December 17, 2024 • 33 mins
Doug addresses the Twitter exchange he had with Adam Schefter Monday night and the subsequent fallout. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take about the current NFL product. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Dan Campbell makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What Up, Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The great thing about this pod is it's not one
hundred and fifty characters or less. We can just talk
about what people were talking about.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And so last night.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Or actually yesterday afternoon, at the end of the show,
it was revealed that Mike Vick or Sacramento State was
interested in hiring Mike Vick, and Adam Schefter tweeted out
that sax State has fifty million dollars in NIOL money,
so I probably couldn't let it go, or there could
(00:55):
have been a difference in wording, right, But it's one
of those those things where if you know how these
insiders work, like somebody calls them, tells them something, and
by my estimation, like, look, you gotta self edit things, right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So what I said to that note was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Adam Schefter said sax State is in discussions to hire
former Pro Bowl quarterback Mike Vick as his new coach.
Per sources, sax State plans to move up to FBS
is building a new stadium and has over a fifty
million in NIL.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They okay, So.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I said, Jesus Schefty, Edit what agents tell you zero
point zero percent chance sax State has fifty million in nil.
He goes on the Sack twelve leading the schools and
NIL efforts already announced it has reached its initial goal
of raising fifty million dollars in NIL to strengthen the
school's case for invitation to the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Or the Mountain West Conference.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So they don't have fifty million in commitments for NIL.
They don't have fifty million in NIL money. What they
have is they've raised future promises of fifty million dollars
for the school for the program if they move up
to FBS. Just so people will understand, it costs somewhere
in the neighborhood of fifty million dollars just to get
(02:27):
a high quality football program going. And I'm not talking
about paying the players. Right then you probably you probably
need one hundred and fifty million dollars. You got to
do stadium upgrades, then you got to do schedule upgrades.
Then you got to pay the coaches. The facilities, you know,
weight room, et cetera, which they have, but they have
(02:49):
no money to go from zero to We have fifty
million dollars in nil. It's like a disingenuous thing to say.
And obviously I could have been less terse.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
With my language.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And that's what And Chefty came from the top rope
and said, what was the tweet?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Jase, do that?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Jesus Doug, I get you had a seven game losing streaking.
You're the bottom of the of the horizon league, less
social media, more time in the gym. So I understand
that I came out across the kind of terse go.
What I would say is more than a little personal
below the belt, especially when it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What she wrote is not actually reality.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And instead of going my bad or again and some
of his reaction to the tone of my tweet, but
the idea that like watching and by the way, I
had two of my players at my house. We're watching
the game games and we're watching film of the team
we're playing tomorrow tomorrow afternoon. It's like, let's just cut
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to brass tacks. Any flaws in my program, in our
program have nothing to do with time spent on the job.
And there's no amount of film breakdown that can get
you to these AHA answers. It's a daily processed time
and time and time, and that's frustrating. And I would
(04:09):
say that last week I reached my peak frustration because
I thought, I think I have a better team than
their record would show. The other reality to it, and
nobody really cares about it is how you schedule is everything.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Even the Division two team we play tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Really good, Michigan Tech, and we played them because they
have some local kids, but they just beat the number
three rate Division two team in the country and one
of the best Division two teams in the country, and
you're like, well, Division one should beat him, Like there's
not that much difference, to be honest, D one D two,
except that the D two guys have played together for
two three, four years, so they're cohesive and they have
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nothing to lose. The number one thing I've learned, actually
there's several things that I've learned in my six months
on the job, but schedule is so important because the
games in your league, you're not better than everybody else,
and you're not that much worse than everybody else. Everyone again,
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injuries notwithstanding, is generally at about about the same level.
The best teams are the best teams by a little
bit more. But we don't have Milwaukee's playing really right
and well right now, we don't have a Gonzaga to
the WCC in our league. We don't have any one
team that's that much better. So you could win every game,
you could lose every game. So outside of your league,
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and then the guarantee games like we played Drake this weekend,
they'll get they're.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Gonna give us a check.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, Outside of those games which are not expected to win,
you got to schedule some wins to teach your team
how to win and to keep your confidence and to
keep other people's confidence in it. And I haven't done that.
I haven't done that. I did a terrible job of
scheduling terrible, way, way, way too difficult. And then the
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other thing is you're just way too young. You know,
we played UC Santa Barbara. One of the best players
is a sophomore, but everybody else is a junior, senior
or super senior. I'm playing a lot of freshmen. And
when my oldest best player goes down with an injury,
as he did early on the second half of that game,
(06:20):
now of a sudden, we get really young. So I'm learning,
I'm processing, uh, and I could do without the body
shots from Schefty and look, there's a world where you
go like, wow, you're asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, maybe maybe you could.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
There's a way in which he could have done it,
but it felt like he was being challenged on his sourcing,
and instead of responding to the questions about it, he
went super nasty, negative personal Jay Stu, you're at your
former member of the jungle, so that was back when
they used to talk shit in the jungle.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
What do you think about the whole interaction.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, it took up most of my Monday night
football night last night. You know, you know me, I'm
all about how things are covered, so I'm on Twitter
all the time. So the yeah, the initial give and
take that was that was one thing. You guys are
disputing facts, and he obviously got the The issue was
(07:23):
your shot at him about agents and the source. That's
how he makes us living. He obviously is close to home,
so he felt the need to lash out at something personal.
And then the aftermath is just it's it's fascinating because
large Twitter accounts quote tweeted it. You know you were
(07:47):
you were the victim of a murder. If you read
Twitter last night, and if you go through the responses,
there were there were reputable accounts that were like, I
know this is a funny thing and everything with the
murder scene, but Gottlieb's actually right. I think you retweeted
one of them. Like, So if you sifted through the
(08:09):
millions of people just wanted to pile on, because you
and I have discussed this before, Doug, you have a
talent of pissing people off. And when you give when
you give someone an avenue to to make fun of
you on Twitter, uh, then it's just a pile on.
But sifting through those responses, you did find people that
(08:32):
agreed with your point. So I think at the end
of the day, I think your original tweet was correct
after the insult was proven correct. But schefter got high
marks for his insult to you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, yep, that's fair. And here's where the here's where
I know I'm right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, because and again some of it is based upon wording,
But Ohio State had the most expensive football team in
the country. The reported spent twenty million dollars in nil. Okay,
So again, if you just read it word for word
off of how he wrote it, that would say we
have that they have two point five x of what
(09:16):
Ohio State has to offer student athletes next year, which
is it's not it's it's just impossible impossible. So yeah,
that's that's basically my read on as well. Sam, what
are your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I'm in line with Jason here. You know, that's just
sort of the unfair thing about Twitter is that people
don't really care about the finer details in the end.
They just if there's someone they don't like or you know,
they they pile on and it is important to maybe
read through those remarks or the comments underneath and see
the people that are actually trying to seek out the truth.
(09:58):
But yeah, I think like just being honest, Doug, like
your original tweet, Yeah, it came off a little bit
crass or I don't know if that's the right term,
and ug little smug, you know, the zero point zero percent,
Like I know his number could be off, wildly off,
but whatever the number is. You know, we can't speak
(10:19):
in unequivocal terms here. We still have to you know,
figure this stuff out. But you know, and then when
he but the thing is is it was. His response
was a cheap shot, because you should be given the
grace of a year or two at least of rebuilding
a team, and just you are doing a radio show,
so it makes you a bigger target. If you're just
(10:40):
coaching and you were two and ten, two and nine,
whatever you are now, I think people would just be like, Okay,
he's rebuilding the program, he's trying to get this going.
But because you're doing the show and you're putting yourself
out there, people are going to take shots at you.
And I thought Chefty was was just going for the
low hanging fruit, the cheap fruit.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
We saw this with remember the last time, last time
you were the victim of a murderer on Twitter, I
think was the Emmanual Acho situation. Now again it was
a it was a matter of wording. Because your initial
tweet to sam Acho or about sam Acho was correct.
He didn't have Pat Mahomes in his top five or something,
(11:19):
and so you pointed that out as being ridiculous. Was correct,
But again you wrote that extra sentence that made it personal,
you know, something like whire that maybe some people shouldn't
be on TV talking about football, Comma and of course
a manual took that part and just started to pile
(11:40):
on and I think that that's probably I mean, again, Doug,
I'm gonna say this. I don't know if it's a
talent or a curse or both. You know how to
piss people off on Twitter, and on Twitter, the negative
publicity makes you move the needle, makes you relevant in
these moments. I don't know how you were feeling as
(12:03):
you were reading all the reactions, but last night, Doug
Gottlieb was relevant and I don't. I don't know if
that's a great thing or a bad thing, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I honestly didn't read the comments. I just had that
that one was sent to me by somebody, and I
was actually watching the game and can't ready for today's practice.
I wasn't the games is a and I wasn't paying
attention to it. Obviously, my phone blew up with people
(12:34):
calling me and doing the quasi like fuck Adam shopped
or bog got like okay, dude. Like the other issue
with it is and here's where I here's where I'm
really kind of at a loss on social media is
the do you take something down? Like when it comes
off poorly. Like what happened was I tweeted that and
(12:55):
then I was at home for a couple of hours
and I wasn't paying attention to anything, and then all
of a sudden, something's like, dude, you're you're you're going viral.
I'm like, for what, like an Adam Schefter tweet. I
was like, oh, so then I looked, And the problem
is at that point if you take it down sometimes
it's like a act of shame.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Took down your tweet.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Never take anything down, and unless unless it's going to
get you in trouble, you know, weegally or whatever. But no,
I will say, with very few exceptions, never take it down.
Because you you also made ways with that tweet a
few weeks ago about the December schedule. You could have
you could have taken it down at some point because
you were getting a lot of negative attention, but you
kept it up and I think it's still up, and
(13:37):
I think that's the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I just don't understand on that one, understand how people
don't have a fucking sense of humor. I'm a guy
who doesn't take any time off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well it's just dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
But again, it's just a cesspool of negativity and who
can we who can we out? And I fully admit
that the first line of the shafter thing, I got
it again. Part of it is I know how it
actually works, right, and he's amazing at what he does.
But let's just be honest, like that is very simply
(14:10):
a cut and paste from somebody without asking deep questions. Wait, wait,
fifty million dollars right to nil, right to the players. Well, no,
it's a fifty million dollar commitment over ten years, and
it's for the building of the program. If they get
at the FBS, like they don't have fifty million dollars
on hand. And that's what his tweet made you assume, like,
(14:33):
you hire Mike Vick, you got fifty million dollars to
go buy a team. If that's the case, it's brilliant.
And yet you can build a team almost overnight, almost overnight,
a college football team, a competitive one in the non
SEC non Big ten is in the you know, seven
(14:54):
to ten eleven million dollar range, that's in the Big twelve,
acc you whatever, twenty million dollars is absolute top of
the scale. And then you have schools like Boise who
are around and you got probably a couple million dollars
in NIL. That's not an overall investment from the school.
(15:15):
It costs a couple hundred million dollars to run a
college football program, and then to build one from scratch,
To build one from Division one Double A or FCS
to FBS costs you know, somewhere in the depending up
on where you are, stadium coaching wise, staff wise, scholarship wise,
nil wise, you're talking seventy five to one hundred million
dollars just to start the program's before you get to
(15:37):
the nil piece of it. So but the problem is
that these all these arguments go away from what it's
really about, which is the number fifty million. Instead it
became very very personal, and I actually do understand why
he got little huffy, but I don't think I thought
he went you know, it's like it's like you've seen
(15:58):
some of that videos where somebody like bump shoulders with
you and then you go break out, like, you know,
fifteen karate chops to somebody who's unsuspecting because they bump
shoulders with you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Thirty minutes ago, and.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
For the record, just for our listeners, we reached out
to Schefter to see if you wanted to come on
and talk about it. His response was, no, thank you
and happy holidays. So it's just a really, you know,
a nice positive decline.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (16:35):
Let's get to the Fox As and Now what say
every day?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast,
we bring you a previous portion of Fox Sports Radio
Fox Sports One Show.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Here's Colin Cowher talking about the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
The ownership, bottom three team president, a young general manager,
hit and miss. If he laughed, fine, if he stayed okay,
coaching staff, none of it worked, none of it. Yeah,
they got some decent players. The Jets have all sorts
of good players. They're four and ten. And Caleb Williams,
who was privately concerned before the draft but didn't want
(17:10):
to be a bad guy. This was his nightmare. They
have no leadership top down. By the way, how do
you fix it? Well, the only way to fix it
go to the Chargers, who also had a really good
young quarterback, had a handful of really, really good players,
(17:31):
and they went and stopped screwing around and finally paid
big money for a coach and they have not regretted
a second of it. They had a bad culture why,
most notably, they had a coach, Brandon Staley, that was
completely over his skis. Just like the Bear staff. There
is only one answer to this. It's Mike Vrabel. That's it.
(17:55):
There're no other answers, no more lightweights, no more coordinators.
This lift is too big.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I like Mike Crabele. I think that one works. I
don't know if they would consider that though. Remember you
have a GM that came over from Kansas City. You
have a president who was with the Minnesota Vikings. You're
going back, you know, six seven years ago. And I
(18:24):
don't know how this thing all works, but I agree
with I agree with Colin. I love Mike Frabele. I
can't believe Tennessee moved on from him. But I think
Mike Ray will be a great hire. Usually we contradict
what we hear in what the fox says. I think
that's a brilliant pick. Here's Brady Quinn talking about the
current NFL product.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
We've done this show now for years together, and I
can't recall another year like this where you've had this
many games. I think the general point as I look
at this, and I feel bad because people listen out
there to us right now. Like I know a lot
of people look forward to Sundays. I know a lot
of people look forward even Monday night, Thursday night, whatever
it is in the NFL, to have that get away
(19:04):
from whatever else is going on in their life. Like
and I know you want us to be open and
honest and to tell you what we see or what
we're thinking, or analyze something or laugh about something else.
The problem is this years stood out. The NFL lack
of parody is real, and it's starting to play itself
out to the point where if I am Roger Goodell,
(19:29):
I've got to be honest with the owners and say, you,
guys might not care about this. This is a crappy product.
This is hard to turn on. And maybe you different,
maybe people different with how they feel about it. But
when I sit there and watch something like this is
not the product that I think a lot of people
hope and sign up to see. And they need to
(19:49):
extend the off seasons. They need to allow quarterbacks to
go back to quarterback school and allow these guys to
have more time, not less. Because you see this, you
see this product at every single level and position. It's
not as good as it could be.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, i'd agree there, but I just I don't know
how much more training quarterbacks can have, right they're trained
from the time they're like thirteen fourteen years old. There's
just a limited number of people who can pull it off.
It's that hard, you know, in this profession. And I
actually think that the exploding quarterback market and how we're
paying people we talked about this solo on the radio show.
(20:27):
I actually think that's to the detriment of quarterbacks because
so many of them need a quality team around them.
So you can get sixty million dollars, but if you
get sixty million dollars, you are just you're not going
to have a very good roster around you. This it
makes sense like the I don't know if you'd say
the quarterback market or I don't know if you'd say
(20:54):
it's not just a quarterback market, But I don't know
if you would really really understand, say, hey, it's the
quarterback market combined with the salary cap and how that
all works I actually think that that makes it. I
don't think there's this many below average quarterbacks, but they
play below average because some of the good ones have
(21:14):
these ridiculous contracts and they gotta cut corners.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
They gotta cut corners no matter how good you are.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And we'd all agree Pat Mahomes is amazing right this year,
he hasn't been able to be amazing because you don't
have a great team around him. And it's not for
lack of trying it. You can only afford so much,
only afford so much. This is Dan Patrick talking about
the declining interest in ratings in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
People would go, what, oh, you know, the purity of
the gate? What are you doing? Okay, we're past that.
This is about getting eyeballs. And this is what Adam
Silver is going to have to do. At some point.
He's going to have to take a swing. He's gonna
have to have a golden net bat. He's gonna have
to have something that is interesting, intriguing, different, a tune
(22:04):
in factor. Now they've tried to do this with the
basketball courts, and I'm fine with it. You know, you're
looking for a younger audience. I get it, But maybe
we add something to those colorful courts, you know, maybe
there's a blinking three point line, maybe there's something inside.
Like I was told during the pandemic, and I was
(22:26):
told by a great source that the NBA was looking
at creating courts that would resemble pinball machines so it
would be a little bit more live.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
I know it sounds gimmicky, but I think you've got
to get to the point where can we keep up?
Can we keep our place in the sports landscape here,
because we've seen sports that just fall off, horse racing, boxing,
they fall off, baseball, that was America's pastime fell off.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know if making it like a pinball, I
don't think the courts and how the game boring the
games can be. I don't think three point shooting is
the reason. I think it's very very simple. Okay, it's
on all the time. There's always been this number of games,
but they weren't on TV all the time. There's nothing
(23:19):
special about an NBA game being on TV.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They're always on, always on, And you know it's like, well,
guys don't play as hard as they should.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
They never have.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
They never have the difference between the NBA and the NFL.
Though the NFL has expanded a number of games in Europe, Okay,
for the most part, it's still the same time. It's
still the same days, right Thursday, Sunday, Monday. Occasionally those
days change based upon when Christmas is and the Saturday
(23:56):
game is coming up, So there's something special about those days.
NBA games run national TV all the time, all the time,
and I believe that if it was always like this,
the numbers never would have been good. That's the biggest
change in the NBA now versus the NBA.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Then that's what the Fox say is.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And now it's your annoying, hey, Doug.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
So yesterday we talked about this. We found the online
response to Travis Hunter's girlfriend. We've found that off putting.
What it's no stranger's business to understand the dynamics within
a loving relationship. Well, Shannon Sharp took to his massive
platform with an uzi on this on Travis Hunter's fiance. Now,
(25:09):
she had posted something yesterday that tried to explain away
some of the grief she was getting online, and she
kind of dug herself a bigger hole. But I want
to listen to this, and I got a point to
make for you to talk about.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Well, the reason why I left him for my inbox, well,
you know he's younger than me, and he cheated. You see,
now you threw that man on the bus. We didn't
need to know that. We did not need to know that.
Why you put that man business in the street? Are
you perfect?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't like the.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Part of oversharing in a relationship because it was unnecessary.
Why you and Travis gott together? Did you have to
say he wasn't my type? That was for nobody to know.
You don't have to share everything people you don't. And
now it makes me it's none of my business, but
it makes you, It makes you, It paints you in.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
A bad life.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Oh, he wasn't your type, but now he is my type. Well,
theme like your type might be George Washington, Ben Franklin,
you listened there the grant, It might be some of
those you know what.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I'm saying yah yea, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I love how Shannon says it's not my business somewhere
in there before calling her a gold digging person that
puts his uh puts his business out on front Street.
Yet again, I I don't know why I'm so sensitive
to this because I usually, like I like, you know,
drama and gossip and ship. But like, I just I
don't understand why so many people have an opinion about
(26:38):
Travis Hunter's relationship. What's going on here? What, what's what's
the bottom, what's at the bottom of this?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Uh, just there's been some bad visuals with her in
the past, and I think, you know, everybody wants everybody
wants the the the longtime girlfriend to just be super
supportive and and just be a prop And there's some
real healthy some of these relationships are super healthy. And
I think we you know, you like, people want to
people want to parent Travis Hunter. He also like he
(27:05):
does a pod. He's out there. You know, people think
they know her, know him. You know, some talk does
she have an OnlyFans account? It's like all kinds of stuff,
all kinds of rumors flying. I don't know, I actually
kind of agree with Shannon here. It's like, why why
does everyone have to know all these details of your life?
Because when you do that, much like what we talked
about with with with with Schefters, like once things get
(27:29):
out and get public, okay, then all of a sudden,
like what we said, Twitter becomes super negative, Instagram super negative,
TikTok super negative. We pick apart other people's worlds, not
really out of an act to protect Travis Hunter, but
just because we think it's our job to do so,
and we can make fun of We can make fun
(27:50):
of people who have achieved some sort of celebrity status
above that of ours.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
No, I think you're right on that. I just think
about where I was it twenty one or however old
the guy is. He's made millions of dollars already, he's
about to make break the bank, and he just keeps
getting this information about how to run his relationship. I
can only imagine what I would have done at twenty one.
But remember last week Xavier Legette, receiver for the Panthers,
(28:21):
he admitted to eating a lot of raccoon. Jerry Jones
was asked about it on his radio.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Hit Today, I've eaten a lot of raccoon. Yes the
answers yes, and I've eaten it. I've eaten and it hunting.
I've actually had it served my mom at the table
away from honey. It's not uncommon at all.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
I'll tell you something that one of my favorites is
whirl and it's wonderful and my mother could do a
great job of it. And we all had our favorite pieces.
And my dad and sister. I have one sibling, a sister,
and they would fight over, not fight, but my mom
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and I they were just my sister and I as
far I said. But my mom and I wouldn't even
ask for the brain and a squirrel, oh man, and delicious. Seriously.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Now, I don't have a sophisticated palate. I don't, but
I do draw the line at vermin rodents. And this
is the reason why, Doug, it's not necessarily the meat
that you're eating, it's what that meat has been eating.
And I'm going to bring salmon here because he in
our off air conversations, he seems to fancy himself kind
(29:40):
of a dietitian, somebody who knows a lot about what
you put into your body. Rodents consume a lot of
toxic shit. They live in sewers. How could you possibly
think you can consume a raccoon. I wouldn't eat raccoon.
You're right, they eat garbage. They are both woodland creatures
(30:01):
and urban dwellers. They'll eat out of dumpsters, the'll eat
out of your garbage. But then if they live in
the forest, they're eating you know, little nuts and you
know tubers and berries and whatnot. But squirrel, squirrels are
out there eating walnuts and you know, mostly natural organic
stuff in the forest. I don't know about a raccoon.
I don't think i'd eat raccoon, never have, and I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I ever wild A squirrel sounds like something that could
be actually be good for you. Yeah, they do eat
the nuts, right, right, we're all we're all taught to eat.
You eat nuts, yet's good fats.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Right, And so a squirrel, I think that meat is
gonna be if you are what you eat, right, that
meat is going to be like more pure and healthy.
But like if you're eating raccoon, and like, there are
raccoons that live in the in the neighborhood, and they
they live in the sewers, and they eat garbage and stuff.
Maybe mister Lagette is eating those like pure country raccoons
that are just eating the natural stuff out there. But
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if it was a an urban dwelling raccoon, I don't
think it'd be quite as healthy. Just my just my
personal non doctor opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Anything else do no.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Racoon eaters meant? And what was the initial one? Just
people and other people's business online.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
People in other people's business online.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm needing a lot of Right, why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I do because we can.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So this sound came with a visual and I'm looking
at it because you know, we we work in radio,
so we know exactly what goes into this. Dan Campbell
goes on this minute long rant, drops a couple F
bombs and I'm thinking, you get one dump and then
it needs to like regenerate. I'm thinking the second F
bomb went on the air, maybe Sam can make the
call on this go ahead.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
You know what happens is, you know, you win eleven
in a row, you know, and you lose and then
a sky falls And I hate to say it, but
we're not going to be able to win eleven in
a row again for the rest of this season. We're
just not going to be able to do it. And
you know what happens is you get used to eating
fil a and I'm talking to all of us and well,
everything's good, life's good, you know, And but you forgot
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what it was like when you had nothing and he
ate your fucking molded bread, you know, and it was
just fine, and he gave you everything you needed. And
sometimes you got to get punched in the mouth and
remember what it used to be like to really appreciate
where you are. And we'll do that. And so we
got a bad taste in our mouth. We got kicked
around the other day. We lost a few guys, and
you know what, it's exactly what we needed. This is
(32:28):
exactly what we needed. So we're going to bounce back.
We're gonna respond. We got guys that are going to
about to have an unbelievable opportunity here and we will
play the game anyway needed to win. We still got
a good offense, we got plenty of defensive players. I
can go rattle them off right now. We're gonna put
the best eleven on the field. We're gonna freaking cut
it loose. We're gonna play with our special teams, and
I don't give a crap. If we got to win
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by one point for the rest of the year, that's
what we're going to do, and I'm going to be
happy about it. We come out of the game with
fifty yards of total offense and we win by one,
you're going to see smiles on my face, I promise you.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
All right.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
If it's the other way defensively, we give up seven
hundred yards and we went by one point, you're going
to see a fucking smile from my ear to ear.
All right, I can promise you. So we're gonna find
a way and we're gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's pretty good. And yeah, the F bomb didn't get through,
really did get through.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Well, here's the thing, so he cursed at the beginning,
he cursed at the end. I think if if I
was in that position, you can kind of also manipulate
your dump length a little bit. But if I didn't
jump out about ten seconds of that, it would have
I would have had another one to begin with. That
would have been my backup, but it would have regenerated
by the time he dropped that second F bomb. So
I think the tech producer there is is sitting clean today.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's just my personality, nonct your opinion. Why could we
play it for you? Because we can. That's it for
the end The Modus Podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I got the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Tradio.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I hought radio app. I'm Doug Gotlieg
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What Up, Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
The great thing about this pod is it's not one
hundred and fifty characters or less. We can just talk
about what people were talking about.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And so last night.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Or actually yesterday afternoon, at the end of the show,
it was revealed that Mike Vick or Sacramento State was
interested in hiring Mike Vick, and Adam Schefter tweeted out
that sax State has fifty million dollars in NIOL money,
so I probably couldn't let it go, or there could
(00:55):
have been a difference in wording, right, But it's one
of those those things where if you know how these
insiders work, like somebody calls them, tells them something, and
by my estimation, like, look, you gotta self edit things, right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So what I said to that note was.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Adam Schefter said sax State is in discussions to hire
former Pro Bowl quarterback Mike Vick as his new coach.
Per sources, sax State plans to move up to FBS
is building a new stadium and has over a fifty
million in NIL.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They okay, So.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I said, Jesus Schefty, Edit what agents tell you zero
point zero percent chance sax State has fifty million in nil.
He goes on the Sack twelve leading the schools and
NIL efforts already announced it has reached its initial goal
of raising fifty million dollars in NIL to strengthen the
school's case for invitation to the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Or the Mountain West Conference.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So they don't have fifty million in commitments for NIL.
They don't have fifty million in NIL money. What they
have is they've raised future promises of fifty million dollars
for the school for the program if they move up
to FBS. Just so people will understand, it costs somewhere
in the neighborhood of fifty million dollars just to get
(02:27):
a high quality football program going. And I'm not talking
about paying the players. Right then you probably you probably
need one hundred and fifty million dollars. You got to
do stadium upgrades, then you got to do schedule upgrades.
Then you got to pay the coaches. The facilities, you know,
weight room, et cetera, which they have, but they have
(02:49):
no money to go from zero to We have fifty
million dollars in nil. It's like a disingenuous thing to say.
And obviously I could have been less terse.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
With my language.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And that's what And Chefty came from the top rope
and said, what was the tweet?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Jase, do that?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Jesus Doug, I get you had a seven game losing streaking.
You're the bottom of the of the horizon league, less
social media, more time in the gym. So I understand
that I came out across the kind of terse go.
What I would say is more than a little personal
below the belt, especially when it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What she wrote is not actually reality.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And instead of going my bad or again and some
of his reaction to the tone of my tweet, but
the idea that like watching and by the way, I
had two of my players at my house. We're watching
the game games and we're watching film of the team
we're playing tomorrow tomorrow afternoon. It's like, let's just cut
(03:49):
to brass tacks. Any flaws in my program, in our
program have nothing to do with time spent on the job.
And there's no amount of film breakdown that can get
you to these AHA answers. It's a daily processed time
and time and time, and that's frustrating. And I would
(04:09):
say that last week I reached my peak frustration because
I thought, I think I have a better team than
their record would show. The other reality to it, and
nobody really cares about it is how you schedule is everything.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Even the Division two team we play tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Really good, Michigan Tech, and we played them because they
have some local kids, but they just beat the number
three rate Division two team in the country and one
of the best Division two teams in the country, and
you're like, well, Division one should beat him, Like there's
not that much difference, to be honest, D one D two,
except that the D two guys have played together for
two three, four years, so they're cohesive and they have
(04:48):
nothing to lose. The number one thing I've learned, actually
there's several things that I've learned in my six months
on the job, but schedule is so important because the
games in your league, you're not better than everybody else,
and you're not that much worse than everybody else. Everyone again,
(05:12):
injuries notwithstanding, is generally at about about the same level.
The best teams are the best teams by a little
bit more. But we don't have Milwaukee's playing really right
and well right now, we don't have a Gonzaga to
the WCC in our league. We don't have any one
team that's that much better. So you could win every game,
you could lose every game. So outside of your league,
(05:33):
and then the guarantee games like we played Drake this weekend,
they'll get they're.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Gonna give us a check.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, Outside of those games which are not expected to win,
you got to schedule some wins to teach your team
how to win and to keep your confidence and to
keep other people's confidence in it. And I haven't done that.
I haven't done that. I did a terrible job of
scheduling terrible, way, way, way too difficult. And then the
(05:59):
other thing is you're just way too young. You know,
we played UC Santa Barbara. One of the best players
is a sophomore, but everybody else is a junior, senior
or super senior. I'm playing a lot of freshmen. And
when my oldest best player goes down with an injury,
as he did early on the second half of that game,
(06:20):
now of a sudden, we get really young. So I'm learning,
I'm processing, uh, and I could do without the body
shots from Schefty and look, there's a world where you
go like, wow, you're asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, maybe maybe you could.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
There's a way in which he could have done it,
but it felt like he was being challenged on his sourcing,
and instead of responding to the questions about it, he
went super nasty, negative personal Jay Stu, you're at your
former member of the jungle, so that was back when
they used to talk shit in the jungle.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
What do you think about the whole interaction.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean, it took up most of my Monday night
football night last night. You know, you know me, I'm
all about how things are covered, so I'm on Twitter
all the time. So the yeah, the initial give and
take that was that was one thing. You guys are
disputing facts, and he obviously got the The issue was
(07:23):
your shot at him about agents and the source. That's
how he makes us living. He obviously is close to home,
so he felt the need to lash out at something personal.
And then the aftermath is just it's it's fascinating because
large Twitter accounts quote tweeted it. You know you were
(07:47):
you were the victim of a murder. If you read
Twitter last night, and if you go through the responses,
there were there were reputable accounts that were like, I
know this is a funny thing and everything with the
murder scene, but Gottlieb's actually right. I think you retweeted
one of them. Like, So if you sifted through the
(08:09):
millions of people just wanted to pile on, because you
and I have discussed this before, Doug, you have a
talent of pissing people off. And when you give when
you give someone an avenue to to make fun of
you on Twitter, uh, then it's just a pile on.
But sifting through those responses, you did find people that
(08:32):
agreed with your point. So I think at the end
of the day, I think your original tweet was correct
after the insult was proven correct. But schefter got high
marks for his insult to you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, yep, that's fair. And here's where the here's where
I know I'm right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, because and again some of it is based upon wording,
But Ohio State had the most expensive football team in
the country. The reported spent twenty million dollars in nil. Okay,
So again, if you just read it word for word
off of how he wrote it, that would say we
have that they have two point five x of what
(09:16):
Ohio State has to offer student athletes next year, which
is it's not it's it's just impossible impossible. So yeah,
that's that's basically my read on as well. Sam, what
are your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I'm in line with Jason here. You know, that's just
sort of the unfair thing about Twitter is that people
don't really care about the finer details in the end.
They just if there's someone they don't like or you know,
they they pile on and it is important to maybe
read through those remarks or the comments underneath and see
the people that are actually trying to seek out the truth.
(09:58):
But yeah, I think like just being honest, Doug, like
your original tweet, Yeah, it came off a little bit
crass or I don't know if that's the right term,
and ug little smug, you know, the zero point zero percent,
Like I know his number could be off, wildly off,
but whatever the number is. You know, we can't speak
(10:19):
in unequivocal terms here. We still have to you know,
figure this stuff out. But you know, and then when
he but the thing is is it was. His response
was a cheap shot, because you should be given the
grace of a year or two at least of rebuilding
a team, and just you are doing a radio show,
so it makes you a bigger target. If you're just
(10:40):
coaching and you were two and ten, two and nine,
whatever you are now, I think people would just be like, Okay,
he's rebuilding the program, he's trying to get this going.
But because you're doing the show and you're putting yourself
out there, people are going to take shots at you.
And I thought Chefty was was just going for the
low hanging fruit, the cheap fruit.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
We saw this with remember the last time, last time
you were the victim of a murderer on Twitter, I
think was the Emmanual Acho situation. Now again it was
a it was a matter of wording. Because your initial
tweet to sam Acho or about sam Acho was correct.
He didn't have Pat Mahomes in his top five or something,
(11:19):
and so you pointed that out as being ridiculous. Was correct,
But again you wrote that extra sentence that made it personal,
you know, something like whire that maybe some people shouldn't
be on TV talking about football, Comma and of course
a manual took that part and just started to pile
(11:40):
on and I think that that's probably I mean, again, Doug,
I'm gonna say this. I don't know if it's a
talent or a curse or both. You know how to
piss people off on Twitter, and on Twitter, the negative
publicity makes you move the needle, makes you relevant in
these moments. I don't know how you were feeling as
(12:03):
you were reading all the reactions, but last night, Doug
Gottlieb was relevant and I don't. I don't know if
that's a great thing or a bad thing, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I honestly didn't read the comments. I just had that
that one was sent to me by somebody, and I
was actually watching the game and can't ready for today's practice.
I wasn't the games is a and I wasn't paying
attention to it. Obviously, my phone blew up with people
(12:34):
calling me and doing the quasi like fuck Adam shopped
or bog got like okay, dude. Like the other issue
with it is and here's where I here's where I'm
really kind of at a loss on social media is
the do you take something down? Like when it comes
off poorly. Like what happened was I tweeted that and
(12:55):
then I was at home for a couple of hours
and I wasn't paying attention to anything, and then all
of a sudden, something's like, dude, you're you're you're going viral.
I'm like, for what, like an Adam Schefter tweet. I
was like, oh, so then I looked, And the problem
is at that point if you take it down sometimes
it's like a act of shame.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Took down your tweet.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Never take anything down, and unless unless it's going to
get you in trouble, you know, weegally or whatever. But no,
I will say, with very few exceptions, never take it down.
Because you you also made ways with that tweet a
few weeks ago about the December schedule. You could have
you could have taken it down at some point because
you were getting a lot of negative attention, but you
kept it up and I think it's still up, and
(13:37):
I think that's the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I just don't understand on that one, understand how people
don't have a fucking sense of humor. I'm a guy
who doesn't take any time off.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well it's just dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
But again, it's just a cesspool of negativity and who
can we who can we out? And I fully admit
that the first line of the shafter thing, I got
it again. Part of it is I know how it
actually works, right, and he's amazing at what he does.
But let's just be honest, like that is very simply
(14:10):
a cut and paste from somebody without asking deep questions. Wait, wait,
fifty million dollars right to nil, right to the players. Well, no,
it's a fifty million dollar commitment over ten years, and
it's for the building of the program. If they get
at the FBS, like they don't have fifty million dollars
on hand. And that's what his tweet made you assume, like,
(14:33):
you hire Mike Vick, you got fifty million dollars to
go buy a team. If that's the case, it's brilliant.
And yet you can build a team almost overnight, almost overnight,
a college football team, a competitive one in the non
SEC non Big ten is in the you know, seven
(14:54):
to ten eleven million dollar range, that's in the Big twelve,
acc you whatever, twenty million dollars is absolute top of
the scale. And then you have schools like Boise who
are around and you got probably a couple million dollars
in NIL. That's not an overall investment from the school.
(15:15):
It costs a couple hundred million dollars to run a
college football program, and then to build one from scratch,
To build one from Division one Double A or FCS
to FBS costs you know, somewhere in the depending up
on where you are, stadium coaching wise, staff wise, scholarship wise,
nil wise, you're talking seventy five to one hundred million
dollars just to start the program's before you get to
(15:37):
the nil piece of it. So but the problem is
that these all these arguments go away from what it's
really about, which is the number fifty million. Instead it
became very very personal, and I actually do understand why
he got little huffy, but I don't think I thought
he went you know, it's like it's like you've seen
(15:58):
some of that videos where somebody like bump shoulders with
you and then you go break out, like, you know,
fifteen karate chops to somebody who's unsuspecting because they bump
shoulders with you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Thirty minutes ago, and.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
For the record, just for our listeners, we reached out
to Schefter to see if you wanted to come on
and talk about it. His response was, no, thank you
and happy holidays. So it's just a really, you know,
a nice positive decline.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Let's get to the Fox As and Now what say
every day?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
This time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast,
we bring you a previous portion of Fox Sports Radio
Fox Sports One Show.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Here's Colin Cowher talking about the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
The ownership, bottom three team president, a young general manager,
hit and miss. If he laughed, fine, if he stayed okay,
coaching staff, none of it worked, none of it. Yeah,
they got some decent players. The Jets have all sorts
of good players. They're four and ten. And Caleb Williams,
who was privately concerned before the draft but didn't want
(17:10):
to be a bad guy. This was his nightmare. They
have no leadership top down. By the way, how do
you fix it? Well, the only way to fix it
go to the Chargers, who also had a really good
young quarterback, had a handful of really, really good players,
(17:31):
and they went and stopped screwing around and finally paid
big money for a coach and they have not regretted
a second of it. They had a bad culture why,
most notably, they had a coach, Brandon Staley, that was
completely over his skis. Just like the Bear staff. There
is only one answer to this. It's Mike Vrabel. That's it.
(17:55):
There're no other answers, no more lightweights, no more coordinators.
This lift is too big.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I like Mike Crabele. I think that one works. I
don't know if they would consider that though. Remember you
have a GM that came over from Kansas City. You
have a president who was with the Minnesota Vikings. You're
going back, you know, six seven years ago. And I
(18:24):
don't know how this thing all works, but I agree
with I agree with Colin. I love Mike Frabele. I
can't believe Tennessee moved on from him. But I think
Mike Ray will be a great hire. Usually we contradict
what we hear in what the fox says. I think
that's a brilliant pick. Here's Brady Quinn talking about the
current NFL product.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
We've done this show now for years together, and I
can't recall another year like this where you've had this
many games. I think the general point as I look
at this, and I feel bad because people listen out
there to us right now. Like I know a lot
of people look forward to Sundays. I know a lot
of people look forward even Monday night, Thursday night, whatever
it is in the NFL, to have that get away
(19:04):
from whatever else is going on in their life. Like
and I know you want us to be open and
honest and to tell you what we see or what
we're thinking, or analyze something or laugh about something else.
The problem is this years stood out. The NFL lack
of parody is real, and it's starting to play itself
out to the point where if I am Roger Goodell,
(19:29):
I've got to be honest with the owners and say, you,
guys might not care about this. This is a crappy product.
This is hard to turn on. And maybe you different,
maybe people different with how they feel about it. But
when I sit there and watch something like this is
not the product that I think a lot of people
hope and sign up to see. And they need to
(19:49):
extend the off seasons. They need to allow quarterbacks to
go back to quarterback school and allow these guys to
have more time, not less. Because you see this, you
see this product at every single level and position. It's
not as good as it could be.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, i'd agree there, but I just I don't know
how much more training quarterbacks can have, right they're trained
from the time they're like thirteen fourteen years old. There's
just a limited number of people who can pull it off.
It's that hard, you know, in this profession. And I
actually think that the exploding quarterback market and how we're
paying people we talked about this solo on the radio show.
(20:27):
I actually think that's to the detriment of quarterbacks because
so many of them need a quality team around them.
So you can get sixty million dollars, but if you
get sixty million dollars, you are just you're not going
to have a very good roster around you. This it
makes sense like the I don't know if you'd say
the quarterback market or I don't know if you'd say
(20:54):
it's not just a quarterback market, But I don't know
if you would really really understand, say, hey, it's the
quarterback market combined with the salary cap and how that
all works I actually think that that makes it. I
don't think there's this many below average quarterbacks, but they
play below average because some of the good ones have
(21:14):
these ridiculous contracts and they gotta cut corners.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
They gotta cut corners no matter how good you are.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And we'd all agree Pat Mahomes is amazing right this year,
he hasn't been able to be amazing because you don't
have a great team around him. And it's not for
lack of trying it. You can only afford so much,
only afford so much. This is Dan Patrick talking about
the declining interest in ratings in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
People would go, what, oh, you know, the purity of
the gate? What are you doing? Okay, we're past that.
This is about getting eyeballs. And this is what Adam
Silver is going to have to do. At some point.
He's going to have to take a swing. He's gonna
have to have a golden net bat. He's gonna have
to have something that is interesting, intriguing, different, a tune
(22:04):
in factor. Now they've tried to do this with the
basketball courts, and I'm fine with it. You know, you're
looking for a younger audience. I get it, But maybe
we add something to those colorful courts, you know, maybe
there's a blinking three point line, maybe there's something inside.
Like I was told during the pandemic, and I was
(22:26):
told by a great source that the NBA was looking
at creating courts that would resemble pinball machines so it
would be a little bit more live.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
I know it sounds gimmicky, but I think you've got
to get to the point where can we keep up?
Can we keep our place in the sports landscape here,
because we've seen sports that just fall off, horse racing, boxing,
they fall off, baseball, that was America's pastime fell off.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know if making it like a pinball, I
don't think the courts and how the game boring the
games can be. I don't think three point shooting is
the reason. I think it's very very simple. Okay, it's
on all the time. There's always been this number of games,
but they weren't on TV all the time. There's nothing
(23:19):
special about an NBA game being on TV.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They're always on, always on, And you know it's like, well,
guys don't play as hard as they should.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
They never have.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
They never have the difference between the NBA and the NFL.
Though the NFL has expanded a number of games in Europe, Okay,
for the most part, it's still the same time. It's
still the same days, right Thursday, Sunday, Monday. Occasionally those
days change based upon when Christmas is and the Saturday
(23:56):
game is coming up, So there's something special about those days.
NBA games run national TV all the time, all the time,
and I believe that if it was always like this,
the numbers never would have been good. That's the biggest
change in the NBA now versus the NBA.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Then that's what the Fox say is.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And now it's your annoying, hey, Doug.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
So yesterday we talked about this. We found the online
response to Travis Hunter's girlfriend. We've found that off putting.
What it's no stranger's business to understand the dynamics within
a loving relationship. Well, Shannon Sharp took to his massive
platform with an uzi on this on Travis Hunter's fiance. Now,
(25:09):
she had posted something yesterday that tried to explain away
some of the grief she was getting online, and she
kind of dug herself a bigger hole. But I want
to listen to this, and I got a point to
make for you to talk about.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
Well, the reason why I left him for my inbox, well,
you know he's younger than me, and he cheated. You see,
now you threw that man on the bus. We didn't
need to know that. We did not need to know that.
Why you put that man business in the street? Are
you perfect?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't like the.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
Part of oversharing in a relationship because it was unnecessary.
Why you and Travis gott together? Did you have to
say he wasn't my type? That was for nobody to know.
You don't have to share everything people you don't. And
now it makes me it's none of my business, but
it makes you, It makes you, It paints you in.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
A bad life.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Oh, he wasn't your type, but now he is my type. Well,
theme like your type might be George Washington, Ben Franklin,
you listened there the grant, It might be some of
those you know what.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I'm saying yah yea, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I love how Shannon says it's not my business somewhere
in there before calling her a gold digging person that
puts his uh puts his business out on front Street.
Yet again, I I don't know why I'm so sensitive
to this because I usually, like I like, you know,
drama and gossip and ship. But like, I just I
don't understand why so many people have an opinion about
(26:38):
Travis Hunter's relationship. What's going on here? What, what's what's
the bottom, what's at the bottom of this?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Uh, just there's been some bad visuals with her in
the past, and I think, you know, everybody wants everybody
wants the the the longtime girlfriend to just be super
supportive and and just be a prop And there's some
real healthy some of these relationships are super healthy. And
I think we you know, you like, people want to
people want to parent Travis Hunter. He also like he
(27:05):
does a pod. He's out there. You know, people think
they know her, know him. You know, some talk does
she have an OnlyFans account? It's like all kinds of stuff,
all kinds of rumors flying. I don't know, I actually
kind of agree with Shannon here. It's like, why why
does everyone have to know all these details of your life?
Because when you do that, much like what we talked
about with with with with Schefters, like once things get
(27:29):
out and get public, okay, then all of a sudden,
like what we said, Twitter becomes super negative, Instagram super negative,
TikTok super negative. We pick apart other people's worlds, not
really out of an act to protect Travis Hunter, but
just because we think it's our job to do so,
and we can make fun of We can make fun
(27:50):
of people who have achieved some sort of celebrity status
above that of ours.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
No, I think you're right on that. I just think
about where I was it twenty one or however old
the guy is. He's made millions of dollars already, he's
about to make break the bank, and he just keeps
getting this information about how to run his relationship. I
can only imagine what I would have done at twenty one.
But remember last week Xavier Legette, receiver for the Panthers,
(28:21):
he admitted to eating a lot of raccoon. Jerry Jones
was asked about it on his radio.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Hit Today, I've eaten a lot of raccoon. Yes the
answers yes, and I've eaten it. I've eaten and it hunting.
I've actually had it served my mom at the table
away from honey. It's not uncommon at all.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
I'll tell you something that one of my favorites is
whirl and it's wonderful and my mother could do a
great job of it. And we all had our favorite pieces.
And my dad and sister. I have one sibling, a sister,
and they would fight over, not fight, but my mom
(29:04):
and I they were just my sister and I as
far I said. But my mom and I wouldn't even
ask for the brain and a squirrel, oh man, and delicious. Seriously.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Now, I don't have a sophisticated palate. I don't, but
I do draw the line at vermin rodents. And this
is the reason why, Doug, it's not necessarily the meat
that you're eating, it's what that meat has been eating.
And I'm going to bring salmon here because he in
our off air conversations, he seems to fancy himself kind
(29:40):
of a dietitian, somebody who knows a lot about what
you put into your body. Rodents consume a lot of
toxic shit. They live in sewers. How could you possibly
think you can consume a raccoon. I wouldn't eat raccoon.
You're right, they eat garbage. They are both woodland creatures
(30:01):
and urban dwellers. They'll eat out of dumpsters, the'll eat
out of your garbage. But then if they live in
the forest, they're eating you know, little nuts and you
know tubers and berries and whatnot. But squirrel, squirrels are
out there eating walnuts and you know, mostly natural organic
stuff in the forest. I don't know about a raccoon.
I don't think i'd eat raccoon, never have, and I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I ever wild A squirrel sounds like something that could
be actually be good for you. Yeah, they do eat
the nuts, right, right, we're all we're all taught to eat.
You eat nuts, yet's good fats.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Right, And so a squirrel, I think that meat is
gonna be if you are what you eat, right, that
meat is going to be like more pure and healthy.
But like if you're eating raccoon, and like, there are
raccoons that live in the in the neighborhood, and they
they live in the sewers, and they eat garbage and stuff.
Maybe mister Lagette is eating those like pure country raccoons
that are just eating the natural stuff out there. But
(30:48):
if it was a an urban dwelling raccoon, I don't
think it'd be quite as healthy. Just my just my
personal non doctor opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Anything else do no.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Racoon eaters meant? And what was the initial one? Just
people and other people's business online.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
People in other people's business online.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm needing a lot of Right, why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I do because we can.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So this sound came with a visual and I'm looking
at it because you know, we we work in radio,
so we know exactly what goes into this. Dan Campbell
goes on this minute long rant, drops a couple F
bombs and I'm thinking, you get one dump and then
it needs to like regenerate. I'm thinking the second F
bomb went on the air, maybe Sam can make the
call on this go ahead.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
You know what happens is, you know, you win eleven
in a row, you know, and you lose and then
a sky falls And I hate to say it, but
we're not going to be able to win eleven in
a row again for the rest of this season. We're
just not going to be able to do it. And
you know what happens is you get used to eating
fil a and I'm talking to all of us and well,
everything's good, life's good, you know, And but you forgot
(32:06):
what it was like when you had nothing and he
ate your fucking molded bread, you know, and it was
just fine, and he gave you everything you needed. And
sometimes you got to get punched in the mouth and
remember what it used to be like to really appreciate
where you are. And we'll do that. And so we
got a bad taste in our mouth. We got kicked
around the other day. We lost a few guys, and
you know what, it's exactly what we needed. This is
(32:28):
exactly what we needed. So we're going to bounce back.
We're gonna respond. We got guys that are going to
about to have an unbelievable opportunity here and we will
play the game anyway needed to win. We still got
a good offense, we got plenty of defensive players. I
can go rattle them off right now. We're gonna put
the best eleven on the field. We're gonna freaking cut
it loose. We're gonna play with our special teams, and
I don't give a crap. If we got to win
(32:49):
by one point for the rest of the year, that's
what we're going to do, and I'm going to be
happy about it. We come out of the game with
fifty yards of total offense and we win by one,
you're going to see smiles on my face, I promise you.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
All right.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
If it's the other way defensively, we give up seven
hundred yards and we went by one point, you're going
to see a fucking smile from my ear to ear.
All right, I can promise you. So we're gonna find
a way and we're gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's pretty good. And yeah, the F bomb didn't get through,
really did get through.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Well, here's the thing, so he cursed at the beginning,
he cursed at the end. I think if if I
was in that position, you can kind of also manipulate
your dump length a little bit. But if I didn't
jump out about ten seconds of that, it would have
I would have had another one to begin with. That
would have been my backup, but it would have regenerated
by the time he dropped that second F bomb. So
I think the tech producer there is is sitting clean today.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's just my personality, nonct your opinion. Why could we
play it for you? Because we can. That's it for
the end The Modus Podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I got the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Tradio.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I hought radio app. I'm Doug Gotlieg
Host
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