July 17, 2024 • 21 mins
Doug riffs on the All-Star game and why the choice of uniforms was a bad decision. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take about Brandon Aiyuk. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Aja Wilson makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show Years
in the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I gotta leave show in the Bonus. O Sports Radio.
I Heart Radio app. Welcome in hold On. So last
night was the Baseball All Star Game. And there's there's
(00:37):
this thing about the Baseball All Star Game that I
I don't know. I just I can't stand and I
do understand it, but I still can't stand it. And
I think, Jason, you know what it is now, Dan
buyers are our resident like uniform stop uniform analysts, but
we're all reasonable human beings. I I just I don't understand.
(00:58):
I do understand, but don't understand. Like I understand why
they have the alternate uniforms of the special All Star
uniforms to sell them, to make money on them. But
whatever money you make, you take away in terms of
the visual. You know, it's like they have these futuristic
(01:19):
softball slash video game type uniforms. And don't get me wrong,
like I thought the pink ones were pretty you know,
the blue with the pink is pretty solid. Like that's
kind of cool. But major League Baseball's All Star Game,
Major League Baseball in general is all about kind of
the yester year and the nostalgia. And the great part
(01:42):
about it to me is when you have all of these,
you know, you have all these historic uniforms and people
wearing their uniform like, well, I don't understand why we
have to screw up. I guess I do. It's to
make money. But whatever amount of money you're making, you're
losing in watchability, in residence, in nostalgia. And again I
(02:05):
don't know the value of nostalgia, but whatever that value
is is completely going out the window with all of
these extra uniforms. That is that fair, Jay? Or do
you like them? Do you dig them?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No? No, no, I'm I'm very much a commudgion in
this one. I think they're disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well again, I'm not one to say they're disgusting, They're
just you're way over to the side. What I think
is they just hurt the watchability because so much of
what makes baseball great is the nostalgia. And you know,
seeing the Yankees pinstripes and the Yankees stand next to
a Red Sox standing next to a you know, pick
(02:43):
another American League team, right, I just think that works
And this looks like some futuristic video game baseball game
instead of the Major League Baseball All Star Game, which
reek reek of nostalgia. And they do it to make money,
and they do it to please Nike, who makes the uniforms.
Who you're selling additional uniforms, you're creating new avenues. I
(03:05):
get all that, but again, what is lost there. What's
lost is like it doesn't feel like a Major League
Baseball game. It feels like some sort of celebrity game.
It doesn't feel as big as it would feel. I
believe if you had the traditional uniforms that where you
want were Homer Road, and I feel that way for
the NBA. I feel that way for the only difference
(03:27):
to the NBA is you can see the players more
so if they have different uniforms. But even in the NBA, like,
I don't get why you don't just have the regular uniforms.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think that there's also like this, you know, I
think baseball is guilty of trying to copy the more
popular leagues. They just don't. The players just aren't recognizable
enough to be fucking with the uniforms.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, that's a great point, right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I need to be associated with their team so that
people could actually identify who the hell they are.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I mean, you had how many new players? So even
more so the MVP.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I would challenge anybody to tell me before yesterday's game
if they knew who Duran was?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right, and I still don't know what team he plays
for why he wasn't wearing their hat weather jersey?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You and I agree. We don't agree on a lot,
we agree on this one wholeheardly.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Let's get to the Fox Says?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And now.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What does say every day? This time the Doug Gottlieb
Show In the Bonus Podcast, who played for a portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One,
we call it what do the Fox Say? This is
Brady Quinn talking about the Niners and Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
As you get closer and closer to training camp, if
there is a team that's in need of upgrading their
wide receiver core, like here it is, they've given the
team every last ditch effort of trying to get an
extension done, or come to an agreement and it hasn't
worked out. So at this point, if you are the
forty nine ers, it's you could probably get the most
(05:10):
for him at this moment, right now, unless there's an
injury to a star receiver and a team really needs
someone to come in, because he still has the potential
of someone using the franchise tag on him next year.
So you're not just getting if you traded for him now,
you're not just getting from this year. Maybe you want to,
you know, get him there see how things go. If
things go well and he doesn't want to come to
(05:33):
an agreement, you saw the franchise tag on him, it
buys you more time to come to that long term agreement,
and if not, you still have his services for another year.
So right now is the time to do it if
you're gonna get something done. Otherwise you've got a disgruntled
player where depending on how things go this season, it
could kind of mess with the chemistry in the locker room.
At least that's that's how I see it now.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't see it that way either, Like he doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag. If you want
to play the franchise tag, then he playing the French tag. Brady,
you know, it's pretty kind of obvious there. He doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag and he doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag. That doesn't change
just because, you know, just because he changes teams. If
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you trade for him, you have to give a new contract,
and he's not reasonable about what he wants his new
contract to be. That that's why, that's why the Niners
feel like they can they can sit there and go, hey,
we tried to trade you and nobody wanted you. Because
it's not that no one wanted him. Nobody wanted him
at whatever the Niners wanted him return and whatever the
(06:37):
final price of his contract would be. And I think
all of that stuff is is all part of the package.
And so the Niners are like, look, there's not the
value out there for you. We don't want to do it.
Simply don't want to do it. And if they don't
want to do it, they're under no pressure to trade
him because just like Brady suggested, it is true. They
(07:01):
don't have to do anything now, a single thing, and
he's under contract for the next couple of years. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about the MB All Star uniforms.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I thought the uniforms were softball ish and they tried
too hard.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think, just make it an All Star game.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You wear your uniforms if you want to wear those things,
and I call them things, if you want to go, hey,
we're going to Texas theme for the home run Derby, fine,
not for the All Star Games. Like I felt bad
for some of those guys that just didn't look good
in those colors. But it was definitely a.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Softball like feel.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But they've had problems with the uniforms, not only how
they look, but the quality of them. Now there is
a tweet that's out there now that the Commissioner of
Baseball says there will be conversations about returning to the
individual jerseys for next year's All Star Game. He says
that he is aware of these sentiment. That's according to
(08:01):
the Commissioner Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred. Once you say
something like that, get ready for a change in uniforms.
It's like when Roger Goodell goes, you know what, we're
listening for the eighteen games, and you know we're taking
that under consider. Rachel Okay, Commission, there's going to be
an eighteen game schedule. The question is when, not if,
(08:24):
and I do think we'll go back to the uniforms
of the individuals.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, we talked about that a lot to open the show.
So it's again, Jason, I thought you identified the biggest
issue with it. It's that I don't know anybody is
and my association should be with their team. That makes
me want to go to the ballpark, and I can't
do it when I don't know who they are and
I don't know what team they play for. Just the
(08:52):
reality of it. This is Rachel Nichols talking about the
criticism of Bronnie James.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Brownie's game been fair or unfair.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Totally unfair. I think that people are looking at him
as if he is a top ten pick. He is
not a top ten pick. He's a number fifty five pick.
The expectations for a number fifty five pick should be
that you are largely headed to the G League and
may get some games up in the NBA. Last year's
number fifty five pick played four total minutes in the NBA.
(09:21):
He didn't average four minutes a game in the NBA,
four total minutes, and those game in one game. So
to evaluate Bronni next to top ten picks versus what
other guys at number fifty five has done is totally unfair,
and obviously it's going to happen. We're all watching him
more because of who he is and the fact that
he's playing on the Lakers. Don't forget that too, in
(09:42):
addition to being Lebron's son. But he is not playing
at a level that's so much below where other players
who have been in his position have played in the past.
So to sit there and criticize him for summer league
numbers totally unfair.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
She's wrong, She's wrong. Again. It's not just it's not
the summer league numbers. It's not what he where he
will play this year. The number fifty five pick last
year was Isaiah Wong. Isaiah Wong played in the final four,
average sixteen a game at at the University of Miami.
(10:17):
Like compare that to playing on one of the worst
teams and not starting at USC and you know, and
having your NBA coach say you earned it with your
hard work. Like again, it's not just the somber numbers,
it's the Lakers drafting him when and telling and talking
about him like other people. Other teams wanted him and
(10:38):
passed on him. And yeah, there's there. There are people
making fun of him and there are people being critical
of him. I think those two things are separate and
distinctive themselves. You can be you can have critical analysis
and be totally fair. It's when you make fun of
him that you cross over anast of the line. You
just do. And obviously Rachel's sense to it, she's relaying
(11:03):
what she has been told, probably by Lebron's people, in
terms of what's fair and what's not. I would tell
you that any critique of his game is you know,
so far. I mean a lot of people go overboard.
I think the critique here has been more than more
than fair. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A couple of things about that, Rachel Nichols saying, it
leads into the first thing that I'm annoyed by today. Yeah,
we would, we would act like and evaluate him like
a fifty fifth pick overall, if everybody treated it like
it was a fifty fifth pick over all from the beginning.
But Rich Paul and JJ Reddick no, but.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That let's let's just say Lebron James is the problem here. Yes,
Lebron James told told people, told the world on Twitter
that his son was better or as good as half
the dudes in the league. That's what he said. So again,
like we're we're supposed to this is one of those
uh who who told you Lebron Bronnie James was any good?
(12:29):
You did Lebron exactly the fuck you did.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You can't build the expectations and then say the evaluations
are too unfair based on the expectations you built. And
then that leads me to my first thing. So, uh,
this happened this week JJ Reddick, new Lakers head coach.
He went on Serious XM and he made this comp
about Bronnie.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
We used the example yesterday we were at the Canada
USA basketball exhibition game and I turned to one of
our assistant coaches during the game and I said, I
think I think lou Dort just single handedly broke up
the eighth possession of the game. Like his impact you
can't get into your offense. Sometimes the shot clock winds
down because of his ball pressure. He literally blows up
(13:13):
entire plays because of that pressure. And I really believe
this Ronnie eventually will be that guy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No he won't. No he won't. No he won't. No,
he won't. If that's again, here's the here's the gaping
holes in JJ's game. Here's the difference to me and JJ. Okay,
neither of us did coach before or whatever, and so
we're but I had i'd coached a ton in au. Okay,
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JJ hasn't really evaluated high school and college kids. He
just hasn't. And again, this is where I'm super respectful
of even my own staff, where I don't a lot
of times right now, high school kids, I temper some
of my enthusiasm and with evaluation because I haven't done
the what a high school kid looks like and what
(14:04):
he'll look like playing for me in college. I've evaluated
playing in college kids, and I'm very confident in that.
So the two places that he because when they say
he's never called a time out, like if you watch
JJ's teams play, Hey, you watch JJ's teams play, they
run way too many sets, and that's his whole thing.
I want to run run sets much. Well, that's the
guy who you haven't coached before, so you don't know.
(14:25):
There's a balance of when you you know, when you
pull the reins back and when you kind of let
him go. And you're going to learn a lot, you know,
in the first couple of weeks, and you have to process.
And I think he'll be fine eventually, but he's doing
some evaluation that he has no idea what he's doing.
He clearly never saw Loudrt play in college. He definitely
never saw Loudrt coming up. To compare those two is
(14:50):
fucking embarrassing. Again. Lou Dort limited offensively in the NBA
as a shooter, averaged sixteen a game in the PAC
twelve as they college player for one year. Lou Dort's
a legit six ' four and list it out at
two fifteen, and he's built like a brick shit house.
Brianni James is six one and a half and he's
(15:11):
somewhere in the two h five variety. They're completely different players.
Stop it with completely different mentalities as well. Just stop it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, And I mean I knew that you would you
would get into the weeds with the evaluation. I know
nothing about basketball. I don't know if that's a good
comprom not. You obviously don't think it is. But my
problem is, stop comparing this kid to people. Stop. I mean,
everybody has eyes like he doesn't pass the eye test
with somebody like me. I've watched his summer games and
(15:41):
I don't think he belongs in the NBA. So stop
comparing him to anybody. Just let him. Let just just
let this thing play out and do that side show
in the first week of the season where he gets
to play with this dad. We can get all get
some good pictures, get some good images for the GRAM,
and then send them back to g and maybe he'll
never be an NBA player after that. But anyways, all
star uniforms the one issue I have as well. We've
(16:03):
talked a lot about this, but baseball uniforms in general,
Like baseball is the one sport I follow the closest.
It's the one sport I played, I have a passion for,
and I love it dearly. If I tune into a
game or I'm watching highlights on Sports Center and I
can't identify the team on the field, that's a problem.
(16:27):
I don't know who you're catering to with all these
different uniforms and city connect and all this shit. But
it's a problem if somebody like me can't identify a
team at first glance. So just baseball uniforms in general,
they need to take a step back. They need to
dial it back. And maybe you can't put that back
in the toothpaste because you're making money off of it.
But the All Star uniforms are just the most recent
(16:50):
example of Baseball's issue with uniforms period.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well said, I wish I could disagree with you in
any way. I cannot. It's annoying.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
This is one this has been making the rounds. Cow
heard led with it today. It's uh GM of the Giants,
Joel Shane and his owner in her room. You can't
see the body language with the audio, but this is
how the audio went.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
What's the latest on I just got a text that
Chicago's driving the price up and Philly's out.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I don't know if that's true or.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Not, which I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
If I'll make a couple of calls. I don't even
know if that's gonna then it happen.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
But I have a tough time to sleep and if
Sinquan goes to film, I'll tell you that as I've
told you just being up. I had been around enough players,
but he's the most popular player we have by.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Far, so uh heard had an issue with this shows
a dysfunction if the owner and the GM are not
on the same page. The owner obviously didn't want to
get rid of him, and he certainly doesn't want him
to go to the rival in division. The thing that
sticks out to me is that Joel Shane is just
another hack NFL insider. It just got a text. Looks
(18:06):
like Chicago's driving the price up. He's doing what all
of us are guilty of doing. You should be you
should be smarter than that. Somebody's agent made a call
to a reporter and Joel Shane is quoting that report
to his owner and then say Quan ends up signing
with the Eagles. How embarrassing is that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think there's a lot to it. I I think
that the circle back to it is when when the
owner says I don't want to lose him, that's when
Joel Shane should go like, all right, we're willing to
up the offer. Because basically he went to Philadelphia for
what appears to be a million dollars more like that's
it in the contract. So everyone had about the same numbers,
(18:50):
and you know, the follow up question was missing. Okay,
so how deep are we willing to go to keep him?
You know, if it's Philadelphia, are we willing to go
above and be on what we've currently done? And they
weren't and they lost the money. I also think it's
done for Sakwon Markley to go to Philadelphia when you
could have been a giant for life and that would
have paid off, you know, tenfold in post career stuff.
(19:15):
But this is in fact his choice. What's the most
annoying hm m hmm. What was the first one?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know we had issue with JJ Reddick's comp there?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, JJ redicks annoying. He's he's so, he's so fucking arrogant.
It's always been a little bit much. And now when
he's making if you're going to be that arrogant and
you're making comps, and I understand what he's saying, but
it's not an appropriate comp JJ.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Ridick is annoying.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Let's find out.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Only because we can.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Doug, I don't know, I don't know the context here,
but this is all. This is what I know. This
is what I know. The Las Vegas Aces lost last night.
Asia Wilson is the best player in the w n
B A. I've been told she sees Usher coming up
from the tunnel and she's making a comment I think
(20:22):
about teammates. Listen closely here. Okay, that was awful. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna say what she said. She says,
they ain't done ship all day, but they want to
take a motherfucking picture with Usher. I don't know if
(20:44):
that's her teammates that haven't done ship with all day,
but anyways. It was caught on a live mic during
an n b A w NBA game, So because we can.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I love it. I love it's the whole idea of
like if you lose, you don't get to go take
a picture with Usher, Like if you lose, get your shit,
get to the locker room, will figure it out. I
actually like that. Asia Wilson scored some points to me there.
I hate that, like, you lose, you're gonna go take
pictures of people Like nah, I don't really like that. Why
can we play for you because we can't. All right,
(21:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I gotta leave show in the Bonus. O Sports Radio.
I Heart Radio app. Welcome in hold On. So last
night was the Baseball All Star Game. And there's there's
(00:37):
this thing about the Baseball All Star Game that I
I don't know. I just I can't stand and I
do understand it, but I still can't stand it. And
I think, Jason, you know what it is now, Dan
buyers are our resident like uniform stop uniform analysts, but
we're all reasonable human beings. I I just I don't understand.
(00:58):
I do understand, but don't understand. Like I understand why
they have the alternate uniforms of the special All Star
uniforms to sell them, to make money on them. But
whatever money you make, you take away in terms of
the visual. You know, it's like they have these futuristic
(01:19):
softball slash video game type uniforms. And don't get me wrong,
like I thought the pink ones were pretty you know,
the blue with the pink is pretty solid. Like that's
kind of cool. But major League Baseball's All Star Game,
Major League Baseball in general is all about kind of
the yester year and the nostalgia. And the great part
(01:42):
about it to me is when you have all of these,
you know, you have all these historic uniforms and people
wearing their uniform like, well, I don't understand why we
have to screw up. I guess I do. It's to
make money. But whatever amount of money you're making, you're
losing in watchability, in residence, in nostalgia. And again I
(02:05):
don't know the value of nostalgia, but whatever that value
is is completely going out the window with all of
these extra uniforms. That is that fair, Jay? Or do
you like them? Do you dig them?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No? No, no, I'm I'm very much a commudgion in
this one. I think they're disgusting.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well again, I'm not one to say they're disgusting, They're
just you're way over to the side. What I think
is they just hurt the watchability because so much of
what makes baseball great is the nostalgia. And you know,
seeing the Yankees pinstripes and the Yankees stand next to
a Red Sox standing next to a you know, pick
(02:43):
another American League team, right, I just think that works
And this looks like some futuristic video game baseball game
instead of the Major League Baseball All Star Game, which
reek reek of nostalgia. And they do it to make money,
and they do it to please Nike, who makes the uniforms.
Who you're selling additional uniforms, you're creating new avenues. I
(03:05):
get all that, but again, what is lost there. What's
lost is like it doesn't feel like a Major League
Baseball game. It feels like some sort of celebrity game.
It doesn't feel as big as it would feel. I
believe if you had the traditional uniforms that where you
want were Homer Road, and I feel that way for
the NBA. I feel that way for the only difference
(03:27):
to the NBA is you can see the players more
so if they have different uniforms. But even in the NBA, like,
I don't get why you don't just have the regular uniforms.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think that there's also like this, you know, I
think baseball is guilty of trying to copy the more
popular leagues. They just don't. The players just aren't recognizable
enough to be fucking with the uniforms.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, that's a great point, right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I need to be associated with their team so that
people could actually identify who the hell they are.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I mean, you had how many new players? So even
more so the MVP.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I would challenge anybody to tell me before yesterday's game
if they knew who Duran was?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right, and I still don't know what team he plays
for why he wasn't wearing their hat weather jersey?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You and I agree. We don't agree on a lot,
we agree on this one wholeheardly.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Let's get to the Fox Says?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And now.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What does say every day? This time the Doug Gottlieb
Show In the Bonus Podcast, who played for a portion
of a previous show on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One,
we call it what do the Fox Say? This is
Brady Quinn talking about the Niners and Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
As you get closer and closer to training camp, if
there is a team that's in need of upgrading their
wide receiver core, like here it is, they've given the
team every last ditch effort of trying to get an
extension done, or come to an agreement and it hasn't
worked out. So at this point, if you are the
forty nine ers, it's you could probably get the most
(05:10):
for him at this moment, right now, unless there's an
injury to a star receiver and a team really needs
someone to come in, because he still has the potential
of someone using the franchise tag on him next year.
So you're not just getting if you traded for him now,
you're not just getting from this year. Maybe you want to,
you know, get him there see how things go. If
things go well and he doesn't want to come to
(05:33):
an agreement, you saw the franchise tag on him, it
buys you more time to come to that long term agreement,
and if not, you still have his services for another year.
So right now is the time to do it if
you're gonna get something done. Otherwise you've got a disgruntled
player where depending on how things go this season, it
could kind of mess with the chemistry in the locker room.
At least that's that's how I see it now.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't see it that way either, Like he doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag. If you want
to play the franchise tag, then he playing the French tag. Brady,
you know, it's pretty kind of obvious there. He doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag and he doesn't
want to play in the franchise tag. That doesn't change
just because, you know, just because he changes teams. If
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you trade for him, you have to give a new contract,
and he's not reasonable about what he wants his new
contract to be. That that's why, that's why the Niners
feel like they can they can sit there and go, hey,
we tried to trade you and nobody wanted you. Because
it's not that no one wanted him. Nobody wanted him
at whatever the Niners wanted him return and whatever the
(06:37):
final price of his contract would be. And I think
all of that stuff is is all part of the package.
And so the Niners are like, look, there's not the
value out there for you. We don't want to do it.
Simply don't want to do it. And if they don't
want to do it, they're under no pressure to trade
him because just like Brady suggested, it is true. They
(07:01):
don't have to do anything now, a single thing, and
he's under contract for the next couple of years. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about the MB All Star uniforms.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I thought the uniforms were softball ish and they tried
too hard.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think, just make it an All Star game.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You wear your uniforms if you want to wear those things,
and I call them things, if you want to go, hey,
we're going to Texas theme for the home run Derby, fine,
not for the All Star Games. Like I felt bad
for some of those guys that just didn't look good
in those colors. But it was definitely a.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Softball like feel.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But they've had problems with the uniforms, not only how
they look, but the quality of them. Now there is
a tweet that's out there now that the Commissioner of
Baseball says there will be conversations about returning to the
individual jerseys for next year's All Star Game. He says
that he is aware of these sentiment. That's according to
(08:01):
the Commissioner Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred. Once you say
something like that, get ready for a change in uniforms.
It's like when Roger Goodell goes, you know what, we're
listening for the eighteen games, and you know we're taking
that under consider. Rachel Okay, Commission, there's going to be
an eighteen game schedule. The question is when, not if,
(08:24):
and I do think we'll go back to the uniforms
of the individuals.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, we talked about that a lot to open the show.
So it's again, Jason, I thought you identified the biggest
issue with it. It's that I don't know anybody is
and my association should be with their team. That makes
me want to go to the ballpark, and I can't
do it when I don't know who they are and
I don't know what team they play for. Just the
(08:52):
reality of it. This is Rachel Nichols talking about the
criticism of Bronnie James.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Brownie's game been fair or unfair.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Totally unfair. I think that people are looking at him
as if he is a top ten pick. He is
not a top ten pick. He's a number fifty five pick.
The expectations for a number fifty five pick should be
that you are largely headed to the G League and
may get some games up in the NBA. Last year's
number fifty five pick played four total minutes in the NBA.
(09:21):
He didn't average four minutes a game in the NBA,
four total minutes, and those game in one game. So
to evaluate Bronni next to top ten picks versus what
other guys at number fifty five has done is totally unfair,
and obviously it's going to happen. We're all watching him
more because of who he is and the fact that
he's playing on the Lakers. Don't forget that too, in
(09:42):
addition to being Lebron's son. But he is not playing
at a level that's so much below where other players
who have been in his position have played in the past.
So to sit there and criticize him for summer league
numbers totally unfair.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
She's wrong, She's wrong. Again. It's not just it's not
the summer league numbers. It's not what he where he
will play this year. The number fifty five pick last
year was Isaiah Wong. Isaiah Wong played in the final four,
average sixteen a game at at the University of Miami.
(10:17):
Like compare that to playing on one of the worst
teams and not starting at USC and you know, and
having your NBA coach say you earned it with your
hard work. Like again, it's not just the somber numbers,
it's the Lakers drafting him when and telling and talking
about him like other people. Other teams wanted him and
(10:38):
passed on him. And yeah, there's there. There are people
making fun of him and there are people being critical
of him. I think those two things are separate and
distinctive themselves. You can be you can have critical analysis
and be totally fair. It's when you make fun of
him that you cross over anast of the line. You
just do. And obviously Rachel's sense to it, she's relaying
(11:03):
what she has been told, probably by Lebron's people, in
terms of what's fair and what's not. I would tell
you that any critique of his game is you know,
so far. I mean a lot of people go overboard.
I think the critique here has been more than more
than fair. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
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Speaker 2 (11:33):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A couple of things about that, Rachel Nichols saying, it
leads into the first thing that I'm annoyed by today. Yeah,
we would, we would act like and evaluate him like
a fifty fifth pick overall, if everybody treated it like
it was a fifty fifth pick over all from the beginning.
But Rich Paul and JJ Reddick no, but.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That let's let's just say Lebron James is the problem here. Yes,
Lebron James told told people, told the world on Twitter
that his son was better or as good as half
the dudes in the league. That's what he said. So again,
like we're we're supposed to this is one of those
uh who who told you Lebron Bronnie James was any good?
(12:29):
You did Lebron exactly the fuck you did.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You can't build the expectations and then say the evaluations
are too unfair based on the expectations you built. And
then that leads me to my first thing. So, uh,
this happened this week JJ Reddick, new Lakers head coach.
He went on Serious XM and he made this comp
about Bronnie.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
We used the example yesterday we were at the Canada
USA basketball exhibition game and I turned to one of
our assistant coaches during the game and I said, I
think I think lou Dort just single handedly broke up
the eighth possession of the game. Like his impact you
can't get into your offense. Sometimes the shot clock winds
down because of his ball pressure. He literally blows up
(13:13):
entire plays because of that pressure. And I really believe
this Ronnie eventually will be that guy.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No he won't. No he won't. No he won't. No,
he won't. If that's again, here's the here's the gaping
holes in JJ's game. Here's the difference to me and JJ. Okay,
neither of us did coach before or whatever, and so
we're but I had i'd coached a ton in au. Okay,
(13:43):
JJ hasn't really evaluated high school and college kids. He
just hasn't. And again, this is where I'm super respectful
of even my own staff, where I don't a lot
of times right now, high school kids, I temper some
of my enthusiasm and with evaluation because I haven't done
the what a high school kid looks like and what
(14:04):
he'll look like playing for me in college. I've evaluated
playing in college kids, and I'm very confident in that.
So the two places that he because when they say
he's never called a time out, like if you watch
JJ's teams play, Hey, you watch JJ's teams play, they
run way too many sets, and that's his whole thing.
I want to run run sets much. Well, that's the
guy who you haven't coached before, so you don't know.
(14:25):
There's a balance of when you you know, when you
pull the reins back and when you kind of let
him go. And you're going to learn a lot, you know,
in the first couple of weeks, and you have to process.
And I think he'll be fine eventually, but he's doing
some evaluation that he has no idea what he's doing.
He clearly never saw Loudrt play in college. He definitely
never saw Loudrt coming up. To compare those two is
(14:50):
fucking embarrassing. Again. Lou Dort limited offensively in the NBA
as a shooter, averaged sixteen a game in the PAC
twelve as they college player for one year. Lou Dort's
a legit six ' four and list it out at
two fifteen, and he's built like a brick shit house.
Brianni James is six one and a half and he's
(15:11):
somewhere in the two h five variety. They're completely different players.
Stop it with completely different mentalities as well. Just stop it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, And I mean I knew that you would you
would get into the weeds with the evaluation. I know
nothing about basketball. I don't know if that's a good
comprom not. You obviously don't think it is. But my
problem is, stop comparing this kid to people. Stop. I mean,
everybody has eyes like he doesn't pass the eye test
with somebody like me. I've watched his summer games and
(15:41):
I don't think he belongs in the NBA. So stop
comparing him to anybody. Just let him. Let just just
let this thing play out and do that side show
in the first week of the season where he gets
to play with this dad. We can get all get
some good pictures, get some good images for the GRAM,
and then send them back to g and maybe he'll
never be an NBA player after that. But anyways, all
star uniforms the one issue I have as well. We've
(16:03):
talked a lot about this, but baseball uniforms in general,
Like baseball is the one sport I follow the closest.
It's the one sport I played, I have a passion for,
and I love it dearly. If I tune into a
game or I'm watching highlights on Sports Center and I
can't identify the team on the field, that's a problem.
(16:27):
I don't know who you're catering to with all these
different uniforms and city connect and all this shit. But
it's a problem if somebody like me can't identify a
team at first glance. So just baseball uniforms in general,
they need to take a step back. They need to
dial it back. And maybe you can't put that back
in the toothpaste because you're making money off of it.
But the All Star uniforms are just the most recent
(16:50):
example of Baseball's issue with uniforms period.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well said, I wish I could disagree with you in
any way. I cannot. It's annoying.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
This is one this has been making the rounds. Cow
heard led with it today. It's uh GM of the Giants,
Joel Shane and his owner in her room. You can't
see the body language with the audio, but this is
how the audio went.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
What's the latest on I just got a text that
Chicago's driving the price up and Philly's out.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I don't know if that's true or.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Not, which I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
If I'll make a couple of calls. I don't even
know if that's gonna then it happen.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
But I have a tough time to sleep and if
Sinquan goes to film, I'll tell you that as I've
told you just being up. I had been around enough players,
but he's the most popular player we have by.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Far, so uh heard had an issue with this shows
a dysfunction if the owner and the GM are not
on the same page. The owner obviously didn't want to
get rid of him, and he certainly doesn't want him
to go to the rival in division. The thing that
sticks out to me is that Joel Shane is just
another hack NFL insider. It just got a text. Looks
(18:06):
like Chicago's driving the price up. He's doing what all
of us are guilty of doing. You should be you
should be smarter than that. Somebody's agent made a call
to a reporter and Joel Shane is quoting that report
to his owner and then say Quan ends up signing
with the Eagles. How embarrassing is that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think there's a lot to it. I I think
that the circle back to it is when when the
owner says I don't want to lose him, that's when
Joel Shane should go like, all right, we're willing to
up the offer. Because basically he went to Philadelphia for
what appears to be a million dollars more like that's
it in the contract. So everyone had about the same numbers,
(18:50):
and you know, the follow up question was missing. Okay,
so how deep are we willing to go to keep him?
You know, if it's Philadelphia, are we willing to go
above and be on what we've currently done? And they
weren't and they lost the money. I also think it's
done for Sakwon Markley to go to Philadelphia when you
could have been a giant for life and that would
have paid off, you know, tenfold in post career stuff.
(19:15):
But this is in fact his choice. What's the most
annoying hm m hmm. What was the first one?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know we had issue with JJ Reddick's comp there?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, JJ redicks annoying. He's he's so, he's so fucking arrogant.
It's always been a little bit much. And now when
he's making if you're going to be that arrogant and
you're making comps, and I understand what he's saying, but
it's not an appropriate comp JJ.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Ridick is annoying.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Let's find out.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Only because we can.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Doug, I don't know, I don't know the context here,
but this is all. This is what I know. This
is what I know. The Las Vegas Aces lost last night.
Asia Wilson is the best player in the w n
B A. I've been told she sees Usher coming up
from the tunnel and she's making a comment I think
(20:22):
about teammates. Listen closely here. Okay, that was awful. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna say what she said. She says,
they ain't done ship all day, but they want to
take a motherfucking picture with Usher. I don't know if
(20:44):
that's her teammates that haven't done ship with all day,
but anyways. It was caught on a live mic during
an n b A w NBA game, So because we can.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I love it. I love it's the whole idea of
like if you lose, you don't get to go take
a picture with Usher, Like if you lose, get your shit,
get to the locker room, will figure it out. I
actually like that. Asia Wilson scored some points to me there.
I hate that, like, you lose, you're gonna go take
pictures of people Like nah, I don't really like that. Why
can we play for you because we can't. All right,
(21:15):
that's it for the end the bonus podcast. I got
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