February 11, 2025 • 39 mins
During a special Tuesday Morning Quarterback feature, Dan and the crew go over all of the leftovers from the Super Bowl. Dan gives out his "Beyer's Remorse". Dan welcomes LA Times NBA writer Dan Woike to talk about the new-look Lakers, Luka and all of the major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Dan takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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way tire buying should be. Look, I know there's a
way in which you usually do this show. We got
buyers Remorse upcoming, But I thought this was kind of
a cool idea that the guys came up with. I
did not, So I'm not gonna take I'm not gonna
(00:43):
take credit for something I didn't come up. Well, sometimes
I will, but not today. I want will not everybody
does the Monday Morning quarterbacking on the You know, you know,
if if Pat Mahomes wouldn't throw that interception, then yeah
it's Monday Money Quarterback. We're gonna Donesday morning quarterback. Do
you guys are okay with that? It's the day after
(01:03):
the day after. So here's the first question, Dan, I'll
throw a QUI a couple of questions out to you guys.
We'll kind of discuss, right, all right, what now for
the Chiefs? And I say what now? Because teams that
lose the Super Bowl generally, and the Patriots are usually
the exception, and the Chiefs have been the exception usually
(01:27):
primed for a hangover. Does that happen with the chief
standbyre yes?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I think it does.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think that the last time when they lost
and made it back to the AFC Championship Game was
more of the anomaly than what is about to happen.
I think the team is going to start to take
on a different look. I know Mark Dominic was on
yesterday and said that he felt that it was an
easy fix in Kansas City, and I don't know if
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that's exactly the case. I just think that they're the
other teams. If it's not the Bills and Ravens are
going to be knocking on the door. I think the
Chargers will be better. I don't know what's going to happen.
With the Bengals. I expect the Texans to be better
than what they were this past year. I think there's
gonna be some competition, and just the the hangover of
getting that far and not winning, I think I think
(02:18):
takes its toll well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I also you're forgetting the other part. You know,
Travis Kelcey's over the hill.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, yep, you know he's.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Over the hill. And and you can you can get
away with it a little bit as a pass catcher
for a long time. You know Antonio Gates now in
the Hall of Fame, right, Remember he came out of
retirement and he was still able to catch balls. But
what happens is when you're not a good blocker and
then you get older. Now it's like, one, it's just
like older quarterbacks, they don't want to get hit. And
(02:48):
then two, yeah, you can't move it all like you
can you can run down there and find the hole
in the zone, or you're just big enough to post
a guy up. But I think I agree with you.
I do think it does to mean it's over, but
it's definitely gonna be time for a refrash.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, and Doug just even take all that away, just
the amount of success that they have had. It's been
AFC Championship game after AFC Championship game, and some of
the times they've gone on to the Super Bowl. Other
times they haven't lost to the Patriots. Mentioned the loss
to the to the Bengals. But it's gone on all
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the way dating back to the Super Bowl fifty three season.
That's where we were with this. So this is this
has gone on a while, and I think just anything,
if you would look at any stretch of games, that
at some point these good things have to come to
an end. And I think that there's just so many
things primed for it to come to an end. After
Sunday's loss, you and.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I are actually in agreement there. And the other part
is it's like Denver looks stable. I don't know if
they're great yet, you know, but they look stable. The
Chargers are coming right. Like you can have all these
idiots on social media and some in the media say
Justin Herbert isn't this is and that he may not be.
That was not a great roster. That was in the
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first year of them fixing and adjusting the roster, and
they were competitive with just about everybody. And now when
you get a year to get that roster kind of
more dialed in. My guess is the Chargers are coming.
I think the Patriots are going to be better. They
couldn't be worse. The Bills are right there, the Ravens
are right there, and you know, Steelers continue to be
(04:26):
a quarterback away. And I agree with you at the Bengals,
like what Joe Burrow says, if he says it on TV, Hey,
I'm willing to take less money to keep those guys.
They're going to take them up on that offer. The
Bengals have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, They're they're going
to be competitive, and they couldn't have had a they
couldn't have a worse defense moving forward, right, So I'm
(04:47):
with you. Okay, how about this one? What path does
Nick Sirianni take? Does he do the humble thing now
or does he continue to start up and be smug
and do the Philadelphia at me against the world thing?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh it's I don't know if this just popped into
my head, but it's like the first time and you
buy a suit, like you gotta be the same person
in that suit that you always were prior to buying it.
Or you buying the suit to be the person that
wears the suit. And I think that's what comes along
(05:26):
with the Lombardi Trophy is now you've got the Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Trophy, so you have the suit.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And if I think he has to, I think it
would be I would think he would look ten times
worse Doug if he continued with the Shenanigans as a
super Bowl winning head coach. I think he has to
shape up his act, not be as cocky.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
If you will, arrogant, those sort of things.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think he's got to clean up his act and
tone it down now that he's a super Bowl, super
Bowl winning head coach.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know he went god. He went God squad in
a postgame interview, right do you guys see that he
went to God squad? And that's usually the signal of like, okay,
now I'm gonna be humble. Now I'm going to throw
religion out there. That one's okay. Why was Mahomes still
in the game late? And I guess that if you
(06:23):
look on social media's was betting the reason he was
in the game.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Light I think that I think for sure they wanted
to get you mentioned Travis Kelce earlier.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think for sure they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Get him the all time Super Bowl receptions record, which
he did pass Jerry Rice for I think that was
that was a goal of the Chiefs in that game,
which I think then leads actually to the first question
of maybe the Chiefs know that they're not going to
be making it back every year after this, that let's
(06:56):
get this now, or to your point, Travis kelce is
done and there may not be another opportunity for him
to play in a Super Bowl. I think that was
one of the reasons. I don't know why he was
in with three minutes left, but when he took that
hit on his arm with nine minutes left, I would
have pulled him at that point.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And then the next.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Possession they got two passes to Travis kelcey and he
passes Jerry Rice for the all time mark.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I didn't think of it that way. I didn't think
of it that way.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That hit, by the way to the was was it
Carter that got him in the face mask? Two hands
to the face mask after the attempted bomb was swatted
away one of the I think maybe if you want
to take one image from that game, like how bad
were the Chiefs. What was this game like? Just look
(07:44):
at that five seconds of video him getting two handed
in the face after getting stripped on a pass.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It was amazing in the face.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
In the face. Yeah, okay, here's one. This is going
to be more for Dan. Do you see that record?
One hundred and twenty six minin people watched the Super Bowl,
and I think we would all agree the product, at
least in the Super Bowl was not good, and yet
more people watch than ever Dan commercials.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Officially, the zuupa Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Lamar maybe to be if they were watching the right
super Bowl as opposed to that one family on TikTok.
But I'm I'm surprised in the the essence of how
nobody seemed excited for this game heading into it, and
for it to still break records is surprising that people
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still will find a way to get together and party
and watch this game. It peaked in the second quarter
I saw, which is not surprising because that's when the
game actually ended.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yes, it was. I I was ready to go right
after for the halftime show, completely ready to go. I
was done.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I can tell you this. Chiefs fans didn't leave. They
did stick around. They stuck around and they were there
in the fourth quarter, but there was nobody. It's also
I think the essence of when you're at a super Bowl,
you're like, well, I'm not gonna leave early. I just
paid X amount for this, and this may be the
only time I'm at a super Bowl. I'm not gonna
leave in the third quarter because my team lost. A
lot of the Chiefs fans ended up staying, which I
(09:25):
thought was a tip of the cap.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yep. I just think like it's so much beyond
a football game, it doesn't even matter anymore. It's like,
we make a huge deal about Brady and people like
we love names. That's who we are as the people.
And when I say we, I don't mean sports fans,
(09:48):
I mean mainstream fans. And so we can crush Tom
Brady for he's not very good in his first year
doing broadcasting, but it's still Tom Brady and he looks
like a male model. And you can crush Kendrick Lamar
for being way too much to some artistic rap halftime show.
(10:10):
But again, I honestly think his Humble album was great.
I don't think most of the people who tuned in
to watch Kemi trick Lamar had any idea about some
of the previous songs, which were really popular songs. I
think it was more the they not like us like
that was literally an anthem for everyone last summer and
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carried on in and was the Song of the Year
and the Album of the Year at the Grammys. Right,
we love names, and the NFL is a name brand
now and they're smart enough to put Taylor Taylor Swifts
at the game. That's big. I don't care what anybody says.
Kendrick Lamar is a huge name. Tom Brady's a huge name.
Pat Mahomes is a huge name. And the Eagles in
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the sports world have their own draw because they're that
team that everybody hates and everybody hates their fans. All Right,
that's it for a little Tuesday morning quarterback. Do you
don't have the right go.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Ahead final thought on that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So if I'm if I'm reading this right based on
the website, I'm on Sports media Watch. So the ratings
have gone up incrementally since twenty seventeen. How do we
account for that, because you know, the the population of
the country, the the amount of TVs and homes haven't
(11:27):
gone up. How do we account for an increase in
ratings each year, and Dan and I we had that
discussion yesterday about the quality of play, and it doesn't
make a whole lot of sense to me. But how
do we account for that? What does the what do
you think the difference has been each and every year?
(11:54):
The increase in popularity.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Increase, the increase of access to betting is probably part
of it. Increase some popularity, and it's just become a
thing like a national holiday, I think of the.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Let's always been both of those things, though, I'm just wondering,
why is it bigger than ever?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What did you say was since when? Since twenty what
are the last seven Super Bowls?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
What was the number? What? What did you say the
twenty seventeen seventeen Let's just take let's just take the
last three years. It's continued to go up.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it's fair to take the last three years
because I think that there still was this COVID thing
going on, but for some reason, the numbers still ended
uh ended up going up in COVID.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
During COVID it was one hundred and one million, and
then the next year one twelve, then one fifteen, and
then last year one twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's crazy that how low it was during COVID, Like,
what else did you have going on? Right?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sick relatives, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But even if you're sick, you're like got a TV
on by the bed side. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, and you would think that there would be more
viewers because people weren't getting together to watch, so there'd
be no TV units.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, more TV's. It gets a good call. That's a
good call.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I think that the the reason for the uptick is
maybe fomo where you may not be interested in it,
but you sure don't want to miss it, Like who
doesn't watch it? So you're gonna watch it. There's different
ways to consume it. I saw people getting together friend
of mine on Facebook. They had like a neighborhood block party,
(13:32):
so they set out, you know, set up a TV
outside and kids are riding around their bikes. Live in
California where it was still light out when the game
was going on, but doing those sorts of things. I
think it's the fear of missing out, in not wanting
to miss out, whether it be a commercial halftime show
or the actual game.
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It's all Dan Day. That's what it is. Everyone has
things they would like to take back, but few are
(14:25):
able to air it on the radio. That's why Dan
has his own buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I engage, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
First of all, a tip of the cap to Doug Gottlieb,
who travels.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
More than anybody that I know and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Still is able to show up at work because I
flew in this morning. Guys from New Orleans came to
work at LAX. Tell you what, I'm dragging a bit today.
So kudos to you, Doug, for all of the hundreds
of times that you've phown here, there and everywhere and
have popped on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't do it too much.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Maybe there's some scar tissue that makes you tough en
up through those experiences.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But man, so do you know where I am today?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Okay, I'm in OsO, Oklahoma. I'm in the coach's office
of my teammate and dear friend, Brian Montinatti. They're defending
state champions and right number one in Oklahoma just popped in.
Do the show here that I'm on my way to Independence,
Kansas the Jayhawk Conference. If you know junior college basketball,
(15:43):
I'm gonna go recruit. Cowley County plays Indy Independence tonight
seven point thirty and gonna go watch some do some recruiting,
because as much as you can watch a ton on
Synergy and other videos, nothing like seeing a kid play
in person. So I'm going to pop into one junior
college on the way up to see two junior colleges
(16:05):
play and do some recruiting, and then out at five
poin fifteen in the morning. Uh land in Chicago super early,
like at seven fifteen, Get up to the Bay. Then
we'll have the show tomorrow and then we have afternoon
practice tomorrow afternoon in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, we'll get to mine you're dead. What's
that sleep when you're dead?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Sleep when you're dead. I woke up early this morning
and I had buyer's remorse. I regretted my decision during
our time in New Orleans to not have a beignette,
a beignette, to beignet. How do we say it beignet beignet?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Is that it begnette begnette? Yeah, didn't have one. I
did not have one.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I didn't either, and people keep asking me why I didn't.
I this morning delicious.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm like going around the airport and it's like five
o'clock in New Orleans, and I'm like this, maybe someone's
got to be open. And I smelled what I thought
was fried dough and it was Auntie Annie's pretzels warming
up for the day.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was like, even if it was an airport one
I could say that I did. And I just regret
that I did not take advantage of that New Orleans
fair considering I'm not a gumba or a crawfish or
any of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Abigne is amazing, And you know what, You're right, I
have remorse ight into the same thing. And you know,
I mean I can't tell him. Peoplere like, Hey, you're
gonna stop a Cafe Dumont and have some coffee.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
In a pignet, chickery coffee.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh, the chickery coffee is so good?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What is what is chickery? Is it like bark? What
is it?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Delicious? You can there's actually a place like there's a
chain it's called blue something in that's in California that
you can get the it's called the Nola Coffee.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I did get a can of that for my wife.
She doesn't know it, but that's her gifts coming back
from New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
At least this texted me way to give up, way
to give the secret.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's a blue bottle coffee, blue bottle, and you get
the roasted chickory kit Yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You need to do blue bottle? Just go get the Nola.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh that's good stuff, that's stuff. But I regret that
I did not have a beignet.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I regret that I ordered the hamahawk that night at
the restaurant we we went to had Koshan. It's not
that I don't like hamhock. I like hamhocks and my migraines.
It's just it was all wild fair and there are
so many things. And Dan ordered this piece of fish
that looked beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Wow, Dan, you had fish. Yes, it's quite exciting. No,
I do like fish.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
There's certain certain kinds that I like.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you like that fish?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yes, it's very good. I ate the whole thing. Yes,
it was delicious. Did you guys have a muffa letta?
It's like a type of sandwich that are very own.
Chris Purfette kept talking about all Super Bowl week, you
know home, No you ca get those muffletta.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Store at Kashan Butcher. But no way to that. I
mean I was on the ground, like literally, I was
on the ground. I said, forty hours. Somebody else can
do the map. I landed at eleven thirty on Tuesday
night and my flight took off at five thirty on
Thursday afternoon, So.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A lot of time for tourism.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I do not that we're giving a not that we're
giving an ad, but I do have to say Jason
and I went and had a you know, some roots
Chris Steak and people say, why do you go to
a chain?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It did good?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah it is, it's magnificent. And it did start in Louisiana.
Oh so I didn't know that, yeah in New Orleans,
so that is so I didn't feel as guilty about
doing that, And then I didn't feel as guilty going
back last night by myself and just having one for
the road.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was delica.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, absolutely for you, I'll do the steak thing. So
my dear friends own a company called Malot Meats. They
supply all the meats for the the high end restaurants
in the Midwest. And I think I told you I
love this kind of me called hanger steaks. Yeah, the
hanger cut hanger is delicious. Anyway, Scott Perry brought it
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by my house like a big box of them. So
when I got back, like I will sometimes make a
steak for like breakfast or lunch, I just will, so
I actually get the one for the road thing, like,
if you could have a steak, why wouldn't you have
a steak.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I also felt I was going to be up early
so i'd still be hungry, or if at least I
let's have a good meal at night so I'm not
as hungry when I woke up and nothing was open
at the airport, and by goodness I was correct. Was
still pretty full when I woke up in the morning.
But I regret nobgners. But I do have a kit
(20:52):
that my wife's going to have to try to make some.
She got that in the coffee, So if I we
make any at home, I'll bring them along.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Any other buyers Morse, Nope, that's it, Doug.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Just all food food based Fyers Remorse.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, just one big one. I think it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's fine. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports for Radio, coming
to you from the tyreck dot Com studios, and let's
talk to NBA hoop shaw We after Luca's debut. Plus
of course you have Anthony Davis playing an incredible half
and then stop, you've heard this before. Anthony Davis is hurt,
a guy who many covers this league and knows that
like the back of his hands. Dan Wikie, he's kind
(21:27):
of spent some time with this year. On the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Dan, First, where were you? Where were you
when you heard about the trade?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I was in the press room at Madison Square Garden,
sitting down to craft a story about what I thought
was maybe the best Lakers winning the season, about a
team that seemed like it had really kind of like
really just started to believe in itself as like a
one to five contender. And uh yeah, I mean I
(21:56):
think like everybody, I saw Shams's tweet and immediately got
or calling people on this because, you know, Doug, it's
funny like how this works. A couple of days earlier.
And I say this not to pretend like I knew
the Traders happened, because I didn't. But I had heard
that the Lakers were working on something with the Dallas Mavericks,
and I had heard it from a team that would
have been a third team to help facilitate the deal,
(22:19):
and even that team didn't know what was happening. And
I was spitballing with this executive like, you know, could
it be for Klay Thompson. Well, it wouldn't be for
Daniel Gafford, would it, because you know, Derek Lively's hurt
and nowhere. I mean, I even got to maybe it's
Kyrie again. Like I'd never once considered Lukadavic. I don't
(22:39):
think anyone around the league considered Lukadavic. And it was
kind of a pretty bizarre experience to be walking through
the hallways of an empty Madison Square garden, while my
other kind of fellow Laker Bee writers are all just
on the phone, just yelling at her sources, basically all
skimming what Dallas just happened.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, So once they found out, like, what is the
chatter with didn't wake you join us? By the way
covers the NBA for the LA Times, What is that
shatter between all of the inside because that's I think
that there's a bunch of different pastating levels to the trade.
But the fact that no one had it right, no
one had it yeah, is amazing. What's the chatter been?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Like? You know, it's been kind of you know, there's
been some sort of unwinding trying to figure out who
knew what and when right? And I think I mean,
there were some people like you know, JJ Redick learned
on Saturday of the of the possibility of the deal
earlier in the day. You know, there were PR staffers
and stuff who were aware that this was a we'll
(23:40):
say a strong possibility, so they were kind of on guard,
but like nothing like within you know, I mean, nobody
had like six hours notice on this right, like it
was this was all very need to know and really
the people that seem mostly the need to know like
kind of the core for the negotiations, right, you know,
the demand Yadelson family, and you know Jimmy Buss, Nico
(24:06):
Harrison and Rob Bolinka and and I think I mean
the agents, you know, particularly Clutch Forts is not involved
at all in this, which was fascinating. It was a
fascinating sort of shift. And I think this was this
was GMS and ownership kind of reshaping their teams. The
Lakers coming out of this reshaping their future and Dallas
(24:27):
making you know, a pretty sizable best against Luka Dancic
and for their future, and you know they've had just
sort of a dreadful week because of it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, Okay, so let's get to the Lakers. I think
I think a lot of people have made a lot
of statements about what it means for the Lakers. Right.
The first thing is like outside looking in, like Rob
Polink is good for five years, Right, there's no you
can't get rid of the guy who got got Lukadancik.
(24:59):
Whether or not it works out, it doesn't matter. But
what does it mean for the Lakers short term? What
does it mean for the Lakers? Uh? Slightly longer term?
So this year and then the next couple.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, I think let's start with this year, Doug. I think,
you know, this was a team that, you know, the
Lakers don't really do anything quietly, right, but like they've
been playing awesome basketball for a few weeks now before this, right,
a team that had sort of turned its season around defensively,
a team that you know was finding sort of like
(25:33):
it's belief in the overall systems. They were getting healthy,
and you know, it started to put together some pretty
nice wins. You know, they had just beaten the Boston Celtics.
They had won, to know, I guessaid in New York City,
you know, trending pretty well. And I think, like you know,
being around the team and talking to players, there was
a sense that, like, you know, maybe they had a chance.
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Like I think everybody knew like a lot would have
to break their way, but maybe there was a chance.
And then I think, you know, there was an immediacy
of the deal, like some real kind of morning about that,
you know, because all of that stuff and all the
problem solving and everything like that they had worked towards
was out the window. That lasted for a few days.
Then they beat the Clippers, and they come back and
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again shorthanded perform well and play with that same sort
of intensity. And now all of a sudden, it's like, well, like,
what's our ceiling if we have Luka Doncic, Like how
good can we be? Right? Like, this guy just went
to the NBA Finals on a roster that we think
is worse than the one we have now, Like, you know,
you didn't have Lebron James as a teammate, he didn't
have Austin Reeves, Like, like, you know, how.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Good can we be?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
And I think that's been the short term has been
like you know, this team has a real chance. Now.
The more interesting thing, Doug, I think is that for
the first time in twenty plus years of basketball being
played anywhere on this planet, a decision was made not
with Lebron James first and foremost out of Lebron James team,
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Like this was about the next seven years. This is
about life with the Lakers post Lebron James. This was
about skipping all the painful steps that were assured to them,
you know, just to just once he goes away, right,
like I'm not having draft picks, you know, having to
rebuild that way in an era where free agency isn't
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quite the you know the green fields, the lush green
fields that it's been in the past. Uh, it was
going to be ugly and it was gonna be rough
and in like a blank you know, they're good like
they're in. They're in a tremendous position.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So now you think, you think they're better now than
they were with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I think they have a better chance to win now,
you know, I think their ceiling is higher. There's going
to be real, real defensive concerns. There are things that
they're absolutely worse at today without Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis
was having a of it season. You know, it's gonna
be an All Star heavy stayed healthy, would have been
an All NBA player, like no doubt, right. And I
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think Dallas, by the way too, in the short term,
like it solved like some real short term needs for
that team.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's just Doug.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Playoff basketball is different in a way that like you know,
while like positional size matters, while like having dominant defensive
bigs matters, like give me a shot maker, like just
like an all time tough shot maker.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Sure, and the.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Lakers had one of Lebron James. Now they have two
one of them, you know what I mean, And it
just opens up so much more for Lebron. They're going
to go into playoff series, Doug, where you know they're
going to have, if not the two best players on
the court, certainly two of the best three, and virtually
any matchup like like picket right, and they'll have two
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of the best three players on the court. And that's
a pretty good position to start at in any playoff series.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Dan Waikee joining us here on the Doug Ottlieb Show
on Fox Sports for Okay, let's go to Dallas, Cuz
whatever are they thought the reaction would be. I don't
think they thought the reaction would be this negative. That said,
I did find it ironic that that the reason supposed
that they wanted to move off of Luca was personal
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habits and keeping himself in shape and his injuries. Like, look,
Anthony Davis had had a great year last year of
not getting hurt and taking care of his body. But
that was the mL of Anthony Davis, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, it's you know, it was just really shortsighted. You
know that That to me is I think the biggest
takeaway from all of this and being around teams and
especially being around teams that like are really really good
but you're not quite sure if they ever can get
to great. It's taxing. It's just really taxing, and you
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start to examine yourself in ways that's like really uncomfortable,
and you start having conversations of like are we really
good enough? Is this really worth it? What can we
do now? And you know, I don't want to pretend
to know what everything that was happening inside that Neverige
front office and inside ownership there right, Like it seems
like it's a combination of all the recruiting that's come out, right,
Like there are money issues at play, there are conditioning
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issues that play. You know, there's this looming or was
this looming sort of you know, the richest contract in
NBA history for a player who you know their fearing
is going to increasingly have soft tissungers like, oh, that
stuff is fine and good. I think they misunderstood a
misread sort of like the cultural impact in that city
that you know, like homegrown stars have, you know, like
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the Dirk Similarly, like I just had the bridge from
Lebron just like what's coming next for the Lakers like
the Mavericks didn't have to go through that either, because
they went from Dirk to Lucas you know. And I
have friends from Dallas. I have friends with Dallas who
don't even like watch the maverage on a regular basis,
who are like totally incensed by this, who like cannot
wrap their heads around this in a real way, and
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you know who say things like even if we won
a title year, it wouldn't be with it. And I
think it's just a misreading of sort of the emotional
ties that a player can have to a city when
it's like a special relationship when you see that player,
especially you know, a four more player from the age
of eighteen, Like they just mean a lot to that,
to those kinds of markets. And yeah, it's I mean,
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I don't want to say it's a whiff, right, Like
we don't know what's going to happen with Lukea's body.
We don't know if Anthony Davis is back in four
weeks and is you know, wreck and Chop again like
he was in the first half before the trick. We
don't know any of that stuff. It just like when
you hear things like even if they win a title,
it's not gonna be worth it, Like, and I've heard
that from agents and stuff like that. You just kind
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of sepect to be like, why did this happen?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Crazy? It's a crazy statement. Yeah, crazy statement. Dan. Awesome job, man,
love having you on. Thanks so much for joining us.
We'll talk soon, Okay, Thanks Doug.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Something good.
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to the press.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
The press, Dan, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The big news of the day of the National Football
League is news that we felt was there about two
weeks ago, Kellen Moore officially named the head coach of
the New Orleans Saints. Now all vacancies in the NFL
for the head coaching jobs have been filled, and there
are reports that Brandon State could be going to New
Orleans to serve as Moore's defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Last former Cowboys offensive coordator be the head coach of
the Saints with Sean Payton. That went okay, So we'll
see how this one goes well.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
It's also a very dark reminder for Charger fans the
last time Brandon Staley and Kellen Moore were together, it
was the most disappointing season of our lifetimes. Because remember
Justin Herbert was in a rookie is still had his
rookie contract. Figure, we had a bunch of really good
players on the team. The Chargers decided to bring back
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dainst Brandon Staley, and of course Kellen Moore was along
for the ride. The most disappointing season in my lifetime
for the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Thanks for bringing up good memories.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I'm gonna bring up a conspiracy theory, Doug Okay, So
Cliff Kingsbury among.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Others, turn it down.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yes, not interested in this job. So why does Kellen
Moore take it? The Saints, who I thought were going
to be the worst team in the NFL this past season,
I think very well could be the worst team in
the NFL next season. They just they are in salary
cap hell, they've got they've they still haven't hit rock
bottom yet.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But that may be good news for Saints fans.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Get a coach in there, an offensive coach that you
like that will be there for the long haul. Twenty
twenty five is a ditch year because you've got to
clean out everything as well.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And there's a chance, there is a chance, I would
I wouldn't say a great chance, but I think a
decent chance that the Saints could have the opportunity to
pick arch Manning number one overall in next year's NFL draft.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I love it. That's really good. That's really good.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Then you got your offensive coach there with your young quarterback,
full circle from Archie Manning, the whole Manning klan. I
think that that would be I think that would be
ideal for the New Orleans Saints. Throw away twenty And
if the Saints are bad, then arch has got a
decision to make of entering the NFL Draft, and if
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they're picking number one, he doesn't have to pull an
ELI and ask to go somewhere else. He'll go to
New Orleans. And if they're not picking number one, he
could just stay in school another year. So good my theory.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's a really good.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Story, Sam, that's some of your best work right there.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That franchise needs something exciting. Since Drew Brees retired, it
has been slim pickens.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
We now have more information on why the fan was
ejected from last night's game against the for the Dallas
Mavericks against the Sacramento Kings violation of the NBA's Code
of Conduct. The Mavericks actually released a statement saying that
the guests were ejected because in the first incident, the
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guests brought in a sign that broke the following rule
included in the Code of conduct. That is, clothing, garments,
or signs displaying explicit language, profanity, or derogatory characterization towards
any person. So fire Nico was the derogatory phrase not
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supposed to be used by the fan. Another one of
the two guys was seen with the mouthing fire Nico
on the jumbo tron when they panned to him on
the video screens, which would be funny if you saw
them with the fire Nico signs. Why would you put
him on camera in the first place?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But not sure they did.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
They did, don't you think it's really it's bad optics.
I just let the fans have their say. Like literally,
throwing that guy out of the game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Creates it bigger, makes a bigger deal of it.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Negative attention now.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Makes it a bigger deal, makes a bigger deal. Although
I'll say this. You liked how I got my guy
to stop chanting about my daughter right at the Cleveland
State game. Do you guys remember that?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah? How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We're first half A guy was asking where Harper is?
Oh yeah, and I want to meet Harper and all
these things about Harper. And so I walked over to
him right before the start of the half and I said, hey, buddy,
you say it again, I'm gonna have you escorted out
of the arena. She's eighteen years old. That's how it bounds.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Hey, you sound like a creep.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but instead of making a big show
of it, yeah and whatever, Just I mean, I actually
liked the Westbrook thing. Where he's done that a couple
of times. Just go you you goodbye, take them out.
It's your right as an athlete and as a coach
you can do it. And so that's all Dallas should
have done. And just pull the guy aside him and
somebody wants to see you outside.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
They're taking your sign, sir, take away. You're signed now.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You don't have to word about the sign. Just hey,
take him out, Hey, come come with us. We want
to take you up to meet somebody.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
You gotta be careful, though, Doug, because if someone say,
in your next game, someone has a sign that says
Harper's bizarre, and then you have a conversation with him,
he could just be selling magazines at the game.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You love that alliteration? Do you love that alliteration?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I love magazines?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Harper's.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Last time that was in print was the last time.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
When have you ever picked up a Harper's Bazaar.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's like what our grandmother's read.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I'm sure we probably read it A doctor's officer to
that National.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Diagram and Highlights magazine.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, Highlights magazine. That's the press us back.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yes, sorry, Dan, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Are we okay with that? Jay still okay, we're okay.
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take credit for something I didn't come up. Well, sometimes
I will, but not today. I want will not everybody
does the Monday Morning quarterbacking on the You know, you know,
if if Pat Mahomes wouldn't throw that interception, then yeah
it's Monday Money Quarterback. We're gonna Donesday morning quarterback. Do
you guys are okay with that? It's the day after
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the day after. So here's the first question, Dan, I'll
throw a QUI a couple of questions out to you guys.
We'll kind of discuss, right, all right, what now for
the Chiefs? And I say what now? Because teams that
lose the Super Bowl generally, and the Patriots are usually
the exception, and the Chiefs have been the exception usually
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primed for a hangover. Does that happen with the chief
standbyre yes?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I think it does.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think that the last time when they lost
and made it back to the AFC Championship Game was
more of the anomaly than what is about to happen.
I think the team is going to start to take
on a different look. I know Mark Dominic was on
yesterday and said that he felt that it was an
easy fix in Kansas City, and I don't know if
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that's exactly the case. I just think that they're the
other teams. If it's not the Bills and Ravens are
going to be knocking on the door. I think the
Chargers will be better. I don't know what's going to happen.
With the Bengals. I expect the Texans to be better
than what they were this past year. I think there's
gonna be some competition, and just the the hangover of
getting that far and not winning, I think I think
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takes its toll well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I also you're forgetting the other part. You know,
Travis Kelcey's over the hill.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, yep, you know he's.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Over the hill. And and you can you can get
away with it a little bit as a pass catcher
for a long time. You know Antonio Gates now in
the Hall of Fame, right, Remember he came out of
retirement and he was still able to catch balls. But
what happens is when you're not a good blocker and
then you get older. Now it's like, one, it's just
like older quarterbacks, they don't want to get hit. And
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then two, yeah, you can't move it all like you
can you can run down there and find the hole
in the zone, or you're just big enough to post
a guy up. But I think I agree with you.
I do think it does to mean it's over, but
it's definitely gonna be time for a refrash.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, and Doug just even take all that away, just
the amount of success that they have had. It's been
AFC Championship game after AFC Championship game, and some of
the times they've gone on to the Super Bowl. Other
times they haven't lost to the Patriots. Mentioned the loss
to the to the Bengals. But it's gone on all
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the way dating back to the Super Bowl fifty three season.
That's where we were with this. So this is this
has gone on a while, and I think just anything,
if you would look at any stretch of games, that
at some point these good things have to come to
an end. And I think that there's just so many
things primed for it to come to an end. After
Sunday's loss, you and.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I are actually in agreement there. And the other part
is it's like Denver looks stable. I don't know if
they're great yet, you know, but they look stable. The
Chargers are coming right. Like you can have all these
idiots on social media and some in the media say
Justin Herbert isn't this is and that he may not be.
That was not a great roster. That was in the
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first year of them fixing and adjusting the roster, and
they were competitive with just about everybody. And now when
you get a year to get that roster kind of
more dialed in. My guess is the Chargers are coming.
I think the Patriots are going to be better. They
couldn't be worse. The Bills are right there, the Ravens
are right there, and you know, Steelers continue to be
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a quarterback away. And I agree with you at the Bengals,
like what Joe Burrow says, if he says it on TV, Hey,
I'm willing to take less money to keep those guys.
They're going to take them up on that offer. The
Bengals have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, They're they're going
to be competitive, and they couldn't have had a they
couldn't have a worse defense moving forward, right, So I'm
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with you. Okay, how about this one? What path does
Nick Sirianni take? Does he do the humble thing now
or does he continue to start up and be smug
and do the Philadelphia at me against the world thing?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh it's I don't know if this just popped into
my head, but it's like the first time and you
buy a suit, like you gotta be the same person
in that suit that you always were prior to buying it.
Or you buying the suit to be the person that
wears the suit. And I think that's what comes along
(05:26):
with the Lombardi Trophy is now you've got the Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Trophy, so you have the suit.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And if I think he has to, I think it
would be I would think he would look ten times
worse Doug if he continued with the Shenanigans as a
super Bowl winning head coach. I think he has to
shape up his act, not be as cocky.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
If you will, arrogant, those sort of things.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think he's got to clean up his act and
tone it down now that he's a super Bowl, super
Bowl winning head coach.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know he went god. He went God squad in
a postgame interview, right do you guys see that he
went to God squad? And that's usually the signal of like, okay,
now I'm gonna be humble. Now I'm going to throw
religion out there. That one's okay. Why was Mahomes still
in the game late? And I guess that if you
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look on social media's was betting the reason he was
in the game.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Light I think that I think for sure they wanted
to get you mentioned Travis Kelce earlier.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think for sure they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Get him the all time Super Bowl receptions record, which
he did pass Jerry Rice for I think that was
that was a goal of the Chiefs in that game,
which I think then leads actually to the first question
of maybe the Chiefs know that they're not going to
be making it back every year after this, that let's
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get this now, or to your point, Travis kelce is
done and there may not be another opportunity for him
to play in a Super Bowl. I think that was
one of the reasons. I don't know why he was
in with three minutes left, but when he took that
hit on his arm with nine minutes left, I would
have pulled him at that point.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And then the next.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Possession they got two passes to Travis kelcey and he
passes Jerry Rice for the all time mark.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I didn't think of it that way. I didn't think
of it that way.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That hit, by the way to the was was it
Carter that got him in the face mask? Two hands
to the face mask after the attempted bomb was swatted
away one of the I think maybe if you want
to take one image from that game, like how bad
were the Chiefs. What was this game like? Just look
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at that five seconds of video him getting two handed
in the face after getting stripped on a pass.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It was amazing in the face.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
In the face. Yeah, okay, here's one. This is going
to be more for Dan. Do you see that record?
One hundred and twenty six minin people watched the Super Bowl,
and I think we would all agree the product, at
least in the Super Bowl was not good, and yet
more people watch than ever Dan commercials.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Officially, the zuupa Kendrick.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Lamar maybe to be if they were watching the right
super Bowl as opposed to that one family on TikTok.
But I'm I'm surprised in the the essence of how
nobody seemed excited for this game heading into it, and
for it to still break records is surprising that people
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still will find a way to get together and party
and watch this game. It peaked in the second quarter
I saw, which is not surprising because that's when the
game actually ended.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yes, it was. I I was ready to go right
after for the halftime show, completely ready to go. I
was done.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I can tell you this. Chiefs fans didn't leave. They
did stick around. They stuck around and they were there
in the fourth quarter, but there was nobody. It's also
I think the essence of when you're at a super Bowl,
you're like, well, I'm not gonna leave early. I just
paid X amount for this, and this may be the
only time I'm at a super Bowl. I'm not gonna
leave in the third quarter because my team lost. A
lot of the Chiefs fans ended up staying, which I
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thought was a tip of the cap.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yep. I just think like it's so much beyond
a football game, it doesn't even matter anymore. It's like,
we make a huge deal about Brady and people like
we love names. That's who we are as the people.
And when I say we, I don't mean sports fans,
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I mean mainstream fans. And so we can crush Tom
Brady for he's not very good in his first year
doing broadcasting, but it's still Tom Brady and he looks
like a male model. And you can crush Kendrick Lamar
for being way too much to some artistic rap halftime show.
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But again, I honestly think his Humble album was great.
I don't think most of the people who tuned in
to watch Kemi trick Lamar had any idea about some
of the previous songs, which were really popular songs. I
think it was more the they not like us like
that was literally an anthem for everyone last summer and
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carried on in and was the Song of the Year
and the Album of the Year at the Grammys. Right,
we love names, and the NFL is a name brand
now and they're smart enough to put Taylor Taylor Swifts
at the game. That's big. I don't care what anybody says.
Kendrick Lamar is a huge name. Tom Brady's a huge name.
Pat Mahomes is a huge name. And the Eagles in
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the sports world have their own draw because they're that
team that everybody hates and everybody hates their fans. All Right,
that's it for a little Tuesday morning quarterback. Do you
don't have the right go.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Ahead final thought on that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So if I'm if I'm reading this right based on
the website, I'm on Sports media Watch. So the ratings
have gone up incrementally since twenty seventeen. How do we
account for that, because you know, the the population of
the country, the the amount of TVs and homes haven't
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gone up. How do we account for an increase in
ratings each year, and Dan and I we had that
discussion yesterday about the quality of play, and it doesn't
make a whole lot of sense to me. But how
do we account for that? What does the what do
you think the difference has been each and every year?
(11:54):
The increase in popularity.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Increase, the increase of access to betting is probably part
of it. Increase some popularity, and it's just become a
thing like a national holiday, I think of the.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Let's always been both of those things, though, I'm just wondering,
why is it bigger than ever?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What did you say was since when? Since twenty what
are the last seven Super Bowls?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
What was the number? What? What did you say the
twenty seventeen seventeen Let's just take let's just take the
last three years. It's continued to go up.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it's fair to take the last three years
because I think that there still was this COVID thing
going on, but for some reason, the numbers still ended
uh ended up going up in COVID.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
During COVID it was one hundred and one million, and
then the next year one twelve, then one fifteen, and
then last year one twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's crazy that how low it was during COVID, Like,
what else did you have going on? Right?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sick relatives, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But even if you're sick, you're like got a TV
on by the bed side. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, and you would think that there would be more
viewers because people weren't getting together to watch, so there'd
be no TV units.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, more TV's. It gets a good call. That's a
good call.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I think that the the reason for the uptick is
maybe fomo where you may not be interested in it,
but you sure don't want to miss it, Like who
doesn't watch it? So you're gonna watch it. There's different
ways to consume it. I saw people getting together friend
of mine on Facebook. They had like a neighborhood block party,
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so they set out, you know, set up a TV
outside and kids are riding around their bikes. Live in
California where it was still light out when the game
was going on, but doing those sorts of things. I
think it's the fear of missing out, in not wanting
to miss out, whether it be a commercial halftime show
or the actual game.
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Speaker 1 (14:03):
Stuck out the show Fox Sports Radio coming to you
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But before we get to Dan, we have another Dan.
It's all Dan Day. That's what it is. Everyone has
things they would like to take back, but few are
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able to air it on the radio. That's why Dan
has his own buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I engage, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
First of all, a tip of the cap to Doug Gottlieb,
who travels.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
More than anybody that I know and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Still is able to show up at work because I
flew in this morning. Guys from New Orleans came to
work at LAX. Tell you what, I'm dragging a bit today.
So kudos to you, Doug, for all of the hundreds
of times that you've phown here, there and everywhere and
have popped on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't do it too much.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Maybe there's some scar tissue that makes you tough en
up through those experiences.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But man, so do you know where I am today?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Okay, I'm in OsO, Oklahoma. I'm in the coach's office
of my teammate and dear friend, Brian Montinatti. They're defending
state champions and right number one in Oklahoma just popped in.
Do the show here that I'm on my way to Independence,
Kansas the Jayhawk Conference. If you know junior college basketball,
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I'm gonna go recruit. Cowley County plays Indy Independence tonight
seven point thirty and gonna go watch some do some recruiting,
because as much as you can watch a ton on
Synergy and other videos, nothing like seeing a kid play
in person. So I'm going to pop into one junior
college on the way up to see two junior colleges
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play and do some recruiting, and then out at five
poin fifteen in the morning. Uh land in Chicago super early,
like at seven fifteen, Get up to the Bay. Then
we'll have the show tomorrow and then we have afternoon
practice tomorrow afternoon in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, we'll get to mine you're dead. What's
that sleep when you're dead?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Sleep when you're dead. I woke up early this morning
and I had buyer's remorse. I regretted my decision during
our time in New Orleans to not have a beignette,
a beignette, to beignet. How do we say it beignet beignet?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Is that it begnette begnette? Yeah, didn't have one. I
did not have one.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I didn't either, and people keep asking me why I didn't.
I this morning delicious.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm like going around the airport and it's like five
o'clock in New Orleans, and I'm like this, maybe someone's
got to be open. And I smelled what I thought
was fried dough and it was Auntie Annie's pretzels warming
up for the day.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was like, even if it was an airport one
I could say that I did. And I just regret
that I did not take advantage of that New Orleans
fair considering I'm not a gumba or a crawfish or
any of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Abigne is amazing, And you know what, You're right, I
have remorse ight into the same thing. And you know,
I mean I can't tell him. Peoplere like, Hey, you're
gonna stop a Cafe Dumont and have some coffee.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
In a pignet, chickery coffee.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh, the chickery coffee is so good?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What is what is chickery? Is it like bark? What
is it?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Delicious? You can there's actually a place like there's a
chain it's called blue something in that's in California that
you can get the it's called the Nola Coffee.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I did get a can of that for my wife.
She doesn't know it, but that's her gifts coming back
from New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
At least this texted me way to give up, way
to give the secret.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's a blue bottle coffee, blue bottle, and you get
the roasted chickory kit Yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You need to do blue bottle? Just go get the Nola.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh that's good stuff, that's stuff. But I regret that
I did not have a beignet.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I regret that I ordered the hamahawk that night at
the restaurant we we went to had Koshan. It's not
that I don't like hamhock. I like hamhocks and my migraines.
It's just it was all wild fair and there are
so many things. And Dan ordered this piece of fish
that looked beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Wow, Dan, you had fish. Yes, it's quite exciting. No,
I do like fish.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
There's certain certain kinds that I like.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Do you like that fish?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yes, it's very good. I ate the whole thing. Yes,
it was delicious. Did you guys have a muffa letta?
It's like a type of sandwich that are very own.
Chris Purfette kept talking about all Super Bowl week, you
know home, No you ca get those muffletta.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Store at Kashan Butcher. But no way to that. I
mean I was on the ground, like literally, I was
on the ground. I said, forty hours. Somebody else can
do the map. I landed at eleven thirty on Tuesday
night and my flight took off at five thirty on
Thursday afternoon, So.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A lot of time for tourism.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I do not that we're giving a not that we're
giving an ad, but I do have to say Jason
and I went and had a you know, some roots
Chris Steak and people say, why do you go to
a chain?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It did good?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah it is, it's magnificent. And it did start in Louisiana.
Oh so I didn't know that, yeah in New Orleans,
so that is so I didn't feel as guilty about
doing that, And then I didn't feel as guilty going
back last night by myself and just having one for
the road.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was delica.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, absolutely for you, I'll do the steak thing. So
my dear friends own a company called Malot Meats. They
supply all the meats for the the high end restaurants
in the Midwest. And I think I told you I
love this kind of me called hanger steaks. Yeah, the
hanger cut hanger is delicious. Anyway, Scott Perry brought it
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by my house like a big box of them. So
when I got back, like I will sometimes make a
steak for like breakfast or lunch, I just will, so
I actually get the one for the road thing, like,
if you could have a steak, why wouldn't you have
a steak.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I also felt I was going to be up early
so i'd still be hungry, or if at least I
let's have a good meal at night so I'm not
as hungry when I woke up and nothing was open
at the airport, and by goodness I was correct. Was
still pretty full when I woke up in the morning.
But I regret nobgners. But I do have a kit
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that my wife's going to have to try to make some.
She got that in the coffee, So if I we
make any at home, I'll bring them along.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Any other buyers Morse, Nope, that's it, Doug.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Just all food food based Fyers Remorse.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, just one big one. I think it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's fine. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports for Radio, coming
to you from the tyreck dot Com studios, and let's
talk to NBA hoop shaw We after Luca's debut. Plus
of course you have Anthony Davis playing an incredible half
and then stop, you've heard this before. Anthony Davis is hurt,
a guy who many covers this league and knows that
like the back of his hands. Dan Wikie, he's kind
(21:27):
of spent some time with this year. On the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Dan, First, where were you? Where were you
when you heard about the trade?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I was in the press room at Madison Square Garden,
sitting down to craft a story about what I thought
was maybe the best Lakers winning the season, about a
team that seemed like it had really kind of like
really just started to believe in itself as like a
one to five contender. And uh yeah, I mean I
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think like everybody, I saw Shams's tweet and immediately got
or calling people on this because, you know, Doug, it's
funny like how this works. A couple of days earlier.
And I say this not to pretend like I knew
the Traders happened, because I didn't. But I had heard
that the Lakers were working on something with the Dallas Mavericks,
and I had heard it from a team that would
have been a third team to help facilitate the deal,
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and even that team didn't know what was happening. And
I was spitballing with this executive like, you know, could
it be for Klay Thompson. Well, it wouldn't be for
Daniel Gafford, would it, because you know, Derek Lively's hurt
and nowhere. I mean, I even got to maybe it's
Kyrie again. Like I'd never once considered Lukadavic. I don't
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think anyone around the league considered Lukadavic. And it was
kind of a pretty bizarre experience to be walking through
the hallways of an empty Madison Square garden, while my
other kind of fellow Laker Bee writers are all just
on the phone, just yelling at her sources, basically all
skimming what Dallas just happened.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, So once they found out, like, what is the
chatter with didn't wake you join us? By the way
covers the NBA for the LA Times, What is that
shatter between all of the inside because that's I think
that there's a bunch of different pastating levels to the trade.
But the fact that no one had it right, no
one had it yeah, is amazing. What's the chatter been?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Like? You know, it's been kind of you know, there's
been some sort of unwinding trying to figure out who
knew what and when right? And I think I mean,
there were some people like you know, JJ Redick learned
on Saturday of the of the possibility of the deal
earlier in the day. You know, there were PR staffers
and stuff who were aware that this was a we'll
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say a strong possibility, so they were kind of on guard,
but like nothing like within you know, I mean, nobody
had like six hours notice on this right, like it
was this was all very need to know and really
the people that seem mostly the need to know like
kind of the core for the negotiations, right, you know,
the demand Yadelson family, and you know Jimmy Buss, Nico
(24:06):
Harrison and Rob Bolinka and and I think I mean
the agents, you know, particularly Clutch Forts is not involved
at all in this, which was fascinating. It was a
fascinating sort of shift. And I think this was this
was GMS and ownership kind of reshaping their teams. The
Lakers coming out of this reshaping their future and Dallas
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making you know, a pretty sizable best against Luka Dancic
and for their future, and you know they've had just
sort of a dreadful week because of it.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, Okay, so let's get to the Lakers. I think
I think a lot of people have made a lot
of statements about what it means for the Lakers. Right.
The first thing is like outside looking in, like Rob
Polink is good for five years, Right, there's no you
can't get rid of the guy who got got Lukadancik.
(24:59):
Whether or not it works out, it doesn't matter. But
what does it mean for the Lakers short term? What
does it mean for the Lakers? Uh? Slightly longer term?
So this year and then the next couple.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, I think let's start with this year, Doug. I think,
you know, this was a team that, you know, the
Lakers don't really do anything quietly, right, but like they've
been playing awesome basketball for a few weeks now before this, right,
a team that had sort of turned its season around defensively,
a team that you know was finding sort of like
(25:33):
it's belief in the overall systems. They were getting healthy,
and you know, it started to put together some pretty
nice wins. You know, they had just beaten the Boston Celtics.
They had won, to know, I guessaid in New York City,
you know, trending pretty well. And I think, like you know,
being around the team and talking to players, there was
a sense that, like, you know, maybe they had a chance.
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Like I think everybody knew like a lot would have
to break their way, but maybe there was a chance.
And then I think, you know, there was an immediacy
of the deal, like some real kind of morning about that,
you know, because all of that stuff and all the
problem solving and everything like that they had worked towards
was out the window. That lasted for a few days.
Then they beat the Clippers, and they come back and
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again shorthanded perform well and play with that same sort
of intensity. And now all of a sudden, it's like, well, like,
what's our ceiling if we have Luka Doncic, Like how
good can we be? Right? Like, this guy just went
to the NBA Finals on a roster that we think
is worse than the one we have now, Like, you know,
you didn't have Lebron James as a teammate, he didn't
have Austin Reeves, Like, like, you know, how.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Good can we be?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
And I think that's been the short term has been
like you know, this team has a real chance. Now.
The more interesting thing, Doug, I think is that for
the first time in twenty plus years of basketball being
played anywhere on this planet, a decision was made not
with Lebron James first and foremost out of Lebron James team,
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Like this was about the next seven years. This is
about life with the Lakers post Lebron James. This was
about skipping all the painful steps that were assured to them,
you know, just to just once he goes away, right,
like I'm not having draft picks, you know, having to
rebuild that way in an era where free agency isn't
(27:23):
quite the you know the green fields, the lush green
fields that it's been in the past. Uh, it was
going to be ugly and it was gonna be rough
and in like a blank you know, they're good like
they're in. They're in a tremendous position.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So now you think, you think they're better now than
they were with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I think they have a better chance to win now,
you know, I think their ceiling is higher. There's going
to be real, real defensive concerns. There are things that
they're absolutely worse at today without Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis
was having a of it season. You know, it's gonna
be an All Star heavy stayed healthy, would have been
an All NBA player, like no doubt, right. And I
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think Dallas, by the way too, in the short term,
like it solved like some real short term needs for
that team.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's just Doug.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Playoff basketball is different in a way that like you know,
while like positional size matters, while like having dominant defensive
bigs matters, like give me a shot maker, like just
like an all time tough shot maker.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Sure, and the.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Lakers had one of Lebron James. Now they have two
one of them, you know what I mean, And it
just opens up so much more for Lebron. They're going
to go into playoff series, Doug, where you know they're
going to have, if not the two best players on
the court, certainly two of the best three, and virtually
any matchup like like picket right, and they'll have two
(28:46):
of the best three players on the court. And that's
a pretty good position to start at in any playoff series.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Dan Waikee joining us here on the Doug Ottlieb Show
on Fox Sports for Okay, let's go to Dallas, Cuz
whatever are they thought the reaction would be. I don't
think they thought the reaction would be this negative. That said,
I did find it ironic that that the reason supposed
that they wanted to move off of Luca was personal
(29:15):
habits and keeping himself in shape and his injuries. Like, look,
Anthony Davis had had a great year last year of
not getting hurt and taking care of his body. But
that was the mL of Anthony Davis, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, it's you know, it was just really shortsighted. You
know that That to me is I think the biggest
takeaway from all of this and being around teams and
especially being around teams that like are really really good
but you're not quite sure if they ever can get
to great. It's taxing. It's just really taxing, and you
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start to examine yourself in ways that's like really uncomfortable,
and you start having conversations of like are we really
good enough? Is this really worth it? What can we
do now? And you know, I don't want to pretend
to know what everything that was happening inside that Neverige
front office and inside ownership there right, Like it seems
like it's a combination of all the recruiting that's come out, right,
Like there are money issues at play, there are conditioning
(30:11):
issues that play. You know, there's this looming or was
this looming sort of you know, the richest contract in
NBA history for a player who you know their fearing
is going to increasingly have soft tissungers like, oh, that
stuff is fine and good. I think they misunderstood a
misread sort of like the cultural impact in that city
that you know, like homegrown stars have, you know, like
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the Dirk Similarly, like I just had the bridge from
Lebron just like what's coming next for the Lakers like
the Mavericks didn't have to go through that either, because
they went from Dirk to Lucas you know. And I
have friends from Dallas. I have friends with Dallas who
don't even like watch the maverage on a regular basis,
who are like totally incensed by this, who like cannot
wrap their heads around this in a real way, and
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you know who say things like even if we won
a title year, it wouldn't be with it. And I
think it's just a misreading of sort of the emotional
ties that a player can have to a city when
it's like a special relationship when you see that player,
especially you know, a four more player from the age
of eighteen, Like they just mean a lot to that,
to those kinds of markets. And yeah, it's I mean,
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I don't want to say it's a whiff, right, Like
we don't know what's going to happen with Lukea's body.
We don't know if Anthony Davis is back in four
weeks and is you know, wreck and Chop again like
he was in the first half before the trick. We
don't know any of that stuff. It just like when
you hear things like even if they win a title,
it's not gonna be worth it, Like, and I've heard
that from agents and stuff like that. You just kind
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of sepect to be like, why did this happen?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Crazy? It's a crazy statement. Yeah, crazy statement. Dan. Awesome job, man,
love having you on. Thanks so much for joining us.
We'll talk soon, Okay, Thanks Doug.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Something good.
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to the press.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
The press, Dan, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The big news of the day of the National Football
League is news that we felt was there about two
weeks ago, Kellen Moore officially named the head coach of
the New Orleans Saints. Now all vacancies in the NFL
for the head coaching jobs have been filled, and there
are reports that Brandon State could be going to New
Orleans to serve as Moore's defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Last former Cowboys offensive coordator be the head coach of
the Saints with Sean Payton. That went okay, So we'll
see how this one goes well.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
It's also a very dark reminder for Charger fans the
last time Brandon Staley and Kellen Moore were together, it
was the most disappointing season of our lifetimes. Because remember
Justin Herbert was in a rookie is still had his
rookie contract. Figure, we had a bunch of really good
players on the team. The Chargers decided to bring back
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dainst Brandon Staley, and of course Kellen Moore was along
for the ride. The most disappointing season in my lifetime
for the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Thanks for bringing up good memories.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I'm gonna bring up a conspiracy theory, Doug Okay, So
Cliff Kingsbury among.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Others, turn it down.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yes, not interested in this job. So why does Kellen
Moore take it? The Saints, who I thought were going
to be the worst team in the NFL this past season,
I think very well could be the worst team in
the NFL next season. They just they are in salary
cap hell, they've got they've they still haven't hit rock
bottom yet.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But that may be good news for Saints fans.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Get a coach in there, an offensive coach that you
like that will be there for the long haul. Twenty
twenty five is a ditch year because you've got to
clean out everything as well.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
And there's a chance, there is a chance, I would
I wouldn't say a great chance, but I think a
decent chance that the Saints could have the opportunity to
pick arch Manning number one overall in next year's NFL draft.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I love it. That's really good. That's really good.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Then you got your offensive coach there with your young quarterback,
full circle from Archie Manning, the whole Manning klan. I
think that that would be I think that would be
ideal for the New Orleans Saints. Throw away twenty And
if the Saints are bad, then arch has got a
decision to make of entering the NFL Draft, and if
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they're picking number one, he doesn't have to pull an
ELI and ask to go somewhere else. He'll go to
New Orleans. And if they're not picking number one, he
could just stay in school another year. So good my theory.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's a really good.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Story, Sam, that's some of your best work right there.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That franchise needs something exciting. Since Drew Brees retired, it
has been slim pickens.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
We now have more information on why the fan was
ejected from last night's game against the for the Dallas
Mavericks against the Sacramento Kings violation of the NBA's Code
of Conduct. The Mavericks actually released a statement saying that
the guests were ejected because in the first incident, the
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guests brought in a sign that broke the following rule
included in the Code of conduct. That is, clothing, garments,
or signs displaying explicit language, profanity, or derogatory characterization towards
any person. So fire Nico was the derogatory phrase not
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supposed to be used by the fan. Another one of
the two guys was seen with the mouthing fire Nico
on the jumbo tron when they panned to him on
the video screens, which would be funny if you saw
them with the fire Nico signs. Why would you put
him on camera in the first place?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
But not sure they did.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
They did, don't you think it's really it's bad optics.
I just let the fans have their say. Like literally,
throwing that guy out of the game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Creates it bigger, makes a bigger deal of it.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Negative attention now.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Makes it a bigger deal, makes a bigger deal. Although
I'll say this. You liked how I got my guy
to stop chanting about my daughter right at the Cleveland
State game. Do you guys remember that?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah? How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We're first half A guy was asking where Harper is?
Oh yeah, and I want to meet Harper and all
these things about Harper. And so I walked over to
him right before the start of the half and I said, hey, buddy,
you say it again, I'm gonna have you escorted out
of the arena. She's eighteen years old. That's how it bounds.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Hey, you sound like a creep.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but instead of making a big show
of it, yeah and whatever, Just I mean, I actually
liked the Westbrook thing. Where he's done that a couple
of times. Just go you you goodbye, take them out.
It's your right as an athlete and as a coach
you can do it. And so that's all Dallas should
have done. And just pull the guy aside him and
somebody wants to see you outside.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
They're taking your sign, sir, take away. You're signed now.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You don't have to word about the sign. Just hey,
take him out, Hey, come come with us. We want
to take you up to meet somebody.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
You gotta be careful, though, Doug, because if someone say,
in your next game, someone has a sign that says
Harper's bizarre, and then you have a conversation with him,
he could just be selling magazines at the game.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You love that alliteration? Do you love that alliteration?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I love magazines?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Harper's.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Last time that was in print was the last time.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
When have you ever picked up a Harper's Bazaar.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's like what our grandmother's read.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I'm sure we probably read it A doctor's officer to
that National.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Diagram and Highlights magazine.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, Highlights magazine. That's the press us back.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yes, sorry, Dan, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
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