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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up, Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't know if you guys have been tracking this,
but the Colorado ROCKI has won a game. Yeah, yeah,
they won a game. They're first since May twenty third. Yeah,
that's pretty bad, right, they won three games, four games.
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Becuse me in the entire month of May. For they're
ten and fifty right now, ten and fifty. And look,
I understand that you're sitting there. You start doing percentages,
You're like, hey, well, you guys were four and twenty eight.
The difference in college basketball and in Major League baseball is,
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presumably you can change your fortunes year to year by
changing your teams. We just had our first practice of
the day. We returned six guys from last year. That
means we have I think seven new weies, seven new
and so far so new energy, different talent, different style.
But you can kind of flip your roster. Whereas baseball
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it's like it's hard, you know, because you have to
you have to build, and you either have to go
in the free agent market and overpay for guys. And
remember they're still in Colorado, so you're limited by how
quickly you can turn around. You're limited by your No
matter what you do, the pitchers aren't going to be
as good as they are elsewhere. And pictures don't want
to pitch there. Hitters want to hit there. Hey, but
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those games are much longer, the field is gigantic. You
have to be more athletic anyway. In the new era
of baseball, then you have to be really athletic to
cover that big old field. I just like, do we
remember when the last time? Wasn't that long ago? Here's
a question to Jason Stewart, when was the last time
the Colorado Rockies were good?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I think it was like twenty eighteen or something. Twenty
eighteen they were over five hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Isn't that crazy? I mean we're talking about years upon
years upon years of futility. I mean, go look at
Colorado Rockies and you know, historically the last two years
they lost over one hundred games. The year before that
they lost ninety four, year before that they lost eighty seven.
And Jason is right, this is twenty eighteen, they won
ninety one games, ninety one games, but losing one hundred
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two consecutive years, and obviously very likely to lose one
hundred this year three consecutive years as well as ninety
four the year before that. Yikes, yikes. And obviously, being
an Angel fan, you've seen the bottomy see Heart and
the Angels have had show he Tani and Mike Trold
to imagine not having those two guys and being this terrible.
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I think baseball is really interesting. I know that regionally
is where you get the most people that care the most,
and of course you have some region of the country,
there's certain big baseball towns, and you know it. Only
thing matters for the health of the sport really is
is New York and LA are New York and LA good?
And they are. But this is like the opposite of
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the NBA, where the NBA, the numbers, the TV ratings
may not totally reflect it, but the league is flourishing
because you can win in a smaller sized market, whereas
in Major League Baseball, God, it appears like you cannot,
you know, and then obviously you get to you're not
that bad unless you're that consecutively bad, unless you're not
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well managed, talent and experienced a void and then you
we had a lot of bad luck. And if you're
a Rockies fan out there and you're listening to me,
you're like, yeah, all those things and we suck all right.
Maybe even mismanaged or maybe they manage you to try
and get you to be bad, to try and climb
the mountain back, because it obviously worked for the Astros,
It's worked for several other teams, but ten and fifty
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is just so unconstantly difficult to comprehend. I mean, look,
the difference again here is in another one in college basketball.
In college basketball, all you got to do is get
to your conference tournament and you can win four games
and play for the Incate Tournament. Major League Baseball, they're
essentially done already, and we just hit you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
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Speaker 2 (04:46):
Let's get to the Foxes and now I say every
day this time in the Bonus podcast we played for
your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.
Here's the far Arrton and Jonas Dooks talking about the
Cleveland Browns quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I cannot rest logic on the idea that a fifth
rounder is going to outperform and play and get enough
time and enough reps to outperform the third rounder. The
third rounder is going to be given the reps, the
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backup is going to be given the reps, and the
starter is going to get the lion's share of the reps.
So I don't see how the odd man out is
the fifth round pick. They're going to have to play
him because he's the oh he's he's the door Sanders,
and the situation is what it is. But it's got
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to be considered a long shot for him to be
able to make this meteoric rise up the depth chart
to being the starting quarterback in Cleveland like that, to me,
it's a pipe dream if I'm being totally honest.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
And if you just take a step back and look
at it, it all goes back to ground zero, which
is everybody's been putting a tough spot. So Kevin Stefanski's
been putting in a tough spot, Joe Flacco has been
put in a tough spot, Kenny Pickett's been putting a
tough spot. Shardor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel have been putting
a tough spot, and they've all been put in a
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tough spot because Deshaun Watson put everybody in a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah. I don't know how much I think Dylan Gabriel
is putting a tough spot. Can he Pickett a little bit?
Doesn't really matter because he's had his day to shine
in the sun. Joe Flacco has not. He can do
whatever he's retired before. He'll be fine. But it is
the sign of a strangely of not poorly laid out
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plan to have two rookies and to have shad Or
breathing down the neck of a guy who hasn't taken
a snap yet. It's just the whole thing is just odd.
Here's Dan Patrick and Charles Barkley talking about the future
for Charles at the ESPN version of Inside the NBA.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Are you unemployed right now?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
No?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
I signed a deal last week.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Then okay, when do you start working with ESPN.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Next year when the season starts?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Okay, So there's nothing going on from now until the
start of next season.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
No, you know, I took my time trying to figure out.
My big thing was the work schedule, and I got together.
I spent working on it for like two months, and
I got together with T and T last week and
I signed a deal.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So how many days a week are you going to
work at the mother Ship?
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, you know it's I don't even think they know
the exact schedule, to be honest with you, but.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You better know the exact schedule.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Well, I'm gonna trust trust them, you know, cause that's
been my biggest concern. Yeah, So, like I said, I
didn't officially assign it to last week. I said I'd
worked for two more years and I that's what I
agreed to, and I'm gonna have to trust them. But
I listen, you know, if they start trying to work
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me too much between ESPN TNT, I'm just gonna walk
home home, you know, because listen, I actually have seven
years left on my contract. I're like, yeah, there's no
way I'm working seven years, I says. You know, I'm
gonna be a good soldier for Kenny, Ernie and Shaq
and the people I work with, because I love the
people I work with, especially behind the scenes, I said,
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but the best I can do is two years.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Charles has said he's retiring previously, and there's so much unknown. Today.
ESPN came out and said they we're not doing anything
to the Turner Show. They can, They'll do whatever they want.
We're just gonna sub license it and run it on air.
But it's going to be fascinating to see what that
show looks like, how it all works together. Can they
use highlights? What type of partnership is it MC gary
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for next year. Here's Chris Persar talking about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
I am oning this show because of coaching analysis, all right, yes,
so I have to be objective in what I see
as I predict this series, and because.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Of that, I've been fretting this pick for a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
But then my buddy, the great Nick right.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Oh showed me a couple of weeks ago there's a
loophole no in the byloss.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
This is I didn't know it was admissible. I didn't
know it was legal, but Nick showed me you can
actually pick one team and root for the other. I
am picking the Oklahoma City Thunder in six games.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
What I am.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Rooting no.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
For because with all my.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Heart and soul, in the words of Nick right I
hope I'm wrong. Because I bleed, who not down and work?
What's your going down?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I love the build up to it, the crescendo
to it. I actually just do think it works. You
can if you're if if we're getting kind of graded
on our picks and you think Olomom City is gonna win,
give victim, and you can also say at the same time, man,
I love the way Indiana plays. I would love for
it to be competitive, love for them to win. I
just don't think they will. I don't flying fault with
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that argument. That's what the Fox.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Said the Safety. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Let's find out Who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's your annoy.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Hey, Doug Lebron James was on his mind that game podcast.
He said something interesting about youth sports and youth sports parents,
and I think you could relate to it very much.
This is what he said.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Ran track and field as well, and we were like
super duper young. You know, we played football all the
way American football all the way through high school. We
didn't just cap it at one thing. He just did
one thing all year round. And I think a lot
of kids burn They burned out you just telling them, dude,
just okay, I'm gonna just do this one all year round.
I'm just playing basketball, or just play volleyball, or just
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play soccer all year round. You burn out, you know,
at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, you know, because
you've just been doing it. Our young Thirene thirteen, they starts,
you know, they done. I don't even want to play
no more.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I mean, that does happen. It does happen. It's
a hard one when you're coaching kids in youth sports
because they don't really have a chance unless they go
all in on their sport. But sometimes they want to
go all in on sports they're not not good at,
or they're not that passionate about, or they're not going
to be tall enough for or whatever, and sometimes you
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want to use sports just to keep them moving, keep
them doing something, keep them off the streets, keep from
hanging out. I understand, like I didn't specialize until I
got to high school after my freshman year, but I
mean the specialization thing at like ten is a little
bit much specialization thing once you get into middle school.
I think it's probably about right.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But to me, it's like this this toxic cycle. Youth
parents are dumb. Youth parents think that endless amounts of
hours training at something is going to make their son
or daughter a pro. You and I both know the
reality of this. The talent always rises to the top.
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It doesn't matter how many games Lebron James played a
basketball coming up, he was going to be one of
the great NBA players ever, that's what And nobody on
the youth sports level is going to tell the parents that,
because they're the ones that are paying the fees. As
an AAU coach, would you ever set somebody aside and
be like, you know what, your kid's got no future
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in the game, and I don't want to continue to
make her to take your money. No, because you're in
the business.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well again, that's if you want to have a competitive team,
you have to he can't have just guys that are
players that you know, you just can't. It's just too hard,
you know. You can't have people that just well I'll
just I'll just buy my way on to the best team. Like, no,
the kids don't respect it. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I agree with you, but I'm saying that there there
isn't any common sense being spoken to these charts. So
they're blind to begin with, to their sons or their
daughters athletic ability. And then nobody in the system is
going to tell them that because they're they're collecting their checks.
So it's like Lebron James saying that these these kids
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that are just doing one thing year round is burning
them out. No, no, no, their parents are burning them out.
Their parents' decisions are burning them out, and their parents
aren't checked by anybody giving them any real information. Sure,
So that's the annoying part of this for me. There's
no checks and balances within the within the system unless
you're listening to me on this podcast right now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, there isn't. And and there are people that will
tell people the kind of the truth. And a little
bit of it is the weeding out system where you know,
the higher level that you play, you know they have
different levels of au you know, some called platinum than
gold and silver then bronze. You know, your kid's not
playing in platinum when you get to eighth grade, like, yeah,
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might not unless they grow late and once they get
you know, you can ask your high school coach usually
be pretty honest with you. But you're right, it is
it's a it's a it can be a it can
be an as show. Uh what else?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Steelers have felt compelled to send out an email to
their to their season ticket holders. I guess Mason Rudolph
and a couple of Steeler alum went to the Trump
rally last week, and I guess the Steelers were getting
enough heat and it rose to a certain level where
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their director of pr had to send out an email
to ticket holder saying, we appreciate you taking the time
to share your thoughts with us as valued fans. Your
voice is an essential part of what makes Steelers community
and a fan base so strong. However, we understand that
a recent rally in Pittsburgh has generated a range of
reactions from our fan base. Our alumni and current players
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make their own individual decisions that reflect their own views,
and they do not necessarily represent the view of the
entire Steelers organization. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. What
annoys me about this is that the Steelers felt compelled
to actually send that email that we're at a time
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when when somebody takes the time out of their day
to email the team that they give uh what tens
of thousands of dollars to a year to just watch
them play a game on a field to complain about
their players association with the current president of the United States.
Imagine being that much of a loser that you type
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out that email.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I can't imagine. I can't imagine. This is akin to
It's not the same, but similar to the idea of
putting up some randos tweet on a broadcast TV show
like they don't matter. If somebody takes the time to
write a letter or to make a call to the
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Pittsburgh Steelers and you want to call him back, call
him back, if you want to send him an email back,
send himn email back. But validating their thoughts when and look,
I didn't vote for President Trump and either of the
last three elections, I don't believe and you know, there
it has been proven in every court case that the
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election wasn't rigged. I don't think there's lots of things
he does which you should be able to do to
be president United States. But you know what, he was
voted as president United States and you're allowed to go
support the president United States that you're allowed to do that.
So validating somebody's thoughts on it, it just to me
creates more of a problem than you had to begin with.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Who else have you been tracking the Raphael Delvert Raphael
Devers situation? This year, they went out and signed a
free agent third baseman and they told him that they
wanted him to DH in spring training, and Rafael Dever said,
I play third base. So he spent the first eight
years of his career point third base, told the Red Sox,
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I play third base. That's what I do. I don't
I don't, I don't DH. So the fact that they
pay him, I think it's a three. He's in the
middle of a three hundred and eleven million dollar contract.
For whatever reason, that wasn't persuasive enough to do whatever
it takes to win, And in my opinion, Devers answered,
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every single turn should have been whatever it takes to win.
I'm willing to do that. So then he starts dhing,
whether his agent compelled him to do it or he
just started doing it, and he starts raking the ball.
He's having a really good year at the plate, and
then their their first baseman goes down. They got a
bunch of prospects in the miners that are hitting the
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shit out of the ball, and they'd love to bring
one of them up, in particular to be a DH
They asked Raphael Devers if he if he will play base,
and he said no. I just I don't know how
he gets away with this. I looked at his age up.
He's like a late millennial. He's not even gen Z.
This is what gen Z people do. But in sports,
as a coach, how many times could you go back
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to a player and beg him to do something different
to benefit the team?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Doug, I mean, I don't think you'd ever do it.
And he's also like six foot two thirty five, right,
he's twenty eight years old. He should be in his
athletic prime. The die was cast the first time you
acquiesced to what he wanted. But it's that's one of
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the weirdest situations I've ever heard of where a guy's like, Nah,
you have a person that he's been going down. I
could do it. Nah, don't want to do it. Okay,
let's stick him out there. And by the way, he uh,
he had a home run last night and there's seven
six loss to my angels. But it's a weird one
and it's annoying.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
So you parents ruining their kids, Yeah, the Steeler situation
and Ralpha al dvers I.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Think in terms of annoying that both the parents ruining
their kids in the Steelers situation are unique in there
and they're definitely annoying. I'm gonna say the Steelers thing
is the most annoying. This isn't some you know, some
like seventh part political party where you're like, they believe
in sadomascanism or they believe in, you know whatever, bowing
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to aliens. This is the president of the United States.
You're allowed to go to a rally and if somebody
doesn't like it, you can communicate with them. But communicating
to an entire fan base just makes you seem so
just makes you seem so like weenies, and for that
you're annoying.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
All you quote tweet this, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce,
we're talking about something that you very much agree with.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Jeroble longhead to no might split the pick or behind
his back of then Europe coming down and you don't
know which way you're picking.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
If you pick this way, be on your head.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh god, damn, who is that?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Did he come down here? Do your ass up?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Their swinging his ship looking like rock.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
He called a call out in his fan you know
what they.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Was called it.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
He'd throw a full court belts pass and that should
go through like lane right in timm your head to
let him muffle up man.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
His bag of working, lazy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Bag work is crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, I love Monagobli.
I've said I think he's the most influential UH foreign
player to come to the United States. I guess you
could probably say Steve Nash because he won two MVPs
and he was born in South Africa and raised in Canada.
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But you know, in terms of now playing in college,
think about he won a European Championship, he won NBA Championships,
He won a World Championship and a gold medal and
the World Championship a gold medal with Argentina. Never done before,
probably never done since he was amazing. Why can't play
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I'm Doug Gottlieb