February 12, 2025 • 31 mins
Doug riffs about the Eagles and Howie Roseman. Doug reacts to Lavar Arrington's take about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Travis Kelce makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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You know what's fascinating And I don't know if we've
talked about it enough. People have talked about Howie Roseman
and the football team that he's built in Philadelphia. What's
interesting is there was that era where Howie Roseman lost
a power struggle to Chip Kelly. I remember Chip Kelly
took over the Eagles won a different caliber player, different style,
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different everything. And Chip Kelly' first year they won ten games,
and then the bottom sort of fell out on him
as they couldn't figure out the quarterback position. But I
again that he had success. He was there with Amy
Read the first time. Let's not miss misconstrue it. They
couldn't figure out quarterback after Donald McNabb either. And you
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know the defense with think about these names. Sean McDermott
was the defensive coordinator when it fell apart. Sean McDermott
was the heir apparent to Jim Johnson, was a long
time right hand guy and defensive coordinator for Andy reed,
Jim Johnson got cancer dies, Howie Roseman's running the ship
and they both fail, and what happened to both both?
I mean McDermott goes to Carolina, they end up going
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to a super Bowl. He's the defense coordinator. Now he's
running the Bills, and they've gotten clothes, haven't gotten all
the way to the Super Bowl. And Howie Roseman had
to work and work and work, and got back in
control of Philadelphia and made some great moves, rebuilt the roster,
won a Super Bowl, and then made some hard decisions,
drafted jail and hurts and eventually now wins another one
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and again. I'm sure there's more detailed life lessons to
be taken from him. But the stick to it is
the ability is that you know, so many guys when
you get demoted, they're like, I gotta get out. There's
something interesting that he's been able to rebuild his own
leadership reputation and rebuild that roster in the same building
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where he was devoted. That element to the story, and
I don't know how many people have told it. That
element is fascinating, fascinating, but then comes the hard part
of trying to do it again, try to do it again,
try to do it again. And I think what you
get when your Kansas city in this year is at
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some point those stars age out. And if you look
at Philadelphia, they did make some hard decisions after going
to their last Super Bowl a couple years ago, and
they drafted young guys who eventually replaced those older guys.
And now they're fresh and now they're younger. They made
those hard can't say did the same thing on defense.
They're gonna have to do the same thing on offense
now too. But the Howie Roseman element to the Eagles
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win the Super Bowl being in a place where you
where you're part of this build or you're part of
a consistent winner in the NFC, then it falls apart
while any there, you let go of any read they're
bring in chip Kelly, chip Kelly, and you get uh
you know, fight for control of the organization. Chip Kelly wins,
then the team ultimately loses. Then you get back control.
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And when you get back control, you end up winning
a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Two different head two different head coaches.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Uh, No one ever is ever on a completely upward
trajectory that doesn't have valleys with the peaks that's to
Howie Roseman for figure out a way to get to
into another peak.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
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Speaker 3 (03:40):
App let Let's Get what the Fox Says and now
say every day.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This time the Doug got Liap Showing the Bones podcast
and play for reportion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. We call it what does the Fox Say?
Here's Rob Parker with his take on Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Andy should step down as head coach of the Kansas
City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And you're gonna be like, they just went to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Three times, Andy Reid, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is not a one game reaction because they lost
in the Super Bowl and they got boat raced and
it was forty to six. Where were the adjustments?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Where was the game plan?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Not even I'm not I'm not a football coach, guys
who are football coaches, and questioned the game plan. No
running game to start at all, and then you get behind,
you gotta pass. This is what he did in Philadelphia,
all the time, pass happy, always throwing the ball. They
got tired of that in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Number two.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
This fall off the cliff is two years in the making.
Last year they won the Super Bowl, so it kind
of covered up how bad things were. You remember when
the receivers and the struggles and Patrick Mahomes. Here's another year.
Andy Reid is supposed to be an offensive genius. Why
is Patrick Mahomes struggling so much when you can't figure
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out a way to get him off and to get
him to be not fifty touchdowns and throwing every ball
down field, but way better? Can you admit that Patrick
Mahomes hasn't been the same quarterback the last two years.
Andy Weied is supposed to be that guy, and yet
we haven't seen it. It's been a nice run. The
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last two years have been disappointing regular seasons. Yes, they
went to the Super Bowl, yes, both those times, and yeah,
I'm not talking about the last two years. And this
year they got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I don't even know what.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I didn't even I heard that. I saw it online.
I don't even know where to take that one. This
year's regular season was a disappointment. They lost one game.
They lost Week eighteen when they played their backups, but
they lost one game.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And look, I could beat I could disagree with the
with the game plan, but they were twenty ninth in
rushing and rushing attempts all year long. They didn't run
the ball all year. They didn't because they can't. They're
not good at it. They kept trying to find more
wide receivers to help them. Like this is the natural
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kind of cycle of life. If you want to say,
and I could say, hey, this is the difference team
Bill Belichick and any Reid. That's fine, right, because Bill
at Belichick had, you know, even the Super Bowls he'd lost,
like when the Eagles beat the Chiefs, when they couldn't
block the front four of the of the New York Giants,
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they were still able. I mean those were really competitive games. Like,
if that's the argument you want to make, I just
it's you should step down because they had lost a
game that they the other team had better players and
they couldn't block.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't really know what to where to take that one.
I just don't because remember, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We love Rob but once a year he has a
crazy one and the Tom Brady is the luckiest man
of all time and now any Reid should resign.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Those zuko go hand it in Lamar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Said this about the report that the Jets told Aaron
Rodgers he would not be able to go on Pat
McAfee if he wanted to return.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I think you got to look at it from the
standpoint of do you want to be here and do
you want to win? I think there comes a point
in time where you got to say, I know who
you are as a player, I know what your capabilities
are as a player, But at this point in your
career is the team and winning more important than everything
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else you got going on? And if it is, prove it,
and let us know now before we get into don't
try to prove it to me on the field. Let's
start by you proving it off the field. What is
your commitment level? And I feel as though this is
probably airing and it's most likely Aaron Glenn leading the
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charge on it based off of the information that he
has ascertained since getting there, and as looking at it
from the scope of are you going to agree to this?
It's most likely if you are the person that people are,
maybe some people are making you out to be. You
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won't agree to being the best teammate that you can
possibly be.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean, I just you know, I think it's
it's not just about his time because that's on his
day off on Tuesdays. It's about the things he says,
and about how that becomes polarized in the locker room.
It takes any attention away. And I will say the
one thing, and look, I have a radio show. I'm
a college basketball coach. You know, if it gets to
a point to where to where it feels to my
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players or my boss that it's a distraction, that's a
conversation to be had. If you'll notice, like we don't
really talk about college basketball in the show. So I
don't think you know, my opinion on Lebron, on Cam Newton,
on Michael Jordan, on whatever, doesn't seem to affect what
we do in terms of time. Again, everybody can make
their own argument. I would There'll be plenty of articles
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out where people follow me around to figure out what
I actually do with my day, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Think I'm putting the time in.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But I can tell you onequivocally that the distractions when
we just you use the word distractions, right, but when
it's something that it can drag you down. It just
can and bring negative attention to your team. And sports
are hard enough on their own. You throw in this
other stuff where you become polarizing and talking about the
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league and talking about other things and talking about politics.
It's hard enough to just win games. So I agree
with I agree with the bar on that one. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about Kevin Durrant reaching the thirty thousand
point milestone.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Kevin Durant went over thirty thousand points, and he did
so in the third fewest games Wilt nine hundred and
forty one games, Jordan nine to sixty. So the two
top scorers never really had the benefit of the three
point shot. Jordan did, but he didn't. It wasn't used
the same way it is now wild of course did not,
and he wouldn't have been taking three point shots. So
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Durant is in there tied with Kareem Abdul Jabbar one
and one games. Lebron did it in six more games
than those two. Then it's Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant, and
Dirk Nabinski. But with Kevin Durant, he is described as
one of the great scorers of all time, one of
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the great scores. Well, he is on the list, but
out of that group, who do we say greatest scores.
He's one of the greatest scorers of all time. Jordan,
we call him the best player of all ten. Kareem
is one of the best players of all time. Lebron,
even though he'll end up with the most points in
NBA history, I don't think we look at him and
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go he's one of the great scores. Karl Malone, Kobe.
It almost feels like there's a disservice that Kevin Durant
was one dimensional. He just a score, that's it. Now
he is he can score anywhere against anybody. But it
almost felt feels like we do a disservice in how
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we describe Kevin Durant. Alan Iverson great score, right, I
think we would say that Alex English was another player
great score, Carmelo Anthony great score. Kevin Durant is different
than those players because Kevin Durant actually can play defense
or has played defense, and I think at a couple
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stages in his career average like six assists. But he's
he's so good at one thing that you forget about
all the other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I do think that Kevin Durant has rounded out
his game incredibly well, right, and he's led the NBA
scoring one to three four four times, four times, you know,
and look, I think he's an incredible scorer. I think
he would have been an incredible scorer in any era,
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in any era, and he had to round out his
game as being a better pastor. He's not a great pastor,
but he's a better passer, and he's a decent solid rebounder,
and he's become a, you know, at times a viable
defensive player. Obviously, he's long armed and can challenge shots,
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so he's never been a great defensive player. But I
actually think the depiction of him is a good one.
I think he's the best scorer probably since Jordan. You know,
Kobe was the scoring machine. Obviously, Carmela Anthony was the
scoring machine as well. Carmarla Anthony was a more of
a two level scorer. But I would say that that's
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that's the grouping there. The difference was he's been more
efficient in Kobe. Kobe's a much better defensive player than
kat and Kobe won a couple more titles, So I
actually think it's a pretty honest and accurate depiction.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
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Speaker 3 (13:25):
Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So one of the one of the more entertaining exchanges
from Super Bowl Week last week, and I think you agree,
was your conversation with Riverboat Ron. Ron rivera former head
coach of the Panthers, led the Panthers to the Super Bowl,
and of course this quarterback was Cam Newton. And the
way you phrased a question, I have to admit you
kind of led the witness a little bit right. You
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had brought Cam Newton's comments up from previous about how
he would not trade a Super Bowl for his MVP award,
and then you said something like you had to be
thinking that's what I was dealing with, and I thought
he answered it pretty diplomatically. He didn't fully admit that,
but he didn't say no. Anyways, Cam Newton went on
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another podcast, this time was with Travis Hunter, and he
talked about his rookie season with the Panthers.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
When I was the first pick, I went into a
locker room of losers. How did you end the pressure
being the top pick.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Let's put it in perspective.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You're the top pick because what.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
You're looking at it from a personal situation. I'm talking
about from the professional situation. You're the top pick because
that was the worst team in the NFL the year before.
For me, I wanted to be the number one pick.
You could potentially be the first pick, but bro, you
have no way of impacting the game like a quarterback desk.
You can lock down the number one receiver, you can
make impact plays on offense all you want, but it's
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still not like a quarterback. My issue is when I
was the first pick, I went into a locker room
of losers.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Guys didn't know how to win, Guys didn't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's just money. Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
They're just players.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
So our own. Jeff Schwartz, I guess he was on
that teams has waged a rebuttal and then Steve Smith,
the receiver on that team, the pro bowler. He also
has picked a fight with Cam over these words. I
think it sounds extremely selfish and he's done a good
job of isolating himself since his playing days.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, and I think what we're seeing or what we're hear, like, look,
Cam Newton basically made ESPN feel guilty and they put
him on first take. Do you remember that? Like that
happened this year. He basically said, hey, you know, they
don't want people. He may it out like ESPN didn't
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want black people or black quarterbacks, So talk about football
when that show is predominantly made up of black people
on it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So that one didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But regardless of which, my question was sort of leading
the witness. Sure, but this is who Cam Newton is.
Let a guy talk long enough and he tells you
exactly who he is. It's the I don't know, have
you ever seen this before? People will post this all
the time. When people show you who they are, believe them, right,
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that's who Cam Newton is. And oh yeah, by the way,
Cam Newton was, he was a monster of an athlete.
He was a below average in terms of accuracy passer.
I actually think Cam Newton was, you know, a had
he been born in a previous generation, may have been
better because he was inaccurate, But I mean just had
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an absolute canon for an arm But he was.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
A completely arrogant prick.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
If you don't believe me, he said like, I walked
into a locker room of losers. Tell me how you
really feel, Cam, every one of those guys as losers.
Every one of those guys doesn't care. Every one of
those guys, you know, and again he can go back,
I didn't say that every one of them. Yes, But
when you say I walked into a locker room of losers,
that's the insinuation.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I'm a winner. You're a loser. And the only reason
one is.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Because me and oh yeah, by the way, in his
MVP year, Just so we're being honest. The defense coach
by Sean McDermott, led by Luke Keighley was phenomenal, was
the best in the sport. Now, Cam was good and
he was efficient and it was his highest passer rating,
highest completion percentage he'd had because they had learned, they
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had taught him to just take the easy throw. Cam,
don't try and be a superhero at times. Additionally, like
the Eagles, the last time they went to Super Bowl,
they played terrible schedule. They beat I think one team
with an above five hundred record the entire season.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm actually in a ficionado on Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He is completely arrogant, thinks he's one of the all
time greats, and I just I didn't don't find him
to be somebody who I like. Remember when he got
to the Panthers, he told people that he was going
to be a that he was more than a quarterback,
gonna be a generational star. Oh yeah, by the way,
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when they lost the Super Bowl, that asshole didn't dive
on the ball. They're down six points, they have the
football against the Broncos defense, right he fumbles in the pocket,
is rolling around the field. He didn't dive on the ball.
When he was asked about it afterwards, he was a
disaster in the postgame press conference, disaster and he was like,
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I ain't gonna risk my legs. It's a fucking Super Bowl, dude,
Don't tell me you're a winner and you're not willing
to get the fuck on the field and.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Get the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No coach ever would, no player ever who's won a
Super Ronnie Lott cut off his fucking pinky to play
in a playoff game. You can't dive in a football.
And oh yeah, by the way, Peyton Man couldn't throw
a football. His arm was shot shot. The Panthers won
that game because they're defense, their special teams. And by
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the way, the defense was going against Cam Newton. And
I'm sure if you asked Cam Newton to be some
about the scheme, some of the offenseive line, anything, but
Cam Newton, he is not accountable for anything.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
He is arrogant, he.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Is aloof he is out of touch. He is one
of the most overrated, overhyped in his own mind players
I've ever heard of. He's basically a deva wide receiver,
only he played quarterback. And I'm glad that I don't
have to say it anymore. He's done it all himself.
All he did was beg and beg and beg for
people to pay attention to his podcast, and it's built
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him into a media guy.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Great.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Meanwhile, you've exposed yourself as a bad teammate and an
arrogant prick.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yeah, yeah, So you talked on the radio show about
Kevin Durant. You know, he became the eighth person to
get to thirty thousand points, and it starts a conversation
kind of about his legacy. And I liked your take
on Durant. But two days ago he said something that
has become kind of a trend here and I'm shocked
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that nobody has stepped in to stop this. So what
two weeks ago, I want to say? Ten days ago,
Dennis Schroeder famously said that the NBA is modern day
slavery when it comes to the trade deadline, and then
was proceeded to be traded twice in two days. Kevin
Durant on Monday was asked about his future with the Suns.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
It is this business, man, It's this part of business.
Everybody's boy sold in this league, you know, so anybody
could be at faull shit, you know what I mean.
So I understand that it's just about getting back on
the course, trying to go out there and played again.
And I love you know, that's a part of business, though, man.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
We all got to understand that now as two middle
aged white guys, I know you and I can't have
an opinion on this, and maybe Adam Silver feels the
same thing like he can't. But how about set up
like a meetium with Joe Dumars and the leaders of
this league, or go to each club and be like,
you know what, this comparison, this analogy to slavery makes
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us look awful. It's not true, and we're hemorrhaging viewers
as it is. Do we really want to continue to
alienate the people that want to follow our sport. This
analogy is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's awful, It's really bad. I also think it's interesting.
You know, we've undone some of the things that were
done during the protest era, right, are we going to
go back to calling the NBA governor's owners.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Every time I read governors in an article?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And like, for people who are listing who think that
I'm some super conservative maga, dude, i am not.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I am.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm not the opposite. I am a radical centrist. Okay,
but this is fucking ridiculous and everybody knows it. If
you own a sports franchise, if you have laid out
in some Steve Boemer two point two billion dollars, you
own that product.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You own it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You're the owner of If you own I don't know
Jeff Bezos owns Amazon.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
He's the owner.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
If you own the.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Majority of the stock share in any company, you are
the owner basketball if is it's a business, which, by
the way, Kevin Rant just said, Hey, it's a business.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
This is the business. We can all be bought and sold. Right,
You're right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You work for your boss, you work for the company.
The company is owned by a certain person.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's how it works. It's just it's it's such a
frustrating league.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And again, like I don't think Kevin Durant is anywhere
near where Dennis Shrewder is, but I do think it's
a perceptions.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
The reference it was, yes, we are all auctioned. Yes,
NBA players aren't auctioned. Players aren't optioned in the sports,
so the auction was obvious.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Here here's it, like real quick to Dennis Schreuder's thing
and even to to Kevin Durant's thing. Okay, Kevin Durant,
you you finished your contract in Oklahoma City. You chose
on your own free will to sign with the Golden
State Warriors. That happened. That did happen, right, right, Jason,
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That right no one forced you. You weren't auctioned, you
didn't have to. And when you are traded, you don't
even actually have to go and play for the new team.
People know that, Like if he was traded to the
Golden State Warriors, he wouldn't have to go. The difference
is if he doesn't go, he doesn't get paid, right
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because he's under contract. So if you want to say
that slavery, I would, I would. I think I would
beg in history would beg to differ. We can all
agree that slavery was an awful thing, right, awful thing.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
My ancestors were enslaved.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Your probably great great great grandfather, great great great grandfather,
if Terry Kevin Rant and grandmother were probably.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Enslaved as well. It's awful.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Discrimination is awful, and discriminatory tactics are awful. They're not acceptable.
But that's not what NBA players have. They have the
opposite of that. They have guaranteed contracts the likes of
which every other human being on earth would kill for.
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So you mean to tell me if I get hurt
and I can't play, I can't perform my test, I
can't go to work every day, I still get paid
an excessive amount of money, yes, all of it. And
if somebody doesn't want you to play for them anymore,
they actually buy out your contract. They give you all
the money in your contract, or they negotiate some sort
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of settlement. And then here's the kicker, you can actually
go back to the market and sign another contract.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
That happens. That's called the buyout market. It happens. So
it's inaccurate, it's wrong, it's offensive. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And Katie is a smart enough dude, but he says
things and throws in things which become defiant, which you're
just like, look, dude, we can't help you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And I thought Buyer.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Actually said the best thing last week when the trade
deadline was coming down. Of course, people would actually throw
their arms around kat if he went back to Golden State.
But you know, Kevin Rant didn't want to do it,
because that's Kevin Rant. He wants to take the most
difficult thing and be and just he'd be defiant, just
to be defiant.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Congratulations, you earned it. Who's the most annoying?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So we got to play this one. We got we
got to play the Carl Rabbit from us.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh this is good, Yeah, that's good. Yeah, so think
about it.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
We know how dominant they were in a non conference
season the SEC. They were one hundred and eighty five
and twenty three beams. Since January fourth into Tuesday, the
SEC teams are eighty two and eighty two. It's not
as if one team, two teams or three. They're eighty
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two and eighty two. Like there's been no ability to
pull away. There's no dominant group of teams.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oh jeez, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Okay, let me let me explain to you. They will
have some crossover games against other conferences, but since January fourth,
the SEC has only played the SEC. So the SEC
only plays the SEC, they would have a five hundred
record overall because they're playing against somebody has to win,
somebody has to lose.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And and.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like Carl's I like Carl, he's a friend. He he
had a stat which he thought like, man, that's a
money stat. Oh my god, Like I would just I
want to know where that stat came to be. It
feels like if somebody handed to him, or if it
was sid, then that person you're a fucking idiot. And
but it feels like something that was in his notes
that he wanted to get to and I just wonder
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how it got there.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I just wonder how it got there. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
For Sports Information Records, who I have a great relationship
with ours and with so many across the country. There's
certain stats like, well, when they hold teams below fifty points,
they under feed like no shit, right, don't yea. And
when you work with young play by play guys, they
throw out stats just to throw out stats. And by
the way, most color analysts, which was my job, you
don't really need stats only then to support a point.
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But guys that throw out stats all the time, it
means they don't actually know what they're doing and they
just show stats.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's that's that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And somebody keeps throwing them information. That happens to young
broadcasters all the time. To this one, Ravey, who's done
it forever, I don't know where he got it. And
I feel bad for him because he's a good dude.
He's a good broadcaster. And that's an ooh oh, no, no, Carl.
And maybe you know, obviously he's a huge baseball guy.
(28:27):
Maybe it comes down to just looking at the looking
at the schedules like in baseball, like man, look since
January fourth, they're eighty four up, eighty four down. Huh,
there's a lot a lot of parody. Like his point was,
there's parody. Uh, yeah, the problem is that it would
that's not the stat to use it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Who's most annoying?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Cam Newton? Come on, dude, Cam Newton's super annoying. I
mean just so obtused to what he says and how
it makes him look. And for that, Cam Newton, you're knowing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Doing this because we can.
Speaker 11 (29:08):
Now.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Travis Kelsey did his first podcast since the Super Bowl.
A lot of takeaways. We talked in the show about
his reference to potential retirement, but he did say this
because you know, going into the game, I guess Jason
Kelcey was getting a bunch of shit for either rooting
for the Eagles or rooting for his brother. He was
getting shipped from both sides. And they explained it, well here.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
I've always supported you, I've always.
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Wanted you to win every step of the way, and I.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
Wanted you to win this game. I thought I made
that clear.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He made it clear to me. It was weird, man.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
It was hard to navigate because I'm trying to like, obviously,
I'm trying to say that I have people on the
Eagles that I love, and I also have you, and
I tried to make it known that I was rooting
for you, and it felt like I couldn't be right.
It felt like no matter what I said, some people
were gonna skew it and say that I'm rooting for
the Eagles, and some people were gonna skew it and
say that I was root for the Chiefs or Travis.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
And it's just the world we live in, man. Everybody
wants to just fucking call people out. I know I
always had your support, and I joked around saying, with
your cheering for the listen, you and Kylie are there
in Philly and have created one of the most beautiful
situations that I've ever seen. You guys are loved by
the community out there. You guys are very much a
part of the community out there outside of that that organization.
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Everything from the foundation stuff that Kylie does, they both
of you guys do, to the countless, countless amount of
hours and years you spent in that organization giving it
everything that you have there is. You don't have to
explain anything to anybody as long as the people right here,
I know who Jason Kelsey is. And I know my
brother and what his intentions are, and nobody can ever
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fucking confuse that. And you can't let these jimokes online
make you think that you're in the wrong for what
you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Again, I think they're a little too close to it.
Like I don't think anybody really cares. Right, it's your brother,
Like nobody really cares. Anybody really think like nobody, you know.
The bigger thing is, is Jason gonna go like, hey,
you should retire. You play You look like an old man.
You couldn't block. You look like shit. That part, that's
(31:14):
that's the podcast. I'm waiting for the meantime. Why could
we play it for you? Because we can.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
That's it for the In the Modus podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You got the radio show every day three to five Eastern,
twelve two Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I'm Doug Gottlie
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here in the Bonus
with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What up Doug Gottlieb's show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know what's fascinating And I don't know if we've
talked about it enough. People have talked about Howie Roseman
and the football team that he's built in Philadelphia. What's
interesting is there was that era where Howie Roseman lost
a power struggle to Chip Kelly. I remember Chip Kelly
took over the Eagles won a different caliber player, different style,
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different everything. And Chip Kelly' first year they won ten games,
and then the bottom sort of fell out on him
as they couldn't figure out the quarterback position. But I
again that he had success. He was there with Amy
Read the first time. Let's not miss misconstrue it. They
couldn't figure out quarterback after Donald McNabb either. And you
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know the defense with think about these names. Sean McDermott
was the defensive coordinator when it fell apart. Sean McDermott
was the heir apparent to Jim Johnson, was a long
time right hand guy and defensive coordinator for Andy reed,
Jim Johnson got cancer dies, Howie Roseman's running the ship
and they both fail, and what happened to both both?
I mean McDermott goes to Carolina, they end up going
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to a super Bowl. He's the defense coordinator. Now he's
running the Bills, and they've gotten clothes, haven't gotten all
the way to the Super Bowl. And Howie Roseman had
to work and work and work, and got back in
control of Philadelphia and made some great moves, rebuilt the roster,
won a Super Bowl, and then made some hard decisions,
drafted jail and hurts and eventually now wins another one
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and again. I'm sure there's more detailed life lessons to
be taken from him. But the stick to it is
the ability is that you know, so many guys when
you get demoted, they're like, I gotta get out. There's
something interesting that he's been able to rebuild his own
leadership reputation and rebuild that roster in the same building
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where he was devoted. That element to the story, and
I don't know how many people have told it. That
element is fascinating, fascinating, but then comes the hard part
of trying to do it again, try to do it again,
try to do it again. And I think what you
get when your Kansas city in this year is at
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some point those stars age out. And if you look
at Philadelphia, they did make some hard decisions after going
to their last Super Bowl a couple years ago, and
they drafted young guys who eventually replaced those older guys.
And now they're fresh and now they're younger. They made
those hard can't say did the same thing on defense.
They're gonna have to do the same thing on offense
now too. But the Howie Roseman element to the Eagles
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win the Super Bowl being in a place where you
where you're part of this build or you're part of
a consistent winner in the NFC, then it falls apart
while any there, you let go of any read they're
bring in chip Kelly, chip Kelly, and you get uh
you know, fight for control of the organization. Chip Kelly wins,
then the team ultimately loses. Then you get back control.
(03:12):
And when you get back control, you end up winning
a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Two different head two different head coaches.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Uh, No one ever is ever on a completely upward
trajectory that doesn't have valleys with the peaks that's to
Howie Roseman for figure out a way to get to
into another peak.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
App let Let's Get what the Fox Says and now
say every day.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This time the Doug got Liap Showing the Bones podcast
and play for reportion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. We call it what does the Fox Say?
Here's Rob Parker with his take on Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Andy should step down as head coach of the Kansas
City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And you're gonna be like, they just went to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Three times, Andy Reid, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is not a one game reaction because they lost
in the Super Bowl and they got boat raced and
it was forty to six. Where were the adjustments?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Where was the game plan?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Not even I'm not I'm not a football coach, guys
who are football coaches, and questioned the game plan. No
running game to start at all, and then you get behind,
you gotta pass. This is what he did in Philadelphia,
all the time, pass happy, always throwing the ball. They
got tired of that in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Number two.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
This fall off the cliff is two years in the making.
Last year they won the Super Bowl, so it kind
of covered up how bad things were. You remember when
the receivers and the struggles and Patrick Mahomes. Here's another year.
Andy Reid is supposed to be an offensive genius. Why
is Patrick Mahomes struggling so much when you can't figure
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out a way to get him off and to get
him to be not fifty touchdowns and throwing every ball
down field, but way better? Can you admit that Patrick
Mahomes hasn't been the same quarterback the last two years.
Andy Weied is supposed to be that guy, and yet
we haven't seen it. It's been a nice run. The
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last two years have been disappointing regular seasons. Yes, they
went to the Super Bowl, yes, both those times, and yeah,
I'm not talking about the last two years. And this
year they got embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I don't even know what.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I didn't even I heard that. I saw it online.
I don't even know where to take that one. This
year's regular season was a disappointment. They lost one game.
They lost Week eighteen when they played their backups, but
they lost one game.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And look, I could beat I could disagree with the
with the game plan, but they were twenty ninth in
rushing and rushing attempts all year long. They didn't run
the ball all year. They didn't because they can't. They're
not good at it. They kept trying to find more
wide receivers to help them. Like this is the natural
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kind of cycle of life. If you want to say,
and I could say, hey, this is the difference team
Bill Belichick and any Reid. That's fine, right, because Bill
at Belichick had, you know, even the Super Bowls he'd lost,
like when the Eagles beat the Chiefs, when they couldn't
block the front four of the of the New York Giants,
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they were still able. I mean those were really competitive games. Like,
if that's the argument you want to make, I just
it's you should step down because they had lost a
game that they the other team had better players and
they couldn't block.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't really know what to where to take that one.
I just don't because remember, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We love Rob but once a year he has a
crazy one and the Tom Brady is the luckiest man
of all time and now any Reid should resign.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Those zuko go hand it in Lamar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Said this about the report that the Jets told Aaron
Rodgers he would not be able to go on Pat
McAfee if he wanted to return.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I think you got to look at it from the
standpoint of do you want to be here and do
you want to win? I think there comes a point
in time where you got to say, I know who
you are as a player, I know what your capabilities
are as a player, But at this point in your
career is the team and winning more important than everything
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else you got going on? And if it is, prove it,
and let us know now before we get into don't
try to prove it to me on the field. Let's
start by you proving it off the field. What is
your commitment level? And I feel as though this is
probably airing and it's most likely Aaron Glenn leading the
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charge on it based off of the information that he
has ascertained since getting there, and as looking at it
from the scope of are you going to agree to this?
It's most likely if you are the person that people are,
maybe some people are making you out to be. You
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won't agree to being the best teammate that you can
possibly be.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean, I just you know, I think it's
it's not just about his time because that's on his
day off on Tuesdays. It's about the things he says,
and about how that becomes polarized in the locker room.
It takes any attention away. And I will say the
one thing, and look, I have a radio show. I'm
a college basketball coach. You know, if it gets to
a point to where to where it feels to my
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players or my boss that it's a distraction, that's a
conversation to be had. If you'll notice, like we don't
really talk about college basketball in the show. So I
don't think you know, my opinion on Lebron, on Cam Newton,
on Michael Jordan, on whatever, doesn't seem to affect what
we do in terms of time. Again, everybody can make
their own argument. I would There'll be plenty of articles
(09:16):
out where people follow me around to figure out what
I actually do with my day, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Think I'm putting the time in.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But I can tell you onequivocally that the distractions when
we just you use the word distractions, right, but when
it's something that it can drag you down. It just
can and bring negative attention to your team. And sports
are hard enough on their own. You throw in this
other stuff where you become polarizing and talking about the
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league and talking about other things and talking about politics.
It's hard enough to just win games. So I agree
with I agree with the bar on that one. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about Kevin Durrant reaching the thirty thousand
point milestone.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Kevin Durant went over thirty thousand points, and he did
so in the third fewest games Wilt nine hundred and
forty one games, Jordan nine to sixty. So the two
top scorers never really had the benefit of the three
point shot. Jordan did, but he didn't. It wasn't used
the same way it is now wild of course did not,
and he wouldn't have been taking three point shots. So
(10:16):
Durant is in there tied with Kareem Abdul Jabbar one
and one games. Lebron did it in six more games
than those two. Then it's Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant, and
Dirk Nabinski. But with Kevin Durant, he is described as
one of the great scorers of all time, one of
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the great scores. Well, he is on the list, but
out of that group, who do we say greatest scores.
He's one of the greatest scorers of all time. Jordan,
we call him the best player of all ten. Kareem
is one of the best players of all time. Lebron,
even though he'll end up with the most points in
NBA history, I don't think we look at him and
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go he's one of the great scores. Karl Malone, Kobe.
It almost feels like there's a disservice that Kevin Durant
was one dimensional. He just a score, that's it. Now
he is he can score anywhere against anybody. But it
almost felt feels like we do a disservice in how
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we describe Kevin Durant. Alan Iverson great score, right, I
think we would say that Alex English was another player
great score, Carmelo Anthony great score. Kevin Durant is different
than those players because Kevin Durant actually can play defense
or has played defense, and I think at a couple
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stages in his career average like six assists. But he's
he's so good at one thing that you forget about
all the other thing.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I do think that Kevin Durant has rounded out
his game incredibly well, right, and he's led the NBA
scoring one to three four four times, four times, you know,
and look, I think he's an incredible scorer. I think
he would have been an incredible scorer in any era,
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in any era, and he had to round out his
game as being a better pastor. He's not a great pastor,
but he's a better passer, and he's a decent solid rebounder,
and he's become a, you know, at times a viable
defensive player. Obviously, he's long armed and can challenge shots,
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so he's never been a great defensive player. But I
actually think the depiction of him is a good one.
I think he's the best scorer probably since Jordan. You know,
Kobe was the scoring machine. Obviously, Carmela Anthony was the
scoring machine as well. Carmarla Anthony was a more of
a two level scorer. But I would say that that's
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that's the grouping there. The difference was he's been more
efficient in Kobe. Kobe's a much better defensive player than
kat and Kobe won a couple more titles, So I
actually think it's a pretty honest and accurate depiction.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So one of the one of the more entertaining exchanges
from Super Bowl Week last week, and I think you agree,
was your conversation with Riverboat Ron. Ron rivera former head
coach of the Panthers, led the Panthers to the Super Bowl,
and of course this quarterback was Cam Newton. And the
way you phrased a question, I have to admit you
kind of led the witness a little bit right. You
(14:01):
had brought Cam Newton's comments up from previous about how
he would not trade a Super Bowl for his MVP award,
and then you said something like you had to be
thinking that's what I was dealing with, and I thought
he answered it pretty diplomatically. He didn't fully admit that,
but he didn't say no. Anyways, Cam Newton went on
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another podcast, this time was with Travis Hunter, and he
talked about his rookie season with the Panthers.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
When I was the first pick, I went into a
locker room of losers. How did you end the pressure
being the top pick.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Let's put it in perspective.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You're the top pick because what.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
You're looking at it from a personal situation. I'm talking
about from the professional situation. You're the top pick because
that was the worst team in the NFL the year before.
For me, I wanted to be the number one pick.
You could potentially be the first pick, but bro, you
have no way of impacting the game like a quarterback desk.
You can lock down the number one receiver, you can
make impact plays on offense all you want, but it's
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still not like a quarterback. My issue is when I
was the first pick, I went into a locker room
of losers.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Guys didn't know how to win, Guys didn't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's just money. Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
They're just players.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
So our own. Jeff Schwartz, I guess he was on
that teams has waged a rebuttal and then Steve Smith,
the receiver on that team, the pro bowler. He also
has picked a fight with Cam over these words. I
think it sounds extremely selfish and he's done a good
job of isolating himself since his playing days.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, and I think what we're seeing or what we're hear, like, look,
Cam Newton basically made ESPN feel guilty and they put
him on first take. Do you remember that? Like that
happened this year. He basically said, hey, you know, they
don't want people. He may it out like ESPN didn't
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want black people or black quarterbacks, So talk about football
when that show is predominantly made up of black people
on it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So that one didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But regardless of which, my question was sort of leading
the witness. Sure, but this is who Cam Newton is.
Let a guy talk long enough and he tells you
exactly who he is. It's the I don't know, have
you ever seen this before? People will post this all
the time. When people show you who they are, believe them, right,
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that's who Cam Newton is. And oh yeah, by the way,
Cam Newton was, he was a monster of an athlete.
He was a below average in terms of accuracy passer.
I actually think Cam Newton was, you know, a had
he been born in a previous generation, may have been
better because he was inaccurate, But I mean just had
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an absolute canon for an arm But he was.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
A completely arrogant prick.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
If you don't believe me, he said like, I walked
into a locker room of losers. Tell me how you
really feel, Cam, every one of those guys as losers.
Every one of those guys doesn't care. Every one of
those guys, you know, and again he can go back,
I didn't say that every one of them. Yes, But
when you say I walked into a locker room of losers,
that's the insinuation.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I'm a winner. You're a loser. And the only reason
one is.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Because me and oh yeah, by the way, in his
MVP year, Just so we're being honest. The defense coach
by Sean McDermott, led by Luke Keighley was phenomenal, was
the best in the sport. Now, Cam was good and
he was efficient and it was his highest passer rating,
highest completion percentage he'd had because they had learned, they
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had taught him to just take the easy throw. Cam,
don't try and be a superhero at times. Additionally, like
the Eagles, the last time they went to Super Bowl,
they played terrible schedule. They beat I think one team
with an above five hundred record the entire season.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm actually in a ficionado on Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He is completely arrogant, thinks he's one of the all
time greats, and I just I didn't don't find him
to be somebody who I like. Remember when he got
to the Panthers, he told people that he was going
to be a that he was more than a quarterback,
gonna be a generational star. Oh yeah, by the way,
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when they lost the Super Bowl, that asshole didn't dive
on the ball. They're down six points, they have the
football against the Broncos defense, right he fumbles in the pocket,
is rolling around the field. He didn't dive on the ball.
When he was asked about it afterwards, he was a
disaster in the postgame press conference, disaster and he was like,
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I ain't gonna risk my legs. It's a fucking Super Bowl, dude,
Don't tell me you're a winner and you're not willing
to get the fuck on the field and.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Get the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No coach ever would, no player ever who's won a
Super Ronnie Lott cut off his fucking pinky to play
in a playoff game. You can't dive in a football.
And oh yeah, by the way, Peyton Man couldn't throw
a football. His arm was shot shot. The Panthers won
that game because they're defense, their special teams. And by
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the way, the defense was going against Cam Newton. And
I'm sure if you asked Cam Newton to be some
about the scheme, some of the offenseive line, anything, but
Cam Newton, he is not accountable for anything.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
He is arrogant, he.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Is aloof he is out of touch. He is one
of the most overrated, overhyped in his own mind players
I've ever heard of. He's basically a deva wide receiver,
only he played quarterback. And I'm glad that I don't
have to say it anymore. He's done it all himself.
All he did was beg and beg and beg for
people to pay attention to his podcast, and it's built
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him into a media guy.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Great.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Meanwhile, you've exposed yourself as a bad teammate and an
arrogant prick.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yeah, yeah, So you talked on the radio show about
Kevin Durant. You know, he became the eighth person to
get to thirty thousand points, and it starts a conversation
kind of about his legacy. And I liked your take
on Durant. But two days ago he said something that
has become kind of a trend here and I'm shocked
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that nobody has stepped in to stop this. So what
two weeks ago, I want to say? Ten days ago,
Dennis Schroeder famously said that the NBA is modern day
slavery when it comes to the trade deadline, and then
was proceeded to be traded twice in two days. Kevin
Durant on Monday was asked about his future with the Suns.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
It is this business, man, It's this part of business.
Everybody's boy sold in this league, you know, so anybody
could be at faull shit, you know what I mean.
So I understand that it's just about getting back on
the course, trying to go out there and played again.
And I love you know, that's a part of business, though, man.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
We all got to understand that now as two middle
aged white guys, I know you and I can't have
an opinion on this, and maybe Adam Silver feels the
same thing like he can't. But how about set up
like a meetium with Joe Dumars and the leaders of
this league, or go to each club and be like,
you know what, this comparison, this analogy to slavery makes
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us look awful. It's not true, and we're hemorrhaging viewers
as it is. Do we really want to continue to
alienate the people that want to follow our sport. This
analogy is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's awful, It's really bad. I also think it's interesting.
You know, we've undone some of the things that were
done during the protest era, right, are we going to
go back to calling the NBA governor's owners.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Every time I read governors in an article?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And like, for people who are listing who think that
I'm some super conservative maga, dude, i am not.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I am.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm not the opposite. I am a radical centrist. Okay,
but this is fucking ridiculous and everybody knows it. If
you own a sports franchise, if you have laid out
in some Steve Boemer two point two billion dollars, you
own that product.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You own it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You're the owner of If you own I don't know
Jeff Bezos owns Amazon.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
He's the owner.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
If you own the.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Majority of the stock share in any company, you are
the owner basketball if is it's a business, which, by
the way, Kevin Rant just said, Hey, it's a business.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
This is the business. We can all be bought and sold. Right,
You're right.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You work for your boss, you work for the company.
The company is owned by a certain person.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's how it works. It's just it's it's such a
frustrating league.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And again, like I don't think Kevin Durant is anywhere
near where Dennis Shrewder is, but I do think it's
a perceptions.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
The reference it was, yes, we are all auctioned. Yes,
NBA players aren't auctioned. Players aren't optioned in the sports,
so the auction was obvious.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Here here's it, like real quick to Dennis Schreuder's thing
and even to to Kevin Durant's thing. Okay, Kevin Durant,
you you finished your contract in Oklahoma City. You chose
on your own free will to sign with the Golden
State Warriors. That happened. That did happen, right, right, Jason,
(23:46):
That right no one forced you. You weren't auctioned, you
didn't have to. And when you are traded, you don't
even actually have to go and play for the new team.
People know that, Like if he was traded to the
Golden State Warriors, he wouldn't have to go. The difference
is if he doesn't go, he doesn't get paid, right
(24:09):
because he's under contract. So if you want to say
that slavery, I would, I would. I think I would
beg in history would beg to differ. We can all
agree that slavery was an awful thing, right, awful thing.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
My ancestors were enslaved.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Your probably great great great grandfather, great great great grandfather,
if Terry Kevin Rant and grandmother were probably.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Enslaved as well. It's awful.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Discrimination is awful, and discriminatory tactics are awful. They're not acceptable.
But that's not what NBA players have. They have the
opposite of that. They have guaranteed contracts the likes of
which every other human being on earth would kill for.
(24:59):
So you mean to tell me if I get hurt
and I can't play, I can't perform my test, I
can't go to work every day, I still get paid
an excessive amount of money, yes, all of it. And
if somebody doesn't want you to play for them anymore,
they actually buy out your contract. They give you all
the money in your contract, or they negotiate some sort
(25:20):
of settlement. And then here's the kicker, you can actually
go back to the market and sign another contract.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
That happens. That's called the buyout market. It happens. So
it's inaccurate, it's wrong, it's offensive. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And Katie is a smart enough dude, but he says
things and throws in things which become defiant, which you're
just like, look, dude, we can't help you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And I thought Buyer.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Actually said the best thing last week when the trade
deadline was coming down. Of course, people would actually throw
their arms around kat if he went back to Golden State.
But you know, Kevin Rant didn't want to do it,
because that's Kevin Rant. He wants to take the most
difficult thing and be and just he'd be defiant, just
to be defiant.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Congratulations, you earned it. Who's the most annoying?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So we got to play this one. We got we
got to play the Carl Rabbit from us.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh this is good, Yeah, that's good. Yeah, so think
about it.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
We know how dominant they were in a non conference
season the SEC. They were one hundred and eighty five
and twenty three beams. Since January fourth into Tuesday, the
SEC teams are eighty two and eighty two. It's not
as if one team, two teams or three. They're eighty
(26:33):
two and eighty two. Like there's been no ability to
pull away. There's no dominant group of teams.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oh jeez, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Okay, let me let me explain to you. They will
have some crossover games against other conferences, but since January fourth,
the SEC has only played the SEC. So the SEC
only plays the SEC, they would have a five hundred
record overall because they're playing against somebody has to win,
somebody has to lose.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And and.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like Carl's I like Carl, he's a friend. He he
had a stat which he thought like, man, that's a
money stat. Oh my god, Like I would just I
want to know where that stat came to be. It
feels like if somebody handed to him, or if it
was sid, then that person you're a fucking idiot. And
but it feels like something that was in his notes
that he wanted to get to and I just wonder
(27:34):
how it got there.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I just wonder how it got there. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
For Sports Information Records, who I have a great relationship
with ours and with so many across the country. There's
certain stats like, well, when they hold teams below fifty points,
they under feed like no shit, right, don't yea. And
when you work with young play by play guys, they
throw out stats just to throw out stats. And by
the way, most color analysts, which was my job, you
don't really need stats only then to support a point.
(28:00):
But guys that throw out stats all the time, it
means they don't actually know what they're doing and they
just show stats.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's that's that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And somebody keeps throwing them information. That happens to young
broadcasters all the time. To this one, Ravey, who's done
it forever, I don't know where he got it. And
I feel bad for him because he's a good dude.
He's a good broadcaster. And that's an ooh oh, no, no, Carl.
And maybe you know, obviously he's a huge baseball guy.
(28:27):
Maybe it comes down to just looking at the looking
at the schedules like in baseball, like man, look since
January fourth, they're eighty four up, eighty four down. Huh,
there's a lot a lot of parody. Like his point was,
there's parody. Uh, yeah, the problem is that it would
that's not the stat to use it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Who's most annoying?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Cam Newton? Come on, dude, Cam Newton's super annoying. I
mean just so obtused to what he says and how
it makes him look. And for that, Cam Newton, you're knowing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Doing this because we can.
Speaker 11 (29:08):
Now.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Travis Kelsey did his first podcast since the Super Bowl.
A lot of takeaways. We talked in the show about
his reference to potential retirement, but he did say this
because you know, going into the game, I guess Jason
Kelcey was getting a bunch of shit for either rooting
for the Eagles or rooting for his brother. He was
getting shipped from both sides. And they explained it, well here.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
I've always supported you, I've always.
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Wanted you to win every step of the way, and I.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
Wanted you to win this game. I thought I made
that clear.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He made it clear to me. It was weird, man.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
It was hard to navigate because I'm trying to like, obviously,
I'm trying to say that I have people on the
Eagles that I love, and I also have you, and
I tried to make it known that I was rooting
for you, and it felt like I couldn't be right.
It felt like no matter what I said, some people
were gonna skew it and say that I'm rooting for
the Eagles, and some people were gonna skew it and
say that I was root for the Chiefs or Travis.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
And it's just the world we live in, man. Everybody
wants to just fucking call people out. I know I
always had your support, and I joked around saying, with
your cheering for the listen, you and Kylie are there
in Philly and have created one of the most beautiful
situations that I've ever seen. You guys are loved by
the community out there. You guys are very much a
part of the community out there outside of that that organization.
(30:21):
Everything from the foundation stuff that Kylie does, they both
of you guys do, to the countless, countless amount of
hours and years you spent in that organization giving it
everything that you have there is. You don't have to
explain anything to anybody as long as the people right here,
I know who Jason Kelsey is. And I know my
brother and what his intentions are, and nobody can ever
(30:42):
fucking confuse that. And you can't let these jimokes online
make you think that you're in the wrong for what
you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Again, I think they're a little too close to it.
Like I don't think anybody really cares. Right, it's your brother,
Like nobody really cares. Anybody really think like nobody, you know.
The bigger thing is, is Jason gonna go like, hey,
you should retire. You play You look like an old man.
You couldn't block. You look like shit. That part, that's
(31:14):
that's the podcast. I'm waiting for the meantime. Why could
we play it for you? Because we can.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
That's it for the In the Modus podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
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Speaker 3 (31:24):
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