October 17, 2024 • 30 mins
Doug riffs on the Dodgers beating up on the Mets in game three. Doug welcomes Kelley Ford of KFordRatings.com to go over the weekend of college football. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take on the Heisman Trophy race. Plus, Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, in the Bonus, Fox Sports forty, I
Heart Radio. Welcome, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I was watched in last night Jase dow and I
have you know, I have so many friends that are
Mets fans, and then obviously you and a couple of
friends are Dodger fans. And this has become a really
weird series. We're only three games in Dodgers two blowouts,
and they had chances in Game two. But it's really
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interesting here, right, like, look what the Dodgers have done.
They've won four of their life last five games. And
oh yeah, by the way, pitching was supposed to be
a question for the Dodgers. They haven't allowed a run
in all four of those games. Not a run. So
I guess my question to you, JASEU, is what's your
level of confidence? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think that there's a a large level of confidence
to win this series. I just think that there's a
They've figured out a formula. And it kind of pains
me because I'm giving credit to Andrew Friedman here. For
many years I have said that. I think that it
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has always been more important to Andrew Friedman to win
his way than to just win. And he's come up
with this formula to become the first team to ever
win a World Series with no dominant starters, starters not
even going into the fifth or sixth inning, and this
will be his signature formula. So he's figured it out.
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And I think the Mets should be easy pasy here,
and then you get get around to maybe a Yankees
team that's a real, real sloppy but I think more
formative hitters. But I like our chances in this series.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I like that you say our chances. I think that's
fun too.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You know, I take ownership, You do take.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Ownership, You do take ownership. Is the world ready? Is
the world ready for a uh? For a Dodgers Yankees
World Series? And the hype that would follow. I think
it'd be great for the sport.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think undoubtedly it will. What the last time was
nineteen eighty one, they played a couple of times in
the seventies. It's like what I've been saying the last
couple of years is that this the the league has
been going out of its way to try to attract
younger people in a lot of ways, shape and form.
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And one of the ways they did this was including
all these playoff teams, making it almost impossible for the
two best teams to meet each other. So this would
be just an old school matchup. I think for fans
like me, like diehard fans, middle aged fans like I
don't know how how much it'll captivate the twenty somethings.
I have no idea, but it will definitely generate or
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bring back the people that have always loved the game.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, yeah, no question, no questions asked. And then
of course you know we're going to see a Reggie
Jackson highlight right like the flashbacks. You know you'll see
is Reggie Jackson hitting three home runs in a game,
no doubt. Do you think any differently of show? Hey, now.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
There Shoheo. Tani is having one of the most statistically
unique postseasons of all time. If you look at his stats,
and this is really strange, He's something like seven for nineteen,
seventeen for nineteen in his last nineteen at bath with
runners in scoring position. That just doesn't sound right. I
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know that goes back into the regular season, the postseason
stat is this, he is over when he has nobody
on base. When there's someone on base, he's hitting like
seven hundred. It's just statistically such an anomaly. The problem is,
I guess, is that why lead him off? If he
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is over leading off? But I don't know. I don't
fuck with anything right now, but show Hey, I think
that Horme Mune last night kind of got him going,
and we're gonna see a couple more of those before
the series over.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, I don't think there's any doubt, no doubt at
all that he once he gets into a groove and
gets his rhythm and oh yeah, by the way, everybody else,
you know, everybody else around him, every else around him
hitting then yeah, I mean I think then he's going
to see more baseballs as well.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Kyk Munsey unbelievable. The guy who has the best average
in these playoffs is what can I think of our shortstops?
Name the Edmund that we got from the Cardinals, Edmund
at the bottom of the order, Like that makes all
the difference.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh, I think there's no question, no question it makes
the difference. But key K is like ridiculous how good
he is in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
He's actually been on our team the entire season, and that,
for whatever reason doesn't doesn't resonate with me. He was
on the team the entire season. I thought he came
over this year. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think it was last year he came over. He
came back to the Dodgers, and he kind of he
kind of like he was like it was like cam
for no money at all. There's just some of those
guys that they pop up in the playoffs and you're like,
this guy's good in the playoffs, and you make the
assumption that they're good players and they're really not. That's
really kind of what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
True.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
At s Doug out Leeby Show here on Fox Sports.
Treddy and Let's Welcome Many joins us for his weekly visit.
He's Kelly Ford kfod ratings dot Com and of course
you can follow him on Twitter as well. He's the owner,
he's a proprietor. He's the one who understands the analytics.
What's changed with the college football playoff from last week
to this week.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Kelly, Yeah, Doug, we're getting down to it here, closer
and closer to November and December. For me, we've seen
some contenders fall off, but really some unexpected teams that
have risen. Of course, you've got you know, Oregon, Ohio State,
Penn State out of the Big ten and the SEC, Alabama,
Georgia texted Texas, A and M is a team that
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is surging in their chances to reach the collegeball Playoff.
For me and the ACC, it's cleansing in Miami. But
the surprises here maybe out of the Big twelve, Iowa
State now has a seventy plus percent chance to make
the college football Playoff or at least be in the
at large conversation by my numbers and BYU is that
a sixty plus percent chance to be in that conversation
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as well. Indiana still lurking around as a surprise team
for many, with a thirty plus percent chance. So there
are a lot of contenders we knew there would be
this first year of the twelve team playoff, more teams
in it late in the year, but some of the
surprise characters that we haven't seen really sniffed the CFP conversation.
In the last ten years have made their presence known,
which has made it pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, Organs takedown of Ohio State, how'd that affect the
Big Board?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It sounds bad, Doug, but to be honest, it really didn't.
It hasn't expected things too much from me. Right now,
if you look at the projected Big Ten standings for me,
I still have the same two teams projected to make
it to Indianapolis, and that is Oregon and Ohio State.
If you look at the power ratings, I still have
Ohio State as a better power rated team than Oregon,
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so my numbers still favor Ohio State in that game.
Both of these teams continue to be strong candidates for
the Costwall playoff, of course, and right now, even though
Ohio State lost that game on the road, I still
have the Buckeyes as a favorite to win the Big Ten. Oregan, though,
has the better chance to make it to Indianapolis at
this stage.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, man, there's a lot to get into here. There's
just so many different games. Let's start to talk about
this weekend's games. I am fascinated fascinated by Bama Tennessee
so Bama beat Georgia, loses the Vandy almost lose to
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South Carolina. They're a favorite on the road at Tennessee.
How much slack do they have? How many games can
Bama lose and still get in the College Fall playoff?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So I'm very fascinated by this game as well as
I think it might be the most intriguing game of
the entire weekend. It's got a nine point nine watchability
score out of ten for me. And before I directly
answer your question, I want to set the stage for
this game, because yes, these are two very highly power
rated teams. Alabama's number three in my power rating, Tennessee's
number seven in my power ratings. I actually have Tennessee
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as a very flight favorite in this game of fifty
three percent win expectancy because they are at home. However,
what I want to talk about here for these two
teams and Doug. If you go on the website Day
four ratings dot Com and go to the projections tab,
I have the team dashboard for all one hundred and
thirty fourteen. In the bottom left of that projection tab
or of the graphic is a form section and it
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tells you how has the Power Rating Model changed on
this team in the last week, the last two weeks,
the last month, and over the course of the season.
If you look at the last two weeks for these
two teams, for Tennessee, that's the overtime winn against Florida
and a five point loss on the road at Arkansas.
For Alabama, that's a two point win that gets home
against South Carolina and a five point loss on the
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road to Vanderbilt. Over the last two weeks, Alabama's been
downgraded by the model more than five points. They have
been downgraded more than any team in the country over
the last two weeks. Final Model in Tennessee, they're nearly
four points down. That's number one hundred and twenty eight
out of one hundred and thirty fourteen. So both of
these teams in the bottom you know, five or six
in terms of their form the last two weeks. I
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think that's very, very intriguing for two teams that are
still in the top ten of the power ratings. To
answer your question, I think Tennessee needs this game more.
I think Tennessee needs to be at least ten and
two to be in that at large conversation, Alabama because
of the schedule they play. I think nine to three
is enough to get the Crimson tied in the conversation.
That doesn't mean they're guaranteed the spot. It means they're
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in the conversation on selection Sunday. So I think Tennessee
needs it more with both of these teams already have
it already having lost the game.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, it's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
There are some other games though, that are that are intriguing.
I think you would you definitely agree there in terms
of the college football playoff, like Georgia taking on Texas. Okay,
kind of same question for Georgia, right, you lose it.
Alabama became a close game, no problem, you lose it Texas? Okay?
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Is there a four and a half point underdog? Could
be no problem? But again, how much slack do they have?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
In my numbers, my numbers are really high on Texas
here dog. I've actually got this spread closer to ten
and a half for the Longhorns, which sounds absolutely crazy.
I do believe the number has been climbing in Vegas,
but certainly my model suggests there's quite a bit of
value on Texas in this game. With the line currently
right there, like you said, around four to four and
a half five, I do think that Georgia is starting
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to get in the mode of needing games. I still
think Georgia can lose this one, and because their schedule
is so difficult, it's actually the number one most difficult
schedule in the country with my numbers, even more difficult
than Florida's. Now that update happened here this week, I
still think Georgia is going to be okay. Even if
they get to nine to three. Georgia probably hasn't that
large case for Texas because their schedules easier, probably ten
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and two. So I do think, you know, both teams
maybe need this game, but both can still afford to
lose it. If you look at texas remaining schedule after
this at Texas, A and M is the only game
after this that my numbers assigned less than a ninety
two percent win expectancy for the Longhorns. So it should
quote unquote be smooth sailing for the Longhorns. We know
it's never actually goes to plan and talks football, but
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no game remaining on the schedule outside of maybe A
and M really scares Texas. If you look at Georgia
after this, I've got a forty two percent win expectancy
on the road at Ole Myth, a fifty nine percent
win expectancy at home against Tennessee. So Georgia's schedule is
very difficult. They can afford to lose this one. But
if they do, they really start looking over their shoulder, like, man,
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is there a possibility we might miss the collegewall playoffs?
Which would have seemed crazy to say just you know,
seven or eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Ago, would have been crazy to say, okay, what about
the Big Twelve? Where does that stand?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
The Big Twelve is a super fascinating conference for me
right now, and it's booed by you know, Iowa State
and BYU both being three and zero conference play. TECHNI
Tech fans will say, so are we, and they absolutely are.
Texas Tech maybe not on the same level as Iowa
State and BYU for power rating standpoint, and the schedule
sets up a little bit differently as well. But for me,
if you're looking at this Big twelve race, Iowa State, BYU,
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those are the favorites to make it to Arlington. Kansas State,
though continues to be among the better power rated teams
in this conference, and right now they are projecting the
finish third for me in this conference. Rate Texas Tech,
VIRGIIT or West Virginia excuse me, and maybe even Colorado
that lost this week hurt Colorado. Those are the teams
that are still in this mix for me. But Iowa
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State and BYU they are certainly the best position, being
undefeated in conference or.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
On the season.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I should say I have BYU right now number two
in my most Deserving ranking, so I don't think they're
the second best team in the country. I think they
have the second best resume today behind only Oregon. Iowa
States not far behind at number four in my Most
Deserving and doug These two teams do not play each
other in the regular season, so it is possible they
both make it to Arlington unscathed. I think the Big
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twelve's best chance to get multiple teams into the College
Wall playoffs would be for both of these teams to
make it to Arlington with no more than one loss.
One has to be undefeated, the other has one loss,
and then the one loss team beat the undefeated team
in Arlington. I think both of those resumes would be
worthy of inclusion in the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Awesome, awesome stuff Kford Ratings dot Com and at k
Ford Ratings that that's where you can find all of
this last thing. What would be the biggest surprise? You
talked about the Texas number being really way bigger than
what Vegas predicts. If I was looking at this weekend,
what should be the biggest surprise outcome. It doesn't have
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to be an upset in terms of the the amount
of points, in terms of differential based upon UH, based
upon your analytical data.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, so look at some of the best games the
week and the biggest games of the weekend, if you will.
You know, we've talked about Texas and Georgia. My numbers
are on the other side of the Tennessee Alabama line
from Vegas. It sounds like I'm also looking in the ACC.
You've got Miami going on the road to Louisville. That's
a really, really big game. Miami certainly still in the
mix for everything, being undefeated leading that conference. Louisvilleoe is
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a good team. I have them power rated number sixteen
despite some of the losses that they've picked up along
the way in the SEC. Another game to keep an
eye on. LSU fresh off of a very very big
win against Ole Miss. Now they're going on the road
to Arkansas in a rivalry game. Arkansas is a sneaky
good team this year. I've got them right now, number
twenty eight in the power ratings. They're four and two
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on the year. I don't think enough people are paying
attention to Arkansas that game at home in a rivalry
Those are two I'm keeping an eye on. And then
if you want to go to the Big twelve, and
it might as well be an elimination game at Kansas
State going on the road to West Virginia, that's going
to be really important for both.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Of these teams.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Kansas State for me, is the favorite here. They're number
twelve in the most Reserving rankings, their top twenty in
the Power ratings. But that's a tricky place to play
there in Morgantown, And so that's the game to keep
an eye on as well. I you host Nebraska, not
calling for the upset there, but I use a team
they haven't really been tested yet this year. Brass is
coming in with only one loss, So that's a big
game in the Big ten that maybe is a little
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bit under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Awesome stuff, Kelly. You have a great weekend. Thanks so
much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Thanks Doug, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
App let Let's get to what the Fox Says and
Now sators Dan Patrick talking with Fox Sports John Smoltz
on the starting pitching in the NLCS.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
And it used to be that we got geared up
for those starting pitchers and those matchups. That's not the
case anymore. But you know what the Dodgers got out
of Walker Bueller was a gift last night. You know
what is their It used to be they were, you know,
knee deep in pitching. Now they're not. So what is
their philosophy where the Mets do have good starting pitching?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, you really are reading two different books, right, You're
reading a book of traditional baseball by the Mets. That
carried them through the second half. They're starting pitching was fantastic.
They did a great job getting in deep into the games.
And then you've got a team beat up in the Dodgers,
where their rotation on paper in the beginning of the
year was phenomenal, and then everybody gets hurt. They don't
have any real options, so they typically would leave Walker
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Buehler in that game ninety nine percent of the time
in a regular season game. They just weren't going to
do it with the bullpen and the necessity to bank
that win. I hate it, you know, for Walker Buehler
because he did such an incredible job, especially rebounding from
San Diego, because every pitcher wants to be in there
when they haven't given up runs. But it's kind of
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the narrative that the Dodgers are playing by, and really
they haven't lost a game doing it yet, so until
they lose a game doing it that way, I don't
think they're going to change.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Great point. It's one of those where you don't have
to like how it looks, but the outcome does in
many ways support it. And oh yeah, by the way,
that's interesting about it. How many of you have done
this with the old RBI Baseball game or with MLB
the show. I know I have, right, So it's really
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video games come to life, and it's fascinating that it's
working in the sport at this level. Here's Joel Klatt
with Colin Cowher talking about the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
What's becoming more important than talent acquisition. Talent retention. Getting
your current players to stay in your program delivers continuity
and experience, and all of that continuity and experience allows
you to perform at your best in the biggest moments.
And that's what we're seeing from Texas. They are owning
the game really in the tempo of the game, and
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in large part they have been able to protect their
defense as well, which allows them to be the number
one scoring offense in the country and the number one
scoring defense in the country. So they're a complete team.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The talent retention is it's been akpe key. It's not
a new thing. I mean, it's a huge thing, especially
in sport like basketball. But having continuity. He went on
to talk about USC, whereas if USC can can bring
back some of these offensive linemens, some of the younger players,
that they'll be fine as well. I agree. I mean, look,
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Texas has done it by building it the right way.
They've gone out and gotten quarterbacks really good ones, spent
a bunch of money, but they've retained their line play
and gotten better and better and better over years. Here's
Brady Quinn talking about Colorado's Travis Hunter making the case
why he should win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Part of the issue is he's so good teams don't
really want to throw at him, so it's hard to
then have defensive stats. The offensive stats will be there,
but again, it hurts when he gets hurt. Here's the
problem with his entire premise and his discussion or argument. Okay,
he actually made the case for why Ashton Genty should
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win the Heisman. Okay, this is why Ashton Genty averages
ten yards per rushing attempt like that is one of
the most ridiculous stats and it's why he's in the
lead right now for the Heisman. Also a seventeen touchdown,
So yes, he's got one hundred and twenty six rushing attempts.
But that's kind of how it works, right, Like you
tend to run the football more and get more touches
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as a running back, and it's it's much harder, by
the way, to average of yards per carry like that.
Like in most cases, he is double some of the
best running backs in college football who are averaging four
or five yards per attempt, So I'm not sure that's
the best argument to be made for a Heisman candidacy.
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If your traffs Hunter to try to do a touch
for touch comparison.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, like, I just think that there's a
bunch of flaws to the Heisman Trophy. You have lots
of people who vote in the Heisman Trophy that are
local Yokol sports writers and I'm not trying to probably
saying local Yokol that sounds mean, But if you cover
a team, you're there a couple hours for the game,
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you watch the game, you report on the game, and
then maybe when you get home you get to watch
the games. Like the people who should be voting on
it are all the national analysts that watch all the football.
That's really who should And then you have to operate
on the premise, who's the best college football player in
the country. It's Travis Hunter. I don't think it's terribly close,
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but it is hard to quantify what he does, and
for some reason, if Colorado loses a couple more games,
it minimizes his effect. But he's an incredible, incredible player.
That's what the Fox says. What does say let's find
out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart, And now it's your annoying.
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What do you got, Jasu Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The Dodgers won last night, great win, fun win. We
talked about it on the radio. We'll talk about it again.
But I do want to point something out, and I
think that is a perfect example of how Major League
Baseball has always been slow to change. I mean, in
a lot of ways, it's the opposite of the NFL.
The NFL will clean shit up and address stuff. If
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it's either unpopular or the rule sucks, they'll change it.
Like last week. MLB will take years to do testing.
Let's do the minor league testing. Let's get it on
the major league level. But let's kind of let's slow
play this thing. Automated balls and strikes. If you took
the temperature, I think in most baseball fans they would
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say it should have been done years ago. I know
there are still those holdouts, people that want the human element.
I get it. I've never been in that camp. Because
the umpire union themselves should be complaining that there isn't
ABS yet, because it makes their union members look like
fools when we the viewers are seeing balls and strikes
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missed on a nightly basis. It's like TV's making fun
of your union members. And if ABS comes in, you're
not losing any jobs. The Homepoint Empire does a lot
of things during the game that isn't balls and strikes,
so there's not going to be any lost jobs. There's
really no reason not to do it. But last night,
this guy, Marvin Hudson, nobody knows his name. Nobody should
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know his name. But the reason why you know his
name now is because he was so swayed by the
framing of the Mets catcher Alvarez. Alvarez is a it's
like a little league catcher framer. In other words, he
takes balls like a foot outside and then he brings
it into the strike zone to see if he could
fool the umpire. You could fool little league umpires, you
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should never be able to fool major league umpires. But
on six or seven occasions last night he got strike
calls on his stupid framing. Again, you cannot make a
better case for why there should be automated balls and
strikes than that subjective bullshit last night by this Marvin
Hudson behind the plate.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, it so you know, it's interesting. I've talked to
so many baseball players and foreigner baseball players who agree
with you, like, what are we doing? The technology is there?
These guys aren't that good. And the worst part is
their egos are so sizable. Right, It's like one thing
to miss something, it's the other thing to be so
defensive about missing something. I agree, what else?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So I need Iowa Samon here because he's our Kaitlin
Clark correspondent. Now. He sent us a story on the
group text yesterday and I followed up on it a
little bit, So if you go back a little bit,
Kaitlin Clark was voted the Rookie of the Year almost unanimously,
with one holdout. I think there was like six seven votes.
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She got sixty six votes for Rookie of the Year.
So someone's just just being an asshole. Somebody's just it's
that one person in the room that when there's like
energy and everyone's agreen with something, that's a one person
in the room who's the devil's advocate. He's just the asshole.
And so yesterday the votes were revealed for all NBA
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All WNBA SAM and she was voted on to the team,
but it wasn't unanimous, and what were the details? There
was one hold out.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
How so there are sixty seven possible there are sixty
seven votes possible, and she got fifty two first team
all WNBA votes and got fourteen all WNBA's second team votes,
and one person left her off of either the first
or second team altogether. And maybe it's the same person.
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I don't know, but there is. There's definitely a rat
somewhere in this, in this selection.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And that's what's annoying. I'm just gonna, without any evidence
at all, was going to say it's the same person,
and that person's an asshole.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I wish I could disagree with you. Let me just
state this very clearly. If you think that Angel Reese
should have been the Rookie of the Year over Caitlin Clark,
then you're a fucking idiot. Okay, you're a fucking idiot.
You don't know anything about basketball. You should never vote
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on basketball. You're making about something that it's not about.
It's simply about the fact that any marker you want,
her team got much better. I don't even even get
into it, really simple, whoever you are, you don't know
anything about basketball period.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think this is a Spike thing too.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I don't know if it's just someone who's just like I.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Said, it can be a million different things. But you
know what, it's not about. It's not about who the
best rookie was in basketball. That was Caitlin Clark. That's it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Do we think it's the same person, Probably? Yeah, probably,
And I bet that it's the same person. I forget
his name on ESPN. I don't think it's him, but
Dennis Smith Junior or something this. Oh yeah, real woke guy.
He was the one who said that he doesn't care
if the ratings are like half in the WNA Finals
because he knows the right fans will be watching, you know,
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he wants the women empowered, you know, fans to be watching.
And last night I think i an Escu hit like
a game winner and it was an amazing w NBA
Finals game. But I can almost guarantee nobody really knows
that today. I know it because I have to come
through sports content every day. But it speaks to just
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how how much interest Kitlyn Clark brings to the game
when she's on the court. So I've said this many
times on this podcast. I've told you this that if I,
if or when I program a like a sports content network,
podcasting network, or network, I'm going to ban predictions. I
(28:03):
don't like predictions. I think they're lazy and they're like
empty calories. Listeners don't get anything out of it. So
I can't stand predictions. But you you are inclined to
put me on the spot with predictions. So yesterday, at
the very end of the show, you put me on
the spot. Who's gonna win Game three of the Dodgers.
(28:25):
How's it going to go tonight? It's going to be
Walker Buewer delivers for Dodgers and show. Hey, o'tani wakes
up in the LCS, look at you. So I like
predictions when I'm wow, there you go. I like that
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when I'm right.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I like, what's it?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What's annoying predictions that are wrong?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's annoying that I I I just fell into prediction
radio and got it right. I guess that's that's what's
annoying with No, that's it. So home plateed umpiring the
All NBA Voter and prediction radio when I'm right.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Prediction radio, when you're right, when you're wrong, excuse me
prediction radio. When you're wrong, you hate, and yeah I
do too, I really do as well. I can't find
any fault with hating true prediction radio. So prediction radio
when you're wrong, as a nice.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I do.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Walker Bueller, Walker Bueller, I know he only pitched four innings,
but he gave us an amazing four innings, got out
of a really tight jam against one of the best
hitters in baseball. And he had this to say after
the game about the Padres series start.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
I think the way Kik talks about our team having
some sort of confidence when I pitch regardless, I think
is kind of really the goal for any starting pitcher.
You know, there's the stats and free agency and all
of the shit, but I just want twenty five guys
in the locker room that believe that I give us
a really good chance to win. And if I've created
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that in our locker room somehow, that's that's probably what
I'll be the most proud of when I'm done.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Pretty solid, really really really really solid statement there from
Walker Buehler said, hero of the LA Dodgers, why can
we play for you? Because we can't. That's it for
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All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, in the Bonus, Fox Sports forty, I
Heart Radio. Welcome, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I was watched in last night Jase dow and I
have you know, I have so many friends that are
Mets fans, and then obviously you and a couple of
friends are Dodger fans. And this has become a really
weird series. We're only three games in Dodgers two blowouts,
and they had chances in Game two. But it's really
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interesting here, right, like, look what the Dodgers have done.
They've won four of their life last five games. And
oh yeah, by the way, pitching was supposed to be
a question for the Dodgers. They haven't allowed a run
in all four of those games. Not a run. So
I guess my question to you, JASEU, is what's your
level of confidence? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think that there's a a large level of confidence
to win this series. I just think that there's a
They've figured out a formula. And it kind of pains
me because I'm giving credit to Andrew Friedman here. For
many years I have said that. I think that it
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has always been more important to Andrew Friedman to win
his way than to just win. And he's come up
with this formula to become the first team to ever
win a World Series with no dominant starters, starters not
even going into the fifth or sixth inning, and this
will be his signature formula. So he's figured it out.
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And I think the Mets should be easy pasy here,
and then you get get around to maybe a Yankees
team that's a real, real sloppy but I think more
formative hitters. But I like our chances in this series.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I like that you say our chances. I think that's
fun too.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You know, I take ownership, You do take.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Ownership, You do take ownership. Is the world ready? Is
the world ready for a uh? For a Dodgers Yankees
World Series? And the hype that would follow. I think
it'd be great for the sport.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think undoubtedly it will. What the last time was
nineteen eighty one, they played a couple of times in
the seventies. It's like what I've been saying the last
couple of years is that this the the league has
been going out of its way to try to attract
younger people in a lot of ways, shape and form.
(03:02):
And one of the ways they did this was including
all these playoff teams, making it almost impossible for the
two best teams to meet each other. So this would
be just an old school matchup. I think for fans
like me, like diehard fans, middle aged fans like I
don't know how how much it'll captivate the twenty somethings.
I have no idea, but it will definitely generate or
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bring back the people that have always loved the game.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, yeah, no question, no questions asked. And then
of course you know we're going to see a Reggie
Jackson highlight right like the flashbacks. You know you'll see
is Reggie Jackson hitting three home runs in a game,
no doubt. Do you think any differently of show? Hey, now.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
There Shoheo. Tani is having one of the most statistically
unique postseasons of all time. If you look at his stats,
and this is really strange, He's something like seven for nineteen,
seventeen for nineteen in his last nineteen at bath with
runners in scoring position. That just doesn't sound right. I
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know that goes back into the regular season, the postseason
stat is this, he is over when he has nobody
on base. When there's someone on base, he's hitting like
seven hundred. It's just statistically such an anomaly. The problem is,
I guess, is that why lead him off? If he
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is over leading off? But I don't know. I don't
fuck with anything right now, but show Hey, I think
that Horme Mune last night kind of got him going,
and we're gonna see a couple more of those before
the series over.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh, I don't think there's any doubt, no doubt at
all that he once he gets into a groove and
gets his rhythm and oh yeah, by the way, everybody else,
you know, everybody else around him, every else around him
hitting then yeah, I mean I think then he's going
to see more baseballs as well.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Kyk Munsey unbelievable. The guy who has the best average
in these playoffs is what can I think of our shortstops?
Name the Edmund that we got from the Cardinals, Edmund
at the bottom of the order, Like that makes all
the difference.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh, I think there's no question, no question it makes
the difference. But key K is like ridiculous how good
he is in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
He's actually been on our team the entire season, and that,
for whatever reason doesn't doesn't resonate with me. He was
on the team the entire season. I thought he came
over this year. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think it was last year he came over. He
came back to the Dodgers, and he kind of he
kind of like he was like it was like cam
for no money at all. There's just some of those
guys that they pop up in the playoffs and you're like,
this guy's good in the playoffs, and you make the
assumption that they're good players and they're really not. That's
really kind of what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
True.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (06:03):
At s Doug out Leeby Show here on Fox Sports.
Treddy and Let's Welcome Many joins us for his weekly visit.
He's Kelly Ford kfod ratings dot Com and of course
you can follow him on Twitter as well. He's the owner,
he's a proprietor. He's the one who understands the analytics.
What's changed with the college football playoff from last week
to this week.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Kelly, Yeah, Doug, we're getting down to it here, closer
and closer to November and December. For me, we've seen
some contenders fall off, but really some unexpected teams that
have risen. Of course, you've got you know, Oregon, Ohio State,
Penn State out of the Big ten and the SEC, Alabama,
Georgia texted Texas, A and M is a team that
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is surging in their chances to reach the collegeball Playoff.
For me and the ACC, it's cleansing in Miami. But
the surprises here maybe out of the Big twelve, Iowa
State now has a seventy plus percent chance to make
the college football Playoff or at least be in the
at large conversation by my numbers and BYU is that
a sixty plus percent chance to be in that conversation
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as well. Indiana still lurking around as a surprise team
for many, with a thirty plus percent chance. So there
are a lot of contenders we knew there would be
this first year of the twelve team playoff, more teams
in it late in the year, but some of the
surprise characters that we haven't seen really sniffed the CFP conversation.
In the last ten years have made their presence known,
which has made it pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, Organs takedown of Ohio State, how'd that affect the
Big Board?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It sounds bad, Doug, but to be honest, it really didn't.
It hasn't expected things too much from me. Right now,
if you look at the projected Big Ten standings for me,
I still have the same two teams projected to make
it to Indianapolis, and that is Oregon and Ohio State.
If you look at the power ratings, I still have
Ohio State as a better power rated team than Oregon,
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so my numbers still favor Ohio State in that game.
Both of these teams continue to be strong candidates for
the Costwall playoff, of course, and right now, even though
Ohio State lost that game on the road, I still
have the Buckeyes as a favorite to win the Big Ten. Oregan, though,
has the better chance to make it to Indianapolis at
this stage.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, man, there's a lot to get into here. There's
just so many different games. Let's start to talk about
this weekend's games. I am fascinated fascinated by Bama Tennessee
so Bama beat Georgia, loses the Vandy almost lose to
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South Carolina. They're a favorite on the road at Tennessee.
How much slack do they have? How many games can
Bama lose and still get in the College Fall playoff?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So I'm very fascinated by this game as well as
I think it might be the most intriguing game of
the entire weekend. It's got a nine point nine watchability
score out of ten for me. And before I directly
answer your question, I want to set the stage for
this game, because yes, these are two very highly power
rated teams. Alabama's number three in my power rating, Tennessee's
number seven in my power ratings. I actually have Tennessee
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as a very flight favorite in this game of fifty
three percent win expectancy because they are at home. However,
what I want to talk about here for these two
teams and Doug. If you go on the website Day
four ratings dot Com and go to the projections tab,
I have the team dashboard for all one hundred and
thirty fourteen. In the bottom left of that projection tab
or of the graphic is a form section and it
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tells you how has the Power Rating Model changed on
this team in the last week, the last two weeks,
the last month, and over the course of the season.
If you look at the last two weeks for these
two teams, for Tennessee, that's the overtime winn against Florida
and a five point loss on the road at Arkansas.
For Alabama, that's a two point win that gets home
against South Carolina and a five point loss on the
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road to Vanderbilt. Over the last two weeks, Alabama's been
downgraded by the model more than five points. They have
been downgraded more than any team in the country over
the last two weeks. Final Model in Tennessee, they're nearly
four points down. That's number one hundred and twenty eight
out of one hundred and thirty fourteen. So both of
these teams in the bottom you know, five or six
in terms of their form the last two weeks. I
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think that's very, very intriguing for two teams that are
still in the top ten of the power ratings. To
answer your question, I think Tennessee needs this game more.
I think Tennessee needs to be at least ten and
two to be in that at large conversation, Alabama because
of the schedule they play. I think nine to three
is enough to get the Crimson tied in the conversation.
That doesn't mean they're guaranteed the spot. It means they're
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in the conversation on selection Sunday. So I think Tennessee
needs it more with both of these teams already have
it already having lost the game.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, it's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
There are some other games though, that are that are intriguing.
I think you would you definitely agree there in terms
of the college football playoff, like Georgia taking on Texas. Okay,
kind of same question for Georgia, right, you lose it.
Alabama became a close game, no problem, you lose it Texas? Okay?
(11:00):
Is there a four and a half point underdog? Could
be no problem? But again, how much slack do they have?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
In my numbers, my numbers are really high on Texas
here dog. I've actually got this spread closer to ten
and a half for the Longhorns, which sounds absolutely crazy.
I do believe the number has been climbing in Vegas,
but certainly my model suggests there's quite a bit of
value on Texas in this game. With the line currently
right there, like you said, around four to four and
a half five, I do think that Georgia is starting
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to get in the mode of needing games. I still
think Georgia can lose this one, and because their schedule
is so difficult, it's actually the number one most difficult
schedule in the country with my numbers, even more difficult
than Florida's. Now that update happened here this week, I
still think Georgia is going to be okay. Even if
they get to nine to three. Georgia probably hasn't that
large case for Texas because their schedules easier, probably ten
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and two. So I do think, you know, both teams
maybe need this game, but both can still afford to
lose it. If you look at texas remaining schedule after
this at Texas, A and M is the only game
after this that my numbers assigned less than a ninety
two percent win expectancy for the Longhorns. So it should
quote unquote be smooth sailing for the Longhorns. We know
it's never actually goes to plan and talks football, but
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no game remaining on the schedule outside of maybe A
and M really scares Texas. If you look at Georgia
after this, I've got a forty two percent win expectancy
on the road at Ole Myth, a fifty nine percent
win expectancy at home against Tennessee. So Georgia's schedule is
very difficult. They can afford to lose this one. But
if they do, they really start looking over their shoulder, like, man,
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is there a possibility we might miss the collegewall playoffs?
Which would have seemed crazy to say just you know,
seven or eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Ago, would have been crazy to say, okay, what about
the Big Twelve? Where does that stand?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
The Big Twelve is a super fascinating conference for me
right now, and it's booed by you know, Iowa State
and BYU both being three and zero conference play. TECHNI
Tech fans will say, so are we, and they absolutely are.
Texas Tech maybe not on the same level as Iowa
State and BYU for power rating standpoint, and the schedule
sets up a little bit differently as well. But for me,
if you're looking at this Big twelve race, Iowa State, BYU,
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those are the favorites to make it to Arlington. Kansas State,
though continues to be among the better power rated teams
in this conference, and right now they are projecting the
finish third for me in this conference. Rate Texas Tech,
VIRGIIT or West Virginia excuse me, and maybe even Colorado
that lost this week hurt Colorado. Those are the teams
that are still in this mix for me. But Iowa
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State and BYU they are certainly the best position, being
undefeated in conference or.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
On the season.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I should say I have BYU right now number two
in my most Deserving ranking, so I don't think they're
the second best team in the country. I think they
have the second best resume today behind only Oregon. Iowa
States not far behind at number four in my Most
Deserving and doug These two teams do not play each
other in the regular season, so it is possible they
both make it to Arlington unscathed. I think the Big
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twelve's best chance to get multiple teams into the College
Wall playoffs would be for both of these teams to
make it to Arlington with no more than one loss.
One has to be undefeated, the other has one loss,
and then the one loss team beat the undefeated team
in Arlington. I think both of those resumes would be
worthy of inclusion in the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Awesome, awesome stuff Kford Ratings dot Com and at k
Ford Ratings that that's where you can find all of
this last thing. What would be the biggest surprise? You
talked about the Texas number being really way bigger than
what Vegas predicts. If I was looking at this weekend,
what should be the biggest surprise outcome. It doesn't have
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to be an upset in terms of the the amount
of points, in terms of differential based upon UH, based
upon your analytical data.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, so look at some of the best games the
week and the biggest games of the weekend, if you will.
You know, we've talked about Texas and Georgia. My numbers
are on the other side of the Tennessee Alabama line
from Vegas. It sounds like I'm also looking in the ACC.
You've got Miami going on the road to Louisville. That's
a really, really big game. Miami certainly still in the
mix for everything, being undefeated leading that conference. Louisvilleoe is
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a good team. I have them power rated number sixteen
despite some of the losses that they've picked up along
the way in the SEC. Another game to keep an
eye on. LSU fresh off of a very very big
win against Ole Miss. Now they're going on the road
to Arkansas in a rivalry game. Arkansas is a sneaky
good team this year. I've got them right now, number
twenty eight in the power ratings. They're four and two
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on the year. I don't think enough people are paying
attention to Arkansas that game at home in a rivalry
Those are two I'm keeping an eye on. And then
if you want to go to the Big twelve, and
it might as well be an elimination game at Kansas
State going on the road to West Virginia, that's going
to be really important for both.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Of these teams.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Kansas State for me, is the favorite here. They're number
twelve in the most Reserving rankings, their top twenty in
the Power ratings. But that's a tricky place to play
there in Morgantown, And so that's the game to keep
an eye on as well. I you host Nebraska, not
calling for the upset there, but I use a team
they haven't really been tested yet this year. Brass is
coming in with only one loss, So that's a big
game in the Big ten that maybe is a little
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bit under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Awesome stuff, Kelly. You have a great weekend. Thanks so
much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Thanks Doug, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
App let Let's get to what the Fox Says and
Now sators Dan Patrick talking with Fox Sports John Smoltz
on the starting pitching in the NLCS.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
And it used to be that we got geared up
for those starting pitchers and those matchups. That's not the
case anymore. But you know what the Dodgers got out
of Walker Bueller was a gift last night. You know
what is their It used to be they were, you know,
knee deep in pitching. Now they're not. So what is
their philosophy where the Mets do have good starting pitching?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, you really are reading two different books, right, You're
reading a book of traditional baseball by the Mets. That
carried them through the second half. They're starting pitching was fantastic.
They did a great job getting in deep into the games.
And then you've got a team beat up in the Dodgers,
where their rotation on paper in the beginning of the
year was phenomenal, and then everybody gets hurt. They don't
have any real options, so they typically would leave Walker
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Buehler in that game ninety nine percent of the time
in a regular season game. They just weren't going to
do it with the bullpen and the necessity to bank
that win. I hate it, you know, for Walker Buehler
because he did such an incredible job, especially rebounding from
San Diego, because every pitcher wants to be in there
when they haven't given up runs. But it's kind of
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the narrative that the Dodgers are playing by, and really
they haven't lost a game doing it yet, so until
they lose a game doing it that way, I don't
think they're going to change.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Great point. It's one of those where you don't have
to like how it looks, but the outcome does in
many ways support it. And oh yeah, by the way,
that's interesting about it. How many of you have done
this with the old RBI Baseball game or with MLB
the show. I know I have, right, So it's really
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video games come to life, and it's fascinating that it's
working in the sport at this level. Here's Joel Klatt
with Colin Cowher talking about the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
What's becoming more important than talent acquisition. Talent retention. Getting
your current players to stay in your program delivers continuity
and experience, and all of that continuity and experience allows
you to perform at your best in the biggest moments.
And that's what we're seeing from Texas. They are owning
the game really in the tempo of the game, and
(18:44):
in large part they have been able to protect their
defense as well, which allows them to be the number
one scoring offense in the country and the number one
scoring defense in the country. So they're a complete team.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The talent retention is it's been akpe key. It's not
a new thing. I mean, it's a huge thing, especially
in sport like basketball. But having continuity. He went on
to talk about USC, whereas if USC can can bring
back some of these offensive linemens, some of the younger players,
that they'll be fine as well. I agree. I mean, look,
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Texas has done it by building it the right way.
They've gone out and gotten quarterbacks really good ones, spent
a bunch of money, but they've retained their line play
and gotten better and better and better over years. Here's
Brady Quinn talking about Colorado's Travis Hunter making the case
why he should win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
Part of the issue is he's so good teams don't
really want to throw at him, so it's hard to
then have defensive stats. The offensive stats will be there,
but again, it hurts when he gets hurt. Here's the
problem with his entire premise and his discussion or argument. Okay,
he actually made the case for why Ashton Genty should
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win the Heisman. Okay, this is why Ashton Genty averages
ten yards per rushing attempt like that is one of
the most ridiculous stats and it's why he's in the
lead right now for the Heisman. Also a seventeen touchdown,
So yes, he's got one hundred and twenty six rushing attempts.
But that's kind of how it works, right, Like you
tend to run the football more and get more touches
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as a running back, and it's it's much harder, by
the way, to average of yards per carry like that.
Like in most cases, he is double some of the
best running backs in college football who are averaging four
or five yards per attempt, So I'm not sure that's
the best argument to be made for a Heisman candidacy.
(20:38):
If your traffs Hunter to try to do a touch
for touch comparison.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, like, I just think that there's a
bunch of flaws to the Heisman Trophy. You have lots
of people who vote in the Heisman Trophy that are
local Yokol sports writers and I'm not trying to probably
saying local Yokol that sounds mean, But if you cover
a team, you're there a couple hours for the game,
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you watch the game, you report on the game, and
then maybe when you get home you get to watch
the games. Like the people who should be voting on
it are all the national analysts that watch all the football.
That's really who should And then you have to operate
on the premise, who's the best college football player in
the country. It's Travis Hunter. I don't think it's terribly close,
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but it is hard to quantify what he does, and
for some reason, if Colorado loses a couple more games,
it minimizes his effect. But he's an incredible, incredible player.
That's what the Fox says. What does say let's find
out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart, And now it's your annoying.
(22:00):
What do you got, Jasu Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The Dodgers won last night, great win, fun win. We
talked about it on the radio. We'll talk about it again.
But I do want to point something out, and I
think that is a perfect example of how Major League
Baseball has always been slow to change. I mean, in
a lot of ways, it's the opposite of the NFL.
The NFL will clean shit up and address stuff. If
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it's either unpopular or the rule sucks, they'll change it.
Like last week. MLB will take years to do testing.
Let's do the minor league testing. Let's get it on
the major league level. But let's kind of let's slow
play this thing. Automated balls and strikes. If you took
the temperature, I think in most baseball fans they would
(22:46):
say it should have been done years ago. I know
there are still those holdouts, people that want the human element.
I get it. I've never been in that camp. Because
the umpire union themselves should be complaining that there isn't
ABS yet, because it makes their union members look like
fools when we the viewers are seeing balls and strikes
(23:08):
missed on a nightly basis. It's like TV's making fun
of your union members. And if ABS comes in, you're
not losing any jobs. The Homepoint Empire does a lot
of things during the game that isn't balls and strikes,
so there's not going to be any lost jobs. There's
really no reason not to do it. But last night,
this guy, Marvin Hudson, nobody knows his name. Nobody should
(23:31):
know his name. But the reason why you know his
name now is because he was so swayed by the
framing of the Mets catcher Alvarez. Alvarez is a it's
like a little league catcher framer. In other words, he
takes balls like a foot outside and then he brings
it into the strike zone to see if he could
fool the umpire. You could fool little league umpires, you
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should never be able to fool major league umpires. But
on six or seven occasions last night he got strike
calls on his stupid framing. Again, you cannot make a
better case for why there should be automated balls and
strikes than that subjective bullshit last night by this Marvin
Hudson behind the plate.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, it so you know, it's interesting. I've talked to
so many baseball players and foreigner baseball players who agree
with you, like, what are we doing? The technology is there?
These guys aren't that good. And the worst part is
their egos are so sizable. Right, It's like one thing
to miss something, it's the other thing to be so
defensive about missing something. I agree, what else?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So I need Iowa Samon here because he's our Kaitlin
Clark correspondent. Now. He sent us a story on the
group text yesterday and I followed up on it a
little bit, So if you go back a little bit,
Kaitlin Clark was voted the Rookie of the Year almost unanimously,
with one holdout. I think there was like six seven votes.
(25:00):
She got sixty six votes for Rookie of the Year.
So someone's just just being an asshole. Somebody's just it's
that one person in the room that when there's like
energy and everyone's agreen with something, that's a one person
in the room who's the devil's advocate. He's just the asshole.
And so yesterday the votes were revealed for all NBA
(25:21):
All WNBA SAM and she was voted on to the team,
but it wasn't unanimous, and what were the details? There
was one hold out.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
How so there are sixty seven possible there are sixty
seven votes possible, and she got fifty two first team
all WNBA votes and got fourteen all WNBA's second team votes,
and one person left her off of either the first
or second team altogether. And maybe it's the same person.
(25:51):
I don't know, but there is. There's definitely a rat
somewhere in this, in this selection.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And that's what's annoying. I'm just gonna, without any evidence
at all, was going to say it's the same person,
and that person's an asshole.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I wish I could disagree with you. Let me just
state this very clearly. If you think that Angel Reese
should have been the Rookie of the Year over Caitlin Clark,
then you're a fucking idiot. Okay, you're a fucking idiot.
You don't know anything about basketball. You should never vote
(26:29):
on basketball. You're making about something that it's not about.
It's simply about the fact that any marker you want,
her team got much better. I don't even even get
into it, really simple, whoever you are, you don't know
anything about basketball period.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think this is a Spike thing too.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I don't know if it's just someone who's just like I.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Said, it can be a million different things. But you
know what, it's not about. It's not about who the
best rookie was in basketball. That was Caitlin Clark. That's it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Do we think it's the same person, Probably? Yeah, probably,
And I bet that it's the same person. I forget
his name on ESPN. I don't think it's him, but
Dennis Smith Junior or something this. Oh yeah, real woke guy.
He was the one who said that he doesn't care
if the ratings are like half in the WNA Finals
because he knows the right fans will be watching, you know,
(27:22):
he wants the women empowered, you know, fans to be watching.
And last night I think i an Escu hit like
a game winner and it was an amazing w NBA
Finals game. But I can almost guarantee nobody really knows
that today. I know it because I have to come
through sports content every day. But it speaks to just
(27:42):
how how much interest Kitlyn Clark brings to the game
when she's on the court. So I've said this many
times on this podcast. I've told you this that if I,
if or when I program a like a sports content network,
podcasting network, or network, I'm going to ban predictions. I
(28:03):
don't like predictions. I think they're lazy and they're like
empty calories. Listeners don't get anything out of it. So
I can't stand predictions. But you you are inclined to
put me on the spot with predictions. So yesterday, at
the very end of the show, you put me on
the spot. Who's gonna win Game three of the Dodgers.
(28:25):
How's it going to go tonight? It's going to be
Walker Buewer delivers for Dodgers and show. Hey, o'tani wakes
up in the LCS, look at you. So I like
predictions when I'm wow, there you go. I like that
(28:46):
when I'm right.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I like, what's it?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
What's annoying predictions that are wrong?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It's annoying that I I I just fell into prediction
radio and got it right. I guess that's that's what's
annoying with No, that's it. So home plateed umpiring the
All NBA Voter and prediction radio when I'm right.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Prediction radio, when you're right, when you're wrong, excuse me
prediction radio. When you're wrong, you hate, and yeah I
do too, I really do as well. I can't find
any fault with hating true prediction radio. So prediction radio
when you're wrong, as a nice.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I do.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Walker Bueller, Walker Bueller, I know he only pitched four innings,
but he gave us an amazing four innings, got out
of a really tight jam against one of the best
hitters in baseball. And he had this to say after
the game about the Padres series start.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
I think the way Kik talks about our team having
some sort of confidence when I pitch regardless, I think
is kind of really the goal for any starting pitcher.
You know, there's the stats and free agency and all
of the shit, but I just want twenty five guys
in the locker room that believe that I give us
a really good chance to win. And if I've created
(30:13):
that in our locker room somehow, that's that's probably what
I'll be the most proud of when I'm done.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Pretty solid, really really really really solid statement there from
Walker Buehler said, hero of the LA Dodgers, why can
we play for you? Because we can't. That's it for
the in the Bonus podcast. You got the radio show
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