September 11, 2024 • 39 mins
Doug riffs on the Presidential Debate. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on Colorado football. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in. This is a
sports show and I want to take a sports perspective
on it. Last night, I we had a we had
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a dinner with our Phoenix Fund, that's our foundation for
our university. Was awesome, and I came home and I
watched the debate and I think, let me let me
draw the let me draw the sports parallel to it,
because today former President Trump went on on Fox News
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and said that he thought it was a rigged, a
rig debate, that maybe she had the answers, and like,
we're back in the same shit. And then last night
there's a story out there that he said lost by
a whisker. He didn't want to own the lost. He
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still continues to think that the election was taken from him.
I don't use my platform for political gain or whatever.
And I know that there's many of you who will
tweet me after this that a listener, I didn't want you,
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then sorry, I didn't want you, then don't need you.
And it's not because of any other reason, because I
will give you that there are there are policy things.
There is you know, there's always we talk about always
flip flopping, and the truth is just once. I want
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a politician to say, like, you know, I thought one
way for a long time and then I changed my
mind because I saw it a different way. And here's
why I saw it a different way. I've never heard
of politician say that, you know. I think Josh Shapiro,
I think is his name, jos Shapiro, when asked about
a paper he wrote when he was in college, he
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sort of said that he was like I was twenty
at the time. He was talking about an Israel. He
wrote about Israel. So I do think that Kamala Harris
very very easily on some of these issues, which you
can evolve on issues, you can change on issues. And
by the way, she can disagree with your boss. And
that's part of it, you know, he's just like, why
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haven't you done this? Like you can disagree with your boss,
You're allowed to. He's still the boss. He gets to
call the shots. Any of us who have had bosses,
I have bosses now. They say to do something, but
I find it it's a lot like when you lead
with the refs, the refs, the refs, the refs, the refs,
the restaurant to get it's the reft is wrong, the
rest were That's what he sounds like. And Jay I
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was riveted to what I was watching, and I just
I look around, and I go, I I look, do
I understand? Look, I was for a period of time,
I was a dual citizen with Israel. Okay, do I
think a more heavy handed, completely one percent all in
backing Israel approach is the right approach?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, But I also know that it doesn't matter who's president.
We're not bailing on Israel. We're not, you know, I
just don't know how anybody could watch last night and
go like, yep, that's the guy. I don't understand. I
need somebody to explain it to me, because it's so
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it's literally the exact same lines, only he changes out
who it is. Everybody outside of him is corrupt, everybody
outside of him is trying to get him. Everybody's an
idiot except for him. And he didn't actually lose, and
he's never done anything wrong. Like, it's just it's too much.
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And again, I was sitting here talking with a friend
of mine and he was just like we were watching
Fox News, and he pops up and he hops on
and like, look he like even last night, anyone who
watched the debate, it's like he did not win that debate. Now,
if you wanted to go to the old well, he's
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not a professional politician. He's not a debater that somebody does. Fine,
you know, fine. His lack of preperedness is just he
doesn't give a shit, you know. His inability or lack
of desire to prepare for for the debate is it's
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a lot like what I tell I've told my own
son this. I tell my players this as well. Like
if they're not working on their shooting and then they
miss a big shot, or they miss shots or they
don't get a chance to take shots because I know
they haven't been working, you can't get mad. I do
this with golf, Like I don't get mad when I'm
bad at golf. Why I don't practice golf. I go
ahead and play. I try to have a good time.
It's super fucking frustrating, right, it's the old adage. Why
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they name it golf because goddamn motherfucker was already taken,
or they was too big to call it a sport
well or every other four letter word was taken. Whatever.
The fact is, golf is hard, it's frustrating, and so
for the most part, what I maintain in my balance
is like, hey, man, I don't practice enough. I don't
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give a shit enough, so I'm not gonna get mad
when I hit one stray into the woods or even
have a day where I'm in my pocket half the day. Right,
same thing for him, like he should walk around today
and be like, yeah, whatever, debate doesn't matter. I didn't
put that much into it. I don't care. But he's
the worst guy, and I've had this. Why so my
son gets mad or missing shots and games like, well,
did you take a thousand shots during the week, Well,
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then how do you expect to make him on the weekend? Right,
doesn't magically happen. I'd expect to win a debate if
you don't prepare for that debate. But I don't know, man,
I just there's a lot of things that you can say,
and I know how people are like, she did some
gray area stuff, which they all do, and people are like, well,
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why did the ABC people not because he said they're
eating cats and dogs, which is like a made up
internet story, which is his whole thing, Like he believed
that Obama wasn't born in the United States. Why because
it's a made up Internet story, Like he literally trolls
the internet, finds the story and then tells it to
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his people, and everybody believes it to be true. And
I just don't understand how that. I don't know how
that's good to be president of the United States. Can you
help me out, Jay, Like, I understand there's parts of
the policies of the current White House the Democrats, which
you really really don't like. And I'm with you, but
we only have two choices, and I don't understand how
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that's even a possible choice.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to speak for myself
because I literally am undecided. I've gotten text messages from
Kamala Harris to prove that I'm undecided and independent. But
I will tell you what I listened to way too
much political commentary. I listened to too many podcasts. My
Twitter feed is filled with it. And I'll tell you
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what the answer is to your question. You could accept
this or not. The answer is that there are magas
that are going to vote for Trump regardless.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No question. There's about forty what is about forty two
to forty four percent of the people are going to vote.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
For him, correct, I think I think what they said
was twenty five percent of the people are never going
to vote for her, and twenty five percent of the
people are never going to vote for him, and it's
all about what to do with everyone else in the middle.
So the Conservatives that are still going to vote Trump
remove the candidate from the equation and they're strictly voting
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on the policies of the policies, I mean, the policies
of the party, and that they remove the candidate from
the equation. Trump is so offensive though, that he really
tests that because as much as you might trust a
Republican policy, he might go rogue at any point. I
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know that scares the shit out of his own party.
And the answer, also Doug, is how could you still
vote for Trump? Because I hate the other side that much?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But but again, it's not the way that government works
like the president is. Do they dictate some policy, Yeah,
but they're a figurehead a representation of it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If that's the case, then then Trump won't won't ruin
democracy like everyone says either, right, Neither of them are
going to ruin democracy?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, but what was done? I mean, you know, protesting
and having a riot after instead and telling your vice
president not to certify an election which was a viable,
certifiable election. Is that that's the ruining democracy, the threats
and the fact that we know they're going to protest,
they lose again, like it's going to happen, Like that's
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not how it works. And this is here's the sports parallel.
This is why handshake line. This is why wrestling is
the greco Roman Wrestling is the greatest sport ever invented.
It's just two guys entering way the same do you
have whatever style you want, right, and then when you're done,
you go over, you shake the other coach's hands, and
then you have to stand there, you know, and they
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raise the hand of the winner, and then you have
to shake their hands. That's what That's what sorry, and
this is not to be shown. Is that's what a
man is supposed to do. I think it's the biggest
bullshit pussy thing ever that four years removed from it,
he can't just go like, yeah, lost, I'm gonna win
this one. I lost that last one. Instead, it just
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sounds like the guy who four years ago, lost like, yeah,
the ref screwed me, like yeat, No, they really didn't,
Like there's video evidence that you stepped out of bounds,
are buddy? I mean, I don't know. It's so bad.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's so bad. I don't know. And again, I thought
she was super impressive, and she should be. She was
a former prosecutor and she had she was a little
nervous at the start, a grace ease, and she dangled
a little bit of chum in the water for him
and he took he bit every bait that It was
pretty masterful.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It just seemed like like there was an adult and
then there was a child and she.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't think he felt like a child. I think
he just he seemed very angry.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It took every bit of bait she put out there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, it was really. I mean, it's really and and
that is there's a sport to it. Did you know.
I was on the debate team when I was in
and and now The style that I learned was it's
a little different. But it's basically like, if what you
say is true, and you could use this against him
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all the time, right, if what you say is true,
well then why isn't this true? And yeah, I mean
it's it's fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
She took a question, I think this was it. She
took a question that you were put in charge of
finding out the root, the root problem of immigration, do you,
you know, take any responsibility for what's happened to the border,
and she's she literally had the balls to say this,
have you been to Trump's rallies. I've welcome you all
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to go to Trump's rallies. They leave early because they
get bored. Everyone's bored with what he's saying. In other words,
she didn't answer to the question at all. She went
right to the rallies, and then Trump, like a child,
took the bait. He took the bait.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, instead of going like no, no, no, I'll give her
some more time she can explain it. On the other hand,
there is the easy exit, which is the you know,
he had them kill the bill, and I guess by
the numbers immigrations. Actually it was actually skyrocketed when he
came in office. But it's a problem. It needs to
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be fixed. Republicans are blocking any sort of action. You know,
President Biden never gave an executive order, not that that
actually does anything because Trump would do them all the time.
It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but yeah, you're right, he
just he didn't. He couldn't control his aggression and his
defensive nature and instead, you know, couldn't put her on
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the perial hot seat. And now it's like she wants
to debate again, and there's still those topics which he
can seize upon. But like, dude, another couple of hours
of him in front of the camera getting clearly angry
and just getting dismantled by it again, Like here's the
here's the part that I just wish that she would
use talking about debate techniques. Right, What is he said
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about her this entire time that she's not very bright? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Correct? Yep?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So I just love like you can use the if,
and I thought Biden should use this last time. If
I'm not very bright, that's fine your entire your opinion,
And everybody says I dominated you in a debate, What
does that say about you? You know I actually lean
into their criticism, right, But I mean that's my right.
So I studied up a bunch, I prepared, I got
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to get a night rest, and I dominated glass. What
does that say about you? But look, I'm not saying
she's a perfect candidate.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
She's not. But I thought last night was remember the
impresitive the Biden meltdown, the famous Biden meltdown debate that
sucked up all the oxygen in the media right after
the debate and until they were able to remove the
guy people like this. The second thought was always, but
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Trump had a bad debate too, Like he lied the
entire time, but the you know, they were so preoccupied
with removing the the current president, that it was like
people kind of forgot Trump sucked on that debate as well.
It just wasn't the political meltdown the bidle.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, he was, he was bad. He was bad, but
but but Biden was worse. Biden was just so out
to lunch. That was the issue there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So I don't know why you would agree to a
third debate because he's basically over too if you take
that whole Biden thing out of it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yep, yes, yes, indeed.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Let's get to the Buck set. And now I'd say
every day this time and the Doug Gottlieb Show in
the Bonus podcast we played for a previous portion of
Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports Ones shows, This is
Dan Patrick and Jim Harball. They had this exchange.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who has it better than we do? Nobody? How about that?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
We're getting a lot of mileage out of that. That
story you told us when you and your brother and
sister are walking what a mile to wherever? And your
dad made it seem like you got the greatest life
from the world.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
They sure did. Dan came out one day. We're living
in Iowa City, Iowa. We had we had a dealer car,
but for some reason, that dealer car wasn't there that day,
and uh, my dad said, no car today. Boys, we're walking.
John grab a basketball hundred with the right, then a
hundred with the left. Jim get a basketball hundred with
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the right, hundred with the left.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
We're walking. Who's got it us?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nobody? Dead body?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Now do you say that if you say that to
your team, do they They look at you and go, Okay,
I don't know what this means, but you certainly seem
enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It's it's the Uh, there's a couple of layers of it. Uh,
you know, the it's just a way of looking at something, right,
I mean, who's got it better than us? Nobody? That's
a perspective. And then it also has the layer of
there's there's of ankle weights of you know, sometimes you
don't think you have it good or somebody else has
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got it better, but it's actually the thing that's that's
you know, making you overcome something that makes you better.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I love it, I truly do well. I talk about
this with my team all the time. It's the old
your worst day is somebody else's best day. So I
personally really like Jim Harball. I know he's he's a
bit of a different dude. I get the catching the
ball and throwing the ball with wide receiver gloves and
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the khakis and like he's but I just I love
that with his dad, you know, love that with his dad.
Like Hunter with the left, Hunter with the right, Like
it's the best. It's make lemons out of lemonade. I
mean to make the lemonade out of lemons. So I
can't tell you how much I like that. Plus he's
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coaching the Chargers. They look competently coached in harball. We trust.
Here's Ready quinnin talking about playing a n D.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Everyone tells you when you're there, like you really don't
understand the matitude of Notre Dame until you leave, And
it's true, you know, you don't understand the reach it has.
You don't understand the poll it has, how people identify you.
And for the guys that choose the go threat of
high school, I feel like they oftentimes have a better
feeling for what they're signing up for, maybe not fully
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being aware of it, but having a pretty good sense
as opposed to in the world of NIL when when
guys come from different schools, they really don't know, especially
if they're only going to be there for a year.
So it's like it's almost as if like they had
this other college experience and then they go to this
and they're like, WHOA, this is really different, Like I
don't you know, I haven't been in a program that's
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like kind of training me prepared me to adapt to this,
and it's very, very different. So I think that approach
is difficult for every transfer that comes in to be
on the big stage like that, and the national attention
that comes along with it. I think the mentality is
you have to understand everyone's always going to give you
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their best shot because you're Notre Dame. And it's going
to sound biased because I'm a Notre Dame man, but
I experienced that. I understand the trash talk that I
heard being in that stadium, being on that field, and
the things people would say and the things they talk about.
How you would get teams that would come in there
and say, like, hey man, we're making history today.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's one of those things where Notre Dame still carries
a bunch of weight. It just does. And you heard
Thomas Hammock, the head coach of Northern Illinois, on our
radio show, and you can hear it later on the podcast.
And it still means a lot, a lot. It's still
Notre Dame. It's still Touchdown Jesus is still the four Horsemen,
It's still New Rockney, It's still really really special. Here's
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Colin Callhert talking about Colorado football.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I've called IOWA the fake id of college football. They'd
win eight or nine games, argue they should be in
a major Bowl of the playoff because they beat up
on directional schools out of conference, maybe Purdue, and then
go get shelled against the big boy. But you can
only have a fake ID for so long. At some
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point you're twenty one and can drink legally. So I'm
you know, it's time for a new fake ID of
college football.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know somebody that is.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
New on campus, talking a big game, little thirsty and
not of legal age, kind of a poser, and I
think it's Colorado. Deon Sanders is the new fake ID
of college football.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
A lot of talk, a lot of hat, no cattle.
I mean, at least Iowa could hold their liquor. These
guys are vomiting on themselves after a margarita.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's bad.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
They've lost seven straight games to FBS teams, worst run
offense in America. Can't defend the run, can't play defense,
tackle poorly. I mean, at least Iowa wore a collared
shirt and sort of played the part. Maybe they can
match up with Michigan. Colorado can't even compete.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
A phenomenal phenomenal You know, there's a lot of people.
When I was hired, I'm sure a lot of people thought, oh,
Dion Sanders of it. And there's a lot of good
things that Dion's done. But what you have to do
is you have to have substance. And I'll also point
out that I feel a little bit of empathy towards
Dion only in that when you're trying to flip a program,
it's hard. I mean, look, look, Lincoln Riley is as
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good a coach as there is in the country, but
when things are run down, it's very, very difficult to
build them up. Their issue has not been with their failures,
it's how they've handled their failures, the blame that they've
laid on everybody except for themselves, and that's just you know,
with Dion, it's always like most college programs, it's about Dion,
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but there's no accountability when things don't go well from Dion.
Now they play Colorado State, who there was an incredibly physical,
tough game last year, and this is the game that
they've been waiting on. This is their super Bowl. You
lose this one, you're going into Big twelve play Granted,
you could still technically make the College Foball Playoff, but
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the likelihood when you start to sustain injuries to your
best players and you just get beaten up and you
lose some confidence. I think there's a chance that he
shuts down Travis Huder and Shador Sanders before the season
is done. There's as good a chance as that as
there is of them winning the Big Twelve title. I
wouldn't go as far as to say, like, I think
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Iowa actually I think it's bullshit what he said about Iowa.
I'm just here's why it's bullshit. Okay, Iowa knows exactly
who the fuck they are. They have never been. They
don't have what Ohio State has in terms of in
state talent, out of state reach, or the ability to
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go and buy players, Like, hey, congratulations Ohio State for
getting the best roster ever. You spend fifteen fucking million dollars.
Maybe even more if you give that fifteen to twenty
million dollars to Iowa, they'd have that. Iowa knows exactly
who they are and do they do the best they
can with what they got. So Iowa since twenty thirteen
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is average nine wins like in no world. And I
understand that came back from when they were undefeated and
they had close wins. And look, the truth is, Jim
Tressel's Ohio State I called them the Luckey's team, like
there are teams that are just luckier better than they
are actually good. But I just I think I was
a team of substance. I think Colorado is complete bullshit.
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Therein lies the difference. That's what the Fox said, what
I'd say.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's find out what's annoying Jation Steward.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And now it's your annoy case.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Do what's annoying you, Hey, Doug. The ratings are out
for a week one average viewership twenty one million per game.
That's a record and it really flies in the face
of the fact that the product is not very entertaining
to watch. Troy y Aikman going into Monday Nights game was
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asked about the low quality of play from Sunday's games.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
The topic you aproached a bit earlier.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Just quarterback play around the league, and then numbers, and
there's probably explanations for it, but there are only thirty
three touchdown passes week one. A couple of years ago,
it's sixty one half the league yesterday through for under
two hundred yards. I get people don't play in the preseason.
I get that, but that's not new and these numbers
just they jumped out on me, and I'm just interested
if you have some theory.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
As to watch well, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Partly, the fact that they don't play impacts things. You know,
they don't work together as often in the offseason or
in training camp as they once did because a lot
of players who simply aren't practicing because.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Of the fear factor of injury.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It's quite simply, Scott, the quarterback play yesterday was not
very good overall in general, not very good. There were
some really good performances, but I saw some really bad
quarterback play. Now you expect some of that from the rookies,
of course, but there were some guys who were veteran
players that just simply didn't play rong.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So proving my point, Doug, that NFL has reached the
Zuopa part of their existence, that they are putting out
a product as substandard and the public is not only
coming back in the same numbers, but what nineteen percent
more people watch games this Sunday, which is it's going
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to be a contradiction I think I'm going to point
out all year the product on the field's not great,
but people are showing up in droves to watch zu Ropa.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah. I mean, like, look, they're doing this in themselves
by massively undervaluing the preseason, right, massively massively undervaluing the preseason,
and I you know, it's just so painfully, painfully obvious
what they're doing. And you know, you can't get ready
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to play football until you play football.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I agree with Troy's assessment. I thought it was really
really poor quarterback play. I thought the level of play.
I don't think that the product is as unentertaining as
you leave it you want to believe, but I do
think that it was definitely there was a lot of rust.
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What else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Something that Dan Dakich said a couple of months ago.
He's my favorite ghost that we have on the show.
I love dow and I think he said something that
you're not supposed to say out well, right, which is,
no one is more cabby than then? Was it women
about other women?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But it was my.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Last much less delicate than that. Yeah, and I agree
with them. And here's a great example. So Kathy Engelbert
is the commissioner of the WNBA. She went on a
national TV outlet last week and talked about the success
of the league this year and the big rivalry between
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Reese and Clark.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Right now, we do sit at this intersection of culture
and sport and fashion and music. Like the WNBA players
are really looked at now as kind of cultural icons. True,
and when you have that, you have a lot of
attention on you. There's no more apathy. Everybody cares. It
is a little that bird magic moment if you recall
from nineteen seventy nine when those two rookies came in
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from a big college rivalry, one white, one black, and
so we have that moment with these two.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But the one thing I know about.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Sports, you need rivalry. That's what makes people watch. They
want to watch games of consequence between rivals. They don't
want everybody being nice to one another. Social media is
different today than it was in nineteen seventy nine when
it didn't exist. But you know, I always tell the players,
you know I was told a long time ago, if
someone's typing something in and you wouldn't ask their advice,
ignore it. So it's it's a balance but certainly from
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a marketing dollars. But corporate partners are stepping up to
endorse these players much much more so than they were
five years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So you think that what she just said is all true?
Who could possibly find anything wrong with what you just said?
Terry Jackson, the head of the WMBAPA, has a lot
of issues with what you just heard. Here's a highlight
of her release statement. This is not about rivalries or
iconic personalities fueling a business model. This kind of toxic
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fandom should never be tolerated and left unchecked. It demands
immediate action and frankly, should have been addressed long ago.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's hilarious. What do I What do I even do
with that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It seems pretty simple to me, and the commissioner even
addressed this, like if you want to be famous, if
you want your business to grow and you want to
make more money with that becomes a lot of shit.
Ask any famous person. The more famous they got, the
more shit they got, and the more bad comments they got.
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There's no way to legislate that. What you can do
if you're the head of the w n b A
b bp A, how about you do seminars on your players?
Being more thick skinned. How about you do seminars on
your players not focusing on social media because you're not
going to legislate the horrible racist comments that just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, you're you're just You're just not. I I just
it's one of those leagues where I although Kaylen Clark
continues to impress me and I think impress everybody, if
we're really honest with ourselves, we'll sit there and go
This league was not ready for the fame that it it,
and it had twenty six, twenty seven years to get
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ready for it. They weren't ready for it because it's
been kind of a clown show, you know. I mean
even the fashion runway entrance, you know, outfits that many
of these women wear, and many of them are beautiful,
beautiful women, but even that seems kind of hacky.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's like, Hey, we going to do this because the
NBA does this, and we're going to It's just it's
just such a weird dynamic, the amount of jealousy and pettiness,
and the league just doesn't have a shit together. That's
the only way I can say it.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Doug. We spent a good portion of the show on
this I think we read the show with it, and
it's a great SoundBite. This is a wonderful SoundBite, great
content for our business, but there are serious undertones. So
Tyreek Hill and Drew Rosenhouse yesterday I think both released
a statement asking for the job of the very uber
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aggressive cop in that whole situation. Today, Tyreek Hill actually
held a press conference to talk more about it. And
that's the problem I have. So, first of all, as
you heard on our show, he actually took responsibility for
his role in the whole thing, which is good. He's
listening to people that are telling them smart things. And
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then he was asked this, so you want the.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Officer gone, gone gone? He got to go, man because
in that instant right there, like, not only did he
do treat me bad, you know what I'm saying, he
also treated my teammates with you know, disrespect. You know,
he had some crazy words towards them and they ain't
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even doing nothing, Like what did they do to you?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
They just walking on the sidewalk.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
So I don't know, bro, he gotta go, man like,
and not too many times that tee to say people
gotta go. But you, oh, what are you saying why
or not gone.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Mm hmmmm mmm, Noko brandy.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So that's him making light of somebody's livelihood and asking
for the firing. And I'm guessing the police department will
we'll listen to the public sentiment and maybe fire the guy.
And that's sad, this is my problem.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Does it's awful?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And oh yeah, by the way, kind of made fun
of the fact that guy's Hispanic.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, not exactly right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, I'll say right now, Hey, Tyreek, fuck you, dude, seriously,
straight up fuck you. Okay, that guy has been on
the sport for twenty seven years. I agree. I thought
he's a little a little over the top in his
aggressiveness a little bit okay, but again taking it saying, hey,
it's part of it's my bad, Like no, no, no,
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you don't understand. Okay, this guy's worked in the Miami
Police Department for twenty seven years. I'm sure there's been
plenty of douchebags who didn't want to roll down the window,
who had tinted windows, who had guns in the car,
like you have no fucking clue. Oh, I mean true,
my teammates with disrespect. Dude, you don't roll up on
police officers doing their job, leaving your car parked illegally.
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I'm not saying class Campbell's a bad guy, but it
wasn't a really smart move. Wasn't a smart move, okay,
And like again, all of it could have been avoided
if you watch, and I've seen all of the videos
which continue to come out, including where he was going
sixty They estimated sixty. And by the way, for people
who are questioning a cop estimating sixty miles an hour,
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I have zero doubt that he's probably about right with
his with his sight. He was way faster than everybody
else and they just pulled him over, and he's just
going to get a ticket. Just go my bad. I
was speeding beause they get to work. I apologized to you.
That's how you handle it, that's the de escalization that's
needed and everything else. And again, I do think that
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police officer was a little over the top. I do
not know, and I think we all share it. We
shared this, Jason in terms of a thought, but like
calling for the firing officer, like I don't Tyreek Hill's
too fucking stupid to understand the shit. Let's just be honest.
He's a fucking dumbass. He said a million dumb things before,
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because he's not a particular smart human being. I didn't
say he's a bad person, although beating the shit out
of the mother of your child makes you a bad
person in everybody's eyes. All of that said, he's not
very bright. So what I think he thinks is because again,
here's the guy dumb enough to say, third person, here's
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the guy dumb enough to say he wants to be
a cop. You're not gonna be a cop when you
beat up your fucking girlfriend. Okay, here's the guy who's like,
my mom didn't raise me that way, dude, Come the
f on all the other stuff. But the biggest thing is,
this is not like the NFL, where you get cut
and you get picked up from a team. You spent
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twenty seven years of your life on the Miami Miami
Police Department force, like you don't. You don't get fired
and have a plan B. You go to like private security.
That's where you go next. He's got a pension, he's
probably got a family. Fuck you, dude, Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
If you're the h this was my point. If you're
a social justice warrior or one of the black leaders
in this cause do you want do you want to
hit your trailer to Tyrek Hill? Do you want him
carrying the torch? Hearing that SoundBite? Does that sound like
a serious man? I forget that lead character in that
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HBO TV show, Logan Roy. These are not serious people.
He's not a serious person. Cause you know, you know
for a fact that Tyreek Hill at some point is
going to have another run in with the cops. If
there's anything that I can guarantee in life, Tyreek Hill
is going to have another run in with the cops.
Do you really want to hit your trailer to this guy?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
No, not at all. I mean he's one incident away
from getting kicked out of the NFL anyway. Like, I
just I cannot believe we're to the point where, like
Tyreek Hill, like, let this is one you need to
let go, buddy, let it go.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Quit while you're ahead, I guess, is it yet? I
mean he was ahead because he got all that public
sentiment afterwards. Quit don't call for a guy's job. Now,
you're just become an asshole. So the quality of play
in the NFL versus the ratings, the WNBA commissioner versus
the WNBA pa Head and then Tyreek Hill's comments.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think Tyreek kills. I just it's annoying, you know.
Like I've said this before, Tyreek Hill is a brilliant
football player. He's an amazing football player. He is not
a great He doesn't we should never listen to what
he says about life. He's just not a particularly bright dude,
and doesn't mean he's not an enjoyable dude. I'm sure
guys people like being around him, but that doesn't He's
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does not the guy to follow, and the Dolphins keep
trotting him out there as if he's some fucking saint
angel like everybody else sees through this. I just I
don't like destroying a police officer's life when he was
simply trying to go home to his wife and kids.
Were they over the top? Yeah, there's a there's a
difference between hey man, a little bit too much, right,
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and let's fire the guy when he's been on the
force for twenty seven years. So Tyreek Hill, you're.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Let's see, here's your guy, Mike Gunda, you said this
on Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're like the gut on a few good men.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When I looked back on it on Sunday from the sideline,
it looked like some of their receivers were just running
wide open.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
But when you go back and look on tape, it.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Wasn't that bad. They guys were in the vicinity and
they've made good place. They have pretty good guys at receivers.
Speaker 12 (38:28):
Well you're a homer is the first part. Because they
were running wide open. You're wanting to make it look better,
and honestly, they were running wide open. Now, well it's
all right, we're honest here. I mean, I mean, there's
no reason anybody should come to these press conferences.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
We're going to bullshit each other. I love it. I mean,
I love it Mike, And look, I was critical of
Mike early this year for me with the Ali Gordon thing.
I just I thought I didn't think it was right.
But Mike's awesome. And the guy who's talking to is
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Robert Allen, who is in fact a homer. And I
just love everyone. I know when Oklahoma loves that shit
that he's like, well you're a homer, then he is.
I mean, Robert does a sideline forever, he does a
local radio show. He's among the best dudes I've ever
been around and just loving his university and people around it,
and you know, trying to give The guy said, well,
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you know, I don't know if they're really run wide open,
but Gundy is in the Spurrier zone, and the Spurrier
zone is very simple where you can get away and
say when shit, whatever you want, because I mean, who's
going to challenge you?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What he's built at Oklhom State is nothing shortan miraculous
Why couldn't play for you because we can't? All Right,
that's it for the in the Modus podcast. Check out
the radio show every day three to six Eastern twelve
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Doug Gotlieb
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in. This is a
sports show and I want to take a sports perspective
on it. Last night, I we had a we had
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a dinner with our Phoenix Fund, that's our foundation for
our university. Was awesome, and I came home and I
watched the debate and I think, let me let me
draw the let me draw the sports parallel to it,
because today former President Trump went on on Fox News
(01:00):
and said that he thought it was a rigged, a
rig debate, that maybe she had the answers, and like,
we're back in the same shit. And then last night
there's a story out there that he said lost by
a whisker. He didn't want to own the lost. He
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still continues to think that the election was taken from him.
I don't use my platform for political gain or whatever.
And I know that there's many of you who will
tweet me after this that a listener, I didn't want you,
(01:45):
then sorry, I didn't want you, then don't need you.
And it's not because of any other reason, because I
will give you that there are there are policy things.
There is you know, there's always we talk about always
flip flopping, and the truth is just once. I want
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a politician to say, like, you know, I thought one
way for a long time and then I changed my
mind because I saw it a different way. And here's
why I saw it a different way. I've never heard
of politician say that, you know. I think Josh Shapiro,
I think is his name, jos Shapiro, when asked about
a paper he wrote when he was in college, he
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sort of said that he was like I was twenty
at the time. He was talking about an Israel. He
wrote about Israel. So I do think that Kamala Harris
very very easily on some of these issues, which you
can evolve on issues, you can change on issues. And
by the way, she can disagree with your boss. And
that's part of it, you know, he's just like, why
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haven't you done this? Like you can disagree with your boss,
You're allowed to. He's still the boss. He gets to
call the shots. Any of us who have had bosses,
I have bosses now. They say to do something, but
I find it it's a lot like when you lead
with the refs, the refs, the refs, the refs, the refs,
the restaurant to get it's the reft is wrong, the
rest were That's what he sounds like. And Jay I
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was riveted to what I was watching, and I just
I look around, and I go, I I look, do
I understand? Look, I was for a period of time,
I was a dual citizen with Israel. Okay, do I
think a more heavy handed, completely one percent all in
backing Israel approach is the right approach?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, But I also know that it doesn't matter who's president.
We're not bailing on Israel. We're not, you know, I
just don't know how anybody could watch last night and
go like, yep, that's the guy. I don't understand. I
need somebody to explain it to me, because it's so
(03:55):
it's literally the exact same lines, only he changes out
who it is. Everybody outside of him is corrupt, everybody
outside of him is trying to get him. Everybody's an
idiot except for him. And he didn't actually lose, and
he's never done anything wrong. Like, it's just it's too much.
(04:16):
And again, I was sitting here talking with a friend
of mine and he was just like we were watching
Fox News, and he pops up and he hops on
and like, look he like even last night, anyone who
watched the debate, it's like he did not win that debate. Now,
if you wanted to go to the old well, he's
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not a professional politician. He's not a debater that somebody does. Fine,
you know, fine. His lack of preperedness is just he
doesn't give a shit, you know. His inability or lack
of desire to prepare for for the debate is it's
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a lot like what I tell I've told my own
son this. I tell my players this as well. Like
if they're not working on their shooting and then they
miss a big shot, or they miss shots or they
don't get a chance to take shots because I know
they haven't been working, you can't get mad. I do
this with golf, Like I don't get mad when I'm
bad at golf. Why I don't practice golf. I go
ahead and play. I try to have a good time.
It's super fucking frustrating, right, it's the old adage. Why
(05:28):
they name it golf because goddamn motherfucker was already taken,
or they was too big to call it a sport
well or every other four letter word was taken. Whatever.
The fact is, golf is hard, it's frustrating, and so
for the most part, what I maintain in my balance
is like, hey, man, I don't practice enough. I don't
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give a shit enough, so I'm not gonna get mad
when I hit one stray into the woods or even
have a day where I'm in my pocket half the day. Right,
same thing for him, like he should walk around today
and be like, yeah, whatever, debate doesn't matter. I didn't
put that much into it. I don't care. But he's
the worst guy, and I've had this. Why so my
son gets mad or missing shots and games like, well,
did you take a thousand shots during the week, Well,
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then how do you expect to make him on the weekend? Right,
doesn't magically happen. I'd expect to win a debate if
you don't prepare for that debate. But I don't know, man,
I just there's a lot of things that you can say,
and I know how people are like, she did some
gray area stuff, which they all do, and people are like, well,
(06:35):
why did the ABC people not because he said they're
eating cats and dogs, which is like a made up
internet story, which is his whole thing, Like he believed
that Obama wasn't born in the United States. Why because
it's a made up Internet story, Like he literally trolls
the internet, finds the story and then tells it to
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his people, and everybody believes it to be true. And
I just don't understand how that. I don't know how
that's good to be president of the United States. Can you
help me out, Jay, Like, I understand there's parts of
the policies of the current White House the Democrats, which
you really really don't like. And I'm with you, but
we only have two choices, and I don't understand how
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that's even a possible choice.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to speak for myself
because I literally am undecided. I've gotten text messages from
Kamala Harris to prove that I'm undecided and independent. But
I will tell you what I listened to way too
much political commentary. I listened to too many podcasts. My
Twitter feed is filled with it. And I'll tell you
(07:40):
what the answer is to your question. You could accept
this or not. The answer is that there are magas
that are going to vote for Trump regardless.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No question. There's about forty what is about forty two
to forty four percent of the people are going to vote.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
For him, correct, I think I think what they said
was twenty five percent of the people are never going
to vote for her, and twenty five percent of the
people are never going to vote for him, and it's
all about what to do with everyone else in the middle.
So the Conservatives that are still going to vote Trump
remove the candidate from the equation and they're strictly voting
(08:19):
on the policies of the policies, I mean, the policies
of the party, and that they remove the candidate from
the equation. Trump is so offensive though, that he really
tests that because as much as you might trust a
Republican policy, he might go rogue at any point. I
(08:40):
know that scares the shit out of his own party.
And the answer, also Doug, is how could you still
vote for Trump? Because I hate the other side that much?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But but again, it's not the way that government works
like the president is. Do they dictate some policy, Yeah,
but they're a figurehead a representation of it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If that's the case, then then Trump won't won't ruin
democracy like everyone says either, right, Neither of them are
going to ruin democracy?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, but what was done? I mean, you know, protesting
and having a riot after instead and telling your vice
president not to certify an election which was a viable,
certifiable election. Is that that's the ruining democracy, the threats
and the fact that we know they're going to protest,
they lose again, like it's going to happen, Like that's
(09:35):
not how it works. And this is here's the sports parallel.
This is why handshake line. This is why wrestling is
the greco Roman Wrestling is the greatest sport ever invented.
It's just two guys entering way the same do you
have whatever style you want, right, and then when you're done,
you go over, you shake the other coach's hands, and
then you have to stand there, you know, and they
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raise the hand of the winner, and then you have
to shake their hands. That's what That's what sorry, and
this is not to be shown. Is that's what a
man is supposed to do. I think it's the biggest
bullshit pussy thing ever that four years removed from it,
he can't just go like, yeah, lost, I'm gonna win
this one. I lost that last one. Instead, it just
(10:17):
sounds like the guy who four years ago, lost like, yeah,
the ref screwed me, like yeat, No, they really didn't,
Like there's video evidence that you stepped out of bounds,
are buddy? I mean, I don't know. It's so bad.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I just.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's so bad. I don't know. And again, I thought
she was super impressive, and she should be. She was
a former prosecutor and she had she was a little
nervous at the start, a grace ease, and she dangled
a little bit of chum in the water for him
and he took he bit every bait that It was
pretty masterful.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It just seemed like like there was an adult and
then there was a child and she.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't think he felt like a child. I think
he just he seemed very angry.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It took every bit of bait she put out there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, it was really. I mean, it's really and and
that is there's a sport to it. Did you know.
I was on the debate team when I was in
and and now The style that I learned was it's
a little different. But it's basically like, if what you
say is true, and you could use this against him
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all the time, right, if what you say is true,
well then why isn't this true? And yeah, I mean
it's it's fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
She took a question, I think this was it. She
took a question that you were put in charge of
finding out the root, the root problem of immigration, do you,
you know, take any responsibility for what's happened to the border,
and she's she literally had the balls to say this,
have you been to Trump's rallies. I've welcome you all
(12:09):
to go to Trump's rallies. They leave early because they
get bored. Everyone's bored with what he's saying. In other words,
she didn't answer to the question at all. She went
right to the rallies, and then Trump, like a child,
took the bait. He took the bait.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, instead of going like no, no, no, I'll give her
some more time she can explain it. On the other hand,
there is the easy exit, which is the you know,
he had them kill the bill, and I guess by
the numbers immigrations. Actually it was actually skyrocketed when he
came in office. But it's a problem. It needs to
(12:47):
be fixed. Republicans are blocking any sort of action. You know,
President Biden never gave an executive order, not that that
actually does anything because Trump would do them all the time.
It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but yeah, you're right, he
just he didn't. He couldn't control his aggression and his
defensive nature and instead, you know, couldn't put her on
(13:11):
the perial hot seat. And now it's like she wants
to debate again, and there's still those topics which he
can seize upon. But like, dude, another couple of hours
of him in front of the camera getting clearly angry
and just getting dismantled by it again, Like here's the
here's the part that I just wish that she would
use talking about debate techniques. Right, What is he said
(13:34):
about her this entire time that she's not very bright? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Correct? Yep?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So I just love like you can use the if,
and I thought Biden should use this last time. If
I'm not very bright, that's fine your entire your opinion,
And everybody says I dominated you in a debate, What
does that say about you? You know I actually lean
into their criticism, right, But I mean that's my right.
So I studied up a bunch, I prepared, I got
(14:02):
to get a night rest, and I dominated glass. What
does that say about you? But look, I'm not saying
she's a perfect candidate.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
She's not. But I thought last night was remember the
impresitive the Biden meltdown, the famous Biden meltdown debate that
sucked up all the oxygen in the media right after
the debate and until they were able to remove the
guy people like this. The second thought was always, but
(14:34):
Trump had a bad debate too, Like he lied the
entire time, but the you know, they were so preoccupied
with removing the the current president, that it was like
people kind of forgot Trump sucked on that debate as well.
It just wasn't the political meltdown the bidle.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, he was, he was bad. He was bad, but
but but Biden was worse. Biden was just so out
to lunch. That was the issue there.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So I don't know why you would agree to a
third debate because he's basically over too if you take
that whole Biden thing out of it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yep, yes, yes, indeed.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Let's get to the Buck set. And now I'd say
every day this time and the Doug Gottlieb Show in
the Bonus podcast we played for a previous portion of
Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports Ones shows, This is
Dan Patrick and Jim Harball. They had this exchange.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who has it better than we do? Nobody? How about that?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
We're getting a lot of mileage out of that. That
story you told us when you and your brother and
sister are walking what a mile to wherever? And your
dad made it seem like you got the greatest life
from the world.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
They sure did. Dan came out one day. We're living
in Iowa City, Iowa. We had we had a dealer car,
but for some reason, that dealer car wasn't there that day,
and uh, my dad said, no car today. Boys, we're walking.
John grab a basketball hundred with the right, then a
hundred with the left. Jim get a basketball hundred with
(16:15):
the right, hundred with the left.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
We're walking. Who's got it us?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nobody? Dead body?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Now do you say that if you say that to
your team, do they They look at you and go, Okay,
I don't know what this means, but you certainly seem
enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It's it's the Uh, there's a couple of layers of it. Uh,
you know, the it's just a way of looking at something, right,
I mean, who's got it better than us? Nobody? That's
a perspective. And then it also has the layer of
there's there's of ankle weights of you know, sometimes you
don't think you have it good or somebody else has
(16:57):
got it better, but it's actually the thing that's that's
you know, making you overcome something that makes you better.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I love it, I truly do well. I talk about
this with my team all the time. It's the old
your worst day is somebody else's best day. So I
personally really like Jim Harball. I know he's he's a
bit of a different dude. I get the catching the
ball and throwing the ball with wide receiver gloves and
(17:26):
the khakis and like he's but I just I love
that with his dad, you know, love that with his dad.
Like Hunter with the left, Hunter with the right, Like
it's the best. It's make lemons out of lemonade. I
mean to make the lemonade out of lemons. So I
can't tell you how much I like that. Plus he's
(17:46):
coaching the Chargers. They look competently coached in harball. We trust.
Here's Ready quinnin talking about playing a n D.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Everyone tells you when you're there, like you really don't
understand the matitude of Notre Dame until you leave, And
it's true, you know, you don't understand the reach it has.
You don't understand the poll it has, how people identify you.
And for the guys that choose the go threat of
high school, I feel like they oftentimes have a better
feeling for what they're signing up for, maybe not fully
(18:13):
being aware of it, but having a pretty good sense
as opposed to in the world of NIL when when
guys come from different schools, they really don't know, especially
if they're only going to be there for a year.
So it's like it's almost as if like they had
this other college experience and then they go to this
and they're like, WHOA, this is really different, Like I
don't you know, I haven't been in a program that's
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like kind of training me prepared me to adapt to this,
and it's very, very different. So I think that approach
is difficult for every transfer that comes in to be
on the big stage like that, and the national attention
that comes along with it. I think the mentality is
you have to understand everyone's always going to give you
(18:54):
their best shot because you're Notre Dame. And it's going
to sound biased because I'm a Notre Dame man, but
I experienced that. I understand the trash talk that I
heard being in that stadium, being on that field, and
the things people would say and the things they talk about.
How you would get teams that would come in there
and say, like, hey man, we're making history today.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's one of those things where Notre Dame still carries
a bunch of weight. It just does. And you heard
Thomas Hammock, the head coach of Northern Illinois, on our
radio show, and you can hear it later on the podcast.
And it still means a lot, a lot. It's still
Notre Dame. It's still Touchdown Jesus is still the four Horsemen,
It's still New Rockney, It's still really really special. Here's
(19:42):
Colin Callhert talking about Colorado football.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I've called IOWA the fake id of college football. They'd
win eight or nine games, argue they should be in
a major Bowl of the playoff because they beat up
on directional schools out of conference, maybe Purdue, and then
go get shelled against the big boy. But you can
only have a fake ID for so long. At some
(20:05):
point you're twenty one and can drink legally. So I'm
you know, it's time for a new fake ID of
college football.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know somebody that is.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
New on campus, talking a big game, little thirsty and
not of legal age, kind of a poser, and I
think it's Colorado. Deon Sanders is the new fake ID
of college football.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
A lot of talk, a lot of hat, no cattle.
I mean, at least Iowa could hold their liquor. These
guys are vomiting on themselves after a margarita.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's bad.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
They've lost seven straight games to FBS teams, worst run
offense in America. Can't defend the run, can't play defense,
tackle poorly. I mean, at least Iowa wore a collared
shirt and sort of played the part. Maybe they can
match up with Michigan. Colorado can't even compete.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
A phenomenal phenomenal You know, there's a lot of people.
When I was hired, I'm sure a lot of people thought, oh,
Dion Sanders of it. And there's a lot of good
things that Dion's done. But what you have to do
is you have to have substance. And I'll also point
out that I feel a little bit of empathy towards
Dion only in that when you're trying to flip a program,
it's hard. I mean, look, look, Lincoln Riley is as
(21:27):
good a coach as there is in the country, but
when things are run down, it's very, very difficult to
build them up. Their issue has not been with their failures,
it's how they've handled their failures, the blame that they've
laid on everybody except for themselves, and that's just you know,
with Dion, it's always like most college programs, it's about Dion,
(21:48):
but there's no accountability when things don't go well from Dion.
Now they play Colorado State, who there was an incredibly physical,
tough game last year, and this is the game that
they've been waiting on. This is their super Bowl. You
lose this one, you're going into Big twelve play Granted,
you could still technically make the College Foball Playoff, but
(22:10):
the likelihood when you start to sustain injuries to your
best players and you just get beaten up and you
lose some confidence. I think there's a chance that he
shuts down Travis Huder and Shador Sanders before the season
is done. There's as good a chance as that as
there is of them winning the Big Twelve title. I
wouldn't go as far as to say, like, I think
(22:32):
Iowa actually I think it's bullshit what he said about Iowa.
I'm just here's why it's bullshit. Okay, Iowa knows exactly
who the fuck they are. They have never been. They
don't have what Ohio State has in terms of in
state talent, out of state reach, or the ability to
(22:53):
go and buy players, Like, hey, congratulations Ohio State for
getting the best roster ever. You spend fifteen fucking million dollars.
Maybe even more if you give that fifteen to twenty
million dollars to Iowa, they'd have that. Iowa knows exactly
who they are and do they do the best they
can with what they got. So Iowa since twenty thirteen
(23:13):
is average nine wins like in no world. And I
understand that came back from when they were undefeated and
they had close wins. And look, the truth is, Jim
Tressel's Ohio State I called them the Luckey's team, like
there are teams that are just luckier better than they
are actually good. But I just I think I was
a team of substance. I think Colorado is complete bullshit.
(23:38):
Therein lies the difference. That's what the Fox said, what
I'd say.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
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Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's find out what's annoying Jation Steward.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And now it's your annoy case.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Do what's annoying you, Hey, Doug. The ratings are out
for a week one average viewership twenty one million per game.
That's a record and it really flies in the face
of the fact that the product is not very entertaining
to watch. Troy y Aikman going into Monday Nights game was
(24:32):
asked about the low quality of play from Sunday's games.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
The topic you aproached a bit earlier.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Just quarterback play around the league, and then numbers, and
there's probably explanations for it, but there are only thirty
three touchdown passes week one. A couple of years ago,
it's sixty one half the league yesterday through for under
two hundred yards. I get people don't play in the preseason.
I get that, but that's not new and these numbers
just they jumped out on me, and I'm just interested
if you have some theory.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
As to watch well, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Partly, the fact that they don't play impacts things. You know,
they don't work together as often in the offseason or
in training camp as they once did because a lot
of players who simply aren't practicing because.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Of the fear factor of injury.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It's quite simply, Scott, the quarterback play yesterday was not
very good overall in general, not very good. There were
some really good performances, but I saw some really bad
quarterback play. Now you expect some of that from the rookies,
of course, but there were some guys who were veteran
players that just simply didn't play rong.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So proving my point, Doug, that NFL has reached the
Zuopa part of their existence, that they are putting out
a product as substandard and the public is not only
coming back in the same numbers, but what nineteen percent
more people watch games this Sunday, which is it's going
(25:53):
to be a contradiction I think I'm going to point
out all year the product on the field's not great,
but people are showing up in droves to watch zu Ropa.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah. I mean, like, look, they're doing this in themselves
by massively undervaluing the preseason, right, massively massively undervaluing the preseason,
and I you know, it's just so painfully, painfully obvious
what they're doing. And you know, you can't get ready
(26:22):
to play football until you play football.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I agree with Troy's assessment. I thought it was really
really poor quarterback play. I thought the level of play.
I don't think that the product is as unentertaining as
you leave it you want to believe, but I do
think that it was definitely there was a lot of rust.
(26:45):
What else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Something that Dan Dakich said a couple of months ago.
He's my favorite ghost that we have on the show.
I love dow and I think he said something that
you're not supposed to say out well, right, which is,
no one is more cabby than then? Was it women
about other women?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But it was my.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Last much less delicate than that. Yeah, and I agree
with them. And here's a great example. So Kathy Engelbert
is the commissioner of the WNBA. She went on a
national TV outlet last week and talked about the success
of the league this year and the big rivalry between
(27:23):
Reese and Clark.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Right now, we do sit at this intersection of culture
and sport and fashion and music. Like the WNBA players
are really looked at now as kind of cultural icons. True,
and when you have that, you have a lot of
attention on you. There's no more apathy. Everybody cares. It
is a little that bird magic moment if you recall
from nineteen seventy nine when those two rookies came in
(27:45):
from a big college rivalry, one white, one black, and
so we have that moment with these two.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But the one thing I know about.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Sports, you need rivalry. That's what makes people watch. They
want to watch games of consequence between rivals. They don't
want everybody being nice to one another. Social media is
different today than it was in nineteen seventy nine when
it didn't exist. But you know, I always tell the players,
you know I was told a long time ago, if
someone's typing something in and you wouldn't ask their advice,
ignore it. So it's it's a balance but certainly from
(28:13):
a marketing dollars. But corporate partners are stepping up to
endorse these players much much more so than they were
five years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So you think that what she just said is all true?
Who could possibly find anything wrong with what you just said?
Terry Jackson, the head of the WMBAPA, has a lot
of issues with what you just heard. Here's a highlight
of her release statement. This is not about rivalries or
iconic personalities fueling a business model. This kind of toxic
(28:45):
fandom should never be tolerated and left unchecked. It demands
immediate action and frankly, should have been addressed long ago.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's hilarious. What do I What do I even do
with that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It seems pretty simple to me, and the commissioner even
addressed this, like if you want to be famous, if
you want your business to grow and you want to
make more money with that becomes a lot of shit.
Ask any famous person. The more famous they got, the
more shit they got, and the more bad comments they got.
(29:27):
There's no way to legislate that. What you can do
if you're the head of the w n b A
b bp A, how about you do seminars on your players?
Being more thick skinned. How about you do seminars on
your players not focusing on social media because you're not
going to legislate the horrible racist comments that just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, you're you're just You're just not. I I just
it's one of those leagues where I although Kaylen Clark
continues to impress me and I think impress everybody, if
we're really honest with ourselves, we'll sit there and go
This league was not ready for the fame that it it,
and it had twenty six, twenty seven years to get
(30:10):
ready for it. They weren't ready for it because it's
been kind of a clown show, you know. I mean
even the fashion runway entrance, you know, outfits that many
of these women wear, and many of them are beautiful,
beautiful women, but even that seems kind of hacky.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's like, Hey, we going to do this because the
NBA does this, and we're going to It's just it's
just such a weird dynamic, the amount of jealousy and pettiness,
and the league just doesn't have a shit together. That's
the only way I can say it.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Doug. We spent a good portion of the show on
this I think we read the show with it, and
it's a great SoundBite. This is a wonderful SoundBite, great
content for our business, but there are serious undertones. So
Tyreek Hill and Drew Rosenhouse yesterday I think both released
a statement asking for the job of the very uber
(31:07):
aggressive cop in that whole situation. Today, Tyreek Hill actually
held a press conference to talk more about it. And
that's the problem I have. So, first of all, as
you heard on our show, he actually took responsibility for
his role in the whole thing, which is good. He's
listening to people that are telling them smart things. And
(31:28):
then he was asked this, so you want the.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Officer gone, gone gone? He got to go, man because
in that instant right there, like, not only did he
do treat me bad, you know what I'm saying, he
also treated my teammates with you know, disrespect. You know,
he had some crazy words towards them and they ain't
(31:53):
even doing nothing, Like what did they do to you?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
They just walking on the sidewalk.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
So I don't know, bro, he gotta go, man like,
and not too many times that tee to say people
gotta go. But you, oh, what are you saying why
or not gone.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Mm hmmmm mmm, Noko brandy.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So that's him making light of somebody's livelihood and asking
for the firing. And I'm guessing the police department will
we'll listen to the public sentiment and maybe fire the guy.
And that's sad, this is my problem.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Does it's awful?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And oh yeah, by the way, kind of made fun
of the fact that guy's Hispanic.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, not exactly right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, I'll say right now, Hey, Tyreek, fuck you, dude, seriously,
straight up fuck you. Okay, that guy has been on
the sport for twenty seven years. I agree. I thought
he's a little a little over the top in his
aggressiveness a little bit okay, but again taking it saying, hey,
it's part of it's my bad, Like no, no, no,
(32:56):
you don't understand. Okay, this guy's worked in the Miami
Police Department for twenty seven years. I'm sure there's been
plenty of douchebags who didn't want to roll down the window,
who had tinted windows, who had guns in the car,
like you have no fucking clue. Oh, I mean true,
my teammates with disrespect. Dude, you don't roll up on
police officers doing their job, leaving your car parked illegally.
(33:20):
I'm not saying class Campbell's a bad guy, but it
wasn't a really smart move. Wasn't a smart move, okay,
And like again, all of it could have been avoided
if you watch, and I've seen all of the videos
which continue to come out, including where he was going
sixty They estimated sixty. And by the way, for people
who are questioning a cop estimating sixty miles an hour,
(33:43):
I have zero doubt that he's probably about right with
his with his sight. He was way faster than everybody
else and they just pulled him over, and he's just
going to get a ticket. Just go my bad. I
was speeding beause they get to work. I apologized to you.
That's how you handle it, that's the de escalization that's
needed and everything else. And again, I do think that
(34:05):
police officer was a little over the top. I do
not know, and I think we all share it. We
shared this, Jason in terms of a thought, but like
calling for the firing officer, like I don't Tyreek Hill's
too fucking stupid to understand the shit. Let's just be honest.
He's a fucking dumbass. He said a million dumb things before,
(34:26):
because he's not a particular smart human being. I didn't
say he's a bad person, although beating the shit out
of the mother of your child makes you a bad
person in everybody's eyes. All of that said, he's not
very bright. So what I think he thinks is because again,
here's the guy dumb enough to say, third person, here's
(34:46):
the guy dumb enough to say he wants to be
a cop. You're not gonna be a cop when you
beat up your fucking girlfriend. Okay, here's the guy who's like,
my mom didn't raise me that way, dude, Come the
f on all the other stuff. But the biggest thing is,
this is not like the NFL, where you get cut
and you get picked up from a team. You spent
(35:07):
twenty seven years of your life on the Miami Miami
Police Department force, like you don't. You don't get fired
and have a plan B. You go to like private security.
That's where you go next. He's got a pension, he's
probably got a family. Fuck you, dude, Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
If you're the h this was my point. If you're
a social justice warrior or one of the black leaders
in this cause do you want do you want to
hit your trailer to Tyrek Hill? Do you want him
carrying the torch? Hearing that SoundBite? Does that sound like
a serious man? I forget that lead character in that
(35:52):
HBO TV show, Logan Roy. These are not serious people.
He's not a serious person. Cause you know, you know
for a fact that Tyreek Hill at some point is
going to have another run in with the cops. If
there's anything that I can guarantee in life, Tyreek Hill
is going to have another run in with the cops.
Do you really want to hit your trailer to this guy?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
No, not at all. I mean he's one incident away
from getting kicked out of the NFL anyway. Like, I
just I cannot believe we're to the point where, like
Tyreek Hill, like, let this is one you need to
let go, buddy, let it go.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Quit while you're ahead, I guess, is it yet? I
mean he was ahead because he got all that public
sentiment afterwards. Quit don't call for a guy's job. Now,
you're just become an asshole. So the quality of play
in the NFL versus the ratings, the WNBA commissioner versus
the WNBA pa Head and then Tyreek Hill's comments.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think Tyreek kills. I just it's annoying, you know.
Like I've said this before, Tyreek Hill is a brilliant
football player. He's an amazing football player. He is not
a great He doesn't we should never listen to what
he says about life. He's just not a particularly bright dude,
and doesn't mean he's not an enjoyable dude. I'm sure
guys people like being around him, but that doesn't He's
(37:21):
does not the guy to follow, and the Dolphins keep
trotting him out there as if he's some fucking saint
angel like everybody else sees through this. I just I
don't like destroying a police officer's life when he was
simply trying to go home to his wife and kids.
Were they over the top? Yeah, there's a there's a
difference between hey man, a little bit too much, right,
(37:43):
and let's fire the guy when he's been on the
force for twenty seven years. So Tyreek Hill, you're.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Let's see, here's your guy, Mike Gunda, you said this
on Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're like the gut on a few good men.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When I looked back on it on Sunday from the sideline,
it looked like some of their receivers were just running
wide open.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
But when you go back and look on tape, it.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Wasn't that bad. They guys were in the vicinity and
they've made good place. They have pretty good guys at receivers.
Speaker 12 (38:28):
Well you're a homer is the first part. Because they
were running wide open. You're wanting to make it look better,
and honestly, they were running wide open. Now, well it's
all right, we're honest here. I mean, I mean, there's
no reason anybody should come to these press conferences.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
We're going to bullshit each other. I love it. I mean,
I love it Mike, And look, I was critical of
Mike early this year for me with the Ali Gordon thing.
I just I thought I didn't think it was right.
But Mike's awesome. And the guy who's talking to is
(39:07):
Robert Allen, who is in fact a homer. And I
just love everyone. I know when Oklahoma loves that shit
that he's like, well you're a homer, then he is.
I mean, Robert does a sideline forever, he does a
local radio show. He's among the best dudes I've ever
been around and just loving his university and people around it,
and you know, trying to give The guy said, well,
(39:29):
you know, I don't know if they're really run wide open,
but Gundy is in the Spurrier zone, and the Spurrier
zone is very simple where you can get away and
say when shit, whatever you want, because I mean, who's
going to challenge you?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
What he's built at Oklhom State is nothing shortan miraculous
Why couldn't play for you because we can't? All Right,
that's it for the in the Modus podcast. Check out
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