July 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Doug Gottlieb and the crew throwback to 1996 and relive all the monumental events from that year. Plus, Doug chats with Ross Tucker, hears more fun stories from the press, and much more!
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we get you ready for an NFL season. You know,
and I guess my question going in the season. I
know they didn't win the Super Bowl? Eagles did Eagles
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have a lot of questions because you lost your offensive coordinator, right,
and but it still feels like they have better talent
than most people. It's not everybody, but there are definitely
some moving pieces there. And then for the Kansadate Chiefs
at will there be a moment where the league catch
us up to him? Offensive line is still a mess,
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and you know didn't play well in the Super Bowl.
But like, I'm not gonna be the guy that counts
out the Chiefs. I mean, how many years in a
row are we talking about? This is the year that
they level off and they just have not So we'll
catch up with Ross Stucker upcoming. But we do this
every Thursday, and it's a great way to kind of
play the way back machine. Jason Stewart's not here, not
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because his Dodgers didn't win. They actually won last night.
Pretty planned day off, although the previous days off we
only because the Dodgers had lost. But he came with this,
But it's a great idea. It's called don't call it
a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, Patrick A Right, what's the year we're throwing
it back to?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
All right, Doug, So here's what we're doing. It's customary
that I interrupt you with Jackson fairpoint. You all take
it from here, Doug, go ahead, say that, go ahead,
So all take it from here. Dog, that's your best
Chesson Steward, Well, we're gonna go with the year nineteen
ninety six. Why did I choose nineteen ninety six? Well,
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with Hulk Hogan's rest in peace to him today. With
that being said, he actually turned into Hollywood Hulk Hogan
in nineteen ninety six, So I'm like, hey, you know what,
why don't we use that That was a prominent moment
in his career. Let's do that. So with that said,
we're going nineteen ninety six. I was also alive during
that point. I'm not gonna say how young I was,
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but I was alive. So we got that. So that said,
let's go with the sports. The first one I got
going sports. With the sports going first, we got the
Summer Olympics were hosted in Atlanta, and that actually was
the US women's national soccer team won their first Olympic
gold medal there. So that happened in nineteen ninety six
in the Summer of Olympics in Atlanta. We'll see what
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else we got. Oh NBA Finals, all right, this was
the Chicago.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hold on, slow down, holding on, hold on, hold on. Okay,
So Patrick, Yes, I love you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is dog who lived through it. And Patrick who's
like reading it on the end Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He's like, no, end it And the US swimen's soccer
team would it, Like, no, dude, that's not what the
Olympics were known for.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was one years old, to give me, give me
a little bit of slack.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm no, but you volunteered and put yourself out there.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Ilo. The Olympics in Atlanta were known for three things.
What were they?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I was going to get to what I think was
one of them. But aside from that, the other two,
unfortunately the bombing and centennial and Centennial Park and Carrie, Oh,
Carrie Strog. I'd forgotten big about carry Strug, right, I forgot,
but that was huge back in the day. It was
so huge. She parlayed that into a cameo on nine
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O two one zero. It's unbelieving and you would attest
to it how big the Carrie Strug thing was back then.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, So, Patrick, do you have any idea what we're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
No, Like he doesn't even know who Bella Coroli is. Nope.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That sounds like something carry you can do car That.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Sounds like something you'd order on like Uber eat tonight, Like,
hey guys, there's some Bella. This place has got Bella Coroli.
Really Yeah, let's I don't know. I don't like to
eat that outside like the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So fresher enoughs. Yeah, can't take it to go.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Definitely, definitely can't take that. Bella Corolian. By the way,
Bella corole rip right, didn't he die? I want to
say he died this year anyway? I digress?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Uh, yeah, he he died. He died November of twenty
twenty four, So you're correct.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So in the last three hundred and sixty five days,
there we go. So Carrie Shrugs sprained her ankle, the
levels of which we don't know, but she completed I
want to say, a gold medal in the vault on
one leg and like landed on one leg right, and
it was seen as a heroic moment, and it's it's
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in the course of actual performance in the ninety six Olympics.
It's what I think is the most memorable moment, right
is that fair? I love? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Absolutely? I mean she was literally America's sweetheart. I mean
you could not turn on NBC for like three days
after that without seeing Carrie strug Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And then the Olympic bombing was what they were? What
was what the games? What was the guy who got blamed.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Richard Jewell, the security guard who was actually as it
turned out a hero and actually saved people by clearing
the area, and he was found guilty by the court
of public opinion until they found out it was actually
Eric Robert Rudolph years later.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Did you guys ever see that movie Richard Jewell that
came out in twenty nineteen. I heard it was really good.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
No, I saw a documentary about him, but not the movie.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So also, I think Andrea, I Guessie won. I think
that was the first year they had ten Was that
the first year tennis? I'm I'm forgetting, but remember this
is when they started allowing pros in the Olympics as well.
And yes, women's soccer was kind of a thing, but
that was because I want to say, that was the
first time they had women's soccer in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And they played it if I'm if my memory serves
me out of all places between the hedges at Sanford
Stadium in Athens, and you know what, I was going
to mention this so I might as well do it
now as part of the nineteen ninety six Olympics. And
it's so crazy. Before I knew we were going to
talk about this today, I actually thought about this morning
for the first time in a long time, but one
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of my most memorable moments in sports history the lighting
of the torch that year at that Yes, it was.
It was a total surprise. No nobody knew that it
was going to be It was going to be him.
And I'll play it for you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Here.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
This is Janet Evans going up a long, tall, winding
ramp at Centennial Olympic Stadium, which was later converted into
Turner Field, the Home of the Braves, and all of
a sudden, Muhammad Ali emerges out of the darkness. The
whole stadium gasps, and here's how it sounded on NBC
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with Bob Costas and Dick Enberg as a lead got
ready to light the torch in nineteen ninety six at
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But look who gets it next.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The greatest, once the.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Most dynamic figure in sports, a gregarious man, now trapped
inside that mask created by Parkinson syndrome. So in one
sense of poignant figure. But look at it, a great,
great presence, still exuding nobility and stature, and the response
of Volks's part affection, part excitement, but especially respect.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Just a spine tingling moment that I'll always remember.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Nineteen ninety six a huge year in the NBA. That
was when the Chicago Bulls won of then records seventy
two games. And that was also the year that Kobe
Bean Bryant was drafted thirteenth overall by the Charlotte Hornets,
only on a draft day trade to be traded to
the LA Lakers nineteen ninety six in the NBA, do.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You guys remember can we go back just to carry? Uh? Scrug?
Is that struw shrug? I'm just struggling right now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It was like you guys going up drug. I was
pick the year which you guys have. Yeah, okay, you
didn't know carry shrugg?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
No, I No, I didn't, I did. I just forgot
it was listen, Okay, I'm just being full fully transparent,
like yes exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That's the thing I love about iowash Sam. When she's
wrong about something, he's wrong about it in like a
really entertaining way.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Very good. Well. She she came on SNL and she
did this sketch with Chris Catan as her like fictional
brother Skippy. I remember that being very funny because Chris
Chris Catan was like a huge deal in SNL in
the late nineties and do you remember her coming on anyway?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know what, maybe when Kobe being Bryant came and
I'm doing my best Jason here wearing all that's today.
Maybe you know, when Kobe being Brian came into the NBA,
he might have been listening to this song on his walkman. Yes,
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I brought up the I brought up the Quad Cities
earlier is where Seth Rollins was from. But this is
like to the Quad City DJ is from the state
of Florida. Yes, and they would have a few more hits,
but that was that year. In nineteen ninety six was
uh let's see, that was a number eleven on the
Billboard Hot one hundred by the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I remember ninety ninety six, jam I visited I
was my ninety six ninety seven was the season I
went to Goldmus College, didn't play basketball pranks for the team,
and visited Alabama. That song was playing at the Husks.
Good time was had by all the Husks. Ninety six
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in the NFL, and again remember you gotta get you
gotta be careful with ninety six because the ninety six
season became the ninety seven Super Bowl, right, that was
a year. It was won by the Green Bay Packers
led by Brett farre who take down the New England
Patriots who were led by Drew Bledsoe and Bill Parcells.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yes, indeed, and that was Parcell's last game because Will mcdonnough,
the late father of Sean mcdonnough, broke the news the
day before the Super Bowl that Parcels was leaving to
coach the New York Jets. I would say, that's a distraction.
You know, you're getting ready to play the Super Bowl.
If you fight out your head coach isn't even gonna
fly back with you on the way home. And what
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Desmond Howard, former Heisman Trophy winner, was the Super Bowl
MVP that year as he returned the key kickoff all
the way back for a touchdown. And that was also
the year that the Yankees, right, the Yankees started their
dynasty nineteen ninety six, and Derek Jeter was a rookie
and Gitah number two Gita shortstop Derek Eric set too.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Getah, did you know that that World Series? I don't
how much you remember of it. Yankee started up down
two games to none. They lost the first two games
at a home at Yankee Stadium. Absolutely went back to
Fulton County Stadium and began a progression, winning four straight. Yeah,
Fulton County Stadium, Old.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Fulton County Stadium. Yeah, in the most dramatic way possible.
That was the Jim Layritz tying home run in Game four.
They win game five to one to nothing, and then
they came home and they won the World Series in
nineteen ninety six, and that was the start of the
Yankees dynasty. But yeah, that's a great point. They lost
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the first two at home, everybody thought they were toast
and then they then they came back to win the
nineteen ninety six World Series and then start the dynasty.
Let me think is was this the year we're talking about? Yeah? Okay,
So the National Championship in college basketball that year, DOUG
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was won by John excuse me, Rick Patinos Kentucky Wildcats
over Syracuse. But what that was most notable to me
about or for me, was that was the last time
a final exactly it was played at the Meadowlands in
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New Jersey. That was the last time that an NCAA
Final four and National championship game was not played in
a dome. And I actually think that. I think we
might have talked about it on this show before, but
I think they'd be they do. Well, it'll never happen
because it makes too it makes too much sense. But
I think they should move it back into an arena.
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I think it makes so much money. And yeah, exactly,
that's why it'll never happen. That's why it'll never happen.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So I love. Let me just I'm just gonna help
you with the math here. Okay, what do you think
the average ticket the Final four is?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Geez, I mean in a dome? Let's say let's say
one hundred and twenty bucks?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay average? No, you're way off, just because remember there's
three games. It's a lot more than Okay, but let's
let's say the average ticket, like, do you want to
go with two hundred fus? Low? But okay, two hundred?
What is two hundred times seventy five thousand?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Hey, it ain't my money, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No, no, no, I just want to do this for
math real quick, because I've done this before. Sam, Do
you got your calculator out.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Calculating right now?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What is he?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Ai? So you want to two hundred dollars time seventy
five thousand, fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I had, Rightyl. Now, let's increase the price of each
ticket to five hundred dollars a ticket, So you're going
two point five x okay? What is okay? What is
five hundred times twenty thousand? If you had twenty thousand
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in one of the biggest arenas in the country, could
you please calculate that. We all know the answer to it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Ten million dollars. Okay, A seven million dollars shortfall.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, Like I said, it ain't never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So if the tickets were expensive enough, you could move
it back to a smaller arena. But that just is
gonna squeeze people out.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
No, it'll never have any guys on the money, that's clear.
But what I'm saying is that from an esthetics point
of view.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, it's a real basketball game in a real basketball arena.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But it's never gonna happen again. And you're right, by
the way. Nineteen ninety six college football season, which wrapped
up in nineteen ninety seven, was the Florida Gators of
the national champion coached by the headball coach Steve Spurrier.
Hell well, we got two quarterbacks, go out there, see
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we got one. He doesn't get a job. Do I
get somebody else in there? Yep, you'd like to play
Georgia first game of season. I always have a couple
of guys suspend it.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's not bad that headball coach, that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We created when I was at one of the other
places I worked at, we created the Spurrier zone. Right,
what's the Spurris So Bill Simmons is the author of
the Tyson zone. The Tyson zone is Mike. The stories
about Mike Tyson A is so crazy. But there's not
a story about Mike Tyson. You wouldn't believe to be true. Correct,
Like you said Mike Tyson fought a bear. You'd be like, yeah,
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I can see that. Steve Spurrier had the Spurrier zone.
We created that. Which is he's so accomplished in the
sport of college football. You know, Heisman Trophy winner, National
champion at Florida before Florida was really invested in terms
of their facilities in the sport. One at Duke got
South Carolina to Atlanta to the SEC championship game. That
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there's nothing, nothing holding it. He could speak his mind
and say whatever the hell he wanted the Spurrier's OWNE
loved Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Hey, by the way, since you brought up Mike Tyson.
Nineteen ninety six was also the year that he met
Evander Holyfield for the first time. The second time in
nineteen ninety seven was the infamous fighting incident. But here's
how the first fight between Tyson and holy Field ended.
In nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Holy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Cares about body, I've got.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
To prity short.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That was a TKO of Tyson by holy Field, and
up until that point that was just the second time
that Tyson had ever lost in forty some for fights. Obviously,
the first was to Buster Douglas in nineteen ninety and
then of course the ear biting incident would be the
following year.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And that's don't Oh, we haven't even done movies, have we.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Independence Day?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Independence Day?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh, gosh, Independence Day? Well was that ninety six or
ninety Oh? No, you're right, it was ninety six. Good job,
I got you.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Jerry maguire, Jerry McGuire.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Titanic, Oh, I think Titanic was ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I want to say sometimes there's some overlap.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, Twister Oh, that was a big one.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Original sister first Mission Impossible movie versus the Mission Impossible movies. Right,
because that's back when Will Smith owned into Penn's day,
not just the movie, but he had it was like
four consecutive years of the big blockbuster. Back when people
used to go good movies. Patrick, people used to plan
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on going to movies on the fourth of July to
see Will Smith. Anyway, it's a long time ago, and
that's don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
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Pro wrestling legend Hulk Hogan has passed away at the
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Jets quarterback Justin Fields just located a toe on his
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training camp story as a guy who famously was in
training camp this year or during my time, your time,
I don't care about this year. Training camp is not
fun anymore, and it's not that hard anymore.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, Doug my rookie
year in Washington with Marty Schottenheimer his only year there.
We went fool pads, two three hour practices the first
twelve days, and guys were getting hurt all over the place.
I think the fourth day I tore my mcl I
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can remember Bruce Smith and Darryl Green complaining and saying
dropping like flies, Boss, dropping like flies. And I remember
saying to my parents, man, I really hope I make it,
because I'm only going to do it one year. I
can only like, I have no idea how these guys
do this, Like I'm just gonna do one year, say
that I made the NFL and get into investment banking
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or something. I just couldn't believe how hard it was.
And then maybe the funnier story was the next year
Doug with Steve Spurrier as head coach. And you know
the thing that people don't realize about training camp is
that's your competition, you know, Like I think fans look
at like, oh, they're all on the same team. No, no, no,
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we're not on the same team. So we ran a
reverse and practice Doug and I came back and peeled
back on the reverse and totally blindsided this defensive end
and just obliterated them, right, And they got all in
my face and they're like, that's your teammate.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
And I said, nobody's told me I'm on the team yet.
Nobody's I'm on the team yet, right, so I'm going
to play full throttle. That was the morning practice. Doug.
We come out for the afternoon and the offensive line coach,
Kim Helton, Clay Helton's dad from up to me and says, hey, Tuck.
I said, yeah, I said, you're going to be on
the team. Try not to kill anybody, Okay, I said, okay,
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that's all I need to hear. That all I need
to hear was I was on the team, and then okay,
but I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna let up one
iota until I knew I was part of this.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
He's Ross, Tucker, He joins us. He as the Ross
Tucker Football Podcast. You gotta check it out. Let's just
start with the good teams. The Eagles have been here
before in terms of Super Bowl. They've been here with
Jalen Hurts before, and they've been here when they lost
their coordinators. They lose their offensive coordinator and there was
some slippage in there was it wasn't great the first year.
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Why when they had to change coordinators back when Shane
Steiken left right, So, what does the Eagles offense look
like this year when you lose your offensive coordinator to
the Norlan Saints.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
It's a great question. I think it's the correct question
because if you actually go back, Doug So when they
won the first Super Bowl in twenty seventeen, they lost
Frank Reich to the Colts, yep, and they promoted from
within might grow and it did not go well. And
then two years ago again you said that they go
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to the Super Bowl, they they're awesome. Stiking goes to
the Colts. The next year, they promote from within Brian Johnson.
It did not go well. They have a much better
track record when they bring in outside coordinators. This time,
yet again they elected to promote from within with Kevin Patulo.
I think the talking point is that two years ago
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they were so good that year that they lost to
both of the chiefs that they kind of when they
promoted from within, they just kind of kept the same
playbook and teams that studied them the whole offseason. It
kind of got sale and they kind of caught up
to him. So the messaging this year is innovate, change, adapt,
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and so they swear that they're going to make a
lot of adjustments that people can't get a read on
them the way I always say it, Doug, and you'll
appreciate this right, like, yes, he's been there a while,
or any of these coaches have been there a while.
But there's a difference when you're in the dorm room
and you're watching your buddies play ad in or EA
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college football. There's a difference between sitting there and watching
for like two hours, and then when the controller's in
your hands and you got the stix, you know, like
you might be great watching him and you know what's called,
you know what plays to call. When you're just sitting there,
you know, eating General Soo's kicken or whatever you're doing,
it's a little bit different when you're the one actually
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calling it, and since Patulo has never done it, we
really don't know. What we do know is they're absolutely loaded,
easily the best offensive line in the league, maybe the
best wide receiver tandem, easily the best running back, a
top five tight ends, I mean there's no and obviously
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an MVP Super Bowl quarterback who there's debate whether he's
top five or top ten or whatever. I just know
he plays his best when it matters the most. But
we're talking about, you know, a historically talented offense.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, let's go to the other team, The Kansa City Chiefs.
Kind of a mess once they got to the Super Bowl, right,
just out manned. I mean really, and you had the
thought that Kelsey might hang it up. He's back awesome weight,
but you know, father time is a real thing. I
know tight ends have been able to fight it off,
probably better than anybody else. I'm just wondering, ross like,
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I'm not predicting or gloom and doom. I would I'm
smart enough to know. End the day and you read
and Pat Mahomes seen to figured it out. But at
some point in time the rest of the AFC has
to catch up. Is this the year.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
So what's fascinating about that is I've lost track, but
they've won like fifteen consecutive one score games, right, And
if you look at their yards per play a year ago,
which is a very key statistic, they actually averaged less
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yards per play than their opponents. And they went fifteen
and two, and the last game against the Broncos they
didn't even try. It was the third string guy that
didn't even count. The only game they really lost was
to the Bills. So there are some people that will
look at that and maybe right belisso and say, listen,
I don't care how good Mahomes is, there's gonna be
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some regression in terms of them winning all these one
score games and they're not really that great and they're
really more like an eleven win team, I believe it
or not. Kind of looked the other way, and you know,
Rashi Wright got hurt, he was out, Hollywood Brown got
hurt early, he didn't come back so late. I thought
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Davior Worthy did some good things. Now Wright's going to
be suspended to start the year. But when they have
those three guys, Worthy can fly, Hollywood Brown can fly,
Rashi right with outstanding. When they have all those guys
in the build the same time, and I do think
they'll be better at tackle. I love Josh Simmons coming
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out of Ohio State and the tape I've seen of
him in training camps. He looks pretty healthy to me,
So I think the Chiefs are going to have a
really good team. If I had to pick a team
to win it all, I probably would pick the Chiefs
because I think they'll be healthier and better, and I
do think they're motivated after getting embarrassed in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Okay, if that was your pick, then will Josh Allen
ever win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Oh gosh, I hope so. I don't know how much
time you spent around him. He's like the greatest dude.
Out of the five teams I played for, I had
by far the best experience with the Bills. I love
those people. I love Western New York. It's like playing
college football or for a college team, except you're getting
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paid like that. The fans treat you so well. They're
so appreciative to have a team up there. I think
Alan was the deserving MVP last year. Lamar had a
an amazing season, but when you look at the support
that Lamar had around him. I don't think a single
other Buffalo Bill was first or second team All Pro.
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I don't even know how many other guys even made
the Pro Bowl. For Josh Allen to do what he
did a year ago was incredible. I hope that they
break through, you know, as a former Bill, I'll be
rooting for them, But it's kind of one of those
things now where it's like I'll believe it when I
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see it, you know. I just I think it's a
mental hurdle. They just when they played the Chiefs, and
they be them every year in the regular seasons, but
when it gets to the playoffs, there's there's something in
their sub in their collective subconscious for both teams, and
the Chiefs just know somehow at the end of the
game they're going to win, and the Bills, I think
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that doubt creeps in a little bit and they find
a way to not get it done. I would love
to see it happen, but I kind of will believe
it when I see it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Russ What's futurefans dot Com?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Well, so, I wish I would have learned about this earlier.
My daughters are now thirteen and twelve. I took them
to the Super Bowl and learned how much they don't
know about football. And I've been talking to my buddies.
I don't know, Doug. If I your friends are the
same way. It's really hard to get your kids to
sit down and watch the games with you. Like, you
know what, I don't like that, Like I sit there
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and watch every game with my dad. But now like
they don't really want to watch the whole game. They
want to be on their iPad or they want to
just watch the highlights later. These guys from futurefans dot com,
they kind of cracked the code. I met him a
year ago. They're Bengals fans, Doug, that could not get
their kids to watch the Bengals Super Bowl run a
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few years ago. And their kids are like, now watch
next year, Dady're like, no, no, no, we're Bengals. There
is no next year. Sit on the couch. But just
telling your kids to sit on the couch and watch
doesn't work. It doesn't work unless they actually understand the game.
These guys came up with a book that has a
story book led activity box with it. They've cracked the code,
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and think about how valuable it is to have your
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Speaker 1 (33:23):
Awesome stuff. Ross, enjoy the preseason all your camp trips
as well. Thanks so much for being our guests.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Sounds great. Thank you, Doug.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 1 (34:36):
The great Jim Abbott will join us tomorrow. If you've
seen the new documentary South Paul, you know it's about
his life and times. Kind of a hero of mine
and that kind of was a hero of mine when
I was a kid. It's interesting with Jim Abbott. You know,
some people like, wow, he's such an inspiration to children
across the country back in the nineties because he was
born without his hand, Like he was an inspiration to
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children with all their appendances, because you're like, well, if
Jim Abbot can be a stud pitcher in Major League
Baseball with one hand, what's my excuse anyway? Jim Abbot
tomorrow on the show, Let's get ties of Glacron and
the press.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The press, they all right, Doug. Today, Cleveland Brown's general
manager Andrew Barry answered questions.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
He answered questions about rookie quarterback Shador Sanders being cited
twice for excessive speeding during the off season. Here is
what Barry had to say about it.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Not smart, just not smart. And it's something that we've
addressed with him. You know, he understands the inclinations, he
understands the consequences. We don't want some type of catastrophic
apps and like, right, we saw that, you know, two
years ago, and what was a Dallas or Houston with
a you know, with a player, and in that incident,
everybody was lucky to walk away, and we don't want
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that occurring in you know, with with anyone in our organization.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
And for the records, Sam was cited for driving ninety
one and one hundred and one miles per hour, respectively.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
The other part about it, usually when you're cited for
ninety one, you weren't going ninety one, right. Usually you're
going like like, ah, I catch your break here, I'll
get you below a ninety five or below one hundred.
So he was going one hundred and one. My guess
is he was really going one hundred and ten.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Oh boy, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of
it that way. It just makes it even even more terrifying,
and not just that it happened once, but it happened twice. Meanwhile,
in another NFL training camp scenario, Buffalo Bill's running back
James Cook entering the final year of his contract. He
(36:47):
did report to training camp and today was asked about
a potential extension that is still apparently in the office.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I mean, we have talks.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I'm never going to give up. I mean, I did
what I want my knee, and it's gonna eventually happen.
I mean how it happened, it is gonna get done.
Wherever you're happy, is that?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And a few eyebarrows were raised because of that last part.
He said, they're wherever it's at, which I'm sure Buffalo
Bills fans are worried about as they prepare to jump
onto their tables.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like, I get that
the running back thing. Everybody thinks running back thing was
destroyed because last year Derrick Henry was awesome and Saquon
Barkley was awesome and whatever. But the fight wasn't over
giving them a contract. The fight was over the giving
them a three year guaranteed contract. And I don't I
don't see that changing.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, that's a good point. And I think generally Barkley
and Henry as great of a story as they were,
I think that they're more outliers, yeah than anything else
in his credit to them. Boy, I'll tell you why.
First thing this morning, everybody in the NFL was absolutely
freaking out because the first report of what happened with
(38:00):
the Jets was Justin Fields card it off the field,
non contact injury, in practice. And when those first details emerge,
oh my gosh, here we go. Gets Yeah, well exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I'll only tell you this again. I'm gonna state this
because I know it's true. The perfect example of why
the Jets are covered more than they deserve to be
is what happened this morning. So it happens. Mike Greenberg's
on his show and he's like, I can't even talk.
I'm so like broken up over this thing. Like it's
because of the Jets and because the Syracuse mafia. All
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these dudes that grew up on Long Island are working
in sports and they care about and look, I don't
want anything bad to happen to Justin Fields. But let's
not act like he's any good. It's his third team
in three years for a reason. He hurt his big toe,
his sergeant Holka.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
But the it's the reference finally makes sense. Now, I
was like, I was just gonna ask, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You're big toe?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I haven't ever been stripe sergeant. Okay, yeah, stripes.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, you've never seen stripes.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I've never seen stripes. Look blame my wife about this,
because she's the one who introduces me.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa me Alco, Sam, how long have
you been with your wife?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well, we've been married for eleven years?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So what about team?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
What about before that.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Gay guiltiest charge? She's the one who took me to
see Star Wars and The Godfather for the first time.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The class I guess.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, stripes is not Star Wars and the Godfather, but.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
All right.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Harold Ramis is really iconic. John Candy, I'm I'm Canady
enormous fans of John Candy and Harold Ramis.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But what about Bill? What about Bill Murray?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Bill Murray is what kind of training?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Army training? Sir? Me trading? Sir Nothing, that's a fact, Jack,
that's a fact, Jack nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
No, I mean, I'm sure I've caught scenes in passing
here or there. But I've never seen.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Even though I've seen stripes.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
All right, what but I didn't know I didn't know
Sergeant Hulka until just then, so hotel.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So so we start tell we started, Hey, Isaac lighting
up Francis.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Lighting up Francis, and he all so that's where that
came from. Okay, I've heard the lighting up Francis.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So we all have a lot of drops. Hold I'm
not done yet. Go ahead, I'll get dump it on
the chamber. Hold on, here, I have lighting up Francis classic.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Okay, all timeline right there, All timeline, that's the fact.
That's the fact check.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Who we gave Isaac an assignment? All right?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Where it all came from? Yeah, so how about this
for full circle? We opened the show talking about Hulk,
We ended the show talking about Hulk, and that's the
edition of the press. Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well, look, I actually think and and I don't actually
care if you think I sound insensitive over a guy
who accomplished a lot, made a lot of money, passing
away at the age of seventy one. Because again, just
like we found out at some point in time that
the wrestling wasn't wrestling. We found out that, I mean,
(41:46):
I don't know, dude, that the audio tape. That's enough
for me. I'm good. I'm not going to canonize the
dude who uses who says, who says that word so
easily and admits to being a bit of a racist,
a bit things. But again, part of that is what
our childhood was like, which is maybe why now we
don't believe anything. I think I nailed something at the end.
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our guy Ross Tucker is going to join us as
we get you ready for an NFL season. You know,
and I guess my question going in the season. I
know they didn't win the Super Bowl? Eagles did Eagles
(00:43):
have a lot of questions because you lost your offensive coordinator, right,
and but it still feels like they have better talent
than most people. It's not everybody, but there are definitely
some moving pieces there. And then for the Kansadate Chiefs
at will there be a moment where the league catch
us up to him? Offensive line is still a mess,
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and you know didn't play well in the Super Bowl.
But like, I'm not gonna be the guy that counts
out the Chiefs. I mean, how many years in a
row are we talking about? This is the year that
they level off and they just have not So we'll
catch up with Ross Stucker upcoming. But we do this
every Thursday, and it's a great way to kind of
play the way back machine. Jason Stewart's not here, not
(01:26):
because his Dodgers didn't win. They actually won last night.
Pretty planned day off, although the previous days off we
only because the Dodgers had lost. But he came with this,
But it's a great idea. It's called don't call it
a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, Patrick A Right, what's the year we're throwing
it back to?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
All right, Doug, So here's what we're doing. It's customary
that I interrupt you with Jackson fairpoint. You all take
it from here, Doug, go ahead, say that, go ahead,
So all take it from here. Dog, that's your best
Chesson Steward, Well, we're gonna go with the year nineteen
ninety six. Why did I choose nineteen ninety six? Well,
(02:14):
with Hulk Hogan's rest in peace to him today. With
that being said, he actually turned into Hollywood Hulk Hogan
in nineteen ninety six, So I'm like, hey, you know what,
why don't we use that That was a prominent moment
in his career. Let's do that. So with that said,
we're going nineteen ninety six. I was also alive during
that point. I'm not gonna say how young I was,
(02:34):
but I was alive. So we got that. So that said,
let's go with the sports. The first one I got
going sports. With the sports going first, we got the
Summer Olympics were hosted in Atlanta, and that actually was
the US women's national soccer team won their first Olympic
gold medal there. So that happened in nineteen ninety six
in the Summer of Olympics in Atlanta. We'll see what
(02:57):
else we got. Oh NBA Finals, all right, this was
the Chicago.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hold on, slow down, holding on, hold on, hold on. Okay,
So Patrick, Yes, I love you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is dog who lived through it. And Patrick who's
like reading it on the end Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He's like, no, end it And the US swimen's soccer
team would it, Like, no, dude, that's not what the
Olympics were known for.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was one years old, to give me, give me
a little bit of slack.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm no, but you volunteered and put yourself out there.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Ilo. The Olympics in Atlanta were known for three things.
What were they?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I was going to get to what I think was
one of them. But aside from that, the other two,
unfortunately the bombing and centennial and Centennial Park and Carrie, Oh,
Carrie Strog. I'd forgotten big about carry Strug, right, I forgot,
but that was huge back in the day. It was
so huge. She parlayed that into a cameo on nine
(03:56):
O two one zero. It's unbelieving and you would attest
to it how big the Carrie Strug thing was back then.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, So, Patrick, do you have any idea what we're
talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
No, Like he doesn't even know who Bella Coroli is. Nope.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That sounds like something carry you can do car That.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Sounds like something you'd order on like Uber eat tonight, Like,
hey guys, there's some Bella. This place has got Bella Coroli.
Really Yeah, let's I don't know. I don't like to
eat that outside like the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So fresher enoughs. Yeah, can't take it to go.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Definitely, definitely can't take that. Bella Corolian. By the way,
Bella corole rip right, didn't he die? I want to
say he died this year anyway? I digress?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Uh, yeah, he he died. He died November of twenty
twenty four, So you're correct.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So in the last three hundred and sixty five days,
there we go. So Carrie Shrugs sprained her ankle, the
levels of which we don't know, but she completed I
want to say, a gold medal in the vault on
one leg and like landed on one leg right, and
it was seen as a heroic moment, and it's it's
(05:13):
in the course of actual performance in the ninety six Olympics.
It's what I think is the most memorable moment, right
is that fair? I love? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Absolutely? I mean she was literally America's sweetheart. I mean
you could not turn on NBC for like three days
after that without seeing Carrie strug Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And then the Olympic bombing was what they were? What
was what the games? What was the guy who got blamed.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Richard Jewell, the security guard who was actually as it
turned out a hero and actually saved people by clearing
the area, and he was found guilty by the court
of public opinion until they found out it was actually
Eric Robert Rudolph years later.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Did you guys ever see that movie Richard Jewell that
came out in twenty nineteen. I heard it was really good.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
No, I saw a documentary about him, but not the movie.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So also, I think Andrea, I Guessie won. I think
that was the first year they had ten Was that
the first year tennis? I'm I'm forgetting, but remember this
is when they started allowing pros in the Olympics as well.
And yes, women's soccer was kind of a thing, but
that was because I want to say, that was the
first time they had women's soccer in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And they played it if I'm if my memory serves
me out of all places between the hedges at Sanford
Stadium in Athens, and you know what, I was going
to mention this so I might as well do it
now as part of the nineteen ninety six Olympics. And
it's so crazy. Before I knew we were going to
talk about this today, I actually thought about this morning
for the first time in a long time, but one
(06:50):
of my most memorable moments in sports history the lighting
of the torch that year at that Yes, it was.
It was a total surprise. No nobody knew that it
was going to be It was going to be him.
And I'll play it for you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Here.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
This is Janet Evans going up a long, tall, winding
ramp at Centennial Olympic Stadium, which was later converted into
Turner Field, the Home of the Braves, and all of
a sudden, Muhammad Ali emerges out of the darkness. The
whole stadium gasps, and here's how it sounded on NBC
(07:27):
with Bob Costas and Dick Enberg as a lead got
ready to light the torch in nineteen ninety six at
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But look who gets it next.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The greatest, once the.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Most dynamic figure in sports, a gregarious man, now trapped
inside that mask created by Parkinson syndrome. So in one
sense of poignant figure. But look at it, a great,
great presence, still exuding nobility and stature, and the response
of Volks's part affection, part excitement, but especially respect.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Just a spine tingling moment that I'll always remember.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Nineteen ninety six a huge year in the NBA. That
was when the Chicago Bulls won of then records seventy
two games. And that was also the year that Kobe
Bean Bryant was drafted thirteenth overall by the Charlotte Hornets,
only on a draft day trade to be traded to
the LA Lakers nineteen ninety six in the NBA, do.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You guys remember can we go back just to carry? Uh? Scrug?
Is that struw shrug? I'm just struggling right now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It was like you guys going up drug. I was
pick the year which you guys have. Yeah, okay, you
didn't know carry shrugg?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
No, I No, I didn't, I did. I just forgot
it was listen, Okay, I'm just being full fully transparent,
like yes exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That's the thing I love about iowash Sam. When she's
wrong about something, he's wrong about it in like a
really entertaining way.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Very good. Well. She she came on SNL and she
did this sketch with Chris Catan as her like fictional
brother Skippy. I remember that being very funny because Chris
Chris Catan was like a huge deal in SNL in
the late nineties and do you remember her coming on anyway?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know what, maybe when Kobe being Bryant came and
I'm doing my best Jason here wearing all that's today.
Maybe you know, when Kobe being Brian came into the NBA,
he might have been listening to this song on his walkman. Yes,
(09:46):
I brought up the I brought up the Quad Cities
earlier is where Seth Rollins was from. But this is
like to the Quad City DJ is from the state
of Florida. Yes, and they would have a few more hits,
but that was that year. In nineteen ninety six was
uh let's see, that was a number eleven on the
Billboard Hot one hundred by the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I remember ninety ninety six, jam I visited I
was my ninety six ninety seven was the season I
went to Goldmus College, didn't play basketball pranks for the team,
and visited Alabama. That song was playing at the Husks.
Good time was had by all the Husks. Ninety six
(10:29):
in the NFL, and again remember you gotta get you
gotta be careful with ninety six because the ninety six
season became the ninety seven Super Bowl, right, that was
a year. It was won by the Green Bay Packers
led by Brett farre who take down the New England
Patriots who were led by Drew Bledsoe and Bill Parcells.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yes, indeed, and that was Parcell's last game because Will mcdonnough,
the late father of Sean mcdonnough, broke the news the
day before the Super Bowl that Parcels was leaving to
coach the New York Jets. I would say, that's a distraction.
You know, you're getting ready to play the Super Bowl.
If you fight out your head coach isn't even gonna
fly back with you on the way home. And what
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Desmond Howard, former Heisman Trophy winner, was the Super Bowl
MVP that year as he returned the key kickoff all
the way back for a touchdown. And that was also
the year that the Yankees, right, the Yankees started their
dynasty nineteen ninety six, and Derek Jeter was a rookie
and Gitah number two Gita shortstop Derek Eric set too.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Getah, did you know that that World Series? I don't
how much you remember of it. Yankee started up down
two games to none. They lost the first two games
at a home at Yankee Stadium. Absolutely went back to
Fulton County Stadium and began a progression, winning four straight. Yeah,
Fulton County Stadium, Old.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Fulton County Stadium. Yeah, in the most dramatic way possible.
That was the Jim Layritz tying home run in Game four.
They win game five to one to nothing, and then
they came home and they won the World Series in
nineteen ninety six, and that was the start of the
Yankees dynasty. But yeah, that's a great point. They lost
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the first two at home, everybody thought they were toast
and then they then they came back to win the
nineteen ninety six World Series and then start the dynasty.
Let me think is was this the year we're talking about? Yeah? Okay,
So the National Championship in college basketball that year, DOUG
(12:48):
was won by John excuse me, Rick Patinos Kentucky Wildcats
over Syracuse. But what that was most notable to me
about or for me, was that was the last time
a final exactly it was played at the Meadowlands in
(13:10):
New Jersey. That was the last time that an NCAA
Final four and National championship game was not played in
a dome. And I actually think that. I think we
might have talked about it on this show before, but
I think they'd be they do. Well, it'll never happen
because it makes too it makes too much sense. But
I think they should move it back into an arena.
(13:33):
I think it makes so much money. And yeah, exactly,
that's why it'll never happen. That's why it'll never happen.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So I love. Let me just I'm just gonna help
you with the math here. Okay, what do you think
the average ticket the Final four is?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Geez, I mean in a dome? Let's say let's say
one hundred and twenty bucks?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay average? No, you're way off, just because remember there's
three games. It's a lot more than Okay, but let's
let's say the average ticket, like, do you want to
go with two hundred fus? Low? But okay, two hundred?
What is two hundred times seventy five thousand?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Hey, it ain't my money, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No, no, no, I just want to do this for
math real quick, because I've done this before. Sam, Do
you got your calculator out.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Calculating right now?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What is he?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Ai? So you want to two hundred dollars time seventy
five thousand, fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I had, Rightyl. Now, let's increase the price of each
ticket to five hundred dollars a ticket, So you're going
two point five x okay? What is okay? What is
five hundred times twenty thousand? If you had twenty thousand
(14:47):
in one of the biggest arenas in the country, could
you please calculate that. We all know the answer to it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Ten million dollars. Okay, A seven million dollars shortfall.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, Like I said, it ain't never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So if the tickets were expensive enough, you could move
it back to a smaller arena. But that just is
gonna squeeze people out.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
No, it'll never have any guys on the money, that's clear.
But what I'm saying is that from an esthetics point
of view.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, it's a real basketball game in a real basketball arena.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But it's never gonna happen again. And you're right, by
the way. Nineteen ninety six college football season, which wrapped
up in nineteen ninety seven, was the Florida Gators of
the national champion coached by the headball coach Steve Spurrier.
Hell well, we got two quarterbacks, go out there, see
(15:41):
we got one. He doesn't get a job. Do I
get somebody else in there? Yep, you'd like to play
Georgia first game of season. I always have a couple
of guys suspend it.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's not bad that headball coach, that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We created when I was at one of the other
places I worked at, we created the Spurrier zone. Right,
what's the Spurris So Bill Simmons is the author of
the Tyson zone. The Tyson zone is Mike. The stories
about Mike Tyson A is so crazy. But there's not
a story about Mike Tyson. You wouldn't believe to be true. Correct,
Like you said Mike Tyson fought a bear. You'd be like, yeah,
(16:16):
I can see that. Steve Spurrier had the Spurrier zone.
We created that. Which is he's so accomplished in the
sport of college football. You know, Heisman Trophy winner, National
champion at Florida before Florida was really invested in terms
of their facilities in the sport. One at Duke got
South Carolina to Atlanta to the SEC championship game. That
(16:39):
there's nothing, nothing holding it. He could speak his mind
and say whatever the hell he wanted the Spurrier's OWNE
loved Steve Spurrier.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Hey, by the way, since you brought up Mike Tyson.
Nineteen ninety six was also the year that he met
Evander Holyfield for the first time. The second time in
nineteen ninety seven was the infamous fighting incident. But here's
how the first fight between Tyson and holy Field ended.
In nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Holy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Cares about body, I've got.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
To prity short.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That was a TKO of Tyson by holy Field, and
up until that point that was just the second time
that Tyson had ever lost in forty some for fights. Obviously,
the first was to Buster Douglas in nineteen ninety and
then of course the ear biting incident would be the
following year.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
And that's don't Oh, we haven't even done movies, have we.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Independence Day?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Independence Day?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh, gosh, Independence Day? Well was that ninety six or
ninety Oh? No, you're right, it was ninety six. Good job,
I got you.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Jerry maguire, Jerry McGuire.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Titanic, Oh, I think Titanic was ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I want to say sometimes there's some overlap.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, Twister Oh, that was a big one.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Original sister first Mission Impossible movie versus the Mission Impossible movies. Right,
because that's back when Will Smith owned into Penn's day,
not just the movie, but he had it was like
four consecutive years of the big blockbuster. Back when people
used to go good movies. Patrick, people used to plan
(18:26):
on going to movies on the fourth of July to
see Will Smith. Anyway, it's a long time ago, and
that's don't call it throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 4 (21:14):
Pro wrestling legend Hulk Hogan has passed away at the
age of seventy one after he severed cardiac arrest at
his home in Clearwater, Florida. In the NFL, New York
Jets quarterback Justin Fields just located a toe on his
right foot in practice today, but Fields is expected to
be ready for the regular season opener in Week one
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Speaker 1 (22:08):
The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, and our next
guests carved out such a great career for himself as
somebody who if you're going to cover the NFL, you
better love what you do because it is a hard job,
and he does it really, really well. His name is
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call him at Ross Tucker NFL and ross your favorite
training camp story as a guy who famously was in
training camp this year or during my time, your time,
I don't care about this year. Training camp is not
fun anymore, and it's not that hard anymore.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, Doug my rookie
year in Washington with Marty Schottenheimer his only year there.
We went fool pads, two three hour practices the first
twelve days, and guys were getting hurt all over the place.
I think the fourth day I tore my mcl I
(23:14):
can remember Bruce Smith and Darryl Green complaining and saying
dropping like flies, Boss, dropping like flies. And I remember
saying to my parents, man, I really hope I make it,
because I'm only going to do it one year. I
can only like, I have no idea how these guys
do this, Like I'm just gonna do one year, say
that I made the NFL and get into investment banking
(23:36):
or something. I just couldn't believe how hard it was.
And then maybe the funnier story was the next year
Doug with Steve Spurrier as head coach. And you know
the thing that people don't realize about training camp is
that's your competition, you know, Like I think fans look
at like, oh, they're all on the same team. No, no, no,
(23:59):
we're not on the same team. So we ran a
reverse and practice Doug and I came back and peeled
back on the reverse and totally blindsided this defensive end
and just obliterated them, right, And they got all in
my face and they're like, that's your teammate.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
And I said, nobody's told me I'm on the team yet.
Nobody's I'm on the team yet, right, so I'm going
to play full throttle. That was the morning practice. Doug.
We come out for the afternoon and the offensive line coach,
Kim Helton, Clay Helton's dad from up to me and says, hey, Tuck.
I said, yeah, I said, you're going to be on
the team. Try not to kill anybody, Okay, I said, okay,
(24:41):
that's all I need to hear. That all I need
to hear was I was on the team, and then okay,
but I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna let up one
iota until I knew I was part of this.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
He's Ross, Tucker, He joins us. He as the Ross
Tucker Football Podcast. You gotta check it out. Let's just
start with the good teams. The Eagles have been here
before in terms of Super Bowl. They've been here with
Jalen Hurts before, and they've been here when they lost
their coordinators. They lose their offensive coordinator and there was
some slippage in there was it wasn't great the first year.
(25:14):
Why when they had to change coordinators back when Shane
Steiken left right, So, what does the Eagles offense look
like this year when you lose your offensive coordinator to
the Norlan Saints.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
It's a great question. I think it's the correct question
because if you actually go back, Doug So when they
won the first Super Bowl in twenty seventeen, they lost
Frank Reich to the Colts, yep, and they promoted from
within might grow and it did not go well. And
then two years ago again you said that they go
(25:52):
to the Super Bowl, they they're awesome. Stiking goes to
the Colts. The next year, they promote from within Brian Johnson.
It did not go well. They have a much better
track record when they bring in outside coordinators. This time,
yet again they elected to promote from within with Kevin Patulo.
I think the talking point is that two years ago
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they were so good that year that they lost to
both of the chiefs that they kind of when they
promoted from within, they just kind of kept the same
playbook and teams that studied them the whole offseason. It
kind of got sale and they kind of caught up
to him. So the messaging this year is innovate, change, adapt,
(26:38):
and so they swear that they're going to make a
lot of adjustments that people can't get a read on
them the way I always say it, Doug, and you'll
appreciate this right, like, yes, he's been there a while,
or any of these coaches have been there a while.
But there's a difference when you're in the dorm room
and you're watching your buddies play ad in or EA
(27:01):
college football. There's a difference between sitting there and watching
for like two hours, and then when the controller's in
your hands and you got the stix, you know, like
you might be great watching him and you know what's called,
you know what plays to call. When you're just sitting there,
you know, eating General Soo's kicken or whatever you're doing,
it's a little bit different when you're the one actually
(27:23):
calling it, and since Patulo has never done it, we
really don't know. What we do know is they're absolutely loaded,
easily the best offensive line in the league, maybe the
best wide receiver tandem, easily the best running back, a
top five tight ends, I mean there's no and obviously
(27:44):
an MVP Super Bowl quarterback who there's debate whether he's
top five or top ten or whatever. I just know
he plays his best when it matters the most. But
we're talking about, you know, a historically talented offense.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, let's go to the other team, The Kansa City Chiefs.
Kind of a mess once they got to the Super Bowl, right,
just out manned. I mean really, and you had the
thought that Kelsey might hang it up. He's back awesome weight,
but you know, father time is a real thing. I
know tight ends have been able to fight it off,
probably better than anybody else. I'm just wondering, ross like,
(28:21):
I'm not predicting or gloom and doom. I would I'm
smart enough to know. End the day and you read
and Pat Mahomes seen to figured it out. But at
some point in time the rest of the AFC has
to catch up. Is this the year.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
So what's fascinating about that is I've lost track, but
they've won like fifteen consecutive one score games, right, And
if you look at their yards per play a year ago,
which is a very key statistic, they actually averaged less
(28:55):
yards per play than their opponents. And they went fifteen
and two, and the last game against the Broncos they
didn't even try. It was the third string guy that
didn't even count. The only game they really lost was
to the Bills. So there are some people that will
look at that and maybe right belisso and say, listen,
I don't care how good Mahomes is, there's gonna be
(29:16):
some regression in terms of them winning all these one
score games and they're not really that great and they're
really more like an eleven win team, I believe it
or not. Kind of looked the other way, and you know,
Rashi Wright got hurt, he was out, Hollywood Brown got
hurt early, he didn't come back so late. I thought
(29:38):
Davior Worthy did some good things. Now Wright's going to
be suspended to start the year. But when they have
those three guys, Worthy can fly, Hollywood Brown can fly,
Rashi right with outstanding. When they have all those guys
in the build the same time, and I do think
they'll be better at tackle. I love Josh Simmons coming
(29:59):
out of Ohio State and the tape I've seen of
him in training camps. He looks pretty healthy to me,
So I think the Chiefs are going to have a
really good team. If I had to pick a team
to win it all, I probably would pick the Chiefs
because I think they'll be healthier and better, and I
do think they're motivated after getting embarrassed in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Okay, if that was your pick, then will Josh Allen
ever win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Oh gosh, I hope so. I don't know how much
time you spent around him. He's like the greatest dude.
Out of the five teams I played for, I had
by far the best experience with the Bills. I love
those people. I love Western New York. It's like playing
college football or for a college team, except you're getting
(30:47):
paid like that. The fans treat you so well. They're
so appreciative to have a team up there. I think
Alan was the deserving MVP last year. Lamar had a
an amazing season, but when you look at the support
that Lamar had around him. I don't think a single
other Buffalo Bill was first or second team All Pro.
(31:10):
I don't even know how many other guys even made
the Pro Bowl. For Josh Allen to do what he
did a year ago was incredible. I hope that they
break through, you know, as a former Bill, I'll be
rooting for them, But it's kind of one of those
things now where it's like I'll believe it when I
(31:30):
see it, you know. I just I think it's a
mental hurdle. They just when they played the Chiefs, and
they be them every year in the regular seasons, but
when it gets to the playoffs, there's there's something in
their sub in their collective subconscious for both teams, and
the Chiefs just know somehow at the end of the
game they're going to win, and the Bills, I think
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that doubt creeps in a little bit and they find
a way to not get it done. I would love
to see it happen, but I kind of will believe
it when I see it.
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Speaker 1 (33:23):
Awesome stuff. Ross, enjoy the preseason all your camp trips
as well. Thanks so much for being our guests.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Sounds great. Thank you, Doug.
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The great Jim Abbott will join us tomorrow. If you've
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his life and times. Kind of a hero of mine
and that kind of was a hero of mine when
I was a kid. It's interesting with Jim Abbott. You know,
some people like, wow, he's such an inspiration to children
across the country back in the nineties because he was
born without his hand, Like he was an inspiration to
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children with all their appendances, because you're like, well, if
Jim Abbot can be a stud pitcher in Major League
Baseball with one hand, what's my excuse anyway? Jim Abbot
tomorrow on the show, Let's get ties of Glacron and
the press.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The press, they all right, Doug. Today, Cleveland Brown's general
manager Andrew Barry answered questions.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
He answered questions about rookie quarterback Shador Sanders being cited
twice for excessive speeding during the off season. Here is
what Barry had to say about it.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
Not smart, just not smart. And it's something that we've
addressed with him. You know, he understands the inclinations, he
understands the consequences. We don't want some type of catastrophic
apps and like, right, we saw that, you know, two
years ago, and what was a Dallas or Houston with
a you know, with a player, and in that incident,
everybody was lucky to walk away, and we don't want
(35:56):
that occurring in you know, with with anyone in our organization.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
And for the records, Sam was cited for driving ninety
one and one hundred and one miles per hour, respectively.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
The other part about it, usually when you're cited for
ninety one, you weren't going ninety one, right. Usually you're
going like like, ah, I catch your break here, I'll
get you below a ninety five or below one hundred.
So he was going one hundred and one. My guess
is he was really going one hundred and ten.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Oh boy, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of
it that way. It just makes it even even more terrifying,
and not just that it happened once, but it happened twice. Meanwhile,
in another NFL training camp scenario, Buffalo Bill's running back
James Cook entering the final year of his contract. He
(36:47):
did report to training camp and today was asked about
a potential extension that is still apparently in the office.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I mean, we have talks.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
I'm never going to give up. I mean, I did
what I want my knee, and it's gonna eventually happen.
I mean how it happened, it is gonna get done.
Wherever you're happy, is that?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And a few eyebarrows were raised because of that last part.
He said, they're wherever it's at, which I'm sure Buffalo
Bills fans are worried about as they prepare to jump
onto their tables.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like, I get that
the running back thing. Everybody thinks running back thing was
destroyed because last year Derrick Henry was awesome and Saquon
Barkley was awesome and whatever. But the fight wasn't over
giving them a contract. The fight was over the giving
them a three year guaranteed contract. And I don't I
don't see that changing.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, that's a good point. And I think generally Barkley
and Henry as great of a story as they were,
I think that they're more outliers, yeah than anything else
in his credit to them. Boy, I'll tell you why.
First thing this morning, everybody in the NFL was absolutely
freaking out because the first report of what happened with
(38:00):
the Jets was Justin Fields card it off the field,
non contact injury, in practice. And when those first details emerge,
oh my gosh, here we go. Gets Yeah, well exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I'll only tell you this again. I'm gonna state this
because I know it's true. The perfect example of why
the Jets are covered more than they deserve to be
is what happened this morning. So it happens. Mike Greenberg's
on his show and he's like, I can't even talk.
I'm so like broken up over this thing. Like it's
because of the Jets and because the Syracuse mafia. All
(38:39):
these dudes that grew up on Long Island are working
in sports and they care about and look, I don't
want anything bad to happen to Justin Fields. But let's
not act like he's any good. It's his third team
in three years for a reason. He hurt his big toe,
his sergeant Holka.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
But the it's the reference finally makes sense. Now, I
was like, I was just gonna ask, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You're big toe?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I haven't ever been stripe sergeant. Okay, yeah, stripes.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, you've never seen stripes.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I've never seen stripes. Look blame my wife about this,
because she's the one who introduces me.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa me Alco, Sam, how long have
you been with your wife?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well, we've been married for eleven years?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So what about team?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
What about before that.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Gay guiltiest charge? She's the one who took me to
see Star Wars and The Godfather for the first time.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The class I guess.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, stripes is not Star Wars and the Godfather, but.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
All right.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Harold Ramis is really iconic. John Candy, I'm I'm Canady
enormous fans of John Candy and Harold Ramis.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But what about Bill? What about Bill Murray?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Bill Murray is what kind of training?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Army training? Sir? Me trading? Sir Nothing, that's a fact, Jack,
that's a fact, Jack nothing.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
No, I mean, I'm sure I've caught scenes in passing
here or there. But I've never seen.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Even though I've seen stripes.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
All right, what but I didn't know I didn't know
Sergeant Hulka until just then, so hotel.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
So so we start tell we started, Hey, Isaac lighting
up Francis.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Lighting up Francis, and he all so that's where that
came from. Okay, I've heard the lighting up Francis.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
So we all have a lot of drops. Hold I'm
not done yet. Go ahead, I'll get dump it on
the chamber. Hold on, here, I have lighting up Francis classic.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Okay, all timeline right there, All timeline, that's the fact.
That's the fact check.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Who we gave Isaac an assignment? All right?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Where it all came from? Yeah, so how about this
for full circle? We opened the show talking about Hulk,
We ended the show talking about Hulk, and that's the
edition of the press. Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well, look, I actually think and and I don't actually
care if you think I sound insensitive over a guy
who accomplished a lot, made a lot of money, passing
away at the age of seventy one. Because again, just
like we found out at some point in time that
the wrestling wasn't wrestling. We found out that, I mean,
(41:46):
I don't know, dude, that the audio tape. That's enough
for me. I'm good. I'm not going to canonize the
dude who uses who says, who says that word so
easily and admits to being a bit of a racist,
a bit things. But again, part of that is what
our childhood was like, which is maybe why now we
don't believe anything. I think I nailed something at the end.
(42:08):
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