August 12, 2024 • 31 mins
Doug riffs on Team USA's performance at the Olympics in France. Doug welcomes Dave Revsine from the Big 10 Network to break down the college football season in the Big 10 conference. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, A'Ja Wilson makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Obviously, we're gonna get to the Olympics. And I had
you know, it's interesting. I've tried to tell people for
a long time. You have to disconnect your expectations because
though we have NBA stars, it's really like playing not
necessarily left handed, but again, just imagine so many of
the things and ways in which you were taught basketball changing.
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And I said this on my All Ball podcast, and
it really does ring true. Like a good portion of
why we struggle to win gold medals despite the fact
that we have what university will be regarded as better players,
is because how our system is so screwed up. And
here's what I mean. Okay, you take so many of
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those French players who you've never heard of, and they
play on some level overseas. Even the guy who dunked
on Lebron James. He average like two and a half
points for Real Madrid. But because he has come up
in the French system, one, he has a working knowledge
of all those guys. Secondly, he's come off the bench before,
he knows how to be a role player. I think
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it's a huge key. And then of course there's some
of the rules, and maybe not even the rules. The
way in which the game is officiated is so different
than here that we struggle to adjust.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
But make no mistake about it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The fact that, and I'll point myself out as being
a long time ago guilty, Like I wanted to go
to a college where I could start right away.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I went to a high school where I wanted to play.
As a freshman.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I didn't play as much as I wanted to, but
I started three years in high school, four years in college,
and then you know, you get to playing professional basketball,
and the higher level, the less likely the are to
start or play a bunch of minutes. It's a very
difficult adjustment. So foreign players also already have that they
don't have to adjust to it. I just think it's
fascinating how poorly we can mismanaged player's career, and many
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times we do it out of autruism, like we're trying
to help everybody, like, hey man, go somewhere, you're gonna play,
You're gonna get better playing. You're right, But you also
do learn at times sitting you do. You learn how
to sit, You learn how to play in kind of
condensed periods of time. But I still love watching it,
and that was a hell of a win.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Hell of a win.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Also want to point out that while I didn't watch
a ton of preseason football, I watched enough, and I
think there's one pass calab Williams made that everybody's ooing
and eyeing over. But so much of that sport is,
like so much of basketball, it's about confidence. Yes, plenty
of people that have the talent to do it, but
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you have to remain steadfast and confident.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Steph Curry has.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He wasn't playing well up until the last couple minutes
when he made poor threes, but he has just indelible confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Quarterbacks are the same way.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And I don't know what Caleb Love's ceiling is, and
obviously living now in Green Bay, saying anything nice about
the Bears is seen as talking about the devil in
glowing terms. You know, it's like the Devil Putin and
Chicago Bears like maybe not even that order in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
but the Bear. I think the Bears have a dude.
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I think he's worth the number one pick. I think
he's different than everybody else. I think he's a super
talented kid. And it's just gonna be weird to see
the Bears with competent star quarterback play and one who
honestly plays more like Aaron Rodgers than he does anybody else.
Packers still owned the Bears, but the Bears appear to
have their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
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Speaker 3 (04:04):
Let's welcome in one of my I actually think my
oldest friend in the business.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Dave Revson joins us, of course, lead host for the
Big Ten Network, and we got lucky. We got Rever
on his day off of their training camp tour. So, okay,
this is you've always done the get on the bus,
go to all the schools. Then you expanded to Rutgers
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and he had Nebraska, and the bus trip got even bigger.
Are you guys gonna hit up all the West Coast
schools too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, first of all, I just want to clarify I'm
your oldest friend in the business, not chronologically right, I'm
starting to get extensive about the age a little bit.
You do know a few older people, right.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
This is true?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And and you Sunnily look, I know you think you
look different, but I think you actually do not age,
So it's kind of unfair anyway.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But yeah, so I saw you guys at Washington, right,
do you guys go to.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You dub We did. So here's what's going on with
the tour. We are doing all eighteen schools as a network,
but no one individual is doing all eighteen. I am
not doing the West Coast schools. We have hired Ashley
Adamson from the Pack Call Networks is just awesome. I
don't know if you know her, but she does a
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fabulous job. I was out at all the West Coast
schools this summer shooting ten Trailblazers, which is an interview
series I do, so I got to meet with coaches
and personnel when I was out there. But in terms
of actually doing the training camp, Yogi Roth is joining
Ashley for those. Jerry DeNardo did go out there as well,
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so we're kind of mixing and matching on those. I
think I'm actually seeing twelve of the eighteen in person,
and then you know, kind of trying to get as
much insight as I can the other six. But it's
coast to coast, as you know, it's pretty daunting this year.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And look, I think the Big Ten epitomizes what the
rest of college football is going through this year.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's very very different, and for a sport that is
so tradition laden, finally getting to where we have a
true college wall Playoff is fascinating and amazing. But there's
just like the expansion of the Big Ten, there's gonna
be some bumps in the road. There's gonna be some
weird It's just weird to have Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and
USC in the Big Ten, is it not.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, when you look at the schedule, I think
it kind of you know, you do a little bit
of a double take. You think about where we were
in college athletics ten fifteen years ago and where we
are now. I mean, so much has changed, and I
think if you would have told me back then that
this was the scenario we were going to be and
I would have told you you were crazy. But now
when you think about kind of what what it's become,
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and that so much of it is based around television,
you know, from our point of view, it makes great sense.
I mean, I would say it being at all those schools.
Obviously the scenery is a little bit different in the background.
You know, no one's gonna mistake some of these campuses,
you know, Eugene or Seattle or either the LA schools
for some of the Midwestern schools. But in terms of
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the field of the place, you know, big state universities
with a ton of passion for their teams, that part
of it does make sense. And man, I mean, the
league got so much better, as you know, Doug. It's
incredible what they've added in terms of these four programs.
And I just can't wait to see him compete.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, and then you have finally the Big Ten gets
a national champion, and the Big Ten gets a national
champion not named Ohio State and it's Michigan. And then
oh yeah, by the way, Jim Harbaugh leaves. And now
there's obviously penalties levied against the former coach and against
than the new head coach. Take me through Michigan, because
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you and I have talked every year, would this be
the year there was the change on offense, the changed
in schematics, the kind of they went kind of back
to the drawing board in terms of what they want
to do with their offensive line play, and eventually they
got to where they were just a thoroughly dominant team,
not just in the Big Ten, but outside of the
Big Ten. What's Michigan going to look like year after
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Harball wins the national championship.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm totally fascinated to see this. We're going in I
think eight days we will be there, and so I'll
have a much better sense then. It's a massive turnover,
especially on offense. I mean they only have one starter
back from last year, Sharon More. Obviously, now the head coach,
Kirk Campbell, who was the quarterback coach, becomes the offensive coordinator,
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who was an offensive analyst prior to that. So I
mean we're only a few years removed from him not
even being you know, a coach that counted on the field,
and now he's the offensive coordinator. There's a lot of
intrigue around what the quarterbacks Bottel look like. Whether it's
Tux Orange, who takes over, who has thrown one pass
in his career, Jack Tunnelson around a lot of different
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programs Utah, Indiana, Michigan. He is a seventh year guy.
Will this be the year that he finally gets a
chance to be a full time starting quarterback. There's just
so many questions there on offense. I think defensively they'll
be really good. They bring back they lose a lot,
and they lost a lot of NFL talent. But along
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the front, which is so important, you know in any league.
I'm not going to say the Big Ten is unique
to that, but particularly in the Big Ten, which has
been a line of scrimmage league. You know, Mason Graham,
Kenneth Grant, those guys are fabulous at defensive tackle. You're
talking about one of the best defensive backs in the
Big Ten, if not in the country. And Will Johnson,
I know, for those who play the EA Sports game,
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he's the highest rated player on the entire game. He's
really fabulous. They went into the portal and the had
some big names in that secondary, so I think they'll
be really good on defense to be the questions on offense,
and then just the changes they're made. Like you, Jim
Harbaugh is indisputably a really good coach, you lose him.
This is the first time Sharon Moore's been doing this.
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You got new coordinators on both sides of the ball.
I just I think there are a lot of question marks,
but there's a ton of talent there. Like, I don't
think we're going to go there and see a team
that's devoid of talent. I think the issues just going
to be are they able to put it all together?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No question.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Then you have Ohio State, the team that they've recently dominated,
and I mean, you go out and get a Chip
Kelly from being a head coach at UCLA being your
offensive coordinator and whatever. The reality of how much they're
spending in the portal it seems like a lot right
Ohio State is They were like, oh, okay, we get
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we're just people say you can't throw money in a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
They did, what's Ohio State look like this year?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, I mean, my sense is really good. We were
out there last week and it was it was pretty amazing. Doug.
I mean, I would just say, talent wise, I'm sure
you saw the comment that Urban Meyer made when he
was out there that maybe this was the most talent
that he had seen in a college team. And I'm
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wondering what Ryan Day was thinking when he saw her
Bean saying that, because obviously had ratchets up the pressure
even more. But I can see why Urban would have
said that. I mean, it is as talented a team
as we have seen in eighteen years of doing this.
The defense is crazy good, I mean, really really amazing.
They were really good defensively last year. They basically bring
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back everyone. I mean they were second in the nation
scoring defense and they had it. Caleb down To is
the SEC freshman of the year at Alabama. He's just
an incredible play or. The depth on the line was fabulous.
I mean they really really look good offensively. Quarterback was
not great the day we were there, and that'd be
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the one thing that I would say might give you
some pause. Will Howard came in from Kansas State. You
know he was just you know him well. I mean
you call the big twelve Welling certainly a solid player.
Was he the best guy in the portal? Probably not,
at least not on paper. They have a deep and
talented room Devin Brown's back. He was a highly chauted
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kid a couple of years ago. Julian sand who's a
five star in the top quarterback in the class, came
from Alabama after Nick Saban left. He certainly throws a
really nice ball, but I don't think he's going to
be the starting quarterback in year one at Ohio State,
So that to me is the question mark. But everything
else there looked tremendous. The wide receiver room is always
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an incredible WAYDC Jeremiah Smith, Doug, I mean freshman wide
receiver is considered the best player the class. He made
a catch when we were there that was mind boggling.
He's just so good. So you know, and as you say,
no one knows how much they spent in the portal,
but ross by Ork estimated that it was twenty million dollars.
That's the athletic director talking there, so you know we're
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not again he didn't have an exact number. I don't
know if anyone knows the exact number, but if the
ad goes on record is saying he estimates twenty million,
it certainly wasn't three million. You know, we know that
it was a lot, and you can see why. I mean,
you look around on that field and it's not so
much the front line talent. It's just that they have
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guy after guy after guy. It's really remarkable.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I do want to ask about your alma manor. Obviously
last year there was the big controversy and the coaching change,
and they had a very a surprisingly good season considering
all the tumult. So now the football team is being
redone actually kind of basically built from stratch right right
there on campus where the old one was. So there's
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a temporary facility just off the lake that the Wildcat's
going to plane for two years.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It sets how many.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
People I think it's about fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Can we could a punt go into the lake. And
again I'm just looking at it and going like, I
don't know, And I know the wind comes out the lake,
so be hard for a punt to get there, But
how close is that lake to the one that the
smaller side of the visiting sidelines.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, Doug, the reason it's he's fifteen thousand is you
can't put seats really on either sideline, So just get
people an idea that is that is the soccer and
lacrosse field and behind it is a field hockey stadium.
So the issue is you can't really build stands back
into the field hockey stadium, so all the stands basically
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have to be in the end zones. But there is
a running path that goes along the lake there. I
don't know, I mean, I would guess I'm not great
with distance. I don't know. It's maybe twenty feet from
that sideline, thirty feet to the lake something like that.
I mean, it can't be much more than that. So,
I mean it's crazy how close it is. You know, Look,
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I don't think there are many schools that could do
this other than Northwestern. I mean, it's just not a
place that's gonna for eighty thousand fans, you know, obviously
fifteen thousand business far less than they draw for a
normal game. And they're playing two games Ohio State in
Illinois at Wrigley Field. The issue is there was just
nowhere else to play. You can't play Soldier Field because
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of the grass, and the park district won't allow it
because of the Bears games, and they don't want to
get it torn up. Wrigleyfield and the White Sox Stadium,
at least in theory, we're being occupied through the end
of October. I think we could have safely assumed that
the White Sox wouldn't be in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But honestly, I know you're a White Sox fan.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think you would like, Hey, do you guys want
to give up a home game for the Cats to play?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yes, please, yes, please?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A women's soccer stadium that's in the Southwest suburbs that
is an hour from campus and honestly isn't a very
nice stadium, and that was it. I mean, they really
had nowhere else to go, so this far in a
way makes the most sense. I actually think it's gonna
be a ton of fun. It'll be. It's very different,
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no doubt. I don't think a punk could go into
the water because, as you said, the winds tend to
come off the water. But you know, a real violent shake.
I mean, I had some golf shots that I that
end up in places I never think they could end
up so them.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I can vouch for that. I really can't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I just never know. But it's really close. It's going
to be a unique setting, to say the least, and
I think they'll have fun with it. For it'll be
probably ten games over the next two years.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Can you imagine how big like Wisconsin comes to town.
Can you imagine how big their offensive line? Those guys
will look on that tiny field, right, they will look
gigantic like I used to because obviously when I played
it at oklahom State, we had a tiny, little arena
and I just remember like Kansas would come in and
it would look like did the.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Floor just shrink? How'd they get How the guys get
so big?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I got two more for you. Dave Revson joining US
Big Ten Network? Okay, Iowa, Okay, no more Brian Ferns. Right,
problem solved. They're gonna light up scoreboards or maybe not?
What the the like? Listen, the defense is amazing, the
punter is amazing. Will they'll be able to score offensive
touchdowns this year through the air?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well? The report from the first scrimmage wasn't great, which
much when you're alluding to it seems like Kate mcameric
did not have a great day. You know, I've been
saying they're a dark horse to make the college football
Playoff because of the top college football playoff contenders in
the Big Ten. I mean, the only one they play
is Ohio. Stay. You know, they don't play Penn State,
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they don't play Michigan, they don't play Oregon. They're going
to have a great defense. Tim Lester is someone who
I respect a lot. He was head coach of Western Michigan.
Those of us who are in Midwest have seen his
teams through the years. He's really good. I don't know.
I mean, I was discouraged when I saw the report
on what the scrimmage looked like the other day. You know,
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it seems like maybe came back in the Marrea. I
don't know whether he's just not healthy or what the
deal is. They did bring in a little bit of
help in terms of the receiver room. You know, maybe
that that improvement can can get them to a point
where they're reasonable offensively. You know, again, I don't want
to say one scrimmage dictates everything, but I was discouraged
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to see that because I do think like on paper,
they're going to be awesome on defense. The schedule's really favorable,
but they have to be significantly better offensively. Although you know,
last year it went ten and four, so you know,
and they were ten and three in the regular or
ten and two in the regular season, then lost the
Big Ten championship games. If you're ten and two in
the regular season, Doug like into Big Ten, you're in
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the conversation like last year's team would have been in
the conversation for making it to that twelve team playoff.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I know, I know, I don't think they would have
because I don't think anybody want to see that. But
uh okay, last one Nebraska, right, like they last time
the Big Ten expanded, Nebraska was supposed to bring with
it the football prominence and change how we looked at
the Big Ten West, right, and they just even brought
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Scott Frost back. Everyone thought that would work. That that
didn't work. They seem to kind of be figuring it
out at the end of last year and seem to
have the pieces they get Colorado.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
On their home soil upcoming in the year. What are
what are our thoughts here year two of this regime.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was actually spending a little time on them today
because we're heading out there. I'm going out there tomorrow night.
We'll be there for practice on Wednesday. I'm really optimistic
about Nebraska. I think the schedule really helps them, particularly
early on. They have five of their first six games
at home. It seems like Colorado's and a little bit
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of disarray. So that's gonna be a big game in
Week two there between Nebraska and Colorado. Obviously, Colorado beat
them pretty handily last year and got off to that
really good start. I think Nebraska wins that game. They
pick up a ton of momentum. They have a lot back,
they were really good on defense. They've just got to
stop turning the ball over. I mean it was alarming.
They were minus seventy turnover ratio last year, had thirty
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one on the year. The big excitement is Dylan Riola,
who is considered one of the best quarterbacks in that class.
He comes from Nebraska Royalty. Donovan Roola won the Rivington
Trophy at Nebraska's uncle is on the staff there, so
you know that's part of what they're hanging their hat on.
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They bring a lot back and then they went into
the portal and upgraded and wide receiver and got a
little running back help as well. I'm really bullish on
this team. I mean, I don't think I'm college football
playoff bullish. I think it's a little bit too big
of a jump, but I'd be astonished. Doug if they
don't make a bowl game. And it's crazy when you
think about the Power Conference team with the longest bull
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drought is Nebraska. Seven years in a row without making
it to a bowl game. And this was I mean,
you know, making up to a bowl game. Was that
they went more than thirty years in a row making
the bowl every single year. So the ocean they've gone
seven years without making one is kind of unfathomablele I
can't imagine a scenario where they don't make one this year.
I think they'll be bowling and I think they'll be
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a competitive, top half of the Big ten kind of team.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
All right, last one, I lied up. I do have
one more.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Feels like Oregon is the pick of the the new
teams to make the biggest kind of hay in the conference.
But are we selling USC short? Like I get that
they were disappointing last year, it is year three. They
were really really pretty good year one. And I know
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you lose Caleb Williams, but they've recruited recently. Like, are
we sure that USC is not going to be a
contender in this thing?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, I'm not sure. I just think their schedules really hard.
I mean, you open with LSU. They've also played for
Daimon the non conference at the end of the year.
In conference, they've got Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State. I know
they don't play Ohio State, but still, I mean you
kind of look through the rest of that group, it's
a pretty tough schedule. And then defensively, I mean, they
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just have so far to go. They were so bad
last year. They did get Dan Layn, who was the
defensive coordinator at UCLA. They made a huge jump in
their defense last year. They bring him across town. It's
not as if they got massive gains though in the portal.
So you know, to me, I guess the question mark
is is the defense good enough, particularly in the interior, Like,
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if you're not good on the line of scrimmage on defense,
you're gonna struggle in the Big Ten. You're struggle in
any league, but I think particularly in the Big Ten.
So look, there's no doubt in my mind they'll score
a ton of points. I mean, you think about how
good USC's been through the years, the last two years,
or the first time they've got back to back teams
like forty or more points ever in the history of
the program. So they'll be great there. The question to
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me is schedule and are they that much better on
defense that they can you know, at least make people
work to score points. That was really the issue last year.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All right, So what's what's left in terms of the camps.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So let's see, I've got Nebraska. I'm taking a couple
often to take one of my daughters back to school.
And then I've got Michigan, Michigan States, Northwestern. So I've
got four left. I've seen eight and yeah, you know,
it's always you learn a ton. I mean, it's really
been great so far.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, we expect the Big Ten Basketball Tour and stop
at Fledgling. Maybe who knows, in the future Big Ten
basketball power. You do have Green Bay in the meantime,
I mean to be asking if we'd have time with Wisconsin.
I'm interested by what Luke Fickle does there. The league
is so vast. Michigan State, of course, you go back
six seven years ago, they were a power in this league.
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You're gonna have a lot of fun. It's a lot
of work, I know, but you're up for it. Thanks
so much for doing us, Rev.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Speaking of people working hard, Dog, good luck with the
Phoenix I'll talk to you soon. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Let's find out who? What's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Hey, what's annoying you today?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
The US winning the goal doesn't annoy me? But what
does annoy me is this exchange with Lebron James after.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
There's the Dream Team, Redeemed Team. What's this team? The Avengers?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
He says, it's the Avengers. My question to Lebron James
would be, what are they avenging? This is a team
that is supposed to win, that hasn't lost since what
two thousand and four? I'm trying to think of what
they are avenging? And then your next natural question is, well,
what were the Avengers avenging in movies? So I went
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ahead and looked it up. Captain America clarifies the name
while speaking at the funeral for one of the one
of his dying comrades. Steve Rodgers explains that there's a
reason why the team is not called the Defenders or
the Protectors. They're called the Avengers. According to Kat, the
name is appropriate because they only act after a wrong
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has been committed. They don't seek out justice, they react
after a wrong has been committed. And this is not
consistent with Lebron James calling this team the Avengers. I'm
just not going to accept it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
He means, though, that the Avengers is a collection of
the greatest superheroes on planet Earth, and he's not terribly
far off, like that was pretty cool to see when
they played Serbia five five MVPs on the court at
the same time, of course, four from playing for a
team USA. But I understand what you're saying. Lebron just
says tendency to annoy you. I get that as well.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
French. The French lost in that game, and then the
French blew it against the women.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I get total choke job.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I don't remember ever openly rooting for a USA team
more than I did yesterday. That was annoying, wasn't it.
How did it happen, you.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Bow, That's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I think pressure, you know, I think the pressure of
the moment sometimes playing at home. I also think that
the US team was just more talented and better. But
and part of it was they were playing so poorly
for so long, But most of it is that they
were just better, and then I think they couldn't you know,
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They're just a possession of your possession there, a bad
shot here, a turnover there, and just kind of added
up and then you hit a three with your foot
on the line at the end of the game, much
like that Kevin Durant one against the Bucks in like
the second round of the playoffs when Kyrie was hurt
and Harden had the bad hamstring. There is another part
to it, but yes, the French had themselves a rough
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day yesterday, real rough.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Day, Doug. During this segment last week, we talked about
the passing of Billy Bean, not the A's gum, but
Billy Bean, the first openly gay Major leaguer. Now he
did it after we retired, so there technically has never
been a major leaguer to come out of the closet
to the media. Ever, it's never happened. It's twenty twenty
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four and we have yet to have one gay baseball
player come out. And I did the math, and there's
like an average of one gay ballplayer per clubhouse. One
for every twenty five men in our country are gay,
So that means one every clubhouse and no one has
come out, And you're asking yourself, why why would that be?
Why would a person not feel comfortable coming out in
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a major league clubhouse? All star Red Sox player Jaren
Duran offered up a reason yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Durana two ninety six with runners in scoring position for
the year.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In case you didn't hear that, that's Jared Duran during
and at bat at Fenway calling a fan a fucking faggot.
Just imagine how comfortable you are using that word if
you use it to a paying customer at a home game.
Just imagine how comfortable you're using that word. So, of
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course there was an apology statement released. I feel awful
knowing how many people I offended during tonight's game. I
use a truly horrific word when responding to a fan.
Blah blah blah, LGBT community blah blah blah. I'm a
role model. I guarantee that apology didn't come from him.
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I guarantee he uses that all the time in the clubhouse,
and just yesterday I think he was told that that's
not something you're supposed to say out.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, yeah, that was not a good moment, but you're
you're right. I it's one of those. And look, we
can sit here and be only critical of baseball. But
I mean Kobe Bryant said the same word as well.
But yes, I mean to a Remember, they're paying customers.
That's a huge thing.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I learned that one. I learned that one the hard
way about paying insulting paying customers. When I was back at.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
The ESPN that that happened in Boston. In Boston, Oh,
I'm shocked. I'm shocked at that happened in Boston. So
uh Lebron James using Avengers, the US women for winning,
and the Jared Durant situation.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm gonna say the French plus I don't I don't
know what happened, but it seemed like, uh, Steph Curry's
wife was was brought to tears. You know, they're like
celebrating like some one of the great moments your family.
She got a baby with her. You know, they're out
there and somebody was They're just the fans were too much,
the people are too much, and you couldn't win either
of those home games in the Olympics, you had the
women down a bunch.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, the French are annoying. That's what easy, Dear French,
she's your annoying.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Because we can.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hey, Doug, remember when Pat McAfee was canceled for twenty
four hours because he called Caitlin Clark a bitch. Yes,
it was a horrible word. You should never use that
word when talking about a woman. It's awful. Never use
that word. So Asia Wilson, coming off of her gold
medal game against the front yesterday, one word.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
For Kolia Copper today that bait.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
She can get away with it because she can't. I
get it. I do know the Urban dictionary to it.
But it's like, really, that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It's because she can does it's.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Because she can. He just doesn't mean you should, but
you obviously can't. That's it for the end the Bonus Podcast.
She got the radio show every day three to five
Eastern noon to two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
Just download it. You'll love it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Obviously, we're gonna get to the Olympics. And I had
you know, it's interesting. I've tried to tell people for
a long time. You have to disconnect your expectations because
though we have NBA stars, it's really like playing not
necessarily left handed, but again, just imagine so many of
the things and ways in which you were taught basketball changing.
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And I said this on my All Ball podcast, and
it really does ring true. Like a good portion of
why we struggle to win gold medals despite the fact
that we have what university will be regarded as better players,
is because how our system is so screwed up. And
here's what I mean. Okay, you take so many of
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those French players who you've never heard of, and they
play on some level overseas. Even the guy who dunked
on Lebron James. He average like two and a half
points for Real Madrid. But because he has come up
in the French system, one, he has a working knowledge
of all those guys. Secondly, he's come off the bench before,
he knows how to be a role player. I think
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it's a huge key. And then of course there's some
of the rules, and maybe not even the rules. The
way in which the game is officiated is so different
than here that we struggle to adjust.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
But make no mistake about it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The fact that, and I'll point myself out as being
a long time ago guilty, Like I wanted to go
to a college where I could start right away.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I went to a high school where I wanted to play.
As a freshman.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I didn't play as much as I wanted to, but
I started three years in high school, four years in college,
and then you know, you get to playing professional basketball,
and the higher level, the less likely the are to
start or play a bunch of minutes. It's a very
difficult adjustment. So foreign players also already have that they
don't have to adjust to it. I just think it's
fascinating how poorly we can mismanaged player's career, and many
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times we do it out of autruism, like we're trying
to help everybody, like, hey man, go somewhere, you're gonna play,
You're gonna get better playing. You're right, But you also
do learn at times sitting you do. You learn how
to sit, You learn how to play in kind of
condensed periods of time. But I still love watching it,
and that was a hell of a win.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Hell of a win.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Also want to point out that while I didn't watch
a ton of preseason football, I watched enough, and I
think there's one pass calab Williams made that everybody's ooing
and eyeing over. But so much of that sport is,
like so much of basketball, it's about confidence. Yes, plenty
of people that have the talent to do it, but
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you have to remain steadfast and confident.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Steph Curry has.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He wasn't playing well up until the last couple minutes
when he made poor threes, but he has just indelible confidence.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Quarterbacks are the same way.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And I don't know what Caleb Love's ceiling is, and
obviously living now in Green Bay, saying anything nice about
the Bears is seen as talking about the devil in
glowing terms. You know, it's like the Devil Putin and
Chicago Bears like maybe not even that order in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
but the Bear. I think the Bears have a dude.
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I think he's worth the number one pick. I think
he's different than everybody else. I think he's a super
talented kid. And it's just gonna be weird to see
the Bears with competent star quarterback play and one who
honestly plays more like Aaron Rodgers than he does anybody else.
Packers still owned the Bears, but the Bears appear to
have their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
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Speaker 3 (04:04):
Let's welcome in one of my I actually think my
oldest friend in the business.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Dave Revson joins us, of course, lead host for the
Big Ten Network, and we got lucky. We got Rever
on his day off of their training camp tour. So, okay,
this is you've always done the get on the bus,
go to all the schools. Then you expanded to Rutgers
(04:29):
and he had Nebraska, and the bus trip got even bigger.
Are you guys gonna hit up all the West Coast
schools too.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, first of all, I just want to clarify I'm
your oldest friend in the business, not chronologically right, I'm
starting to get extensive about the age a little bit.
You do know a few older people, right.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
This is true?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And and you Sunnily look, I know you think you
look different, but I think you actually do not age,
So it's kind of unfair anyway.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But yeah, so I saw you guys at Washington, right,
do you guys go to.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You dub We did. So here's what's going on with
the tour. We are doing all eighteen schools as a network,
but no one individual is doing all eighteen. I am
not doing the West Coast schools. We have hired Ashley
Adamson from the Pack Call Networks is just awesome. I
don't know if you know her, but she does a
(05:25):
fabulous job. I was out at all the West Coast
schools this summer shooting ten Trailblazers, which is an interview
series I do, so I got to meet with coaches
and personnel when I was out there. But in terms
of actually doing the training camp, Yogi Roth is joining
Ashley for those. Jerry DeNardo did go out there as well,
(05:47):
so we're kind of mixing and matching on those. I
think I'm actually seeing twelve of the eighteen in person,
and then you know, kind of trying to get as
much insight as I can the other six. But it's
coast to coast, as you know, it's pretty daunting this year.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And look, I think the Big Ten epitomizes what the
rest of college football is going through this year.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's exciting.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's very very different, and for a sport that is
so tradition laden, finally getting to where we have a
true college wall Playoff is fascinating and amazing. But there's
just like the expansion of the Big Ten, there's gonna
be some bumps in the road. There's gonna be some
weird It's just weird to have Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and
USC in the Big Ten, is it not.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, when you look at the schedule, I think
it kind of you know, you do a little bit
of a double take. You think about where we were
in college athletics ten fifteen years ago and where we
are now. I mean, so much has changed, and I
think if you would have told me back then that
this was the scenario we were going to be and
I would have told you you were crazy. But now
when you think about kind of what what it's become,
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and that so much of it is based around television,
you know, from our point of view, it makes great sense.
I mean, I would say it being at all those schools.
Obviously the scenery is a little bit different in the background.
You know, no one's gonna mistake some of these campuses,
you know, Eugene or Seattle or either the LA schools
for some of the Midwestern schools. But in terms of
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the field of the place, you know, big state universities
with a ton of passion for their teams, that part
of it does make sense. And man, I mean, the
league got so much better, as you know, Doug. It's
incredible what they've added in terms of these four programs.
And I just can't wait to see him compete.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, and then you have finally the Big Ten gets
a national champion, and the Big Ten gets a national
champion not named Ohio State and it's Michigan. And then
oh yeah, by the way, Jim Harbaugh leaves. And now
there's obviously penalties levied against the former coach and against
than the new head coach. Take me through Michigan, because
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you and I have talked every year, would this be
the year there was the change on offense, the changed
in schematics, the kind of they went kind of back
to the drawing board in terms of what they want
to do with their offensive line play, and eventually they
got to where they were just a thoroughly dominant team,
not just in the Big Ten, but outside of the
Big Ten. What's Michigan going to look like year after
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Harball wins the national championship.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm totally fascinated to see this. We're going in I
think eight days we will be there, and so I'll
have a much better sense then. It's a massive turnover,
especially on offense. I mean they only have one starter
back from last year, Sharon More. Obviously, now the head coach,
Kirk Campbell, who was the quarterback coach, becomes the offensive coordinator,
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who was an offensive analyst prior to that. So I
mean we're only a few years removed from him not
even being you know, a coach that counted on the field,
and now he's the offensive coordinator. There's a lot of
intrigue around what the quarterbacks Bottel look like. Whether it's
Tux Orange, who takes over, who has thrown one pass
in his career, Jack Tunnelson around a lot of different
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programs Utah, Indiana, Michigan. He is a seventh year guy.
Will this be the year that he finally gets a
chance to be a full time starting quarterback. There's just
so many questions there on offense. I think defensively they'll
be really good. They bring back they lose a lot,
and they lost a lot of NFL talent. But along
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the front, which is so important, you know in any league.
I'm not going to say the Big Ten is unique
to that, but particularly in the Big Ten, which has
been a line of scrimmage league. You know, Mason Graham,
Kenneth Grant, those guys are fabulous at defensive tackle. You're
talking about one of the best defensive backs in the
Big Ten, if not in the country. And Will Johnson,
I know, for those who play the EA Sports game,
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he's the highest rated player on the entire game. He's
really fabulous. They went into the portal and the had
some big names in that secondary, so I think they'll
be really good on defense to be the questions on offense,
and then just the changes they're made. Like you, Jim
Harbaugh is indisputably a really good coach, you lose him.
This is the first time Sharon Moore's been doing this.
(10:22):
You got new coordinators on both sides of the ball.
I just I think there are a lot of question marks,
but there's a ton of talent there. Like, I don't
think we're going to go there and see a team
that's devoid of talent. I think the issues just going
to be are they able to put it all together?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No question.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Then you have Ohio State, the team that they've recently dominated,
and I mean, you go out and get a Chip
Kelly from being a head coach at UCLA being your
offensive coordinator and whatever. The reality of how much they're
spending in the portal it seems like a lot right
Ohio State is They were like, oh, okay, we get
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we're just people say you can't throw money in a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
They did, what's Ohio State look like this year?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, I mean, my sense is really good. We were
out there last week and it was it was pretty amazing. Doug.
I mean, I would just say, talent wise, I'm sure
you saw the comment that Urban Meyer made when he
was out there that maybe this was the most talent
that he had seen in a college team. And I'm
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wondering what Ryan Day was thinking when he saw her
Bean saying that, because obviously had ratchets up the pressure
even more. But I can see why Urban would have
said that. I mean, it is as talented a team
as we have seen in eighteen years of doing this.
The defense is crazy good, I mean, really really amazing.
They were really good defensively last year. They basically bring
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back everyone. I mean they were second in the nation
scoring defense and they had it. Caleb down To is
the SEC freshman of the year at Alabama. He's just
an incredible play or. The depth on the line was fabulous.
I mean they really really look good offensively. Quarterback was
not great the day we were there, and that'd be
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the one thing that I would say might give you
some pause. Will Howard came in from Kansas State. You
know he was just you know him well. I mean
you call the big twelve Welling certainly a solid player.
Was he the best guy in the portal? Probably not,
at least not on paper. They have a deep and
talented room Devin Brown's back. He was a highly chauted
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kid a couple of years ago. Julian sand who's a
five star in the top quarterback in the class, came
from Alabama after Nick Saban left. He certainly throws a
really nice ball, but I don't think he's going to
be the starting quarterback in year one at Ohio State,
So that to me is the question mark. But everything
else there looked tremendous. The wide receiver room is always
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an incredible WAYDC Jeremiah Smith, Doug, I mean freshman wide
receiver is considered the best player the class. He made
a catch when we were there that was mind boggling.
He's just so good. So you know, and as you say,
no one knows how much they spent in the portal,
but ross by Ork estimated that it was twenty million dollars.
That's the athletic director talking there, so you know we're
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not again he didn't have an exact number. I don't
know if anyone knows the exact number, but if the
ad goes on record is saying he estimates twenty million,
it certainly wasn't three million. You know, we know that
it was a lot, and you can see why. I mean,
you look around on that field and it's not so
much the front line talent. It's just that they have
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guy after guy after guy. It's really remarkable.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I do want to ask about your alma manor. Obviously
last year there was the big controversy and the coaching change,
and they had a very a surprisingly good season considering
all the tumult. So now the football team is being
redone actually kind of basically built from stratch right right
there on campus where the old one was. So there's
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a temporary facility just off the lake that the Wildcat's
going to plane for two years.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It sets how many.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
People I think it's about fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Can we could a punt go into the lake. And
again I'm just looking at it and going like, I
don't know, And I know the wind comes out the lake,
so be hard for a punt to get there, But
how close is that lake to the one that the
smaller side of the visiting sidelines.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, Doug, the reason it's he's fifteen thousand is you
can't put seats really on either sideline, So just get
people an idea that is that is the soccer and
lacrosse field and behind it is a field hockey stadium.
So the issue is you can't really build stands back
into the field hockey stadium, so all the stands basically
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have to be in the end zones. But there is
a running path that goes along the lake there. I
don't know, I mean, I would guess I'm not great
with distance. I don't know. It's maybe twenty feet from
that sideline, thirty feet to the lake something like that.
I mean, it can't be much more than that. So,
I mean it's crazy how close it is. You know, Look,
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I don't think there are many schools that could do
this other than Northwestern. I mean, it's just not a
place that's gonna for eighty thousand fans, you know, obviously
fifteen thousand business far less than they draw for a
normal game. And they're playing two games Ohio State in
Illinois at Wrigley Field. The issue is there was just
nowhere else to play. You can't play Soldier Field because
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of the grass, and the park district won't allow it
because of the Bears games, and they don't want to
get it torn up. Wrigleyfield and the White Sox Stadium,
at least in theory, we're being occupied through the end
of October. I think we could have safely assumed that
the White Sox wouldn't be in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But honestly, I know you're a White Sox fan.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think you would like, Hey, do you guys want
to give up a home game for the Cats to play?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yes, please, yes, please?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A women's soccer stadium that's in the Southwest suburbs that
is an hour from campus and honestly isn't a very
nice stadium, and that was it. I mean, they really
had nowhere else to go, so this far in a
way makes the most sense. I actually think it's gonna
be a ton of fun. It'll be. It's very different,
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no doubt. I don't think a punk could go into
the water because, as you said, the winds tend to
come off the water. But you know, a real violent shake.
I mean, I had some golf shots that I that
end up in places I never think they could end
up so them.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I can vouch for that. I really can't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I just never know. But it's really close. It's going
to be a unique setting, to say the least, and
I think they'll have fun with it. For it'll be
probably ten games over the next two years.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Can you imagine how big like Wisconsin comes to town.
Can you imagine how big their offensive line? Those guys
will look on that tiny field, right, they will look
gigantic like I used to because obviously when I played
it at oklahom State, we had a tiny, little arena
and I just remember like Kansas would come in and
it would look like did the.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Floor just shrink? How'd they get How the guys get
so big?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I got two more for you. Dave Revson joining US
Big Ten Network? Okay, Iowa, Okay, no more Brian Ferns. Right,
problem solved. They're gonna light up scoreboards or maybe not?
What the the like? Listen, the defense is amazing, the
punter is amazing. Will they'll be able to score offensive
touchdowns this year through the air?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well? The report from the first scrimmage wasn't great, which
much when you're alluding to it seems like Kate mcameric
did not have a great day. You know, I've been
saying they're a dark horse to make the college football
Playoff because of the top college football playoff contenders in
the Big Ten. I mean, the only one they play
is Ohio. Stay. You know, they don't play Penn State,
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they don't play Michigan, they don't play Oregon. They're going
to have a great defense. Tim Lester is someone who
I respect a lot. He was head coach of Western Michigan.
Those of us who are in Midwest have seen his
teams through the years. He's really good. I don't know.
I mean, I was discouraged when I saw the report
on what the scrimmage looked like the other day. You know,
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it seems like maybe came back in the Marrea. I
don't know whether he's just not healthy or what the
deal is. They did bring in a little bit of
help in terms of the receiver room. You know, maybe
that that improvement can can get them to a point
where they're reasonable offensively. You know, again, I don't want
to say one scrimmage dictates everything, but I was discouraged
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to see that because I do think like on paper,
they're going to be awesome on defense. The schedule's really favorable,
but they have to be significantly better offensively. Although you know,
last year it went ten and four, so you know,
and they were ten and three in the regular or
ten and two in the regular season, then lost the
Big Ten championship games. If you're ten and two in
the regular season, Doug like into Big Ten, you're in
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the conversation like last year's team would have been in
the conversation for making it to that twelve team playoff.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I know, I know, I don't think they would have
because I don't think anybody want to see that. But
uh okay, last one Nebraska, right, like they last time
the Big Ten expanded, Nebraska was supposed to bring with
it the football prominence and change how we looked at
the Big Ten West, right, and they just even brought
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Scott Frost back. Everyone thought that would work. That that
didn't work. They seem to kind of be figuring it
out at the end of last year and seem to
have the pieces they get Colorado.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
On their home soil upcoming in the year. What are
what are our thoughts here year two of this regime.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was actually spending a little time on them today
because we're heading out there. I'm going out there tomorrow night.
We'll be there for practice on Wednesday. I'm really optimistic
about Nebraska. I think the schedule really helps them, particularly
early on. They have five of their first six games
at home. It seems like Colorado's and a little bit
(20:19):
of disarray. So that's gonna be a big game in
Week two there between Nebraska and Colorado. Obviously, Colorado beat
them pretty handily last year and got off to that
really good start. I think Nebraska wins that game. They
pick up a ton of momentum. They have a lot back,
they were really good on defense. They've just got to
stop turning the ball over. I mean it was alarming.
They were minus seventy turnover ratio last year, had thirty
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one on the year. The big excitement is Dylan Riola,
who is considered one of the best quarterbacks in that class.
He comes from Nebraska Royalty. Donovan Roola won the Rivington
Trophy at Nebraska's uncle is on the staff there, so
you know that's part of what they're hanging their hat on.
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They bring a lot back and then they went into
the portal and upgraded and wide receiver and got a
little running back help as well. I'm really bullish on
this team. I mean, I don't think I'm college football
playoff bullish. I think it's a little bit too big
of a jump, but I'd be astonished. Doug if they
don't make a bowl game. And it's crazy when you
think about the Power Conference team with the longest bull
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drought is Nebraska. Seven years in a row without making
it to a bowl game. And this was I mean,
you know, making up to a bowl game. Was that
they went more than thirty years in a row making
the bowl every single year. So the ocean they've gone
seven years without making one is kind of unfathomablele I
can't imagine a scenario where they don't make one this year.
I think they'll be bowling and I think they'll be
(21:50):
a competitive, top half of the Big ten kind of team.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
All right, last one, I lied up. I do have
one more.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Feels like Oregon is the pick of the the new
teams to make the biggest kind of hay in the conference.
But are we selling USC short? Like I get that
they were disappointing last year, it is year three. They
were really really pretty good year one. And I know
(22:18):
you lose Caleb Williams, but they've recruited recently. Like, are
we sure that USC is not going to be a
contender in this thing?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, I'm not sure. I just think their schedules really hard.
I mean, you open with LSU. They've also played for
Daimon the non conference at the end of the year.
In conference, they've got Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State. I know
they don't play Ohio State, but still, I mean you
kind of look through the rest of that group, it's
a pretty tough schedule. And then defensively, I mean, they
(22:50):
just have so far to go. They were so bad
last year. They did get Dan Layn, who was the
defensive coordinator at UCLA. They made a huge jump in
their defense last year. They bring him across town. It's
not as if they got massive gains though in the portal.
So you know, to me, I guess the question mark
is is the defense good enough, particularly in the interior, Like,
(23:14):
if you're not good on the line of scrimmage on defense,
you're gonna struggle in the Big Ten. You're struggle in
any league, but I think particularly in the Big Ten.
So look, there's no doubt in my mind they'll score
a ton of points. I mean, you think about how
good USC's been through the years, the last two years,
or the first time they've got back to back teams
like forty or more points ever in the history of
the program. So they'll be great there. The question to
(23:35):
me is schedule and are they that much better on
defense that they can you know, at least make people
work to score points. That was really the issue last year.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
All right, So what's what's left in terms of the camps.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So let's see, I've got Nebraska. I'm taking a couple
often to take one of my daughters back to school.
And then I've got Michigan, Michigan States, Northwestern. So I've
got four left. I've seen eight and yeah, you know,
it's always you learn a ton. I mean, it's really
been great so far.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, we expect the Big Ten Basketball Tour and stop
at Fledgling. Maybe who knows, in the future Big Ten
basketball power. You do have Green Bay in the meantime,
I mean to be asking if we'd have time with Wisconsin.
I'm interested by what Luke Fickle does there. The league
is so vast. Michigan State, of course, you go back
six seven years ago, they were a power in this league.
(24:33):
You're gonna have a lot of fun. It's a lot
of work, I know, but you're up for it. Thanks
so much for doing us, Rev.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Speaking of people working hard, Dog, good luck with the
Phoenix I'll talk to you soon. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
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Speaker 4 (24:52):
Let's find out who? What's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Hey, what's annoying you today?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
The US winning the goal doesn't annoy me? But what
does annoy me is this exchange with Lebron James after.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
There's the Dream Team, Redeemed Team. What's this team? The Avengers?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
He says, it's the Avengers. My question to Lebron James
would be, what are they avenging? This is a team
that is supposed to win, that hasn't lost since what
two thousand and four? I'm trying to think of what
they are avenging? And then your next natural question is, well,
what were the Avengers avenging in movies? So I went
(25:43):
ahead and looked it up. Captain America clarifies the name
while speaking at the funeral for one of the one
of his dying comrades. Steve Rodgers explains that there's a
reason why the team is not called the Defenders or
the Protectors. They're called the Avengers. According to Kat, the
name is appropriate because they only act after a wrong
(26:04):
has been committed. They don't seek out justice, they react
after a wrong has been committed. And this is not
consistent with Lebron James calling this team the Avengers. I'm
just not going to accept it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
He means, though, that the Avengers is a collection of
the greatest superheroes on planet Earth, and he's not terribly
far off, like that was pretty cool to see when
they played Serbia five five MVPs on the court at
the same time, of course, four from playing for a
team USA. But I understand what you're saying. Lebron just
says tendency to annoy you. I get that as well.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
French. The French lost in that game, and then the
French blew it against the women.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I get total choke job.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I don't remember ever openly rooting for a USA team
more than I did yesterday. That was annoying, wasn't it.
How did it happen, you.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Bow, That's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I think pressure, you know, I think the pressure of
the moment sometimes playing at home. I also think that
the US team was just more talented and better. But
and part of it was they were playing so poorly
for so long, But most of it is that they
were just better, and then I think they couldn't you know,
(27:20):
They're just a possession of your possession there, a bad
shot here, a turnover there, and just kind of added
up and then you hit a three with your foot
on the line at the end of the game, much
like that Kevin Durant one against the Bucks in like
the second round of the playoffs when Kyrie was hurt
and Harden had the bad hamstring. There is another part
to it, but yes, the French had themselves a rough
(27:40):
day yesterday, real rough.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Day, Doug. During this segment last week, we talked about
the passing of Billy Bean, not the A's gum, but
Billy Bean, the first openly gay Major leaguer. Now he
did it after we retired, so there technically has never
been a major leaguer to come out of the closet
to the media. Ever, it's never happened. It's twenty twenty
(28:02):
four and we have yet to have one gay baseball
player come out. And I did the math, and there's
like an average of one gay ballplayer per clubhouse. One
for every twenty five men in our country are gay,
So that means one every clubhouse and no one has
come out, And you're asking yourself, why why would that be?
Why would a person not feel comfortable coming out in
(28:24):
a major league clubhouse? All star Red Sox player Jaren
Duran offered up a reason yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Durana two ninety six with runners in scoring position for
the year.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In case you didn't hear that, that's Jared Duran during
and at bat at Fenway calling a fan a fucking faggot.
Just imagine how comfortable you are using that word if
you use it to a paying customer at a home game.
Just imagine how comfortable you're using that word. So, of
(29:06):
course there was an apology statement released. I feel awful
knowing how many people I offended during tonight's game. I
use a truly horrific word when responding to a fan.
Blah blah blah, LGBT community blah blah blah. I'm a
role model. I guarantee that apology didn't come from him.
(29:26):
I guarantee he uses that all the time in the clubhouse,
and just yesterday I think he was told that that's
not something you're supposed to say out.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, yeah, that was not a good moment, but you're
you're right. I it's one of those. And look, we
can sit here and be only critical of baseball. But
I mean Kobe Bryant said the same word as well.
But yes, I mean to a Remember, they're paying customers.
That's a huge thing.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I learned that one. I learned that one the hard
way about paying insulting paying customers. When I was back at.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
The ESPN that that happened in Boston. In Boston, Oh,
I'm shocked. I'm shocked at that happened in Boston. So
uh Lebron James using Avengers, the US women for winning,
and the Jared Durant situation.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm gonna say the French plus I don't I don't
know what happened, but it seemed like, uh, Steph Curry's
wife was was brought to tears. You know, they're like
celebrating like some one of the great moments your family.
She got a baby with her. You know, they're out
there and somebody was They're just the fans were too much,
the people are too much, and you couldn't win either
of those home games in the Olympics, you had the
women down a bunch.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, the French are annoying. That's what easy, Dear French,
she's your annoying.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Because we can.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hey, Doug, remember when Pat McAfee was canceled for twenty
four hours because he called Caitlin Clark a bitch. Yes,
it was a horrible word. You should never use that
word when talking about a woman. It's awful. Never use
that word. So Asia Wilson, coming off of her gold
medal game against the front yesterday, one word.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
For Kolia Copper today that bait.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
She can get away with it because she can't. I
get it. I do know the Urban dictionary to it.
But it's like, really, that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It's because she can does it's.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Because she can. He just doesn't mean you should, but
you obviously can't. That's it for the end the Bonus Podcast.
She got the radio show every day three to five
Eastern noon to two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
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