May 6, 2021 • 39 mins
Doug Gottlieb talks about Adam Schefter’s decision to hold onto a story throughout the offseason and conveniently release it hours before the NFL Draft. He shares the only two ways it plays out in Green Bay and explains why news of Albert Pujols’ release is such a shocker. Plus, Matt ‘Money’ Smith of AM 570 L.A. Sports stops by to weigh in on Albert Pujols’ tenure with the Angels and the post-draft outlook for the Chargers and Rams!
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Poolhols was d f aide that's designated for assignment. I
have lots of thoughts on that one, um, lots of
thoughts on them that I was sharing with you throughout
the show. I can only tell you though, that what's curious.
What's curious is that Albert pool Holes it was the
first ballot Hall of Famer, a great hitter um and
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and obviously that signing did not prove fruitful in in
almost anyway. Like it's it's one of those things where
the angels will will will die on the hill of Hey,
we draw three. We drew three million people a year
when he was here, even though we didn't win a
playoff series. But the fact is that before Albert pool
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Holes and after our pools they drew three million people
a year. They don't have their own network. I guess
maybe it creates some in roads and maybe a little
bit more money from their rs n s, but not
a ton. It was a bad signing. There's just no
other way around it. But it was not he was
not they were not the highest bidders, and the Cardinals
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played it completely correctly. So there's a lot of a
lot of stuff kind of to get to there. But
cutting a guy on May six who isn't productive, I'm
not trying to defend his level of productivity, but right
when before he was about to face a picture whom
he dominated, who has dominated previously, and oh yeah, by
the way, like, if you're gonna cut a guy like that,
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if he's going to retire. Then you say, hey, we're
gonna do this in a week, let's have a couple
of special games for Albert Pools. They didn't. It tells
you all you need to know. Let me start though
with this story. So the um Aaron Rodgers saga continues.
And I think the great thing about this this network
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is that from Clay in the Morning to Dan to
Colin to me right, you have four very different not
just unique styles of doing a show, but you also
this is not. One of the things I didn't like
when I was at ESPN was the car wash effect.
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And I understand that many of you, and the way
we were always taught as radio guys is like, look,
something happened previously in the day, even on the same
radio network. It doesn't matter. You have a distant, different listener.
The problem with it is if you don't have unique interviews,
you don't have a unique show. And oh yeah, by
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the way, once you get to the third or fourth interview,
a lot of times the guys get punchy and they
just want to get it done more than anything. So
what's great is my guest booker is different than Colin's
guest booker is different than Dan's guest booker. Do we
all work for the same company, Do we have a
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boss who tries to integrate everything kind of together? Sure?
But you know Clay had the president on the last president.
You know Colin has had on some of his own
own kind of unique guest. Dan, by my estimation, he's
long standing been now only the best interviewer in the
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business and sports radio, but he has different relationships and
will put different people on than than Colin or Clay
or even me. He can in his reach like Dan,
obviously he's done everything, and then the people we have
honor different than the So what I love about this
is you have a diversity not just of voices and styles,
but also of guests. Adam Schefter, of course works at
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the ESPN where Dan, me Colin all used to work,
was on with Dan this morning. Now remember here's his
initial tweet, and then of course he was on NFL
Live after this tweet on Draft Day that's a week
ago today. This is what happened while we were doing
this show. Rating m v P. Aaron Rodgers is so
disgrunted with the Green Bay Packers that he has told
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some within the organization that he does not feel that
does not want to return to the team league and
team sources told ESPN on Thursday, this is Adam Schefter
earlier this morning. This is an accumulation all during the
off season of just listening to people talk and observing.
And if we go back to the NFC Championship game,
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and it sounds almost like he's saying goodbye to Green Bay.
And so you're antenna is up, and I'm just telling you.
Throughout the course of the season, there was rarely a
week that went by where I didn't hear something about
Aaron Rodgers. And on Draft Day there's a report that
morning from Paul Allen out in Minneapolis that the Forts
made a draft offer, which they didn't make an offer.
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They never made an offer. And the other people saying
that the Fort is called. And I said, how long
until it gets out that Aaron Rodgers wants that? Is
it next week? Is it next when he doesn't show
to the o t A s is it next month?
When he isn't it's going to come out. What does
it matter if it comes out now or next week
or next month. And so so you chose to break
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the news on Draft day that is actually that is
absolutely accurate. Correct, But it wasn't something that you got
information about. No, No, there was nothing that morning that
came in said to me, yeah, he wants out. You
should report this. Like it was going on all off season.
There was more and more talk, and now the story
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to Beanna Rodgers talking. I said, you know what, this
isn't gonna wait much longer. Let's just go. And it
just happened to be drafted. Just happened to be drafting.
I if you believe that I have um, I have
ocean front property in the state of Kansas for you.
I like Adam, he's as respected as anybody in the business.
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But the covering of his tracks poorly, right, Like this
is like dudes who commit a crime and then it's
it's not the crime, it's the cover up that ends
up getting them caught. Well, we didn't actually find any blood,
but we found excessive amounts of bleach and acid where
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we thought there might be blood. Like you're covering things up. Oh,
and I didn't get the information Baron Rodgers or his camp,
and I didn't get the information from the packers. Of
course you didn't get it from the packers. I think
the packers want people to know that Aaron Rodgers doesn't
want to come back to the Green Bay Packers like that.
That's not even and I've heard from people that that
did they think the Green Bay Packers linked this? Why
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would they do that? How would they do that? There
is only two possible believable scenarios. One is that Adam
Schefter did this to draw attention to himself and the
shows that he's on and the NFL draft himself. That
is it. That is plausible, plausible. The other possibility right.
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The other possibility is that um is that Aaron Rodgers
wanted this out on draft day as an epic to
the packers, also plausible. Did we find out if either
of which are true. It felt a little bit more
like the former than the latter, but that doesn't actually
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mean it was the former, not the ladder. No, I
didn't get any new information. There was nothing new. This
is just an accumulation. Just happened to be drafting. I
was born at night, not last night. I like Adam.
But the covering of the tracks, the I don't know
how anybody could think that Aaron Rodgers would put this
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out there. Why would anybody think that anybody other than
me it wasn't one source tell me this is over
an off season of accumulation of information. Look, he's right,
there was an off season of stuff. But to only
report it at that very moment, on that very day,
it's not even it's it's so highly unlikely that it
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just it almost becomes laughable. It does. This is former
teammate John coon on Aaron situation. If I used my
gut and I used everything that I said, it that
I hear from the Packers organization, it makes me feel really,
really good if I use the football business acumen and
see the tough spot that the Packers are in right
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now with that first round pick that they used last
year on Jordan's love, that's what makes me pull back
a little bit. I still think it's somewhere around that
Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Packers this year.
It's John Coo. I've heard all kinds of scenarios. None
even makes sense not trading him to Denver. Why would
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they wave the white flag on a season where they
went to the NFC Championship game the past two years,
this time having home field advantage and thinking they've improved
their weaknesses at cornerback and at offensive line. I think
logically I cut out a motion of it. I tell
you what I really think, what I really hear, what
I really know. Two other quarterbacks have floated out wanting
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to be traded. Deshaun Watson grant it, it can't be
traded now, but he wasn't being traded previously. And Russell
Wilson and many others have offered up the possibility of
wanting to go elsewhere because they couldn't. They didn't like
decisions that were made by the front office. Congrats. Be
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio a app Doug
Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. So Mark fine sand covers
the Angels and all things baseball. So the Angels are
releasing Albert Pools, the future Hall of Famer. Pools in
the final year of a two d and fifty three
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million dollar contract. Um, he's not actually like if you
look at Albert pool holss deal, it actually doesn't even
end when it ends. That's the that's the worst part
about it is it does and actually end when it ends.
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Keep in mind, this is a guy who signed a deal,
um and it's it's thirty million dollars here in his
last year. I believe he's still paid after this for
like making appearances for the team. That's what's really weird
about it, right, It's there, three or four months away
from getting out of this contract and they still, you know,
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they still want to get out of it. We'll go
to our resident Angel expert, Gavin. Gavin, what do you
think of of the timing of releasing our pools. I
thought it was very weird. I really thought, you know,
whether or not the Angels would do well this season,
they would want to get him further up the record books.
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So that's why this comes as a stunning moment. Do
you remember where you were when the trade happened or
that the signing happened, because I do. In I remember
the news coming. I was at a star Bucks in Fullerton,
and I remember telling the barista. The barista couldn't care
at all, but I was like, oh my god, the
Angels just got Albert pooh Hoole's coming off. Then m
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v P season again, I think, and h just amazing.
He was hitting with five home runs played appearances. They
started twenty of the first twenty nine games, and he
had two games at d H. Yes, John Ramos, Yeah,
but nobody. I I remember when he was signed to
and I remember sports talk radio and maybe we were
talking about it, maybe the show I was on before
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was whatever. But nobody that I talked to her so ever,
said you know what, that ten years gonna be great.
I need nobody thought that he would fill that full
ten with with Albert Pool hosts like numbers. I mean,
this is not shocking to me that he's batting on
the decline. I mean I think they knew that going in.
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They just hoped the first four years, which I thought
he did very well, we're going to be enough to
get into the playoffs and to win a World Series.
And he just never never to realize. Look, here's what
happened to the Angels, and people don't want to you know, everybody,
they didn't win a playoff series or whatever. They were
the best team in baseball in two thousand fourteen. They
were sixty four and they were beaten by the kan
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City Worlds in three games. And the Royals, remember came
from behind, I believe, to beat the Rangers in the
wild Card game, remember they used to be the uh
it was the wild Card Game. And but the first
two games of that series against the Royals in Anaheim,
the problem wasn't the starting pitching. It was they lost
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in extra innings three to two and four to one.
But it's all both in eleven innings. So yeah, they
didn't hit and the Royals went to the playoffs. But
it was more that's baseball sort of thing, right, I mean,
they were a great baseball team, and after that the
next year, uh, the next year they only won eighty five.
They won in his first uh three years there, they
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won eighty nine and seventy eight, and then you know
they the roof kind of fell in after a while.
But also Trout would be hurt in some big instances,
and their pitching wasn't good enough. And that's really kind
of what it came down to, is there. Their pitching
just wasn't good enough. Now, could they have used some
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of the money they paid to our pools for better pitching, yes,
but money wasn't really the issue. It was just complete
mismanagement and then a lot of bad luck. Right, you
have their top overall prospect killed, uh in a car accident.
You have another starting pitcher who dies of the drug overdose.
You know you had uh, you have other pictures who
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just fizzle, and many who have gotten hurt. They had
massive injuries to their pitching staff. Everything that possibly could
have gone wrong with the pitching staff has gone wrong
with the Angels pitching staff. Pools, meanwhile, has never really
been their best player. It just has in terms of
wins above replacement. He has never been their best player.
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That's the more stunnything. The stunning thing is not how
it ended. The stunning thing is how it wasn't really
ever all that great. Right like in the year in
which in the year in which they were the best
team in baseball, Albert Pools hit to seventy two o
b P three right home runs. He was good, but
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Mike Trott was the better player, you know. And remember
they had the Josh Hamilton tobacco as well. That all
that all happened all about the kind of the same
time they gave Josh Hamilton's a five year, five million
dollar deal, Vernon Wells Um seven years, one s C. J.
Wilson five years, seventies seven million. None of them really
panned out. Be sure to catch the live edition of
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The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific Doug Gotlips Show here on Fox Sports Trader.
We'll get to bat money Smith in a second. Um. Yeah,
look it, it's all about timing, right. Even what's interesting
is Alex Rodriguez. I think they announced on like a
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Sunday his last game would be a Thursday. They couldn't
get him out of the building fast enough, but even
they gave Yankee fans a little bit of heads up. Hey,
we're gonna you know, we're gonna get rid of this
guy here in um in a couple of in a
couple of days. Just again, just a heads up. Meanwhile,
the Angels, I think it was last night, right, last
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night they lost. They've lost three in a row now
to the uh three in a row, to the to
the Rays. But it was more that the Rays. I
guess they were starting where they were starting a left
handed pitcher, somebody who had he had dominated and he
wasn't in the lineup, and maybe he lost his mind
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and started throwing bats around. I don't know. Matt money
Smith UH joined us on The Dug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports, Raydo Money. What do you think of
the timing of the Apper Pool's release. Well, I would
guess that they probably, you know, went to Albert. I
mean he's I mean, you've been around a long time,
you know, you get around some people that have an
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aura about them or they're just supremely kind to everyone
they come in contact with. And and you know, my
limited interactions with Pools were like that, just as likable
as superstar as I've ever been around. And I'm sure
the Angels felt the same way. And that would lead
me to believe they went to him and said, hey,
this ain't working out. We can't have you, you know,
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barking at Joe if you're trying to stat Chase when
he's trying to build a team that we know you're
not gonna be part of long term. So do you
want to walk away? Or And I guess that probably
got contentious and this was the last straw and they're like, fine,
we're done. Because I've got to believe they would have tried. Look,
I remember when they signed Albert and I brought this up.
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I said, everybody was, you know, saying what a disaster
this deal is. You've got to think about the last
five years, and I said, look, the Angels TV deal
is up. The Angels are not the Dodgers. They don't
sell those kind of tickets. They don't move the needle
like that. But if you can sell Albert Pools and
three thousand hits and six on her home runs and
all that, you're probably gonna get a good TV deal.
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And what happened. They signed Albert Pools. They get a
two billion dollar deal from Fox and Prime Ticket for
their local TV. Little did we know Mike Trout was
going to turn out to maybe be the greatest baseball
player that ever lived. Um, and they wouldn't have needed
to do it. But I do think it's served that purpose.
And I think the Angels two billion dollars in her pocket.
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Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, but
but but May six like, why wouldn't you do it?
Why wouldn't you do it? Hey? Man, Like, we're gonna
have one last weekend at the Big A and then
we're gonna, you know, then we'll release you, you know
next weekend. Well, we'll find a big series too. We'll
put you on the d L for a couple of
weeks and then one last big series. Why now why?
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They probably that's what they wanted to do, and Albert
probably said, no, I'm not gonna go quietly. I'm gonna
go to my scribes that I've known for twenty years
in this game, and I'm gonna leak that you got
I want to play you guys won't play me, and
it's gonna get ugly. And so I think here, it
gives the a. It gives the Angels the opportunity to
essentially wield the sword right and and release. We love Albert,
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we appreciate Albert. That's why we're giving him his release
right now, so he can seek other opportunity kind of stuff. Right.
If he's not gonna go out gracefully, we're going to
force him to go out gracefully by saying what a
great person he is and how much we appreciate him.
That way, they control the message. He doesn't if it
got sideways on him here. Yeah, yeah, it never ends well, Doug.
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You know that it doesn't. You know, it ended well
for David Ortiz and that's it. It was. It's it
doesn't matter the sport, right, It's just it is almost
impossible for it to end how the player wants it
to end, you know, especially the super ours that we
have grown to love and appreciated, the icons of their era,
because they hang on too long, you know, because they're
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paid to hang on too long. And why would you
walk away from thirty million bucks a year? Um, give
me your take on the Aaron Rodgers situation. UM, you know,
I don't. I don't buy. I think he leaked it.
I think it's a I think it was a horrible
thing that he did. Um. I'm you know, I'm someone
who's been part of the draft for ten years. Now
I get to go to the combine and I get
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to meet these kids and I get to see the
excitement on their face and and them realizing this dream
they've had their entire lives, and these three four days
should be all about them, and it should be a
celebration of their rising from the amateur ranks of the
professional ranks and achieving a dream that one percent of
one percent and one percent and one percent of the
football playing public gets to realize. And he cast a
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pall over all of that, and shame on him for
doing that, and shame on his agent for doing that,
because they wanted to fast track this thing because you
know there's no sense in trading for Rogers now, you
know you're not going to get those draft assets until
next year. If you're the Packers, you've already paid him
seven million bucks in a roster bonus, And why why
would that sunk cost? Would you move on with the
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raining m v P and a roster that looks like
it's the best in the NFC along with the box.
This doesn't make any sense. So I totally think it
was the Rogers camp that leaked this and tried to
force their hand to see if someone would freak out
right and overpay and give him a bunch of draft
picks so they could move them. And on the on
the draft to add Adam schefterlin on Dan Patrick today
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and said like, all I just nobody called me. There
was no breaking if this is an offseason where I
accumulated all this information and I just so happened to
put it out on draft day like yeah, no, no,
don't buy it. It's it's all Rogers and again, um,
and I mean, look it, it's it's been harsh shirt,
but shame on him. That's it's just it's it's when
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you it's funny when I came on Doug and you
were talking about a Rod, I wasn't quite sure which
direction you were going to go because I brought this
up at reeks of a Rod, you know, leak in
his contract information at the start of the World Series,
and everyone's like, what a jerk, it's the World Series, man,
Just wait a week and then we'll find out that
you're going to the Yankees. All right, just enough? And
and and I think you know it's a Rod and
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a Rod coincidence. We all know he's been a bit
of an abrasive personality. You never hear people talk about
Aaron Rodgers like they talk about Tom Brady, you know,
or some of these other quarterbacks that have guys that
will move to Tampa to play with them, and Gronk
and in a b and you know, you hear outside
of they are to play with you, don't. I just
don't feel like we hear that about a Rod, you know,
about Alex about Aaron Rodgers. So, um, yeah, I thought
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it was I thought it was a bad look for him,
and I think it's a bad and super selfish move. Um,
just because you know, I want to celebrate those three
kids and I want I want them to have that
weekend be all about them and their families and enjoy
and I feel like expect. I mean, look, if you're
Eric Stokes, yeah, this should be a day that man
is is unlike any other. I'm sure it was. But
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when your name gets read by the Packers and and
everyone's like, well, that's not gonna make Rogers happy. Another
corner in the first round. Thanks a lot, Aaron. You
know that that should have been Eric Eric Stokes corner.
They could use corner help. It's a passing league. This
guy ran four three, played in the SEC. He's got length,
he's got sized. What a great draft pick. Instead, it
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was well, Aaron's gonna be pissed about this one. And
that's on Aaron Rodgers. Matt Money spent joining us on
the Doug got Lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, let's let's get closer to home. Obviously, Uh,
you're the voice of the Chargers. Um, I feel like
you talked about the roster of the Packers and we
we everybody likes what they saw from Justin Herbert. But
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let's not go crazy. He's only been in the year
league for a year. It's got a whole new coaching staff.
But it does feel like he has an incredible team
around him. Yeah, and you know he I'll tell you, Doug,
he played behind the worst offensive line in the league
last year. And as I was kind of you know,
doing and some podcasts and TV and stuff getting ready
for the draft, a lot of people and I found
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myself kind of engaging with some folks and it was good.
It was spirited. But they were like, you have to
take an O L in the first round. You have
to take a half, they have to take tackle. If
you don't, it's a failure of a draft. Now, look
it broke that way, right. They had a top ten
players sitting at thirteen. Some people think the best left
tackle in the draft. And I said, but wait a minute,
let's not forget Justin Herbert threw yards and thirty one
touchdowns behind the worst offensive line in the league. So
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if you can just move it to average, if you
can just move it to the middle as opposed to
dead laugh, think about how much better he's gonna be.
So don't feel like you're trapped into and painted into
this corner where you have to draft for need Um.
Now did work out and and they now have what
I think is league average to may to be one
of the better offensive lines with the free agent signings
Linsley at center, Filer, you got Brian Bulaga, who they
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feel like last year had an outlier injury season. Um,
and now they got Slater, so that's gonna be a
huge upgrade. The issues that plagued then laugh Mr Chunk
Melbourne Ingram was almost they missed almost the entire season.
Derwin missed the whole season. Their corners were never healthy. Um.
I feel like they got better depth now. But at
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the same time, they lost five games that they had
leads in the fourth quarter, and I mean some were
like the Saints games. They were up with two minutes left,
then the Saints tiedle with a field goal and Justin
Herbert had him in field goal range for a game
winning kick that missed. Uh. They were up three on
the on the Chiefs and the final two minutes of
a game that Patrick Mahomes ends up tying up that
game and winning in overtime. Like, there were so many
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of those, just bad decisions, bad breaks, mismanaging the clock,
bad special teams that we know is historically one of
the worst special teams units in in NFL history, you
feel like if you could just get that back to
the middle um from all the way at the edge
of one of the worst I do think this is
one of the better rosters and one of the better teams,
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And a lot of people are excited about their new
head coach, Brandon Staley. Doug ot Lip show here on
Foxible all right, now do the Rams well, I think
if you just go, if you just go quarterback production right,
and if if you're willing to to kind of subscribe
to the idea. And I am that Sean McVeigh is
one of the best play callers in the league. When
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it comes to offense, you're gonna have a hard time out.
You know, if you're a defensive coordinate, better be super sharp.
So it was clear that Jared Goff could not do
everything Sean McVeigh wanted to do. And you know, the
Chargers played him two years ago, and just watch and
talking to Gus Bradley before that game and him talking
about just the fit, the way he uses motion. Some
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of the plays you just don't quite see coming because
there's always a wrinkle. I think we have Stafford back
there instead of Golf that's gonna make such a big difference. Um,
we've seen them plug and play guys, right, Josh Reynolds, Jefferson,
didn't matter who the back was, Malcolm Brown, Todd Gurley.
It's just kind of it's very Shanahan asked, Right, the
names don't really matter. It's almost like the system. And
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I hate doing that, right because everybody's so show you
gotta have talent on your roster. But it does seem
like in the case of McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, the
scheme really is, Um, is that important to their success
when you drop you know, when you drop a Stafford there,
and then you flip it to the other side of
the ball, and you've got the best player in the
NFL and Aaron Donald on the front end and Jalen
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Ramsay the best corner in the league on the back.
And that is just a nightmare, a nightmare to deal with.
So I I do think they're the best team in
the NFC West and and I expect big things out
of them. Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Matt money Smith is our is our guest, all right,
uh um helped me out with the Lebron thing. Okay,
(27:42):
so he says this ankle injury is the worst injury
he's ever suffered now for for his money, he's right,
you know, he hasn't suffered many injuries. But he said
he will never be the same and ever be the same.
And then he lashes out at whoever came up with
the playing game idea when they're not in the playing game.
But then he doesn't play a couple of games and
(28:04):
they're gonna play their way into the playing game. What's
really going on with le Bront I think, I think
similar to what we talked about with Pools, but certainly
nowhere near that dire as it stands right now. Um,
I think it's the worst injury he's ever sustained because
he's old, you know, and he's got all those minutes
and he's got all that where on that body, and
(28:25):
it's not recovering perhaps like he's I think we've all
that are old enough to recognize go through it. And
it's weird, you know, like for whatever reason, you know,
if you're someone who is active or athletic or whatever
you may do to participate in in games or hobbies
or activities, there's a certain point in your life when
(28:47):
your body just all of a sudden, you feel like
betrays you and you're like, hey, wait a minute, man,
why can't why can't I go play golf? Uh for
the next two weeks because every time I think backs
when the back is tweaked, I remember getting this injury
ten years ago, and I back out there in the afternoon.
I can just stretch it out, I said, I ad Bill,
I'm good. And I think that's probably what's going with
Ammed Lebron is injury, an injury that he would be
(29:09):
back from already. I mean, we know you said it.
It is probably the worst injury because the guy never
misses games. He would fight through everything, played through everything,
never get hurt in the first place. And so I
think this is maybe him kind of getting to look
at it at father time and saying, man, I don't
like this. I do not like this at all, especially
when I gotta play. And I mean looking at the
playing game, right, if you've got to do it, if
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you have a playing game, and you've got to start
thinking about Steph Curry and that and and facing elimination
against the guy who can drop sixty on you if
he gets hot in your defense. Thing right, I can
see why he'd blast out and be all frustrated. Yeah.
I my thinking, my thought of it as this Matt
Money spent our guest I gotlip show, Fox Sports Radio.
(29:52):
My thought of it is, you know, we all have
we all know people who just lived those blessed lives
where everything works out in their favor, and then when
they those same people something happens in terms of adversity,
they don't know how to deal with it. I think
that's Lebron in terms of injuries, you know, is that
he he legitimately has no idea how to deal with
(30:13):
being injured because he's never been injured before. And and
and look at high ankle sprain is when instead of
like you're the outside of your foot going under the
inside of your foot, it's the inside of your foot
going over the outside of your foot. Right, That's the way,
and everybody has like, look, it takes a lot longer,
it is really painful, it does suck nobody's but he
(30:33):
had to know that he wasn't going to play in
those games and that his team was gonna lose. Otherwise,
why I talk about a playing game, which if you
just win games, you're not playing in anyway. Yeah, And
I think it's also disappointment in the roster, right, I mean,
it's it's disappointment that, you know, Anthony Davis on his
own shifty enough to carry this team to some of
the wins for the teams that they lost to that
(30:55):
are the dregs of the Eastern Western Conference that they're
they're you know, stringing together losses when they should at
least be able to kind of hover around five hundred. UM.
So I think there's frustration there, you know, if you're
you know, if you're if you're that guy that that
feels like, hey man, my back is hurting from carrying
you guys all this time. Can you just give me
(31:15):
two weeks? Can you give me two weeks where you're
just kind of bawling and and stepping up where I
don't have to freak out. So I think there's that
frustration um as well. And I think, you know, I
think he maybe sees the landscape and the path as
being a little more perilous then last year, you know,
And and look we're going through with the Dodgers right now,
(31:37):
where everybody mentioned asterisk asterisk, you know, at sixty games
season bubble playoffs, no home field or or road trips.
And and I wonder if he looks at that with
the Lakers like yeah and the bubble, you know, weird
playoff season, no home field of band, no travel you know,
thinking about trying to just validate that that run to
(31:58):
a championship by than one back to back, and probably
recognizes this is probably his best shot. Um. Like I said,
if it's starting to slip away, help you know, health
wise and activity wise with his body because of his
age in minutes and where. Um. But you know, and
I like your theory as well, that you know the
first time you've had to face some sort of serious
(32:19):
adversity injury wise, and you don't know, I'll have to
respond to it than to lash out because everything has
been a better Roses, Matt, great stuff, dude. Love listening
to your show, uh flag watching on NFL Network as well.
Can't wait to hear you call some Charger games in
the very near future. Appreciate you being our guests. I
always love coming on, Doug, Thanks for having me. Man. Man,
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the hell are we doing as people? I saw this idea.
I just tweeted about it, like, look, I'm apparent I
have two freshmen in high school. They go to two
different schools. Uh. One of my children was in the
(33:46):
advanced math class when she was in seventh grade in
public school, and I saw the story where there's a
framework of of something that hasn't that yet to be
passed in California, they would eliminate the high achieving math
levels based upon ability in middle school and and um.
(34:11):
And it's because there's a disparity of of the students
are Asian eight percent or white, four percent are are
black or Hispanic or whatever. Um. Anyway, the percentages are
overwhelmingly Asian, and so somehow that population has to be
punished and set to like general population to be like
(34:35):
it's it's like we say, like stop Asian hate, Like
one could not admire a an ethnicity anymore in the
state in which I grew up. And then the Asian population,
you know, it's like when we moved to California from Connecticut,
we lived in Irvine, which is um which is there's
(34:57):
a high density of of Asians there and it's an
incredible school system, mostly because those parents make their kids study.
That's really what it comes down to. They're about family
and about education and about the arts and in that order, right,
and yet you're gonna have like, look, if you had
(35:19):
a kid in public school, in middle school, you're gonna
have some regardless of color of skin or ethnicity, you
have kids that just won't do the work. And what
you weed out by the high ability, high achievers kids.
As you get those kids, those kids go into their classrooms,
they don't want to work, they don't want to work.
We can't make you, but we can at least reward
the kids that have the ability, that do want to
(35:41):
work hard and can be pushed. It's a hard math class.
I know my daughter went through it. She did not
advance even though because she gotta be minus on her
last quarter report. Car right, Like if you have to
have like a have an eighty five or above an
all four quarters and she had like an eighty three,
she need to advance. It's the next year. It was
really hard, and she's a good kid and a good
(36:04):
student in middle school. But like, look, that's what do
you teach kids. What's the point of achieving something if
there's no reward for it? All right, let's get to
a game. This is game time time. I'm the Doug
Gottlieb Ship dep cars. The things you have to look
(36:26):
forward to as your child matriculates through Southern California school exactly,
I'm a little frustrated though, that rather than penalizing the
high achievers, we don't try to do something to bring
up the level of everybody else. Um. I know, it's
easier said than done. Um I think, I think again.
You're you. You're operating a world where people are like you, like, okay,
(36:48):
you got there just between kids, and sometimes some families
do not value education the way that that we do.
That you just can't. And it's like it's like the
old horse analogy, right, like you can only go to
the whip so many times. Anyway, what do you got
all right, John Ramos? What game are we playing today? Alright?
Doug Gottlieb. Guess who just became the highest paid center
(37:12):
in the NFL. Oh I saw this. Uh it's what's
his name? He's got a great name from the Detroit Lions.
I get a half credit there, right, you do, absolutely,
Lions and Frank right now. By the way, fun fact,
he was the first ever pick in the Mat Patricia era.
Obviously we are now in the Dan Campbell era. But
the Lions signed right now to a four year contract
(37:33):
extension linking in with the organization through fifty four million bucks.
That makes the twenty four year old, the league's highest
paid center and an an annual average value of thirteen
point five million dollars. Well, look, it's pretty obvious how
Detroit wants to build. They want to build from the
inside out. And they're doing a very good job through
(37:54):
the draft and now resigning right now and open up
some money right and and also giving some protection for
off who they are presumably investing in as well. So
do guess who is exploring quarterbacks to bring in for
O t s and training camps? Um? Oh, the Packers.
(38:14):
That is correct. They have begun exploring quarterbacks they can
add to their roster. Obviously Aaron Rodgers disgruntled. The only
other quarterback not named Aaron Rodgers is Jordan's love on
the roster, So they need to bring somebody in given
the uncertainty the franchise is facing. Well, I mean, look,
the truth is it's not really they need camp arms.
(38:36):
Everybody needs camp arms. Nobody goes to just two guys,
and right now, if you only have one, you're definitely
gonna need more guys. I don't think it's that biggest
story if you look at it in totality, is game
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I apologize my rant about the public school system in
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Poolhols was d f aide that's designated for assignment. I
have lots of thoughts on that one, um, lots of
thoughts on them that I was sharing with you throughout
the show. I can only tell you though, that what's curious.
What's curious is that Albert pool Holes it was the
first ballot Hall of Famer, a great hitter um and
(01:15):
and obviously that signing did not prove fruitful in in
almost anyway. Like it's it's one of those things where
the angels will will will die on the hill of Hey,
we draw three. We drew three million people a year
when he was here, even though we didn't win a
playoff series. But the fact is that before Albert pool
(01:35):
Holes and after our pools they drew three million people
a year. They don't have their own network. I guess
maybe it creates some in roads and maybe a little
bit more money from their rs n s, but not
a ton. It was a bad signing. There's just no
other way around it. But it was not he was
not they were not the highest bidders, and the Cardinals
(01:56):
played it completely correctly. So there's a lot of a
lot of stuff kind of to get to there. But
cutting a guy on May six who isn't productive, I'm
not trying to defend his level of productivity, but right
when before he was about to face a picture whom
he dominated, who has dominated previously, and oh yeah, by
the way, like, if you're gonna cut a guy like that,
(02:18):
if he's going to retire. Then you say, hey, we're
gonna do this in a week, let's have a couple
of special games for Albert Pools. They didn't. It tells
you all you need to know. Let me start though
with this story. So the um Aaron Rodgers saga continues.
And I think the great thing about this this network
(02:41):
is that from Clay in the Morning to Dan to
Colin to me right, you have four very different not
just unique styles of doing a show, but you also
this is not. One of the things I didn't like
when I was at ESPN was the car wash effect.
(03:04):
And I understand that many of you, and the way
we were always taught as radio guys is like, look,
something happened previously in the day, even on the same
radio network. It doesn't matter. You have a distant, different listener.
The problem with it is if you don't have unique interviews,
you don't have a unique show. And oh yeah, by
(03:26):
the way, once you get to the third or fourth interview,
a lot of times the guys get punchy and they
just want to get it done more than anything. So
what's great is my guest booker is different than Colin's
guest booker is different than Dan's guest booker. Do we
all work for the same company, Do we have a
(03:46):
boss who tries to integrate everything kind of together? Sure?
But you know Clay had the president on the last president.
You know Colin has had on some of his own
own kind of unique guest. Dan, by my estimation, he's
long standing been now only the best interviewer in the
(04:07):
business and sports radio, but he has different relationships and
will put different people on than than Colin or Clay
or even me. He can in his reach like Dan,
obviously he's done everything, and then the people we have
honor different than the So what I love about this
is you have a diversity not just of voices and styles,
but also of guests. Adam Schefter, of course works at
(04:28):
the ESPN where Dan, me Colin all used to work,
was on with Dan this morning. Now remember here's his
initial tweet, and then of course he was on NFL
Live after this tweet on Draft Day that's a week
ago today. This is what happened while we were doing
this show. Rating m v P. Aaron Rodgers is so
disgrunted with the Green Bay Packers that he has told
(04:48):
some within the organization that he does not feel that
does not want to return to the team league and
team sources told ESPN on Thursday, this is Adam Schefter
earlier this morning. This is an accumulation all during the
off season of just listening to people talk and observing.
And if we go back to the NFC Championship game,
(05:09):
and it sounds almost like he's saying goodbye to Green Bay.
And so you're antenna is up, and I'm just telling you.
Throughout the course of the season, there was rarely a
week that went by where I didn't hear something about
Aaron Rodgers. And on Draft Day there's a report that
morning from Paul Allen out in Minneapolis that the Forts
made a draft offer, which they didn't make an offer.
(05:29):
They never made an offer. And the other people saying
that the Fort is called. And I said, how long
until it gets out that Aaron Rodgers wants that? Is
it next week? Is it next when he doesn't show
to the o t A s is it next month?
When he isn't it's going to come out. What does
it matter if it comes out now or next week
or next month. And so so you chose to break
(05:52):
the news on Draft day that is actually that is
absolutely accurate. Correct, But it wasn't something that you got
information about. No, No, there was nothing that morning that
came in said to me, yeah, he wants out. You
should report this. Like it was going on all off season.
There was more and more talk, and now the story
(06:12):
to Beanna Rodgers talking. I said, you know what, this
isn't gonna wait much longer. Let's just go. And it
just happened to be drafted. Just happened to be drafting.
I if you believe that I have um, I have
ocean front property in the state of Kansas for you.
I like Adam, he's as respected as anybody in the business.
(06:36):
But the covering of his tracks poorly, right, Like this
is like dudes who commit a crime and then it's
it's not the crime, it's the cover up that ends
up getting them caught. Well, we didn't actually find any blood,
but we found excessive amounts of bleach and acid where
(06:56):
we thought there might be blood. Like you're covering things up. Oh,
and I didn't get the information Baron Rodgers or his camp,
and I didn't get the information from the packers. Of
course you didn't get it from the packers. I think
the packers want people to know that Aaron Rodgers doesn't
want to come back to the Green Bay Packers like that.
That's not even and I've heard from people that that
did they think the Green Bay Packers linked this? Why
(07:17):
would they do that? How would they do that? There
is only two possible believable scenarios. One is that Adam
Schefter did this to draw attention to himself and the
shows that he's on and the NFL draft himself. That
is it. That is plausible, plausible. The other possibility right.
(07:40):
The other possibility is that um is that Aaron Rodgers
wanted this out on draft day as an epic to
the packers, also plausible. Did we find out if either
of which are true. It felt a little bit more
like the former than the latter, but that doesn't actually
(08:02):
mean it was the former, not the ladder. No, I
didn't get any new information. There was nothing new. This
is just an accumulation. Just happened to be drafting. I
was born at night, not last night. I like Adam.
But the covering of the tracks, the I don't know
how anybody could think that Aaron Rodgers would put this
(08:23):
out there. Why would anybody think that anybody other than
me it wasn't one source tell me this is over
an off season of accumulation of information. Look, he's right,
there was an off season of stuff. But to only
report it at that very moment, on that very day,
it's not even it's it's so highly unlikely that it
(08:49):
just it almost becomes laughable. It does. This is former
teammate John coon on Aaron situation. If I used my
gut and I used everything that I said, it that
I hear from the Packers organization, it makes me feel really,
really good if I use the football business acumen and
see the tough spot that the Packers are in right
(09:11):
now with that first round pick that they used last
year on Jordan's love, that's what makes me pull back
a little bit. I still think it's somewhere around that
Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Packers this year.
It's John Coo. I've heard all kinds of scenarios. None
even makes sense not trading him to Denver. Why would
(09:35):
they wave the white flag on a season where they
went to the NFC Championship game the past two years,
this time having home field advantage and thinking they've improved
their weaknesses at cornerback and at offensive line. I think
logically I cut out a motion of it. I tell
you what I really think, what I really hear, what
I really know. Two other quarterbacks have floated out wanting
(09:58):
to be traded. Deshaun Watson grant it, it can't be
traded now, but he wasn't being traded previously. And Russell
Wilson and many others have offered up the possibility of
wanting to go elsewhere because they couldn't. They didn't like
decisions that were made by the front office. Congrats. Be
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio a app Doug
Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. So Mark fine sand covers
the Angels and all things baseball. So the Angels are
releasing Albert Pools, the future Hall of Famer. Pools in
the final year of a two d and fifty three
(10:43):
million dollar contract. Um, he's not actually like if you
look at Albert pool holss deal, it actually doesn't even
end when it ends. That's the that's the worst part
about it is it does and actually end when it ends.
(11:03):
Keep in mind, this is a guy who signed a deal,
um and it's it's thirty million dollars here in his
last year. I believe he's still paid after this for
like making appearances for the team. That's what's really weird
about it, right, It's there, three or four months away
from getting out of this contract and they still, you know,
(11:28):
they still want to get out of it. We'll go
to our resident Angel expert, Gavin. Gavin, what do you
think of of the timing of releasing our pools. I
thought it was very weird. I really thought, you know,
whether or not the Angels would do well this season,
they would want to get him further up the record books.
(11:48):
So that's why this comes as a stunning moment. Do
you remember where you were when the trade happened or
that the signing happened, because I do. In I remember
the news coming. I was at a star Bucks in Fullerton,
and I remember telling the barista. The barista couldn't care
at all, but I was like, oh my god, the
Angels just got Albert pooh Hoole's coming off. Then m
(12:10):
v P season again, I think, and h just amazing.
He was hitting with five home runs played appearances. They
started twenty of the first twenty nine games, and he
had two games at d H. Yes, John Ramos, Yeah,
but nobody. I I remember when he was signed to
and I remember sports talk radio and maybe we were
talking about it, maybe the show I was on before
(12:31):
was whatever. But nobody that I talked to her so ever,
said you know what, that ten years gonna be great.
I need nobody thought that he would fill that full
ten with with Albert Pool hosts like numbers. I mean,
this is not shocking to me that he's batting on
the decline. I mean I think they knew that going in.
(12:51):
They just hoped the first four years, which I thought
he did very well, we're going to be enough to
get into the playoffs and to win a World Series.
And he just never never to realize. Look, here's what
happened to the Angels, and people don't want to you know, everybody,
they didn't win a playoff series or whatever. They were
the best team in baseball in two thousand fourteen. They
were sixty four and they were beaten by the kan
(13:12):
City Worlds in three games. And the Royals, remember came
from behind, I believe, to beat the Rangers in the
wild Card game, remember they used to be the uh
it was the wild Card Game. And but the first
two games of that series against the Royals in Anaheim,
the problem wasn't the starting pitching. It was they lost
(13:33):
in extra innings three to two and four to one.
But it's all both in eleven innings. So yeah, they
didn't hit and the Royals went to the playoffs. But
it was more that's baseball sort of thing, right, I mean,
they were a great baseball team, and after that the
next year, uh, the next year they only won eighty five.
They won in his first uh three years there, they
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won eighty nine and seventy eight, and then you know
they the roof kind of fell in after a while.
But also Trout would be hurt in some big instances,
and their pitching wasn't good enough. And that's really kind
of what it came down to, is there. Their pitching
just wasn't good enough. Now, could they have used some
(14:17):
of the money they paid to our pools for better pitching, yes,
but money wasn't really the issue. It was just complete
mismanagement and then a lot of bad luck. Right, you
have their top overall prospect killed, uh in a car accident.
You have another starting pitcher who dies of the drug overdose.
You know you had uh, you have other pictures who
(14:39):
just fizzle, and many who have gotten hurt. They had
massive injuries to their pitching staff. Everything that possibly could
have gone wrong with the pitching staff has gone wrong
with the Angels pitching staff. Pools, meanwhile, has never really
been their best player. It just has in terms of
wins above replacement. He has never been their best player.
(14:59):
That's the more stunnything. The stunning thing is not how
it ended. The stunning thing is how it wasn't really
ever all that great. Right like in the year in
which in the year in which they were the best
team in baseball, Albert Pools hit to seventy two o
b P three right home runs. He was good, but
(15:25):
Mike Trott was the better player, you know. And remember
they had the Josh Hamilton tobacco as well. That all
that all happened all about the kind of the same
time they gave Josh Hamilton's a five year, five million
dollar deal, Vernon Wells Um seven years, one s C. J.
Wilson five years, seventies seven million. None of them really
panned out. Be sure to catch the live edition of
(15:47):
The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific Doug Gotlips Show here on Fox Sports Trader.
We'll get to bat money Smith in a second. Um. Yeah,
look it, it's all about timing, right. Even what's interesting
is Alex Rodriguez. I think they announced on like a
(16:08):
Sunday his last game would be a Thursday. They couldn't
get him out of the building fast enough, but even
they gave Yankee fans a little bit of heads up. Hey,
we're gonna you know, we're gonna get rid of this
guy here in um in a couple of in a
couple of days. Just again, just a heads up. Meanwhile,
the Angels, I think it was last night, right, last
(16:32):
night they lost. They've lost three in a row now
to the uh three in a row, to the to
the Rays. But it was more that the Rays. I
guess they were starting where they were starting a left
handed pitcher, somebody who had he had dominated and he
wasn't in the lineup, and maybe he lost his mind
(16:52):
and started throwing bats around. I don't know. Matt money
Smith UH joined us on The Dug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports, Raydo Money. What do you think of
the timing of the Apper Pool's release. Well, I would
guess that they probably, you know, went to Albert. I
mean he's I mean, you've been around a long time,
you know, you get around some people that have an
(17:12):
aura about them or they're just supremely kind to everyone
they come in contact with. And and you know, my
limited interactions with Pools were like that, just as likable
as superstar as I've ever been around. And I'm sure
the Angels felt the same way. And that would lead
me to believe they went to him and said, hey,
this ain't working out. We can't have you, you know,
(17:33):
barking at Joe if you're trying to stat Chase when
he's trying to build a team that we know you're
not gonna be part of long term. So do you
want to walk away? Or And I guess that probably
got contentious and this was the last straw and they're like, fine,
we're done. Because I've got to believe they would have tried. Look,
I remember when they signed Albert and I brought this up.
(17:53):
I said, everybody was, you know, saying what a disaster
this deal is. You've got to think about the last
five years, and I said, look, the Angels TV deal
is up. The Angels are not the Dodgers. They don't
sell those kind of tickets. They don't move the needle
like that. But if you can sell Albert Pools and
three thousand hits and six on her home runs and
all that, you're probably gonna get a good TV deal.
(18:14):
And what happened. They signed Albert Pools. They get a
two billion dollar deal from Fox and Prime Ticket for
their local TV. Little did we know Mike Trout was
going to turn out to maybe be the greatest baseball
player that ever lived. Um, and they wouldn't have needed
to do it. But I do think it's served that purpose.
And I think the Angels two billion dollars in her pocket.
(18:36):
Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, but
but but May six like, why wouldn't you do it?
Why wouldn't you do it? Hey? Man, Like, we're gonna
have one last weekend at the Big A and then
we're gonna, you know, then we'll release you, you know
next weekend. Well, we'll find a big series too. We'll
put you on the d L for a couple of
weeks and then one last big series. Why now why?
(18:59):
They probably that's what they wanted to do, and Albert
probably said, no, I'm not gonna go quietly. I'm gonna
go to my scribes that I've known for twenty years
in this game, and I'm gonna leak that you got
I want to play you guys won't play me, and
it's gonna get ugly. And so I think here, it
gives the a. It gives the Angels the opportunity to
essentially wield the sword right and and release. We love Albert,
(19:23):
we appreciate Albert. That's why we're giving him his release
right now, so he can seek other opportunity kind of stuff. Right.
If he's not gonna go out gracefully, we're going to
force him to go out gracefully by saying what a
great person he is and how much we appreciate him.
That way, they control the message. He doesn't if it
got sideways on him here. Yeah, yeah, it never ends well, Doug.
(19:45):
You know that it doesn't. You know, it ended well
for David Ortiz and that's it. It was. It's it
doesn't matter the sport, right, It's just it is almost
impossible for it to end how the player wants it
to end, you know, especially the super ours that we
have grown to love and appreciated, the icons of their era,
because they hang on too long, you know, because they're
(20:06):
paid to hang on too long. And why would you
walk away from thirty million bucks a year? Um, give
me your take on the Aaron Rodgers situation. UM, you know,
I don't. I don't buy. I think he leaked it.
I think it's a I think it was a horrible
thing that he did. Um. I'm you know, I'm someone
who's been part of the draft for ten years. Now
I get to go to the combine and I get
(20:28):
to meet these kids and I get to see the
excitement on their face and and them realizing this dream
they've had their entire lives, and these three four days
should be all about them, and it should be a
celebration of their rising from the amateur ranks of the
professional ranks and achieving a dream that one percent of
one percent and one percent and one percent of the
football playing public gets to realize. And he cast a
(20:50):
pall over all of that, and shame on him for
doing that, and shame on his agent for doing that,
because they wanted to fast track this thing because you
know there's no sense in trading for Rogers now, you
know you're not going to get those draft assets until
next year. If you're the Packers, you've already paid him
seven million bucks in a roster bonus, And why why
would that sunk cost? Would you move on with the
(21:11):
raining m v P and a roster that looks like
it's the best in the NFC along with the box.
This doesn't make any sense. So I totally think it
was the Rogers camp that leaked this and tried to
force their hand to see if someone would freak out
right and overpay and give him a bunch of draft
picks so they could move them. And on the on
the draft to add Adam schefterlin on Dan Patrick today
(21:32):
and said like, all I just nobody called me. There
was no breaking if this is an offseason where I
accumulated all this information and I just so happened to
put it out on draft day like yeah, no, no,
don't buy it. It's it's all Rogers and again, um,
and I mean, look it, it's it's been harsh shirt,
but shame on him. That's it's just it's it's when
(21:54):
you it's funny when I came on Doug and you
were talking about a Rod, I wasn't quite sure which
direction you were going to go because I brought this
up at reeks of a Rod, you know, leak in
his contract information at the start of the World Series,
and everyone's like, what a jerk, it's the World Series, man,
Just wait a week and then we'll find out that
you're going to the Yankees. All right, just enough? And
and and I think you know it's a Rod and
(22:15):
a Rod coincidence. We all know he's been a bit
of an abrasive personality. You never hear people talk about
Aaron Rodgers like they talk about Tom Brady, you know,
or some of these other quarterbacks that have guys that
will move to Tampa to play with them, and Gronk
and in a b and you know, you hear outside
of they are to play with you, don't. I just
don't feel like we hear that about a Rod, you know,
about Alex about Aaron Rodgers. So, um, yeah, I thought
(22:38):
it was I thought it was a bad look for him,
and I think it's a bad and super selfish move. Um,
just because you know, I want to celebrate those three
kids and I want I want them to have that
weekend be all about them and their families and enjoy
and I feel like expect. I mean, look, if you're
Eric Stokes, yeah, this should be a day that man
is is unlike any other. I'm sure it was. But
(23:00):
when your name gets read by the Packers and and
everyone's like, well, that's not gonna make Rogers happy. Another
corner in the first round. Thanks a lot, Aaron. You
know that that should have been Eric Eric Stokes corner.
They could use corner help. It's a passing league. This
guy ran four three, played in the SEC. He's got length,
he's got sized. What a great draft pick. Instead, it
(23:21):
was well, Aaron's gonna be pissed about this one. And
that's on Aaron Rodgers. Matt Money spent joining us on
the Doug got Lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, let's let's get closer to home. Obviously, Uh,
you're the voice of the Chargers. Um, I feel like
you talked about the roster of the Packers and we
we everybody likes what they saw from Justin Herbert. But
(23:43):
let's not go crazy. He's only been in the year
league for a year. It's got a whole new coaching staff.
But it does feel like he has an incredible team
around him. Yeah, and you know he I'll tell you, Doug,
he played behind the worst offensive line in the league
last year. And as I was kind of you know,
doing and some podcasts and TV and stuff getting ready
for the draft, a lot of people and I found
(24:04):
myself kind of engaging with some folks and it was good.
It was spirited. But they were like, you have to
take an O L in the first round. You have
to take a half, they have to take tackle. If
you don't, it's a failure of a draft. Now, look
it broke that way, right. They had a top ten
players sitting at thirteen. Some people think the best left
tackle in the draft. And I said, but wait a minute,
let's not forget Justin Herbert threw yards and thirty one
touchdowns behind the worst offensive line in the league. So
(24:27):
if you can just move it to average, if you
can just move it to the middle as opposed to
dead laugh, think about how much better he's gonna be.
So don't feel like you're trapped into and painted into
this corner where you have to draft for need Um.
Now did work out and and they now have what
I think is league average to may to be one
of the better offensive lines with the free agent signings
Linsley at center, Filer, you got Brian Bulaga, who they
(24:50):
feel like last year had an outlier injury season. Um,
and now they got Slater, so that's gonna be a
huge upgrade. The issues that plagued then laugh Mr Chunk
Melbourne Ingram was almost they missed almost the entire season.
Derwin missed the whole season. Their corners were never healthy. Um.
I feel like they got better depth now. But at
(25:11):
the same time, they lost five games that they had
leads in the fourth quarter, and I mean some were
like the Saints games. They were up with two minutes left,
then the Saints tiedle with a field goal and Justin
Herbert had him in field goal range for a game
winning kick that missed. Uh. They were up three on
the on the Chiefs and the final two minutes of
a game that Patrick Mahomes ends up tying up that
game and winning in overtime. Like, there were so many
(25:33):
of those, just bad decisions, bad breaks, mismanaging the clock,
bad special teams that we know is historically one of
the worst special teams units in in NFL history, you
feel like if you could just get that back to
the middle um from all the way at the edge
of one of the worst I do think this is
one of the better rosters and one of the better teams,
(25:54):
And a lot of people are excited about their new
head coach, Brandon Staley. Doug ot Lip show here on
Foxible all right, now do the Rams well, I think
if you just go, if you just go quarterback production right,
and if if you're willing to to kind of subscribe
to the idea. And I am that Sean McVeigh is
one of the best play callers in the league. When
(26:14):
it comes to offense, you're gonna have a hard time out.
You know, if you're a defensive coordinate, better be super sharp.
So it was clear that Jared Goff could not do
everything Sean McVeigh wanted to do. And you know, the
Chargers played him two years ago, and just watch and
talking to Gus Bradley before that game and him talking
about just the fit, the way he uses motion. Some
(26:37):
of the plays you just don't quite see coming because
there's always a wrinkle. I think we have Stafford back
there instead of Golf that's gonna make such a big difference. Um,
we've seen them plug and play guys, right, Josh Reynolds, Jefferson,
didn't matter who the back was, Malcolm Brown, Todd Gurley.
It's just kind of it's very Shanahan asked, Right, the
names don't really matter. It's almost like the system. And
(27:00):
I hate doing that, right because everybody's so show you
gotta have talent on your roster. But it does seem
like in the case of McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, the
scheme really is, Um, is that important to their success
when you drop you know, when you drop a Stafford there,
and then you flip it to the other side of
the ball, and you've got the best player in the
NFL and Aaron Donald on the front end and Jalen
(27:21):
Ramsay the best corner in the league on the back.
And that is just a nightmare, a nightmare to deal with.
So I I do think they're the best team in
the NFC West and and I expect big things out
of them. Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Matt money Smith is our is our guest, all right,
uh um helped me out with the Lebron thing. Okay,
(27:42):
so he says this ankle injury is the worst injury
he's ever suffered now for for his money, he's right,
you know, he hasn't suffered many injuries. But he said
he will never be the same and ever be the same.
And then he lashes out at whoever came up with
the playing game idea when they're not in the playing game.
But then he doesn't play a couple of games and
(28:04):
they're gonna play their way into the playing game. What's
really going on with le Bront I think, I think
similar to what we talked about with Pools, but certainly
nowhere near that dire as it stands right now. Um,
I think it's the worst injury he's ever sustained because
he's old, you know, and he's got all those minutes
and he's got all that where on that body, and
(28:25):
it's not recovering perhaps like he's I think we've all
that are old enough to recognize go through it. And
it's weird, you know, like for whatever reason, you know,
if you're someone who is active or athletic or whatever
you may do to participate in in games or hobbies
or activities, there's a certain point in your life when
(28:47):
your body just all of a sudden, you feel like
betrays you and you're like, hey, wait a minute, man,
why can't why can't I go play golf? Uh for
the next two weeks because every time I think backs
when the back is tweaked, I remember getting this injury
ten years ago, and I back out there in the afternoon.
I can just stretch it out, I said, I ad Bill,
I'm good. And I think that's probably what's going with
Ammed Lebron is injury, an injury that he would be
(29:09):
back from already. I mean, we know you said it.
It is probably the worst injury because the guy never
misses games. He would fight through everything, played through everything,
never get hurt in the first place. And so I
think this is maybe him kind of getting to look
at it at father time and saying, man, I don't
like this. I do not like this at all, especially
when I gotta play. And I mean looking at the
playing game, right, if you've got to do it, if
(29:31):
you have a playing game, and you've got to start
thinking about Steph Curry and that and and facing elimination
against the guy who can drop sixty on you if
he gets hot in your defense. Thing right, I can
see why he'd blast out and be all frustrated. Yeah.
I my thinking, my thought of it as this Matt
Money spent our guest I gotlip show, Fox Sports Radio.
(29:52):
My thought of it is, you know, we all have
we all know people who just lived those blessed lives
where everything works out in their favor, and then when
they those same people something happens in terms of adversity,
they don't know how to deal with it. I think
that's Lebron in terms of injuries, you know, is that
he he legitimately has no idea how to deal with
(30:13):
being injured because he's never been injured before. And and
and look at high ankle sprain is when instead of
like you're the outside of your foot going under the
inside of your foot, it's the inside of your foot
going over the outside of your foot. Right, That's the way,
and everybody has like, look, it takes a lot longer,
it is really painful, it does suck nobody's but he
(30:33):
had to know that he wasn't going to play in
those games and that his team was gonna lose. Otherwise,
why I talk about a playing game, which if you
just win games, you're not playing in anyway. Yeah, And
I think it's also disappointment in the roster, right, I mean,
it's it's disappointment that, you know, Anthony Davis on his
own shifty enough to carry this team to some of
the wins for the teams that they lost to that
(30:55):
are the dregs of the Eastern Western Conference that they're
they're you know, stringing together losses when they should at
least be able to kind of hover around five hundred. UM.
So I think there's frustration there, you know, if you're
you know, if you're if you're that guy that that
feels like, hey man, my back is hurting from carrying
you guys all this time. Can you just give me
(31:15):
two weeks? Can you give me two weeks where you're
just kind of bawling and and stepping up where I
don't have to freak out. So I think there's that
frustration um as well. And I think, you know, I
think he maybe sees the landscape and the path as
being a little more perilous then last year, you know,
And and look we're going through with the Dodgers right now,
(31:37):
where everybody mentioned asterisk asterisk, you know, at sixty games
season bubble playoffs, no home field or or road trips.
And and I wonder if he looks at that with
the Lakers like yeah and the bubble, you know, weird
playoff season, no home field of band, no travel you know,
thinking about trying to just validate that that run to
(31:58):
a championship by than one back to back, and probably
recognizes this is probably his best shot. Um. Like I said,
if it's starting to slip away, help you know, health
wise and activity wise with his body because of his
age in minutes and where. Um. But you know, and
I like your theory as well, that you know the
first time you've had to face some sort of serious
(32:19):
adversity injury wise, and you don't know, I'll have to
respond to it than to lash out because everything has
been a better Roses, Matt, great stuff, dude. Love listening
to your show, uh flag watching on NFL Network as well.
Can't wait to hear you call some Charger games in
the very near future. Appreciate you being our guests. I
always love coming on, Doug, Thanks for having me. Man. Man,
that's uh, that's Matt Money Smith, Petris and Money. That's yes,
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get your podcast, Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What
the hell are we doing as people? I saw this idea.
I just tweeted about it, like, look, I'm apparent I
have two freshmen in high school. They go to two
different schools. Uh. One of my children was in the
(33:46):
advanced math class when she was in seventh grade in
public school, and I saw the story where there's a
framework of of something that hasn't that yet to be
passed in California, they would eliminate the high achieving math
levels based upon ability in middle school and and um.
(34:11):
And it's because there's a disparity of of the students
are Asian eight percent or white, four percent are are
black or Hispanic or whatever. Um. Anyway, the percentages are
overwhelmingly Asian, and so somehow that population has to be
punished and set to like general population to be like
(34:35):
it's it's like we say, like stop Asian hate, Like
one could not admire a an ethnicity anymore in the
state in which I grew up. And then the Asian population,
you know, it's like when we moved to California from Connecticut,
we lived in Irvine, which is um which is there's
(34:57):
a high density of of Asians there and it's an
incredible school system, mostly because those parents make their kids study.
That's really what it comes down to. They're about family
and about education and about the arts and in that order, right,
and yet you're gonna have like, look, if you had
(35:19):
a kid in public school, in middle school, you're gonna
have some regardless of color of skin or ethnicity, you
have kids that just won't do the work. And what
you weed out by the high ability, high achievers kids.
As you get those kids, those kids go into their classrooms,
they don't want to work, they don't want to work.
We can't make you, but we can at least reward
the kids that have the ability, that do want to
(35:41):
work hard and can be pushed. It's a hard math class.
I know my daughter went through it. She did not
advance even though because she gotta be minus on her
last quarter report. Car right, Like if you have to
have like a have an eighty five or above an
all four quarters and she had like an eighty three,
she need to advance. It's the next year. It was
really hard, and she's a good kid and a good
(36:04):
student in middle school. But like, look, that's what do
you teach kids. What's the point of achieving something if
there's no reward for it? All right, let's get to
a game. This is game time time. I'm the Doug
Gottlieb Ship dep cars. The things you have to look
(36:26):
forward to as your child matriculates through Southern California school exactly,
I'm a little frustrated though, that rather than penalizing the
high achievers, we don't try to do something to bring
up the level of everybody else. Um. I know, it's
easier said than done. Um I think, I think again.
You're you. You're operating a world where people are like you, like, okay,
(36:48):
you got there just between kids, and sometimes some families
do not value education the way that that we do.
That you just can't. And it's like it's like the
old horse analogy, right, like you can only go to
the whip so many times. Anyway, what do you got
all right, John Ramos? What game are we playing today? Alright?
Doug Gottlieb. Guess who just became the highest paid center
(37:12):
in the NFL. Oh I saw this. Uh it's what's
his name? He's got a great name from the Detroit Lions.
I get a half credit there, right, you do, absolutely,
Lions and Frank right now. By the way, fun fact,
he was the first ever pick in the Mat Patricia era.
Obviously we are now in the Dan Campbell era. But
the Lions signed right now to a four year contract
(37:33):
extension linking in with the organization through fifty four million bucks.
That makes the twenty four year old, the league's highest
paid center and an an annual average value of thirteen
point five million dollars. Well, look, it's pretty obvious how
Detroit wants to build. They want to build from the
inside out. And they're doing a very good job through
(37:54):
the draft and now resigning right now and open up
some money right and and also giving some protection for
off who they are presumably investing in as well. So
do guess who is exploring quarterbacks to bring in for
O t s and training camps? Um? Oh, the Packers.
(38:14):
That is correct. They have begun exploring quarterbacks they can
add to their roster. Obviously Aaron Rodgers disgruntled. The only
other quarterback not named Aaron Rodgers is Jordan's love on
the roster, So they need to bring somebody in given
the uncertainty the franchise is facing. Well, I mean, look,
the truth is it's not really they need camp arms.
(38:36):
Everybody needs camp arms. Nobody goes to just two guys,
and right now, if you only have one, you're definitely
gonna need more guys. I don't think it's that biggest
story if you look at it in totality, is game
time on the duck got lap show, devant to pocket
a couple of them. Will come back to two some more.
I apologize my rant about the public school system in
(38:57):
the story I saw took away from some of your time.
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