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Doug talks about how unfair it has been that members of the family have been left to give medical updates on Damar Hamlin.  Doug gives his read on the situation on FS1's Undisputed between Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless. Doug chooses among deserving candidates for most annoying today.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all right, this is the Doug Godly Show.
Here's in the bonus with Doug Godlin, got leave show
in the bonus on Fox Sports Radio, the I Heart Radio.
Actually do I have to say Fox Sports Radio because
it's not actually on the rate? Sure, okay, whatever, Um,

(00:24):
we got a lot to get to today. And as
you have come to enjoy about the podcast, it gives
us the chance to have real talk. All right, real talk.
I love when people go to be honest, but you
weren't honest previously. Anyway, here's real talk. We don't really
have an update on tomorrow, Hamlet. And it's the weirdest

(00:49):
and yet most relatable situation I can remember. And and
and here's here's what I'm saying. Um, yesterday, now she
last night Cincinnati time, Uh, Damars uncle in an interview
with he did a couple of different interviews. I know

(01:10):
he did one with the ESPN, but with some other
local stations. Told them that at first he said that
DeMar's heart had actually stopped twice twice, right, and then
today and he was told there were some improvements right
then today again, That's what was echoed, with the exception

(01:32):
of the fact that medical personnel said, no, that's not
actually the case. Uh, he was only resuscitated one time.
So here's the simple read on it. And obviously the
hospital not sharing information is two things. One, everybody's scared
to get ensued, right, I don't want get You want

(01:54):
to get sued. I want to get sued. Like, no leaks,
no information. It's not anybody's business to be honest with you.
Um and too though I am somebody who believes in
the good in humans and roots for the best in people,
wouldn't it be reasonable to think reasonable to think that
if there was really really good news, they would share it, right,

(02:17):
And maybe it's you don't want to get false hope
you don't want but I mean nothing in terms of
press conference, here's the news. Here's all we know is
he's in critical condition, still intibated. Maybe some signs of improvement,
but what does that mean on what scale? The signs
of improvement with no real scale, with no real prognostication

(02:39):
as to what's going to happen, is a lot like
and I see this on websites all the time. Do
you want to sign said player for a dollar or
for a hundred million dollars? What there's a difference there.
Do you want to trade said player, Go and trade him,
maybe what are you trading in return? Right? So he's

(03:00):
doing better, better than what he's doing. Great, he's gonna
be out of the hospital. We don't know anything, and
taking the word for it from from his uncle, God
bless his uncle apparently drove through a rainstorm from Pince
Pittsburgh to Cincinnati to be there with him. But we
got no idea about this dude, right, and we don't

(03:22):
know what he heard. And and here's here when I
say what he heard, I mean, obviously as men were
accused of listening and not hearing, right, what would you say,
I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention at all because you
were talking, you know. But I can only draw on
when my dad was sick before he died, was eight
years ago. So this is we're in a two thousand

(03:44):
twenty three. Now was that it was eight years ago?
Two thousand twenty two, So this is what two thousand
and I mean, I know what year was actually was
two thousand fourteen, right, So two thousand fourteen, um CBS
had moved me back east even though I knew and
I knew my father was was was ill, and the
cancer had melanoma and it had spread to his brain,

(04:07):
and I didn't know what all of that meant. He
had a gamma knife treatment. This may be way too
death deep in terms of the knowledge that you actually
care about outside the fact that I know you're respectful
of anybody's dad or parent or anybody who fights cancer. Uh,
it's a terrible, terrible disease. So I came back because

(04:28):
I was asking all these questions. You know, what's the
doctors saying, what's going on? You know, like, because the
last time I had gotten any information, I could only
get information if I went to the appointments myself. Case
in point April of two tho fourteen, I was still
living in southern California and my dad was getting the

(04:50):
gamma knife treatment. That's where they go in and they
zapped the cancer cells in your brain, okay, And so
I went to be with him for it. It was
at hog Hospital, right down the street from where I
lived at the time, and I went there to be
there with him, and I never forget that when I
walked in, they said, well, I was sitting with him,

(05:11):
and they said, we're not going to be able to
get all of it, and I said why. They said, well,
because we thought they were like nine or ten spots.
There's like twenty two spots and we can only kind
of get twenty. We can only get ten. And my
question was why can you only get ten and they said, well,
because what happens is you're creating even though you're killing
the cancer, you're creating almost like a scar scab inside

(05:33):
the brain. And like anywhere, when you zapp something, there's
gonna be blood, and the more you do, the more
likely there is to be a brain bleed, and that's
what we want to avoid. There's gonna be some blood,
but we don't want it to and he actually end
up dying of a brain bleed. But when I heard that,

(05:54):
and I heard the cancer had spread to his brain,
I was like, this sounds bad. Like n zapped the
cancer is, you know, it happens, it spreads. It's okay,
we got it localized. To hear my dad tell it.
This was just a bump in the road. But when
I walked in and then the doctor said that, I
actually saw fear in my dad's eyes for the first

(06:14):
time in my life, and that was not a good thing.
Fast forward to I think it was September or October.
Same year I had moved back east and I wasn't
getting a ton of information, and my bosses at the time,
we're like, just go and you need to spend a
day or two or whatever. Go spend time there and whatever.

(06:35):
So I fly out. I go to the doctors point
with my parents, and I remember the doctor saying, we
can't do experimental treatment if you have cancer in your brain, right,
So I you know, I listened, and what I heard
was that's it, right, make them as comfortable as possible,

(06:59):
and don't do your exercises every day. We'll try and
manage it. If something changes, if there's some sort of miracle,
maybe then but it's kind of it. My parents heard, well,
let's just go and find somebody who will do something
that they won't do. Now, that didn't stop me from

(07:22):
wanting to help them, making calls do we go overseas,
do we do whatever? There was the awkward conversation of hey, dad,
if you're in pain, like, why don't you try medical marijuana?
That's an all time or for me, yeah, it helps
your pain, you don't have to take drugs anyway. I
bring it up because family members want to hear what

(07:43):
they want to hear. Not all, but many of them do.
And there's always gonna be the family member that when
the parent kid And can you imagine if you're nephew,
if your son daughter is in the I see you intubated,
intibated me. It's not breathing on their own power that
somebody loses their mind over this. They just do. It's

(08:07):
very normal. That's what love does, unconditional love of a
parent or a friend or a family member, whatever. And
you hear things differently. My point is, and I think
it's really relatable, is that we all want information, right,
We want to know because we feel like that's what
always happens. Guy gets hurt, we get an update, comes

(08:28):
out of surgery, gonna make a full recovery, right, although
there's never the surgeon that comes out and goes, I
don't know, I got no idea, We've got none of that,
no prognostication, No hey, this is like, this is where
he's progressing, or it's not good. Nothing, And yes, my
mind wanders to a bad place when I hear that,

(08:50):
but it's also the understanding of I this is not
being disrespectful of his family members, but we can't ask
his family members or his marketing guy for an update
over his condition. So that's where we are. You're like,
you just said nothing. No, I said a lot of something,
but that we have nothing making sense, Chase too absolutely,

(09:16):
and and just to give context here, Doug within the hour,
so the Bills sent out a tweet Tamar remains in
the i c U and critical condition, with signs of
improvement noted yesterday and overnight. He's expected to remain under
intensive care as his health care team continues to monitor
and monitor and treat him. So signs of improvement, as

(09:38):
you said, is a scale, a signs of improvement from
what and what those These are such vague terms, it's
almost impossible to draw a conclusion. But to to your
greater point about trusting the information of family that have
been given information by doctors, I mean, I have a
story myself of my my mother passing away, and in

(10:01):
those crucial times when you're giving information that she's going
to die, it's just a matter of how comfortable can
we make things. Family members here different things in that,
and they they rushed to judgment because they're in such denial.
And I think it was so unfair for journalists to
to interview this uncle last night. God bless him for

(10:24):
granting the interview, but to take his information and put
up headlines uncle says this about medical condition. It's just unfair, Like,
where's the journalism in corroborating what the uncle said with
what people who actually know what they're talking about said
before you actually put it out as a report. That

(10:45):
to me, the journalism failed in that moment. It's not
the uncle's fault. God bless that guy. It's not the
marketing guy's fault either, by the way, that keeps granting interviews,
But we can't take this information as fact, and the
journalists and the news sources that are doing so are
failing in this moment. Yeah, I and and there's a

(11:10):
line from the American President remember that movie, Um, yeah,
I was that what's his face? Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas,
Michael Douglas, and who played Sydney Ellen Wade, the female
love interest Benning smoke show in them in that movie, right,
and that Benning had just this class and dignity and

(11:31):
attractive news like she was. That's a beautiful woman. Um.
But there's a line in there that says, in the
absence of leadership, people will listen to whoever yells the loudest.
I see that on TV today, something I want to
get into, and I hear that with this and the
it's the idea that I understand that the hospital doesn't

(11:56):
with HIPPA. They're very, very cautious of sharing things, and like, look,
we don't really understand. Things are touch and go, you know,
because because again what I hear is still intubated and
they flipped him over to help his lungs. That's because
the longer intubated, the more damage it does to your lungs.
I only know this from my kids when they were babies.

(12:18):
They were in the nick you and they were intibated
for a very short period of time. And again it's
a totally different scale, a totally different thing, and I understand.
But what I learned at that point in time was
when you're intubated, it's really really hard in your lungs.
They want to do that, they want you to breathe
on natural air as much as possible, but they're having
to help him breathe. Again, it doesn't mean anything grave,

(12:41):
it doesn't mean anything. I don't know. I'm not a doctor,
you know, but it's the all I know medically. So yeah,
this is a weird place that we're in. But again
I'm being critical of the hospital only because couldn't they
simply go all information will come to us. We're having

(13:02):
a press conference. There have no disrespect to any of
the family members, marketing agents, team league. Everyone is hoping
for a positive outcome, and when we have an update,
we will give it to you. But in the absence
of any of that, we're left kind of grasping at
things including can we get the agent, can we get

(13:28):
the marketing guy and get their opinion of things? And
and just no to that people that do what we
do for a living. If you here today or if
you've heard in the last twenty four hours, I'm encouraged
by what we're hearing about his condition, that they're being
encouraged by second hand information from emotional family members. That
that isn't an official that isn't an official capacity here

(13:52):
and and and I didn't And here's let me also
give the uncle credit. Is that wasn't the first thing
out of his mouth, right, Like he didn't. It doesn't
feel like he wants to be the family spokesperson. This
is more about support and about his nephew and about
how they care and they're here for him, and how

(14:13):
and how thankful they are for the first responders and
the incredibly generous response from so many people around the
country when asked about it. Here's all I know, right,
But it's really not their job, right, just not, And
it's a it's well above all of our pay grade.

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All right, let me get to the another kind of
topic of the day, which is related. They're very much
related to this. Um. There's been a gigantic pushback over

(14:58):
Skip Bayliss's tweet then the two nights ago, right, A gigantic,
a gigantic pushback, and I've I've stated this and and
it has nothing to do I have zero relationship with
Skip Zero. I've texted with him a couple of times
about basketball things, but I don't we we don't have

(15:20):
any sort relationship. We don't have a negative relationship, we
don't have a positive relationship. We don't have a relationship.
We're not enemies, we're not friends. A right, Um, I
don't really have a relationship. I don't have a relationship
with Shannon either. Shannon is a guy that when you
run into him, is always very kind, but I don't
have I've literally never broken bread with him. Nothing. But

(15:46):
I thought there was a there was a bunch of
things that went on since the tweet kind of heard
around the world, And OK, I've been in the middle
of that, Like you tweet something that comes out poorly
and like, nikes, how do I what do I do here?
What I do here? He did, on some level tweet
through it, right, he did the thirty minutes later, another

(16:06):
tweet trying to contextualize. At thirty minutes after that, another
tweet contextualizing it. But the fact is that, um, his
tweet came across as at least in at least insensitive.
At least, um, here's his tweet. No doubt the NFL

(16:28):
is considering postponing the rest of this game. But how
this late in the season, a game of this magnitude
is it is crucial to the regular season outcome, which
suddenly seems so irrelevant. So at the last part of
it did offer some form of empathy. But it's the
way in which this is just this is how Skip's
brain works, right, It's very matter of fact. It's almost

(16:48):
um what's it called when you're autistic? But when you
when you don't um. Yeah, it's almost Asperger's like. It's
almost Asperger's like. And I know some of else who's
on TV who sometimes gets accused of this. I won't
share their name, but they have confided to me he
is like guy, I think I've asked Burgers like. It's

(17:09):
one of those things where I I struggle sometimes with
empathy and I and I would and I would say
my dad had a little of that. I can tell
you that I've struggled with that sometimes in terms of
being as empathetic as as as many would want you
to be. And I think one of the hard parts
of being a somebody with strong opinions is you do

(17:30):
have to at times cut through the emotions and get
to what's really going on here. But when we see
a young man and we hear that he was CPR
was performed on a football field, like, that's not the time.
It's why I tweeted and like, again, this is out

(17:52):
of empathy, Like what, like, why are we even like
just cancel the game postpone the game figure out in
the morning. We don't even need to figure out any
sort of like just let's get everybody out of the stadium.
Let's get the teams, you know, one team to the hospital,
to the hotel, or to the buses or to the planes,
and let's let them get home and let's just worry
about the health of the player. I think in this

(18:12):
particular case it called for. But because of skips um,
let's just say strong opinions in the past, because of
the perception and the reality of how he's done what
he's done in his in his late career rise in
the media, like Skip wasn't Skip was a Uh was

(18:38):
a fire starter when he was a writer in Dallas.
He wrote a book about the cowboys and UH, but
his star had faded. And then it was resuscitated by
at first Cold Pizza, and then it became first in Tent,
and then it became First Take. And now he's over
at Fox and now he's making a gigantic sum of
money and it's all built around his his hot takes.

(19:05):
Shannon Sharp was not on the show yesterday. So this
is the sound. We didn't edit any of it of
Shannon's opening MODELOG. There's been a lot of speculation of
why I wasn't on air yesterday, and I won't get
into speculation or conjecture innuendo, but I will say this,
and watching that game on Monday night, what happened to
DeMar Hamlin struck me a look different. Um and the

(19:28):
Brotherhood and the NFL when injuries happened, when we know
injuries are part of the game. I've seen guys stuff
for a c l S and a chi Les terror,
but I've never seen anybody have to be revived and
fight for their life on the field. So they struck
me a little differently because I remember seeing my brother
paralyzed on the field temporarily and he was able to
regain focus. Um. Skip tweeted something and although I disagree

(19:50):
with the tweet, uh and and I hopefully Skip would
take it down, but I didn't want it time out,
come out. I'm not gonna take it down because I
stand by what I tweeted. Let okay, no, you go
go ahead, Let's go, Jim. I mean, I cannot even
get through a monologue without you interrupted me. You could
have came back. I thought just let I was gonna

(20:10):
bring up No, I was just gonna say skill. I
didn't want to yesterday to bid into a situation where
themar Hamlet was the issue. We should have been talking
about him and not get into your not get into
your your tweet. That's what I was gonna do. But
you can't even let me finish my opening monologue without
you interrupting. Okay, I was under the impression you weren't
going to bring this up because nobody here had a

(20:31):
problem with that tweet. No, clearly the bosses wanted you
to offer explanation, so clearly so they did not have nobody. Uh, okay,
there's a lot going on there. Um, the I won't
take down the tweet. I assumed the reason he wasn't

(20:53):
taking down the tweet was because somehow, now taking down
the tweet, people screenshot it and people like it's it's
a tattoo and it can never leave you. M but
skip double down there, right, skip double down there, double

(21:14):
down on it. And that part to it is um
that that part to it is um crazy? Right? That again, like,
in what world does he think no one had a
problem with it? When the person sitting across the desk

(21:36):
from him clearly had a problem with Now I would
point out that Shannon's wrong for missing the show yesterday. Okay, Look,
the part about this this job is on days in
which things are uncomfortable to talk about. Because your brother
laid paralyzed. His brother was a great player, great Sterling

(21:59):
was a great player. Those are the times we want
to hear from you most. Sorry. Again, this is where
my I may lack some empathy. Again, if you're emotional,
if you're hurt by it, if it brings up memories,
if it makes you feel awful, and you like, why
do guys even play football? I can't like all of
that stuff. That's the real stuff. That's the stuff we're

(22:22):
actually want. But skip again, there is no reading of
the room. Nobody had a problem to here. Um, the
guy right across the desk from you had a problem
with the guy went right across the desk. We had
a problem. What do you think? Just do? Uh? It's

(22:45):
one of the most entertaining things I've seen in a
long time. I saw it live. I had to rewind
it and watch it a couple of times. Um. The
fact that obviously Shannon went rogue by bringing up the
tweet and by bringing up the fact that he thought
that God that Skip would take it down. Um. In
that moment, I thought, this is this is amazing because

(23:07):
Skip didn't see this coming and he reacted as Skip does,
You're right. He doubled down on it, and he says
he stands by the tweet. Ever since his monogue yesterday,
a Skip was saying that it was on us that
we misinterpreted. I mean, we misread his tweet and that
what he said was the last sentence. Basically, that was
the gist of his tweet, no matter what he said

(23:29):
prior to that. Just read the last sentence. Um. But
this is a fascinating UM what do you call it?
Example of what happens on these shows? Uh, in what
happens in leadership in television? UM, I thought, I think
Shannon told his bosses he was gonna do one thing

(23:50):
and then went rogue on the air, and it was
something that Skipped and anticipate and it made for incredible
television and it was never brought up for the next
ninety minut it's, by the way, So I don't think
that his boss has told him or he had to
tell them what to say. Um. I I've been on
that show one time. Skip was not on it, but

(24:12):
I do know how that show operates, going back to
even ESPN, but especially when I was integrated into TV. UM.
I don't think anybody tells them what to say what
they can and can't say. And I think that's or run,
what are you gonna say here? Or whatever like nope. Um,
And obviously this is the downside to it, right, This

(24:37):
is the downside to it is that when no one says, like, hey, dude,
you can't say that, or what it feels like is
whatever was told to Skip about the tweets like hey,
people are people are reacting to the tweet like skip
Bayless yesterday one eighty on Lebron James. Sorry, dude, if

(25:02):
you go from the ultimate Lebron hater, you go back
less than a week ago when Lebron had was how
many do you have? Forty something on his birthday? Was
a forty one his birthday? Go back and read his
Twitter timeline like he was like he gave the the um,
he gave the backhanded compliment of the year right where
he's like, congratulations on scoring all those points when there

(25:26):
was no big guy in the lane right, Like it
wasn't just like, hey man, that was an amazing game.
You go from the most noted Lebron hater to the
you're awesome Lebron. Keep it up. So first Skips full
of ship. If he didn't, he the the I don't,
I don't pay attention. I don't. That's bullshit. They his camp,

(25:50):
his group. Twitter searches his name on a daily basis.
How do I know because we talked about something he
and Shannon said, Okay, this is a real thing. Okay,
because I've reached the I don't give a funk moment
of my time here at Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we

(26:13):
talked about um people discussing the Warriors being better without
Kevin Durant, the Warriors better without Kevin Durant, and it
was talked about time and like, yeah, you're better without
Kevin Durant, and I just said, like, the idiocy of

(26:33):
this has to stop. We had played Skips sound of
saying it, but I did not direct any commentary about
Skip personally. It was the idea that this is a
a narrative that we here on radio, we see on
TV where people will go like Hey, the Warriors win,
Maybe they're better without Kevin Durant. No, they're not. They

(26:56):
were the best team that anyone had ever seen when
they have Kevin Durant. They were still very, very good
and won a championship without him. But if you think
it was better or even close to the same, you
need your eyes examined. And no one would actually agree
with you on that. But all we all I said
was I said something after So we have a guy,

(27:20):
will name him who it's not Elijah who works in
I think New York and his job is taking the
clips from radio, packaging them and then putting them out
on social media. And what he put on social media
was was was just that that we need to stop
the atacy. But he had a picture of Skip. So

(27:40):
they twitter searched Skip and they're like, got leaves talking
about Skip. You know you need to take this down.
You're like, okay. First of all, he made the comment
he has an opinion. I'm allowed to have an opinion
about that opinion. It wasn't in any way personal about it.
The only limits I've ever been told is if you
make it, do not make personal, you know. But the

(28:05):
reason they were I was like, well, why why are
we so protective of Skip Bayless? He's he has made
this portion of career based upon his opinions, and I
vehemently disagree with that opinion. But I didn't even say
his name, would I said? I said the idiocy of
this narrative. So this is me calling bullshit on the

(28:31):
no one had a problem. I don't know. Are you
fucking kidding me? Yesterday you went on TV and said
and basically and did a one eighty on Lebron James,
and you want to act like you want to act
like nobody was affected. Dude, I was born at night,
not last night. Get the funk out of here. But

(28:53):
it's equally bullshit for Shannon to not do the show yesterday.
You are the voice of that's your job. Your job
is to go No, Skip, You're wrong. You can't. I
no matter why you put in that last sentence, the
first three sentences lack empathy. Kids laying there fighting for
his life, and you're like concerned about playoff seatings. Get

(29:15):
the funk outta here. Have a heart. That's what you're
supposed to do. That's the that's the beauty of that show.
That's the organic nature of it. I I don't know
whether to be embarrassed, appalled, or simply chuckle, because that's
what you get when you let guys leave guys their

(29:37):
own devices and you offer no kind of leadership from
above on what they can and can't say, do it,
don't do. And look, I'm I'm I'm fully understanding. I say,
I've said stupid ship before and things get missed, perceived, missed, whatever,
all of that stuff, right. I mean, for example, uh,
website called the Comeback. They did they they aggregated what

(30:01):
I said about Lamar Jackson. Okay, perfect example, aggregate what
I said about Lamar Jackson. Okay, so the headline is right,
let's see here, where's the headline? I mean, looks at me?
Hold on than keeps updating? Ah, Doug Gottlieb shockingly questions

(30:22):
Lamar Jackson's injury. But then when you actually clicked on it,
you read it. They did a good job. Whoever did it? Uh,
Stacy michels See did a good job of taking what
I said and presenting it in its entirety right. And

(30:43):
I said, I get the sense Lamar Jackson was hurt,
He's not injured, right, because we didn't get the he's
out four to six. I went through it. You can
read it whatever, We can replay it if you wanted.
But the point is that, hey, look, I understand you could.
You could see that headline and say that lacks empathy

(31:05):
for somebody who's legitimately hurt. Read it and I and
I simply I stated more than once, I'm not calling
it saying he's faking it at all. I believe he's hurt,
but I also believe that football mentality is can I
play that I want to play? Especially the great players
play through things all the time. And I balanced it

(31:27):
with the fact that he's the guy who used his
legs if his knees aren't right, I understand, But I
also know that he's in a contract year and he's
trying to protect himself. And it wouldn't be it wouldn't
be the first time that somebody stayed out a little
bit longer to make a point. That's what I got.
What do you think J S do I did? I

(31:47):
saw that comeback thing that you had posted in that
the the the headline is is the attention grabber um
That headline written the way it is is going to
get clicks. I mean but that's nothing new. Uh. You
being someone in in in public and someone that that

(32:09):
has opinions you're subject to that you're gonna be misrepresented.
Most people aren't going to read what you said. So, UM,
I guess that's the cost that comes with doing what
you do. But yeah, it's it's that. That's what this
whole thing is. Um. And to sum up the kind
of the skip thing is, um, he keeps doubling and
tripling down on the on the tweet. Someone in his

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inner circle that isn't a sick of fan that is
only a yes man needs to tell him, I, this
is what people took wrong with the tweet, and then
maybe maybe try either apologize or try to relate to
that person that is taking this part of your tweet wrong.
But no, he just basically said I stand by my tweet. Um.

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It just it still comes off as a bit insensitive,
a bit insensitive I was being and he didn't let
you know, he didn't let he didn't let Shannon finish.
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let's get the who's annoying, and now it's your annoying.
So Doug Um, I don't know if you caught this,
because it was it was one of those things that
it hit on Monday or Tuesday after DeMar ham one

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and all that, and then people, I think chose to
ignore it because it was so fucking stupid. But this
is what gave it credence to Mars family actually responded
to this garbage. This is Bart Scott on ESPN. What
exactly did t Higgins do last night to well, right
right before the tackle, he lowers his helm and he

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kind of throws his body into his chest. He's standing
up because he's thinking he's got to take chase te
Higgins at an angle to make a tackle, so he
didn't expect tee Higgins to launch his body back into him.
You know. It's one of those things that a lot
of times you see it as a linebacker unblocked. You know,
engagd Um running back comes through the hole and he

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knows that contacts coming to He lowers his helmet and
you can't get underneath him, so he's able to get
into you and your chest is exposed. So they they
taking that out of the game, but they don't really
regulate it as much as possible. I expect the league
would be a lot more vigilant when it comes to
that and using that penalty. So that was construed as
him blaming Higgins for this incident, and the family through

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the uncle Uh responded by saying that the family does
not blame Tee Higgins. As you've probably read, Tee Higgins
has been in the hospital, UH since Monday night and
he probably feels awful. But Bart Scott, you're annoying for
saying what you said. I gotta tell you, I'm gonna

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disagree with you here. I really am um that right,
I mean, I just I heard it, and I don't.
I don't hear the It's not there was no purpose
to injure, right, There's no purpose to injure. And what
Bart is talking about has been discussed a thousand times

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by defensive players, which is like, hey, targeting, why why
can't targeting be an offensive can be an offensive penalty? Um,
he didn't say he should be suspended, he didn't say
he should be penalized. He just said, like, this is
something that guy, I think that the league needs to
take a look at. It's the idea of like, why
is only one side get get called for targeting when

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an offensive player can. I again, I disagree with him.
I disagree with his interpretation of the play, But he
also played, and he's also he's echoing the sentiments of
of many defensive players in other instances. And it's just
because we're also sensitive that after what happened, you know,

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So would it be more fair of me to say
that he's annoying for time and place because this was
the morning after, you know, yeah? Probably probably. I I again,
I think this is it's like John Rathton's a friend
of mine and he all he does is care about

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college basketball, like that's it, that's his entire life. And
he was watching another game I think was Perdue Rutgers
and Rutgers upset Perdue, and at the end of the game,
it was right after that that incident that he tweeted
like get your nitroglycerin pills right ready or something like that,
and yeah, nothing new with football, and like people like, dude,

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you know, we want to cancel John Rothstein, Like what
are you talking about? So I actually think it's we
we get really upset over something. We see, and then
we search out people to cancel because we're mad. Those
are the people that are the most fucking annoying. Oh
I like that, all right. So that's the second thing
that's annoying here, because I have a third one. Because

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all of us, you, John and I have been coaches
on the youth level at different levels. We're all we've
all been subject to the parent that really wants their
kid to play. You know, parents are the worst judge
of their own kids. They always think they should play
short and bad fourth or whatever. Um So, Claudia, Claudio Raina,

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and I'm gonna bring our update guy in uh. Nick Cope,
he's got most of the details. But you had actually
retweeted this story. Um. In a statement sent to Fox
Sports GEO, Reyna's mom Danielle says she reported a ninety
one to domestic violence incident involving US men's nationally team

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coach Greg burr Halter. Um that included domestic violence, right,
she reported it. Now if you dig further into the story,
Nick and correct me if I'm wrong. She threatened to
UH to report this to coach during the World Cup
after burr Holter had made the statement that that Raina

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was not going to be playing as much as expected.
Is that correct? Yeah, And so let's just backtrack to
Tuesday real quick here, because burr Halter has the long
statement on Twitter where he's saying, I gotta publicly share
this information that a third party has been using against me.
Details the incident back in with him and his now wife.

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You know, he was just a freshman in college. They
later reckon siled seven months later. They're happily married, have
several children now, so this is something that they have
put long in their past, and so burr Halter obviously
one of the big contentious things during the World Cup
was how Geo Raina, one of the forwards, was not
getting a bunch of playing time. And you know, I

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don't know a ton about US soccer and their makeup,
but a lot of people who do were commenting about
his Why isn't this guy in here? He's incredibly dynamic.
We could use him, you know. Burr Halter had some
comments during the World Cup about him not meeting expectations
on and off the field, and we didn't see Raina
really at all until the very end of that last game,

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when when the US was already down against the Dutch
and so in addition, you've got both rain of parents
being involved here. So this is from the ESPN report.
Claudia Arena, during the World Cup sent several messages to
the US men's national team general manager Brian McBride which
he shared his frustration about Geo's experience, and then ESPN

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has source that he threatened to share allegations about burr
Halter's past. Claudia Arena has denied those allegations. Then recently,
Burr halt are made comments at this leadership summit in
New York alluding to Raina. He said a player was
nearly sent home for not meeting expectations. Everybody reading between
the lines knows he's talking about Raina. So now enter

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the mom, Danielle. So she's frustrated, Why why are we
still talking about this thing a month later? So she
says that she told the US Soccer sporting director Ernie
Stewart about his past and brought all this to light.
So it has potentially been going on for a month since.
Back during the World Cup, burr Alter says he was

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being threatened with information during the World Cup. Claudio Raina
does not uh. He denies those allegations, but Danielle does
admit to doing it here recently. So this incredible story
that ends with this um we all know, annoying youth
parent person. This this takes it tops everything I've ever heard.

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Does the hell hath no wrath like a scornman only
to be top hell half no wrath like a scorn
woman who's protecting her son? Right? Were she talking about
her son like she's blackmailing the coach of the US
men's national team over something that happened when he was
a college freshman thirty one years ago with a woman
that he ultimately married has kids with. Are you fucking

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kidding me? Like? What a story? Are you? Like? Excuse me? Yeah, hey,
this one time, um years ago. Don't get me wrong.
What he's accused of doing is disgraceful, right, but but
you know, I don't want to get in somebody's bedroom
and and make what they worked it out. You know,

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this is unbelievable and it's clearly, I mean, couldn't be
more obvious that the only reason she said it and
leaked it was because she wasn't playing it. He wasn't
playing her son. That's not an you're annoying. That's a
are you fucking kidding me? Right? Now, here's the deal.

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I believe the coach is gonna keep his job, and
you know what she's done. You can't have him on
the team. How could you possibly have somebody on the
team representing the United States? And maybe you say, well,
but how do you say Burke Holder? Maybe you say like, well,
he can't represent the United States because maybe but but
does she know what she just did? So what's her name? Claudia, Danielle, Danielle, Danielle,

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Rain now Dane. I think that's it for the pod.
That that's that's what we got. There's other important sports
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