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May 20, 2025 • 31 mins

Doug riffs about the conference finals of the NBA playoffs. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on Bill Belichick. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Kenyon Martin makes today's installment of "Because We Can".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. So the Conference Finals begins tonight, and you know,
it's interesting. I think a lot has been made of

(00:32):
quick turnaround between Game three and Game four that I
think Denver thinks that's the reason they lost the season. Meanwhile,
for Oklahoma City, they're quick turnaround as game seve into
Game one, and as we've seen in the past, game
one is the game that you are most likely to steal.
You got the six seed in Minnesota coming in taking
on the one seed in Oklahoma City. And I think

(00:54):
it's going to be a really interesting series because the
four stars on these four teams are all far younger,
lesser known, and trying to make a name for themselves.
And you know, when you have an Anthony Edwards, when
you have a shay Gilgess Alexander, they're players that are

(01:14):
really good. They're not considered great. Why are they not
consider great because they have done in the playoffs and
now they got a chance in the playoffs. But I mean,
the things we can guarantee the ratings won't be particularly good, right,
because no matter how talented Sga is, he's still not

(01:36):
a super known mainstream commodity. And Anthony Edwards is known.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
He's done a great job of building his brand, you know,
through the movie, the Sandler movie, and obviously through some
of his play in the playoffs, but he also plays
for the group for the Timberwolves. They haven't made it
thus far yet, haven't gone to a finals, haven't won acheampionship.
He's not that much of a household name. He has
his own shoe that's big, but there's still steps to

(02:07):
be made. And as we worked through the post Jordan era,
we had a lot of really talented players, Allen Iverson,
Tim Duncan Shack, eventually Kobe Bryant as well, right, Rashid Wallace,

(02:30):
Kevin Garnett. For a long time we were chasing that
next star, and Kobe became kind of the biggest of
the stars, one because of his five championships, two because
he's in LA and three well, he was really, really,
really good, but it took a while. We're not in
the post Lebron era yet, but as we set ourselves
up for the post Lebron era. He who wins a

(02:53):
couple of championships puts themselves in position they'll never There
will not be another Lebron. Will there be another die
Namic superstar like a Jordan Lebron. Sure, maybe it's in
five years, maybe it's in ten years. Maybe he's sitting
out there now. It doesn't feel like he's We have
one in the game. There will be one. But until
we get that one, you're searching for the next best thing,

(03:13):
and you gotta win series like this to be considered
anywhere close to being that thing.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
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Speaker 2 (03:27):
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Speaker 4 (03:34):
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Speaker 2 (03:35):
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previous version of Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports One Show.
Here's Bretty Quinn talking about the consideration that USC would
put an end to the Notre Dame rivalry game.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
No one's gonna dispute the argument that it's probably taking
a toll on their athletes, has probably taken a toll
on their program. They flew I think seventeen thousand miles
last year, the first year in the Big Ten. If
you can compaired that to twenty twenty three or twenty
twenty two, the PAC twelve flew more than any conference
in its existence because you can't bus as much to

(04:09):
many of the places, how hell spread out it is.
But they flew someone of the ballpark of teny eleven
thousand miles, so you're almost adding on to, you know,
a third of what they were originally flying now onto
their schedule. Now, Notre Dame is not to blame for that.
Southern Cow signed up to go to the Big Ten,

(04:31):
like we talked about the College Football Playoff after you know,
one year, trying to figure some things out. I think
they're trying to figure some things out and how to
make it work for Southern Cow because it is a
non conference game for them, you know, for Notre Dame
their perspective, they view it differently because it's been such
a historical rivalry and Notre Dame's historically been independent that

(04:52):
that's been one of the games that they look for
to every year, and they kind of we kind of
looked at it like, well, this is part of our schedule,
part of our if you will.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I just I don't see any way you come
up with that game. It's like, yeah, sorry, the rest
of your schedule change. You'll have to adjust. You'll have
to adjust. It's too big a thing, too much money
to be made. I feel like this is one of
those classic like, oh no, we're gonna leave. You know,
build this new stadium and the New England Patriots a

(05:22):
perfect model.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
I don't know if you guys know this.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
New England actually signed a deal to move to East
Hartford restlar Field, which is where Yukon plays. That was
initially intended to be the Patriots new stadium, and then
you know, they got a better deal. They got Patriot
Place built, they got their new stadium, and they never moved.
There'll be threats, but there's no way this game goes away.

(05:44):
It's just USC needs to make more money and this
is their leverage to do so that's what I believe.
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the forty nine.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Ers, Fred Warner. The Niners locked up Fred Warner, who
is a Hall of Famer in you know, he's one
of those Oh that's right, he's in on every play.
It feels like there's certain guys where you go. I
don't know if I'd spend a lot of money on
that position, middle linebacker. But Fred Warner, he's great, and
you know they had Patrick Willis. Luke Keikley is another

(06:17):
guy who got made famous by playing that position because
it felt like he was in on every tackle. And
Fred Warner is a wonderful player. And I don't know
how the Niners are affording all these players. It just
it feels like, I mean, Brandon Ayuk they overpaid for greatly.
They got him, and then Kittle got re up, brock

(06:37):
Perty just got paid. Trent Williams, you got Fred Warner here,
McCaffrey gets good coin man. You keep saying, you know
they have a fantasy football team. It feels like it's
like we're going to take that guy and that guy
and that guy and that guy. How do we afford him?
I don't know, but Fred Warner got paid.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I mean, they're going to kick the the text can
down the road as best they can. And what happens
when you sign a new deal is it frees up
money for you this year, not necessarisarily cash, but salary
cap money, and then you have to smartly place it
in future years in terms of money, but this will

(07:20):
probably be the last year, and they got to just
get creative with the guys that they have. It's been
done in terms of winning with a high priced quarterback,
with high priced players, but you got to be really smart,
got to be really on top of it, and got
to get a little bit lucky. I mean, Philadelphia signed
Jalen Hurts to a massive new deal. They still have
a great level of toeunt now. They drafted exceptionally well

(07:41):
as well, so you just can't miss on as many
of those guys. The likelihood is that the Niners don't
have enough in their reporting cast because I don't think
rock Perty is good enough to do it on his own.
But I'm willing to be proven wrong and we'll see.
But I think that paying guys and people wondering where

(08:03):
all the money's coming from understand that while the cash
comes out immediately, you have to be cash heavy in
terms of salary cap when you rework your deal or
sign a new deal that usually doesn't hit the cap
for another year. Here's Colin Cowherd earlier today on The
Herd on Fox Sports Radio talk about Bill Belichick.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
This is interesting, Carolina has sold out their season tickets
before they have played a game under Bill Belichick. So
it's the Dion effect. And I think what is fascinating
about Belichick. So I think if you put Belichick in
the SEC or the Big Ten, he'd get rolled. Because

(08:43):
I've always had this theory is that the key to
NFL coaching is just raw intelligence. Mostly smarter coaches win
because you pick the players and you can practice much longer.
College football is different. You need to be able to rect.
You got to have great energy. Intelligence to some degree

(09:04):
can be muted. And so I do think what saves
Bill is the acc If you look at their schedule
outside of the Clemson game, they can match up with anybody.
I mean, there's just w's everywhere in this thing. But
like Dion Sanders, and this is why I've supported Bill
Belichick and Jordan Hudson, Caroline's a basketball school, Colorado is

(09:25):
a nothing school. Social currency, attention is.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Your stock market.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
And I think North Carolina and Belichick, I've got them
as my third story today. I don't have The Carolina
tar Heels basketball program is my third story.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
He's right, and you know it's one of those things
where yeah, for me, this year, I thought, like Dan
Patrick asked me on his show, like, was any publicity
good publicity?

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
No, but what is bad publicity? Alicity? The fact we're losing.
It's not great, but it's not no what you know
did did were any crimes committed by my team? Did
any anything negative happen in the real world? Was it
just we didn't win enough basketball games? Do we do
the job academically? Do do we put a good product

(10:21):
on the floor? And yeah, usually good products will result
in more wins, But there are some other issues that
go with it. I just think it's super interesting on
how some people get a pass and some people do not.
You know, I don't get me wrong. The Belichick thing
is weird. She's twenty four, he's in his seventies. I

(10:44):
don't understand it. But we do know that Dion broke
up with his girlfriend at the end of year one,
and you know, he's doing a reality show which is
far more invasive even than what I do, and it
never became a real topic of conversation. Now, part of
this is the age disparity, part of this is her

(11:05):
involvement in all of his endeavors, but part of it
is also that we pick and choose what we want
to cover from some we don't want to cover from others.
That's what the Fox said.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And now it's your annoying.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, Jason, you easily find things to be annoyed by.
I may have a couple additions. I'm excited to hear
your list, though. Who do you got today?

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
The Wan Soo situation For those not familiar, so Wan
Soto signed a massive deal with the Mets. He returned
to the Yankee Stadium this past weekend, avoided the media
for the most part, turned down ESPN for their in
game conversation, and has been getting like a shit storm
of negativity from the tabloids in town. There was a

(12:13):
report that he flies private while the team flies commercial
or whatever, and I don't think that that was true.
Then there was another report that his family wanted the Yankees,
or his family wanted the Mets and he wanted the
Yankees and that the team is concerned about his attitude
or his enthusiasm for the job. Well, that played out

(12:36):
in real time yesterday as he tried to pimp a
home run to left field at Fenway, the ball bounced
off the wall and he jogged in for a single
off the wall. So this just buys into the narrative
that he's not hustling. On Sunday, there was a play
against the Yankees that he didn't hustle out either. So

(12:58):
the manager, Carlos Mendoza, who I just learned last week,
said this after the game.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
He thought he had it, you know, with a win
and all that, and in this ballparker anywhere, but in
particularly in this one with that wall right there, you
got to get out of the box.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
So yeah, we'll just cause that.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
We'll discuss that. When Soda was confronted afterwards, is what
he said. That's a couple of nights.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
You've had a couple of plays where you were slow
getting out of the box.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
So that's something you have.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
To be more aware of.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
No, I think bank hustle and very hard. If you
see it today, do you care Tell no, I don't
have to take a look at it. I'm hustling. So
I don't blame Won Soto. I don't blame the Mets.
I don't blame Fenway. I blame baseball. Pimping hard hit
balls is the way baseball is played now, and I

(13:52):
can't blame Won Soto for doing what just about every
player in the league does. We had that entire thing
a couple of weeks ago with the Braves Joey Kellanek
and then Ronald Acunia got involved. It's like, if you're
the new way to do things. And I was always
raised and when I coached, I coached my players this

(14:14):
run out of the box and case it doesn't clear
the fence. Major League Baseball has turned that on its head.
It's pimped the ball just in case it goes over
the fence so you look better. So I blame baseball
for this Wan Soto situation.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm I don't I blame money. You know, so funny
because Wan Soto was supposed to be this perfect player,
right and now all of a sudden he gets just
a crap ton of money. And congrats to Scott Boris,
right because Boris turned down the four hundred plus million

(14:51):
two years ago with the Nationals and there was a
time there when he was a padre where people were like, yeah,
I don't know if I ever get that again, and
then he see far exceeded that. But I just all
of it is a bad look. I don't think pipping
home runs has become the norm or whatever or accepted.

(15:14):
I still think that there's this there's a separation between
veteran players and frankly a lot of them older many
of them American born players, and Latin players, and younger
American born players in the stylistically, how you approach punch outs,
how you approach how you approach home runs as well.

(15:38):
But it's interesting that baseball annoys you. I don't think.
I don't think did pimping a home run is accepted baseball.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't watch as much on the day to day.
And maybe part of the fact you're angry is the
fact that the Dodgers suck right now. But that's simply
a different point. Okay, but let's move on. That's a good.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
One investigation talk. Caitlin Clark was forced to say something
yesterday that I know she doesn't believe. So I'm guessing
the WNBA, along with their talking points that we can't
criticize Caitlin Clark anymore. They sent the it was like
a reply all to those notes saying all of us

(16:22):
are going to be in support of the investigation, and
then just say a bunch of platitudes about race and
discrimination not being acceptable in society. Nothing's going to come
with the investigation, but we need everyone to be on
the same page here.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
There's no place for that in our game. There's no
place for that in society. And you know, certainly we
want every person that comes into our arena, whether player, weather, fan,
to have a great experience. So I appreciate the league
doing that. I appreciate you know, the Fever organization has
been the forefront of that since you know, really day
one on what they're doing. So you know, hopefully the
investigation will leave that up to them to find anything
and take the proper action if so.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
So, doug On Clark's against racism and against discrimination.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, this is breaking, this is big. And I bet
she's anti cancer too.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, and she's for the investigation. All of this are
just like empty calories, empty calories. Investigation into your own
fan base being racist.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, I got one today, who who somebody who follows
me or whatever. It was like, you don't even understand
Indiana is the birthplace of the KKK. And my response is,
do you really think a member of the KKK is
going to go to a Thunder game? Excuse me, go
to a Fever game on a Saturday afternoon and wait

(17:43):
till the one moment and and make racial noises or
whatever like? Is that really? Do we really think that's that?
And then no one's going to pick it up and
point it out. It's just beyond bizarre where people go
with this, but hey, we're all in support of it.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Did you know that is.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
That running on the bottom line, by the way at ESPN,
that Caitlin Clark is against racism?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, it's the second story, so yeah, it's definitely up there.
They want everyone to know that. So this Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese thing has brought about opinions from every
corner of the universe. Yes, and I've got three bits
of sound here as we wrap up this portion of

(18:31):
the podcast that are specific to Angel Reefs and Caitlin Clark.
R G three came out and said that it's obvious
watching the game that Angel Reeves hates Caitlin Clark. So
then Ryan Clark did what he does, and he turned
it into a racial thing.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
When our r G three jumps on to the hate
train or to the angry train, and now follows along
with what we saw from Keith Oberman, what we saw
from the portinoy as they poured on to aingreur Reaes
to make her the villain and Caitlin Clark's heroic or
hero story. The one thing we know about RG three

(19:20):
is he's not having conversations at his home about what
black women have to endure in this country, about what
young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had
to deal with. So there's no need to pin those
two against each other and paint them based on stereotypical tropes.
And I think this is what I like RG three

(19:41):
to know that no matter how much he continues to
echo the micro aggressions of racist he'll be no less
black than me.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I mean to me, that's like a walk off shot.
You could agree with that or not, but that is
an articulate scalpel of someone's character. And so RG three
went on his social media right away. He needed to
do an emergency post Doug to address Ryan Clark.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
Ryan Clark personally attacking me and my family because he
disagreed with my sports opinion is a bad look for ESPN.
It's cowardly, it's spineless, and it's weak. Ryan Clark personally
attacking me and my family personally because he disagreed with

(20:32):
my sports opinion is a bad look for him as
a man.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I hope you get to help you need, brother. I
think what's the annoying part about this is I don't
root for either of these guys in this situation. I
don't know, neither of them look great. But I will
say this, RGIE three has a mother, and I think
I read along the way that he has a sister.
So it does seem a little below the belt to

(20:58):
go after the guy for having a white wife.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know. When here's there's a
there's there's some things culturally that are interesting.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I'm Jewish, so I can't relate necessarily. I can't relate
to what the what the black community thinks of marrying
within your race. I've heard, I've been told, and it's
pretty obvious based upon Ryan Clark's comments, that they're the
feelings of some right that you And this goes back
to I don't know if you remember the Spike Lee

(21:31):
movie Do the Right Thing, Right, which is I think
that was that was the one that addressed this, or
maybe there was a there's a different God there's a
different Spike Lee movie that that talked about, you know,
like being with uh it was about black women and
and how they're treated by black men and whatever. Which
movie was that real quick while recording, Oh it was

(21:52):
Jungle Fever. Yes, Jungle Fever was the right So this
is this is very much a black discussion, but like
being Jewish, like you are sort of pressured by your
family to marry somebody Jewish, like, oh is she you
need to meet a nice Jewish girl?

Speaker 8 (22:09):
And so.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I I sort of get it. But it's like it'd
be one thing if this is the first time that
Ryan Clark had had gone on the on the race card,
But that's that's really his joker in the deck that
he feels like is a wild card he can play
with any hand. That's how it feels. And I don't know,

(22:34):
I just I think they both look clownishly terrible. RG
three likes to volley between being sarcastic and funny and
uh and kind of defensive and using his own experiences
like he was somehow wronged by different people or whatever,

(22:55):
whereas Ryan Clark is just very, very differ to the
point of I think you could call him militant, and
he's also been elevated, and I think some of his
elevation at ESPN and then what inside the NFL is
based upon talent. It's not that he lacks talent. He

(23:18):
clearly gets across what he wants to say, as you
pointed out, but it's kind of clouded by things like this.
I don't know. This whole thing just annoys the shit
out of me. It's literally the most woke league in
all of sports, and I like, I would agree with
people who are progressive thinking and they hate the term woke,

(23:41):
and I think that woke oftentimes does not apply to
people who simply have, you know, some ideals that are
not based upon the nineteen fifties, right. Not everything that
is in the left leaning is woke. Some of it
is just, hey, let's progress to something in the future.
But the w NBA is a woke league. The WNBA

(24:02):
is one of those one of those just odd conglomerates.
Of lesbian and straight women, young and old, black and white,
some international as well, and kind of trying to figure
stuff out. But like, the one thing that we can
definitely say is this league has had to be the
most understanding of racial and sexual orientations being different than

(24:32):
societal's norms for the last fifty years, right, I don't
think anybody would argue with that. So this idea that
that we're viewing it from a racist lens or even
the and you and I both hate this, the cow
towing to Paige Becker's has done it, and Kaitlyn Clark
let me, Kaitlyn Clark do it, like, Hey, I wouldn't
be here for without black women, like you wouldn't be

(24:54):
out there without white women either, or or black men
or white like what. It's just so confusing, And then
the fact that you have all these other people hopping
onto it and now they start their own like inner
race wars. I don't even think there's a contender for annoying,
Like we took a a foul which wasn't even a

(25:16):
hard foul in the first game where somebody overreacted to it.
With a player who annoys the shit out of everybody,
She's just annoying, Like, look, women's basketball is not good
enough to create this much drama. I'm just sorry. It's
just fucking not.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
It's just not.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And Angel Reese is a nice talented players. They said
she has a value to a team people that everyone
hates on the other team and plays hard and gets rebounds,
gets ex possessions.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's a value.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
It's a value.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But it's one of the kids I have college kids
in a high school kid, and I don't know if
this is expression is still relevant, but one of the
ones i'd like is they go, hey, dad, it's not
that deep, Like we're making this thing into World War three.
It's not that deep. Angel Reese is fucking annoying. And

(26:15):
she's probably annoyed by the fact that Caitlin Clark has
completely leapt past her to being the most popular successful
women's basketba player, maybe women's athlete that we have in
the country right now, and despite the fact that she's
making ten x of what equal talented women's players were

(26:38):
making even five years ago, she's jealous of somebody who's
making more than her, gets more attention than her, gets
more love than her, and can't seem to figure out
why we're making about things that it's not about and
that's why this is kind of a pathetic discussion.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
So did you have something they wanted to add to
annoying here?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Well, that one was that was kind of that was
just I'm just annoyed by the fact that everybody wants
to parachute in on something and then make it about
something racist and make it like, I'm annoyed that people
think that because and I don't know if this is true,
the KKK was formed in Indiana, that suddenly anything that's
racist or presumed to be racist that comes has to

(27:21):
be true and it has to be racist because in
the state of Indiana, Like, Okay, I don't really know
what to do with that.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know, we don't we talk about the pie charts.
So the pie chart that you and I always talk
about is always of everything that makes Caitlin Clark popular.
There probably is that sliver of racism that there's a
sliver right of the pie that is just people that

(27:49):
are racists, that just prefer white people to black people.
And then you take the pie chart of what pisses
people off about the attention Caitlin Clark gets and that
sliver of a pie of She's a straight white woman
in a largely black sport. That is a sliver of

(28:10):
the pie as well. It's just I think how how
much of a sliver or how much of a piece
of that pie. I think Ryan Clark probably thinks it's
about half or three quarters of the pie.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Uh yeah, yeah, I'm with you either way.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
It's a nice Why are we doing this because we can?
They Hall of Famer Cheryl Sloops and Kenyan Martin, they
had a very important conversation coming off of this Angel Reese.

(28:48):
Remember when Angel Reese did the press conference and basically
said it was a basketball player. The referees got it right.
Moving on, that has been talked about as well. It
was she was she too much, too much attitude? So
Kenyan Martin and chow Swoop said this exchange on guil
Arenas's podcast.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
I don't think it's fair that black women are held
to one standard. This is how we're supposed to be,
how we're supposed to approach everything, how we're supposed to respond,
how we're supposed to answer, and if we don't answer
the way they think we should, then we're labeled as
we got attitude or we're aggressive like that one.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
I don't agree.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
The crew of is in.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
A myth, but it's a thing, right either way, either way, right.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
It's a thing because people make it a thing.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I take my mother, black woman, right.

Speaker 10 (29:44):
Fit the same ship, right, and I tell her the
same thing, like, you can't react like that the everything
and everybody.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
You can't why. You can't why.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
A black woman because you exactly which is wrong.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
You can't react attitude. My mom just got to listen.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
She in the hospital, have an open heart, serves and
a fucking giving these people attitude.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
You just got your goddamn chess cut open.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
You're in a giving these fucking people attitude. That's a
it's a confusing one, but we can play it for
you because we can. I'll only point out, uh, Cheryl
Soups's she's just again could have been on your annoying
because she thinks that the way in which she talks

(30:32):
and handles things, the pushback is because she's a black woman,
and it literally has so little to do with it. It's
not even it's just again, it's just not even sort
of worthy of discussion, like anyone who has that sort
of words. These the way in which She presents her

(30:54):
opinions and arguments to lack of any sort of education
in it, not even knowing you know, how old Caitlin
Clark was, going back to last year, all these different things.
It's just annoying, but whatever, Why could we play it
for you? Because we can't. That's it for the end
of the Modus podcast. Check out the radio show every
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