to that extent.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
But you know, like I said, I I do think
it t favors the hitter, which I was a hitter,
so I'm all about changing things up for the hitter.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Uh. Last thing, your your favorite home run, Like if
you close your eyes, you think of your favorite home
run you've ever hit?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Was what, oh man, uh probably probably the NLCA uh
to go to the World Series to sweep the Diamondbacks
and uh in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So you're in Colorado. Yeah, game in Colorado or game
in in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Game in Colorado, I think I believe it was game four,
was maybe the Sports or maybe fifth or sixth Inny
Uh uh, I think we were up a runner two
but this three run homer kind of like.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
What was the count?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Shoot?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you remember counts? Don't give me that you remember counts.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I really don't remember exactly. I think it was a
two to one slider maybe Micah Owings.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You see that sucker and you hit it? Where'd you did?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Left center, centerfield, center field? I knew it was gone.
It was one of those deals. The crowd went crazy.
It was kind of a cold October night in Colorado
or and and uh, but it was it was a
good feel. I was like, you know, we when they went,
it was sences like we knew we were going to
the World Series. So that was That was probably number one.
And then you know, I obviously had a few others that.
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You know, my last home run I hit in Saint
Louis was really cool, and and uh and some other.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh that's right, wait didn't you?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Was it the Saint Louis one was on? That was
on your last was it your last game?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It was supposed to be, but I ended up pinch
hit in the next day.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, okay, okay, so okay, better feeling the NLCS or
Jackson's first home run when it was a Grand Slam.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Ah, It's just so different, you know. I think, look
for your kid, I mean, the excitement and like the
just the joy you have to watch your kids succeed
and to do something that they love to do is
I think it just trumps anything that I've ever done
in my life of my career. I just I really,
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you know, I love my kids like you do, and
I just watch them do things and for that to
happen for him and you know, kind of get that
a little bit of a you know, kind of a
monkey off of his back as far as just you know,
needing something like that to kind of propel him and
you know what, I know he can do. I'll take
that one, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, that that's why I asked, because I mean, again,
you're an incredibly accomplished guy, won a World Series, seven
All Stars and four times Silver Slucker. And yet I'm
sure you're like the rest of us. When you saw that,
like I had, I was like welling up in tears.
I was so happy for Jackson because I know how
hard that first hint was. And to have your first
home run via Grand Slam like, that's legit, right, That's
(26:12):
that's that's legit. I listen, say Travels. We'll see you
next week. Tell Grayson congrats on our first day at
high school and we'll talk to you soon. Okay, that's
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well litch you in a little come on, a little closer,
a little industry secret. We already did it, okay, so
it'll be you know, we generally do it live top
of the hour, but we already did this one really good. Right.
We have Kelly Kelly Ford, He's does predictive stuff for
college football. That's good. And there's some we make a
(28:17):
ton of fun of. What's her name, kagun oh ygun
Reygun b girl, reagun a gun was what they called
the Bills offense back when Jim Kelly was reagun Is.
I'll give you a little little snippet into it, Okay,
So reagun Is now she came out and said that
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she's mad at people that they made fun of her
because she can't break dance, even though she was the
Olympic breakdancing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
She was just she said, I appreciate all the nice comments,
but the haters really were devastating to me. On one.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Here's the thing, Reagan, right, Reagan, Reagan, I'll look at
the camera. Reagun. Okay, there's a thing called the man,
or in this case, woman in the arena. If you
choose to put yourself, albeit in a complete farce of
a sport called breakdancing, but if you choose to put
yourself in front of the entire world at the Olympics,
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and you're completely incapable of performing it what anyone would
deem to be an appropriate level, you deserve to be
made fun of. It's supposed to be the world's greatest
sporting competition, and so you just you apparently don't have
any friends at home. If you had a friend, they
would say, hey, Reagan, I don't know if you do
(29:35):
this right. I don't know. I don't know if she
is right. It's like if you have a real friend,
will tell you if you have a bug hanging right like, hey,
before you go on date, you got a little got
a bug right there? Or a spot in your shirt,
like going to meet a girl, you got a spiny
like you got a spot in your shirt, Like I
(29:56):
go change the shirt. Reagan has no friends because if
she had friends, they would tell her she can't dance.
So she put herself out in front of the entire
world in a joke of a competition where they called
break dancing and Olympic sport. It's the world's biggest sporting competition.
By the way. The diver who did the dive, and
(30:17):
he it was it was a disaster, belly flop. And
yet all those people going like I could have qualified
for the Olympics, right, did he come out and say
the haters were really devastating. The high jumper who you know,
everybody knows. I jumped the guy that was like, ah,
bailed on it, did he know? I mean, of course
(30:39):
there's the French pole vaulter. I don't think he has
anything to complain about what people said about him on
social media. Let's get to the press. The press.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I love it again, but well, just a thought about
what you were saying. I just realized that over the
years in the Olympics, we've had people who have had
sort of performances actually lean into it and actually come
out great in terms of their brand. Do you remember
Eddie the Eagle, the British ski jumper led team.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All she has to do is lean into it. If
she leaned into it, I mean this, I think she
would have a Super Bowl ad out of it. Like
that's like the perfect Super Bol ad.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I mean the UCLA coach to Sean Foster, he kind
of leaned into it thing at Big ten media day. Yeah,
all right, Doug, I'll take requests.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Because or UCLA were in LA.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They had t shirts printed a former.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
High school teammate of mind to Sean Foster.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's right, the proud he was great in high school,
by the way, to cow hotly Cow, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Uh, I'm ready to take your request if you've got
him on the NBA regular season schedule, because it has
just come out. I've got the entire schedule here at
my fingertips, chronologically for the whole league and team by team,
but the highlights Opening Night, the Celtics beginning defense of
their championship, host the Knicks, the Lakers hosting the Timberwolves.
Five games on Christmas, including the Mavericks hosting the Timberwolves,
(32:06):
the Celtics hosting the Sixers, and the Lakers visiting the
Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
M from What's What's the What can you give me
the games again? One time?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Sorry for Opening Night? Yeah, Celtics hosting the Knicks, Lakers
hosting the Timberwolves. Then as far as the Christmas Day slate,
we've got.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, just just Opening Night for sure, Celtics with all
the faux anger from Celtics fans over Jalen Brown not
making the USA and Tatum uh not really playing a
lot for Team USA. And yeah, Banner Night taking on
the Knicks. Who you got Jalen Brunson, who everybody loves,
and of course took what amounts to one hundred plus
(32:47):
million dollars less than he could have. That'll be a
fun one, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yesterday, the Rams and Cowboys were holding a joint practice
and they had a drill where the Cowboys pass rush
was going up against the Rams offensive line and a
Rams intern college age intern was serving as the simulated
quarterback in the drill. While they run the drill, defensive
(33:13):
line against offensive line and Cowboys defensive tackle, Albert Huggins
knocks down this intern. This intern standing there. Huggins is
in full pads. The intern is just standing there in
regular clothes. The Rams were not happy about it. Obviously,
there was a video of the incident widely spread. Mike McCarthy,
(33:34):
the Cowboys head coach, said about Huggins, Obviously, his behavior
is unacceptable. It's something that's been addressed. He has apologized
and I'm comfortable with his apology. When it did happen,
we removed him from practice. Paul gets standing there is
an intern against drill at full speed by an NFL player.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Wasn't a full speed He a drilled against a little
shove like, let's not overdo it. The guy's back there
like he's playing like the quarterback. Yeah, and he just
finished the drill. Okay, let's not over react. O, don't
don't stand on the field if you don't want to
get hit and pretend to be quarter it. He didn't
get hit, was like he lowered the boom and dropped it.
By the way, what is that top top nine two outs,
Milwaukee taking on the Dodgers three to two counts. Show, Hey,
(34:19):
O Toney up to.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Bat, go ahead, by the way, you were in froll
coach gottlieb drill sergeant mode. There very interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Down the line just just right to the right field
foul pole.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Bob, Bob Youuker must be beside himself.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Bob Buker parks his corvette inside the stadium like.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
If you're Bob Buker, if you do literally whatever he wants. Yes,
And finally, real quick, actually big news in the sports
media world ESPN apparently firing two prominent members of their
pro and college football coverage, Samantha Ponder and Robert Griffin
the third.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And Shoho Tony strikes out and the Brew crew gets
a win. I mean, obviously RG three to say polarizing
figure since entering the media is an understatement completely, but
I mean there's a guy who Heisman Trophy, and I
just there was a lot of non cheristies I thought
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he created, but interesting times to do it now when
you're like a week and a half away, two weeks
away from college football kicking off, and that's suppress all right.
My thanks to Matt Holliday who joined us, to Daniel
Jeremiah who joined us. Make sure you download the podcast again.
I started the day with the same sort of thought,
you know, is will we care about the WNBA now
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and other stuff that generally is more important, even Little
League baseball, to talk about. And we'll find out what
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Olympic gold medal for an NBA championship all of his goals. Yeah,
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well he never won NBA championship, never been close to
NBA championships, So what the hell does he know about?
You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I wouldn't
trade my trade this for like again, unless you know
what it's actually like, you can't say what it's actually like, right,
It's like all, I never would have gone to that
party were you invited? No, but I go if I
was invited, Like really really, But what I want to
(01:06):
talk about the gambling thing. But Notre Dame that's fascinating fasting.
So if you're just joining us and look, I get
and understand, you're talking about Notre Dame swimming right, swim
and diving, like literally only pay attention to it. Winston Olympics.
So if you heard from Isaac Glowincron, they're they're taking
a year off, right, no swim team for a year,
(01:29):
which is interesting because this investigation. And I don't know
when Notre Dames starts school, but I'm guessing it's either
this or next week they start school. So like, are
they still on scholarship? Only they don't have they have
clubs swimming? They have nothing? Are they allowed to get
in the pool? Is the pool clothes? Like pools clothes? Right?
(01:52):
Kind of like the scene of Catashac when they have
the baby baby Ruth that looks like a duty in
the pool, right. Like this whole thing is fascinating me.
Like you show up to school and like, hey, by
the way, guys know swimming and diving Deean this year.
Excuse me, and oh yeah, by the way, I will
point this out. I don't know this firsthand. This is
secondhand knowledge that being a swimming and swimming parent is
(02:17):
the worst. Like imagine, I'm just telling you the worst. Now.
Most of these people who are swimmers are loaded like
it is definitely elitist sport, right, And I don't mean
they spend the money on the speedos. It's just it's
these are you know, taller country club kids really that
that they found something that get them into school. But again,
(02:38):
I don't know if you've been to these youth swim meets,
but there's just kids everywhere, and then you gotta wait
all day for a race and you're just sitting there
and again, forgive me, you're by a pool. Couldn't be
too terrible. But I do know places that does exist.
My sister had her kids swam for a little bit
as well. But I just it brings to mind something
(02:59):
that my buddy, he texted me yesterday. So yesterday I
dropped my daughter off at Oklahoma State and she's in
literally the same dorm and almost the same area of
the same wing of the dorm that I was in
my first year at OSU and it was really cool.
And my buddy and former teammate Scott Robish, who played
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Oaklama State and then he transferred to Butler, asked if
there was still casino night at the at at Bennett Hall,
and then then we were going back and forth about
it and he's like, yeah, you could. You always remember
Casino night was after everybody got their scholarship check and
some dudes got their pelgrant check and then it was
it was on right and there was always one room
(03:45):
where it was on and you walk in and the
way those rooms work at this particular dormitory was there
were some singles down below in on the first floor,
but the rest of them were you know, you get
like three rooms they all have their own bathroom, or
two rooms they have their own bathroom, and then there's
a main room and thing went on in the main room,
which is super weird right now if you think about
it like now as an adult, you like, whoa, they're
(04:05):
a little kitchenette and there it'd be really cool. But
regardless of which, the one room in which there was
something going on in the little kind of gathering room
was one of our teammates rooms. Where again like when
it was Christmas time and no one's around and we
got our scholarship check and we get our yellow per
diem as well, like it would be on and again
(04:27):
college campuses. Everybody knows a bookie on college campuses, right
like cal State Fullerton, which it was more of a
communter school. It's less of community school now. You had
to know a bookie when you're there, correct, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, of course, if you didn't know a bookie, you
knew someone who could hook you up with a book
and then that person in the middle is probably taking
your bets and not calling him into the bookie prophet.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
When you were at wake was there, did you know
a bookie right away?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Not really, can't say I was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
You didn't see gambling on a college campus.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My friends definitely gambled.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I was. I was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was kind of a bit nerdy and just kind
of working on my working my ass off at the time.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's not surprising to be a little bit nerdy. I'm
just so humble. Brod's working too hard. I was working
too hard. It was just that was hard. I thought.
Somehow you bring it back to Detroit, That's what I
thought you would somehow to do? Uh, I know what
about you?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I was totally sheltered when I was in college, But
many years after the fact, I started putting two and
two together about various things that I saw a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Of that way.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, So for people who haven't heard the story, explained,
so they had they bet on themselves against themselves. Other
people like how did how did it? Again? I know
this is kind of initial reports that we're reading, but
Notre Dame has has paused their swimming program, and I
don't know that swimming and diving. Did they have diving?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
No, no, no, no, it's just men's swimming, men's diving, and
women's swimming and diving are completely unaffected.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, so men's swimming, so they were what does the
reports say they were doing?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
They essentially created their own sports book. These details reported
by Pat Forty of si dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
By the way, Pat has a daughter that swims sun.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh that's right, yes, At it's about it all the time. Yeah, At,
I don't remember, I'll look it up. It's a big
time program.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Pat. And for people who know Pat forty, right, he's
covered college sports forever and he veered into covering swimming
because his kids swim. Maybe kids swim Missouri where he went,
I can't remember. But anyway, okay, so what was the well,
were they been on an NFL We've been in college.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
No, they were betting on themselves because, as he points out,
there are no gambling companies that take wagers or have
lines on college swimming. It's not exactly your big gambling sport.
So they did it themselves. They did over underlines, they
placed wagers on the outcomes, and part of the suspension
it was for gambling, but also for cultural issues and
(06:56):
forty reports that there was a troubling group text that
was very inappropriate that was found during the investigation. Notre
Dame also said that the coaching staff was not aware
at all of the scope of the gambling or any
of the other behaviors because quote, team members effectively concealed
(07:18):
such behaviors from the coaches and staff through concerted efforts unquote,
So the coaching staff did not have a part of
this at all and legitimately no knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I will point out that, I mean, just again, I
don't think there's if there's something like racially divisive or
negative like in the text like doesn't shouldn't exist, but again,
and there's there's a line there, and everybody knows up
when you've totally crossed the line. College dudes and text
(07:53):
like yeah again, I'm not giving anybody pass because I
haven't read them. I just know that anyone who has
been around eighteen to twenty two year old dudes know
that you have a tendency to say lots of things.
My fifteen year old's done something to me the other
day where I nearly like, I literally did pull off
the through and I'm like, what, my bad, I didn't
(08:13):
mean to say that, right, Okay, Can I give you
guys my best gambling story from college?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh yeah, okay, the NCAA is listening, by the way, welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Whatever I think, statue limitations, whatever. So my backcourt mate,
former All American, dear friend, Joe Atkins, there are lots
of things that you want to do with him. You
want to play basketball him because he wins and he's
got that level of confidence, bordinering arrogance. Right. He's also
a guy that is brilliant on a very like For example,
(08:48):
he got back from playing in Russia his second year
playing professional basketball and Whereas when I played in Russia,
I bought a house. He bought what's it called machines,
vending machines in Oklahoma City, and I was like, why
did you do this? Like, dude, cash money? He just so.
That's when in the off season what he would do
(09:10):
was he'd go and he'd work his own vending machines,
go and pick it up. And it's always he still
has them, makes money doing that, right, brilliant dude from
a just a real standpoint. But he's also never shoot
dice with them. I don't know what he does to him,
and don't play cards with him because he's just good good.
I don't know how he does it. So we had
(09:31):
a guy named Mike Johnson shout out Mike J. Who
was came for a little bit of money. He's now,
I believe, works with his dad in commercial real estate
in Kansas City. He transferred. We were roommates his second
year there, my second year there for half a semester.
Then he transferred to William Mary. Had a really good
career and but Mike J was like our whale, right,
(09:52):
like no disrespect, but no one felt bad when he
took money off. Mike J. Because he could just call
his dad and get None of us had money, like
Mike j his dad had some money. So, like I said,
casino night, there was two different casino nights. We had
a manager who had a house and in their garage.
They had a craps table at a blackjack table they
had I can't remember what else they had. They had
(10:16):
one more format. I think they had a poker table
as well. Maybe it might have been roulette. Yeah, you
going there. It was like a little legit casino. And
then the kind of kind of old school casino night
would be at Bennett Hall and Christmas right around Christmas
Break nineteen ninety seven. It's a long time ago. I
(10:36):
walked in on casino night and I walk in and
there is a lot of cash in there. And remember
this is a lot of cash for college kids, right
like two hundred and fifty bucks. And there's also a Sony Discman.
Do you guys remember Sony Diskman? Profet, you're not old enough,
you probably don't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, I had a discman, Okay you did, Yeah, yeah,
I had I had a CD man.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, So a Sony Discman, which is the time like
that was as valuable then as an iPhone is now.
And then I walked in. There's also a bike lock
in there, like, what are you guys playing? So they're
playing a C douc between the sheets over under? Do
you guys know know that game? Very very simple game, right.
You have two cards on the outside and you're betting
(11:20):
that the card that's drawn is going to be below
those two. So if it's King Ace, you always bet
the pot. You always bet the pot, and unless the
next card over is a King or an Ace, you
take home the pot if you If you if King
and Ace and you bet pot and it's a King
(11:40):
or an Ace, you have to match the pot. When
you're out of money, you have to come up with
some collateral. And the collateral in this particular case was
a Sony discman and it ended up being Mike Johnson's
mountain bike. So but I forgive me, I digress. We
go back. When I walked in, there was asking just
the disc man in there, and Mike Jay is up
(12:03):
and he says pot to King Ace. He's talking, he
was a big trash talker. He's already counting his money.
He's looking at the pot, he's counting how much it
is there's a whole build up. There's like ten guys
in the room. Yes, we were drinking at the time,
probably smoking some black and Miles as well, and King
flips over and dudes go crazy. We like, Mike, Jay,
(12:26):
you got to match the pot. And the pot at
that point was probably five hundred bucks if you count
the Sony discman the two hundred and fifty bucks whatever
else is in there. So we came up with the bike.
So he puts the bike clock. So then he's hopeful
that we can go around the room to where he
gets another opportunity to bet pot to get his bike back.
He didn't. Who got the bike? Joe Watkins got the bike.
(12:47):
Fast forward to the next day and what our coach
would do, the late great Hall of Famer Eddie Sutton
would do, is we'd oftenties practice in the morning, Like
why are you practice in the morning. We don't have to.
You have the gym all day right, no one else
is around campus. He would do it. We couldn't stay
up all night because you can't pray. He can't well,
he can't fly with the eagles. He hoot with the owls.
So practice at nine o'clock the next day. Everyone has
(13:09):
the rule. You gotta be on the court fifteen minutes before,
usually sometimes thirty minutes before. You gotta be taped fifteen
minutes before you got to be shooting warmed up. So
when blow the whistler, practice is ready to go. Eight
forty five, everyone's there. No Joakins. Eight fifty everyone's there,
No Joackins. Eight fifty seven. Joe Akins kicks in the
door to the arena, comes pedaling in onto his newly
(13:32):
earned bicycle, parks at mid court, locks it, and then
starts shooting around, at which point everybody's dying laughing. The
coaches are even laughing. They don't even know what it's about.
We tell them like Ac Doosey got Mike Jay until
he lost his bike. That's my best gambling story. That's
(13:53):
what I got for you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That's a great one.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just the build up of where is Joe? Where is
Joe when he comes riding in on a bicycle and
then locks it at mid court. He unlocked it, moved it,
and we had ourselves in practice. That's amazing though. That
the swimming team, I would love to know how they
found out. I would I would. I mean, I'd love
to know how it skewed the results. What those guys
are doing all year, right, how many of them they
(14:19):
can't leave? You can't transfer at this point time. Plus
it's Notre Dame like you're going there for the school
for the be part of the you know, be part
of the subway alums.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I bet it was some petty thing that happened. So
if you have all these people in on it, all
it takes is one person in the group to be alienated.
So if you like make fun of like the twerp
on the swim team, he's like, Okay, I'll go to
compliance about this little gambling thing you had, and we'll see.
We'll see who's laughing at the end of the day.
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So you're saying he leaked the info about their gambling pool.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
See, that's why you guys are good together because you
love it. The literation and there's no one who's more
illiterate than I Low. Wait, did that call him literate? No,
he's corny. He's corny and literally yeah.
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It's Dog Gottliebschell, you're on Fox Sports Radio and if
we want to talk baseball, who better than a seven
time All Star in Matt Holliday, who joins us now
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
you do know is I'm a fan of your son Jackson.
Well you don't know is our entire show has kind
of adopted him. So after you know, he got sent
(15:43):
back down after his first thirty or so at bats,
we were all kind of devastated for him, wondering what
would happen next. Now, of course, since he's been called up,
he's back to what we all thought he would be
as a number one prospect in baseball. What's this been
like for you, as not just dad, but former Major
leaguer and kind of his own personal hitting code.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
This season for your son, Well, I think it's been
I think sometimes you have to put.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The thing in perspective. I think realizing that he's only
twenty years old and just reminding him that he's ahead
of schedule, and you know, I think he was he
was frustrated and it kind of embarrassed with how the
first time around went and not not what he expected,
didn't play like he expected. He's a very self confident kid,
(16:29):
and so that was kind of the first time that
he'd really had that kind of failure in his life
in baseball. So I think just kind of help him
work through, you know that, and the reminder that you know,
he's twenty and even triple A and you know it's
still he's still you know, right where he needs to be,
and just kind of trying to make some adjustments and
(16:49):
and that's part of part of the game and been
part of uh baseball is you know, you're going to
get your buckets and you've got to get back up
and figure out why and try to you know, punch
back and figure out what kind of Adjustice is going
to make. And then so it's been it's been good.
I mean it's been it's been uh, it's part of it.
And so it's been, Uh, it's been challenging, I'm sure
(17:10):
at times for him and for for you know, me
trying to watch and trying to help. And but at
the same time, it comes with it comes with the territory,
it comes with the job. It's part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, there's for people don't know, major leaguers come
and stop by your house all off season, you know,
talk hitting to work through their things. Right, so this
is something you actually do in your post career career. Well,
what's the challenge? Like twofold one? Again, it's your son,
so you know his swing better than anybody else, right,
so you're trying to figure out, like do we change mechanics,
(17:44):
do we tweak mechanics, how do we do it right?
And then oh yeah, by the way, you're also mid
season with it, which, as we all know, like anytime
you're trying to change something or tweak something or fix
something in the season, it can make it really really difficult.
It's better to have an off season to do it.
What's that challenge in.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Like, yeah, I mean I think it was just little
subtle things, you know, I think that it wasn't anything major,
just some little things that kind of habits that that
can happen that both he and I could see together.
But sometimes it's hard to make those changes and sometimes
you know, it's it's like you said, in the middle
of the season, you can see it on tape, but
(18:21):
actually make that mechanical adjustment can be difficult, and so
you know, just just a couple of little things with
softening his front knee and uh, just just try to
try to do little things that that kind of trying
to figure out ways that don't take the competitiveness out
of it, because it's still when you get in the box,
you can't be thinking about mechanics. It's got to be
(18:43):
the competition between you and the picture and and and
you can't be thinking about your mechanics. The game make work.
You know, moves way too fast. So just just little
things that he had kind of a little habit he's
got into that it was causing him to be a
little bit late on the fastball, and you can't be
late on the fastball, particularly in the major leagues. It's
just there's too much velocity these days to have any timing,
(19:06):
you know, sort of errors going on in your swing.
It gets exposed pretty quickly. So it is tough, like
you said, during the season to try to make mechanical adjustments,
but sometimes just a little tweak here or there can
really unlock the feeling that you want to have of
being on time and ready to swing when you want
to swing instead of sort of reacting.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You had a tough half season with the Oaklan a'ge
right before you were traded to the Sailor's Cardinals. I'm
just wondering you can even imagine what it would be
like to be on the White Sox.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's one of those things
where it's I mean twenty something with twenty one losses
in a row or three weeks straight of losing. I mean,
it's I don't I mean, that'll test your metal. I mean,
that'll test your your love of the game, that'll test
your you know, your motivation and playing and you know
it's it's it's tough. I mean, I can't imagine. Uh,
(20:01):
you know, I think it's just one of the things
as a player you have to try to avoid getting selfish.
At the same time. You have to go out there
and then play and and and know that you know,
you kind of are playing for yourself at that point
because you're so far out of anything from a team accomplishment.
But it's just not as fun to play for yourself
(20:24):
and not play for the team and play to win,
And that can be a very difficult challenge I think
for an athlete when you get on a bad team.
Is how do you balance the idea of playing well
for your next opportunity or playing well for the future
without sacrificing like the love and joy of trying to
win and play for your teammates, and so uh, that
(20:47):
can be that can be a tricky proposition when you're
playing so much and every day and you have to
show up at the field with the realization that it's
not a great chance that you're going to win, but
at the same time you have to play to win,
you know. It's just it's an interesting situation. I think
when you get pro sports teams like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Have you seen this that Major League Baseball is they're
weighing a six inning requirement for starting pitching now again
and this is they haven't done it yet, but it
feels like it's in the exploratory phase, right, And this
feels like a couple of years ago, the exploratory phase
of putting a runner on second base in extra innings. Right. So,
(21:26):
with the idea in mind of getting starting pitchers to
go through six, of course, there's a couple of amendments
to it.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
If you throw one hundred pitches early on, then you
can take them out. If you give up four more
earned runs, you can take them out. And if you
get injured, of course you can take them out. Like look, dude,
you're you're what we're in basketball. We have what's called
guardians of the game. You're kind of a guardian of
Major League Baseball. How does this land on you?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Well, I think it promotes more of what it used
to be. I mean, I think you're sort of forcing
the game to go back to what it used to be,
and that you know, you would get as a as
a as an offensive player, you would get at least
two and then a lot of times three at bats
off the starter. I think it promotes more offense, which
I think has always kind of been the goal recently
(22:12):
is to promote more offense. And so by having a
pitcher has to go six innings, and like you said,
I mean obviously the pitch counts, and you have to
protect their health and all those things. I mean, I
think it's an interesting idea. I don't know that. I mean,
you're starting to mess with the strategy of the game
pretty pretty distinctly, you know. I mean, that's a pretty
(22:35):
that's a pretty big move as far as you know,
telling the team what they can and can't do. So
I'd have to think more about it. Like I said,
I think it does promote more offense, and it would
make it easier on the hitters, and it would probably
make relievers less valuable. Again, like you know, it probably
you know, take you back to where the starters were
(22:56):
the most valuable and the relievers lead a little bit
of a value and and and so you know, you
look at kind of all that how that affects the
game and the players. But I don't know, I think
it's interesting. I would probably say, no, I wouldn't wouldn't do,
wouldn't mess with it, mess with the game's rules to
that to that extent.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
But you know, like I said, I I do think
it t favors the hitter, which I was a hitter,
so I'm all about changing things up for the hitter.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Uh. Last thing, your your favorite home run, Like if
you close your eyes, you think of your favorite home
run you've ever hit?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Was what, oh man, uh probably probably the NLCA uh
to go to the World Series to sweep the Diamondbacks
and uh in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So you're in Colorado. Yeah, game in Colorado or game
in in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Game in Colorado, I think I believe it was game four,
was maybe the Sports or maybe fifth or sixth Inny
Uh uh, I think we were up a runner two
but this three run homer kind of like.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
What was the count?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Shoot?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you remember counts? Don't give me that you remember counts.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I really don't remember exactly. I think it was a
two to one slider maybe Micah Owings.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You see that sucker and you hit it? Where'd you did?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Left center, centerfield, center field? I knew it was gone.
It was one of those deals. The crowd went crazy.
It was kind of a cold October night in Colorado
or and and uh, but it was it was a
good feel. I was like, you know, we when they went,
it was sences like we knew we were going to
the World Series. So that was That was probably number one.
And then you know, I obviously had a few others that.
(24:42):
You know, my last home run I hit in Saint
Louis was really cool, and and uh and some other.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh that's right, wait didn't you?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Was it the Saint Louis one was on? That was
on your last was it your last game?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It was supposed to be, but I ended up pinch
hit in the next day.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, okay, okay, so okay, better feeling the NLCS or
Jackson's first home run when it was a Grand Slam.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Ah, It's just so different, you know. I think, look
for your kid, I mean, the excitement and like the
just the joy you have to watch your kids succeed
and to do something that they love to do is
I think it just trumps anything that I've ever done
in my life of my career. I just I really,
(25:31):
you know, I love my kids like you do, and
I just watch them do things and for that to
happen for him and you know, kind of get that
a little bit of a you know, kind of a
monkey off of his back as far as just you know,
needing something like that to kind of propel him and
you know what, I know he can do. I'll take
that one, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, that that's why I asked, because I mean, again,
you're an incredibly accomplished guy, won a World Series, seven
All Stars and four times Silver Slucker. And yet I'm
sure you're like the rest of us. When you saw that,
like I had, I was like welling up in tears.
I was so happy for Jackson because I know how
hard that first hint was. And to have your first
home run via Grand Slam like, that's legit, right, That's
(26:12):
that's that's legit. I listen, say Travels. We'll see you
next week. Tell Grayson congrats on our first day at
high school and we'll talk to you soon. Okay, that's
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Doug Goteb Show Fox Sports Radio. Got a good show.
It's good to be back. Uh. Programming note tomorrow morning,
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So Buyer's got to get up early too.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Buyer will be here.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
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well litch you in a little come on, a little closer,
a little industry secret. We already did it, okay, so
it'll be you know, we generally do it live top
of the hour, but we already did this one really good. Right.
We have Kelly Kelly Ford, He's does predictive stuff for
college football. That's good. And there's some we make a
(28:17):
ton of fun of. What's her name, kagun oh ygun
Reygun b girl, reagun a gun was what they called
the Bills offense back when Jim Kelly was reagun Is.
I'll give you a little little snippet into it, Okay,
So reagun Is now she came out and said that
(28:38):
she's mad at people that they made fun of her
because she can't break dance, even though she was the
Olympic breakdancing.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
She was just she said, I appreciate all the nice comments,
but the haters really were devastating to me. On one.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Here's the thing, Reagan, right, Reagan, Reagan, I'll look at
the camera. Reagun. Okay, there's a thing called the man,
or in this case, woman in the arena. If you
choose to put yourself, albeit in a complete farce of
a sport called breakdancing, but if you choose to put
yourself in front of the entire world at the Olympics,
(29:13):
and you're completely incapable of performing it what anyone would
deem to be an appropriate level, you deserve to be
made fun of. It's supposed to be the world's greatest
sporting competition, and so you just you apparently don't have
any friends at home. If you had a friend, they
would say, hey, Reagan, I don't know if you do
(29:35):
this right. I don't know. I don't know if she
is right. It's like if you have a real friend,
will tell you if you have a bug hanging right like, hey,
before you go on date, you got a little got
a bug right there? Or a spot in your shirt,
like going to meet a girl, you got a spiny
like you got a spot in your shirt, Like I
(29:56):
go change the shirt. Reagan has no friends because if
she had friends, they would tell her she can't dance.
So she put herself out in front of the entire
world in a joke of a competition where they called
break dancing and Olympic sport. It's the world's biggest sporting competition.
By the way. The diver who did the dive, and
(30:17):
he it was it was a disaster, belly flop. And
yet all those people going like I could have qualified
for the Olympics, right, did he come out and say
the haters were really devastating. The high jumper who you know,
everybody knows. I jumped the guy that was like, ah,
bailed on it, did he know? I mean, of course
(30:39):
there's the French pole vaulter. I don't think he has
anything to complain about what people said about him on
social media. Let's get to the press. The press.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I love it again, but well, just a thought about
what you were saying. I just realized that over the
years in the Olympics, we've had people who have had
sort of performances actually lean into it and actually come
out great in terms of their brand. Do you remember
Eddie the Eagle, the British ski jumper led team.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All she has to do is lean into it. If
she leaned into it, I mean this, I think she
would have a Super Bowl ad out of it. Like
that's like the perfect Super Bol ad.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I mean the UCLA coach to Sean Foster, he kind
of leaned into it thing at Big ten media day. Yeah,
all right, Doug, I'll take requests.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Because or UCLA were in LA.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They had t shirts printed a former.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
High school teammate of mind to Sean Foster.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's right, the proud he was great in high school,
by the way, to cow hotly Cow, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Uh, I'm ready to take your request if you've got
him on the NBA regular season schedule, because it has
just come out. I've got the entire schedule here at
my fingertips, chronologically for the whole league and team by team,
but the highlights Opening Night, the Celtics beginning defense of
their championship, host the Knicks, the Lakers hosting the Timberwolves.
Five games on Christmas, including the Mavericks hosting the Timberwolves,
(32:06):
the Celtics hosting the Sixers, and the Lakers visiting the
Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
M from What's What's the What can you give me
the games again? One time?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Sorry for Opening Night? Yeah, Celtics hosting the Knicks, Lakers
hosting the Timberwolves. Then as far as the Christmas Day slate,
we've got.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Well, just just Opening Night for sure, Celtics with all
the faux anger from Celtics fans over Jalen Brown not
making the USA and Tatum uh not really playing a
lot for Team USA. And yeah, Banner Night taking on
the Knicks. Who you got Jalen Brunson, who everybody loves,
and of course took what amounts to one hundred plus
(32:47):
million dollars less than he could have. That'll be a
fun one, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yesterday, the Rams and Cowboys were holding a joint practice
and they had a drill where the Cowboys pass rush
was going up against the Rams offensive line and a
Rams intern college age intern was serving as the simulated
quarterback in the drill. While they run the drill, defensive
(33:13):
line against offensive line and Cowboys defensive tackle, Albert Huggins
knocks down this intern. This intern standing there. Huggins is
in full pads. The intern is just standing there in
regular clothes. The Rams were not happy about it. Obviously,
there was a video of the incident widely spread. Mike McCarthy,
(33:34):
the Cowboys head coach, said about Huggins, Obviously, his behavior
is unacceptable. It's something that's been addressed. He has apologized
and I'm comfortable with his apology. When it did happen,
we removed him from practice. Paul gets standing there is
an intern against drill at full speed by an NFL player.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Wasn't a full speed He a drilled against a little
shove like, let's not overdo it. The guy's back there
like he's playing like the quarterback. Yeah, and he just
finished the drill. Okay, let's not over react. O, don't
don't stand on the field if you don't want to
get hit and pretend to be quarter it. He didn't
get hit, was like he lowered the boom and dropped it.
By the way, what is that top top nine two outs,
Milwaukee taking on the Dodgers three to two counts. Show, Hey,
(34:19):
O Toney up to.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Bat, go ahead, by the way, you were in froll
coach gottlieb drill sergeant mode. There very interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Down the line just just right to the right field
foul pole.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Bob, Bob Youuker must be beside himself.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Bob Buker parks his corvette inside the stadium like.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
If you're Bob Buker, if you do literally whatever he wants. Yes,
And finally, real quick, actually big news in the sports
media world ESPN apparently firing two prominent members of their
pro and college football coverage, Samantha Ponder and Robert Griffin
the third.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And Shoho Tony strikes out and the Brew crew gets
a win. I mean, obviously RG three to say polarizing
figure since entering the media is an understatement completely, but
I mean there's a guy who Heisman Trophy, and I
just there was a lot of non cheristies I thought
(35:17):
he created, but interesting times to do it now when
you're like a week and a half away, two weeks
away from college football kicking off, and that's suppress all right.
My thanks to Matt Holliday who joined us, to Daniel
Jeremiah who joined us. Make sure you download the podcast again.
I started the day with the same sort of thought,
you know, is will we care about the WNBA now
(35:41):
the WNBA has taken a break and we have football
and other stuff that generally is more important, even Little
League baseball, to talk about. And we'll find out what
the ratings tomorrow. This is Doug Gottlieb Show here on
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