May 23, 2024 • 27 mins
Doug riffs on Luka Doncic. Doug reacts to Paul Pierce's take about the Dallas Mavericks. Doug chooses between deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Stephen A Smith makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show here in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie What.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Up Doug Gottlieb Show. So last night in the playoffs,
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uh luka, Doncik played great in the fourth quarter, Kyrie
being kind of led uh the Mavericks in the first half,
and the MAVs taking one game to unlead over the
Minnesota Timberwolves. And it's weird, right, It's weird that we're
gonna sit here. Let's just say that Luca gets to
the finals. Let's say, and I granted they still have
(00:53):
to win three more games, can be really hard. Timberwolves
have more quote unquote talent, have a really good team,
and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
But if I said that Timboles had more talent, I
don't think any of you would disagree, would you know?
So when I look at all of these things, I'm
(01:15):
sitting here going I wonder if they make the NBA finals,
if anybody will make the Lebron comparison, will they I
like Derek Lively. I think he's gonna be awesome, and
he's played well for them in the NBA playoffs, But
is he currently awesome. Is he a top fifteen center
in the NBA? No, doesn't even start for the team.
(01:39):
I love Kyrie Irving. I believe Kyrie Irving's a Hall
of Fame caliber player. But is he playing at a
peak level?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He was amazing last night, But Kyrie, the consistency is
not there as he gets a little bit longer than
the tooth. And that's not his role on this team.
But you should do yourself a favor. Compare the rocks
of the Mavericks with well, the roster of Lebron's first
Calves team, which we give so much credit, rightfully so
for reaching the NBA finals. That's the kind of work
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that Luca has done and will do. And it's just
interesting to me on how I haven't heard anybody say, like,
can you imagine if he gets to the finals with
that roster in the West, because we've had the weird
rosters get to the finals in the East. Heck, you know,
even the conference finals. That's what happened with the Hawks
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is they got to the conference finals a couple years
ago and they've been forever chasing that shadow since. But
in terms of the NBA Finals, that would be remarkable
if you consider where the rest of his franchise is,
how hard it's been, and what they're going to have
to accomplish it to or to get there. I don't
give somebody the crown of best player in the world lightly,
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but if I had to, if I had a gun
point in my head and somebody said, who's the best
player in the world, I would say, Luka Duncheon.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Let's Get what the Fox Says.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And now what does the fuck say?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Every day of this time of The Doug Gottlieb Show,
we played for you a portion of a previous show
on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. Here is Brady
Quinn LeVar Arrington. They had this exchange about the NFL
potentially having an eighteen game schedule and what it means
for the players.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I hate the fact that since Roger Goodell has taken over,
and I'm sure people are gonna take shots at me
for saying, well, it's a boosts you know, they should
be concerned about raising revenue, you know, creating putting more
money and lining the pockets of the owners. You are
losing your product, like you're losing a piece of this.
In your desire to try to make as much money
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as humanly possible for these owners, You're gonna lose the
quality of the game, the quality of the product in
many different ways. And so I get concerned about that,
and I just hope Lloyd Howell Junior now has taken over,
as was recently elected as the executive director for the NFLPA,
get lifetime health care like that would be the biggest
(04:15):
stamp ever for an executive director in my opinion, for
the NFLPA, if they were to be able to get
lifetime health care, do it pro actively. That's that's part
of it. Yeah, that's part of it. Because obviously the
players who are you know, currently you know, playing in
the NFL, they'll receive it. Guys five years out, they
can receive it. But they that comes in saying that
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it's going to be for the older generations, the older players.
Typically most collective bardiing agreements have put in some you know,
protective measures for older players past generations. And so I'm
not just saying this for myself. I'm standing for guys
who are way older than I am that need it
right now badly.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I just I'm sorry, Brady, but I don't care.
Nobody cares, including the current players. If they cared, then
you know what they wouldn't do. They wouldn't have played
the sixteenth or seventeenth game. We're good, they just would not, Okay,
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if they cared, they wouldn't play those games. Instead, they
signed a collective Barton agreement which is ten years in length.
Ten years in length, and this is the deal, and
it opens up for the eighteenth game, and the reason
the players want it is and this is like, look, Brady,
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I get it. You're trying to position yourself as being
on the player's side as a former player, But can
we stop with the lining the owners pockets. Yes, the
owners run a business and they will benefit from this,
but there's a collective Bardon agreement and the players benefit
from it. If the players don't want to play, then
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they all extra games. Then they should say, hey, we're
good with the money we're making. We don't want to
make more money. This is a way to add make
added revenues. That's what it is. And the whole the
product sucks and Jason Stewart has brought that up in
the past. One I disagree with. Two. This brings in
a second bye week. They they don't practice as much,
(06:23):
they don't hit as much. They have made it as
easy as possible in an incredibly violent game to perform
and perform well through the lifetime of the season and
stay and play. And we're seeing players play into the thirties,
quarterbacks play in their forties. So give it a fucking rest. Okay,
it's such a it's it's just alarming the amount of
(06:45):
bullshit when you get from like the owners rely in
their pockets some of the players. If they gave a
shit about about lifetime healthcare insurance, then you know what
they would do. They would direct part of the revenue
to go to lifetime healthcare insurance. They don't do you
know why, because they don't give a shit either side
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the players. They do this all the time. And anyone
who's ever done a business deal knows this is the
worst possible thing you can do. You signed and agreed
to a deal, and then you bitch about the deal
for the lifetime of deal. Like man, what like what
you signed the deal? There was no lockout, There was
no strike there was. It was a really kind of
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seamless negotiation. And now we're going to complain about it. Nah,
I don't get it. Paul Pierce said this about the
Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I like Dallas and six for the simple fact the
championship DNA is pretty much oozing all over their locker room.
When you talk about Kyrie, Jason Kidd, and let's not
forget the championship moments that Luca had in Europe, playing
in hostile environments. People you know don't know about that,
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or that goes underestimating. I'm a little concerned about Minnesota.
You know a man didn't play well. Let that be
Jason Tatum goes nineteen and ten. We'll be all over
him the next day. Look at what we've done. Some
have already given the face to the league. Some say
when they get to the finals and winning champions he's
the face of Jordan. So if you're getting all these comparisons,
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you got to show up.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Now.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I understand that you haven't been in this moment, but
Luke and Kyrie have. And when I hear things like
you're tired, that struck me because now everybody's tired at
this point, and for the first time I see a
chink in his armor because I didn't see this before.
When they went down three two, what do you do?
We'll be back in seven. Throughout the playoffs, he's constantly
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giving his teammates confidence when they're down and out or
when they're up. I never saw him say anything like this,
you know, I'm tired, So for the first time, I'm like, oh, oh,
that's not what I want to hear from a young guy.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Look, I watched the Dallas Mavericks and I cannot tell
you how much I respect and appreciate Luca. And the
reason is, Kyrie's not easy. Kyrie doesn't profess to be easy.
It didn't always work, and it may not always work
even in the series together. But the fact is that
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Luca seems to totally get how to work with people.
To be that type of superstar at this age without
having won a title, and to command and get the
respect of Kyrie, Irving and the rest of Obviously, the
roster is a great thing. So I think it's pretty
amazing what the Mavericks are doing. And granted we're only
one game into the Western Conference Finals. Here's Dan Patrick
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talking with Charles Barkley.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Morel sucks, plain and simple. You know, I just feel
so bad for the people I work with.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
You know, these people have families, and I just really
feel bad for them right now. You know, these people
I work with, they screwed this thing up clearly, and
we don't have zero idea what's going to happen. I
don't feel good. I'm not going to lie. Especially when
they came out yesterday and said we bought college football,
I was like, well, damn, they could have used that
(10:20):
money to buy the NBA. We've never had college football,
that never been involved with college football, and I'm like,
wait a minute, shouldn't we be spending every dime we
got to keep the NBA? So morale sucks. To be
honest with you, Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was wondering about this. I don't know if you
guys have talked about this, but you and Shaq and
Kenny and Ernie, how about just form a production company
and continue to shoot, continue to do the inside the NBA,
hire the personnel, keep the personnel there, continue to do
it in Atlanta, and then you're able to sell that
to NBC or Amazon and say here, you already got
(10:57):
the best studio show ready to go, keep everybody in place.
But you guys own your own production company.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Well, I've talked to the guys about everybody sign up
with my production company because I have my own production
company and I want to I would love to do
that if we lose it. But I have definitely had Actually,
somebody suggested that to me, to be honest with you
on the internet. So why don't Yalas Barker sign these
three guys, four guys total, this his production company and
(11:26):
sell it. I'm like, that's a great idea. Yeah, But
like I say, you know, we're just sitting back waiting
on these people to figure out what they're gonna do.
You know, you know, my two favorite wines are Inglenook
and Opus, and these clowns I work for they've turned
us into Ripple and Boone Farm and Thunderberg. Like we
got the best studio show we want, we just and
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it's so funny. We just want the best studio show.
But these foods turn us from Inglenook and Opah's into
damn Boone Farm and Ripple. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I love. I mean, Charles is literally the only guy
who get with that, the only guy that got with
the only one. It does suck, but it is a business.
And the ask when you have you know, when you
work for Warner Brothers and when you work for Time Warner,
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and you know they're going through their own financial difficulties.
And then somebody says, hey, are you going to pony
up two x of what we have now against and like,
you really can't compete with Amazon money, You just can't.
They have They just printed every time you order something
from Prime you are, so you can't compete with that.
NBC along with Comcast, the BID's just too much, and
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ESPN their offer was obscene as well. Sometimes you just
get out bid for something. It does suck. There's just
no way around it. And I love Charles leading with
his heart and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Hey Doug, yes, what percentage of our listeners do you
think understands that wine joke?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Everybody?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I have never heard of any of those brands?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You ever heard of Opus?
Speaker 8 (13:14):
Never?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love Charles.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I caught the Bonez Farm.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I caught the Boons Farm because everybody knows Boons Farm
is right.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
That's just like that's not even wine. That's like is
it cheap wine?
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Is that what it is, for it looks like you.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Never had boons Farm wine when you're a kid, when
you're like in high school.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Never.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's definitely under h j.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Opus is like between three fifty and four fifty a bottle.
It's expensive.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
That's what I was wondering. So it's a kind of
a rich guy joke or analogy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's we have, yes, it's I mean, you could have
made the You could have made the analogy of cars,
you know whatever. You could make the analogy of sneakers.
You can make the analogy you want. But basically, we
are the best, and we're being traded like we're high
school kids drinking the wine high school kids drink when
they're trying to, you know, sneak it or something that
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the cheapest of cheap makes sense.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
No, no, I get it. I I just I wonder
how many heads that went over. That sounds like a
rich guy talking to a rich guy and then laughing
over privileged stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I actually thought it was a perfect joke because if
you haven't drank Opus, you've probably drank Boonz Farm, and
then you may not know what Opus is, but you
definitely know what boons Farm is. That's what the Fox
said Say.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
I don't know. I didn't know who this guy was
before this morning. But Charles Curtis writes for USA Today.
He does a column or something for the win. I
don't know. I'll just read the headline. The chief silence
on Harrison Butker's misogynistic and homophobic comments is beyond acceptable, Sorry,
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beyond unacceptable. That's the key. So Charles Curtis writes an
entire column laying out why the chiefs need to respond.
Not only do they need to respond, but they need
to condemn in words what Butker said about women. This
is what living in an echo chamber of ideas reads like.
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I encourage our listeners to read the column, and I
challenge you to not get pissed off by the Unamerican
rhetoric that he is stating. One of my Twitter followers said,
up perfectly, It's like it's almost like this this is
an AI column for left wing propaganda. This can't be
(16:09):
an actual person. It's just an AI column calling for
someone to be silenced. Charles Curtis, you're annoyed.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I mean, I just we take things to mean things
that they don't. Look. Look, here's the reality to it. Okay,
Well let's have a real discussion about it. That's what
this podcast is for. Do I think there's some misogynistic
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comments in his commentary? Of course? Do I think you
can make a link towards homophobia, Maybe seems like a
bit of a stretch. Okay, but here's the reality. And
this is as somebody who has been a radical centrist
but fairly left leaning my entire life, my entire life. Okay,
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I can only tell you this to be a fact,
which is like, look, we can make people say what
you want them to say, but it's only good to
create more negative feelings towards that side. The point is,
for example, homosexuality in my world, I couldn't possibly care
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any less what your sexual orientation is, could not has
zero effect on me none. I have friends that are gay,
I have friends that are straight. Most of my friends
are straight, but I have gay friends. Okay, one of
my dear friends is she's she's lesbian, she has a child,
she's been married to same woman for like a decade.
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She's but again, she's not awesome because she's lesbian. I'm
not bragging like I just has zero effect on me.
But I also I'm a realist to understand that a
lot of people, especially those who are religious, Hey, disagree
with that lifestyle. Hey, some people think it's a choice. Again,
I don't. The point is that you're actually allowed to
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say and think these things, which you're not allowed to
do is impinge on their civil rights. That's what you're
not allowed to do. You're not allowed to hire or
not hire somebody or allow them into your restaurant. Are
not allowed based upon your their sexual orientation, your perception
of their sexual oriitation. You're not. And this idea the
crazy part about the super far left, and it's a minority,
(18:34):
a small minority, But the crazy part is it's supposed
to be this portion of our culture that is ultra accepting,
and the problem is that they're ultra accepting of everybody
except for someone who doesn't believe in what they believe in.
That's am I am, I fairly accurate or a hulf
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percent acurate their Jason.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
No, I think that's the paradigm shift, and that's what
Bill Maher talks about.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Right now. Look now, look now, Look the part that
people that escapes is escapes is there's a lot of
people who are in the far right who want to
act like there anti homosexual and many some of them
are fact are gay again twhich I don't care, but
it's clearly a cover and we've seen it be uncovered.
(19:21):
So there's a bunch of hypocrites on both sides. Okay,
the far right and the far left are are can
be incredibly hypocritical. Most of us are in the middle
and Harrison Butker's comments came to me as he so
badly wanted what he's gotten, which is attention for this machismo,
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alpha male whatever. Where the truth is like, if you're
really comfortable in yourself as a man and yourself as
a leader of your family, you don't have to say shit,
you don't have to like that doesn't have to be
a point. You don't have to like convince people that
you're more of a man. That's my belief. I don't
so I think the biggest issues with is with the
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hypocrisy of both fringes, both fringes of it, you know again,
and like the super far right is many of very
religious and very anti whatever. Like okay, but you believe
in Jesus, right, Yes, was Jesus not benevolent? Was Jesus
not somebody who let every took in the lepers, you know,
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took in those who others would not take in shore
So there's a hypocrisy on both sides, and it's freaking annoying, annoying.
And this particular gentleman is annoying because he's he's doing
the very easy thing, which is labeling Harrison Butker to
somehow make a point and call him names, which is stupid.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Well, he says that the chief's silence on this is unacceptable.
Little does he know that the error to the chiefs.
The daughter of one of the owners or the wife
of one of the owners went on Fox News last
week and supported Bucker. Their best player yesterday supported him.
Their head coach supported him. I don't know why he
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didn't mention this. Each of these entities. Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes said, I don't agree with everything he thinks,
but that doesn't mean I'm going to not include him
in our team, and that, to me is the very
crux of this. You don't have to agree with what
he says, but he has the right to think it.
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I personally, Doug, the only experience I could draw from
is my own experience. My mother stayed at home and
raised me and my sister, and I know for a
fact that I'm better off because of that. And I
felt bad for my friends that were latchkey kids that
had to go home with no parents and cook microwave dinners.
I know I'm better off for it. That's my own experience.
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Is there something wrong with knowing that I'm a better
person because my mom chose to stay home and raise me.
I don't get that part. I don't know how that's
homophobic or misogynists or sexist. I'm just I'm speaking of
my experience.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hey listen, so I'll speak to my my My mom was.
My mom worked and but her first my first five
years in California, she worked at Lombey State and then
she always worked, and eventually that we started, my parents
started a business, and she worked out of my home.
(22:26):
When I had kids, and uh uh, you know, we
we had I mean and and I actually truly understand.
You know, one of the things that led to the
downfall of my marriage was that, you know, I was
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off being me and she was at home with the children.
But it was a long, long discussion, a lot of
discussions about even though she was incredibly talented, really really
bright and able to work, she felt like the cost
benefit analysis of if I didn't work and we had
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three if she worked and she had three kids, you're
paying And we had a wonderful nanny when we were
in Connecticut, right, so she could have a life and
go do things. But she wanted to raise our kids.
And yes, here's the thing, if we're actually having the
discussion about staying at home, I believe that Harrison Butker
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is right. From this standpoint. It's an incredible thing that
a woman can do that a guy can do. It
is if you can afford it, and you can do
it and you understand the pitfalls of it, that you're
not going to be financially rewarded. That the reward is
in what the relationship you have with your kids, the
ability to guide your kids through life, and it hasn't
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been easy, then by all means, do it and understand
that you know a lot of times you're not going
to get maybe the respect from the world that you
deserve for what you're doing. The only thing of caveat
I wish people would that I do wish people would
admit is for some reason, when women go to work,
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do we do diminish what it's like for a guy
to go to work? Like when my girls were little,
I took care of them in the morning so she
could go to she went to nurse, she went she
was going to nursing school. And I loved. I loved
that time. Loved love, love, love, love love. I get
up and I had two little baby girls and I
took them everywhere with me and we played and I
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watched sports and played game like it was magical. Did
I want to do that every day at night and
it's witching hour and trying to get them in the bed.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But I would also point out that for the guy,
when you leave home to go to work, your heart
aches to be back in that place. Like dude, The
reason I left ESPN was I couldn't figure out if
I wanted to do the cbsd or did want to
do the CBS deal. But I on a day off
when I was trying to figure out what I want
to do. I went up to my son's playroom and
then I was going to get a cup of coffee
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and gonna leave him there in the playroom and kiss
him on the forehead. And he said, Daddy, go work.
And it was like, Dude, every time I kiss you
on the forehead, do you think I'm going to work?
And I just felt like, man, I got to figure
out a lifestyle where I'm going to see my kids
more so. Anyway, these are adult problems. I agree with you.
Who else annoying you?
Speaker 8 (25:28):
No, I think that we covered multiple things that annoy us.
So the fringes on each side are annoying. Charles Curtis,
the author of this piece, is annoying. I think that
just about does it. We can move along.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I would say, fringes on each side being complete and
total hypocrites.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Why are we doing this? Why? Because we can?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Our guy Stephen A. Smith said this about inside the NBA.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
To see the phenomenal work that they've done over the years,
how they've entertained the NBA world. All I'm going to
say is this, I don't know everything in life, but
I know television, and I know that. I don't give
a damn what network you are. If you have an
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opportunity to have Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill, and Kenny Smith together,
you do not break that up. I don't give a
shit what anybody says.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You keep that together.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
You don't mess with it at all. Ever, they gonna
have Sunday Night basketball. Let them be your Sunday Night basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I kind of agree with him, be honest, like, this
is not that hard, right, This is really really not
that hard, you know, And it's the old it's and
we do the old. Oh you know. Uh, Ernie would
never leave. Come on, man, what are we doing here? Right?
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What are we actually doing here? Of course you could leave.
I disagree oftentimes with Steven A. Smith. This is not
one of those times. Why can we play it for you?
Because we can? All right, that's it for In the bonus,
check out the radio show every day three to five
(27:29):
Eastern time, twelve to two Pacific on Fox Sport trade
of the iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlie
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show here in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie What.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Up Doug Gottlieb Show. So last night in the playoffs,
(00:32):
uh luka, Doncik played great in the fourth quarter, Kyrie
being kind of led uh the Mavericks in the first half,
and the MAVs taking one game to unlead over the
Minnesota Timberwolves. And it's weird, right, It's weird that we're
gonna sit here. Let's just say that Luca gets to
the finals. Let's say, and I granted they still have
(00:53):
to win three more games, can be really hard. Timberwolves
have more quote unquote talent, have a really good team,
and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
But if I said that Timboles had more talent, I
don't think any of you would disagree, would you know?
So when I look at all of these things, I'm
(01:15):
sitting here going I wonder if they make the NBA finals,
if anybody will make the Lebron comparison, will they I
like Derek Lively. I think he's gonna be awesome, and
he's played well for them in the NBA playoffs, But
is he currently awesome. Is he a top fifteen center
in the NBA? No, doesn't even start for the team.
(01:39):
I love Kyrie Irving. I believe Kyrie Irving's a Hall
of Fame caliber player. But is he playing at a
peak level?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He was amazing last night, But Kyrie, the consistency is
not there as he gets a little bit longer than
the tooth. And that's not his role on this team.
But you should do yourself a favor. Compare the rocks
of the Mavericks with well, the roster of Lebron's first
Calves team, which we give so much credit, rightfully so
for reaching the NBA finals. That's the kind of work
(02:11):
that Luca has done and will do. And it's just
interesting to me on how I haven't heard anybody say, like,
can you imagine if he gets to the finals with
that roster in the West, because we've had the weird
rosters get to the finals in the East. Heck, you know,
even the conference finals. That's what happened with the Hawks
(02:33):
is they got to the conference finals a couple years
ago and they've been forever chasing that shadow since. But
in terms of the NBA Finals, that would be remarkable
if you consider where the rest of his franchise is,
how hard it's been, and what they're going to have
to accomplish it to or to get there. I don't
give somebody the crown of best player in the world lightly,
(02:55):
but if I had to, if I had a gun
point in my head and somebody said, who's the best
player in the world, I would say, Luka Duncheon.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Let's Get what the Fox Says.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And now what does the fuck say?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Every day of this time of The Doug Gottlieb Show,
we played for you a portion of a previous show
on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. Here is Brady
Quinn LeVar Arrington. They had this exchange about the NFL
potentially having an eighteen game schedule and what it means
for the players.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I hate the fact that since Roger Goodell has taken over,
and I'm sure people are gonna take shots at me
for saying, well, it's a boosts you know, they should
be concerned about raising revenue, you know, creating putting more
money and lining the pockets of the owners. You are
losing your product, like you're losing a piece of this.
In your desire to try to make as much money
(03:51):
as humanly possible for these owners, You're gonna lose the
quality of the game, the quality of the product in
many different ways. And so I get concerned about that,
and I just hope Lloyd Howell Junior now has taken over,
as was recently elected as the executive director for the NFLPA,
get lifetime health care like that would be the biggest
(04:15):
stamp ever for an executive director in my opinion, for
the NFLPA, if they were to be able to get
lifetime health care, do it pro actively. That's that's part
of it. Yeah, that's part of it. Because obviously the
players who are you know, currently you know, playing in
the NFL, they'll receive it. Guys five years out, they
can receive it. But they that comes in saying that
(04:37):
it's going to be for the older generations, the older players.
Typically most collective bardiing agreements have put in some you know,
protective measures for older players past generations. And so I'm
not just saying this for myself. I'm standing for guys
who are way older than I am that need it
right now badly.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I just I'm sorry, Brady, but I don't care.
Nobody cares, including the current players. If they cared, then
you know what they wouldn't do. They wouldn't have played
the sixteenth or seventeenth game. We're good, they just would not, Okay,
(05:19):
if they cared, they wouldn't play those games. Instead, they
signed a collective Barton agreement which is ten years in length.
Ten years in length, and this is the deal, and
it opens up for the eighteenth game, and the reason
the players want it is and this is like, look, Brady,
(05:39):
I get it. You're trying to position yourself as being
on the player's side as a former player, But can
we stop with the lining the owners pockets. Yes, the
owners run a business and they will benefit from this,
but there's a collective Bardon agreement and the players benefit
from it. If the players don't want to play, then
(06:01):
they all extra games. Then they should say, hey, we're
good with the money we're making. We don't want to
make more money. This is a way to add make
added revenues. That's what it is. And the whole the
product sucks and Jason Stewart has brought that up in
the past. One I disagree with. Two. This brings in
a second bye week. They they don't practice as much,
(06:23):
they don't hit as much. They have made it as
easy as possible in an incredibly violent game to perform
and perform well through the lifetime of the season and
stay and play. And we're seeing players play into the thirties,
quarterbacks play in their forties. So give it a fucking rest. Okay,
it's such a it's it's just alarming the amount of
(06:45):
bullshit when you get from like the owners rely in
their pockets some of the players. If they gave a
shit about about lifetime healthcare insurance, then you know what
they would do. They would direct part of the revenue
to go to lifetime healthcare insurance. They don't do you
know why, because they don't give a shit either side
(07:10):
the players. They do this all the time. And anyone
who's ever done a business deal knows this is the
worst possible thing you can do. You signed and agreed
to a deal, and then you bitch about the deal
for the lifetime of deal. Like man, what like what
you signed the deal? There was no lockout, There was
no strike there was. It was a really kind of
(07:32):
seamless negotiation. And now we're going to complain about it. Nah,
I don't get it. Paul Pierce said this about the
Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I like Dallas and six for the simple fact the
championship DNA is pretty much oozing all over their locker room.
When you talk about Kyrie, Jason Kidd, and let's not
forget the championship moments that Luca had in Europe, playing
in hostile environments. People you know don't know about that,
(08:02):
or that goes underestimating. I'm a little concerned about Minnesota.
You know a man didn't play well. Let that be
Jason Tatum goes nineteen and ten. We'll be all over
him the next day. Look at what we've done. Some
have already given the face to the league. Some say
when they get to the finals and winning champions he's
the face of Jordan. So if you're getting all these comparisons,
(08:24):
you got to show up.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Now.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I understand that you haven't been in this moment, but
Luke and Kyrie have. And when I hear things like
you're tired, that struck me because now everybody's tired at
this point, and for the first time I see a
chink in his armor because I didn't see this before.
When they went down three two, what do you do?
We'll be back in seven. Throughout the playoffs, he's constantly
(08:49):
giving his teammates confidence when they're down and out or
when they're up. I never saw him say anything like this,
you know, I'm tired, So for the first time, I'm like, oh, oh,
that's not what I want to hear from a young guy.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Look, I watched the Dallas Mavericks and I cannot tell
you how much I respect and appreciate Luca. And the
reason is, Kyrie's not easy. Kyrie doesn't profess to be easy.
It didn't always work, and it may not always work
even in the series together. But the fact is that
(09:29):
Luca seems to totally get how to work with people.
To be that type of superstar at this age without
having won a title, and to command and get the
respect of Kyrie, Irving and the rest of Obviously, the
roster is a great thing. So I think it's pretty
amazing what the Mavericks are doing. And granted we're only
one game into the Western Conference Finals. Here's Dan Patrick
(09:52):
talking with Charles Barkley.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Morel sucks, plain and simple. You know, I just feel
so bad for the people I work with.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
You know, these people have families, and I just really
feel bad for them right now. You know, these people
I work with, they screwed this thing up clearly, and
we don't have zero idea what's going to happen. I
don't feel good. I'm not going to lie. Especially when
they came out yesterday and said we bought college football,
I was like, well, damn, they could have used that
(10:20):
money to buy the NBA. We've never had college football,
that never been involved with college football, and I'm like,
wait a minute, shouldn't we be spending every dime we
got to keep the NBA? So morale sucks. To be
honest with you, Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was wondering about this. I don't know if you
guys have talked about this, but you and Shaq and
Kenny and Ernie, how about just form a production company
and continue to shoot, continue to do the inside the NBA,
hire the personnel, keep the personnel there, continue to do
it in Atlanta, and then you're able to sell that
to NBC or Amazon and say here, you already got
(10:57):
the best studio show ready to go, keep everybody in place.
But you guys own your own production company.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Well, I've talked to the guys about everybody sign up
with my production company because I have my own production
company and I want to I would love to do
that if we lose it. But I have definitely had Actually,
somebody suggested that to me, to be honest with you
on the internet. So why don't Yalas Barker sign these
three guys, four guys total, this his production company and
(11:26):
sell it. I'm like, that's a great idea. Yeah, But
like I say, you know, we're just sitting back waiting
on these people to figure out what they're gonna do.
You know, you know, my two favorite wines are Inglenook
and Opus, and these clowns I work for they've turned
us into Ripple and Boone Farm and Thunderberg. Like we
got the best studio show we want, we just and
(11:48):
it's so funny. We just want the best studio show.
But these foods turn us from Inglenook and Opah's into
damn Boone Farm and Ripple. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I love. I mean, Charles is literally the only guy
who get with that, the only guy that got with
the only one. It does suck, but it is a business.
And the ask when you have you know, when you
work for Warner Brothers and when you work for Time Warner,
(12:19):
and you know they're going through their own financial difficulties.
And then somebody says, hey, are you going to pony
up two x of what we have now against and like,
you really can't compete with Amazon money, You just can't.
They have They just printed every time you order something
from Prime you are, so you can't compete with that.
NBC along with Comcast, the BID's just too much, and
(12:42):
ESPN their offer was obscene as well. Sometimes you just
get out bid for something. It does suck. There's just
no way around it. And I love Charles leading with
his heart and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Hey Doug, yes, what percentage of our listeners do you
think understands that wine joke?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Everybody?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
I have never heard of any of those brands?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You ever heard of Opus?
Speaker 8 (13:14):
Never?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love Charles.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I caught the Bonez Farm.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I caught the Boons Farm because everybody knows Boons Farm
is right.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
That's just like that's not even wine. That's like is
it cheap wine?
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Is that what it is, for it looks like you.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Never had boons Farm wine when you're a kid, when
you're like in high school.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Never.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's definitely under h j.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Opus is like between three fifty and four fifty a bottle.
It's expensive.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
That's what I was wondering. So it's a kind of
a rich guy joke or analogy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's we have, yes, it's I mean, you could have
made the You could have made the analogy of cars,
you know whatever. You could make the analogy of sneakers.
You can make the analogy you want. But basically, we
are the best, and we're being traded like we're high
school kids drinking the wine high school kids drink when
they're trying to, you know, sneak it or something that
(14:03):
the cheapest of cheap makes sense.
Speaker 8 (14:07):
No, no, I get it. I I just I wonder
how many heads that went over. That sounds like a
rich guy talking to a rich guy and then laughing
over privileged stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I actually thought it was a perfect joke because if
you haven't drank Opus, you've probably drank Boonz Farm, and
then you may not know what Opus is, but you
definitely know what boons Farm is. That's what the Fox
said Say.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
I don't know. I didn't know who this guy was
before this morning. But Charles Curtis writes for USA Today.
He does a column or something for the win. I
don't know. I'll just read the headline. The chief silence
on Harrison Butker's misogynistic and homophobic comments is beyond acceptable, Sorry,
(15:25):
beyond unacceptable. That's the key. So Charles Curtis writes an
entire column laying out why the chiefs need to respond.
Not only do they need to respond, but they need
to condemn in words what Butker said about women. This
is what living in an echo chamber of ideas reads like.
(15:49):
I encourage our listeners to read the column, and I
challenge you to not get pissed off by the Unamerican
rhetoric that he is stating. One of my Twitter followers said,
up perfectly, It's like it's almost like this this is
an AI column for left wing propaganda. This can't be
(16:09):
an actual person. It's just an AI column calling for
someone to be silenced. Charles Curtis, you're annoyed.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I mean, I just we take things to mean things
that they don't. Look. Look, here's the reality to it. Okay,
Well let's have a real discussion about it. That's what
this podcast is for. Do I think there's some misogynistic
(16:41):
comments in his commentary? Of course? Do I think you
can make a link towards homophobia, Maybe seems like a
bit of a stretch. Okay, but here's the reality. And
this is as somebody who has been a radical centrist
but fairly left leaning my entire life, my entire life. Okay,
(17:04):
I can only tell you this to be a fact,
which is like, look, we can make people say what
you want them to say, but it's only good to
create more negative feelings towards that side. The point is,
for example, homosexuality in my world, I couldn't possibly care
(17:30):
any less what your sexual orientation is, could not has
zero effect on me none. I have friends that are gay,
I have friends that are straight. Most of my friends
are straight, but I have gay friends. Okay, one of
my dear friends is she's she's lesbian, she has a child,
she's been married to same woman for like a decade.
(17:52):
She's but again, she's not awesome because she's lesbian. I'm
not bragging like I just has zero effect on me.
But I also I'm a realist to understand that a
lot of people, especially those who are religious, Hey, disagree
with that lifestyle. Hey, some people think it's a choice. Again,
I don't. The point is that you're actually allowed to
(18:13):
say and think these things, which you're not allowed to
do is impinge on their civil rights. That's what you're
not allowed to do. You're not allowed to hire or
not hire somebody or allow them into your restaurant. Are
not allowed based upon your their sexual orientation, your perception
of their sexual oriitation. You're not. And this idea the
crazy part about the super far left, and it's a minority,
(18:34):
a small minority, But the crazy part is it's supposed
to be this portion of our culture that is ultra accepting,
and the problem is that they're ultra accepting of everybody
except for someone who doesn't believe in what they believe in.
That's am I am, I fairly accurate or a hulf
(18:55):
percent acurate their Jason.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
No, I think that's the paradigm shift, and that's what
Bill Maher talks about.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Right now. Look now, look now, Look the part that
people that escapes is escapes is there's a lot of
people who are in the far right who want to
act like there anti homosexual and many some of them
are fact are gay again twhich I don't care, but
it's clearly a cover and we've seen it be uncovered.
(19:21):
So there's a bunch of hypocrites on both sides. Okay,
the far right and the far left are are can
be incredibly hypocritical. Most of us are in the middle
and Harrison Butker's comments came to me as he so
badly wanted what he's gotten, which is attention for this machismo,
(19:42):
alpha male whatever. Where the truth is like, if you're
really comfortable in yourself as a man and yourself as
a leader of your family, you don't have to say shit,
you don't have to like that doesn't have to be
a point. You don't have to like convince people that
you're more of a man. That's my belief. I don't
so I think the biggest issues with is with the
(20:05):
hypocrisy of both fringes, both fringes of it, you know again,
and like the super far right is many of very
religious and very anti whatever. Like okay, but you believe
in Jesus, right, Yes, was Jesus not benevolent? Was Jesus
not somebody who let every took in the lepers, you know,
(20:26):
took in those who others would not take in shore
So there's a hypocrisy on both sides, and it's freaking annoying, annoying.
And this particular gentleman is annoying because he's he's doing
the very easy thing, which is labeling Harrison Butker to
somehow make a point and call him names, which is stupid.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Well, he says that the chief's silence on this is unacceptable.
Little does he know that the error to the chiefs.
The daughter of one of the owners or the wife
of one of the owners went on Fox News last
week and supported Bucker. Their best player yesterday supported him.
Their head coach supported him. I don't know why he
(21:08):
didn't mention this. Each of these entities. Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes said, I don't agree with everything he thinks,
but that doesn't mean I'm going to not include him
in our team, and that, to me is the very
crux of this. You don't have to agree with what
he says, but he has the right to think it.
(21:29):
I personally, Doug, the only experience I could draw from
is my own experience. My mother stayed at home and
raised me and my sister, and I know for a
fact that I'm better off because of that. And I
felt bad for my friends that were latchkey kids that
had to go home with no parents and cook microwave dinners.
I know I'm better off for it. That's my own experience.
(21:52):
Is there something wrong with knowing that I'm a better
person because my mom chose to stay home and raise me.
I don't get that part. I don't know how that's
homophobic or misogynists or sexist. I'm just I'm speaking of
my experience.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Hey listen, so I'll speak to my my My mom was.
My mom worked and but her first my first five
years in California, she worked at Lombey State and then
she always worked, and eventually that we started, my parents
started a business, and she worked out of my home.
(22:26):
When I had kids, and uh uh, you know, we
we had I mean and and I actually truly understand.
You know, one of the things that led to the
downfall of my marriage was that, you know, I was
(22:47):
off being me and she was at home with the children.
But it was a long, long discussion, a lot of
discussions about even though she was incredibly talented, really really
bright and able to work, she felt like the cost
benefit analysis of if I didn't work and we had
(23:08):
three if she worked and she had three kids, you're
paying And we had a wonderful nanny when we were
in Connecticut, right, so she could have a life and
go do things. But she wanted to raise our kids.
And yes, here's the thing, if we're actually having the
discussion about staying at home, I believe that Harrison Butker
(23:31):
is right. From this standpoint. It's an incredible thing that
a woman can do that a guy can do. It
is if you can afford it, and you can do
it and you understand the pitfalls of it, that you're
not going to be financially rewarded. That the reward is
in what the relationship you have with your kids, the
ability to guide your kids through life, and it hasn't
(23:52):
been easy, then by all means, do it and understand
that you know a lot of times you're not going
to get maybe the respect from the world that you
deserve for what you're doing. The only thing of caveat
I wish people would that I do wish people would
admit is for some reason, when women go to work,
(24:16):
do we do diminish what it's like for a guy
to go to work? Like when my girls were little,
I took care of them in the morning so she
could go to she went to nurse, she went she
was going to nursing school. And I loved. I loved
that time. Loved love, love, love, love love. I get
up and I had two little baby girls and I
took them everywhere with me and we played and I
(24:39):
watched sports and played game like it was magical. Did
I want to do that every day at night and
it's witching hour and trying to get them in the bed.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But I would also point out that for the guy,
when you leave home to go to work, your heart
aches to be back in that place. Like dude, The
reason I left ESPN was I couldn't figure out if
I wanted to do the cbsd or did want to
do the CBS deal. But I on a day off
when I was trying to figure out what I want
to do. I went up to my son's playroom and
then I was going to get a cup of coffee
(25:11):
and gonna leave him there in the playroom and kiss
him on the forehead. And he said, Daddy, go work.
And it was like, Dude, every time I kiss you
on the forehead, do you think I'm going to work?
And I just felt like, man, I got to figure
out a lifestyle where I'm going to see my kids
more so. Anyway, these are adult problems. I agree with you.
Who else annoying you?
Speaker 8 (25:28):
No, I think that we covered multiple things that annoy us.
So the fringes on each side are annoying. Charles Curtis,
the author of this piece, is annoying. I think that
just about does it. We can move along.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I would say, fringes on each side being complete and
total hypocrites.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Why are we doing this? Why? Because we can?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Our guy Stephen A. Smith said this about inside the NBA.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
To see the phenomenal work that they've done over the years,
how they've entertained the NBA world. All I'm going to
say is this, I don't know everything in life, but
I know television, and I know that. I don't give
a damn what network you are. If you have an
(26:22):
opportunity to have Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill, and Kenny Smith together,
you do not break that up. I don't give a
shit what anybody says.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You keep that together.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
You don't mess with it at all. Ever, they gonna
have Sunday Night basketball. Let them be your Sunday Night basketball.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I kind of agree with him, be honest, like, this
is not that hard, right, This is really really not
that hard, you know, And it's the old it's and
we do the old. Oh you know. Uh, Ernie would
never leave. Come on, man, what are we doing here? Right?
(27:08):
What are we actually doing here? Of course you could leave.
I disagree oftentimes with Steven A. Smith. This is not
one of those times. Why can we play it for you?
Because we can? All right, that's it for In the bonus,
check out the radio show every day three to five
(27:29):
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