August 20, 2024 • 31 mins
Doug riffs about the Brian Flores and Tua Tagovailoa situation. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take on Mike Gundy. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Jake Paul makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug Gotleeb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. So here's the thing. There's a couple of
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different stories in sports, and usually we get to like
a take, and then we get to what the Fox said,
and then we get to what's annoying Jason Stewart, and
we want to do all that, okay, but I want
to reflect on something I said yesterday, the sound we
played on the radio show yesterday and Brian Flora's reaction,
also what Jason and I were discussing before the show today.
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So we didn't have a pod yesterday. I had several
people reach out. We just we want to do it.
We want to do it right, okay, And we just
didn't have I didn't have I wasn't lined up as
much as I wanted to be. That's me being a
full disclosure. So we want to do this right. Let
me take you to what I said yesterday. And this
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is a coaching philosophy and a belief system that I have.
People ask all the time, what's your coaching must like? Honestly,
I hate the three seas things. But then when I
when I started thinking about it, I was like, oh,
three SE's actually work. So here's what I believe in.
I believe in culture. And culture is a very bland term.
I understand it. Maybe on a different show or a
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different pod we can get into deeper about it. But basically,
the culture culture of hard work, culture of together and
is culture of of doing what we say we're going
to do and then do it to the utmost of
our ability. And then you know, it's like I asked
our players, give me everything you got, then give me
a little bit more. That's the one hundred and ten
percent thing, is right. One hundred percent is what you
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think you haveving you one hundred ten percent is what
you really have, and it's really more one hundred percent.
And even then it's hard to get to that actra
one hundred percent of giving your complete effort.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We're all realistic about that.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So your culture is important. I think your conditioning is important.
You know, in sports and in life, almost never are
you ever going to be like fresh, rested, everything's perfect,
and now we get to go perform. You know, something
always goes wrong and the one thing that is usually
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the case is you're tired, whether you're physically tired from life,
emotionally tired from life, or you're tired because of the
week of activities, or you're tired because you didn't sleep well.
The anxiety of the moment got you to a place
to where you're you're physically tired. And the thing that
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I marvel at, for example, for Steph Curry, is that
he is in unbelievable physical and mental condition. And then
there's the last part of the seas, which is confidence.
If you don't believe in yourself, no one else is
going to believe in you. Literally, zero people will believe
in you. So yeah, you have to have that level
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of confidence. Yesterday we played on the radio show Sound
of Tua Tongue of Ailoa with Dan Levettart. I want
you to take a listen to it and then we'll
get into kind of the discussion that we had yesterday
and what's happened today. Here's Tua talking about his time
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with Brian Flores and the juxtaposition of that with Mike McDonald.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
To Mike McDaniel, to put it in simplest terms, if
you woke up every morning and I told you you
sucked at what you did, that you don't belong doing
what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this
guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right.
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And then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude,
you are the best fit for this, like you are accurate,
you are the best whatever you are, this you are that.
How would it make you feel listening to one or
the other? And then you hear it. You hear it
regardless of what it is, the good or the bad,
and you hear it more and more you start to
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actually believe that, I don't care who you are, you
could be the president of.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The United States.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You have a terrible person that's telling you things that
you don't want to hear or that you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Probably shouldn't be hearing.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You're going to start to believe that about yourself. And
it was basically been what two years of training that
out of not just me, but you know, a couple
of the guys as well that have been here since
my rookie year all the way to now.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So my reflect my part was that like this is
without any question the change in young athletes, and it's
also the issue with Belichick guys. Belichick guys act like
Bill Belichick now Bill, and whenever Brian Flores came to
join Bill, right, he wasn't with him for twenty years.
But remember this is Bill twenty years of success later
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where he could be completely honest. He also had the
perfect quarterback who had to Tom Brady. I don't know
if you guys saw this. He said at his Fanatics
event that when he first got to Michigan there were
seven quarterbacks ahead of him on the depth chart. He
had to earn his way up. So players are brought
up different, they're taught different, they're given different opportunities. Remember
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this is a TUA who has been beloved everywhere he's
been and has probably never heard that type of coaching before.
And Brian Floor has had no sort of track record,
especially with quarterbacks, to have these things. The other part
to it is, and this is a real thing. It
doesn't matter what you say, it matters how they receive
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that information.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But to me, this is why Flores failed. This is
why Flores was fired. I don't think a Tool was
the only guy, but Tool was the guy hand selected
by the front office to be the next Dan Marino
and This is how Brian Flores thought of him and
treated him, and he wasn't performing well because of it.
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Some guys you can excuse my language, motherfuck up and
down and they'll say I'll fucking show you right now
and they'll be better because of it. But you have
to know what you're getting into. You have to know
your players before you go all in like that. Flores
did not. So this morning, Jason and I are talking
on the phone, right Jay, and you said you thought
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that Flores should get out, get out ahead of it,
should talk about it at a press conference. My immediate
response was just let it go away. Let it go away.
If Flora's responds, then it gives it an extra day
or two of life, and it cements that that's who
you are. And your response was, what, Jay, But how
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did you think he should get out ahead of it?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think that there's a moment here. I thought he
had a moment. He had a moment to do it
this way, not do a press conference in refuting any
claims or even trying to massage claims, just own it
all together. Maybe there were exaggerations by Tua, but he says, look,
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I've done a lot of reflecting, and I really hate
that he feels that way. I hate that Tua feels
that I treated him that way. And I was sad
to hear what he had to say. I'm sorry, full apology,
like full ownership.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And when I heard that, Okay, when I heard that,
I was like, man, if he would do that, that
be unbelievable. That be unbelievable. Okay, So this is a
legit conversation we had. Then we get ready to do
the show and Brian Flores did have some proud press
conference and he said this.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
You know, specific to uh, you know, the comments that
were made by Tua. I just want to say, look,
I'm I'm I'm happy, genuinely happy, genuinely.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Genuinely happy for the success that Tool has had, and.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I really wish him nothing but the best. And you know,
I think, you know, player relationships are very important to me.
They I think that's kind of the foundation of coaching.
And I got into coaching because, you know, I was
impacted as a as a as a young guy by
my high school coach and my college coaching by going
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away to Pop Warner. I got into coaching because you know,
I want to make that same kind of impact, positive impact,
poor into young people, help and become you know, s
Ko says, all the time, the best versions of themselves
always looking to get better and involved. The only different
than as a coach, whether it's schematics or personnel or evaluations.
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I'm always looking to get better. I'm always looking for
dialogue in meetings with coaches, with players. You know, I
don't care where a good idea comes from. You guys
have heard me say that, And I'm open to getting better.
And that's always the you know, always my mindset. Look,
I've done a lot of reflecting and you know, on
the situation, reflecting on the situation and communication. You know,
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I think there's things that I could do better, for sure,
and I've grown in that way and I've tried to
apply to things that i could do better the things
that I've learned, you know, over.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
The last you know, two three years, but.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I would say over the long haul, I've had a
lot of great relationships over my twenty one year career
here in the league.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So he basically took what you took, what you suggested,
and I'm sure somebody suggested to him and he ran
with it. Again, I think it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.
And look, the reality is that you don't. Oftentimes you
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get your first job before you're really ready. You know,
no one's really ready. It's like being married or having kids, right,
You're never really ready. You think you're right like now
I'm right, now, I'm righty, But it's so different. You're
gonna make mistakes and the difference is like can you
own your mistakes in the moment or do you have
to wait until you're fire.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Before you own your mistakes?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But that that is eerie. How close to exactly what
you told me? Jason was exactly what he said. I
didn't see it coming. And this is what gets him
back into potentially being a head coach. It'll still be hard,
it'll still be hard, it'll still be hard. But again,
like this is why I like people who have been fired.
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You know, if you haven't been fired, it's like you
gotta And then, by the way, when you take some
time away and you've been fired, you get to reflect.
You don't reflect when you go from job to job
to job, job, you don't. If you have a relationship, relationship,
relationship relationship, you reflect some what they call it in psychology.
You gotta spend time with yourself. That appears to be
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what on the surface Brian Flores has done.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
Let's get to the Fox set and now say every day,
this time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast,
we play for you a previous version of a Fox
Sports Radio show or a Fox Sports One show. This
is This is Oh and Cowherd talking about Tua and
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Brian Flores.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
And this thing with Brian Flores, it's beyond obnoxious. It's cruel,
and it's essentially the opposite of the Sean McVeigh or
Kyle Shanahan Tree, the Demico Ryans, the Robert Salas, the
Kevin o'connells. They come out, they're collaborative, they get along
with people. They're pro player Belichick guys. And you know,
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Brian Flores probably watched Belichick, Dog Cuss Brady for years.
I mean, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman. People have come out,
even those who are favorable with Belichick and said I
can't believe what Tom put up with. And it's becoming
crystal clear. Sorry, Belichick fanboys and psycopants, it's becoming crystal clear.
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Is that Tom Brady and only Tom Brady elevated Belichick
and the entire staff.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that's bullshit. That's fucking complete and total bullshit. That's
complete bullshit. It's honestly one of the most disingenuous and
least true things Colin has ever said. Brady and only
Brady elevated Belichick. Now, look, I don't need to tell
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you I'm friends with Colin. But what friends do is
they call bullshit. That's what real friend does. He calls bullshit.
So let me call bullshit here. First of all, pretty
obvious he had Brady on. Brady works for Fox, Colin
like Brady's and but both these things can be true.
Brady can be awesome and elevate everybody around him, and
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Belichick can be a great coach. So I find that
to be unbelievably at best, disingenuous at where it's just
outright false. No one on Earth thinks he's not a
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spectacular football coach. Now, look, he was right in the
first part. As we've discussed radio show podcast. Here, the
issue with Flores and some of these other guys is
they walk into their new building as if they're Bill
Belichick walking into his building. But Bill Belichick's an unbelievable
football coach. Cam Newton couldn't throw football and they had
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an average season during the COVID year. Couldn't throw fucking football.
They won three games where he threw for less than
one hundred yards. So that guy's an unbelievable football coach,
not a great GM couldn't find the quarterback of the future.
It happens Don Shula end up. You know, obviously they
made the playoffs his last year, but they didn't do
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anything after Dan Reno was gone, you know, nothing, Obviously,
Dan he wrote out the entire Don Shula. Dan Schula
wrote out the entire Dan Reno thing. But it's not
like they had all spectacular years. You know, Bill Walsh
never coached average quarterbacks. He just didn't. Anybody who's replaced
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superstar quarterbacks with below average guys has suffered the fate
of it. You can't do it without a quarterback long term.
But that's bullshit from Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It just is not the.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Part early on where about Flores kind of emulating Bill Belichick.
We've discussed this, the part where Brady and only Brady
elevated that staff.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Everybody knows that's false, even Collin. And here's what's crazy.
If Bill Belichick worked for Fox and Tom Brady did not,
Colin would have the opposite opinion. This is Dan Patrick
talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
This is a phenomenon. Caitlin Clark is a phenomenon. And
if I said to any of these people who think
Caitlyn Clark is not the rookie of the year, I'd say,
who would you want to start your franchise with. Now,
I'm not going to put Asia Wilson in there. I'm
just saying between these two, Angel Reese is a wonderful player,
but she does not compare to what and who Caitlin
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Clark is when she's on the basketball floor.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Plain and simple.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
But we want to make it a debate, and I
think that that's just to get clicks. And look, Angel Reese,
there's nothing that she does where you go did you
see her? Other than she plays really really hard and
I liken her game to Moses Malone. Moses Malone was relentless.
So it's not that I don't appreciate who she is
or how she plays. There is no one, no one
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like Caitlin Clark in the history of the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm just going to tell you this. I haven't watched
the WNB enough to actually tell you that. I don't
think it's actually true, but I don't know it to
be true. I just there's you know, who she passed,
was pinchera or whatever? Who is at Old Dominion? Is
that I I used to say her first name. You know,
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there's been a lot of great me even Cynthia Cooper,
who has roasted Kaitlyn Clark. She was an unbelievable WNBA player.
But I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Enough about it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I do know that the idea that Angel Reese is
anywhere in the solar system of Kaitlyn Clark is so
fucking stupid. Like, first of all, she half her rebounds,
her own misses, and oh yeah, by the way, while
she helps you win, Caitlyn Clark makes everybody around you better.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Angel Reese is not. It's not particularly close. That part
we totally agree on.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Here's two pros and a cup of Joe talking about
Mike Gundhy and what he said publicly about his player's agents.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
There's no certifiction process, there's fact checking, there's no transparency
on what one's offering someone versus an other team, and
so these agents end up being like the scummiest, leaziest.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's just the it's the dumbest thing.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
And I feel bad for the college coaches because they
went from, like you know, dealing with a lot of
legitimacy in their league to now dealing with this portion
of it with a bunch of slappies who are out
there just making stuff up.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So coaches, I.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Don't feel like doing win sprints today. Coach, what what
do you mean? Hey, hey, look, boss, take it out
with my agent. Take it out with my representation. I'm
gonna be over here getting some water. I'm not doing
this workout. So those are real conversations that are happening now. Man,
you not to assume so jesus, I'm not playing in
this Bowl game. Fork up, pony up some more cash
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or that's your ass. Tell your agent to stop calling
me for money. That's crazy. I mean, that's as probably
as simple as simply put as you can can make it.
It totally is a turbulent moment and time for college
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major major college sports.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Again, there's different levels to it. Again, you have guys
having conversations on the radio and like, look LeVar, his
son is at Penn State and he helps run the
collective for Penn State. So he knows Brady of course,
great player at Notre Dame, very much tied in and
they both cover football and so they know a lot
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of this stuff. Here's the thing about the my Gundy thing,
and this is a frustrating thing from anyone's perspective. When
you agree to terms of a deal, do you call
a couple weeks later in try and sweeten that deal?
When you buy a house, all right, and a month
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later the housing market spikes up, you know, if you
sold the house, you're like, hey, I need another one
hundred thousand dollars to that house. Like, it doesn't work
that way. I don't believe that most of these guys
are the scummiest people on earth, though. I do think
that the go betweens, sometimes their agents, sometimes their parents,
sometimes their handlers or runners, those are the people that
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usually fuck every deal up.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They just do.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I can tell you that I've had one player who
I assumed we were getting, and I think the kid
wanted to play for us, but it was absolutely, unequivocally
the middleman who screwed it up. I had another player
who the middleman was was problematic, and that the second
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the middleman was removed from the situation, the kid's been unbelievable.
And then I have another one who has an agent,
and the agent has been incredible, and he's a real
legit agent, and he's been freaking really easy. I have
any issue, I bring it up with him. Checks in
once a week. How's my guy doing.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So I think the big thing for my Gundy is
it's a lot. Like Brady said, there's just no oversight.
So guys have run amuck and they keep they brag
about this money that they say they're getting, and then
their agent finds out about it says, well, you know,
Jimmy is getting such and such a Texas tech, So
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call my guy at Oklhoma State, or my guy is
gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like you committed to.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Playing here, you're playing here, here's the price.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We agreed to it. You get paid.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
As far as the I'm not running sprints, it's actually
really easy if you don't want to participate, we don't
have to give you another penny.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
We don't have to give you another penny.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
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Speaker 2 (21:59):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Hey, Doug, I know you liked this one. I know
our guy Jason McIntyre had some thoughts on this as well.
So I just want to read you what Anthony Edwards
told the Washington Journal, and I want you to tell
me what you're annoyed most about it. Anthony Edwards did
a I guess a some kind of a interview with
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the Wall Street Journal as I'm buying time to call
this up, and this is exactly what he says. I
didn't watch it. I didn't watch it back in the day,
so I can't speak on it. That's how he starts it,
and then he'll spend the next paragraph contradicting that statement.
I didn't watch it back in the day, so I
can't speak on it. They say it was tougher back
then than it is now. But I don't think anybody
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had skill back then. Michael Jordan was the only one
that really had skill, you know what I mean. So
that's why when they saw Kobe coming in the league,
they were like, oh my god, but now everybody has skill.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I didn't watch it. I mean, he wasn't old enough,
you know, wasn't old enough. He wasn't And this is
why what I don't do is, and I tell people
all time when we talk about Will Chamberlain, I don't
my opinion Will Chamberlain is completely biased based upon what
my dad told me. My dad was a walk on
in college and he became a high school coach, became
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a college coach, became like an AAU coach. But when
I share my opinion of Will Chamberlain, it's only based
upon his opinion because I wasn't alive. I didn't know.
So Anthony Edwards is making that kind of fatal mistake
of hey, I didn't watch it. Okay, they don't say shit,
it's okay to say.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't know. I don't know. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
One of the things Colin like says is okay to
say you're to be wrong to the audience. It's okay
to say I don't know as well completely, Okay, what
else is it doing you?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Steve Kerr, he did the DNC last night, you know,
and there the blowback that he got on social media
just speaks to like how much of a risk it
is to go on either of these platforms. It's a
massive risk to your career. But I applaud for Kerr
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for doing it. I mean, think about obviously he's made
enough money and he could probably not not coach or
not have to work again and he'd be fine. He
actually strikes me as that guy or get into politics,
So maybe the risk isn't that great for someone like Kerr.
But I definitely applaud people in this day and age
that go against the convention, go against conventional thought. He
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got up on stage and he totally took up for
Harris and had anti Trump stuff. As a member of
athletics and sports and everything, that's a massive risk to take,
so I give him credit for that. The annoying part
is the blowback. We should applaud people that go on
the other team, like Pete Boudha Judge, the former mayor
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in Indiana. I think he's the Secretary of Transportation now
he's given a masterclass on this. He goes on Fox
at least twice a week and he just carves up
the anchors with the Democratic agenda. And I think more
people should do that, more people should go on the
other team and spread the message to the people that
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don't really necessarily want to hear it. So anyways, Steve
Curry applaud you, and it's annoying that he got the
brushback that he'd done online.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, listen, I get it.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's like, you know, I even like the line. You know,
he said, what is it? We're gonna make Donald Trump
go to Night Night right? And I think the worst
part is when you when people and both sides do
it right, when they try to make things out to
be something so incredibly sinister. They're like the man was
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shot at It's like, dude, the night Night has nothing
to do with death, doesn't wish death upon anybody.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I'm with it, Like we just go so massively,
massively overboard, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Dumb, mad dog Russo I know you have a kind
of a soft spart in your heart. I think I did,
old man listen to him and so. But you know,
he's made the segment many times, and it's because he
says ridiculous things. Yes, I always give him credit for
having the passion to say things. I don't know if
he necessarily means it. So he went off on a
hawked to a girl recently.
Speaker 12 (26:49):
Nobody's gonna watch the Mets and the A's because she's
blowing out the first pitch. This idea that she's gonna
bring ye bulls to sex what not?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
John? Whatnot?
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Baseball fan is going to tune in after she throws
the pitch to watch the A's and the Mets on
a Thursday day in August.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
They're not doing that.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
So the idea that somehow, some way you expose your
team to a new audience is a bunch of nonsense.
If you're in Nashville, Tennessee, or if you're a country
music star and you haven't caught the baseball bug.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yet, you're not.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
Gonna catch it because she thlows out the first pitch
with a team that's thirty under five hundred in Oakland
and a team that's five hundred. When you're the Mets,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So I don't Maybe he's responding to Acaller there, so
maybe I'll give him a little bit of a doubt here,
Like I don't know who would make the client that
putting Hawk to as the person who throws out the
first pitch is going to bring in a new new
audience audience some people, that's just stupid. I will say this,
I think I give the Mets credit for being in tuned,
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like baseball has been has gotten the reputation of being
so out of touch and backwards, and they've been so
far behind on the social media thing that putting Hawk
Tua into the stadium to throw out the first pitch
shows me that somebody in their department is paying attention
to what's hot right now. And that's a good sign
for baseball, Like it needs more gen z paying attention
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to what works now.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I actually I agree with you right, Like it's funny,
it gets your attention. That's the idea of marketing. And
you know, I Mad Dog Russo's whole thing is like
I I love baseball, and like you're a senior citizen,
of course you love baseball. You're a New Yorker, of
course you love baseball. You're on MLB net or you
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were on MBNT. I don't know if he still is.
Of Course you love baseball and all that stuff is
like you're allowed to. But you got to break through
a new stuff. You gotta try some stuff, and not
all stuff you try succeeds, right, But yeah, I'm with you.
Even the rant which was anti hawk Tua girl ends
up being a positive because the Met's got attention that
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they previously wouldn't have.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
What else, No, that's it, so mad dog and then
Steve the blowbuck for Steve Kerr and Anthony Edwards not
commenting on something and then commenting on something.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I think Anthony Edwards is the most annoying. It's don't
talk about shit you don't know about and don't say
I don't know and then act like you know. That's
probably the worst. And for that reason, Ant Man, we
love you, but you're knowing.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 9 (29:40):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
The Jake Paul Mike Tyson thing is moving forward. I
have my thoughts on that, but Jake Paul did have
some good comments for a New York City crowd the
other day.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hey, New York, New York, New York.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
You're just like Mike Tyson. You were good twenty years ago.
Hook you New York, hook you Nomass, Democratic City.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, I guess like I mean, obviously, I think
everybody hopes Mike Tyson's old ass knocks him.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
The fuck out right. That would be amazing, It would
be amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And I think I would say ninety five percent of
the people think he's a complete doucheback, right, but when
even children probably pretty simple, Like the biggest thing is
he's quite obviously a juicer. Like you know, your body
doesn't change, doesn't look like that. Look at some of
his bodies, like come on in, like this is a movie,
this is real love. And then, while his boxing skills
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have improved, put him in the ring against a real
legit boxer of any repute and he'll get knocked the
fuck out. He's fighting UFC fighters and other YouTube eyes
or whatever instead of a legit boxer. Tyson obviously legit boxer,
but also senior citizen. So what are we doing here?
(31:09):
It's just a douchebag, I just And it's one of
those things where like even playing the soap, the sound
makes you kind of cringe. Because you're like, why am
I empowering this douchebag? Because you know he's trying to
create something. You know, he's trying to stoke up. It
doesn't matter if they hate me, they'll still watch. But
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I don't want to hate watch a boxing match. I
just won't watch.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's just stupid in general.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Why do we play that for you?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Because we can't.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
All Right, that's it for the In the Bonus podcast,
check at the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug Gotleeb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. So here's the thing. There's a couple of
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different stories in sports, and usually we get to like
a take, and then we get to what the Fox said,
and then we get to what's annoying Jason Stewart, and
we want to do all that, okay, but I want
to reflect on something I said yesterday, the sound we
played on the radio show yesterday and Brian Flora's reaction,
also what Jason and I were discussing before the show today.
(00:55):
So we didn't have a pod yesterday. I had several
people reach out. We just we want to do it.
We want to do it right, okay, And we just
didn't have I didn't have I wasn't lined up as
much as I wanted to be. That's me being a
full disclosure. So we want to do this right. Let
me take you to what I said yesterday. And this
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is a coaching philosophy and a belief system that I have.
People ask all the time, what's your coaching must like? Honestly,
I hate the three seas things. But then when I
when I started thinking about it, I was like, oh,
three SE's actually work. So here's what I believe in.
I believe in culture. And culture is a very bland term.
I understand it. Maybe on a different show or a
(01:38):
different pod we can get into deeper about it. But basically,
the culture culture of hard work, culture of together and
is culture of of doing what we say we're going
to do and then do it to the utmost of
our ability. And then you know, it's like I asked
our players, give me everything you got, then give me
a little bit more. That's the one hundred and ten
percent thing, is right. One hundred percent is what you
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think you haveving you one hundred ten percent is what
you really have, and it's really more one hundred percent.
And even then it's hard to get to that actra
one hundred percent of giving your complete effort.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We're all realistic about that.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So your culture is important. I think your conditioning is important.
You know, in sports and in life, almost never are
you ever going to be like fresh, rested, everything's perfect,
and now we get to go perform. You know, something
always goes wrong and the one thing that is usually
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the case is you're tired, whether you're physically tired from life,
emotionally tired from life, or you're tired because of the
week of activities, or you're tired because you didn't sleep well.
The anxiety of the moment got you to a place
to where you're you're physically tired. And the thing that
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I marvel at, for example, for Steph Curry, is that
he is in unbelievable physical and mental condition. And then
there's the last part of the seas, which is confidence.
If you don't believe in yourself, no one else is
going to believe in you. Literally, zero people will believe
in you. So yeah, you have to have that level
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of confidence. Yesterday we played on the radio show Sound
of Tua Tongue of Ailoa with Dan Levettart. I want
you to take a listen to it and then we'll
get into kind of the discussion that we had yesterday
and what's happened today. Here's Tua talking about his time
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with Brian Flores and the juxtaposition of that with Mike McDonald.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
To Mike McDaniel, to put it in simplest terms, if
you woke up every morning and I told you you
sucked at what you did, that you don't belong doing
what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this
guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right.
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And then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude,
you are the best fit for this, like you are accurate,
you are the best whatever you are, this you are that.
How would it make you feel listening to one or
the other? And then you hear it. You hear it
regardless of what it is, the good or the bad,
and you hear it more and more you start to
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actually believe that, I don't care who you are, you
could be the president of.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The United States.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You have a terrible person that's telling you things that
you don't want to hear or that you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Probably shouldn't be hearing.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You're going to start to believe that about yourself. And
it was basically been what two years of training that
out of not just me, but you know, a couple
of the guys as well that have been here since
my rookie year all the way to now.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So my reflect my part was that like this is
without any question the change in young athletes, and it's
also the issue with Belichick guys. Belichick guys act like
Bill Belichick now Bill, and whenever Brian Flores came to
join Bill, right, he wasn't with him for twenty years.
But remember this is Bill twenty years of success later
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where he could be completely honest. He also had the
perfect quarterback who had to Tom Brady. I don't know
if you guys saw this. He said at his Fanatics
event that when he first got to Michigan there were
seven quarterbacks ahead of him on the depth chart. He
had to earn his way up. So players are brought
up different, they're taught different, they're given different opportunities. Remember
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this is a TUA who has been beloved everywhere he's
been and has probably never heard that type of coaching before.
And Brian Floor has had no sort of track record,
especially with quarterbacks, to have these things. The other part
to it is, and this is a real thing. It
doesn't matter what you say, it matters how they receive
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that information.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But to me, this is why Flores failed. This is
why Flores was fired. I don't think a Tool was
the only guy, but Tool was the guy hand selected
by the front office to be the next Dan Marino
and This is how Brian Flores thought of him and
treated him, and he wasn't performing well because of it.
(06:28):
Some guys you can excuse my language, motherfuck up and
down and they'll say I'll fucking show you right now
and they'll be better because of it. But you have
to know what you're getting into. You have to know
your players before you go all in like that. Flores
did not. So this morning, Jason and I are talking
on the phone, right Jay, and you said you thought
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that Flores should get out, get out ahead of it,
should talk about it at a press conference. My immediate
response was just let it go away. Let it go away.
If Flora's responds, then it gives it an extra day
or two of life, and it cements that that's who
you are. And your response was, what, Jay, But how
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did you think he should get out ahead of it?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I think that there's a moment here. I thought he
had a moment. He had a moment to do it
this way, not do a press conference in refuting any
claims or even trying to massage claims, just own it
all together. Maybe there were exaggerations by Tua, but he says, look,
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I've done a lot of reflecting, and I really hate
that he feels that way. I hate that Tua feels
that I treated him that way. And I was sad
to hear what he had to say. I'm sorry, full apology,
like full ownership.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And when I heard that, Okay, when I heard that,
I was like, man, if he would do that, that
be unbelievable. That be unbelievable. Okay, So this is a
legit conversation we had. Then we get ready to do
the show and Brian Flores did have some proud press
conference and he said this.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
You know, specific to uh, you know, the comments that
were made by Tua. I just want to say, look,
I'm I'm I'm happy, genuinely happy, genuinely.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Genuinely happy for the success that Tool has had, and.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I really wish him nothing but the best. And you know,
I think, you know, player relationships are very important to me.
They I think that's kind of the foundation of coaching.
And I got into coaching because, you know, I was
impacted as a as a as a young guy by
my high school coach and my college coaching by going
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away to Pop Warner. I got into coaching because you know,
I want to make that same kind of impact, positive impact,
poor into young people, help and become you know, s
Ko says, all the time, the best versions of themselves
always looking to get better and involved. The only different
than as a coach, whether it's schematics or personnel or evaluations.
(09:11):
I'm always looking to get better. I'm always looking for
dialogue in meetings with coaches, with players. You know, I
don't care where a good idea comes from. You guys
have heard me say that, And I'm open to getting better.
And that's always the you know, always my mindset. Look,
I've done a lot of reflecting and you know, on
the situation, reflecting on the situation and communication. You know,
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I think there's things that I could do better, for sure,
and I've grown in that way and I've tried to
apply to things that i could do better the things
that I've learned, you know, over.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
The last you know, two three years, but.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I would say over the long haul, I've had a
lot of great relationships over my twenty one year career
here in the league.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So he basically took what you took, what you suggested,
and I'm sure somebody suggested to him and he ran
with it. Again, I think it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.
And look, the reality is that you don't. Oftentimes you
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get your first job before you're really ready. You know,
no one's really ready. It's like being married or having kids, right,
You're never really ready. You think you're right like now
I'm right, now, I'm righty, But it's so different. You're
gonna make mistakes and the difference is like can you
own your mistakes in the moment or do you have
to wait until you're fire.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Before you own your mistakes?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But that that is eerie. How close to exactly what
you told me? Jason was exactly what he said. I
didn't see it coming. And this is what gets him
back into potentially being a head coach. It'll still be hard,
it'll still be hard, it'll still be hard. But again,
like this is why I like people who have been fired.
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You know, if you haven't been fired, it's like you
gotta And then, by the way, when you take some
time away and you've been fired, you get to reflect.
You don't reflect when you go from job to job
to job, job, you don't. If you have a relationship, relationship,
relationship relationship, you reflect some what they call it in psychology.
You gotta spend time with yourself. That appears to be
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what on the surface Brian Flores has done.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
Let's get to the Fox set and now say every day,
this time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast,
we play for you a previous version of a Fox
Sports Radio show or a Fox Sports One show. This
is This is Oh and Cowherd talking about Tua and
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Brian Flores.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
And this thing with Brian Flores, it's beyond obnoxious. It's cruel,
and it's essentially the opposite of the Sean McVeigh or
Kyle Shanahan Tree, the Demico Ryans, the Robert Salas, the
Kevin o'connells. They come out, they're collaborative, they get along
with people. They're pro player Belichick guys. And you know,
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Brian Flores probably watched Belichick, Dog Cuss Brady for years.
I mean, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman. People have come out,
even those who are favorable with Belichick and said I
can't believe what Tom put up with. And it's becoming
crystal clear. Sorry, Belichick fanboys and psycopants, it's becoming crystal clear.
(12:48):
Is that Tom Brady and only Tom Brady elevated Belichick
and the entire staff.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that's bullshit. That's fucking complete and total bullshit. That's
complete bullshit. It's honestly one of the most disingenuous and
least true things Colin has ever said. Brady and only
Brady elevated Belichick. Now, look, I don't need to tell
(13:19):
you I'm friends with Colin. But what friends do is
they call bullshit. That's what real friend does. He calls bullshit.
So let me call bullshit here. First of all, pretty
obvious he had Brady on. Brady works for Fox, Colin
like Brady's and but both these things can be true.
Brady can be awesome and elevate everybody around him, and
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Belichick can be a great coach. So I find that
to be unbelievably at best, disingenuous at where it's just
outright false. No one on Earth thinks he's not a
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spectacular football coach. Now, look, he was right in the
first part. As we've discussed radio show podcast. Here, the
issue with Flores and some of these other guys is
they walk into their new building as if they're Bill
Belichick walking into his building. But Bill Belichick's an unbelievable
football coach. Cam Newton couldn't throw football and they had
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an average season during the COVID year. Couldn't throw fucking football.
They won three games where he threw for less than
one hundred yards. So that guy's an unbelievable football coach,
not a great GM couldn't find the quarterback of the future.
It happens Don Shula end up. You know, obviously they
made the playoffs his last year, but they didn't do
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anything after Dan Reno was gone, you know, nothing, Obviously,
Dan he wrote out the entire Don Shula. Dan Schula
wrote out the entire Dan Reno thing. But it's not
like they had all spectacular years. You know, Bill Walsh
never coached average quarterbacks. He just didn't. Anybody who's replaced
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superstar quarterbacks with below average guys has suffered the fate
of it. You can't do it without a quarterback long term.
But that's bullshit from Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It just is not the.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Part early on where about Flores kind of emulating Bill Belichick.
We've discussed this, the part where Brady and only Brady
elevated that staff.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Everybody knows that's false, even Collin. And here's what's crazy.
If Bill Belichick worked for Fox and Tom Brady did not,
Colin would have the opposite opinion. This is Dan Patrick
talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
This is a phenomenon. Caitlin Clark is a phenomenon. And
if I said to any of these people who think
Caitlyn Clark is not the rookie of the year, I'd say,
who would you want to start your franchise with. Now,
I'm not going to put Asia Wilson in there. I'm
just saying between these two, Angel Reese is a wonderful player,
but she does not compare to what and who Caitlin
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Clark is when she's on the basketball floor.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Plain and simple.
Speaker 9 (16:12):
But we want to make it a debate, and I
think that that's just to get clicks. And look, Angel Reese,
there's nothing that she does where you go did you
see her? Other than she plays really really hard and
I liken her game to Moses Malone. Moses Malone was relentless.
So it's not that I don't appreciate who she is
or how she plays. There is no one, no one
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like Caitlin Clark in the history of the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm just going to tell you this. I haven't watched
the WNB enough to actually tell you that. I don't
think it's actually true, but I don't know it to
be true. I just there's you know, who she passed,
was pinchera or whatever? Who is at Old Dominion? Is
that I I used to say her first name. You know,
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there's been a lot of great me even Cynthia Cooper,
who has roasted Kaitlyn Clark. She was an unbelievable WNBA player.
But I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Enough about it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I do know that the idea that Angel Reese is
anywhere in the solar system of Kaitlyn Clark is so
fucking stupid. Like, first of all, she half her rebounds,
her own misses, and oh yeah, by the way, while
she helps you win, Caitlyn Clark makes everybody around you better.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Angel Reese is not. It's not particularly close. That part
we totally agree on.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Here's two pros and a cup of Joe talking about
Mike Gundhy and what he said publicly about his player's agents.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
There's no certifiction process, there's fact checking, there's no transparency
on what one's offering someone versus an other team, and
so these agents end up being like the scummiest, leaziest.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's just the it's the dumbest thing.
Speaker 10 (17:59):
And I feel bad for the college coaches because they
went from, like you know, dealing with a lot of
legitimacy in their league to now dealing with this portion
of it with a bunch of slappies who are out
there just making stuff up.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So coaches, I.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Don't feel like doing win sprints today. Coach, what what
do you mean? Hey, hey, look, boss, take it out
with my agent. Take it out with my representation. I'm
gonna be over here getting some water. I'm not doing
this workout. So those are real conversations that are happening now. Man,
you not to assume so jesus, I'm not playing in
this Bowl game. Fork up, pony up some more cash
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or that's your ass. Tell your agent to stop calling
me for money. That's crazy. I mean, that's as probably
as simple as simply put as you can can make it.
It totally is a turbulent moment and time for college
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major major college sports.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Again, there's different levels to it. Again, you have guys
having conversations on the radio and like, look LeVar, his
son is at Penn State and he helps run the
collective for Penn State. So he knows Brady of course,
great player at Notre Dame, very much tied in and
they both cover football and so they know a lot
(19:29):
of this stuff. Here's the thing about the my Gundy thing,
and this is a frustrating thing from anyone's perspective. When
you agree to terms of a deal, do you call
a couple weeks later in try and sweeten that deal?
When you buy a house, all right, and a month
(19:51):
later the housing market spikes up, you know, if you
sold the house, you're like, hey, I need another one
hundred thousand dollars to that house. Like, it doesn't work
that way. I don't believe that most of these guys
are the scummiest people on earth, though. I do think
that the go betweens, sometimes their agents, sometimes their parents,
sometimes their handlers or runners, those are the people that
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usually fuck every deal up.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They just do.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I can tell you that I've had one player who
I assumed we were getting, and I think the kid
wanted to play for us, but it was absolutely, unequivocally
the middleman who screwed it up. I had another player
who the middleman was was problematic, and that the second
(20:43):
the middleman was removed from the situation, the kid's been unbelievable.
And then I have another one who has an agent,
and the agent has been incredible, and he's a real
legit agent, and he's been freaking really easy. I have
any issue, I bring it up with him. Checks in
once a week. How's my guy doing.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So I think the big thing for my Gundy is
it's a lot. Like Brady said, there's just no oversight.
So guys have run amuck and they keep they brag
about this money that they say they're getting, and then
their agent finds out about it says, well, you know,
Jimmy is getting such and such a Texas tech, So
(21:24):
call my guy at Oklhoma State, or my guy is
gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like you committed to.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Playing here, you're playing here, here's the price.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We agreed to it. You get paid.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
As far as the I'm not running sprints, it's actually
really easy if you don't want to participate, we don't
have to give you another penny.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
We don't have to give you another penny.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Hey, Doug, I know you liked this one. I know
our guy Jason McIntyre had some thoughts on this as well.
So I just want to read you what Anthony Edwards
told the Washington Journal, and I want you to tell
me what you're annoyed most about it. Anthony Edwards did
a I guess a some kind of a interview with
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the Wall Street Journal as I'm buying time to call
this up, and this is exactly what he says. I
didn't watch it. I didn't watch it back in the day,
so I can't speak on it. That's how he starts it,
and then he'll spend the next paragraph contradicting that statement.
I didn't watch it back in the day, so I
can't speak on it. They say it was tougher back
then than it is now. But I don't think anybody
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had skill back then. Michael Jordan was the only one
that really had skill, you know what I mean. So
that's why when they saw Kobe coming in the league,
they were like, oh my god, but now everybody has skill.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I didn't watch it. I mean, he wasn't old enough,
you know, wasn't old enough. He wasn't And this is
why what I don't do is, and I tell people
all time when we talk about Will Chamberlain, I don't
my opinion Will Chamberlain is completely biased based upon what
my dad told me. My dad was a walk on
in college and he became a high school coach, became
(23:37):
a college coach, became like an AAU coach. But when
I share my opinion of Will Chamberlain, it's only based
upon his opinion because I wasn't alive. I didn't know.
So Anthony Edwards is making that kind of fatal mistake
of hey, I didn't watch it. Okay, they don't say shit,
it's okay to say.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't know. I don't know. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
One of the things Colin like says is okay to
say you're to be wrong to the audience. It's okay
to say I don't know as well completely, Okay, what
else is it doing you?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Steve Kerr, he did the DNC last night, you know,
and there the blowback that he got on social media
just speaks to like how much of a risk it
is to go on either of these platforms. It's a
massive risk to your career. But I applaud for Kerr
(24:34):
for doing it. I mean, think about obviously he's made
enough money and he could probably not not coach or
not have to work again and he'd be fine. He
actually strikes me as that guy or get into politics,
So maybe the risk isn't that great for someone like Kerr.
But I definitely applaud people in this day and age
that go against the convention, go against conventional thought. He
(25:00):
got up on stage and he totally took up for
Harris and had anti Trump stuff. As a member of
athletics and sports and everything, that's a massive risk to take,
so I give him credit for that. The annoying part
is the blowback. We should applaud people that go on
the other team, like Pete Boudha Judge, the former mayor
(25:22):
in Indiana. I think he's the Secretary of Transportation now
he's given a masterclass on this. He goes on Fox
at least twice a week and he just carves up
the anchors with the Democratic agenda. And I think more
people should do that, more people should go on the
other team and spread the message to the people that
(25:42):
don't really necessarily want to hear it. So anyways, Steve
Curry applaud you, and it's annoying that he got the
brushback that he'd done online.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, listen, I get it.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's like, you know, I even like the line. You know,
he said, what is it? We're gonna make Donald Trump
go to Night Night right? And I think the worst
part is when you when people and both sides do
it right, when they try to make things out to
be something so incredibly sinister. They're like the man was
(26:15):
shot at It's like, dude, the night Night has nothing
to do with death, doesn't wish death upon anybody.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I'm with it, Like we just go so massively,
massively overboard, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Dumb, mad dog Russo I know you have a kind
of a soft spart in your heart. I think I did,
old man listen to him and so. But you know,
he's made the segment many times, and it's because he
says ridiculous things. Yes, I always give him credit for
having the passion to say things. I don't know if
he necessarily means it. So he went off on a
hawked to a girl recently.
Speaker 12 (26:49):
Nobody's gonna watch the Mets and the A's because she's
blowing out the first pitch. This idea that she's gonna
bring ye bulls to sex what not?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
John? Whatnot?
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Baseball fan is going to tune in after she throws
the pitch to watch the A's and the Mets on
a Thursday day in August.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
They're not doing that.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
So the idea that somehow, some way you expose your
team to a new audience is a bunch of nonsense.
If you're in Nashville, Tennessee, or if you're a country
music star and you haven't caught the baseball bug.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yet, you're not.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
Gonna catch it because she thlows out the first pitch
with a team that's thirty under five hundred in Oakland
and a team that's five hundred. When you're the Mets,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So I don't Maybe he's responding to Acaller there, so
maybe I'll give him a little bit of a doubt here,
Like I don't know who would make the client that
putting Hawk to as the person who throws out the
first pitch is going to bring in a new new
audience audience some people, that's just stupid. I will say this,
I think I give the Mets credit for being in tuned,
(27:54):
like baseball has been has gotten the reputation of being
so out of touch and backwards, and they've been so
far behind on the social media thing that putting Hawk
Tua into the stadium to throw out the first pitch
shows me that somebody in their department is paying attention
to what's hot right now. And that's a good sign
for baseball, Like it needs more gen z paying attention
(28:17):
to what works now.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I actually I agree with you right, Like it's funny,
it gets your attention. That's the idea of marketing. And
you know, I Mad Dog Russo's whole thing is like
I I love baseball, and like you're a senior citizen,
of course you love baseball. You're a New Yorker, of
course you love baseball. You're on MLB net or you
(28:41):
were on MBNT. I don't know if he still is.
Of Course you love baseball and all that stuff is
like you're allowed to. But you got to break through
a new stuff. You gotta try some stuff, and not
all stuff you try succeeds, right, But yeah, I'm with you.
Even the rant which was anti hawk Tua girl ends
up being a positive because the Met's got attention that
(29:03):
they previously wouldn't have.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
What else, No, that's it, so mad dog and then
Steve the blowbuck for Steve Kerr and Anthony Edwards not
commenting on something and then commenting on something.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I think Anthony Edwards is the most annoying. It's don't
talk about shit you don't know about and don't say
I don't know and then act like you know. That's
probably the worst. And for that reason, Ant Man, we
love you, but you're knowing.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 9 (29:40):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
The Jake Paul Mike Tyson thing is moving forward. I
have my thoughts on that, but Jake Paul did have
some good comments for a New York City crowd the
other day.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Hey, New York, New York, New York.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
You're just like Mike Tyson. You were good twenty years ago.
Hook you New York, hook you Nomass, Democratic City.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, I guess like I mean, obviously, I think
everybody hopes Mike Tyson's old ass knocks him.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
The fuck out right. That would be amazing, It would
be amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And I think I would say ninety five percent of
the people think he's a complete doucheback, right, but when
even children probably pretty simple, Like the biggest thing is
he's quite obviously a juicer. Like you know, your body
doesn't change, doesn't look like that. Look at some of
his bodies, like come on in, like this is a movie,
this is real love. And then, while his boxing skills
(30:48):
have improved, put him in the ring against a real
legit boxer of any repute and he'll get knocked the
fuck out. He's fighting UFC fighters and other YouTube eyes
or whatever instead of a legit boxer. Tyson obviously legit boxer,
but also senior citizen. So what are we doing here?
(31:09):
It's just a douchebag, I just And it's one of
those things where like even playing the soap, the sound
makes you kind of cringe. Because you're like, why am
I empowering this douchebag? Because you know he's trying to
create something. You know, he's trying to stoke up. It
doesn't matter if they hate me, they'll still watch. But
(31:31):
I don't want to hate watch a boxing match. I
just won't watch.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's just stupid in general.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Why do we play that for you?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Because we can't.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
All Right, that's it for the In the Bonus podcast,
check at the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
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