April 30, 2025 • 24 mins
Doug riffs about Bill Belichick. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on Tyrese Haliburton's father. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Giannis makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I do think today is a good day to talk
about the Belichick interview. It's I mean, it's almost cliche,
isn't it. Like the next thing I know, Bill Belichick's
driving a Porsche. That's the only thing I can think of, right, Like,
here's a guy in his seventies. And do I think
Bill Belichick when you cut out, when you cut out
(00:40):
the football, Bill Belichick is charming? Yeah, damn right he is.
I'm sure he is sore, he's charming, relatable, interesting, whatever.
But like, she's twenty four, she's pretty good looking, and
nothing is sexier than power, and clearly clearly they have,
you know, she's attracted the power of Bill Belichick. I
(01:02):
just it's so creepy. It's like I saw Jim Rum
do the exactly what we talked about, blink twice. If
you're being held hostage, being held against your will, Bill,
it's so weird to watch somebody go through that and
go like, doesn't he know what's happening here? Does he
have any idea? Just awkward as hell? Awkward, awkward, awkward,
(01:28):
And I mean we've seen this, like Hugh Hefner, and
there's always been billionaires who have like some really young,
really young like second third, fourth wife. But to see
it in real time, to see it in regards of football,
and then for Belichick to act like he can't believe
that when he was doing the press interview with CBS,
(01:49):
can't believe they asked about his twenty four year old
girlfriend who's everywhere with him, acts like his manager, like
I can't believe they went off topic, Like everyone wants
to know, dude, that's part of the deal. I love
that you wrote a book about yourself, but you didn't
want to include what you're doing now, what you're up
to now. So yeah, this it's so incredibly cliche, right.
(02:18):
I remember for a long time, guys you're like, yeah,
when you when you get divorced, data guy, data, g
uh cut your agent half ADD six Like yeah, no thanks,
that's not even in half. That's intense at AD six.
But you know, there's always going to be a group
of guys like, yeah, good for him, But when you
see it actually play out, when you see her answering
(02:41):
questions for him, controlling him, it's I don't know, I
just get uncomfortable, like, what is this dude doing? What
is he doing? And it does show that guys are manipulable,
manipulate the bull. Maybe she is, Maybe she's just she is,
She's going to take the take the heat. She's gonna
(03:01):
be the Yoko Ono. And he ends up, you know,
kind of avoiding any sort of criticism because of it.
But it's one of the more uncomfortable things I've ever seen.
And the funny part about it is Today with North Carolina.
With North Carolina letterhead, he wrote a He wrote an
(03:21):
open letter basically chastising CBS for going off topic when
it's the only topic and a bit of cares about.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
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We played for your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader
Fox Sports One show. Here's Rob Barker and Kevin Washington,
the odd couple talking about Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
If you're the president and the pad athletic director at
UNC and you're watching what unfolded in front of you,
I would fire Bill Belichick and say this is not
a good fit. This is looking awful for a university
that a grown ass man who's in his seventies is
(04:15):
having a relationship with a.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
College age girl.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'll say that at twenty four years old, she's running
him around like a puppy dog on the leech leash.
And Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Has hired her.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Right, don't you have a job with the university? Like
what is going on here North Carolina? This is really
what you want to display. Your football coach is parading
around a woman like fifty years younger than him. The unit,
think the students, the football team. That's the example you
(04:54):
want to set.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
The irony that mister run a tight ship, mister no
distractions to run the Patriots down in the military, will
be now getting his whole entire life ran by a
twenty four year old is mad, weird, It's really suspicious,
and it leads you to say well, what's really going on?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I mean, I think you know what's going on right,
Like we're really having this discussion when when guys go
through divorce and I've gone through one, I know, Jay
stew I don't know if you're married and he went
through a breakup of of your the mom of your son.
I mean, especially when you're a little bit older, is
(05:37):
a lot of times you go through these weird sort
of relationships, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It the idea maybe love, yeah, not so many fifty
years younger than you, forty five years whatever like that.
That that part is just so crazy ridiculous. But you're
not going to fire him for it. Definitely Again, if
(06:05):
you want to open yourself up to litigation and cost
yourself fifty million dollars, yeah, fire a guy for a
for two adults having a relationship optics aside. There's no
cause there you can find to fire somebody. So it
sounds really good, it looks really weird. I'm not in
(06:27):
any way disputing that it's uncomfortable to talk about. But
you work for a state institution. You can't fire somebody
because you disagree with two consenting adults having it, having
a have a relationship doesn't work that way. Here's Colin Cowherd.
He said this about the worst hot take in sports.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Can we stop with this narrative? It's the worst take
and narrative happening in sports now. Yeah, the NFL just
doesn't know what they're doing with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Time out.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Stop making chadu Or and Dion Sanders the victim here.
They're not. It's all really explainable. Chador didn't hire an agent,
big mistake. He just listened to his dad. Bigger mistake.
Dion had the talent to sandbag interviews. Shador doesn't.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, brock Purty fell to the seventh but he was
one in six against playoff teams last year when many
of his stars weren't healthy, and nobody thinks brock perty
is an elite, world class Josh Allen athlete, He's not close. Yes,
Joe Montana went in the third round, but he doesn't
win those Super Bowls without the greatest offensive coach in
the history of the league, Bill Walsh and Brady got
(07:37):
a bunch of Super Bowls and he went in the
sixth round, and he doesn't win all those early Super
Bowls without the greatest coach slash defensive coach in league history,
Bill Belichick. It's all explainable. Okay, in my life, the
best quarterbacks have overwhelmingly been in the first round. U.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I mean it is one of those we have
a tendency to hyper focus on the missus and not
focus on on the hits. Everybody is different, but we
do this thing where we have a confirmation bias and
we can pick a one off outlier, right, one off outlier.
(08:18):
But here's the easier way to do it. Just do
all time passing leaders in the NFL. Okay, that's all
you gotta do. Just type in and you'll go to
Pro Football Reference dot com. Okay, Tom Brady's the sixth
round pick. Drew Brees' the second round pick. Peyton Manny's
a first round pick. Brett Farve was the first run pick.
(08:40):
Ben Rothzsberger's first pound pick, Philip Rivers the first run pick.
Aaron Rodgers the first rum pick. Matt Ryan was number
one overall pick. Dan Marino is a first rump pick.
Matthew Stafford's number one overall pick. Eli Manning was number
one pick. John Elway was a first run pick. One
Moon was not right. Carson Homer was the number one
(09:01):
overall pick, and he Testa Ferdy was the number one
overall pick. Russell Wilson was not Joe Flacco. I think
Joe Flacco was first round? Do we remember Joe Flacco?
I can't remember what round he was he was drafted in.
I think it was first round, almost positive, right, Drew
Bledsoe was the first run pick. Yeah, Flaco's first round.
(09:25):
Dan Fouts was Dan Fouts. I'm guessing he was a
first round pick, but I don't. Yeah, Dan Fouts was
a third round pick. Okay, So we just went through
the top twenty all time pass leaders in the NFL
Top twenty and of them, what four of them were
not first round picks? Is that about?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Are about four or five? So generally the hit rate,
I mean again, if you keep going down. You know
Alex Smith number one overall pick? Is is he a
great player?
Speaker 8 (09:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But you got to go through Jared Goff. There are outliers,
but generally you get it right. And the other part too.
It is like if we're honest with ourselves, Okay, Tom Brady,
(10:16):
Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Brett Farr, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers. Uh,
all of those guys have this one thing in common, right,
Matt Ryan, Dan Marino, guys love them. Dan Marino's confident
but not arrogant. Tell me the guy who carries himself
the way that Shuder carries himself. Because that's really what
(10:37):
it comes down to. People is, oh, well, they don't
know what they're doing. In case some point, should a
Sanders even Lamar Jackson, who all the teams passed on.
He was in fact a first round pick of the Ravens.
He was their second pick of the first round. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about pacer star Tyrese.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Haliburton's dad, dad goes on, what if what if he
says something Jannest hits him just I know you we
you don't want to think that way, but you have
to think that way because they're right. They're nose to
nose at one point, and Yannis is saying things to him,
and here's his dad like, I don't know how they allowed.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
This to happen.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Oh, he's probably saying, hey, Yiannis, you're an incredible competitor,
and I you know, you should be proud of what
you'd know. He's talking trash to Jannis but the players
they reacted with class. And Yannis said, look, you you
win with class, lose with class.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But this, what is this?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Then Tyree's Haliburton shouldn't be answering questions about his dad
after a game like that. Dad, it's not about you
hate to say.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This to you. Your son's the star, not you. Let
your son be the star, not.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You, Stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Of course, we
agree that that's the whole thing here is we have
so many of these dads and look, I'm a dad.
You know, my dad was a lot. My dad believed
in me, but my dad did not you know. I
(12:13):
think when I originally signed at Notre Dame, he spoke
at my press conference. In hindsight, that was uncomfortable after that,
and we had to talk about it at some point
during my year off. He was never in front of
the camera for me ever. Again, you know, you just
you want what's best for your kid, but you didn't
(12:36):
actually play, You didn't actually do shit. And that's what
a lot of these parents kind of run into. Right.
You can't live vicariously through them. You just got to
cheer for him, love him, I hug him and be
their biggest fan. But yeah, that was If I'm Tyrese Halbert,
I'm I'm embarrassing. But like that's been his being in Wisconsin.
I know that's been his dad his whole life. So obviously,
(12:57):
you don't do what he did. You don't step on
the court. You're not part of the team, you're not
part of the celebration. You definitely don't get in the
face of an MVP, even if the reality is Giannis
was awful down the stretch. Uh, he's got to live
with it. You get in his face, doesn't do anything.
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I say.
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Speaker 2 (13:28):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
The word choke. I don't know why people are so
sensitive around this work. I'm gonna play for you two
sound bites from consecutive nights on Inside the NBA. Sam
played the second one first twenty nine. This is Charles
Barkley from two nights ago.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
This might be the worst game I've ever watched Ernie.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
I try not to have used the word quit or choked.
You can see I'm not very Southern music. Understand this
is quitting at his finest right here.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
And then this is Charles Brokley last night as they're
doing the highlights of the Bucks game.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Look at this.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
Milwaukee was up one to eighteen, one eleven with forty
seconds to go. Gary Trentz had a huge game, but
he's turned it over twice in the closing seconds. And
look at Tyrese Halliburton joke down one. Come on man,
now one.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't like using the word choke, but I would
go two, dad, come on, man.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
So that's two nights in a row that he's had
to qualify his language. I've never understood this. If that
Bucks performance last night isn't a choke, then remove it
from the lexicon. Like for whatever reason, in recent years,
people have been really uh, really sensitive and walking on
eggshells when it comes to athletes or teams choking. I've
(15:12):
never quite understood that. I was raised on a show
that calling athletes chokers was like a daily activity. All
of a sudden, nowadays people have to qualify their language.
What's going on here? Is it the pussification of America?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's for some reason. Saying somebody choked is like
saying that they're a worthless human being. Like that's actually
what's happened. It's so incredibly strange. Yeah, I don't know
if it's a yeah, it's like, that's such a harsh term.
You can't say it. The Gary Trent choked last night.
He fucking choked, Like there's nothing there's no other way
(15:49):
to say it, Like, and we want to say the
Bucks Gary Trent. He catches the ball in bounds, okay,
when they're up four, and he has a wide open layup,
and that he holds the ball without dribbling, tries to
pass the ball back to his point guard, get stolen,
and then when it's a one point game, it's passed him,
he's wide open, he drops it and it falls out
(16:10):
of bounds. Gary Trent Junior choked. And I don't think
even he would argue with that. There's no other way
to explain what he did.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, I saw you tweet about the Knicks uniforms last night,
and I'm glad you did. Sounds like you didn't like
the look of the uniforms. This is just just one example.
Dan Bayern and I were talking about this yesterday. This
is one example I think of Adam Silver like giving
in too much to his ADHD gen Z players. Do
(16:46):
we really need new uniforms every game? We need new
You can't wear the same uniform twice in consecutive games.
Do we need to have different colored courts on the
same I mean that the Warriors court for the last game,
you had to like look real extra hard to see
who the players were. More often than not, Doug, when
(17:08):
I tune into like I don't know ESPN Sports Center
or whatever, and I just come in midstream, I have
to like look two or three times to figure out
what teams are playing, and I usually can't decipher it
by looking at the players. I have to look down
at the graphic to see which one's which, and then
I have to decipher which one on the court is which.
(17:29):
I thought like brand recognition was a thing, was a
true and tried test of something. Why are we changing
uniforms every single game for every team?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well again, I think, look, they do it obviously to
sell more jerseys, right, I don't care midseason you're in
the playoffs. You're the New York Knicks. You're the New
York Knicks. I can even go Steven A. Smith, Yo,
the fucking New York Knicks. You wear the New York
(18:02):
Knicks fucking uniforms and nothing fucking else. It's the fucking playoffs.
Are you kidding me? No one sees the world this way.
I don't think it's Adam Silver's gen z. I think
it's people in marketing thinking, hey, we can make a
couple extra bucks doing it. You can. But just because
you're making a couple extra bucks wearing some fucking ugly
uniforms doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It doesn't.
(18:24):
This is where the NFL is just smarter. Do they
have some ugly uniforms that are alternatives, yes, But what
are they wear in the playoffs? They wear their traditional uniforms.
You're the New York Yicks. Wear your fucking traditional uniforms.
Stop with this bullshit. That was awful. That was awful,
crazy game, unbelievable nding. Okay, but you're the New York Knicks.
Wear your New York Knicks uniforms. Period.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Stop.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know what is significant is getting fined one hundred
thousand dollars. Maybe if you're Elon Musk, that's not that much.
Maybe if you own the Falcons that isn't much. But
any like normal paid public figure, one hundred thousand dollars
is a lot. Now. I looked up Obrick's salary. He's
(19:11):
gonna make one point six million this year. I had
no idea he made that much money. That's incredible. So
when I saw he was fined one hundred thousand dollars,
I'm like, whoa. And then I thinking, imagine in your
life having to give away they did this like one
sixth of your salary or maybe one twelfth, I don't
know because of something that your twenty one year old did.
(19:34):
Just imagine that and how pissed off you would be
at your twenty one year old because your twenty one
year old not only costs you one hundred thousand dollars,
but your twenty one year old thought it was cool
to post the indiscretion on social media.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, it's bad, but I mean, one hundred plous dollars
fine is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
It's a sixteenth of his salary. He's a one point
six you know, one hundred thousand, So yeah, that's if
someone takes a sixteenth of your salary for the full year,
that's a lot of money. One hundred thousand a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean again I I I think it's
a bullshit. Fine, I think it's way too much, way
too excessive. We are so oh my god, somebody did
something mean to Shador Standers. You know, the same thing
was done to uh, what's the kid from Iowa last year.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
It's happened to Cooper de jen it happened to Abdul Carter,
It's now happened to Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, did we find those guys? I mean, like, his
son's an idiot for fucking posting it right. Everything else
was like anonymous, it looks really really bad. I get it, okay,
but one hundred thousand and fine, it's like what the
fuck are we doing here? But again, it's all because
Shador Sander's like, oh my god, he's poor kid. He's
in his feelings over it, like stop it stop. This
(20:52):
is to go back to what you said previously, Jason,
this is the Pacific passification of America.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
So this is coming up out of your allowance. It's
coming out of your allowance, son.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You know, one hundred thousand dollars a lot of money,
and yeah, I mean, look, no one in the NFL
or associated with an NFL coach is ever going to
do it again, but that's not going to stop anybody
else from doing it. Look for the record, I hate
that shit. I've always hated the Baba Booie thing where
guys calling him Baba booey. That's fucking dumb. I like
(21:23):
Howard Stern calling in legit news organizations during times or crisis.
It's not funny. It's not and I don't think it's
particularly funny break calling a guy or whatever. But I'll
also tell you that one hundred thousand dollars is incredibly
excessive anything else.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So that then we have NBA uniform changes and the
word choke.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think, I think our apologies for the word choker knowing,
especially when it becomes obvious. Do I think the word
choke is thrown around too much? I do, But the
way in which that thing went down, that was a choke,
and I'm okay with it. So to people who want
to change the English language and make it softer.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yh not, why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Something we played on the radio show, uh Jannis had
one of the more thoughtful UH, I guess you would
say measured responses I've ever seen from an athlete about
Haliburton's debt three minutes of Gold. But this was the
part that we could play on because we can, And
I don't think he doesn't strike me as a guy
(22:46):
who cusses a lot, so I think this might be
a one off.
Speaker 12 (22:49):
My thing I'll say is that I believe like being
humbled in victory. That's how I am. Now, this can
be a lot of people out there that are like, no,
when you when you win the game, go talk Sheath
and you know it's it's a green light for you
to be disrespectful towards somebody else.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Do you have the whole thing? Are you not gonna
play three mints?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
No? I just wanted to play the part that we
could play.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I agree. I totally agree like this idea that you
win and it's cool to talk shit like fucking win
with class, lose with class. I don't see it any
other way. I don't And there are always gonna be
people like, no, you win, you can talk your shit
like That's not how it actually works. That that means
you haven't been through it in real life. And for Milwaukee,
(23:35):
it's a gut wrenching winner lose, but the jumping up
in somebody's face when you win a game. And by
the way, for how Alberton, he made the two big buckets,
but the foul was a complete fucking phantom call that
he got an in one on. I mean, just a
ridiculously phantom call. Why couldn't play it for you? Because
we can't. That's it for the end the Modus Podcast.
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Int.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I do think today is a good day to talk
about the Belichick interview. It's I mean, it's almost cliche,
isn't it. Like the next thing I know, Bill Belichick's
driving a Porsche. That's the only thing I can think of, right, Like,
here's a guy in his seventies. And do I think
Bill Belichick when you cut out, when you cut out
(00:40):
the football, Bill Belichick is charming? Yeah, damn right he is.
I'm sure he is sore, he's charming, relatable, interesting, whatever.
But like, she's twenty four, she's pretty good looking, and
nothing is sexier than power, and clearly clearly they have,
you know, she's attracted the power of Bill Belichick. I
(01:02):
just it's so creepy. It's like I saw Jim Rum
do the exactly what we talked about, blink twice. If
you're being held hostage, being held against your will, Bill,
it's so weird to watch somebody go through that and
go like, doesn't he know what's happening here? Does he
have any idea? Just awkward as hell? Awkward, awkward, awkward,
(01:28):
And I mean we've seen this, like Hugh Hefner, and
there's always been billionaires who have like some really young,
really young like second third, fourth wife. But to see
it in real time, to see it in regards of football,
and then for Belichick to act like he can't believe
that when he was doing the press interview with CBS,
(01:49):
can't believe they asked about his twenty four year old
girlfriend who's everywhere with him, acts like his manager, like
I can't believe they went off topic, Like everyone wants
to know, dude, that's part of the deal. I love
that you wrote a book about yourself, but you didn't
want to include what you're doing now, what you're up
to now. So yeah, this it's so incredibly cliche, right.
(02:18):
I remember for a long time, guys you're like, yeah,
when you when you get divorced, data guy, data, g
uh cut your agent half ADD six Like yeah, no thanks,
that's not even in half. That's intense at AD six.
But you know, there's always going to be a group
of guys like, yeah, good for him, But when you
see it actually play out, when you see her answering
(02:41):
questions for him, controlling him, it's I don't know, I
just get uncomfortable, like, what is this dude doing? What
is he doing? And it does show that guys are manipulable,
manipulate the bull. Maybe she is, Maybe she's just she is,
She's going to take the take the heat. She's gonna
(03:01):
be the Yoko Ono. And he ends up, you know,
kind of avoiding any sort of criticism because of it.
But it's one of the more uncomfortable things I've ever seen.
And the funny part about it is Today with North Carolina.
With North Carolina letterhead, he wrote a He wrote an
(03:21):
open letter basically chastising CBS for going off topic when
it's the only topic and a bit of cares about.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Let's Kid, the Foxes, and now every Day a Time
in the Bonus Podcast and Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Tradio.
We played for your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader
Fox Sports One show. Here's Rob Barker and Kevin Washington,
the odd couple talking about Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
If you're the president and the pad athletic director at
UNC and you're watching what unfolded in front of you,
I would fire Bill Belichick and say this is not
a good fit. This is looking awful for a university
that a grown ass man who's in his seventies is
(04:15):
having a relationship with a.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
College age girl.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I'll say that at twenty four years old, she's running
him around like a puppy dog on the leech leash.
And Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Has hired her.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Right, don't you have a job with the university? Like
what is going on here North Carolina? This is really
what you want to display. Your football coach is parading
around a woman like fifty years younger than him. The unit,
think the students, the football team. That's the example you
(04:54):
want to set.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
The irony that mister run a tight ship, mister no
distractions to run the Patriots down in the military, will
be now getting his whole entire life ran by a
twenty four year old is mad, weird, It's really suspicious,
and it leads you to say well, what's really going on?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I mean, I think you know what's going on right,
Like we're really having this discussion when when guys go
through divorce and I've gone through one, I know, Jay
stew I don't know if you're married and he went
through a breakup of of your the mom of your son.
I mean, especially when you're a little bit older, is
(05:37):
a lot of times you go through these weird sort
of relationships, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It the idea maybe love, yeah, not so many fifty
years younger than you, forty five years whatever like that.
That that part is just so crazy ridiculous. But you're
not going to fire him for it. Definitely Again, if
(06:05):
you want to open yourself up to litigation and cost
yourself fifty million dollars, yeah, fire a guy for a
for two adults having a relationship optics aside. There's no
cause there you can find to fire somebody. So it
sounds really good, it looks really weird. I'm not in
(06:27):
any way disputing that it's uncomfortable to talk about. But
you work for a state institution. You can't fire somebody
because you disagree with two consenting adults having it, having
a have a relationship doesn't work that way. Here's Colin Cowherd.
He said this about the worst hot take in sports.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Can we stop with this narrative? It's the worst take
and narrative happening in sports now. Yeah, the NFL just
doesn't know what they're doing with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Time out.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Stop making chadu Or and Dion Sanders the victim here.
They're not. It's all really explainable. Chador didn't hire an agent,
big mistake. He just listened to his dad. Bigger mistake.
Dion had the talent to sandbag interviews. Shador doesn't.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yes, brock Purty fell to the seventh but he was
one in six against playoff teams last year when many
of his stars weren't healthy, and nobody thinks brock perty
is an elite, world class Josh Allen athlete, He's not close. Yes,
Joe Montana went in the third round, but he doesn't
win those Super Bowls without the greatest offensive coach in
the history of the league, Bill Walsh and Brady got
(07:37):
a bunch of Super Bowls and he went in the
sixth round, and he doesn't win all those early Super
Bowls without the greatest coach slash defensive coach in league history,
Bill Belichick. It's all explainable. Okay, in my life, the
best quarterbacks have overwhelmingly been in the first round. U.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I mean it is one of those we have
a tendency to hyper focus on the missus and not
focus on on the hits. Everybody is different, but we
do this thing where we have a confirmation bias and
we can pick a one off outlier, right, one off outlier.
(08:18):
But here's the easier way to do it. Just do
all time passing leaders in the NFL. Okay, that's all
you gotta do. Just type in and you'll go to
Pro Football Reference dot com. Okay, Tom Brady's the sixth
round pick. Drew Brees' the second round pick. Peyton Manny's
a first round pick. Brett Farve was the first run pick.
(08:40):
Ben Rothzsberger's first pound pick, Philip Rivers the first run pick.
Aaron Rodgers the first rum pick. Matt Ryan was number
one overall pick. Dan Marino is a first rump pick.
Matthew Stafford's number one overall pick. Eli Manning was number
one pick. John Elway was a first run pick. One
Moon was not right. Carson Homer was the number one
(09:01):
overall pick, and he Testa Ferdy was the number one
overall pick. Russell Wilson was not Joe Flacco. I think
Joe Flacco was first round? Do we remember Joe Flacco?
I can't remember what round he was he was drafted in.
I think it was first round, almost positive, right, Drew
Bledsoe was the first run pick. Yeah, Flaco's first round.
(09:25):
Dan Fouts was Dan Fouts. I'm guessing he was a
first round pick, but I don't. Yeah, Dan Fouts was
a third round pick. Okay, So we just went through
the top twenty all time pass leaders in the NFL
Top twenty and of them, what four of them were
not first round picks? Is that about?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Are about four or five? So generally the hit rate,
I mean again, if you keep going down. You know
Alex Smith number one overall pick? Is is he a
great player?
Speaker 8 (09:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But you got to go through Jared Goff. There are outliers,
but generally you get it right. And the other part too.
It is like if we're honest with ourselves, Okay, Tom Brady,
(10:16):
Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Brett Farr, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers. Uh,
all of those guys have this one thing in common, right,
Matt Ryan, Dan Marino, guys love them. Dan Marino's confident
but not arrogant. Tell me the guy who carries himself
the way that Shuder carries himself. Because that's really what
(10:37):
it comes down to. People is, oh, well, they don't
know what they're doing. In case some point, should a
Sanders even Lamar Jackson, who all the teams passed on.
He was in fact a first round pick of the Ravens.
He was their second pick of the first round. Here's
Dan Patrick talking about pacer star Tyrese.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Haliburton's dad, dad goes on, what if what if he
says something Jannest hits him just I know you we
you don't want to think that way, but you have
to think that way because they're right. They're nose to
nose at one point, and Yannis is saying things to him,
and here's his dad like, I don't know how they allowed.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
This to happen.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Oh, he's probably saying, hey, Yiannis, you're an incredible competitor,
and I you know, you should be proud of what
you'd know. He's talking trash to Jannis but the players
they reacted with class. And Yannis said, look, you you
win with class, lose with class.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But this, what is this?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Then Tyree's Haliburton shouldn't be answering questions about his dad
after a game like that. Dad, it's not about you
hate to say.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This to you. Your son's the star, not you. Let
your son be the star, not.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You, Stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Of course, we
agree that that's the whole thing here is we have
so many of these dads and look, I'm a dad.
You know, my dad was a lot. My dad believed
in me, but my dad did not you know. I
(12:13):
think when I originally signed at Notre Dame, he spoke
at my press conference. In hindsight, that was uncomfortable after that,
and we had to talk about it at some point
during my year off. He was never in front of
the camera for me ever. Again, you know, you just
you want what's best for your kid, but you didn't
(12:36):
actually play, You didn't actually do shit. And that's what
a lot of these parents kind of run into. Right.
You can't live vicariously through them. You just got to
cheer for him, love him, I hug him and be
their biggest fan. But yeah, that was If I'm Tyrese Halbert,
I'm I'm embarrassing. But like that's been his being in Wisconsin.
I know that's been his dad his whole life. So obviously,
(12:57):
you don't do what he did. You don't step on
the court. You're not part of the team, you're not
part of the celebration. You definitely don't get in the
face of an MVP, even if the reality is Giannis
was awful down the stretch. Uh, he's got to live
with it. You get in his face, doesn't do anything.
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I say.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
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Speaker 2 (13:28):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
The word choke. I don't know why people are so
sensitive around this work. I'm gonna play for you two
sound bites from consecutive nights on Inside the NBA. Sam
played the second one first twenty nine. This is Charles
Barkley from two nights ago.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
This might be the worst game I've ever watched Ernie.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
I try not to have used the word quit or choked.
You can see I'm not very Southern music. Understand this
is quitting at his finest right here.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
And then this is Charles Brokley last night as they're
doing the highlights of the Bucks game.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Look at this.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
Milwaukee was up one to eighteen, one eleven with forty
seconds to go. Gary Trentz had a huge game, but
he's turned it over twice in the closing seconds. And
look at Tyrese Halliburton joke down one. Come on man,
now one.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't like using the word choke, but I would
go two, dad, come on, man.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
So that's two nights in a row that he's had
to qualify his language. I've never understood this. If that
Bucks performance last night isn't a choke, then remove it
from the lexicon. Like for whatever reason, in recent years,
people have been really uh, really sensitive and walking on
eggshells when it comes to athletes or teams choking. I've
(15:12):
never quite understood that. I was raised on a show
that calling athletes chokers was like a daily activity. All
of a sudden, nowadays people have to qualify their language.
What's going on here? Is it the pussification of America?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's for some reason. Saying somebody choked is like
saying that they're a worthless human being. Like that's actually
what's happened. It's so incredibly strange. Yeah, I don't know
if it's a yeah, it's like, that's such a harsh term.
You can't say it. The Gary Trent choked last night.
He fucking choked, Like there's nothing there's no other way
(15:49):
to say it, Like, and we want to say the
Bucks Gary Trent. He catches the ball in bounds, okay,
when they're up four, and he has a wide open layup,
and that he holds the ball without dribbling, tries to
pass the ball back to his point guard, get stolen,
and then when it's a one point game, it's passed him,
he's wide open, he drops it and it falls out
(16:10):
of bounds. Gary Trent Junior choked. And I don't think
even he would argue with that. There's no other way
to explain what he did.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, I saw you tweet about the Knicks uniforms last night,
and I'm glad you did. Sounds like you didn't like
the look of the uniforms. This is just just one example.
Dan Bayern and I were talking about this yesterday. This
is one example I think of Adam Silver like giving
in too much to his ADHD gen Z players. Do
(16:46):
we really need new uniforms every game? We need new
You can't wear the same uniform twice in consecutive games.
Do we need to have different colored courts on the
same I mean that the Warriors court for the last game,
you had to like look real extra hard to see
who the players were. More often than not, Doug, when
(17:08):
I tune into like I don't know ESPN Sports Center
or whatever, and I just come in midstream, I have
to like look two or three times to figure out
what teams are playing, and I usually can't decipher it
by looking at the players. I have to look down
at the graphic to see which one's which, and then
I have to decipher which one on the court is which.
(17:29):
I thought like brand recognition was a thing, was a
true and tried test of something. Why are we changing
uniforms every single game for every team?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well again, I think, look, they do it obviously to
sell more jerseys, right, I don't care midseason you're in
the playoffs. You're the New York Knicks. You're the New
York Knicks. I can even go Steven A. Smith, Yo,
the fucking New York Knicks. You wear the New York
(18:02):
Knicks fucking uniforms and nothing fucking else. It's the fucking playoffs.
Are you kidding me? No one sees the world this way.
I don't think it's Adam Silver's gen z. I think
it's people in marketing thinking, hey, we can make a
couple extra bucks doing it. You can. But just because
you're making a couple extra bucks wearing some fucking ugly
uniforms doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It doesn't.
(18:24):
This is where the NFL is just smarter. Do they
have some ugly uniforms that are alternatives, yes, But what
are they wear in the playoffs? They wear their traditional uniforms.
You're the New York Yicks. Wear your fucking traditional uniforms.
Stop with this bullshit. That was awful. That was awful,
crazy game, unbelievable nding. Okay, but you're the New York Knicks.
Wear your New York Knicks uniforms. Period.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Stop.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know what is significant is getting fined one hundred
thousand dollars. Maybe if you're Elon Musk, that's not that much.
Maybe if you own the Falcons that isn't much. But
any like normal paid public figure, one hundred thousand dollars
is a lot. Now. I looked up Obrick's salary. He's
(19:11):
gonna make one point six million this year. I had
no idea he made that much money. That's incredible. So
when I saw he was fined one hundred thousand dollars,
I'm like, whoa. And then I thinking, imagine in your
life having to give away they did this like one
sixth of your salary or maybe one twelfth, I don't
know because of something that your twenty one year old did.
(19:34):
Just imagine that and how pissed off you would be
at your twenty one year old because your twenty one
year old not only costs you one hundred thousand dollars,
but your twenty one year old thought it was cool
to post the indiscretion on social media.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, it's bad, but I mean, one hundred plous dollars
fine is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
It's a sixteenth of his salary. He's a one point
six you know, one hundred thousand, So yeah, that's if
someone takes a sixteenth of your salary for the full year,
that's a lot of money. One hundred thousand a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean again I I I think it's
a bullshit. Fine, I think it's way too much, way
too excessive. We are so oh my god, somebody did
something mean to Shador Standers. You know, the same thing
was done to uh, what's the kid from Iowa last year.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
It's happened to Cooper de jen it happened to Abdul Carter,
It's now happened to Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, did we find those guys? I mean, like, his
son's an idiot for fucking posting it right. Everything else
was like anonymous, it looks really really bad. I get it, okay,
but one hundred thousand and fine, it's like what the
fuck are we doing here? But again, it's all because
Shador Sander's like, oh my god, he's poor kid. He's
in his feelings over it, like stop it stop. This
(20:52):
is to go back to what you said previously, Jason,
this is the Pacific passification of America.
Speaker 11 (20:59):
So this is coming up out of your allowance. It's
coming out of your allowance, son.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You know, one hundred thousand dollars a lot of money,
and yeah, I mean, look, no one in the NFL
or associated with an NFL coach is ever going to
do it again, but that's not going to stop anybody
else from doing it. Look for the record, I hate
that shit. I've always hated the Baba Booie thing where
guys calling him Baba booey. That's fucking dumb. I like
(21:23):
Howard Stern calling in legit news organizations during times or crisis.
It's not funny. It's not and I don't think it's
particularly funny break calling a guy or whatever. But I'll
also tell you that one hundred thousand dollars is incredibly
excessive anything else.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So that then we have NBA uniform changes and the
word choke.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I think, I think our apologies for the word choker knowing,
especially when it becomes obvious. Do I think the word
choke is thrown around too much? I do, But the
way in which that thing went down, that was a choke,
and I'm okay with it. So to people who want
to change the English language and make it softer.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yh not, why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Something we played on the radio show, uh Jannis had
one of the more thoughtful UH, I guess you would
say measured responses I've ever seen from an athlete about
Haliburton's debt three minutes of Gold. But this was the
part that we could play on because we can, And
I don't think he doesn't strike me as a guy
(22:46):
who cusses a lot, so I think this might be
a one off.
Speaker 12 (22:49):
My thing I'll say is that I believe like being
humbled in victory. That's how I am. Now, this can
be a lot of people out there that are like, no,
when you when you win the game, go talk Sheath
and you know it's it's a green light for you
to be disrespectful towards somebody else.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Do you have the whole thing? Are you not gonna
play three mints?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
No? I just wanted to play the part that we
could play.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I agree. I totally agree like this idea that you
win and it's cool to talk shit like fucking win
with class, lose with class. I don't see it any
other way. I don't And there are always gonna be
people like, no, you win, you can talk your shit
like That's not how it actually works. That that means
you haven't been through it in real life. And for Milwaukee,
(23:35):
it's a gut wrenching winner lose, but the jumping up
in somebody's face when you win a game. And by
the way, for how Alberton, he made the two big buckets,
but the foul was a complete fucking phantom call that
he got an in one on. I mean, just a
ridiculously phantom call. Why couldn't play it for you? Because
we can't. That's it for the end the Modus Podcast.
(23:55):
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