June 19, 2025 • 24 mins
Doug shares what bothers him most about an article written about Caitlin Clark. Doug reacts to Rob Parker's take about Shedeur Sanders. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Nick Young makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports RADI. Oh, welcome, welcome, Hey,
welcome in. How you doing. I saw an article when
I woke up today and I thought it was perfect
(00:32):
for something that Jay Stu and I have discussed oftentimes
some on air, but a lot of it is off air.
And so I went to Yahoo, right, just open up Yahoo,
and they have something called The Spun by Athlon Sports
and there's a gentleman I'm thinking by the name of
Andrew Holleran who wrote an article. The article is titled
(00:57):
and I understand that authors don't write headlines. I don't
don't know if that's the case on these type of
kind of hybrid thrown together whatever things. There's a growing
push for Kaitlin Clark to leave the WNBA that originally
appeared on the Spun Okay Spun, and I was thinking
to myself, Wow, I didn't know this right that there's
(01:22):
a real discussion there over Caitlin Clark leaving the WNBA.
What would she leave the WNBA for? And it goes
in a little bit to who she is and how
there's a there was a kerfuffle on the court with
Marina Maybray, how she was hitting the eye by J. C. Sheldon,
(01:43):
it's a former rival. And then it goes into what
I think is the absolute positive worst thing ever in
the history of the media. It's one thing to aggregate
stories somebody else the work. You write a headline, you
write your own commentary, and then really what you do
(02:04):
is you create a link to somebody who actually did
all the work. That's one thing. But to aggregate other
people's Twitter feeds that don't matter to any fucking human
being outside of that person and creating some false narrative
is awful. That's not journalism. They don't fucking matter. And
here's what I mean in the article. One fan added,
(02:25):
Caitlin Clark should leave the WNBA. She should do much
better for herself. Another fan added, Kaitlin Clark should leave
the league join whatever league there is out there. Say
FU to the WNBA. No one cares about this league.
They only tune in to watch Caitlin Clark and they
will do wherever she plays. Now, look, there is a
certain like, yeah, I mean, she is the biggest straw
(02:48):
in the league. But much like Lebron, much like Jordan,
much like whomever Magice Johnson, Larry Bird who saved the NBA.
Let's not kid ourselves. You do need a league, you
do need substance and the legitimate of the WNBA. But
the point is that the only people who are suggesting
this are some random fan who doesn't know fucking shit
about shit. There's no growing movement. There's people on Twitter. Hey,
(03:15):
by the way, Okay, if I take Twitter or what
appears in my feed as reality, Okay, somehow over the
last week there's Iranian news that has gotten into, uh
into my feed? Anybody else have this? Twitter's like Iranian
(03:35):
slanted news. Now, I don't need to tell you just
because I'm Jewish, also because I have a brain that
I'm not supporting Iran in the Iran Israel conflict. But
even dumber yet is the false narratives news. And I
saw one where it's literally AI of a jet flying
(03:56):
around and you know, bullets whizzing at it, and they're like,
there's the we have thirty five that was shot down.
It's total and complete and utter bullshit. But we have
to stop this. And Yahoo again and they put it
off on some athlon sports thing called the spun and
somebody pretends to be There's no growing fucking movement. The
(04:22):
only growing movement is that people are actually watching the
WNBA more because of Caitlin Clark, and the sport is
growing in leaps and blowns because of Caitlin Clark. And
is she the biggest wrong in the league. Yes, But
does she need a league for legitimacy?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And now look if there was a group of WNBA
or former wn players or agents that are like, hey, look,
you know, she could just go overseas and play, but
she wouldn't be the same draw. But again, there are
leverage points there. This is more and Jason, you and
I have talked about it at nauseam, which is that's
(05:02):
not how it's done. Those people don't matter. And this
is what Elon Musk did by eliminating the verified checks.
If you don't have a check by your name back
in the day or a couple of years ago, then
your opinion doesn't matter, period stop, period stop. And I
don't know what it's going to take, what it's going
(05:24):
to take for people to for people to realize that
the spun, which purports itself as something like that reports
us something like news and really it's just aggregating other
(05:45):
people's Twitter handles.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The Fox Says and Now every did at this time
with The Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Podcast, to
play for you a portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One. Uh, this is
Dan Patrick talk about the new Lakers ownership group.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You got all these different things that are going on
to try to prevent owners from buying a championship here.
And while he has the money the resources there, it'll
be different in what he does now. He could give
the Lakers the same edge that Golden State had. They
spent money. They spent their money buying a dynasty, building
(06:43):
a dynasty. But you're you're investing heavily, maybe in scouting
and analytics. You're still gonna have stars. The Lakers always
have stars. But this is an NBA era defined by
luxury taxes and second aprons, and a deep pocketed owner
doesn't have the same impact. But ten billion dollars for
(07:04):
the Lakers. While I was surprised at the number, I
was probably more surprised that they were sold. And you know,
with what Mark has done with the Dodgers, which has
been an unbelievable blueprint of we have the money, we'll spend,
we'll spend wisely. We get the right people, we get
our kind of player, we got our kind of manager.
(07:25):
They're going to refurbish Dodger Stadium, so they're doing all
the right things to build an infrastructure. And I think
that's the important part of this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, again, Dan's not wrong, but I do think, and
we started the show talking about this, we're just not
We're looking at this so much about championships and winning
and legacy and et cetera. When again, I love this
(07:56):
expression that kids use these days, it's not that deep.
I remember when Michael Jordan's sold sold a majority steak
in the Hornets. Okay, there are people who said, well,
he's doing it because he needs the money. When Mark
Cuban sold his steak in the Mavericks, people wonder why,
(08:18):
then you see Genie bus and I think the answer
is really really simple. As much as it feels like
the you know, the value of these franchises will never
go down and continue to explode. My guess is that
(08:38):
they feel like the margin between what you're spending and
what you're making is going to shrink, and now's the
time to cash in your chips because they see the
three hundred million dollar plus contracts coming, they see all
the taxes coming, they see the cost of doing business
(09:00):
and how it's only going up, and they also see
the spike in the values. This is nothing other than
selling high after buying low. That that's all it is.
I mean, ask yourself, there's we again. We have tunnel
vision where like wow, you know the Lakers and this
and that, Like the Lakers, the Celtics, the Mavericks, the
Hornets have all been sold in the last year. What
(09:23):
does that tell you? That tells you that the sense
is from really smart business people that values are at
an all time high and they're probably inflated, and whether
or not they come down doesn't matter because right now
the cost of doing business is way higher than before
and it just doesn't make any sense when you can
cash in your tips. And if you're the bus family,
(09:46):
you know, if you net out eight billion dollars, nobody's
family's ever working again, and oh yeah, by the way,
you carve out a couple you know, six months a
year where you're still doing your thing. Is the even
though you're you know, it's you're the king of a
banana republic. It just that's what's really going on here.
(10:09):
That's what's really going on here. Here is Rob Parker
talking about the Browns and Stuart Sanders.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If I'm the Browns and I'm seeing this going on,
I'm gonna have to pull the plug on the chador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He should be cut immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'm not serious, but I'm serious, and I want to
say this. Backup quarterbacks, fifth round picks should be seen,
not sighted. It's the worst thing you can do.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
That's not that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You know, obviously I'm playing about being cut, but that
is not what you want. Because once you become a
distraction and you start doing stuff, that's when it's easier
for people to say, do we really want this? This
is not came to Cleveland. People make mistakes. I'm not
saying he's got to be a perfect but this is
not what you want. This is just don't make yourself
(10:59):
a distraction when you're not in the plans for an organization,
and that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I think, I think it's just a bad look.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, you know again, I'm not gonna sit here and
tell you I haven't sped. Matter of fact, I got
pulled over for speeding sixty eight to fifty five. Just
going back to yesterday. There's one, the fact that it's excessive.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Two.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know what happens is when you when you have
crazy expensive cars, crazy expensive watches, crazy expensive jewelry, you're
painting an image of entitlement to everyone around you. Then
you get pulled over speeding. So, in the grand scheme
of things, is it a big deal? Yeah? Yeah, it's
(11:43):
going way too don't it's way too fast. There's no
one on earth that says on one's not accessive. If
you go eighty two and a fifty five, if it's
on an interstate or whatever, it's nobody there that's not crazy.
You get above ninety and everybody's like, all right, well lot,
get about one hundred. Now we're talking ridiculous. So it
(12:05):
tracks it. It's one of those actions more so than words,
and his actions continue to to look like somebody who's
more on the end is incident title. That's really what
it comes out to. Here's Colin Cowherd talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
There's a lot of similarities between Michael Jordan and Caitlin Clark.
Think about this. So both were very popular in college
before Michael got to the Bulls, they were awful twenty
seven and fifty five. First year in, he improved him
by eleven games. They made the playoffs. They still weren't great,
but he got him into the playoffs. Pre Kaitlyn Clark
fever awful by the end of year one, though for Michael,
we were thinking, is this guy a top three player
(12:44):
in the league By the end of last year outside
of Asia Wilson, We're thinking, is Kaitlyn a top three
player in the league?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Year three?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Michael MVP? Year two for Caitlin, hopefully she doesn't get hurt,
will she be an MVP? These are very similar players.
Both sold a ton of merchandise. We fell in love
with him and knew and Michael's at North Carolina went
in a title. Take him the shot facing Georgetown. Caitlin
Clark merch popularity, bad team gets him into the playoffs
(13:12):
and by the second full year of playing, are they
the best player in the league. They are the MVP
of the league.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, there's more to it than just that, right, There's
the fact that people try to rough up Jordan early
in his career, much the way they're trying to rough
her up. There was the fact that Jordan was frozen
out in his first All Star Game appearance, led by
Isaiah Thomas, which is what began kind of the war
between those two. So yeah, I mean, it was such
(13:42):
a good analogy that I used yesterday. Great minds think alike,
and I think Collins think of the same thing as
as I'm thinking, which is, Yeah, there's a there's a
certain jordan esque quality to Caitlyn Clark, even if you
know she's not yet the best player in the league.
She's the most known player in the league, and she
(14:04):
continues to improve much the way that Michael Jordan went
from you know, great rookie year, then he got hurt,
then thirty seven a game in his third year. That's
what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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Speaker 2 (14:28):
Let's find out who are what is annoying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, Something's been annoying
me since it broke yesterday. So the last part of
our radio show yesterday was spent on the breaking news
that the Wakers are selling. There's more details we talked
about on the radio show today, and I the more
(14:55):
I thought about it, the more I thought a part
of me died with that news. It's like a part
of my nostalgia died. The Lakers are better off today
than they were yesterday. The Lakers are going to be
in better shape, the bank accounts of each of the
bus children are going to be uh generationally healthy. But
(15:21):
there was something that died, and that was the Jerry
Buss Lakers. I grew up. One of the first teams
I started to follow after the Dodgers was the Lakers.
Chick hern was the soundtrack of my childhood. Sure, Jeff
Pearlman's Showtime was a great read about and then they
made the TV series about it. In other words, Jerry Buss,
(15:42):
his life has been very well documented. But it's annoying
to me that I think Jerry Buss's legacy came to
an endpoint yesterday, which kind of makes me sad to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Uh yeah, M again, I just I understand what you're saying.
I also think that he got a little he got
some credit for some of the stuff Jack knk Cook
did right because Jack cank Cook was though there was
(16:17):
a bunch of negative with the end of his ownership.
Jack Kenkulk kind of laid the foundation for then Jerry
Buss and like Jerry Bust wasn't perfect. You know, he
obviously partied with Magic Johnson and there was a lot
of weirdness to eighties though they were successful in LA
or whatever. But I get it. Yeah, showtime Laker's officially done.
(16:39):
And it's there's a certain Tommy Boy element to it
as well, right where you can, no matter how much
you want your kids to go and succeed, and take
the family business and take it to a high level.
And there are some things, you know, spectrum, spectrum sports,
some of the other things they were able to do,
(17:00):
but they were sadly left behind because they were just
a family owned business. It was the main business. It
wasn't like there was Cherry Buss Enterprises and then the
Lakers were part of it, like the new owner, he's
made all his money in finance, He's got investments ten
(17:21):
times over. And this is I mean, this is obviously
going to be a huge part of his empire, but
again just part of his empire. And so because of it,
they kind of got priced out of trying to put
together a real club. And they've always been a very
bizarre shop in that they've been successful despite the fact
(17:43):
they haven't spent on anything other than the players. Even
the coaches have been wildly underpaid. And I would guess
those days are coming to an end. So I understand
what you're saying, but I would also tell you that
if the Celtics can be sold twice here in the
last fifteen years, there's no reason that the Lakers can't
be sold. And again, to me, the bigger story is
(18:04):
that if the Lakers, the Celtics, the Mavericks, and the
Hornets have all been sold here in the last calendar year,
it tells you that smart people think it's time to
cash out because either the cost of doing business is
too high or the increase in their values is going
to come to a crashing halt.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The other team that Mark Walter, Mark Walter am I
saying that right Sure, that didn't come off my tongue
right owns in the market of the Dodgers, you wanted
to say, Mark Wahlberg. They did something very disappointing yesterday
and I'm annoyed by it. I've been talking about this
on this podcast this week and on the air. The Dodgers,
throughout the entire ice protests remains silent, much to the
(18:46):
chagrin of this small minority of people that are very lowed.
They may remain silent. They're not going to take a stand.
They're not going to alienate any of their fan base.
Jack Harris of the La Times announced this yesterday. Tomorrow
they will announce their plans for assistance to immigrant communities
impacted by their recent events in Los Angeles. Have no
(19:07):
idea what that means. Dylan Hernandez, a columnists for The Times.
I still have to wait to see what this entails.
But good on the fans who spoke up an important
reminder that if you stop giving teams your money or
even threatened to, they will listen. Uh, that's complete bullshit.
And I'm I'm and I'm really sad and by the
(19:27):
fact that the Dodgers are giving into this. They have
been bullied or guilt tripped into taking a side, which
is just not good business and I just hate to
see it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Uh yeah, I think you're right, But again I would
I would also say, like like it's hard because there
is there does come a point to where no matter
(20:02):
how much you want to stay out of it, like
like America and World War two, eventually you're gonna get
brought in where you got to pick a side. And
I do think that the Dodgers, because such a huge
percentage of their fan base is Latino, I don't think
they really had much of a choice here other than
(20:23):
to stay out of the fray as long as they
could stay out of the fray. So you're not wrong
because the Dodgers, again, I actually think they wanted to
stay out of it, but you know, much like the mafia,
they kept get getting brought back in.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Over the last twenty four hours, two people who have
been caught for speeding over one hundred miles an hour.
Shadu Or Sanders was caught for speeding in Ohio and
a Dodge truck Zach Edy caught going one hundred miles
an hour in a Kia. This is what's annoying. If
you're going to be caught speeding, it better be in
(20:58):
a Ferrari, it better be and a American muscle car.
Don't be caught speeding in a Kia. That little detail
of the story made Zachi d look much less cool.
I think that's awesome way it is, soul turbo. It
was badass. I think could rip.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, uh, I'm look, I said, there's I
It's just a great punchline. It's no matter how that
And that's kind of the problem with Kia, right, It's
just like the Memphis Grizzlies, you know, and now the
city of Memphis and Steven A.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No matter how much better Memphis is than it used
to be, Memphis earned the reputation is one of the
murder capitals of the country, and so it's very it's
very easy to make Memphis a punchline, no matter how
much better kias are. Now there's some really nice kias.
The fact is that the second you drop that line,
I thought it was funny. And again I got a car.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I know there's a lot of really nice kias, but
I did think it was funny.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Lakers, Dodgers or Kia.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Lakers, Dodgers, or speeding tickets with mid cars. Uh, I'm
gonna say Lakers. And here's why it's annoying that everybody
does in fact have a price, right, that's the Lakers.
(22:28):
To me, there had to be a world in which
you sell a minority stake and you keep control. If
it's about money, that's what you do. And I understand
the cost of doing business is absorb it. But you
can't take loans based upon the value of the franchise
and ten billion dollars. It's not hard to take a loan,
but it does. Everybody has a price, and it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Hey Doug Yes, Nick Young former basketball player suckers. I
don't think he could sound more stoned as he was
talking to go with Arenas here, but you need to
hear what he said the story about Jeremy Lynn when
Sanity and Kobe.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Bryant, Jeremy Lynn, the hype and all that, and he
was he was just like he cry and ship at halftime.
So Kobe didn't like crying this ship not like tears
or just like playing like crying like we gotta be better,
but you gotta be better at the team. Man, talk
into the team. We gotta be one, y'all. Don't listen
(23:45):
and ship like that. So Kobe didn't like that, So shiite,
not with the not with.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You. Gotta get it.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, no care about your feeling, right, He.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Didn't talk to Germany Lynn the whole year out of that.
After that practice, after that practice, the whole week cold
different because Jeremy Wayne trying to say, can we just talk?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Man?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And covid let me get the fuck away from me
with that crying like can we just talk? After that
practice start crying like what type of team are we
can't cool? Can I just talk to you?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Man?
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Those the last words I heard them talk to each
other was get the fuck away from you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's amazing sound. That's honestly amazing sound. Why could play
for you? There's only one another one? Uh, there's only
one Kobe Bryant because we can't. That's it for the
end of BOATS podcast. Chick Got the radio show three
to five Eastern Talk to Pacific Fox Sports Radio, iHeart
Radio app. I'm Doug Golic.
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports RADI. Oh, welcome, welcome, Hey,
welcome in. How you doing. I saw an article when
I woke up today and I thought it was perfect
(00:32):
for something that Jay Stu and I have discussed oftentimes
some on air, but a lot of it is off air.
And so I went to Yahoo, right, just open up Yahoo,
and they have something called The Spun by Athlon Sports
and there's a gentleman I'm thinking by the name of
Andrew Holleran who wrote an article. The article is titled
(00:57):
and I understand that authors don't write headlines. I don't
don't know if that's the case on these type of
kind of hybrid thrown together whatever things. There's a growing
push for Kaitlin Clark to leave the WNBA that originally
appeared on the Spun Okay Spun, and I was thinking
to myself, Wow, I didn't know this right that there's
(01:22):
a real discussion there over Caitlin Clark leaving the WNBA.
What would she leave the WNBA for? And it goes
in a little bit to who she is and how
there's a there was a kerfuffle on the court with
Marina Maybray, how she was hitting the eye by J. C. Sheldon,
(01:43):
it's a former rival. And then it goes into what
I think is the absolute positive worst thing ever in
the history of the media. It's one thing to aggregate
stories somebody else the work. You write a headline, you
write your own commentary, and then really what you do
(02:04):
is you create a link to somebody who actually did
all the work. That's one thing. But to aggregate other
people's Twitter feeds that don't matter to any fucking human
being outside of that person and creating some false narrative
is awful. That's not journalism. They don't fucking matter. And
here's what I mean in the article. One fan added,
(02:25):
Caitlin Clark should leave the WNBA. She should do much
better for herself. Another fan added, Kaitlin Clark should leave
the league join whatever league there is out there. Say
FU to the WNBA. No one cares about this league.
They only tune in to watch Caitlin Clark and they
will do wherever she plays. Now, look, there is a
certain like, yeah, I mean, she is the biggest straw
(02:48):
in the league. But much like Lebron, much like Jordan,
much like whomever Magice Johnson, Larry Bird who saved the NBA.
Let's not kid ourselves. You do need a league, you
do need substance and the legitimate of the WNBA. But
the point is that the only people who are suggesting
this are some random fan who doesn't know fucking shit
about shit. There's no growing movement. There's people on Twitter. Hey,
(03:15):
by the way, Okay, if I take Twitter or what
appears in my feed as reality, Okay, somehow over the
last week there's Iranian news that has gotten into, uh
into my feed? Anybody else have this? Twitter's like Iranian
(03:35):
slanted news. Now, I don't need to tell you just
because I'm Jewish, also because I have a brain that
I'm not supporting Iran in the Iran Israel conflict. But
even dumber yet is the false narratives news. And I
saw one where it's literally AI of a jet flying
(03:56):
around and you know, bullets whizzing at it, and they're like,
there's the we have thirty five that was shot down.
It's total and complete and utter bullshit. But we have
to stop this. And Yahoo again and they put it
off on some athlon sports thing called the spun and
somebody pretends to be There's no growing fucking movement. The
(04:22):
only growing movement is that people are actually watching the
WNBA more because of Caitlin Clark, and the sport is
growing in leaps and blowns because of Caitlin Clark. And
is she the biggest wrong in the league. Yes, But
does she need a league for legitimacy?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And now look if there was a group of WNBA
or former wn players or agents that are like, hey, look,
you know, she could just go overseas and play, but
she wouldn't be the same draw. But again, there are
leverage points there. This is more and Jason, you and
I have talked about it at nauseam, which is that's
(05:02):
not how it's done. Those people don't matter. And this
is what Elon Musk did by eliminating the verified checks.
If you don't have a check by your name back
in the day or a couple of years ago, then
your opinion doesn't matter, period stop, period stop. And I
don't know what it's going to take, what it's going
(05:24):
to take for people to for people to realize that
the spun, which purports itself as something like that reports
us something like news and really it's just aggregating other
(05:45):
people's Twitter handles.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The Fox Says and Now every did at this time
with The Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Podcast, to
play for you a portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One. Uh, this is
Dan Patrick talk about the new Lakers ownership group.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You got all these different things that are going on
to try to prevent owners from buying a championship here.
And while he has the money the resources there, it'll
be different in what he does now. He could give
the Lakers the same edge that Golden State had. They
spent money. They spent their money buying a dynasty, building
(06:43):
a dynasty. But you're you're investing heavily, maybe in scouting
and analytics. You're still gonna have stars. The Lakers always
have stars. But this is an NBA era defined by
luxury taxes and second aprons, and a deep pocketed owner
doesn't have the same impact. But ten billion dollars for
(07:04):
the Lakers. While I was surprised at the number, I
was probably more surprised that they were sold. And you know,
with what Mark has done with the Dodgers, which has
been an unbelievable blueprint of we have the money, we'll spend,
we'll spend wisely. We get the right people, we get
our kind of player, we got our kind of manager.
(07:25):
They're going to refurbish Dodger Stadium, so they're doing all
the right things to build an infrastructure. And I think
that's the important part of this.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, again, Dan's not wrong, but I do think, and
we started the show talking about this, we're just not
We're looking at this so much about championships and winning
and legacy and et cetera. When again, I love this
(07:56):
expression that kids use these days, it's not that deep.
I remember when Michael Jordan's sold sold a majority steak
in the Hornets. Okay, there are people who said, well,
he's doing it because he needs the money. When Mark
Cuban sold his steak in the Mavericks, people wonder why,
(08:18):
then you see Genie bus and I think the answer
is really really simple. As much as it feels like
the you know, the value of these franchises will never
go down and continue to explode. My guess is that
(08:38):
they feel like the margin between what you're spending and
what you're making is going to shrink, and now's the
time to cash in your chips because they see the
three hundred million dollar plus contracts coming, they see all
the taxes coming, they see the cost of doing business
(09:00):
and how it's only going up, and they also see
the spike in the values. This is nothing other than
selling high after buying low. That that's all it is.
I mean, ask yourself, there's we again. We have tunnel
vision where like wow, you know the Lakers and this
and that, Like the Lakers, the Celtics, the Mavericks, the
Hornets have all been sold in the last year. What
(09:23):
does that tell you? That tells you that the sense
is from really smart business people that values are at
an all time high and they're probably inflated, and whether
or not they come down doesn't matter because right now
the cost of doing business is way higher than before
and it just doesn't make any sense when you can
cash in your tips. And if you're the bus family,
(09:46):
you know, if you net out eight billion dollars, nobody's
family's ever working again, and oh yeah, by the way,
you carve out a couple you know, six months a
year where you're still doing your thing. Is the even
though you're you know, it's you're the king of a
banana republic. It just that's what's really going on here.
(10:09):
That's what's really going on here. Here is Rob Parker
talking about the Browns and Stuart Sanders.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
If I'm the Browns and I'm seeing this going on,
I'm gonna have to pull the plug on the chador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He should be cut immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'm not serious, but I'm serious, and I want to
say this. Backup quarterbacks, fifth round picks should be seen,
not sighted. It's the worst thing you can do.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
That's not that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You know, obviously I'm playing about being cut, but that
is not what you want. Because once you become a
distraction and you start doing stuff, that's when it's easier
for people to say, do we really want this? This
is not came to Cleveland. People make mistakes. I'm not
saying he's got to be a perfect but this is
not what you want. This is just don't make yourself
(10:59):
a distraction when you're not in the plans for an organization,
and that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I think, I think it's just a bad look.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, you know again, I'm not gonna sit here and
tell you I haven't sped. Matter of fact, I got
pulled over for speeding sixty eight to fifty five. Just
going back to yesterday. There's one, the fact that it's excessive.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Two.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know what happens is when you when you have
crazy expensive cars, crazy expensive watches, crazy expensive jewelry, you're
painting an image of entitlement to everyone around you. Then
you get pulled over speeding. So, in the grand scheme
of things, is it a big deal? Yeah? Yeah, it's
(11:43):
going way too don't it's way too fast. There's no
one on earth that says on one's not accessive. If
you go eighty two and a fifty five, if it's
on an interstate or whatever, it's nobody there that's not crazy.
You get above ninety and everybody's like, all right, well lot,
get about one hundred. Now we're talking ridiculous. So it
(12:05):
tracks it. It's one of those actions more so than words,
and his actions continue to to look like somebody who's
more on the end is incident title. That's really what
it comes out to. Here's Colin Cowherd talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
There's a lot of similarities between Michael Jordan and Caitlin Clark.
Think about this. So both were very popular in college
before Michael got to the Bulls, they were awful twenty
seven and fifty five. First year in, he improved him
by eleven games. They made the playoffs. They still weren't great,
but he got him into the playoffs. Pre Kaitlyn Clark
fever awful by the end of year one, though for Michael,
we were thinking, is this guy a top three player
(12:44):
in the league By the end of last year outside
of Asia Wilson, We're thinking, is Kaitlyn a top three
player in the league?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Year three?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Michael MVP? Year two for Caitlin, hopefully she doesn't get hurt,
will she be an MVP? These are very similar players.
Both sold a ton of merchandise. We fell in love
with him and knew and Michael's at North Carolina went
in a title. Take him the shot facing Georgetown. Caitlin
Clark merch popularity, bad team gets him into the playoffs
(13:12):
and by the second full year of playing, are they
the best player in the league. They are the MVP
of the league.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, there's more to it than just that, right, There's
the fact that people try to rough up Jordan early
in his career, much the way they're trying to rough
her up. There was the fact that Jordan was frozen
out in his first All Star Game appearance, led by
Isaiah Thomas, which is what began kind of the war
between those two. So yeah, I mean, it was such
(13:42):
a good analogy that I used yesterday. Great minds think alike,
and I think Collins think of the same thing as
as I'm thinking, which is, Yeah, there's a there's a
certain jordan esque quality to Caitlyn Clark, even if you
know she's not yet the best player in the league.
She's the most known player in the league, and she
(14:04):
continues to improve much the way that Michael Jordan went
from you know, great rookie year, then he got hurt,
then thirty seven a game in his third year. That's
what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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Speaker 2 (14:28):
Let's find out who are what is annoying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, Something's been annoying
me since it broke yesterday. So the last part of
our radio show yesterday was spent on the breaking news
that the Wakers are selling. There's more details we talked
about on the radio show today, and I the more
(14:55):
I thought about it, the more I thought a part
of me died with that news. It's like a part
of my nostalgia died. The Lakers are better off today
than they were yesterday. The Lakers are going to be
in better shape, the bank accounts of each of the
bus children are going to be uh generationally healthy. But
(15:21):
there was something that died, and that was the Jerry
Buss Lakers. I grew up. One of the first teams
I started to follow after the Dodgers was the Lakers.
Chick hern was the soundtrack of my childhood. Sure, Jeff
Pearlman's Showtime was a great read about and then they
made the TV series about it. In other words, Jerry Buss,
(15:42):
his life has been very well documented. But it's annoying
to me that I think Jerry Buss's legacy came to
an endpoint yesterday, which kind of makes me sad to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Uh yeah, M again, I just I understand what you're saying.
I also think that he got a little he got
some credit for some of the stuff Jack knk Cook
did right because Jack cank Cook was though there was
(16:17):
a bunch of negative with the end of his ownership.
Jack Kenkulk kind of laid the foundation for then Jerry
Buss and like Jerry Bust wasn't perfect. You know, he
obviously partied with Magic Johnson and there was a lot
of weirdness to eighties though they were successful in LA
or whatever. But I get it. Yeah, showtime Laker's officially done.
(16:39):
And it's there's a certain Tommy Boy element to it
as well, right where you can, no matter how much
you want your kids to go and succeed, and take
the family business and take it to a high level.
And there are some things, you know, spectrum, spectrum sports,
some of the other things they were able to do,
(17:00):
but they were sadly left behind because they were just
a family owned business. It was the main business. It
wasn't like there was Cherry Buss Enterprises and then the
Lakers were part of it, like the new owner, he's
made all his money in finance, He's got investments ten
(17:21):
times over. And this is I mean, this is obviously
going to be a huge part of his empire, but
again just part of his empire. And so because of it,
they kind of got priced out of trying to put
together a real club. And they've always been a very
bizarre shop in that they've been successful despite the fact
(17:43):
they haven't spent on anything other than the players. Even
the coaches have been wildly underpaid. And I would guess
those days are coming to an end. So I understand
what you're saying, but I would also tell you that
if the Celtics can be sold twice here in the
last fifteen years, there's no reason that the Lakers can't
be sold. And again, to me, the bigger story is
(18:04):
that if the Lakers, the Celtics, the Mavericks, and the
Hornets have all been sold here in the last calendar year,
it tells you that smart people think it's time to
cash out because either the cost of doing business is
too high or the increase in their values is going
to come to a crashing halt.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The other team that Mark Walter, Mark Walter am I
saying that right Sure, that didn't come off my tongue
right owns in the market of the Dodgers, you wanted
to say, Mark Wahlberg. They did something very disappointing yesterday
and I'm annoyed by it. I've been talking about this
on this podcast this week and on the air. The Dodgers,
throughout the entire ice protests remains silent, much to the
(18:46):
chagrin of this small minority of people that are very lowed.
They may remain silent. They're not going to take a stand.
They're not going to alienate any of their fan base.
Jack Harris of the La Times announced this yesterday. Tomorrow
they will announce their plans for assistance to immigrant communities
impacted by their recent events in Los Angeles. Have no
(19:07):
idea what that means. Dylan Hernandez, a columnists for The Times.
I still have to wait to see what this entails.
But good on the fans who spoke up an important
reminder that if you stop giving teams your money or
even threatened to, they will listen. Uh, that's complete bullshit.
And I'm I'm and I'm really sad and by the
(19:27):
fact that the Dodgers are giving into this. They have
been bullied or guilt tripped into taking a side, which
is just not good business and I just hate to
see it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Uh yeah, I think you're right, But again I would
I would also say, like like it's hard because there
is there does come a point to where no matter
(20:02):
how much you want to stay out of it, like
like America and World War two, eventually you're gonna get
brought in where you got to pick a side. And
I do think that the Dodgers, because such a huge
percentage of their fan base is Latino, I don't think
they really had much of a choice here other than
(20:23):
to stay out of the fray as long as they
could stay out of the fray. So you're not wrong
because the Dodgers, again, I actually think they wanted to
stay out of it, but you know, much like the mafia,
they kept get getting brought back in.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Over the last twenty four hours, two people who have
been caught for speeding over one hundred miles an hour.
Shadu Or Sanders was caught for speeding in Ohio and
a Dodge truck Zach Edy caught going one hundred miles
an hour in a Kia. This is what's annoying. If
you're going to be caught speeding, it better be in
(20:58):
a Ferrari, it better be and a American muscle car.
Don't be caught speeding in a Kia. That little detail
of the story made Zachi d look much less cool.
I think that's awesome way it is, soul turbo. It
was badass. I think could rip.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, uh, I'm look, I said, there's I
It's just a great punchline. It's no matter how that
And that's kind of the problem with Kia, right, It's
just like the Memphis Grizzlies, you know, and now the
city of Memphis and Steven A.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No matter how much better Memphis is than it used
to be, Memphis earned the reputation is one of the
murder capitals of the country, and so it's very it's
very easy to make Memphis a punchline, no matter how
much better kias are. Now there's some really nice kias.
The fact is that the second you drop that line,
I thought it was funny. And again I got a car.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I know there's a lot of really nice kias, but
I did think it was funny.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Lakers, Dodgers or Kia.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Lakers, Dodgers, or speeding tickets with mid cars. Uh, I'm
gonna say Lakers. And here's why it's annoying that everybody
does in fact have a price, right, that's the Lakers.
(22:28):
To me, there had to be a world in which
you sell a minority stake and you keep control. If
it's about money, that's what you do. And I understand
the cost of doing business is absorb it. But you
can't take loans based upon the value of the franchise
and ten billion dollars. It's not hard to take a loan,
but it does. Everybody has a price, and it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Hey Doug Yes, Nick Young former basketball player suckers. I
don't think he could sound more stoned as he was
talking to go with Arenas here, but you need to
hear what he said the story about Jeremy Lynn when
Sanity and Kobe.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Bryant, Jeremy Lynn, the hype and all that, and he
was he was just like he cry and ship at halftime.
So Kobe didn't like crying this ship not like tears
or just like playing like crying like we gotta be better,
but you gotta be better at the team. Man, talk
into the team. We gotta be one, y'all. Don't listen
(23:45):
and ship like that. So Kobe didn't like that, So shiite,
not with the not with.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You. Gotta get it.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, no care about your feeling, right, He.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Didn't talk to Germany Lynn the whole year out of that.
After that practice, after that practice, the whole week cold
different because Jeremy Wayne trying to say, can we just talk?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Man?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
And covid let me get the fuck away from me
with that crying like can we just talk? After that
practice start crying like what type of team are we
can't cool? Can I just talk to you?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Man?
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Those the last words I heard them talk to each
other was get the fuck away from you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That's amazing sound. That's honestly amazing sound. Why could play
for you? There's only one another one? Uh, there's only
one Kobe Bryant because we can't. That's it for the
end of BOATS podcast. Chick Got the radio show three
to five Eastern Talk to Pacific Fox Sports Radio, iHeart
Radio app. I'm Doug Golic.
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