October 22, 2024 • 33 mins
Doug riffs about the Bucs' loss on Monday night and the unfortunate injury to receiver Chris Godwin. Doug welcomes former Super Bowl Champion Tight End Vernon Davis onto the show to talk about the Chiefs, 49ers and the work he is doing on behalf of Smirnoff. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Kevin Garnett makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What got the Joe and the Spots Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. You know, here's something interesting
last night as the Cardinals gotta win. Love the Cardinals
black helmets. By the way, I've never liked the Cardinals
white helmets. They just seem too playing Jane Cardinals black helmets. Loved.
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Don't know how you feel about it. Also, obviously they
took down the Chargers, tough to watch game. Chargers had
a lead, a bunch of turnovers and Cardinals kick a
field goal to win it. And then the Ravens, I
mean thoroughly dismantled the Buccaneers defense. But I'll tell you
what hopped out to me was in back to back
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huge games San Francis taking on Kansas City and Tampa
taken on Baltimore. Star wide receivers were injured out for
the year. Chris Godwin's leg was flopping around. It was
a tough one to watch, even for those of us
who enjoy watching injuries. And Brandon a Yuk, who of
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course signed a contract extension before the season. He tore
up his knee against the Kansas City Chiefs, and like,
I don't know why we're in such denial as fans.
I understand. I understand that those guys are gladiators and
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one hit can change dramatically the trajectory of your career,
but we're acting as if that should guarantee you a
long term, guaranteed contract. And if you want to know
why NFL teams should never should never give long term
guaranteed contracts, I give you Brandan a yuk And and
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Chris Godwin height because the injuries, though graphic and tragic,
you can come back from them, but you're not going
to be the same. But you still have to pay
the guys. It still goes on the salary cap. Like
it's not as much even about the money. It's a
little bit about the money, but it's not as even
about the money because at least the money if you
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get hurt, that's paid for by insurance more so than
it's paid for by the team. But eventually you're still
compensating a player who's far below his normal level and
one hit can change or end your career. And while
some of you might say, well that should make them
that should make them more valuable. Maybe maybe, but that
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actually is universal to every position in the league. That
can all happen. It's like, it's like guys that go,
what is it that Alaskan king crab fishing? Like it's
incredibly so they do make a lot of money, but
you know what they don't have. They don't have long
term security because that would be dumb to pay somebody
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for long term security when the chance is they get injured, hurt,
maybe even killed while they're they're fishing for crabs. Right.
I guess my point is, yes, I hear you if
you say that's why guys want long term guaranteed contracts
when you watch those two injuries. And the other side
to it is that's why owners are would be lunatics
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to give them long term guaranteed contracts because no matter
how good or how in shape you are, one move,
one hit, and you're never the same. Therein lies, they're up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (03:51):
That's the Doug Gottleeb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
Joining us On behalf of Smirnoff and the matchmaking software
Matchbox is Vernon day. Of course, he was on that
Super Bowl champion twenty fifteen Broncos team played fifteen years
in the NFL, probably most known that tight end playing
for the San Francisco fort nine say two time pro
bowler joined me earlier today, Vernon, how are you I.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Got to hit?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I don't hit a cloud. The crowd applauding, I don't
hit the applause.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Come on, we don't.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
We don't have this is there's no This is like
playing a road game like no no, no crowd noise.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Gotta get your reaction to.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
The Niners getting it to get it handed to them
by by the chief.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Your thoughts, yeah, man, I for me, I know him.
Each year is different.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But if I was the Niners going to that game,
I was, you know, I was going to that game
with a vengeance, right based on the Super Bowl game
that we saw in last year. I just think they
can I know they can play better. You know they
had a Yeah, they had a few mistakes that were made,
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well you know a lot of mistakes that were made,
and they just didn't execute on a certain plays and
that's what it takes. You have to execute, especially when
you when there's a must execute right, And that's that's
a lot of times we see that, see that in
a lot of game games where teams shoot themselves in
the foot as we say in football, right when you
don't pull through and take advantage of the opportunity. Pretty much,
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so they if they if they're going to have a
chance making the two the playoffs and into the super Bowl,
they're going to have to really step it up and
win those big games like the games they played, the
game they played against the Kant City Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I would agree with you. How have the Chiefs been
able to do this? Right? They've had injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And depletion of wide receivers like you look and the
Niners and obviously are you getting hurt yesterday? Is fucking tragic, Okay,
But how have they the Chiefs able to do this
when you got Travis Kelce who's a little bit older
and just kind of a bunch of dudes, and yet
here they are dominating the NFL, even with Pat Mahomes
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leading the league in interceptions.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
How does this happen?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, they created the Kansti Chiefs. They created a winning atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
They've created a lot of just the attitude and approach
towards again, they they know that when they go out
there and play, they're going out there, going out there
to win, no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And the guys who.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Are those second stream guys, those guys who are backing up,
the guys who may be injured, they're all so good.
They understand that their careers on the line. So when
they get a chance to go out there, they're going
out there to play. They're playing just as good as
the guys who are.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Who are starters. And it's they just have a they created,
like I said, they created.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
A winning culture. And they we know they have Patrick
Mahomes and you know they have Travis Kelce at tight end,
but they're not everything that's needed on the team. They
also have other guys. I mean, there's a fifty three
man roster, and all those guys at each position can
play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Vern Davis join us here in the Doug Gotlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. The Jets obviously you bring over
a couple of ex Packers and they just haven't been
able to get it right.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
And I'm just wondering, Right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You were a part of the whole build in San
Francisco up until get into a Super Bowl. Obviously, you
know you end up winning a Super Bowl as well.
But I'm just kind of fascinated though by what it's like.
You went home to play for the Van Redskins, Right,
you go home and that's where you end up finishing
your career.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But the organization, at.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Least outwardly and based upon what we've read, wasn't nearly
as well run as for example, the Niners. Right, the
culture of it, what's it like to come from a
place that championship cultures in San Francisco, in Denver and
then go to a place and then as the vet,
now you've got to try and establish the championship culture.
But it's really hard because it's not maybe instilled in
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the guys and in the franchise.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I mean you can understand
that better.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You go from an organization where the winning is the
only thing right, and the tradition is it's set right.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We know the guys like Jerry Reich, Joe Mantan and
all those guys.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Those guys implemented something that can't be taken away and
not knocking guy players like Darryl Green and Doug Williams.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But when you go to an.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Organization like this, it's a lot of times it well,
all the time. It's about the organization. It's about the
upper management. What are they doing to make this a
winning culture? And you can feel it, you know, you
can feel it. You can feel and you can see, Okay,
we didn't do this in San Francisco, this should be
done a different way. Is a guy a veteran guy
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who's been playing the game for more than ten years, Sure,
you know exactly what that looks like. You know what
it looks like. What has the organization implemented to make
this a culture of winning?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You know? And when you don't see.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
It, it's like, all right, Okay, I can voice my opinion,
But does my opinion matter? Can I go in and
give them X, Y and Z in order for them
to make this happen that way? Maybe not, Maybe they
don't they don't trust my opinion. Maybe my opinion is
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But you can only control the things that you can control,
And for me, that was going in there playing football,
playing the tightening position, and helping to make my team
a better team.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That's all I could do.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, your story of your upbringing is well documented.
Obviously you are an incredible player in college and it
took you a while to get it. Going in the
pro is right, part of that changing process in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But you got a chance getting the Pro Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What would it mean to you considering all you personally
went through to get through the peak, to get to
the peak of the Nation Football League.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Oh, that would mean everything. That's what we played this game.
The reason why we played this game. We played this
game to win the Super Bowl. We played this game
to become great players and being known as the great players,
to make it to the Hall of Fame. Right, you
played better than anyone who well played the game. Like
you're one of those guys and you're going to always
your legacy is always going to live, continue to go
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on forever when you make it to the Hall of Fame.
And if I get in there, that would mean so
much to me, my family, my friends, everyone who ever
rooted for me. Like that's that that is a moment
of tears, man, tears of joy, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's nothing I mean that that can't be replaced. You can't.
You can't make that up.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Nope, that incredible stuff them. What you doing with Smironov?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, it's the twenty fifth this cop coming Thursday, you're
going to the rams Vikings.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
What are you doing with the folks a Smiranov?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well see arin offense that partnered up with Matchbox.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's all about those traditions, right, those those unique traditions,
something that you could take on, You create something and
you and you remember it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So what we're giving them with Matchbox is a Matchbox
is a viral software agency, and we're basically giving fans
an elevated game day experience where they have a chance
to connect with other people in a special way.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Anything that Samiranov is involved in, they do it right.
They make it fun and it's no better way to
watch the game in a suite with people and being
a part of wonderful connections. It's gonna be a beautiful thing,
a beautiful day and a great moment for us.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, it give me a really competitive game.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Hey, we really appreciate you join us Vernon with the
forward Esenia in that Hall of Fame induction speech. Meantime,
thanks for joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I appreciate you. Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now what
does say every day this time and the Doug Gottlieb Show.
In the Voters Podcast, we played for a portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One.
Here's Dan Patrick talk about Lamar Jackson being the front
runner for another MVP award.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
This is what I hope doesn't happen, but it's inevitable
that it probably will. The voters are going to look
at Lamar Jackson and go, can we give him the
MVP again. Let's just say that this plays out because
Patrick Mahomes is not the MVP. His team's undefeated, he
hasn't played great. So if you're looking at candidates this year,
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you would start with Lamar Jackson. So if we start
with Lamar Jackson and he's been really good and the
team is good, they have two losses, but they're really good,
are we going to hold it against him because what
he did in the postseason or what he didn't do
in the postseason, and voters do this. They did that
with Joker, Jokers should have one more MVP. They're going
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to do that against Joe l Embiid. They might have
done that with other players, where they go, yeah, but
he's good in the regular season, but he doesn't do
anything in the postseason. That might happen with Lamar Jackson.
He might be the best player or most valuable player,
but voters may go I remember talking to voters and
not a lot, but a few voters who always wanted
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to make sure their Heisman vote was to a player
who would be good in the NFL, And I said,
that's not what the award is based off him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I agree with Dan, but it is a hard mental
leap to make, right where you'd you've watched the playoff,
you know the playoffs, you feel the playoffs, and you're like, wait,
so I might not supposed to pay attention to the playoffs.
How does that exactly work? I'm not sure, but like,
let's be honest, this is a weird year for Baltimore
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and a weird year for Lamar because it wasn't just
they lost two games early. He was bad early started
the season, and he wasn't just good last night. He
was incredible last night. I think though, that's why you
have such a wide swath of voters, because yes, you'll
get the occasional guy who holds it against him, but
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the vast majority are able to see through that.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
They just are.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And again, remember we're in the first half of the season.
A lot of things, a lot of things can change.
But one thing that's amazing, and one thing that's a
parent is we cannot take what we saw in the
first three four weeks of the season as the law.
Case in point, the Raiders beat the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore,
and if they played today, the Ravens would be a
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ten point favorite minimum. This is LeVar Arrington talking about
the media's reaction to a Tongue of Ilois decision to return.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
You don't have to talk to him like he's he's
like in hospice care, like he's not. You don't have
to talk to him like he's a victim, Like oh, well,
do you foresee yourself really having to play like in
a different way now? Like, bro, just talk to him.
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Just do the interview, ask your questions, and do it
the way like, don't you don't have to talk to
the dude like he's like oblivious to who he is,
or he's punched drunk or or anything like that. And
if he were, he's still there. The employer still believes
they clearly have a level of competency and what it
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is that he brings to the table confidence in his competency.
You don't have to talk to him like that, you know.
It's just kind of like like a first take like
that takes me back a little bit. But as far
as him coming back, like, Okay, you can shoot down
and it's a personal choice not to wear the guardian?
Is that a choice that he should be able to make.
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We don't get to make a choice if we wear
a helmet or not. Why can't they make it mandatory
that he wears a guardian if you're the decision makers
of that team. I want to protect my investment. We
just paid your as a whole lot of money. You
gonna wear it this god dang the guardian helmet?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, there was You guys are familiar
with my Andrew luck tweet, right, and my Andrew Luck.
Twat was one, it was funny too, it was accurate,
and three, I think today is the perfect time to
bring it up. When Andrew Luck retired, I said, I
think my tweet was something along lines of not coming
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back and not wanting to rehab an ankle injury and
retiring because you don't want to rehab an ankle injury
is the most millennial thing ever. And by that what
I meant was, Look, we've been told for one hundred
years nothing tougher than a football player. Ronnie Lott cut
off the tip of his finger so he could play
in a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
These guys are warriors and we celebrate them as such.
And so now when you have a guy who is
a warrior wants to come back from it, and this
is Look, the one part the three concussions that we
know of seems like a lot. Reality is I think
a lot of these guys that have the brain damage,
they've probably had a lot of undiagnosed concussions and ones
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in which you know, again back in the day, we
you know, they got some smelling salts and you went
back to work. But this is much more normal for
football players. This is what they've always done. They've always
been the guys that were willing to put themselves in
harm's way, regardless of it. Obviously, the troubling part to
come back and play is not just the volume of concussions,
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but the fact that the last one it wasn't like
his head was hit hard or hit the dirt hard.
It felt like it was just kind of mushed into
a jersey. So if that's all it takes to give
him a concussion, what's it going to take to give
him the next concussion and the next concussion and the
next concussion. But this also allows us ten years from
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now to go, see told you so if in fact
you know he has some health issues because of it,
because enough people have said time to shut it down.
This is Colin Cowherd talking about Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I feel bad for Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray, even
though Kyler won. Justin Herbert no run game. Shaky o
line got Jalen Rager fumbling in the end zone told
for three hundred and forty nine yards. Quentin Johnston, boy,
he was missed, wasn't he We're not even sure he's
not a bust. He wasn't there. He was missed. His
number one target was Will Disley. No run game, three
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hundred and forty nine yards. But between Justin Herbert and
Kyler Murray, it is another referendum. Don't chase money in
any profession. Chase great ownership, chase great management. There's so
little of it. How many awful organizations are there. The
Chargers are better now, they got hardball. But I mean
Kyler Murray, he makes Arizona interesting. And that's all you
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can ask for. If Michael Bidwell owns your team, I
mean he makes him interesting. I mean, now, now Herbert
finally has the right head coach, and they have two
very good tackles. Cross their fingers on their health. But
I mean there's a way to play. I'm just stack
the box, don't let them run. They have nobody on
the outside. Quentin Johnson looks like a semi bus. They
have nobody on the outside. They can beat you. I mean,
there's absolutely a way to defend the Chargers. And Justin
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Herbert's throwing for three hundred and forty nine yards to
a tight ends and it's amazing that he threw for
three and a half football fields.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That was a wild one right. He was he was
Colin was was was all over the road right. If
he was driving a car with that take, he would
have gotten pulled over for dui because he started by
saying they have no offensive line, then saying they have
pretty good tackles. They don't have good tackles. They got
great tackles. They're rebuilding the roster, Colin. Don't feel bad
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for for Justin Herbert. Eventually they're gonna end up being
a championship team. They don't have good enough players outside
the numbers, but they have had a good run game.
Those guys are just all banged up. That's that's part
of it. So uh yeah, I mean, the turnovers end
up being the story. But I don't I don't agree
at all with him with with Justin Herbert. Herbert's been solid.
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He's a stud. Those of us who are Charger fans
love him. And you know, no, they didn't have the
weaponry to win, but this wasn't a year that's designed
on went. They're gonna win way more than we thought anyway.
I mean, they'll beat the Saints next week at home,
then they'll beat the Browns, then they'll beat the Titans
and we'll see what happens with the Bengals and the
Ravens at home before they head back to the road.
But the point is, I wouldn't feel sorry for Justin Herbert.
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And I'm a Charger fan, Charger fan, but I will
tell you one thing that is interesting is having gone
to the Packer game and having gone to so many.
I've gone the last going to three Packer games this year,
and I've obviously been to a ton of Charger games,
And I said, the viewing experience is so different because
Packer fans think something good is gonna happen and Charger
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fans don't. And once you get to that, once she
can cross over that threshold, then the Chargers will be
cooking something.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Say, let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Hey, Doug, I want to give you credit on something. Okay,
you're right, all was wrong. In fact, I'm going to
do one of two things. I'm going to tell you
where you were right and where you were wrong. We'll
do a little like cowhurtzegment hair. Where Doug was right.
Bill Belichick is going to be a good broadcaster. I
had my doubts. I really did have my doubts. I
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thought he was a little too laconic, a little too wooden,
he didn't give us anything. I thought he would be
too short. But he's just like refreshingly raw and honest.
He doesn't run anything by that filter like JJ watt okay,
big douchebag. Everything he says, you get the impression that
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he runs it through this filter of is what I'm
about to say gonna sound cool? And then he says it.
Bill Belichick just answers the questions, and he does. He
doesn't really take any prisoners. He doesn't try to savor
any relationships. This is him. So after the game on
Sunday in England, what's his name, Gerrod Mayo, he called
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his defensive players soft, and Bill Belichick took issue with
that twice yesterday. I think this was him on McAfee.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
I'm kind of hurt for those guys because they call
them soft. They're not soft. But they were the best
team in the league last year against the run. Those
guys did out there, went out there and did it
even though we couldn't score many points offensively. So I
don't know. I feel bad for the defensive players on
that one, because those guys, that's a tough group. I mean,
John Jones, Gotshaw Wise, Jenny's those those are all the uce.
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Those guys are all tough players, like they'll they'll strap
it up and go tugger. I mean, they're tough guys.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
So that's Bill Belichick taking a shot at his protege
basically right. And maybe the protege kicked him in the
ass out the door. And Belichick doesn't have great feelings
about Mayo, but I thought that was great. And then
he went on the Manning Cast last night and said,
whenever we lost, it was my fault. You don't blame
your players. So good for Bill Belichick, and you were
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right him being a broadcaster.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Thank you. I think what happens is and not everybody
can do it right. But one, he's been so successful
he's past the point of giving a fuck.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
That's a huge thing. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Secondly, I'm not sure he wants to coach again. That's
the reason that most of these guys their coaches or
milk toast because they all think, hey, I gotta say
the right thing or I'll never get a job. Again,
and like Belichick, either one he doesn't give a shit,
which is part of it, or two he didn't want
another job so he didn't care who he pisses off.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But I think people took his press conference and him
shutting things down and being disengaged like that's not Bill Belichick.
He wouldn't have been able to relate to those players
for as long as he could if he didn't have
a different level of personality, different level of charm.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
That's a great point. There's there's I don't give any fucks,
and then there's I've got a hundred million in the
bank and a twenty five year old girlfriend. That's the
Bill Belichick. I don't give a fuck. So so the
one thing you were wrong on and I'm not going
to say you were totally wrong because nobody knew. But
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that's kind of a part of my issue here. Fox
pays Tom Brady, I think fifty million bucks a year
if you've been watching, and I watched the entire game
on Sunday, the Niners game. He does a lot of
Cowboys games. There's a lot of Captain Obvious with his
with his analyst work, there's a there's there's more Magic
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Johnson than there is Troy Aikman. You know, there isn't
a whole lot of insight. Great players don't always aren't
able to always be great at describing the game. And
then you saw the story last week after he signed
his ownership deal with the Raiders, where he's not going
to get access to team meetings, He's not going to
get access that most analysts get. So you're already you're
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already having a guy that's kind of captain obvious, and
then you're going to handicap him.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Now.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
I understand that there's a lot of resources over at
Fox are going to produce him up and there's gonna
be no shortages of information and whatnot, but again, just
his raw ability to react in real time isn't very
insightful to begin with. So I just I don't know
about Tom Brady, and it was just kind of annoying
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all the people right up front who said, oh, Tom
Brady is a great player, he gives great motivational speeches,
He's going to be a great analyst. I'm gonna just
kind of keep keep putting the brakes on that one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, he's it's been disappointing. I think he's he's one
of those where you try to create. He still hasn't
been able to be the off camera Tom Brady on camera.
You know, he's it's still a like performative art for him,
and that it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
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It's too robotic, it's too stilted, it's too planned. It's
not he Actually, Tony Romo needs his prep and he
needs that Tony Romo let it rip. And if you
could meet in the middle, you'd have a great broadcaster.
And I honestly think people still would prefer Romo to him.
And I know you don't. You don't enjoy Romo's broadcast,
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but by comparison they're a lot more enjoyable to what
Tom Brady's doing.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Yeah, no, I'll give you that. The aesthetics with Romo's tough.
He's still he has that. He has an impossible voice
that greats on you. And then yeah, he's his antics
are annoyed as well. So this third one we talked
about at length on the on the show. I think
it's it's on the radio show. I think it's the
story of the day. I don't know if you knew this,
but Ken Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Sr. Have been
(27:39):
flown into Los Angeles to attend the Lakers game this
evening yesterday. Bronnie James is the son of world famous
Lebron James. He was asked yesterday by reporters what he
thinks of the Griffy's coming into town and whatnot. Now,
this kid just turned twenty like two weeks ago, so
he's essentially a nine ten year old kid, okay. And
(28:01):
then he was asked if he knows he's playing tonight
and he said no. He looked at the reporters in
the eyes and said, no, I don't know if I'm
playing tonight. The Lakers have been lying this entire offseason
when it comes to everything Bronni, everything Bronni. And now
they have a nineteen year old kid lined for them too.
(28:23):
You really think the team's gonna fly in Ken Griffy
Junior and Senior on a nationally televised game and you're
not gonna play. You don't think that that photo up
with the four of you guys is going to be
all over the internet tonight. You don't think that if
God forbid, Bronni assists Lebron in a bucket or the
other way around. It's gonna break the internet tonight. Everybody's
(28:45):
gonna fall for it. This side show is what it is.
It's kind of cool. Actually, it would be cool if
the Lakers kind of presented it as such. This is
a really cool gesture for one of the most world
famous people on earth and one of the greatest players
ever played the game. He's gonna be on the court
with his son and they're gonna do a fun thing together.
That's a that's a great like side show. But they've
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been lying to us from the beginning up to yesterday,
when Brownie actually looked at us with a straight face
and says he doesn't know if he's playing tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I totally agree with you. It's so annoying. It's so disingenuous,
so annoying. Even if you said, and he said, I hope,
so right, like I hope so you know, I you know.
But in the NBA specifically, just so people are aware,
everyone knows who's playing before the game starts. Okay, everyone
(29:39):
knows who's playing for the game starts. That's how professional
basketball works. Where you got to tell because there are
guys that like you can't you won't play him a
night because you're like, hey, you're you're down tonight. So
a guy needs a rehab night, or a guy can
go work out, you know, they have an extra workout
the stay ready guys. There's two buses or two different
workout times for a group of guys that are gonna
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play are in a different workout the guys that aren't
gonna play. So the idea that he doesn't know is
a complete and utter lie.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
We both agree on that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Anything else.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
So the brownie side show, the Tom Brady supporters, and
I'm annoying myself for being wrong on Belichick.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I would say the Tom Brady supporters, you know, they
want so badly to have you know, the most successful
quarterback in the history of football, who is is a
good looking dude, be as good a broadcaster as he
was a player as the image that he's concocted is.
And the problem is that it's just it's it's too stiff,
(30:40):
too inorganic, too inorganic.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
At this point, why are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Because we can.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
You know, there are some repeat repeat appearances on this
portion of the podcast, and Kevin Garnett has made repeated appearances.
This subject was on his podcast about the notion that
Joe Embiid is not going to play the second half
of back to backs this year.
Speaker 12 (31:16):
What do you think is a good number of games?
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Eighty two games? Man, this is what the fucking job
calls for.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You're not practicing.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
You're not even playing a whole fucking You're not playing
the summer.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I can see if you're playing in the summer.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
You on the playground, you went the Olympics, then his
training camp. Y'all do thirty days of fucking tour days.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Okay, that's when you get rest.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I don't want to hit this shit.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Man, I don't want to hear none of this shit.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Motherfucker can sit out a back to backs?
Speaker 11 (31:46):
Bro, Bro, listen, we done with that compassion of the
era shit. We're gonna respect this era and what it does,
and that's it. I want don't compare nobody and none
of the shit, because.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You can't if you ain't playing. Man, Man, listen.
Speaker 12 (32:01):
I think that's gonna hurt Philly.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
That's gonna hurt Philly from a not even that, but
bro from a seedingndom. One night I got be next speed,
Next night, I ain't got it.
Speaker 12 (32:15):
You might have to put they might put themselves in
the position to when they played Boston in the first round. Bro,
this is all over the place, real ship, and ain't nobody.
Ain't nobody saying nothing? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (32:26):
Ain't nobody holding nobody accountable?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Bro.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
So so not only are they not gonna practice, they
they're gonna sit out. I got you at fifteen, I
look back to back.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Why could play for you? Because we can't. Look, here's
here's the simple thing. And I know the older generation
all feels like it's it's bullshit, and to a certain
extent it is. I will tell you that they're not
going to be the eighth seed because of it. And
oh yeah, by the way, like Joel Embiad's had a
ton of injuries, so I actually understand it. I do
back to backs. And you know it also gives Paul
(33:02):
George a chance to take over games all nights and
when he's off, and gives other guys a chance to
step up, like I don't. I gotta be honest with you.
I'm while I don't love the load management. I don't
think this one is anything sinister. If he's only missing
on back to backs. Why do we play for you
because we can? All Right, that's it for the In
(33:22):
the Modus podcast, I got the radio show every day
three to three to five Eastern, twelve to Pacific.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
I'm Doug Gottliet
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What got the Joe and the Spots Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. You know, here's something interesting
last night as the Cardinals gotta win. Love the Cardinals
black helmets. By the way, I've never liked the Cardinals
white helmets. They just seem too playing Jane Cardinals black helmets. Loved.
(00:36):
Don't know how you feel about it. Also, obviously they
took down the Chargers, tough to watch game. Chargers had
a lead, a bunch of turnovers and Cardinals kick a
field goal to win it. And then the Ravens, I
mean thoroughly dismantled the Buccaneers defense. But I'll tell you
what hopped out to me was in back to back
(00:57):
huge games San Francis taking on Kansas City and Tampa
taken on Baltimore. Star wide receivers were injured out for
the year. Chris Godwin's leg was flopping around. It was
a tough one to watch, even for those of us
who enjoy watching injuries. And Brandon a Yuk, who of
(01:17):
course signed a contract extension before the season. He tore
up his knee against the Kansas City Chiefs, and like,
I don't know why we're in such denial as fans.
I understand. I understand that those guys are gladiators and
(01:39):
one hit can change dramatically the trajectory of your career,
but we're acting as if that should guarantee you a
long term, guaranteed contract. And if you want to know
why NFL teams should never should never give long term
guaranteed contracts, I give you Brandan a yuk And and
(02:03):
Chris Godwin height because the injuries, though graphic and tragic,
you can come back from them, but you're not going
to be the same. But you still have to pay
the guys. It still goes on the salary cap. Like
it's not as much even about the money. It's a
little bit about the money, but it's not as even
about the money because at least the money if you
(02:26):
get hurt, that's paid for by insurance more so than
it's paid for by the team. But eventually you're still
compensating a player who's far below his normal level and
one hit can change or end your career. And while
some of you might say, well that should make them
that should make them more valuable. Maybe maybe, but that
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actually is universal to every position in the league. That
can all happen. It's like, it's like guys that go,
what is it that Alaskan king crab fishing? Like it's
incredibly so they do make a lot of money, but
you know what they don't have. They don't have long
term security because that would be dumb to pay somebody
(03:07):
for long term security when the chance is they get injured, hurt,
maybe even killed while they're they're fishing for crabs. Right.
I guess my point is, yes, I hear you if
you say that's why guys want long term guaranteed contracts
when you watch those two injuries. And the other side
to it is that's why owners are would be lunatics
(03:30):
to give them long term guaranteed contracts because no matter
how good or how in shape you are, one move,
one hit, and you're never the same. Therein lies, they're up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That's the Doug Gottleeb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
Joining us On behalf of Smirnoff and the matchmaking software
Matchbox is Vernon day. Of course, he was on that
Super Bowl champion twenty fifteen Broncos team played fifteen years
in the NFL, probably most known that tight end playing
for the San Francisco fort nine say two time pro
bowler joined me earlier today, Vernon, how are you I.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Got to hit?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I don't hit a cloud. The crowd applauding, I don't
hit the applause.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Come on, we don't.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
We don't have this is there's no This is like
playing a road game like no no, no crowd noise.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Gotta get your reaction to.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
The Niners getting it to get it handed to them
by by the chief.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Your thoughts, yeah, man, I for me, I know him.
Each year is different.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But if I was the Niners going to that game,
I was, you know, I was going to that game
with a vengeance, right based on the Super Bowl game
that we saw in last year. I just think they
can I know they can play better. You know they
had a Yeah, they had a few mistakes that were made,
(05:03):
well you know a lot of mistakes that were made,
and they just didn't execute on a certain plays and
that's what it takes. You have to execute, especially when
you when there's a must execute right, And that's that's
a lot of times we see that, see that in
a lot of game games where teams shoot themselves in
the foot as we say in football, right when you
don't pull through and take advantage of the opportunity. Pretty much,
(05:27):
so they if they if they're going to have a
chance making the two the playoffs and into the super Bowl,
they're going to have to really step it up and
win those big games like the games they played, the
game they played against the Kant City Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I would agree with you. How have the Chiefs been
able to do this? Right? They've had injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And depletion of wide receivers like you look and the
Niners and obviously are you getting hurt yesterday? Is fucking tragic, Okay,
But how have they the Chiefs able to do this
when you got Travis Kelce who's a little bit older
and just kind of a bunch of dudes, and yet
here they are dominating the NFL, even with Pat Mahomes
(06:10):
leading the league in interceptions.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
How does this happen?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, they created the Kansti Chiefs. They created a winning atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
They've created a lot of just the attitude and approach
towards again, they they know that when they go out
there and play, they're going out there, going out there
to win, no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And the guys who.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Are those second stream guys, those guys who are backing up,
the guys who may be injured, they're all so good.
They understand that their careers on the line. So when
they get a chance to go out there, they're going
out there to play. They're playing just as good as
the guys who are.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Who are starters. And it's they just have a they created,
like I said, they created.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
A winning culture. And they we know they have Patrick
Mahomes and you know they have Travis Kelce at tight end,
but they're not everything that's needed on the team. They
also have other guys. I mean, there's a fifty three
man roster, and all those guys at each position can
play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Vern Davis join us here in the Doug Gotlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. The Jets obviously you bring over
a couple of ex Packers and they just haven't been
able to get it right.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
And I'm just wondering, Right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You were a part of the whole build in San
Francisco up until get into a Super Bowl. Obviously, you
know you end up winning a Super Bowl as well.
But I'm just kind of fascinated though by what it's like.
You went home to play for the Van Redskins, Right,
you go home and that's where you end up finishing
your career.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But the organization, at.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Least outwardly and based upon what we've read, wasn't nearly
as well run as for example, the Niners. Right, the
culture of it, what's it like to come from a
place that championship cultures in San Francisco, in Denver and
then go to a place and then as the vet,
now you've got to try and establish the championship culture.
But it's really hard because it's not maybe instilled in
(08:12):
the guys and in the franchise.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I mean you can understand
that better.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You go from an organization where the winning is the
only thing right, and the tradition is it's set right.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We know the guys like Jerry Reich, Joe Mantan and
all those guys.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Those guys implemented something that can't be taken away and
not knocking guy players like Darryl Green and Doug Williams.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But when you go to an.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Organization like this, it's a lot of times it well,
all the time. It's about the organization. It's about the
upper management. What are they doing to make this a
winning culture? And you can feel it, you know, you
can feel it. You can feel and you can see, Okay,
we didn't do this in San Francisco, this should be
done a different way. Is a guy a veteran guy
(09:01):
who's been playing the game for more than ten years, Sure,
you know exactly what that looks like. You know what
it looks like. What has the organization implemented to make
this a culture of winning?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You know? And when you don't see.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
It, it's like, all right, Okay, I can voice my opinion,
But does my opinion matter? Can I go in and
give them X, Y and Z in order for them
to make this happen that way? Maybe not, Maybe they
don't they don't trust my opinion. Maybe my opinion is
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But you can only control the things that you can control,
And for me, that was going in there playing football,
playing the tightening position, and helping to make my team
a better team.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That's all I could do.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, your story of your upbringing is well documented.
Obviously you are an incredible player in college and it
took you a while to get it. Going in the
pro is right, part of that changing process in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But you got a chance getting the Pro Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What would it mean to you considering all you personally
went through to get through the peak, to get to
the peak of the Nation Football League.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Oh, that would mean everything. That's what we played this game.
The reason why we played this game. We played this
game to win the Super Bowl. We played this game
to become great players and being known as the great players,
to make it to the Hall of Fame. Right, you
played better than anyone who well played the game. Like
you're one of those guys and you're going to always
your legacy is always going to live, continue to go
(10:35):
on forever when you make it to the Hall of Fame.
And if I get in there, that would mean so
much to me, my family, my friends, everyone who ever
rooted for me. Like that's that that is a moment
of tears, man, tears of joy, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's nothing I mean that that can't be replaced. You can't.
You can't make that up.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Nope, that incredible stuff them. What you doing with Smironov?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, it's the twenty fifth this cop coming Thursday, you're
going to the rams Vikings.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
What are you doing with the folks a Smiranov?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well see arin offense that partnered up with Matchbox.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It's all about those traditions, right, those those unique traditions,
something that you could take on, You create something and
you and you remember it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
So what we're giving them with Matchbox is a Matchbox
is a viral software agency, and we're basically giving fans
an elevated game day experience where they have a chance
to connect with other people in a special way.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Anything that Samiranov is involved in, they do it right.
They make it fun and it's no better way to
watch the game in a suite with people and being
a part of wonderful connections. It's gonna be a beautiful thing,
a beautiful day and a great moment for us.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, it give me a really competitive game.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Hey, we really appreciate you join us Vernon with the
forward Esenia in that Hall of Fame induction speech. Meantime,
thanks for joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I appreciate you. Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now what
does say every day this time and the Doug Gottlieb Show.
In the Voters Podcast, we played for a portion of
a previous show on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One.
Here's Dan Patrick talk about Lamar Jackson being the front
runner for another MVP award.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
This is what I hope doesn't happen, but it's inevitable
that it probably will. The voters are going to look
at Lamar Jackson and go, can we give him the
MVP again. Let's just say that this plays out because
Patrick Mahomes is not the MVP. His team's undefeated, he
hasn't played great. So if you're looking at candidates this year,
(12:56):
you would start with Lamar Jackson. So if we start
with Lamar Jackson and he's been really good and the
team is good, they have two losses, but they're really good,
are we going to hold it against him because what
he did in the postseason or what he didn't do
in the postseason, and voters do this. They did that
with Joker, Jokers should have one more MVP. They're going
(13:20):
to do that against Joe l Embiid. They might have
done that with other players, where they go, yeah, but
he's good in the regular season, but he doesn't do
anything in the postseason. That might happen with Lamar Jackson.
He might be the best player or most valuable player,
but voters may go I remember talking to voters and
not a lot, but a few voters who always wanted
(13:43):
to make sure their Heisman vote was to a player
who would be good in the NFL, And I said,
that's not what the award is based off him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I agree with Dan, but it is a hard mental
leap to make, right where you'd you've watched the playoff,
you know the playoffs, you feel the playoffs, and you're like, wait,
so I might not supposed to pay attention to the playoffs.
How does that exactly work? I'm not sure, but like,
let's be honest, this is a weird year for Baltimore
(14:13):
and a weird year for Lamar because it wasn't just
they lost two games early. He was bad early started
the season, and he wasn't just good last night. He
was incredible last night. I think though, that's why you
have such a wide swath of voters, because yes, you'll
get the occasional guy who holds it against him, but
(14:35):
the vast majority are able to see through that.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
They just are.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And again, remember we're in the first half of the season.
A lot of things, a lot of things can change.
But one thing that's amazing, and one thing that's a
parent is we cannot take what we saw in the
first three four weeks of the season as the law.
Case in point, the Raiders beat the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore,
and if they played today, the Ravens would be a
(15:02):
ten point favorite minimum. This is LeVar Arrington talking about
the media's reaction to a Tongue of Ilois decision to return.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
You don't have to talk to him like he's he's
like in hospice care, like he's not. You don't have
to talk to him like he's a victim, Like oh, well,
do you foresee yourself really having to play like in
a different way now? Like, bro, just talk to him.
(15:36):
Just do the interview, ask your questions, and do it
the way like, don't you don't have to talk to
the dude like he's like oblivious to who he is,
or he's punched drunk or or anything like that. And
if he were, he's still there. The employer still believes
they clearly have a level of competency and what it
(15:56):
is that he brings to the table confidence in his competency.
You don't have to talk to him like that, you know.
It's just kind of like like a first take like
that takes me back a little bit. But as far
as him coming back, like, Okay, you can shoot down
and it's a personal choice not to wear the guardian?
Is that a choice that he should be able to make.
(16:17):
We don't get to make a choice if we wear
a helmet or not. Why can't they make it mandatory
that he wears a guardian if you're the decision makers
of that team. I want to protect my investment. We
just paid your as a whole lot of money. You
gonna wear it this god dang the guardian helmet?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, there was You guys are familiar
with my Andrew luck tweet, right, and my Andrew Luck.
Twat was one, it was funny too, it was accurate,
and three, I think today is the perfect time to
bring it up. When Andrew Luck retired, I said, I
think my tweet was something along lines of not coming
(16:58):
back and not wanting to rehab an ankle injury and
retiring because you don't want to rehab an ankle injury
is the most millennial thing ever. And by that what
I meant was, Look, we've been told for one hundred
years nothing tougher than a football player. Ronnie Lott cut
off the tip of his finger so he could play
in a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
These guys are warriors and we celebrate them as such.
And so now when you have a guy who is
a warrior wants to come back from it, and this
is Look, the one part the three concussions that we
know of seems like a lot. Reality is I think
a lot of these guys that have the brain damage,
they've probably had a lot of undiagnosed concussions and ones
(17:41):
in which you know, again back in the day, we
you know, they got some smelling salts and you went
back to work. But this is much more normal for
football players. This is what they've always done. They've always
been the guys that were willing to put themselves in
harm's way, regardless of it. Obviously, the troubling part to
come back and play is not just the volume of concussions,
(18:02):
but the fact that the last one it wasn't like
his head was hit hard or hit the dirt hard.
It felt like it was just kind of mushed into
a jersey. So if that's all it takes to give
him a concussion, what's it going to take to give
him the next concussion and the next concussion and the
next concussion. But this also allows us ten years from
(18:25):
now to go, see told you so if in fact
you know he has some health issues because of it,
because enough people have said time to shut it down.
This is Colin Cowherd talking about Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I feel bad for Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray, even
though Kyler won. Justin Herbert no run game. Shaky o
line got Jalen Rager fumbling in the end zone told
for three hundred and forty nine yards. Quentin Johnston, boy,
he was missed, wasn't he We're not even sure he's
not a bust. He wasn't there. He was missed. His
number one target was Will Disley. No run game, three
(19:04):
hundred and forty nine yards. But between Justin Herbert and
Kyler Murray, it is another referendum. Don't chase money in
any profession. Chase great ownership, chase great management. There's so
little of it. How many awful organizations are there. The
Chargers are better now, they got hardball. But I mean
Kyler Murray, he makes Arizona interesting. And that's all you
(19:27):
can ask for. If Michael Bidwell owns your team, I
mean he makes him interesting. I mean, now, now Herbert
finally has the right head coach, and they have two
very good tackles. Cross their fingers on their health. But
I mean there's a way to play. I'm just stack
the box, don't let them run. They have nobody on
the outside. Quentin Johnson looks like a semi bus. They
have nobody on the outside. They can beat you. I mean,
there's absolutely a way to defend the Chargers. And Justin
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Herbert's throwing for three hundred and forty nine yards to
a tight ends and it's amazing that he threw for
three and a half football fields.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That was a wild one right. He was he was
Colin was was was all over the road right. If
he was driving a car with that take, he would
have gotten pulled over for dui because he started by
saying they have no offensive line, then saying they have
pretty good tackles. They don't have good tackles. They got
great tackles. They're rebuilding the roster, Colin. Don't feel bad
(20:20):
for for Justin Herbert. Eventually they're gonna end up being
a championship team. They don't have good enough players outside
the numbers, but they have had a good run game.
Those guys are just all banged up. That's that's part
of it. So uh yeah, I mean, the turnovers end
up being the story. But I don't I don't agree
at all with him with with Justin Herbert. Herbert's been solid.
(20:42):
He's a stud. Those of us who are Charger fans
love him. And you know, no, they didn't have the
weaponry to win, but this wasn't a year that's designed
on went. They're gonna win way more than we thought anyway.
I mean, they'll beat the Saints next week at home,
then they'll beat the Browns, then they'll beat the Titans
and we'll see what happens with the Bengals and the
Ravens at home before they head back to the road.
But the point is, I wouldn't feel sorry for Justin Herbert.
(21:03):
And I'm a Charger fan, Charger fan, but I will
tell you one thing that is interesting is having gone
to the Packer game and having gone to so many.
I've gone the last going to three Packer games this year,
and I've obviously been to a ton of Charger games,
And I said, the viewing experience is so different because
Packer fans think something good is gonna happen and Charger
(21:25):
fans don't. And once you get to that, once she
can cross over that threshold, then the Chargers will be
cooking something.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Say, let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Hey, Doug, I want to give you credit on something. Okay,
you're right, all was wrong. In fact, I'm going to
do one of two things. I'm going to tell you
where you were right and where you were wrong. We'll
do a little like cowhurtzegment hair. Where Doug was right.
Bill Belichick is going to be a good broadcaster. I
had my doubts. I really did have my doubts. I
(22:13):
thought he was a little too laconic, a little too wooden,
he didn't give us anything. I thought he would be
too short. But he's just like refreshingly raw and honest.
He doesn't run anything by that filter like JJ watt okay,
big douchebag. Everything he says, you get the impression that
(22:34):
he runs it through this filter of is what I'm
about to say gonna sound cool? And then he says it.
Bill Belichick just answers the questions, and he does. He
doesn't really take any prisoners. He doesn't try to savor
any relationships. This is him. So after the game on
Sunday in England, what's his name, Gerrod Mayo, he called
(22:59):
his defensive players soft, and Bill Belichick took issue with
that twice yesterday. I think this was him on McAfee.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
I'm kind of hurt for those guys because they call
them soft. They're not soft. But they were the best
team in the league last year against the run. Those
guys did out there, went out there and did it
even though we couldn't score many points offensively. So I
don't know. I feel bad for the defensive players on
that one, because those guys, that's a tough group. I mean,
John Jones, Gotshaw Wise, Jenny's those those are all the uce.
(23:31):
Those guys are all tough players, like they'll they'll strap
it up and go tugger. I mean, they're tough guys.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
So that's Bill Belichick taking a shot at his protege
basically right. And maybe the protege kicked him in the
ass out the door. And Belichick doesn't have great feelings
about Mayo, but I thought that was great. And then
he went on the Manning Cast last night and said,
whenever we lost, it was my fault. You don't blame
your players. So good for Bill Belichick, and you were
(23:59):
right him being a broadcaster.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Thank you. I think what happens is and not everybody
can do it right. But one, he's been so successful
he's past the point of giving a fuck.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
That's a huge thing. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Secondly, I'm not sure he wants to coach again. That's
the reason that most of these guys their coaches or
milk toast because they all think, hey, I gotta say
the right thing or I'll never get a job. Again,
and like Belichick, either one he doesn't give a shit,
which is part of it, or two he didn't want
another job so he didn't care who he pisses off.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But I think people took his press conference and him
shutting things down and being disengaged like that's not Bill Belichick.
He wouldn't have been able to relate to those players
for as long as he could if he didn't have
a different level of personality, different level of charm.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
That's a great point. There's there's I don't give any fucks,
and then there's I've got a hundred million in the
bank and a twenty five year old girlfriend. That's the
Bill Belichick. I don't give a fuck. So so the
one thing you were wrong on and I'm not going
to say you were totally wrong because nobody knew. But
(25:11):
that's kind of a part of my issue here. Fox
pays Tom Brady, I think fifty million bucks a year
if you've been watching, and I watched the entire game
on Sunday, the Niners game. He does a lot of
Cowboys games. There's a lot of Captain Obvious with his
with his analyst work, there's a there's there's more Magic
(25:32):
Johnson than there is Troy Aikman. You know, there isn't
a whole lot of insight. Great players don't always aren't
able to always be great at describing the game. And
then you saw the story last week after he signed
his ownership deal with the Raiders, where he's not going
to get access to team meetings, He's not going to
get access that most analysts get. So you're already you're
(25:52):
already having a guy that's kind of captain obvious, and
then you're going to handicap him.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Now.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
I understand that there's a lot of resources over at
Fox are going to produce him up and there's gonna
be no shortages of information and whatnot, but again, just
his raw ability to react in real time isn't very
insightful to begin with. So I just I don't know
about Tom Brady, and it was just kind of annoying
(26:17):
all the people right up front who said, oh, Tom
Brady is a great player, he gives great motivational speeches,
He's going to be a great analyst. I'm gonna just
kind of keep keep putting the brakes on that one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, he's it's been disappointing. I think he's he's one
of those where you try to create. He still hasn't
been able to be the off camera Tom Brady on camera.
You know, he's it's still a like performative art for him,
and that it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
(26:50):
It's too robotic, it's too stilted, it's too planned. It's
not he Actually, Tony Romo needs his prep and he
needs that Tony Romo let it rip. And if you
could meet in the middle, you'd have a great broadcaster.
And I honestly think people still would prefer Romo to him.
And I know you don't. You don't enjoy Romo's broadcast,
(27:11):
but by comparison they're a lot more enjoyable to what
Tom Brady's doing.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Yeah, no, I'll give you that. The aesthetics with Romo's tough.
He's still he has that. He has an impossible voice
that greats on you. And then yeah, he's his antics
are annoyed as well. So this third one we talked
about at length on the on the show. I think
it's it's on the radio show. I think it's the
story of the day. I don't know if you knew this,
but Ken Griffy Junior and Ken Griffy Sr. Have been
(27:39):
flown into Los Angeles to attend the Lakers game this
evening yesterday. Bronnie James is the son of world famous
Lebron James. He was asked yesterday by reporters what he
thinks of the Griffy's coming into town and whatnot. Now,
this kid just turned twenty like two weeks ago, so
he's essentially a nine ten year old kid, okay. And
(28:01):
then he was asked if he knows he's playing tonight
and he said no. He looked at the reporters in
the eyes and said, no, I don't know if I'm
playing tonight. The Lakers have been lying this entire offseason
when it comes to everything Bronni, everything Bronni. And now
they have a nineteen year old kid lined for them too.
(28:23):
You really think the team's gonna fly in Ken Griffy
Junior and Senior on a nationally televised game and you're
not gonna play. You don't think that that photo up
with the four of you guys is going to be
all over the internet tonight. You don't think that if
God forbid, Bronni assists Lebron in a bucket or the
other way around. It's gonna break the internet tonight. Everybody's
(28:45):
gonna fall for it. This side show is what it is.
It's kind of cool. Actually, it would be cool if
the Lakers kind of presented it as such. This is
a really cool gesture for one of the most world
famous people on earth and one of the greatest players
ever played the game. He's gonna be on the court
with his son and they're gonna do a fun thing together.
That's a that's a great like side show. But they've
(29:07):
been lying to us from the beginning up to yesterday,
when Brownie actually looked at us with a straight face
and says he doesn't know if he's playing tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I totally agree with you. It's so annoying. It's so disingenuous,
so annoying. Even if you said, and he said, I hope,
so right, like I hope so you know, I you know.
But in the NBA specifically, just so people are aware,
everyone knows who's playing before the game starts. Okay, everyone
(29:39):
knows who's playing for the game starts. That's how professional
basketball works. Where you got to tell because there are
guys that like you can't you won't play him a
night because you're like, hey, you're you're down tonight. So
a guy needs a rehab night, or a guy can
go work out, you know, they have an extra workout
the stay ready guys. There's two buses or two different
workout times for a group of guys that are gonna
(29:59):
play are in a different workout the guys that aren't
gonna play. So the idea that he doesn't know is
a complete and utter lie.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
We both agree on that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Anything else.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
So the brownie side show, the Tom Brady supporters, and
I'm annoying myself for being wrong on Belichick.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I would say the Tom Brady supporters, you know, they
want so badly to have you know, the most successful
quarterback in the history of football, who is is a
good looking dude, be as good a broadcaster as he
was a player as the image that he's concocted is.
And the problem is that it's just it's it's too stiff,
(30:40):
too inorganic, too inorganic.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
At this point, why are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Because we can.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
You know, there are some repeat repeat appearances on this
portion of the podcast, and Kevin Garnett has made repeated appearances.
This subject was on his podcast about the notion that
Joe Embiid is not going to play the second half
of back to backs this year.
Speaker 12 (31:16):
What do you think is a good number of games?
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Eighty two games? Man, this is what the fucking job
calls for.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You're not practicing.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
You're not even playing a whole fucking You're not playing
the summer.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I can see if you're playing in the summer.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
You on the playground, you went the Olympics, then his
training camp. Y'all do thirty days of fucking tour days.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Okay, that's when you get rest.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I don't want to hit this shit.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Man, I don't want to hear none of this shit.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Motherfucker can sit out a back to backs?
Speaker 11 (31:46):
Bro, Bro, listen, we done with that compassion of the
era shit. We're gonna respect this era and what it does,
and that's it. I want don't compare nobody and none
of the shit, because.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You can't if you ain't playing. Man, Man, listen.
Speaker 12 (32:01):
I think that's gonna hurt Philly.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
That's gonna hurt Philly from a not even that, but
bro from a seedingndom. One night I got be next speed,
Next night, I ain't got it.
Speaker 12 (32:15):
You might have to put they might put themselves in
the position to when they played Boston in the first round. Bro,
this is all over the place, real ship, and ain't nobody.
Ain't nobody saying nothing? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (32:26):
Ain't nobody holding nobody accountable?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Bro.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
So so not only are they not gonna practice, they
they're gonna sit out. I got you at fifteen, I
look back to back.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Why could play for you? Because we can't. Look, here's
here's the simple thing. And I know the older generation
all feels like it's it's bullshit, and to a certain
extent it is. I will tell you that they're not
going to be the eighth seed because of it. And
oh yeah, by the way, like Joel Embiad's had a
ton of injuries, so I actually understand it. I do
back to backs. And you know it also gives Paul
(33:02):
George a chance to take over games all nights and
when he's off, and gives other guys a chance to
step up, like I don't. I gotta be honest with you.
I'm while I don't love the load management. I don't
think this one is anything sinister. If he's only missing
on back to backs. Why do we play for you
because we can? All Right, that's it for the In
(33:22):
the Modus podcast, I got the radio show every day
three to three to five Eastern, twelve to Pacific.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
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