April 26, 2023 • 32 mins
Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take about great quarterbacks no longer playing their entire careers with one team. Doug explains what bothers him most about Stephen A Smith's commentary about Kawhi Leonard. Plus, AJ Pierzynski stars in today's edition of "Because We Can".
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and the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader,
the iHeartRadio app. We play for you a portion of
a previous show Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about Kawhi Leonard and his time with
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
This is the fourth consecutive year that Kawhi and Paul
Georgia struggle to stay healthy and now the Clippers right
a crossroad.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What do you got it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You got them for one more year than a player
option in twenty twenty four. Rest of your roster can
also be free agents in twenty twenty four. I mean,
it's nice to have Terrence Mann and Norm Powell. Tylu's
a really good coach, but Steve Balmer is going to
be moving into that new arena twenty twenty four to
twenty twenty five. You'd certainly like to have a competitive
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roster there. Maybe you need to change in the front
office there. But watching the Clippers this entire series, and
I did think even with Kawhi healthy, that they could
beat the Phoenix Sons. With Paul George, I thought that
they would definitely beat the Phoenix Sons because it's a
deep roster, really good coach. But you can't keep these
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guys healthy, certainly Kawhi. Now can you trade them? Who's
gonna want Kawhi knowing that you're going to get him
maybe for sixty games maybe, And keep in mind there
was load management earlier this year the entire regular season,
so you could have him for the postseason. Even with
load management, he wasn't able to go.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I guess here's the problem, right, Are you going to
bail on Kawhi Leonard after he comes off the last
month of the half of the season where he's the
best player in the NBA. It's like, I just I
don't understand. Here's my I had this discussion literally before
the show where we were talking about the homeless problem
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in Los Angeles, and it's one of those things where
there are a million people who want to point out
who's to blame and how big a disaster it is.
But what I asked is, do you have a solution?
Does anybody have a solution to the problem. It's well
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established there is a homeless problem with the Los Angeles, right,
what is the actual solution? So if we'd say the
problem with Kawhi Leonard and with Paul George's they're not
and can't stay healthy, it's legitimate. It's legitimate, But what
is your actual solution to it? What is your solution
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to it? You're allowed to say you're frustrated or what
I've always said, which is I don't believe in curses,
except for the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
They're clearly cursed. Right, It's not just this.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's Chris Paul getting hurt, it's Paul George getting COVID.
You know what was it? Was it last year that
Paul George got COVID? I mean, you name it. It's
gone wrong for the Clippers. And so with all of
that in mind, I get it we're all collectively frustrated
because it feels like they put together a big time
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roster with a big time coach, and they have money
behind it, and the owner has done everything in his
power to kind of change the narrative, but it just
hasn't worked out. What is the solution. What's my solution?
I think you need to continue to You need to
find a point guard in the offseason. You know, you
need to find a point guard offseason. You need to
have a stable roster, and you need to put a
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plan in place for Kawhi Leonard on how much he's
going to play and how he's going to play and
all those other things at the same thing for Paul
George and maybe even you want to share that plan.
The problem isn't necessary the load management. The problem is that, man,
they're really, really, really really cloak and dagger with it. Yes,
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John Romins, Doug.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
They seem to play very well without the players, Like
they played a good game last night. They only lost
like six points to a very good Phoenix team. They
seem to have a very good team built around that
can withstand very well with altitude players. I mean, obviously
they need them, but they got something going positive. They
just got to find something to kind of work it
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all out right. I mean, I don't know, are you
are you happy with the Clippers at how they're constructed?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, I think they they didn't have a point guard.
They made some bad choices and probably should have gone
out and got Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But they do.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They have a good team, they have a good roster,
and they're used to playing without those guys because they
sit so much during the regular season. But if to
win a championship, you got to have those guys and
they got to be healthy. And I don't know another
solution other than you just try again. You you just
try again. So uh, here's Colin Cowherd talking about Aaron
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Rodgers and the Packers.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Outside of John Lway with the Broncos and maybe Derek
Jeter with the Yankees, anything that's ever been great for
a long time in sports almost never ends gracefully. Michael
Jordan and the Bulls ended with animosity. Brady and Belichick's
dynasty ended with animal Kobe Shaq, Phil Jackson ended with animosity.
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Farv in Green Bay, Dan Marino in Miami ended with turbulence.
I mean, all Laker fans will tell you Jerry West,
Phil Jackson, pat Riley, all of those end bumpy in
LA all of them, even Jerry West, he was mister Laker.
So that's the way it ends. Even the Beatles ended
with turbulence, ugly animosity. Maybe it's men needing control, needing leverage,
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a pat on the back. But I look at the
Jets and I'm like, hey, it's not gonna last very long.
This is a one or a two year deal. A
lot of smiles can't wait to watch it. But this
stuff always ends poorly.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Almost every departure from a place, well, you know, again
depends upon departure. But my guess is that over the
next year and a half, two years, everyone in Green
Bay just talks shit on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's what will happen. How do I know?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's what happens most places, especially places that are off
the beaten path a little bit. You know, where you
felt like you were really a part of it. You
told us it was a special place, and yet you
did everything in your power to get out of that
special place because you didn't want to be there or
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live there in the off season, right, And for whatever reason,
sometimes it's because of how you acted when you're there,
or maybe how you acted when you left, or the
fact that they find it hypocritical, or maybe it's because
they're jealous that you got out and they did not.
That's also part of it, but I found it interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know, there was.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A Brady Quinn has a rant which relates to this,
and I want to kind of combine the two commentary.
Here's Brady Quinn, part of Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe talking about Aaron rodgers departure.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
One of the articles that kind of popped up was
talking about how Dak Prescott's now the longest current tenured
quarterback with his team.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play with those franchises. I just don't think you're
going to see that very much. I mean, Patrick Mahomes,
maybe you look at him and you say, Okay, he's
got a chance because he chose to science such a
long term deal. It's a great setup. But if Andy
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Reid's not there and he might not feel confident in
who they bring in, depending on who that may be,
you got to wonder if they don't start to look
at going elsewhere. You know a lot of these guys
who are younger quarterbacks kind of born into a league.
Now that's seen Aaron Rodgers go from Green Bay after
being there what eighteen years or long an than that
ever was and move on.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
To the Jets.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
They've watched Tom Brady move off from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Russell Wilson as well, he's not I mean, he's more
of a contemporary than when the old school guys. But
not to get in a separate conversation, but when you
look at it, you go, yeah, this is probably the
end of an era of seeing players stay for one
long period of tie with one team. And I'm not
gonna say like the NBA had an impact on it,
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because players have always eventually gone on moved to another team.
But even the NBA to a degree, I think a
lot of players it's very rare for you to see
them want to stay in one place.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, there is a millennial aspect to it, where people
move much more readily.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
The problem with it is twofold one.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It hasn't happened as much as common perception would lead
you to believe, right like Philip Rivers forever and then
last year with the Colts, that's actually more the norm
and go back in look historically Dann Reno play with
one team Ben Roethlisberger just retired, played with one team.
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Those guys are the exception. The rule has been the
last year or two, you play it out with somebody else.
And I think we'll see the same thing here Joe Burrow.
I think we'll remain with the Cincinni Bengals. They'll give
him a gigantic, super long term contract. He's from Ohio,
like all of that, and then maybe end of his
career he tries something different.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Justin Herbert. Do you think the Chargers are gonna let
Justin Herbert go? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They'll do whatever it takes to have him under contract.
And if Pat Mahomes like a contract and Pat Mahomes
now Mike, those guys go elsewhere at the very end
of their deal.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yes. Do you know why?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Because every other fucking quarterback has done that too, like
to what Tom Brady did is more the norm than
the exception. Name for me an all time great quarterback
Joe Namath didn't only play with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Feel free like go Round.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Tony Romo only played, and Troy Aikman they only played
their career with the Cowboys, and those guys just I mean,
Tony Romo just retired a couple years ago, but a
good part of the reason had to be they got hurt.
Their careers were cut by injury. Aaron Rodgers went as
a place more than a decade was was Russell Wilson
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more than a decade Like injury has led to guys
either shutting it down early or Peyton Manning leaving the Colts. Otherwise,
you hold on to the guy as long as he
can until you think, you know, you reach this point.
This is not what NBA people, what NFL people fear
about the NBA, which is what Lamar Jackson is doing,
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holding a team hostage and even though there's a contract extension,
then leaving anyway, which is a very strong possibility.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So do I think this is a change? I do not.
And the irony to it is.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Brady trying to convince us it's a change when it's
actually the exact same path that Brett farvwent Like, we
just saw this. We just saw this, and we saw
it with Tom Brady, and we're seeing it with Russell Wilson,
and we you know, we see it with with with
lots of older quarterbacks who at some point you price
yourself out or you just you've been around each other
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too long, and you move on.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
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Speaker 1 (13:12):
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Speaker 3 (13:23):
Who is annoying? Jason Stewart, It's a question I asked
myself every day.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Hello there, Hello dog, Hello, dear.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
Hey. So I was watching first Take today and this
is just a part of what stephen A said. But
he kept he kept qualifying. Everything he said this morning
was I'm not saying that he's not injured. But and
then he'll say something like this, and.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
This is the difference between him and a Paul Joey
or various other people.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We see them get hurt.
Speaker 9 (14:05):
We'll watch Kawhi drop thirty eight one game like he
did in Game one against me, and he's thirty one
a game two, walk off the court, and then the
next thing you know, Tyler gets a net.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He ain't he ain't.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Available today, and by the way, hein't available next week,
and he ain't available the next game. You don't know why,
but you hear, and you hear, and you hear stories,
yet they have a medical staff.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
You hear about he got his own medical his own
medical team, But damn thea said me, fied, he's never
helped me when it counts. And again, if you're not
marketing and promoting the sport, if you're not, if all
you're doing is saying I'm gonna grab my lunch pail
and play for fifty percent of the time, you ain't
grabbing your lunch pail to play.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
I think my frustration is the same with yours here.
I don't know what his point is because.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He has no fucking point except what he wants his
point to be. But he's he actually is pet your
of what he thinks, which is bullshit. He thinks the
guy ain't hurt that he could play. He thinks he's
a pussy, That's what he thinks. The worst part about
it is that here's the guy who has called out
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numerous other people, okay, falsely calling them out, whatever, And
this is how he's lived, how he's made his career,
calling guys out, and yet he's clearly afraid of saying
something which is complete bullshit. By the way, right, so
he has his own medical team and they should be fired.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Why why?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Here's my problem with Stephen a okay, and I if
this is performance art right, going on and making himself
the story instead of the actual story, which is, I
can't believe the Clippers two best players or hurt again.
That's the story. There is no other story. There is
no other don't make anything up about the load management
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and all that, like that's part of the Hey does
it actually protect you? Does it actually help you? Or
does it hurt you? But the story is the Clippers
have done just about everything right in trying to build
their franchise to be a championship count. They're building their
own arena, they're starting their own brand, they're doing their
own thing.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They went and they got.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Two Southern California born players to come back and try
and raise their first banner in arena where they're the
third tenant.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Right. They're doing everything they fucking can.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
They went out and got a championship coach who the
other team wanted to be their coach but wouldn't pay
him the additional years. They've done everything right. That's the story,
the only story. Nothing else. But he's like calling out
the management to the medical staff team. Why calling out
Kawhi Leonard. Why wait, he has to promote the So
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you want him to be a TikToker is what I get. Like,
the only thing that matters is if you play and
if you win. That's the only thing that actually fucking matters.
All the other stuff is bullshit, And so you wanted
to fake and have a personality. He doesn't have no right.
Kawhi is KWHI. That's the deal. Everyone knows the deal
with Kawhi Leonard. Well, he doesn't promote the This is
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like the Mike Trout argument. You know, Mike Trout doesn't
promote himself on social media. He's not a fucking clown.
He's just the best baseball player in the sport.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Unfortunately, his franchise sucks and there's nothing he can do
about it except go to work every day and try
and be the best Mike Trout he can be, which
is the same thing that Kawhi Leonard tries to do,
you know. I mean, like, look, here's the deal with
Steven A. If he had this exact same presentation in
message on a regional sports network, no one would ever watch.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No one would ever watch.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He benefits from the fact, he's audience been He said
nothing of an except saying something fucking stupid, which he
basically alludes to. He doesn't think he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
He thinks the.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Medical stat medical team that Kawhi has doesn't do a
good job, and he's really healthy and they're telling him
not to play, and because he didn't see him get hurt,
how can he believe that he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I mean, that's all one dumb, dumb shit.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And what it is, is what he's really saying is
I don't think he's hurt because I didn't see him
get hurt, So he can't possibly be hurt because I
know what getting hurt looks like. And maybe he's hurt,
but he's not injured. Get out there and play. This
generation is so soft, like okay, and I mean JJ reddick.
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He had a great point and then he kind of
lost his point because he wandered around in the woods
talking about all kinds of other shit that doesn't matter,
you know, But he said, like, do you know how
bad a quad ten and tear actually is? Have you
ever torn your acl so when you have those two injuries,
which are two injuries that Kawhi Leonard had, and oh yeah,
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by the way, when he tore his ACL is a
partial tear and no one knew. It was just like
his knee was kind of wonky. It felt like an ACL,
but you couldn't really tell. And you know, the the
Clippers only true issue is that they actually provide true
confidentiality for their players. Their only true issue is that
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because they don't tell and nobody nothing about nothing, which
is what you're supposed to do, suddenly they're the bad guys.
Or it's all about Kawhi because he doesn't want his
medical information shared, which is actually a much stronger stance.
It's the guys like who leak information out constantly. Those
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are the people that want to be liked by the media.
Those are the people that want to be liked.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
By the public. Kawhi Leonard doesn't care. He wants to play.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And if you didn't think he wanted to play, then
why the hell was he the best player in the
NBA last month, the half of the season, arguably the
best player in the court in Game one and even
into Game two, like this whole like Russell Westbrook played
so great in Game one, No he didn't. He was
fucking three of nineteen. He made a couple of good
defensive plays. You know who carried them. His name is
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Kawhi fucking Leonard at both ends of the court. Watch
the game, don't make and oh yeah, here's the frustrating
part about steven A. Okay, I believe he's in any
conversation the most powerful people in media right and he's
on a network that is a rights holder for the NBA.
So here's the thing. Why don't you pick up the
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phone and call Kawhi Leonard. He will take your call.
And if he won't, his uncle will. And if he won't,
Lawrence Frank Will, Hey, Jerry Westwill, tylu Will. You may
have to hear some yelling at the other end. You
may have to look, man, I just want to know
what's really going on. That's what's embarrassing about steven A.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And he did this shit.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He did this shit when persingis okay, Persingis went on,
go and google it, old takes exposed. He went on
and killed persingis for anybody for drafting him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You remember who they wanted to draft.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, they wanted to draft the kid out of Duke
hold On real quickly find it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Edit this part.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Uh, Justice Winslow. He wanted to draft Justice Winslow. Okay,
and he went on and.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
On and on about it.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
I'm done with the New York Knicks. I'm done with them.
How could they not draft Justice Winslow, Okay. He lives
and works in New York City. Persingi's had several workouts
open to the media in New York City. This is
where you're lazy. That's it. It's just laziness because he
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has the world at his fingertips and he doesn't even
have to go to Prisingis's workout.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Call anybody you know and respect and go like, hey man,
I couldn't get over to Basketball City. Did you see
the Presingius workout. Yeah, he's really fucking good. Seventy moves,
he can shoot, like, got a chance, right, And Perzingis
hasn't been an all NBA caliber guy.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Obviously, injury set him back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know, I don't know if he's he's not great,
but you know he's better than He's better than Justice Winslow.
And everybody who covered the NBA knew. The NBA knew
that going in. The only person who didn't with Steven A.
And it wasn't because steven A is not smart. It
wasn't because steven A is not good at his job.
It's because he got fucking lazy doing too many things
and just hey, what's what's the topic. Oh, I'm gonna
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kill this guy because I haven't seen him and he's
a foreign player, and it's easy to have a foreign
player because they have no fans here where. By the way,
most of the best players in the NBA are foreign players. No,
they're not. Okay, who's the last three, who's the last
what four? MVPs Jokic and Todakoumpo and probably this year Embiid.
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But it's easy in the NBA draft to rip a
guy who hasn't played here because nobody knows and you
don't have boys on Twitter or boys to back you up.
Whereas Justice Winslow had just played for Duke and had played, well,
there you go. It's not that hard, and he's doing
the same thing here. The Clippers don't provide any information.
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Kawhi Leonard don't provide any information, so obviously somebody who's
close to him is like, dude, Kawhi, he could totally play,
which if that's your take, by the way, have that take,
go for it. But this halfway take is complete bullshit
and it's just lazy because all he's got to he's
Steven A.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Smith. If he calls me right now on air, I
put him on. Do you know why he's Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
This is not me talking shit on Steven A. Smith
in terms of his name or his talent. This is
me telling you that if he actually called anybody in
LA that works for the Clippers, they would probably tell
him the real deal and he would have a real
sensible take. And then maybe if his take is, hey, man,
I talk to somebody with the Clippers and they know
they think he could play and his medical team is bullshit,
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or the real take, which is it's just terrible luck.
Everybody else, every other team in the NBA load managed
to get to this point for various reasons. Right Andrew
Wiggins missed time because of a family thing. Right the
Lakers Lebron was hurt, but they also sat Anthony Davis.
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They load managed.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Go through it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The Phoenix Suns KD got hurt, but I look, they
also kind of managed that. They managed Booker. There were
some questions about how much they played KD. At the
end of the season as he was getting back into
playoff shape, like everybody's doing the same thing. They're just
going about it. And the Clippers of the team who
Paul George gets hurt right before the playoffs, terrible luck
like two weeks for the playoffs, terrible luck in a
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game and Kawhi Leonard gets hurt in game one. So
what is you point other than, hey man, it's apparently
too hard to pick up the phone and fucking call
somebody in.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
LA and just to put a button on that very
well said. He was the one who told Dan LeBatard,
don't put skipping me in the category of hot takers
because we were journalists. Yes, yes, none of what he
said this morning had to do with journalism. In fact,
as you point out, it was the opposite. It was
mailing the shit in and throwing shit out there that
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might stick.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
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Speaker 8 (25:39):
So CJ. Stroud spoke to reporters today, I don't know
what I'm most annoyed about this, CJ. His handlers, somebody
who fed on this line, but he said, according to
the referring to the he was it the S two
test that has taken down his stock considerably. He says,
I'm not a test taker, I'm a football player, and
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that I think in his mind that was like a
walk off line.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, that was that was his jerk store line.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Really there's a lot. There's a lot to be annoyed by.
I don't know if that's his line, So I can't
blame him specifically. Maybe a low level marketing guy that
fed them the line, but he said it, Doug.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's one of those lines where around your guys, and
again if you watch on social media, you're like, I'm
in that's my guy. But here's the other side to it.
That's him admitting he did score an eighteen percent on
the S two test. It also is telling you that
he's he's doing the I think the average guy thinks
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it's like a written, standard, standardized test. You walk in
and it is not at all. You can't study for it,
you can't prep for it. It does not there's no
like have to check your work it is. It is
simply a test which is used in a variety. These
tests are used in other forms of work, but it's one.
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It's that's simply based upon your ability to decipher information
and the rate at which you process it.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And that message of hey, I'm a really good football
player anyway, and don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Like again, that's that. That's to me.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's not the message I'd like my quarterback to have, right,
ask me the same question, Hey, what's your what's.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Your response to the report about the low S two.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Score Listen, I'm I'm embarrassed by it. Embarrassed by it.
You know, probably should have locked in a little bit
more that day. Maybe I didn't, you know, in hindsight,
I didn't know what I was in for, and maybe
I should have kind of prepped for it with my.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Team a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
But like, look, this is the ability to decipher information
and read average. Those are things that are gained over time.
And if you ask anybody to Ohio State, I have
a great work ethic and I wouldn't be in this
position to be drafted highly if people didn't think that
I was intelligent and talented and whatever I lack, I
think I can make up by just getting in the
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film room, getting on the field and being a great quarterback.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Whose answer is better, Yeah, that's second one's better. And then, uh,
I just don't want him teaching. He's not a good
test taker. Yeah, I don't want him teaching.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Just I just go touchdowns, like dude, just you know,
everybody like everybody throws touchdowns at a hos State.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Everybody throws touchdowns a hostate you now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, look, Justin Fields had arguably the greatest season,
maybe in argument, the greatest season in the history of
Ohio State football. And I think it'd be fair to
say that Justin Fields is not does not appear to
be a great processor the line of scrimmage, and Justin
Field is the only success story they have at Oha
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ste matter of fact, the best quarterback ever to come
out of Oha State transferred out of Ohio State and
went to LSU because what it takes to be successful
in college, it doesn't necessarily take to be successful in
the pros.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Okay, you got it? One more, three, two, one? Uh hum.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Fernando Tatiss was in I want to say, leftfield or
rightfield last night in Chicago, and he was greeted with
chants of he's on steroids. Not very original or creative,
but it did the trick because he's on steroids, brought
out a dancing Fernando Tattoos. He started to dance to
it and mock the crowd and stuff, and like, I thought,
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this was the Fernando Tattis that had learned so much
from his experience, and he's no longer this immature child
who who took the whatever he called it there. You know,
I don't even know what the reasoning was for taking
the story in the first place was, but I thought
he had turned things around. Dancing to Chance of your
on steroids doesn't look like a new mature player, Doug.
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He's annoying for a lot of reasons, but dancing to
Chance of your own steroids is the most recent.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Uh, I'm gonna give him a pass on it, because
there's a lot worse reactions to it, the defensive reaction,
the lying reaction, all the other stuff he comparison to
the annoyance of everybody else.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I'm gonna allow it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So I'm gonna go with most annoying steven A Smith
because of the platform and what his voice kind of
presents to us. Steven A Smith, steven A Smith, You're.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
All right, we'll do an open in a break.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Now, let's do it because we can.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's good, all right, three two one, Let's play something
because we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Because we can.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Aj Prazinski a former catcher, former White Sox catcher, he
wanted to ring with the White Sox, so he had
current White Sox starting pitcher Lance Lynn on his podcast,
and he started it this way, as.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
A White Sox fan, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Please please tell me why? Please please explain what the fuck.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Somewhere?
Speaker 9 (31:25):
Give me pope, please to be to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
We are in the midst of everybody learning a whole
new way of going about things in this organization.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
So that's it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's because the question, because that Aj Persinsky presented the question.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
What the fuck is up with the White Sox? Yeah,
I love it? To a current player, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's it's what we all wanted to ask, and he
actually asked in the way we all want to ask.
Aj Persinski, You're a boss. Thank you so much for
providing that content because we can. All right, that's it
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On a daily basis, we try and determine who's the
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and the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader,
the iHeartRadio app. We play for you a portion of
a previous show Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about Kawhi Leonard and his time with
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
This is the fourth consecutive year that Kawhi and Paul
Georgia struggle to stay healthy and now the Clippers right
a crossroad.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
What do you got it?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You got them for one more year than a player
option in twenty twenty four. Rest of your roster can
also be free agents in twenty twenty four. I mean,
it's nice to have Terrence Mann and Norm Powell. Tylu's
a really good coach, but Steve Balmer is going to
be moving into that new arena twenty twenty four to
twenty twenty five. You'd certainly like to have a competitive
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roster there. Maybe you need to change in the front
office there. But watching the Clippers this entire series, and
I did think even with Kawhi healthy, that they could
beat the Phoenix Sons. With Paul George, I thought that
they would definitely beat the Phoenix Sons because it's a
deep roster, really good coach. But you can't keep these
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guys healthy, certainly Kawhi. Now can you trade them? Who's
gonna want Kawhi knowing that you're going to get him
maybe for sixty games maybe, And keep in mind there
was load management earlier this year the entire regular season,
so you could have him for the postseason. Even with
load management, he wasn't able to go.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I guess here's the problem, right, Are you going to
bail on Kawhi Leonard after he comes off the last
month of the half of the season where he's the
best player in the NBA. It's like, I just I
don't understand. Here's my I had this discussion literally before
the show where we were talking about the homeless problem
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in Los Angeles, and it's one of those things where
there are a million people who want to point out
who's to blame and how big a disaster it is.
But what I asked is, do you have a solution?
Does anybody have a solution to the problem. It's well
(03:55):
established there is a homeless problem with the Los Angeles, right,
what is the actual solution? So if we'd say the
problem with Kawhi Leonard and with Paul George's they're not
and can't stay healthy, it's legitimate. It's legitimate, But what
is your actual solution to it? What is your solution
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to it? You're allowed to say you're frustrated or what
I've always said, which is I don't believe in curses,
except for the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
They're clearly cursed. Right, It's not just this.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's Chris Paul getting hurt, it's Paul George getting COVID.
You know what was it? Was it last year that
Paul George got COVID? I mean, you name it. It's
gone wrong for the Clippers. And so with all of
that in mind, I get it we're all collectively frustrated
because it feels like they put together a big time
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roster with a big time coach, and they have money
behind it, and the owner has done everything in his
power to kind of change the narrative, but it just
hasn't worked out. What is the solution. What's my solution?
I think you need to continue to You need to
find a point guard in the offseason. You know, you
need to find a point guard offseason. You need to
have a stable roster, and you need to put a
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plan in place for Kawhi Leonard on how much he's
going to play and how he's going to play and
all those other things at the same thing for Paul
George and maybe even you want to share that plan.
The problem isn't necessary the load management. The problem is that, man,
they're really, really, really really cloak and dagger with it. Yes,
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John Romins, Doug.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
They seem to play very well without the players, Like
they played a good game last night. They only lost
like six points to a very good Phoenix team. They
seem to have a very good team built around that
can withstand very well with altitude players. I mean, obviously
they need them, but they got something going positive. They
just got to find something to kind of work it
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all out right. I mean, I don't know, are you
are you happy with the Clippers at how they're constructed?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, I think they they didn't have a point guard.
They made some bad choices and probably should have gone
out and got Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But they do.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They have a good team, they have a good roster,
and they're used to playing without those guys because they
sit so much during the regular season. But if to
win a championship, you got to have those guys and
they got to be healthy. And I don't know another
solution other than you just try again. You you just
try again. So uh, here's Colin Cowherd talking about Aaron
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Rodgers and the Packers.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Outside of John Lway with the Broncos and maybe Derek
Jeter with the Yankees, anything that's ever been great for
a long time in sports almost never ends gracefully. Michael
Jordan and the Bulls ended with animosity. Brady and Belichick's
dynasty ended with animal Kobe Shaq, Phil Jackson ended with animosity.
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Farv in Green Bay, Dan Marino in Miami ended with turbulence.
I mean, all Laker fans will tell you Jerry West,
Phil Jackson, pat Riley, all of those end bumpy in
LA all of them, even Jerry West, he was mister Laker.
So that's the way it ends. Even the Beatles ended
with turbulence, ugly animosity. Maybe it's men needing control, needing leverage,
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a pat on the back. But I look at the
Jets and I'm like, hey, it's not gonna last very long.
This is a one or a two year deal. A
lot of smiles can't wait to watch it. But this
stuff always ends poorly.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Almost every departure from a place, well, you know, again
depends upon departure. But my guess is that over the
next year and a half, two years, everyone in Green
Bay just talks shit on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's what will happen. How do I know?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's what happens most places, especially places that are off
the beaten path a little bit. You know, where you
felt like you were really a part of it. You
told us it was a special place, and yet you
did everything in your power to get out of that
special place because you didn't want to be there or
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live there in the off season, right, And for whatever reason,
sometimes it's because of how you acted when you're there,
or maybe how you acted when you left, or the
fact that they find it hypocritical, or maybe it's because
they're jealous that you got out and they did not.
That's also part of it, but I found it interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know, there was.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A Brady Quinn has a rant which relates to this,
and I want to kind of combine the two commentary.
Here's Brady Quinn, part of Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe talking about Aaron rodgers departure.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
One of the articles that kind of popped up was
talking about how Dak Prescott's now the longest current tenured
quarterback with his team.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and I think we've seen.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
The end of an era in regards to how long
quarterbacks play with those franchises. I just don't think you're
going to see that very much. I mean, Patrick Mahomes,
maybe you look at him and you say, Okay, he's
got a chance because he chose to science such a
long term deal. It's a great setup. But if Andy
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Reid's not there and he might not feel confident in
who they bring in, depending on who that may be,
you got to wonder if they don't start to look
at going elsewhere. You know a lot of these guys
who are younger quarterbacks kind of born into a league.
Now that's seen Aaron Rodgers go from Green Bay after
being there what eighteen years or long an than that
ever was and move on.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
To the Jets.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
They've watched Tom Brady move off from New England to
go to the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Russell Wilson as well, he's not I mean, he's more
of a contemporary than when the old school guys. But
not to get in a separate conversation, but when you
look at it, you go, yeah, this is probably the
end of an era of seeing players stay for one
long period of tie with one team. And I'm not
gonna say like the NBA had an impact on it,
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because players have always eventually gone on moved to another team.
But even the NBA to a degree, I think a
lot of players it's very rare for you to see
them want to stay in one place.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, there is a millennial aspect to it, where people
move much more readily.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
The problem with it is twofold one.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It hasn't happened as much as common perception would lead
you to believe, right like Philip Rivers forever and then
last year with the Colts, that's actually more the norm
and go back in look historically Dann Reno play with
one team Ben Roethlisberger just retired, played with one team.
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Those guys are the exception. The rule has been the
last year or two, you play it out with somebody else.
And I think we'll see the same thing here Joe Burrow.
I think we'll remain with the Cincinni Bengals. They'll give
him a gigantic, super long term contract. He's from Ohio,
like all of that, and then maybe end of his
career he tries something different.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Justin Herbert. Do you think the Chargers are gonna let
Justin Herbert go? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They'll do whatever it takes to have him under contract.
And if Pat Mahomes like a contract and Pat Mahomes
now Mike, those guys go elsewhere at the very end
of their deal.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yes. Do you know why?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Because every other fucking quarterback has done that too, like
to what Tom Brady did is more the norm than
the exception. Name for me an all time great quarterback
Joe Namath didn't only play with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Feel free like go Round.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Tony Romo only played, and Troy Aikman they only played
their career with the Cowboys, and those guys just I mean,
Tony Romo just retired a couple years ago, but a
good part of the reason had to be they got hurt.
Their careers were cut by injury. Aaron Rodgers went as
a place more than a decade was was Russell Wilson
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more than a decade Like injury has led to guys
either shutting it down early or Peyton Manning leaving the Colts. Otherwise,
you hold on to the guy as long as he
can until you think, you know, you reach this point.
This is not what NBA people, what NFL people fear
about the NBA, which is what Lamar Jackson is doing,
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holding a team hostage and even though there's a contract extension,
then leaving anyway, which is a very strong possibility.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So do I think this is a change? I do not.
And the irony to it is.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Brady trying to convince us it's a change when it's
actually the exact same path that Brett farvwent Like, we
just saw this. We just saw this, and we saw
it with Tom Brady, and we're seeing it with Russell Wilson,
and we you know, we see it with with with
lots of older quarterbacks who at some point you price
yourself out or you just you've been around each other
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too long, and you move on.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's where the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
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Speaker 3 (13:23):
Who is annoying? Jason Stewart, It's a question I asked
myself every day.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Hello there, Hello dog, Hello, dear.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
Hey. So I was watching first Take today and this
is just a part of what stephen A said. But
he kept he kept qualifying. Everything he said this morning
was I'm not saying that he's not injured. But and
then he'll say something like this, and.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
This is the difference between him and a Paul Joey
or various other people.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We see them get hurt.
Speaker 9 (14:05):
We'll watch Kawhi drop thirty eight one game like he
did in Game one against me, and he's thirty one
a game two, walk off the court, and then the
next thing you know, Tyler gets a net.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He ain't he ain't.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Available today, and by the way, hein't available next week,
and he ain't available the next game. You don't know why,
but you hear, and you hear, and you hear stories,
yet they have a medical staff.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
You hear about he got his own medical his own
medical team, But damn thea said me, fied, he's never
helped me when it counts. And again, if you're not
marketing and promoting the sport, if you're not, if all
you're doing is saying I'm gonna grab my lunch pail
and play for fifty percent of the time, you ain't
grabbing your lunch pail to play.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
I think my frustration is the same with yours here.
I don't know what his point is because.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He has no fucking point except what he wants his
point to be. But he's he actually is pet your
of what he thinks, which is bullshit. He thinks the
guy ain't hurt that he could play. He thinks he's
a pussy, That's what he thinks. The worst part about
it is that here's the guy who has called out
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numerous other people, okay, falsely calling them out, whatever, And
this is how he's lived, how he's made his career,
calling guys out, and yet he's clearly afraid of saying
something which is complete bullshit. By the way, right, so
he has his own medical team and they should be fired.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Why why?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Here's my problem with Stephen a okay, and I if
this is performance art right, going on and making himself
the story instead of the actual story, which is, I
can't believe the Clippers two best players or hurt again.
That's the story. There is no other story. There is
no other don't make anything up about the load management
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and all that, like that's part of the Hey does
it actually protect you? Does it actually help you? Or
does it hurt you? But the story is the Clippers
have done just about everything right in trying to build
their franchise to be a championship count. They're building their
own arena, they're starting their own brand, they're doing their
own thing.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They went and they got.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Two Southern California born players to come back and try
and raise their first banner in arena where they're the
third tenant.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Right. They're doing everything they fucking can.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
They went out and got a championship coach who the
other team wanted to be their coach but wouldn't pay
him the additional years. They've done everything right. That's the story,
the only story. Nothing else. But he's like calling out
the management to the medical staff team. Why calling out
Kawhi Leonard. Why wait, he has to promote the So
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you want him to be a TikToker is what I get. Like,
the only thing that matters is if you play and
if you win. That's the only thing that actually fucking matters.
All the other stuff is bullshit, And so you wanted
to fake and have a personality. He doesn't have no right.
Kawhi is KWHI. That's the deal. Everyone knows the deal
with Kawhi Leonard. Well, he doesn't promote the This is
(17:08):
like the Mike Trout argument. You know, Mike Trout doesn't
promote himself on social media. He's not a fucking clown.
He's just the best baseball player in the sport.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Unfortunately, his franchise sucks and there's nothing he can do
about it except go to work every day and try
and be the best Mike Trout he can be, which
is the same thing that Kawhi Leonard tries to do,
you know. I mean, like, look, here's the deal with
Steven A. If he had this exact same presentation in
message on a regional sports network, no one would ever watch.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No one would ever watch.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He benefits from the fact, he's audience been He said
nothing of an except saying something fucking stupid, which he
basically alludes to. He doesn't think he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
He thinks the.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Medical stat medical team that Kawhi has doesn't do a
good job, and he's really healthy and they're telling him
not to play, and because he didn't see him get hurt,
how can he believe that he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I mean, that's all one dumb, dumb shit.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And what it is, is what he's really saying is
I don't think he's hurt because I didn't see him
get hurt, So he can't possibly be hurt because I
know what getting hurt looks like. And maybe he's hurt,
but he's not injured. Get out there and play. This
generation is so soft, like okay, and I mean JJ reddick.
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He had a great point and then he kind of
lost his point because he wandered around in the woods
talking about all kinds of other shit that doesn't matter,
you know, But he said, like, do you know how
bad a quad ten and tear actually is? Have you
ever torn your acl so when you have those two injuries,
which are two injuries that Kawhi Leonard had, and oh yeah,
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by the way, when he tore his ACL is a
partial tear and no one knew. It was just like
his knee was kind of wonky. It felt like an ACL,
but you couldn't really tell. And you know, the the
Clippers only true issue is that they actually provide true
confidentiality for their players. Their only true issue is that
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because they don't tell and nobody nothing about nothing, which
is what you're supposed to do, suddenly they're the bad guys.
Or it's all about Kawhi because he doesn't want his
medical information shared, which is actually a much stronger stance.
It's the guys like who leak information out constantly. Those
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are the people that want to be liked by the media.
Those are the people that want to be liked.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
By the public. Kawhi Leonard doesn't care. He wants to play.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And if you didn't think he wanted to play, then
why the hell was he the best player in the
NBA last month, the half of the season, arguably the
best player in the court in Game one and even
into Game two, like this whole like Russell Westbrook played
so great in Game one, No he didn't. He was
fucking three of nineteen. He made a couple of good
defensive plays. You know who carried them. His name is
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Kawhi fucking Leonard at both ends of the court. Watch
the game, don't make and oh yeah, here's the frustrating
part about steven A. Okay, I believe he's in any
conversation the most powerful people in media right and he's
on a network that is a rights holder for the NBA.
So here's the thing. Why don't you pick up the
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phone and call Kawhi Leonard. He will take your call.
And if he won't, his uncle will. And if he won't,
Lawrence Frank Will, Hey, Jerry Westwill, tylu Will. You may
have to hear some yelling at the other end. You
may have to look, man, I just want to know
what's really going on. That's what's embarrassing about steven A.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And he did this shit.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He did this shit when persingis okay, Persingis went on,
go and google it, old takes exposed. He went on
and killed persingis for anybody for drafting him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You remember who they wanted to draft.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, they wanted to draft the kid out of Duke
hold On real quickly find it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Edit this part.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Uh, Justice Winslow. He wanted to draft Justice Winslow. Okay,
and he went on and.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
On and on about it.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
I'm done with the New York Knicks. I'm done with them.
How could they not draft Justice Winslow, Okay. He lives
and works in New York City. Persingi's had several workouts
open to the media in New York City. This is
where you're lazy. That's it. It's just laziness because he
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has the world at his fingertips and he doesn't even
have to go to Prisingis's workout.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Call anybody you know and respect and go like, hey man,
I couldn't get over to Basketball City. Did you see
the Presingius workout. Yeah, he's really fucking good. Seventy moves,
he can shoot, like, got a chance, right, And Perzingis
hasn't been an all NBA caliber guy.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Obviously, injury set him back.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know, I don't know if he's he's not great,
but you know he's better than He's better than Justice Winslow.
And everybody who covered the NBA knew. The NBA knew
that going in. The only person who didn't with Steven A.
And it wasn't because steven A is not smart. It
wasn't because steven A is not good at his job.
It's because he got fucking lazy doing too many things
and just hey, what's what's the topic. Oh, I'm gonna
(22:33):
kill this guy because I haven't seen him and he's
a foreign player, and it's easy to have a foreign
player because they have no fans here where. By the way,
most of the best players in the NBA are foreign players. No,
they're not. Okay, who's the last three, who's the last
what four? MVPs Jokic and Todakoumpo and probably this year Embiid.
(22:58):
But it's easy in the NBA draft to rip a
guy who hasn't played here because nobody knows and you
don't have boys on Twitter or boys to back you up.
Whereas Justice Winslow had just played for Duke and had played, well,
there you go. It's not that hard, and he's doing
the same thing here. The Clippers don't provide any information.
(23:21):
Kawhi Leonard don't provide any information, so obviously somebody who's
close to him is like, dude, Kawhi, he could totally play,
which if that's your take, by the way, have that take,
go for it. But this halfway take is complete bullshit
and it's just lazy because all he's got to he's
Steven A.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Smith. If he calls me right now on air, I
put him on. Do you know why he's Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
This is not me talking shit on Steven A. Smith
in terms of his name or his talent. This is
me telling you that if he actually called anybody in
LA that works for the Clippers, they would probably tell
him the real deal and he would have a real
sensible take. And then maybe if his take is, hey, man,
I talk to somebody with the Clippers and they know
they think he could play and his medical team is bullshit,
(24:06):
or the real take, which is it's just terrible luck.
Everybody else, every other team in the NBA load managed
to get to this point for various reasons. Right Andrew
Wiggins missed time because of a family thing. Right the
Lakers Lebron was hurt, but they also sat Anthony Davis.
(24:27):
They load managed.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Go through it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The Phoenix Suns KD got hurt, but I look, they
also kind of managed that. They managed Booker. There were
some questions about how much they played KD. At the
end of the season as he was getting back into
playoff shape, like everybody's doing the same thing. They're just
going about it. And the Clippers of the team who
Paul George gets hurt right before the playoffs, terrible luck
like two weeks for the playoffs, terrible luck in a
(24:54):
game and Kawhi Leonard gets hurt in game one. So
what is you point other than, hey man, it's apparently
too hard to pick up the phone and fucking call
somebody in.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
LA and just to put a button on that very
well said. He was the one who told Dan LeBatard,
don't put skipping me in the category of hot takers
because we were journalists. Yes, yes, none of what he
said this morning had to do with journalism. In fact,
as you point out, it was the opposite. It was
mailing the shit in and throwing shit out there that
(25:27):
might stick.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
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Speaker 8 (25:39):
So CJ. Stroud spoke to reporters today, I don't know
what I'm most annoyed about this, CJ. His handlers, somebody
who fed on this line, but he said, according to
the referring to the he was it the S two
test that has taken down his stock considerably. He says,
I'm not a test taker, I'm a football player, and
(26:03):
that I think in his mind that was like a
walk off line.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, that was that was his jerk store line.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Really there's a lot. There's a lot to be annoyed by.
I don't know if that's his line, So I can't
blame him specifically. Maybe a low level marketing guy that
fed them the line, but he said it, Doug.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's one of those lines where around your guys, and
again if you watch on social media, you're like, I'm
in that's my guy. But here's the other side to it.
That's him admitting he did score an eighteen percent on
the S two test. It also is telling you that
he's he's doing the I think the average guy thinks
(26:44):
it's like a written, standard, standardized test. You walk in
and it is not at all. You can't study for it,
you can't prep for it. It does not there's no
like have to check your work it is. It is
simply a test which is used in a variety. These
tests are used in other forms of work, but it's one.
(27:05):
It's that's simply based upon your ability to decipher information
and the rate at which you process it.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And that message of hey, I'm a really good football
player anyway, and don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Like again, that's that. That's to me.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's not the message I'd like my quarterback to have, right,
ask me the same question, Hey, what's your what's.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Your response to the report about the low S two.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Score Listen, I'm I'm embarrassed by it. Embarrassed by it.
You know, probably should have locked in a little bit
more that day. Maybe I didn't, you know, in hindsight,
I didn't know what I was in for, and maybe
I should have kind of prepped for it with my.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Team a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
But like, look, this is the ability to decipher information
and read average. Those are things that are gained over time.
And if you ask anybody to Ohio State, I have
a great work ethic and I wouldn't be in this
position to be drafted highly if people didn't think that
I was intelligent and talented and whatever I lack, I
think I can make up by just getting in the
(28:17):
film room, getting on the field and being a great quarterback.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Whose answer is better, Yeah, that's second one's better. And then, uh,
I just don't want him teaching. He's not a good
test taker. Yeah, I don't want him teaching.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Just I just go touchdowns, like dude, just you know,
everybody like everybody throws touchdowns at a hos State.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Everybody throws touchdowns a hostate you now.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, look, Justin Fields had arguably the greatest season,
maybe in argument, the greatest season in the history of
Ohio State football. And I think it'd be fair to
say that Justin Fields is not does not appear to
be a great processor the line of scrimmage, and Justin
Field is the only success story they have at Oha
(29:05):
ste matter of fact, the best quarterback ever to come
out of Oha State transferred out of Ohio State and
went to LSU because what it takes to be successful
in college, it doesn't necessarily take to be successful in
the pros.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Okay, you got it? One more, three, two, one? Uh hum.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Fernando Tatiss was in I want to say, leftfield or
rightfield last night in Chicago, and he was greeted with
chants of he's on steroids. Not very original or creative,
but it did the trick because he's on steroids, brought
out a dancing Fernando Tattoos. He started to dance to
it and mock the crowd and stuff, and like, I thought,
(29:48):
this was the Fernando Tattis that had learned so much
from his experience, and he's no longer this immature child
who who took the whatever he called it there. You know,
I don't even know what the reasoning was for taking
the story in the first place was, but I thought
he had turned things around. Dancing to Chance of your
on steroids doesn't look like a new mature player, Doug.
(30:10):
He's annoying for a lot of reasons, but dancing to
Chance of your own steroids is the most recent.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Uh, I'm gonna give him a pass on it, because
there's a lot worse reactions to it, the defensive reaction,
the lying reaction, all the other stuff he comparison to
the annoyance of everybody else.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I'm gonna allow it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So I'm gonna go with most annoying steven A Smith
because of the platform and what his voice kind of
presents to us. Steven A Smith, steven A Smith, You're.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
All right, we'll do an open in a break.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Now, let's do it because we can.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's good, all right, three two one, Let's play something
because we can't.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Because we can.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Aj Prazinski a former catcher, former White Sox catcher, he
wanted to ring with the White Sox, so he had
current White Sox starting pitcher Lance Lynn on his podcast,
and he started it this way, as.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
A White Sox fan, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Please please tell me why? Please please explain what the fuck.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Somewhere?
Speaker 9 (31:25):
Give me pope, please to be to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
We are in the midst of everybody learning a whole
new way of going about things in this organization.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
So that's it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's because the question, because that Aj Persinsky presented the question.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
What the fuck is up with the White Sox? Yeah,
I love it? To a current player, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's it's what we all wanted to ask, and he
actually asked in the way we all want to ask.
Aj Persinski, You're a boss. Thank you so much for
providing that content because we can. All right, that's it
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