August 29, 2024 • 34 mins
Doug welcomes FSR host Bernie Fratto onto the pod to get his unique perspective on the Michigan sign-stealing scandal and the Connor Stalions documentary. Kelley Ford joins to give his predictions for the first official weekend of college football. Plus, Doug chooses from deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So we call it because we can. So that's a
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and we have really good stuff today. He's those of
the Bernie Fratto Show on Fox Sports Radio, worked in
Detroit market for many years. He has ties to the
Michigan program and I want to get his thoughts in
the Connor Stallions documentary on Netflix. Bernie would would what
are your thoughts coming out of the dock?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So let me start here? The actress slowly. Tomlin once said,
I always wanted to be some I just wish I'd
been more specific. When this story broke last October, of
course I reached out to my peeps. I've maintained all
my contacts, and for me, the story angle was not
so much what had taken place. You know, it's cheating
in college football is rampant. But who is Connor Stallions?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Who is this guy? Is he some.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Wacko wanna be groupie? How did he find his way
into the average power? You just don't do that. So
I thought the character development regarding Connor Stallions was superb.
This is a guy who is very aeradite, brilliant, intellectual,
very aspirational. You don't just end up at West Point.
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He not only got into West Point, he flourished and
during his time there contributed to the football team. I
love the side story about he walked into coach Ken's
office and found himself a job and while he was
there making his contributions, as it were, maybe did well.
Then he goes to the Marine Corps and flourishes there.
These things just don't happen. Now let me let me
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digress for just a second. The second wonder was, Okay,
is this guy what we call in Michigan and Walmart
Wolverine meaning my mom went to you were City, Michigan.
There's lots of people in Michigan that think they went there,
that wish they went there. They hate Michigan State and
they act like they went there. And it's an eneugh
Monde of Michigan fans. But growing up, this kid's three
years old, he's got Michigan gear on. His parents teach
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him to love Michigan. It's a learned thing. Obviously, this
is not new. It's rampant in Michigan. You see it
right and left, and forty nine out of fifty people
that grew up this way become Walmart Wolverinees. This guy
was truly unique and indifferent, went to lay even Wait,
the story grabbed me because he went to Lake ori
And High School, a football powerhouse there in northeast Detroit.
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My son's high school team played them and beat them.
But I digress. So you put those two things together
and the story angle for me that I thought they
did a brilliant job of teaching us the context down
the subtext of who he is, where do they come from,
how did this happen, and where do we go from here?
I thought that part of the documentary was superb.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, do you think that Connor Stallions acted under the
guidance of Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That's a very loaded question, and given the limits of
that question, there's no way to ever know. Do I
think Harball didn't know anything? That's ridiculous. If you've ever
been around Jim Harball, he's as megilal moniacle as it
can be. And he's not a saint. Okay, he's not
he's not a bad guy, but he's not a saint,
so for him not to know anything doesn't pass the
laugh test. How about when Connor's Stallions is granted the
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game ball against Iowan twenty twenty two and he says,
don't don't get the big head.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Connor.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, you're on staff, you're a paid staff member at Michigan,
and you're granted a game ball and Marball doesn't know
everything about you not buying it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, what do you think the punishment.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Should be, Well, it's already been administered. This is a
story that continues to have legs. Michigan cut deal with
the Big Ten. That's why Jim Harbaugh would agree to
the suspension. And then the other adjudicating oversight committee is
the NCAA and they just issued their allegation, so Michigan State,
Michigan will have about one hundred days to respond. This
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is going to extend into the spring, from people off
talk to the worst thing that could possibly happen. You
might see Sharon Moore get a game suspension, a game
or two next year, slap on the risks, maybe recruiting penalty.
There isn't going to be anything retroactive. There isn't going
to be an asterisk. There isn't going to be games vacated,
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the National Championship vacated, the big none of that stuff.
But that doesn't answer your question as to what I
think the punishment should be. The punishment should be exactly
what I think they're doing, because this has become a
bit of a tempest in a teapot. Lots of schools
do this. I'm not excusing the behavior. What's happened, though, Doug,
is that Michigan did it so much better than everybody else.
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Toward the end of the documentary, the charts and grafts
that he put together and the credible anular way that
Connor Stallions went about approaching this was so far beyond anything. Okay,
you played college basketball at a high level. There's all
kinds of study. I played division on college baseball. You
try to prepare for your team, your oppony, try to
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prepare for your season. But the bottom line is this,
who has ever gone to that level of preparedness? Almost
like General Patton in World War Two? There in lives
of the story at Connor Stallion's character, and of course
the name is right out of Central casting, it's Michigan.
People love to hate Michigan, and you add it all
up and you've got a statement, I hate the perfect storm.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, what about what about last year's national championship? Do
you think that's tarnished?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think that's a false narrative, Doug, because football is
one of the transers. As you know, it's a game
of attrition, and Michigan's so dominated in the interior lines
everybody else. If you watch the film I Got thirteen
NFL PL and you know I was dubious of Michigan
and not believing it within a national championship. Then they
mo through Penn State, Ohio State, Iowa, Alabama, and Washington
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in those last five games. I think they didn't even
have counter stallions. They won the game by blocking and tackling.
So I don't believe that the National Championship is tainted.
And I think if you were to peel back the
onion and God could come down and look inside the
belly and the beast of every major program in all
sports going back eighty years, you would find cheating is
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beyond rampant.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, I get it, And the question is not is
it ramper or is it not rampant. The question is
when you get caught, what is the level of punishment there?
You know, right, It's like it's like we can all
sit here and go it's not fair when we get
pulled over for speeding because everybody's speeding. But the fact
is when you speed, you still get a ticket, still
have to pay off that ticket. What should the punishment be?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, there were multiple Okay, so I'm going to defer
to what happened visav the Big Ten's decisions and the
NCAA's decisions. Parbot was what suspended what five games? Six games?
Last year? You don't have your head coach on the
sidelines at Penn State, you don't even find out about it,
to the Plane Lands and Happy Valley, you didn't have
for the Ohio State game, et cetera, et cetera. That
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was punishment. They tried to do some things to Michigan,
so they threw Connor Stallions under the bus. I think
there was a zoom call amongst Big Ten coaches that
wanted harball fired so across the board it became death
by a thousand cuts. But none of them really stuck
the fact that we're having this conversation today, the fact
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that there's a Netflix special, the fact that Connor Stallions
will be a household name in the lexicon of college
football for the next one hundred years, and everybody knows why,
and it's all in. The pejorative is also punishment, So
when you add it all up, it's not one hundred
percent of adjudicated. Something will happen next spring, but the'll
amount to a slap on the wrist. Answer your question directly,
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I'm going to defer the NCAA and the Big ten.
I think they handle it in a way that they
wanted to handle it, and there was punishment. There was
no death penalty. There's never going to be that again.
Nobody got fired, were fines, recruiting, all that stuff. Nothing
that egregious. But when you add it all up, it's
a scar and it does not cast Michigan in a
favorable way. And I think that in itself becomes, by
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and large the punishment.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bernie, you are the best man. A lot. I agree
with them. There a couple of things I don't, but
in the meantime, really really good insight. Thanks much for
joining us here on the pod.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Thank you, and I just want to put one thing
on the record that I don't I honestly don't subscribe
to the methods of Michigan used, but I'm not going
to play God. Have a good day, guys.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
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Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, let's bring in Kelly Ford. K Ford Ratings
is the Twitter handle to fall to follow.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You'd also go online Kford ridings dot com. As we
had kind of you know, we had a low week zero.
Now we have week one kicking off tonight. Kelly, give
me a predictive analysis on Colorado football.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Colorado Football, Doug is a really interesting team. They have
gotten a lot better my numbers, which suggests since Dion
Coach Prime got too bolder. This program was number one
hundred and twenty five out of one hundred and thirty
one at the time FBS teams in twenty twenty two.
Coach Prime comes in in twenty twenty three, ends the
year number seventy two. This year, I'm projecting number forty
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three for the Buffs in.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
My predicted model.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
I still think six and six, given the schedule they're playing,
is the most likely record. But just going bowling at
Colorado in a vacuum should, in my opinion, be considered
a success. Now will it actually be considered a success?
Probably not, because of the amount of height that's been
built up around that program and coach Prime and hit players.
I've done some of that building themselves, so they can't
point too much blame externally. But I do think this
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game tonight against North Dakota State is going to be
very interesting. North Dakota State's a top five team at
the SCS level, but Colorado's at home. I got him
with a seventy two percent win expectancy here. I think
the buff offense is going to be really good this year.
The defense is the area we need to see improvement
if this team's going to achieve their goals of you know,
winn an eight or more games.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Kelly Ford. Okay, so, Kelly, North Dakota State,
what do they have coming back? You know, like with
with Colorado, they've been in the portal so much that
we know they have quarterback back. We know you have
one star player back, but there's a lot of new faces.
What about the Division two level, what's that look like.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Yeah, So if I look at my North Dakota State
projections for this year, like I said, this is the
top three team in FCS. South Dakota State, they're big rivals,
certainly coming off a great year last year's projecting right
now to be the favorite at the FCS level. But
for North Dakota State, and granted Doug, my FCS model,
I call it FCS light because it's not quite as
comprehensive and all encompassing as the FBS, But we look
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at either side of the ball here, and for North
Dakota State, I mean, I think this is a top
two maybe even the best offense in the country. Montana
State might have something to say about that, But at
the SDS level, I think North Dakota State on offense
is going to be as good as they come, and
the defense is certainly going to be top ten, maybe
pushing top five. So this North Dakota State team, they're
not to the level of South Dakota State probably, but
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outside of that, they are going to be among the
favorites to win the SDS National championship this year, and
I do expect them with all summer to prepare, I
do expect the Bison to push Colorado tonight and make
it a really compelling game.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, Kelly, let's get to some of the other
games are going to take place over the weekend starting tonight.
In the case of course, going into the weekend. In
terms of big name schools tonight, Colorado is at the forefront,
but there's also North Carolina taking on Minnesota. You know,
Mac Brown, last year was to be the year at
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North Carolina. It was good, but they always kick it
off usually with South Carolina in this stretch, and then
of course Minnesota. Now you feel like they're going to
get buried deeper and deeper down the Big Ten with
the expanse of that league. What's your what do your
numbers say on Minnesota and North Carolina today?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
I'm real excited about this one, Doug. I've got it
as a fifty to fifty game, literally a fifty percent
win expectancy for each of these teams. I do have
North Carolina as the slightly better power rated team, coming
in at number forty two, but because the game is
in Minnesota, they're going to get that home field advantage.
I've got Minnesota number fifty two in the country, but
it's fifty to fifty for me. You know, if we
look at either side of the ball here, I probably
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like North Carolina's defense a little bit to have the
advantage on that side. The other side, the North Carolina
offense versus Minnesota defense, that's really really close and it's
going to be tight.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But you're right these two teams.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
North Carolina probably has some aspirations to maybe contend for
a spot in Charlotte. I've kind of got them as
a dark horse to have a chance, certainly not among
the favorite. And then from Minnesota, you're right. I mean,
with the expanded big pen, you're getting pushed down, you're
getting buried kind of in the middle of the conference.
My numbers right now are projecting just three wins three
and six as the most likely from Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
But this opening game of the season.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
For both these teams should be really exciting. I've got
a seven point nine out of ten on my watchability scores.
That's what I've got for this game. It is the
seventh best game of Week one by my watchability.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, tomorrow, you've got Oklahoma. Take it on Temple. They're
a forty two point favorite. A new regime of Michigan
State they're a fourteen point favorite. Wisconsin's a twenty four
point favorite at home against Western Michigan. The one that
jumps out to me is TCU, who last year was
so disappointing coming off the National Championship game, going to
new ACC team Stanford on the road on a Friday night.
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What do we expect from TCU a year and a
half roof and then playing for national championship.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I've got TCU number thirty in the power ratings.
Coming into this year, they were only number thirteen and
twenty t twenty two. There was a lot of close
games that TCU won that year. They certainly deserved their
place in the playoff, and then they won that semi
final against Michigan in a great game. So don't take
anything away from them, but from a power rating standpoint,
that TCU team even two years ago was not quite
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you know, a top five or ten team in terms
of the model's view. I've got number thirty this year.
We've got a top thirty offense.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You know, the defense is.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Hugging around number fifty but Stanford is not a very
good football team. I expect them to be improved from
a year ago where they finished number one hundred and eight,
which is the worst Stanford has been in my model
in the CFT era. But I've got TCU with a
seventy five percent win expectancy. Even though the horn Frogs
are going on the road, playing on a Friday night,
as you mentioned, but I really like this TCU offense
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against a Stanford defense that I have hovering around number
one hundred. I think that's going to be the difference
in this game. I'm just not sure Stanford's going to
be able to get enough stop. But TCU seventy five
percent win expectancy, and I've got this team, you know, looking.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
At seven wins.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Eight wins maybe is the most likely record. So TCU
certainly is going to be looking for a bounce back
to get a little bit closer to where they were
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Let's get a couple from this Saturday, Miami taking on Florida.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
What do you think Miami Florida is another really really
good game. My numbers right now are leaning towards the Gators,
and you can chop that up to really the home
field advantage that they're going to have because I do
have Miami as the slightly better team, but having to
go on the road to their art or to a
rival during the middle of the day, it's going to
be a hot one there in Gainesville. I've got a
fifty five percent win expectancy for Florida. I like both
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the offenses in this game. I think they're going to
have the advantage, But to me, it just comes down
to this game's in the swamp. Also, Florida knows how
important this game is. It's important for Miami as well.
But with Florida so many big games, difficult games on
their schedule, it's almost like the Gators can't afford to
lose a game like this one if they even want
to go bowling this year, which of course is a
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bare minimum expectation in Gainsville. But that schedule is so difficult.
I think a lot of pressure is on Florida. Mario
christ Ball's got his own pressure, right, because people are
talking about the CFP for the Hurricanes this year, so
this game has que. It's got a nine point three
on my watchability Scores, which makes it a top five
game of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Notre Dame taking on Tech's A and M. This one
in College station Ags are a three point home favorite.
What are they about Marcus Freeman's team and their ability
to come in and get a road win.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
I like Notre Dame this year, and I've got this
game with a nine point eight watchability score. It's the
number one game of Week one, and I actually would
lean with I would take the point with Notre Dame
here because I've got this as a fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Game and there's a lot of unknowns.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
There's a lot of storylines here, right met Mike Elko
coming over from Duke head coach at A and M
now going up against his former quarterback at Duke who's
now at Notre Dame. And Riley Leonard. So there's a
lot to like about this game. There's a ton of storylines.
Both of these teams in the top fifteen for me
in the preseason, all four of these units ranking in
the top twenty nationally. This is a very very high
profile game and it's probably more important, I would say,
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for Notre Dame than A and M. Because A and
M got this SDC schedule to play.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
They can collect big wins.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
If you look at Notre Dame schedule, especially after the
Florida State lost last week against Georgia Tech, there are
only two games on the irishis schedule in which my
numbers right now projected to be a one score game.
There's just not a lot of meat on the Notre
Dame schedule, which we are not used to saying. Typically
the Irish have a very difficult schedule weekend or year
in and year out.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
This year is not so much so.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
If Notre Dame gets past this one here at A
and M, which is a big, big if and a
big test, they are likely to be undefeated late into
the year and certainly positioning themselves well for a spot
in this expanded twelve team field.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's the one and only Kelly Ford. He joins us
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Foxford Trade. All right,
that was your most watchable game of the weekend. Probably
your second most watchable game is Georgia taken on Clemson
in Atlanta. Clemson is interesting, right, didn't play the portal
Georgia obviously back to back national titles up until you
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know last year, and you know they stump Florida State
out in the bowl game but don't get to the
national semi final. What do you think about Clemson Georgia
this weekend?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
This is a top five game for me in the
Week one slate. Certainly it's got a nine point zero
on the watchability score. The only reason it's not higher
is because my numbers actually have an eighty five percent
win expectancy for Georgia in this game. The Bulldogs are
a really, really good football team. They're number one in
my power ratings by four points. That's a massive gap
between Georgia and number two Ohio State. Right now, my
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model would make Georgia a four point favored against the
Buckeyes on a neutral field.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Clemson's a top fifteen team.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
They are now, by my numbers, the favorite in the
ACC now that Florida State has stumbled within conference play.
But this is going to be a huge task for
the Tigers, especially when the model's doing this as a
neutral site game. We could have a debate about that
because it is in Atlanta, so it's not Napens, but.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
It's in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I think Georgia is going to get a little bit
of home field advantage here that the model's not accounting
for what helps Clemson is that this is Week one,
and as I always talk about, you know, the longer
you have to prepare for a game, and the data
supports this, the more it favors the underdog in that game.
So Clemson has had all summer to game plan, scheme
and prepare for this. Now Georgia has two, but Clemson's
had all summer.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I expect then if Georgia.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Does have a weakness, which I'm not convinced they do.
If they do, you've got to trust that Dabbo and
his staff I've tried to identify that and look to
exploit it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Here.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I would advise Clemson van is saying, don't go well,
don't get two down on yourselves or on the season,
because you still, even if you lose this game, are
likely going to be coming out of this week the
favorite in the ACC by my model, assuming you don't
just absolutely get your doors blown off, which I don't
think will happen. I think George is going to wear
down Clemson over the course of the game and get
a win, probably.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Comfortably in the end.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
But I don't expect Clemson to be blown out and
this be over by halftime.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Kelly, You're awesome man. Look forward to the games this weekend.
We'll talk next week. Thanks so much for joining us
in Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Can't wait. Doug really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
Let's get to the Fox says and now every day,
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Ready to play. For your portion of a previous show
on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One, here's Dan Patrick.
He had exchange with Jason Garrett about the Patriots decision
to go with Jacoby Brissett at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Give me that philosophy.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Do you think with girod Mayo, rookie coach, going with
a little more experienced quarterback instead of his rookie quarterback.
You know, I agree with the decision. I keep thinking
back of what Andy Reid did in Kansas City with
Patrick Mahomes and just the idea that you draft the
guy high. You know he's going to be your quarterback
of the future. But in Kansas City they had Alex Smith.
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Alex is going to play this year. Patrick you're going
to learn, and I think that's probably going to be
a similar situation for Drake May in New England. And
Jacoby Brissett's an accomplished player, He's played a lot of football.
He'll do a good job for them. I don't think
they're a great team right now. I don't think the
environment is great, so you'd probably rather have a veteran
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guy who can handle that the ups and downs of it,
maybe a little bit better than a rookie. The different
situations are what they are. I think it makes sense
for Jade Daniels to play and Whyington and for Caleb
Williams to play in Chicago. But you know they have Jakobe.
They did that on purpose. Their team isn't necessarily great,
why not let him wait. He hasn't played as much
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football as Jayden Daniels did in college, so maybe he's
a little less experienced.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I don't mind this route at all.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I don't mind it either. I think he gives
them a little bit more time to develop, a little
bit more time to wait. I think Jason said a
lot of the things that we've been thinking, maybe in
a little bit more diplomatic fashion, but I just honestly
kind of agreat. Maybe it's because I agree with him,
but I thought there was some much better tact than
the way we've said it. Here's Brady Quinn talking about
the expanded playoffs in college football.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
The expanded playoffs, it's going to allow for more teams
in October November to be played more meaningful games because
there's gona be more chances for teams to get it.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Take for example, Penn State.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Penn State has not been to the college football Playoff, Lvar.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
You brought it up yesterday.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
They probably should have went when they won the Big Ten,
but at that point, they you know, only allowed four
teams in and we had never had a two loss
team make it in, so that you know, stood against
them even though they won the Big Ten conference and
they could have been able to be in the case
for do you know, in a twelve team playoff scenario,
they would have made it six times already. So just
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to give you a sense of you know, for teams
that have been right there knocking on the door Penn
States won that we would have seen already six times
in this thing. In fact, there would have been I
think there's been there's fifteen teams that were part of
the four team college football playoffs, just fifteen over a
decade time. All right, forty six I think as the
number I saw would have been a part of it
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if it was twelve teams.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, So look what Brady is. He's promoting the fact
that this will give us greater parody. The reality is
it feels like although there's you know, if he gives
those numbers, it will, but we've heated a self fulfilling
prophecy with all of the teams kind of joining up
into two major conferences. We're not gonna have great parody.
We're gonna have eight teams from two leagues at least.
(24:10):
So if you think that's parody, that's fine, but that's
not the definition of it. It's just not Here is
Jason McIntyre, who is in for Colin today talking about
Jared Mayo.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
This is shaping up as a one and done for
Gerd Mayo. Mayo again, great Patriots player, a loyal lieutenant
for a few years with Belichick. He inherits the job,
Kraft is giving his full support, and then Mayo guys,
undeniably he's been a train wreck and NFL teams are
getting increasingly okay with I'm moving off my guy.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
After a year.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
We saw Arvin Meyer gone in Jacksonville. We've seen the
Carolina Panthers run through coaches pretty damn quickly. Teams are
not messing around. I am predicting, and this is not
the hot take happy hour to start the show. I
think Gerard Mayo one and done. They have the lowest
win total in the league per Vegas, and if this
team goes four to twelve, may don't take off. I
think it's over for Gerrod Mayo in New England.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, I haven't heard that from anybody. We haven't played
a game yet, so look, Jason is very very much
in the no in regards to reading stories about things.
He's also an avid Jets fan, so him trying to
distract the fact that the Jets are a shit show
so we can pay attention to the Patriots is kind
of classic Jets fan radio.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But is he wrong?
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You bring in a new GM and the GM hires
the coach. I don't think they're going after a year.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
That's just me. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
What does the FU say.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Let's find out what and who is annoying, Jason Stewart,
and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
Hey, Doug, something happened last night. It was so refreshing.
It is so refreshing, and it's annoying that more of
our famous people in the world don't do this. This
is a very human reaction to something that's very obvious.
It's one of those things where everyone's thinking it you
might as well have your superstar react the way all
(26:20):
of us would. This is what's the name of Caitlin
Clark's teammate, Sam Lexi hul Lexi Hall had a big
game last night as they defeated the Connecticut Sun and
said this in the press conference.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Well, the reason that I'm out.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
There is so trying to make it impact defensively, and
I know I was undersized going on CB, and so
trying to just be as active as I.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Could, get my hands on as many of bolls as
I could, and take advantage of Kaitlyn.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Yeah, looks so the visual is Kitlin Kark puts her
head down as soon as lex he says, hands on
as many.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Balls as possible. Yes, all of us.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
React that way, at least on our mind. I'm so
glad that we saw a visual of somebody being a
human being with them.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To me, those balls are perfect.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What else is by you? Jason? Who else is annoying?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
The shit? Are you okay? We're good. We're good on
those guys. Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Jason Tatum is annoying because I think he represents his generation.
Of all the athletes that represent Generation Z, it's Jason Tatum.
I don't know if you saw the quotes. He did
an interview for the Athletic and he was asked about
what happened while they were over in France. So the
(27:47):
background is what he's over in France, he doesn't play
one of the games, and then it becomes a big
media storm. So this is what Tatum says about it.
It's one of those things where there's been so much
talk and debate. There was a period of is he
a superstar or not? Then it was a big debate
like is he a championship ready? Then now it's how
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could he not get in the Olympics. I'm like, I
just won a championship. It's a summertime. It might be
nice to have a little break when you're when you
don't turn on ESPN and they're talking about you, but
I guess this is part of it, and maybe the
level I've reached now in my career. He basically says
that the coverage of him in the Olympics was a lot.
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I think that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
There.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
What annoys me about this is that he seems to
be in this quote complaining that he's always the subject
of debate because remember when he won the championship, he said,
they can't say that anymore, they can't say that I
haven't won anymore. And now he's complaining about being brought
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up in this in the context of themics. I just
think that there's like gen Z has this like super
sensitivity to stop. He kind of admits it in the
final sentence when he says, I guess this is part
of this. Yeah, it's a part of getting fifty million
bucks a year and playing in a high profile sport
in a high profile league that's worldwide, and deal with it.
(29:19):
I don't know. I just get sick of the guys
at complaining kind of what's the word that people use
hand ringing? Is that what this is? Is this hand ringing?
Or am I using it wrong?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think you're using wrong, But it doesn't matter the
point is I agree with you on the complaining. Here's
the thing I think he's he's brought up in basically
the First Take generation, So that's what he watches, and
you talk about him. He thinks it's like people are
on and he's on his phone obviously too much. If
you're on your phone in social media, you're watching First Take,
you think that's what everybody is talking about, and it's not.
(29:50):
It's a very very small select group of people. But
that I would agree with you. He's a product of that.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
That's that's a great I haven't even thought about that.
So your Instagram stories, your TikTok, and you in your
Twitter have the same type of algorithm.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, they have an algorithm, so they're going to funnel
you towards these things. You're like, man, everybody's talking about me. Like, no,
that's just how the algorithm things.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Had never even thought about that. Imagine being fam.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Have you ever done that? Have you ever done that
where you're like looking, I was looking for a car,
so I clicked on different cars and then all of
a sudden, they just keep appearing in my reels. I like, wow,
that's crazy, And you're like, no, that's actually algorithms, and.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
I'm guessing there's a bunch of stuff on your timeline
with people hurting themselves and running into things. And yes, yeah,
my Facebook reels are nothing but King of the Hill
clips and breaking bad clips like they just know.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Those are like some of my favorite shows. So mine
is all politics.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
It's all the political discourse now you know, the right
wing and left wing both. It's just I can't get
enough of it on my for you. The line at
Dodger Stadium. We touched on it at the last part
of our radio show yesterday. There was a massive line
to get into the Dodger game, and I just didn't
understand it. There had to be something behind the bobblehead.
(31:06):
It can't just be about having a show. Hey o
Tawny bobblehead and being a fan of show. Hey, So
Iowa Sam did some research. She saw some stuff online.
I guess there were gold bobbleheads given away among these regular,
regular colored bobbleheads. And these gold bobbleheads are going for
upwards of seventeen thousand dollars. No wonder, there's a fucking
(31:28):
wine if you can go from zero to seventeen thousand
dollars by just being winning the lottery. Now, wonder there's
a line the Dodgers are to blame for that. I
think there was a one local talk did you need.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
An extra motivator for a show? Hey bobblehead? When did
you need an extra motivator for some random you know, pronite?
That's my question there like a show, Hey bobblehead, you'd
have plenty, you'd have a sell out anyway. Why'd you
need to add the extra to it?
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Okay for the Dodge? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
And one there's some local talk show hosts that made
a good point. For the first forty thousand people got it.
That's why there was a line, why not just have
sixty five thousand bubble heads and give it to everybody?
Then you don't have a fucking wine. Everyone just shows up.
Some people win this gold lottery, and that's cool. Lot
it's a strange one to do forty thousand, but not
(32:21):
sixty five. But yeah, and to your point, you don't
have to create an urgency for a Dodger game nowadays,
it's going to be close to sold out anyways. So yeah,
So the whole thing was kind of annoying, but at
the very least I've been given some clarity on this.
So the wine at Dodger Stadium, Jason Tatum's sensitivity, and
(32:42):
uh not enough of our famous people react to get
my hands on as many balls as possible, like Caitlin
Clark just did.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think the fact that that we're just now warming
up to the fact that Caitlyn Clark they can be
just as sophomoric in the locker room as we can,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 10 (33:18):
Dana White has been in this segment many times. There
was a strange exchange where a reporter I think the
reporter asked him, you always say that John Jones is
the is the goat?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Does do you?
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Does he have like compromising pictures on you? And that
that got got under Dana white skin?
Speaker 12 (33:37):
Does he have pictures of you? I saw that on
the internet too. Are you guys that fucking stupid? You
can't be that fucking stupid to think that John Jones
is not the pound for pound best fighter in the
world and the goat.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't know if he is the goat, but I
mean they listen to his Dana's enterprise. What I think
is fascinating about Dana is he keeps siding with John Jones,
who's you know what twice it's it's been peds, including
when he took down Cormier that was going back like
five years ago or so. I was there that was
that sucked because Carmier was fighting so good. And then
(34:15):
John Jones is too much for him. But I love
the fact that Dana can just say what the fuck
he wants, like, he doesn't have to say anything to
anybody that he doesn't want to say. It's crazy, He's
He's way past any sort of Tyson line or Spurrier
line on what he does. How can he do it?
Because that's that's who he is, That's what he does.
(34:35):
He's the boss.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
He makes the rules.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
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Fox Says, which is basically we play for you clips
really of the day on either Fox Sports Tradio or
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couple to be annoyed by in the in on a
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daily basis, we try and determine who's the most annoying
person in sports on Earth. And then we have something
called because we can, where we play for you, usually
an audio clip of somebody cursing many times with other innuendo,
and we can do it unedited because it's a podcast.
So we call it because we can. So that's a
(01:35):
and we have really good stuff today. He's those of
the Bernie Fratto Show on Fox Sports Radio, worked in
Detroit market for many years. He has ties to the
Michigan program and I want to get his thoughts in
the Connor Stallions documentary on Netflix. Bernie would would what
are your thoughts coming out of the dock?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So let me start here? The actress slowly. Tomlin once said,
I always wanted to be some I just wish I'd
been more specific. When this story broke last October, of
course I reached out to my peeps. I've maintained all
my contacts, and for me, the story angle was not
so much what had taken place. You know, it's cheating
in college football is rampant. But who is Connor Stallions?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Who is this guy? Is he some.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Wacko wanna be groupie? How did he find his way
into the average power? You just don't do that. So
I thought the character development regarding Connor Stallions was superb.
This is a guy who is very aeradite, brilliant, intellectual,
very aspirational. You don't just end up at West Point.
(02:42):
He not only got into West Point, he flourished and
during his time there contributed to the football team. I
love the side story about he walked into coach Ken's
office and found himself a job and while he was
there making his contributions, as it were, maybe did well.
Then he goes to the Marine Corps and flourishes there.
These things just don't happen. Now let me let me
(03:03):
digress for just a second. The second wonder was, Okay,
is this guy what we call in Michigan and Walmart
Wolverine meaning my mom went to you were City, Michigan.
There's lots of people in Michigan that think they went there,
that wish they went there. They hate Michigan State and
they act like they went there. And it's an eneugh
Monde of Michigan fans. But growing up, this kid's three
years old, he's got Michigan gear on. His parents teach
(03:25):
him to love Michigan. It's a learned thing. Obviously, this
is not new. It's rampant in Michigan. You see it
right and left, and forty nine out of fifty people
that grew up this way become Walmart Wolverinees. This guy
was truly unique and indifferent, went to lay even Wait,
the story grabbed me because he went to Lake ori
And High School, a football powerhouse there in northeast Detroit.
(03:47):
My son's high school team played them and beat them.
But I digress. So you put those two things together
and the story angle for me that I thought they
did a brilliant job of teaching us the context down
the subtext of who he is, where do they come from,
how did this happen, and where do we go from here?
I thought that part of the documentary was superb.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, do you think that Connor Stallions acted under the
guidance of Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That's a very loaded question, and given the limits of
that question, there's no way to ever know. Do I
think Harball didn't know anything? That's ridiculous. If you've ever
been around Jim Harball, he's as megilal moniacle as it
can be. And he's not a saint. Okay, he's not
he's not a bad guy, but he's not a saint,
so for him not to know anything doesn't pass the
laugh test. How about when Connor's Stallions is granted the
(04:37):
game ball against Iowan twenty twenty two and he says,
don't don't get the big head.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Connor.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, you're on staff, you're a paid staff member at Michigan,
and you're granted a game ball and Marball doesn't know
everything about you not buying it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, what do you think the punishment.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Should be, Well, it's already been administered. This is a
story that continues to have legs. Michigan cut deal with
the Big Ten. That's why Jim Harbaugh would agree to
the suspension. And then the other adjudicating oversight committee is
the NCAA and they just issued their allegation, so Michigan State,
Michigan will have about one hundred days to respond. This
(05:13):
is going to extend into the spring, from people off
talk to the worst thing that could possibly happen. You
might see Sharon Moore get a game suspension, a game
or two next year, slap on the risks, maybe recruiting penalty.
There isn't going to be anything retroactive. There isn't going
to be an asterisk. There isn't going to be games vacated,
(05:33):
the National Championship vacated, the big none of that stuff.
But that doesn't answer your question as to what I
think the punishment should be. The punishment should be exactly
what I think they're doing, because this has become a
bit of a tempest in a teapot. Lots of schools
do this. I'm not excusing the behavior. What's happened, though, Doug,
is that Michigan did it so much better than everybody else.
(05:54):
Toward the end of the documentary, the charts and grafts
that he put together and the credible anular way that
Connor Stallions went about approaching this was so far beyond anything. Okay,
you played college basketball at a high level. There's all
kinds of study. I played division on college baseball. You
try to prepare for your team, your oppony, try to
(06:15):
prepare for your season. But the bottom line is this,
who has ever gone to that level of preparedness? Almost
like General Patton in World War Two? There in lives
of the story at Connor Stallion's character, and of course
the name is right out of Central casting, it's Michigan.
People love to hate Michigan, and you add it all
up and you've got a statement, I hate the perfect storm.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, what about what about last year's national championship? Do
you think that's tarnished?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think that's a false narrative, Doug, because football is
one of the transers. As you know, it's a game
of attrition, and Michigan's so dominated in the interior lines
everybody else. If you watch the film I Got thirteen
NFL PL and you know I was dubious of Michigan
and not believing it within a national championship. Then they
mo through Penn State, Ohio State, Iowa, Alabama, and Washington
(07:10):
in those last five games. I think they didn't even
have counter stallions. They won the game by blocking and tackling.
So I don't believe that the National Championship is tainted.
And I think if you were to peel back the
onion and God could come down and look inside the
belly and the beast of every major program in all
sports going back eighty years, you would find cheating is
(07:33):
beyond rampant.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, I get it, And the question is not is
it ramper or is it not rampant. The question is
when you get caught, what is the level of punishment there?
You know, right, It's like it's like we can all
sit here and go it's not fair when we get
pulled over for speeding because everybody's speeding. But the fact
is when you speed, you still get a ticket, still
have to pay off that ticket. What should the punishment be?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, there were multiple Okay, so I'm going to defer
to what happened visav the Big Ten's decisions and the
NCAA's decisions. Parbot was what suspended what five games? Six games?
Last year? You don't have your head coach on the
sidelines at Penn State, you don't even find out about it,
to the Plane Lands and Happy Valley, you didn't have
for the Ohio State game, et cetera, et cetera. That
(08:17):
was punishment. They tried to do some things to Michigan,
so they threw Connor Stallions under the bus. I think
there was a zoom call amongst Big Ten coaches that
wanted harball fired so across the board it became death
by a thousand cuts. But none of them really stuck
the fact that we're having this conversation today, the fact
(08:38):
that there's a Netflix special, the fact that Connor Stallions
will be a household name in the lexicon of college
football for the next one hundred years, and everybody knows why,
and it's all in. The pejorative is also punishment, So
when you add it all up, it's not one hundred
percent of adjudicated. Something will happen next spring, but the'll
amount to a slap on the wrist. Answer your question directly,
(09:01):
I'm going to defer the NCAA and the Big ten.
I think they handle it in a way that they
wanted to handle it, and there was punishment. There was
no death penalty. There's never going to be that again.
Nobody got fired, were fines, recruiting, all that stuff. Nothing
that egregious. But when you add it all up, it's
a scar and it does not cast Michigan in a
favorable way. And I think that in itself becomes, by
(09:25):
and large the punishment.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bernie, you are the best man. A lot. I agree
with them. There a couple of things I don't, but
in the meantime, really really good insight. Thanks much for
joining us here on the pod.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Thank you, and I just want to put one thing
on the record that I don't I honestly don't subscribe
to the methods of Michigan used, but I'm not going
to play God. Have a good day, guys.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
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Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, let's bring in Kelly Ford. K Ford Ratings
is the Twitter handle to fall to follow.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You'd also go online Kford ridings dot com. As we
had kind of you know, we had a low week zero.
Now we have week one kicking off tonight. Kelly, give
me a predictive analysis on Colorado football.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Colorado Football, Doug is a really interesting team. They have
gotten a lot better my numbers, which suggests since Dion
Coach Prime got too bolder. This program was number one
hundred and twenty five out of one hundred and thirty
one at the time FBS teams in twenty twenty two.
Coach Prime comes in in twenty twenty three, ends the
year number seventy two. This year, I'm projecting number forty
(10:38):
three for the Buffs in.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
My predicted model.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
I still think six and six, given the schedule they're playing,
is the most likely record. But just going bowling at
Colorado in a vacuum should, in my opinion, be considered
a success. Now will it actually be considered a success?
Probably not, because of the amount of height that's been
built up around that program and coach Prime and hit players.
I've done some of that building themselves, so they can't
point too much blame externally. But I do think this
(11:01):
game tonight against North Dakota State is going to be
very interesting. North Dakota State's a top five team at
the SCS level, but Colorado's at home. I got him
with a seventy two percent win expectancy here. I think
the buff offense is going to be really good this year.
The defense is the area we need to see improvement
if this team's going to achieve their goals of you know,
winn an eight or more games.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Kelly Ford. Okay, so, Kelly, North Dakota State,
what do they have coming back? You know, like with
with Colorado, they've been in the portal so much that
we know they have quarterback back. We know you have
one star player back, but there's a lot of new faces.
What about the Division two level, what's that look like.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Yeah, So if I look at my North Dakota State
projections for this year, like I said, this is the
top three team in FCS. South Dakota State, they're big rivals,
certainly coming off a great year last year's projecting right
now to be the favorite at the FCS level. But
for North Dakota State, and granted Doug, my FCS model,
I call it FCS light because it's not quite as
comprehensive and all encompassing as the FBS, But we look
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at either side of the ball here, and for North
Dakota State, I mean, I think this is a top
two maybe even the best offense in the country. Montana
State might have something to say about that, But at
the SDS level, I think North Dakota State on offense
is going to be as good as they come, and
the defense is certainly going to be top ten, maybe
pushing top five. So this North Dakota State team, they're
not to the level of South Dakota State probably, but
(12:25):
outside of that, they are going to be among the
favorites to win the SDS National championship this year, and
I do expect them with all summer to prepare, I
do expect the Bison to push Colorado tonight and make
it a really compelling game.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, Kelly, let's get to some of the other
games are going to take place over the weekend starting tonight.
In the case of course, going into the weekend. In
terms of big name schools tonight, Colorado is at the forefront,
but there's also North Carolina taking on Minnesota. You know,
Mac Brown, last year was to be the year at
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North Carolina. It was good, but they always kick it
off usually with South Carolina in this stretch, and then
of course Minnesota. Now you feel like they're going to
get buried deeper and deeper down the Big Ten with
the expanse of that league. What's your what do your
numbers say on Minnesota and North Carolina today?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
I'm real excited about this one, Doug. I've got it
as a fifty to fifty game, literally a fifty percent
win expectancy for each of these teams. I do have
North Carolina as the slightly better power rated team, coming
in at number forty two, but because the game is
in Minnesota, they're going to get that home field advantage.
I've got Minnesota number fifty two in the country, but
it's fifty to fifty for me. You know, if we
look at either side of the ball here, I probably
(13:39):
like North Carolina's defense a little bit to have the
advantage on that side. The other side, the North Carolina
offense versus Minnesota defense, that's really really close and it's
going to be tight.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But you're right these two teams.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
North Carolina probably has some aspirations to maybe contend for
a spot in Charlotte. I've kind of got them as
a dark horse to have a chance, certainly not among
the favorite. And then from Minnesota, you're right. I mean,
with the expanded big pen, you're getting pushed down, you're
getting buried kind of in the middle of the conference.
My numbers right now are projecting just three wins three
and six as the most likely from Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
But this opening game of the season.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
For both these teams should be really exciting. I've got
a seven point nine out of ten on my watchability scores.
That's what I've got for this game. It is the
seventh best game of Week one by my watchability.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, tomorrow, you've got Oklahoma. Take it on Temple. They're
a forty two point favorite. A new regime of Michigan
State they're a fourteen point favorite. Wisconsin's a twenty four
point favorite at home against Western Michigan. The one that
jumps out to me is TCU, who last year was
so disappointing coming off the National Championship game, going to
new ACC team Stanford on the road on a Friday night.
(14:47):
What do we expect from TCU a year and a
half roof and then playing for national championship.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So I've got TCU number thirty in the power ratings.
Coming into this year, they were only number thirteen and
twenty t twenty two. There was a lot of close
games that TCU won that year. They certainly deserved their
place in the playoff, and then they won that semi
final against Michigan in a great game. So don't take
anything away from them, but from a power rating standpoint,
that TCU team even two years ago was not quite
(15:14):
you know, a top five or ten team in terms
of the model's view. I've got number thirty this year.
We've got a top thirty offense.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You know, the defense is.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Hugging around number fifty but Stanford is not a very
good football team. I expect them to be improved from
a year ago where they finished number one hundred and eight,
which is the worst Stanford has been in my model
in the CFT era. But I've got TCU with a
seventy five percent win expectancy. Even though the horn Frogs
are going on the road, playing on a Friday night,
as you mentioned, but I really like this TCU offense
(15:40):
against a Stanford defense that I have hovering around number
one hundred. I think that's going to be the difference
in this game. I'm just not sure Stanford's going to
be able to get enough stop. But TCU seventy five
percent win expectancy, and I've got this team, you know, looking.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
At seven wins.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Eight wins maybe is the most likely record. So TCU
certainly is going to be looking for a bounce back
to get a little bit closer to where they were
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Let's get a couple from this Saturday, Miami taking on Florida.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
What do you think Miami Florida is another really really
good game. My numbers right now are leaning towards the Gators,
and you can chop that up to really the home
field advantage that they're going to have because I do
have Miami as the slightly better team, but having to
go on the road to their art or to a
rival during the middle of the day, it's going to
be a hot one there in Gainesville. I've got a
fifty five percent win expectancy for Florida. I like both
(16:27):
the offenses in this game. I think they're going to
have the advantage, But to me, it just comes down
to this game's in the swamp. Also, Florida knows how
important this game is. It's important for Miami as well.
But with Florida so many big games, difficult games on
their schedule, it's almost like the Gators can't afford to
lose a game like this one if they even want
to go bowling this year, which of course is a
(16:48):
bare minimum expectation in Gainsville. But that schedule is so difficult.
I think a lot of pressure is on Florida. Mario
christ Ball's got his own pressure, right, because people are
talking about the CFP for the Hurricanes this year, so
this game has que. It's got a nine point three
on my watchability Scores, which makes it a top five
game of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Notre Dame taking on Tech's A and M. This one
in College station Ags are a three point home favorite.
What are they about Marcus Freeman's team and their ability
to come in and get a road win.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
I like Notre Dame this year, and I've got this
game with a nine point eight watchability score. It's the
number one game of Week one, and I actually would
lean with I would take the point with Notre Dame
here because I've got this as a fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Game and there's a lot of unknowns.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
There's a lot of storylines here, right met Mike Elko
coming over from Duke head coach at A and M
now going up against his former quarterback at Duke who's
now at Notre Dame. And Riley Leonard. So there's a
lot to like about this game. There's a ton of storylines.
Both of these teams in the top fifteen for me
in the preseason, all four of these units ranking in
the top twenty nationally. This is a very very high
profile game and it's probably more important, I would say,
(17:52):
for Notre Dame than A and M. Because A and
M got this SDC schedule to play.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
They can collect big wins.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
If you look at Notre Dame schedule, especially after the
Florida State lost last week against Georgia Tech, there are
only two games on the irishis schedule in which my
numbers right now projected to be a one score game.
There's just not a lot of meat on the Notre
Dame schedule, which we are not used to saying. Typically
the Irish have a very difficult schedule weekend or year
in and year out.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
This year is not so much so.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
If Notre Dame gets past this one here at A
and M, which is a big, big if and a
big test, they are likely to be undefeated late into
the year and certainly positioning themselves well for a spot
in this expanded twelve team field.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's the one and only Kelly Ford. He joins us
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Foxford Trade. All right,
that was your most watchable game of the weekend. Probably
your second most watchable game is Georgia taken on Clemson
in Atlanta. Clemson is interesting, right, didn't play the portal
Georgia obviously back to back national titles up until you
(18:48):
know last year, and you know they stump Florida State
out in the bowl game but don't get to the
national semi final. What do you think about Clemson Georgia
this weekend?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
This is a top five game for me in the
Week one slate. Certainly it's got a nine point zero
on the watchability score. The only reason it's not higher
is because my numbers actually have an eighty five percent
win expectancy for Georgia in this game. The Bulldogs are
a really, really good football team. They're number one in
my power ratings by four points. That's a massive gap
between Georgia and number two Ohio State. Right now, my
(19:20):
model would make Georgia a four point favored against the
Buckeyes on a neutral field.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Clemson's a top fifteen team.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
They are now, by my numbers, the favorite in the
ACC now that Florida State has stumbled within conference play.
But this is going to be a huge task for
the Tigers, especially when the model's doing this as a
neutral site game. We could have a debate about that
because it is in Atlanta, so it's not Napens, but.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
It's in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I think Georgia is going to get a little bit
of home field advantage here that the model's not accounting
for what helps Clemson is that this is Week one,
and as I always talk about, you know, the longer
you have to prepare for a game, and the data
supports this, the more it favors the underdog in that game.
So Clemson has had all summer to game plan, scheme
and prepare for this. Now Georgia has two, but Clemson's
had all summer.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I expect then if Georgia.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Does have a weakness, which I'm not convinced they do.
If they do, you've got to trust that Dabbo and
his staff I've tried to identify that and look to
exploit it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Here.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I would advise Clemson van is saying, don't go well,
don't get two down on yourselves or on the season,
because you still, even if you lose this game, are
likely going to be coming out of this week the
favorite in the ACC by my model, assuming you don't
just absolutely get your doors blown off, which I don't
think will happen. I think George is going to wear
down Clemson over the course of the game and get
a win, probably.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Comfortably in the end.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
But I don't expect Clemson to be blown out and
this be over by halftime.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Kelly, You're awesome man. Look forward to the games this weekend.
We'll talk next week. Thanks so much for joining us
in Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Can't wait. Doug really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
Let's get to the Fox says and now every day,
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Ready to play. For your portion of a previous show
on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One, here's Dan Patrick.
He had exchange with Jason Garrett about the Patriots decision
to go with Jacoby Brissett at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Give me that philosophy.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Do you think with girod Mayo, rookie coach, going with
a little more experienced quarterback instead of his rookie quarterback.
You know, I agree with the decision. I keep thinking
back of what Andy Reid did in Kansas City with
Patrick Mahomes and just the idea that you draft the
guy high. You know he's going to be your quarterback
of the future. But in Kansas City they had Alex Smith.
(21:28):
Alex is going to play this year. Patrick you're going
to learn, and I think that's probably going to be
a similar situation for Drake May in New England. And
Jacoby Brissett's an accomplished player, He's played a lot of football.
He'll do a good job for them. I don't think
they're a great team right now. I don't think the
environment is great, so you'd probably rather have a veteran
(21:48):
guy who can handle that the ups and downs of it,
maybe a little bit better than a rookie. The different
situations are what they are. I think it makes sense
for Jade Daniels to play and Whyington and for Caleb
Williams to play in Chicago. But you know they have Jakobe.
They did that on purpose. Their team isn't necessarily great,
why not let him wait. He hasn't played as much
(22:11):
football as Jayden Daniels did in college, so maybe he's
a little less experienced.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And I don't mind this route at all.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I don't mind it either. I think he gives
them a little bit more time to develop, a little
bit more time to wait. I think Jason said a
lot of the things that we've been thinking, maybe in
a little bit more diplomatic fashion, but I just honestly
kind of agreat. Maybe it's because I agree with him,
but I thought there was some much better tact than
the way we've said it. Here's Brady Quinn talking about
the expanded playoffs in college football.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
The expanded playoffs, it's going to allow for more teams
in October November to be played more meaningful games because
there's gona be more chances for teams to get it.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Take for example, Penn State.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Penn State has not been to the college football Playoff, Lvar.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
You brought it up yesterday.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
They probably should have went when they won the Big Ten,
but at that point, they you know, only allowed four
teams in and we had never had a two loss
team make it in, so that you know, stood against
them even though they won the Big Ten conference and
they could have been able to be in the case
for do you know, in a twelve team playoff scenario,
they would have made it six times already. So just
(23:21):
to give you a sense of you know, for teams
that have been right there knocking on the door Penn
States won that we would have seen already six times
in this thing. In fact, there would have been I
think there's been there's fifteen teams that were part of
the four team college football playoffs, just fifteen over a
decade time. All right, forty six I think as the
number I saw would have been a part of it
(23:43):
if it was twelve teams.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, So look what Brady is. He's promoting the fact
that this will give us greater parody. The reality is
it feels like although there's you know, if he gives
those numbers, it will, but we've heated a self fulfilling
prophecy with all of the teams kind of joining up
into two major conferences. We're not gonna have great parody.
We're gonna have eight teams from two leagues at least.
(24:10):
So if you think that's parody, that's fine, but that's
not the definition of it. It's just not Here is
Jason McIntyre, who is in for Colin today talking about
Jared Mayo.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
This is shaping up as a one and done for
Gerd Mayo. Mayo again, great Patriots player, a loyal lieutenant
for a few years with Belichick. He inherits the job,
Kraft is giving his full support, and then Mayo guys,
undeniably he's been a train wreck and NFL teams are
getting increasingly okay with I'm moving off my guy.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
After a year.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
We saw Arvin Meyer gone in Jacksonville. We've seen the
Carolina Panthers run through coaches pretty damn quickly. Teams are
not messing around. I am predicting, and this is not
the hot take happy hour to start the show. I
think Gerard Mayo one and done. They have the lowest
win total in the league per Vegas, and if this
team goes four to twelve, may don't take off. I
think it's over for Gerrod Mayo in New England.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, I haven't heard that from anybody. We haven't played
a game yet, so look, Jason is very very much
in the no in regards to reading stories about things.
He's also an avid Jets fan, so him trying to
distract the fact that the Jets are a shit show
so we can pay attention to the Patriots is kind
of classic Jets fan radio.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But is he wrong?
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You bring in a new GM and the GM hires
the coach. I don't think they're going after a year.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
That's just me. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
What does the FU say.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Let's find out what and who is annoying, Jason Stewart,
and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
Hey, Doug, something happened last night. It was so refreshing.
It is so refreshing, and it's annoying that more of
our famous people in the world don't do this. This
is a very human reaction to something that's very obvious.
It's one of those things where everyone's thinking it you
might as well have your superstar react the way all
(26:20):
of us would. This is what's the name of Caitlin
Clark's teammate, Sam Lexi hul Lexi Hall had a big
game last night as they defeated the Connecticut Sun and
said this in the press conference.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Well, the reason that I'm out.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
There is so trying to make it impact defensively, and
I know I was undersized going on CB, and so
trying to just be as active as I.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Could, get my hands on as many of bolls as
I could, and take advantage of Kaitlyn.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
Yeah, looks so the visual is Kitlin Kark puts her
head down as soon as lex he says, hands on
as many.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Balls as possible. Yes, all of us.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
React that way, at least on our mind. I'm so
glad that we saw a visual of somebody being a
human being with them.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To me, those balls are perfect.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What else is by you? Jason? Who else is annoying?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
The shit? Are you okay? We're good. We're good on
those guys. Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Jason Tatum is annoying because I think he represents his generation.
Of all the athletes that represent Generation Z, it's Jason Tatum.
I don't know if you saw the quotes. He did
an interview for the Athletic and he was asked about
what happened while they were over in France. So the
(27:47):
background is what he's over in France, he doesn't play
one of the games, and then it becomes a big
media storm. So this is what Tatum says about it.
It's one of those things where there's been so much
talk and debate. There was a period of is he
a superstar or not? Then it was a big debate
like is he a championship ready? Then now it's how
(28:11):
could he not get in the Olympics. I'm like, I
just won a championship. It's a summertime. It might be
nice to have a little break when you're when you
don't turn on ESPN and they're talking about you, but
I guess this is part of it, and maybe the
level I've reached now in my career. He basically says
that the coverage of him in the Olympics was a lot.
(28:33):
I think that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
There.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
What annoys me about this is that he seems to
be in this quote complaining that he's always the subject
of debate because remember when he won the championship, he said,
they can't say that anymore, they can't say that I
haven't won anymore. And now he's complaining about being brought
(28:57):
up in this in the context of themics. I just
think that there's like gen Z has this like super
sensitivity to stop. He kind of admits it in the
final sentence when he says, I guess this is part
of this. Yeah, it's a part of getting fifty million
bucks a year and playing in a high profile sport
in a high profile league that's worldwide, and deal with it.
(29:19):
I don't know. I just get sick of the guys
at complaining kind of what's the word that people use
hand ringing? Is that what this is? Is this hand ringing?
Or am I using it wrong?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think you're using wrong, But it doesn't matter the
point is I agree with you on the complaining. Here's
the thing I think he's he's brought up in basically
the First Take generation, So that's what he watches, and
you talk about him. He thinks it's like people are
on and he's on his phone obviously too much. If
you're on your phone in social media, you're watching First Take,
you think that's what everybody is talking about, and it's not.
(29:50):
It's a very very small select group of people. But
that I would agree with you. He's a product of that.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
That's that's a great I haven't even thought about that.
So your Instagram stories, your TikTok, and you in your
Twitter have the same type of algorithm.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, they have an algorithm, so they're going to funnel
you towards these things. You're like, man, everybody's talking about me. Like, no,
that's just how the algorithm things.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Had never even thought about that. Imagine being fam.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Have you ever done that? Have you ever done that
where you're like looking, I was looking for a car,
so I clicked on different cars and then all of
a sudden, they just keep appearing in my reels. I like, wow,
that's crazy, And you're like, no, that's actually algorithms, and.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
I'm guessing there's a bunch of stuff on your timeline
with people hurting themselves and running into things. And yes, yeah,
my Facebook reels are nothing but King of the Hill
clips and breaking bad clips like they just know.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Those are like some of my favorite shows. So mine
is all politics.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
It's all the political discourse now you know, the right
wing and left wing both. It's just I can't get
enough of it on my for you. The line at
Dodger Stadium. We touched on it at the last part
of our radio show yesterday. There was a massive line
to get into the Dodger game, and I just didn't
understand it. There had to be something behind the bobblehead.
(31:06):
It can't just be about having a show. Hey o
Tawny bobblehead and being a fan of show. Hey, So
Iowa Sam did some research. She saw some stuff online.
I guess there were gold bobbleheads given away among these regular,
regular colored bobbleheads. And these gold bobbleheads are going for
upwards of seventeen thousand dollars. No wonder, there's a fucking
(31:28):
wine if you can go from zero to seventeen thousand
dollars by just being winning the lottery. Now, wonder there's
a line the Dodgers are to blame for that. I
think there was a one local talk did you need.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
An extra motivator for a show? Hey bobblehead? When did
you need an extra motivator for some random you know, pronite?
That's my question there like a show, Hey bobblehead, you'd
have plenty, you'd have a sell out anyway. Why'd you
need to add the extra to it?
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Okay for the Dodge? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
And one there's some local talk show hosts that made
a good point. For the first forty thousand people got it.
That's why there was a line, why not just have
sixty five thousand bubble heads and give it to everybody?
Then you don't have a fucking wine. Everyone just shows up.
Some people win this gold lottery, and that's cool. Lot
it's a strange one to do forty thousand, but not
(32:21):
sixty five. But yeah, and to your point, you don't
have to create an urgency for a Dodger game nowadays,
it's going to be close to sold out anyways. So yeah,
So the whole thing was kind of annoying, but at
the very least I've been given some clarity on this.
So the wine at Dodger Stadium, Jason Tatum's sensitivity, and
(32:42):
uh not enough of our famous people react to get
my hands on as many balls as possible, like Caitlin
Clark just did.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think the fact that that we're just now warming
up to the fact that Caitlyn Clark they can be
just as sophomoric in the locker room as we can,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 10 (33:18):
Dana White has been in this segment many times. There
was a strange exchange where a reporter I think the
reporter asked him, you always say that John Jones is
the is the goat?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Does do you?
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Does he have like compromising pictures on you? And that
that got got under Dana white skin?
Speaker 12 (33:37):
Does he have pictures of you? I saw that on
the internet too. Are you guys that fucking stupid? You
can't be that fucking stupid to think that John Jones
is not the pound for pound best fighter in the
world and the goat.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't know if he is the goat, but I
mean they listen to his Dana's enterprise. What I think
is fascinating about Dana is he keeps siding with John Jones,
who's you know what twice it's it's been peds, including
when he took down Cormier that was going back like
five years ago or so. I was there that was
that sucked because Carmier was fighting so good. And then
(34:15):
John Jones is too much for him. But I love
the fact that Dana can just say what the fuck
he wants, like, he doesn't have to say anything to
anybody that he doesn't want to say. It's crazy, He's
He's way past any sort of Tyson line or Spurrier
line on what he does. How can he do it?
Because that's that's who he is, That's what he does.
(34:35):
He's the boss.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
He makes the rules.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
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