April 28, 2025 • 20 mins
Doug talks about the media coverage of the Shedeur Sanders slide. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on the Shedeur slide. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Russell Westbrook makes a return visit to "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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I love when people try and push back on the
Sdor Sanders late drafting by saying, how do you know
(00:30):
he'll be a distraction? How do we know? Well, Shadoor
Sanders is all we've talked about about the draft. You know,
probably of the conversations ninety eight percent of about Shadoor Sanders.
And she can't play a stap. It's barely been alive
or with him long enough to establish having having something
(00:52):
to take care of your man with. And Soore's gonna
have to go out there and kind of make it
on his own now, can he? Sure will he? I
don't think so Or. They still have quarterbacks there, they
have their own they have to clear out and whatever
their level of whatever their love of expectations here, whatever
level of expectation here, we throw a wile around the
(01:14):
word distraction. And I don't think Shador was drafted as
low as he's drafted purely because he's a distraction. But
once you get to the third, fourth and fifth round,
which is by all estimations, what his skill level actually is.
Right now, you have to be solely invested, solely invested
(01:34):
in the starter having a great week. That's it. That's
your only thing that matters to you, completely and totally.
And it's just crazy to me how anyone in their
right mind could not see the level of distraction when
that's all anybody discussed. I mean, it was really hard
(01:55):
to figure out who is drafting who and whatever like
granted green Bay's mind home, and so the Packers drafting
two wide receivers became a big story, especially drafting Matthew
Golden with their first pick. But it is it's at
minimum interesting, if nothing else, eye opening on how much
discussion Shador Sanders got. And then you can't tell us
(02:18):
he's not a distraction. Plus, i mean, all of these
stories you're hearing about his level of arrogance, we can
actually see that on tape. Maybe that's confirmation bias, but
we can actually see that. And then you factor in
that the NFL scouts don't believe he has the talent
to be a surefire starter, and you can see why
(02:38):
he fell where he fell in the draft. If anything,
it's all those mock drafts that are to blame, and
now I think we all know the value of those
mock drafts.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
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Speaker 2 (02:56):
App Let's get to the Fox as and now every
day of this time, in the Boats Podcast, you play
a portion of a previous show on Fox Sports Trader
of Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick talking about Shadure's
slide in the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The number of revisionist history experts who've come out to
tell us, now, why should or Sanders dropped? Where were
you guys before the draft? Where was everybody before this happened?
The only thing I told you was at the end
of the show on Thursday, prior to the first round,
(03:32):
my source said I don't have a first round great
on him. That was it, And he did say this
wasn't He didn't look at the interviewing or how poorly
should Or Sanders interviewed. He said, I'm just looking at
football stuff. He goes, I'm looking at what I saw.
Now he was at the Shrine Bowl, and you know,
should Or didn't do any of the drills down there,
(03:53):
and they felt that he was a little stand offish
with that, or Hey, I know where I'm going, where
I'm going to be drafted, I'll put up with this
sort of dog and pony show. But you start to
hear these stories that he's doing a FaceTime while he's
in an interview with the Giants with the team meeting.
That would be a red flag. But do I think
(04:14):
this is a league wide conspiracy? Do I think it's collusion?
I don't, because the NFL is cutthroat. These coaches know
they get two years maybe three at the most to
be able to hold onto their jobs or gms.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think this is one of those things that by now,
if you're still in the league, is conspiring against. Whether
it's shador Dion Black, quarterbacks, outspoken quarterbacks, whatever, There's nothing
we can really say. There's no sort of proof that
we can give you. If there are people, if that's
what you think this is about, you're going to think
(04:53):
what that's about. Whereas if you read actual analysis, there's
lots of people who cover the NFL, not Namail kiper Tree,
who don't believe, just talent wise, that he's in the
discussion of a first, second, or third round pick, and
then you factor in the attitude the ego does he
actually we can he actually be a backup, a developmental
guy in this league? And you lead to your questions.
(05:15):
So this feels like the Jordan Lebron debate, even though
it just you know, it just perked up on last Friday,
where everyone is so ingrained in their sides, it's really
hard to see you going like, no, you know what,
You're right. I see it a different way. This is
(05:36):
Dan Byer, co host with Mike Harmon saying this about
Dion Sanders factoring into Sure's slide.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
In all of this fair or unfair, I feel that
Dion Sanders is to blame for this for the simple
fact of not Dion as a father, Dion as a father.
I think what felt burned when these picks were going
off the board and is Sun wasn't taken, his player
(06:02):
wasn't taken. There's obviously remorse and hard feelings there. But
throughout this whole process it has been the Dion way,
the promotion, the logos, the whole deal, which has gone
back for as far as when Dion was entering the league.
Like of the flash of when Dion enters in nineteen
eighty nine. So if anybody knows what this is all about,
(06:25):
it should be Dion. And if you're having bad interviews,
if you're saying we're not going to go to certain teams,
which I.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Don't have a problem with. I don't have a problem
with the Mannings.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Did it.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We don't want to go to San Diego. We don't
want to go there, so they force a trade to
New York. We've seen that before. I don't have a
problem with any of that. But when you're not Deon
Sanders and you're not Eli Manning, and your talent doesn't
rise to that level, then you have to kind of
dance with the devil that that you're bringing into play,
and that is this slide.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I think I think Dan's right. He didn't help it,
And yeah, he just didn't help it. I mean, he
made his son incredibly unlikable. And then when you factor
in some of the other fathers have been involved in
their team sports child's life, and it makes it additionally
(07:17):
hard whether Dion is that guy or isn't that guy.
So I'm not sitting here thinking there's some travesty some
you know, my gosh, somebody was wronged here. Thirty two
NFL teams are trying to win games. They didn't feel
like Shador made them a better team, and now he's
in the Browns that drafted a guy in the third round,
(07:39):
So that doesn't make any sense. Here's Ready Quinn talking
about the prank call made to Shador Sanders by the
son of the Falcons defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
As having gone through someone who was drafted.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It's a dream, you know.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
This is something that players put a lot of time, efforts,
sacrifice into for that moment you get the call, and
that call for many players who get drafted, that's one
of the most memorable moments of their life. So to
have someone do something so immature, so ridiculously stupid, to
(08:17):
take away from that or like impart themselves on someone
else's dream or that moment, it stinks. It stinks all
the way around. So I hate this for Shador and
then every other player that it's happened to. And we'll
get to that in a second. But here's the other
side of the conversation, as dumb as it was, and
(08:38):
Jackson's come out and apologized. I think he called Shador
Sanders too, at least it looked like on social media
to own up to how stupid of a mistake it was.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean, I'm not a big prank call guy, but
I do think it's interesting on how much attention a
prank call has gotten. When Cooper de John whisked prank
called yet last year and no one said anything about it,
So whatever, I mean again, I never liked the prank
call for the Howard Stern Show. I don't like in
this case, but I don't think it's in the world.
(09:14):
It definitely takes away from the moment, no question. But
don't you have color? I d don't you? That's what
the Fox is say.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And now it's your annoying, hey, Doug. The Eagles are
a meeting at the White House today. The breaking news
is that Jalen Hurts had a schedule conflict.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
H scheduling conflict.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Saquon Barkley went out there a day ahead of time.
There's a video of him getting off an Air Force
one with the President, and I think they played around
a golf Sequon put out a tweet that simply read,
get out of my mentions, and then he posted this today. Uh,
some people are really upset because I played golf and
food of the White House with the President. Maybe I
(10:22):
just respect the office. Not a hard concept to understand, BINGO,
I really, I mean, I've read the La Times columns,
Dylan Hernandez being one of them. I think Platchki even
jumped on just berating this Dodgers team for going. It's
just it's I just don't get this. I don't I
(10:45):
get the vitriol, but I don't see how respecting the
office accepting an invitation from the White House to celebrate
a major accomplishment. I don't know how you can criticize that.
You could have your problems with Trump. I just don't
understand how you could criticize somebody for choosing to go
with their team to celebrate something you accomplished. And the
(11:08):
Dodgers got shipped for it. I'm sure the Eagles will
Saquon I think pactically.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Has anybody of legitimacy given them shit. Oh yeah, no, No,
here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's what I'm saying. The only times have had op
eds about it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
An op ed is not legitimate nobody. Again, I don't
care about an op ed. I just I don't. I'm saying,
does anybody legitimate go like you wouldn't go?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This is so, I mean, honestly. As dumb as it
is to criticize, it's even dumber to talk about people
who are criticizing somebody for choosing to like, who fucking cares?
Why do we care? The guy won his second election
that he's won. He's the president United States, He's he's
the most powerful man in the free world. Again, I
don't agree with a lot of his policies. He wants
to be playing goh fucking I'm playing Golf of the
(11:54):
tomorrow again. And anybody who criticized that it's too fucking
stupid and caught up in their own feelings to realize it.
So they don't matter, including whoever wrote that up ed.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And I would I would say this if there's a
It's really strange how the side that's criticizing Saquon here
and was criticizing the Dodgers, they're all about like the
lack of institutions or lack of respect for institutions, and
then they criticized somebody for respecting an institution. It's a
(12:25):
it's a hypocrisy that that is hard to uh to measure. Yes,
mel Kuiper had a conniption. I don't know if you
could say that anymore. One of those words like spastic
that you can't say anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Or well, you can't say you're target, but do you
say spastic?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I got, I got what do you call that? Criticized
on Twitter once for it, So I just assumed everyone
hates it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But again, is it anybody who matters?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
No, but Twitter is a good barometer.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
No it's not.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's a good like of like, no, it's any sentiment.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No it's not.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Lizzo got uh. She got criticized because she used the
word spaz, which is that related to spastic? Of course
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, called the spasmatics, right, and so they were like, yeah,
it is his ablest language, blah blah.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Blah's like one of those things. Were like, it was
a medical term a long time ago. Then it became
a term for the kid that had ADHD, and now
it's been canceled. I think conniption fit. I remember from
stand by Me. Great term. Great term, conniption is a
good one. He had a conniption on Saturday. Mel Kiper's
(13:34):
reputation is on the line, and he was the loudest
towards the NFL about it. Well, you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You don't have to sell it to me.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
No, I know what we're talking about here, right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yes, you're right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But you know what, but the draft has spoken. That's right.
That that's the key mail. It's not.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
It's not putting a value judgment of whether those n
play right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They did so.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Now, whenever you're in circum stances in life, whether you
liked them, whether you don't like them, whether they're fair,
whether they're unfair, you might have to deal with. Now
Schaedeer Sandman has to deal with every temper, whatever reason,
whether he played a minute, microscopic percentage, zero percentage, or
it's a legitimate criticism of the way he conducted himself
(14:19):
during the draft process.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
This was the result.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Now he has an opportunity to answer it. There's not
I mean, I think yelling at the NFL about it, it's.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Not not a quarterback Bob at Boomer size and was not.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Happy when he was the second round there, Rob happy
they dropped?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How'd they turn out?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I put every argument by that.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Why that can have rates?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The NFL has been fluids for fifteen years when it comes.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
To evaluating quarterback, clueless all that have no idea what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's evaluating quarterback. That's proof. There's proof of that.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
How many day we.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Know exactly what we're talking about with quarterback?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I think the last part gives it away, right, Doug,
the NFL doesn't know about evaluation a quarterback and we do.
This was for whatever reason, he got his feelings really
hurt by the by this drop. And I think it's
like the end of l Kuiper, right, I mean, was
his he was unhinged.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, it depends, it depends if Shdorr Sanders can really play.
Then it's three births of mel Kuiper. But again, like
they they signed, they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round,
and by all accounts, one of the teams that he
blew off was the Cleveland Browns. So yeah, I don't think.
(15:34):
I don't think Arew Berry wants him there I don't
think he sticks there. I could be wrong, But if
if you know, schdor standards becomes the starter, well no,
I don't think it's the end of him. I think
this is a wait and see.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It's interesting because I guess every network is a rights
holder for the NFL. They've spread themselves so so so wide.
But like this is an example of like is ESPN
going to be a news organization or is ESPN going
to promote the next freshman of the NFL class Because
(16:06):
mal Kiper blaming the NFL seems to be like crossing
that line. Like if I'm the NFL, do I want
any UESPN doing my draft if that guy's yelling at us?
All right, So the Brandon Bean went on Buffalo radio
station today. I can't quite find the exactly is in here.
(16:29):
I gotta attribute it. I'll attribute it afterwards. But this
is great. This is just great radio.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I was just listening to the last few minutes of
your show before I came home, waiting on here. All right,
I was like twenty eighteen all over with you guys. Wow,
So well, you guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about
Josh Allen. You guys wanted Josh Rosen and now you
guys are bitching that we don't have a receiver. I
don't get it, like we justco hold on.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Let me talk.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
We just scored thirty points in a row for eight
straight games a year. I get you guys asking why
we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
You just saw us lead the league in points. When
you add all the postseason, no one scored more points
than the Buffalo Bills, including the Super Bowl champions. You
just saw us do it without Stefan Diggs saying group,
how is this group not better than last year's group.
Our job is to score points and win games. Where
do we need to get better defense? We did that,
(17:24):
So I get it. You got to have a show,
We got to have something to bitch about. But bitching
about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That was on WGR five point fifty Jeremy and the
Joe Show. The Jeremy and the Joe Show.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Strong, really strong, and I tend to agree with it
as well, But that was Yeah, it's uncomfortable when you
had to put guys in place, but he clearly had
to put them in place.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I think it's great too that you do this all
the time. There's somebody on hold in your ear. The
producers like he's on hold, and it's funny when hosts
just don't like think about that, like if they were
crushing the draft pick for the receivers while he was
on hold. Yeah, aren't you just asking for that?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes? Yes, anymore?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
No, I got w g R radio hosts Saquon Barkley
get in a bunch of shit? Are the people giving
Saquon a bunch of shit? And then melk Kuiper's conniption.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm gonna go mel Kuiper's condimption. And part of it
is mel was always nice to me. He's been nice
to everybody at ESPN or PEO who work with him.
But this, this is one of those This will make
or Breaker's career probably were likely to break than make,
but you have to at least from the possibility of
it making his career. Well, why could we play it
for you? Because? Uh because sorry? Uh so mel Kuiper
(18:49):
throwing a conniption and on National TV you're a nice.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Why are we doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because we can?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's because we can't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Jase too, this is a This is a throwback. Sometimes
I just can't find good sound. I look, I just
can't find it. But I want to remind everybody that
the Quippers and Nuggets series is one of the best
first round series around there. And Russell Westbrook said this
about what his job is on defense.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah. Yeah, my job is to.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You know, they have dynamic brother was Zoo and great
cutters and the guys that catch libs, and my job
is to be able to be the low men and
find ways to excuse later function it up.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's a great line. You know. It's interesting is if
he had if the team makeup was different, I think
he could play different. It's like the Rhondo thing worked
because they had, you know, for superstars around him and
what happens in Milwaukee, so that part's would be interesting.
Why could we play for you because we can't. That's
it for the In the Motus podcast, I got the
(19:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
What a Golic Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
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I love when people try and push back on the
Sdor Sanders late drafting by saying, how do you know
(00:30):
he'll be a distraction? How do we know? Well, Shadoor
Sanders is all we've talked about about the draft. You know,
probably of the conversations ninety eight percent of about Shadoor Sanders.
And she can't play a stap. It's barely been alive
or with him long enough to establish having having something
(00:52):
to take care of your man with. And Soore's gonna
have to go out there and kind of make it
on his own now, can he? Sure will he? I
don't think so Or. They still have quarterbacks there, they
have their own they have to clear out and whatever
their level of whatever their love of expectations here, whatever
level of expectation here, we throw a wile around the
(01:14):
word distraction. And I don't think Shador was drafted as
low as he's drafted purely because he's a distraction. But
once you get to the third, fourth and fifth round,
which is by all estimations, what his skill level actually is.
Right now, you have to be solely invested, solely invested
(01:34):
in the starter having a great week. That's it. That's
your only thing that matters to you, completely and totally.
And it's just crazy to me how anyone in their
right mind could not see the level of distraction when
that's all anybody discussed. I mean, it was really hard
(01:55):
to figure out who is drafting who and whatever like
granted green Bay's mind home, and so the Packers drafting
two wide receivers became a big story, especially drafting Matthew
Golden with their first pick. But it is it's at
minimum interesting, if nothing else, eye opening on how much
discussion Shador Sanders got. And then you can't tell us
(02:18):
he's not a distraction. Plus, i mean, all of these
stories you're hearing about his level of arrogance, we can
actually see that on tape. Maybe that's confirmation bias, but
we can actually see that. And then you factor in
that the NFL scouts don't believe he has the talent
to be a surefire starter, and you can see why
(02:38):
he fell where he fell in the draft. If anything,
it's all those mock drafts that are to blame, and
now I think we all know the value of those
mock drafts.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
App Let's get to the Fox as and now every
day of this time, in the Boats Podcast, you play
a portion of a previous show on Fox Sports Trader
of Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick talking about Shadure's
slide in the draft.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The number of revisionist history experts who've come out to
tell us, now, why should or Sanders dropped? Where were
you guys before the draft? Where was everybody before this happened?
The only thing I told you was at the end
of the show on Thursday, prior to the first round,
(03:32):
my source said I don't have a first round great
on him. That was it, And he did say this
wasn't He didn't look at the interviewing or how poorly
should Or Sanders interviewed. He said, I'm just looking at
football stuff. He goes, I'm looking at what I saw.
Now he was at the Shrine Bowl, and you know,
should Or didn't do any of the drills down there,
(03:53):
and they felt that he was a little stand offish
with that, or Hey, I know where I'm going, where
I'm going to be drafted, I'll put up with this
sort of dog and pony show. But you start to
hear these stories that he's doing a FaceTime while he's
in an interview with the Giants with the team meeting.
That would be a red flag. But do I think
(04:14):
this is a league wide conspiracy? Do I think it's collusion?
I don't, because the NFL is cutthroat. These coaches know
they get two years maybe three at the most to
be able to hold onto their jobs or gms.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think this is one of those things that by now,
if you're still in the league, is conspiring against. Whether
it's shador Dion Black, quarterbacks, outspoken quarterbacks, whatever, There's nothing
we can really say. There's no sort of proof that
we can give you. If there are people, if that's
what you think this is about, you're going to think
(04:53):
what that's about. Whereas if you read actual analysis, there's
lots of people who cover the NFL, not Namail kiper Tree,
who don't believe, just talent wise, that he's in the
discussion of a first, second, or third round pick, and
then you factor in the attitude the ego does he
actually we can he actually be a backup, a developmental
guy in this league? And you lead to your questions.
(05:15):
So this feels like the Jordan Lebron debate, even though
it just you know, it just perked up on last Friday,
where everyone is so ingrained in their sides, it's really
hard to see you going like, no, you know what,
You're right. I see it a different way. This is
(05:36):
Dan Byer, co host with Mike Harmon saying this about
Dion Sanders factoring into Sure's slide.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
In all of this fair or unfair, I feel that
Dion Sanders is to blame for this for the simple
fact of not Dion as a father, Dion as a father.
I think what felt burned when these picks were going
off the board and is Sun wasn't taken, his player
(06:02):
wasn't taken. There's obviously remorse and hard feelings there. But
throughout this whole process it has been the Dion way,
the promotion, the logos, the whole deal, which has gone
back for as far as when Dion was entering the league.
Like of the flash of when Dion enters in nineteen
eighty nine. So if anybody knows what this is all about,
(06:25):
it should be Dion. And if you're having bad interviews,
if you're saying we're not going to go to certain teams,
which I.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Don't have a problem with. I don't have a problem
with the Mannings.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Did it.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We don't want to go to San Diego. We don't
want to go there, so they force a trade to
New York. We've seen that before. I don't have a
problem with any of that. But when you're not Deon
Sanders and you're not Eli Manning, and your talent doesn't
rise to that level, then you have to kind of
dance with the devil that that you're bringing into play,
and that is this slide.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I think I think Dan's right. He didn't help it,
And yeah, he just didn't help it. I mean, he
made his son incredibly unlikable. And then when you factor
in some of the other fathers have been involved in
their team sports child's life, and it makes it additionally
(07:17):
hard whether Dion is that guy or isn't that guy.
So I'm not sitting here thinking there's some travesty some
you know, my gosh, somebody was wronged here. Thirty two
NFL teams are trying to win games. They didn't feel
like Shador made them a better team, and now he's
in the Browns that drafted a guy in the third round,
(07:39):
So that doesn't make any sense. Here's Ready Quinn talking
about the prank call made to Shador Sanders by the
son of the Falcons defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
As having gone through someone who was drafted.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It's a dream, you know.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
This is something that players put a lot of time, efforts,
sacrifice into for that moment you get the call, and
that call for many players who get drafted, that's one
of the most memorable moments of their life. So to
have someone do something so immature, so ridiculously stupid, to
(08:17):
take away from that or like impart themselves on someone
else's dream or that moment, it stinks. It stinks all
the way around. So I hate this for Shador and
then every other player that it's happened to. And we'll
get to that in a second. But here's the other
side of the conversation, as dumb as it was, and
(08:38):
Jackson's come out and apologized. I think he called Shador
Sanders too, at least it looked like on social media
to own up to how stupid of a mistake it was.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean, I'm not a big prank call guy, but
I do think it's interesting on how much attention a
prank call has gotten. When Cooper de John whisked prank
called yet last year and no one said anything about it,
So whatever, I mean again, I never liked the prank
call for the Howard Stern Show. I don't like in
this case, but I don't think it's in the world.
(09:14):
It definitely takes away from the moment, no question. But
don't you have color? I d don't you? That's what
the Fox is say.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And now it's your annoying, hey, Doug. The Eagles are
a meeting at the White House today. The breaking news
is that Jalen Hurts had a schedule conflict.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
H scheduling conflict.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Saquon Barkley went out there a day ahead of time.
There's a video of him getting off an Air Force
one with the President, and I think they played around
a golf Sequon put out a tweet that simply read,
get out of my mentions, and then he posted this today. Uh,
some people are really upset because I played golf and
food of the White House with the President. Maybe I
(10:22):
just respect the office. Not a hard concept to understand, BINGO,
I really, I mean, I've read the La Times columns,
Dylan Hernandez being one of them. I think Platchki even
jumped on just berating this Dodgers team for going. It's
just it's I just don't get this. I don't I
(10:45):
get the vitriol, but I don't see how respecting the
office accepting an invitation from the White House to celebrate
a major accomplishment. I don't know how you can criticize that.
You could have your problems with Trump. I just don't
understand how you could criticize somebody for choosing to go
with their team to celebrate something you accomplished. And the
(11:08):
Dodgers got shipped for it. I'm sure the Eagles will
Saquon I think pactically.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Has anybody of legitimacy given them shit. Oh yeah, no, No,
here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's what I'm saying. The only times have had op
eds about it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
An op ed is not legitimate nobody. Again, I don't
care about an op ed. I just I don't. I'm saying,
does anybody legitimate go like you wouldn't go?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This is so, I mean, honestly. As dumb as it
is to criticize, it's even dumber to talk about people
who are criticizing somebody for choosing to like, who fucking cares?
Why do we care? The guy won his second election
that he's won. He's the president United States, He's he's
the most powerful man in the free world. Again, I
don't agree with a lot of his policies. He wants
to be playing goh fucking I'm playing Golf of the
(11:54):
tomorrow again. And anybody who criticized that it's too fucking
stupid and caught up in their own feelings to realize it.
So they don't matter, including whoever wrote that up ed.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And I would I would say this if there's a
It's really strange how the side that's criticizing Saquon here
and was criticizing the Dodgers, they're all about like the
lack of institutions or lack of respect for institutions, and
then they criticized somebody for respecting an institution. It's a
(12:25):
it's a hypocrisy that that is hard to uh to measure. Yes,
mel Kuiper had a conniption. I don't know if you
could say that anymore. One of those words like spastic
that you can't say anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Or well, you can't say you're target, but do you
say spastic?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I got, I got what do you call that? Criticized
on Twitter once for it, So I just assumed everyone
hates it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But again, is it anybody who matters?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
No, but Twitter is a good barometer.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
No it's not.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's a good like of like, no, it's any sentiment.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No it's not.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Lizzo got uh. She got criticized because she used the
word spaz, which is that related to spastic? Of course
that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, called the spasmatics, right, and so they were like, yeah,
it is his ablest language, blah blah.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Blah's like one of those things. Were like, it was
a medical term a long time ago. Then it became
a term for the kid that had ADHD, and now
it's been canceled. I think conniption fit. I remember from
stand by Me. Great term. Great term, conniption is a
good one. He had a conniption on Saturday. Mel Kiper's
(13:34):
reputation is on the line, and he was the loudest
towards the NFL about it. Well, you're not.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
You don't have to sell it to me.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
No, I know what we're talking about here, right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yes, you're right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But you know what, but the draft has spoken. That's right.
That that's the key mail. It's not.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
It's not putting a value judgment of whether those n
play right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They did so.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Now, whenever you're in circum stances in life, whether you
liked them, whether you don't like them, whether they're fair,
whether they're unfair, you might have to deal with. Now
Schaedeer Sandman has to deal with every temper, whatever reason,
whether he played a minute, microscopic percentage, zero percentage, or
it's a legitimate criticism of the way he conducted himself
(14:19):
during the draft process.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
This was the result.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Now he has an opportunity to answer it. There's not
I mean, I think yelling at the NFL about it, it's.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Not not a quarterback Bob at Boomer size and was not.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Happy when he was the second round there, Rob happy
they dropped?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
How'd they turn out?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I put every argument by that.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Why that can have rates?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The NFL has been fluids for fifteen years when it comes.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
To evaluating quarterback, clueless all that have no idea what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's evaluating quarterback. That's proof. There's proof of that.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
How many day we.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Know exactly what we're talking about with quarterback?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I think the last part gives it away, right, Doug,
the NFL doesn't know about evaluation a quarterback and we do.
This was for whatever reason, he got his feelings really
hurt by the by this drop. And I think it's
like the end of l Kuiper, right, I mean, was
his he was unhinged.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, it depends, it depends if Shdorr Sanders can really play.
Then it's three births of mel Kuiper. But again, like
they they signed, they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round,
and by all accounts, one of the teams that he
blew off was the Cleveland Browns. So yeah, I don't think.
(15:34):
I don't think Arew Berry wants him there I don't
think he sticks there. I could be wrong, But if
if you know, schdor standards becomes the starter, well no,
I don't think it's the end of him. I think
this is a wait and see.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It's interesting because I guess every network is a rights
holder for the NFL. They've spread themselves so so so wide.
But like this is an example of like is ESPN
going to be a news organization or is ESPN going
to promote the next freshman of the NFL class Because
(16:06):
mal Kiper blaming the NFL seems to be like crossing
that line. Like if I'm the NFL, do I want
any UESPN doing my draft if that guy's yelling at us?
All right, So the Brandon Bean went on Buffalo radio
station today. I can't quite find the exactly is in here.
(16:29):
I gotta attribute it. I'll attribute it afterwards. But this
is great. This is just great radio.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I was just listening to the last few minutes of
your show before I came home, waiting on here. All right,
I was like twenty eighteen all over with you guys. Wow,
So well, you guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about
Josh Allen. You guys wanted Josh Rosen and now you
guys are bitching that we don't have a receiver. I
don't get it, like we justco hold on.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Let me talk.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
We just scored thirty points in a row for eight
straight games a year. I get you guys asking why
we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
You just saw us lead the league in points. When
you add all the postseason, no one scored more points
than the Buffalo Bills, including the Super Bowl champions. You
just saw us do it without Stefan Diggs saying group,
how is this group not better than last year's group.
Our job is to score points and win games. Where
do we need to get better defense? We did that,
(17:24):
So I get it. You got to have a show,
We got to have something to bitch about. But bitching
about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
That was on WGR five point fifty Jeremy and the
Joe Show. The Jeremy and the Joe Show.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Strong, really strong, and I tend to agree with it
as well, But that was Yeah, it's uncomfortable when you
had to put guys in place, but he clearly had
to put them in place.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I think it's great too that you do this all
the time. There's somebody on hold in your ear. The
producers like he's on hold, and it's funny when hosts
just don't like think about that, like if they were
crushing the draft pick for the receivers while he was
on hold. Yeah, aren't you just asking for that?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes? Yes, anymore?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
No, I got w g R radio hosts Saquon Barkley
get in a bunch of shit? Are the people giving
Saquon a bunch of shit? And then melk Kuiper's conniption.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm gonna go mel Kuiper's condimption. And part of it
is mel was always nice to me. He's been nice
to everybody at ESPN or PEO who work with him.
But this, this is one of those This will make
or Breaker's career probably were likely to break than make,
but you have to at least from the possibility of
it making his career. Well, why could we play it
for you? Because? Uh because sorry? Uh so mel Kuiper
(18:49):
throwing a conniption and on National TV you're a nice.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Why are we doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because we can?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's because we can't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Jase too, this is a This is a throwback. Sometimes
I just can't find good sound. I look, I just
can't find it. But I want to remind everybody that
the Quippers and Nuggets series is one of the best
first round series around there. And Russell Westbrook said this
about what his job is on defense.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah. Yeah, my job is to.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You know, they have dynamic brother was Zoo and great
cutters and the guys that catch libs, and my job
is to be able to be the low men and
find ways to excuse later function it up.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's a great line. You know. It's interesting is if
he had if the team makeup was different, I think
he could play different. It's like the Rhondo thing worked
because they had, you know, for superstars around him and
what happens in Milwaukee, so that part's would be interesting.
Why could we play for you because we can't. That's
it for the In the Motus podcast, I got the
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