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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the
bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show the Fox Sports Radio. So
I saw this story and I thought it was I
thought it was pretty cool. I thought it was pretty interesting.
So Austin Reeves is a young and up and coming
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talented player with the Lakers. I'm not willing to call
him a star yet. He's the third best of a
three head monstery might even be the second best next year,
considering Lebron is in year what twenty one coming up?
But he recently turned down a ninety million dollar exception,
a ninety million dollar extension, And the thinking is that
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he turned it down because, well, next season he'd be
eligible for a two hundred million dollar contract, whether he stays,
whether he goes. And this brings me back to what
I have said about Lebron James. Now, I don't think
Lebron James is a bad person, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Do I love how he kind of force fed he's
force fed Bronnie James. No, do I love how he
he lies about things in terms of his involvement or
you know, books he's read or things. No, but having
commercials about that leads me to believe he does at
least have a sense of humor about it and knows
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that he's kind of in on the gag. But you know,
if the worst thing you do is sort of force
us to take your your son as a real NBA
player when he's not nearly at that level, hey, that's
been done before. Dwayne Wade did it, you know, bought
a G League team just so his son could play,
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and that didn't work out. It's he's not the first.
He won't be the last in comparison to what other
people have done off the court, in comparison to what
other people have fallen short of as parents. He's not perfect,
but he's also not the worst human being ever. That said,
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I believe if his leadership was such that he was
willing to take less than top dollar, if he was
willing to make a point about his desire to win
above all else at the end of his career, I
think it might have been a different conversation with Austin Reeves.
For the Lakers right now, there's a limit to what
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they can do financially. But again, if Lebron James is
all in on you. It is all in on the team,
and hey, I'm going to take the least amount possible
so that we can put the best players around us possible.
And at my age, I'm going to take less so
you can build more and I have to play less.
If that was the case, why wouldn't Reeves want to stay?
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It's la, it's the Lakers. We can do something creative
and eventually I'll financially benefit from it. But Lebron hasn't
done that. It's never done that, never suggested doing that.
And because of it, well here they are and what's
likely to be his and Austin Reeves last year. And
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when you have an expiring contract, it also makes you
highly tradable. The point is a simple one, which is
this is not to say Lebron's a horrible human being.
He's not. This is not to say he's a terrible leader.
He's not. But the next level of being a leader
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is understanding yourself, where you fit in and how you
can get more quality players. And the only way the
Lakers and look, had he not had he he made
them draft Bronnie James, they game afore year contract. Brianni
is gonna be on the big club. That is not
a sign that you want to win above all else
that it's the sign of I want my son there
and if you win, great, But the sun has to
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be there, whereas it should be the opposite approach. I
want to win and if we can, we can figure
out a way which is good enough to make the
team great. If not, don't worry about it. But you
send these signals based upon the amount of money you
make and based upon how you kind of manipulate things
and operate within the scope of your family, your agents,
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your friends, et cetera. Lebron is about Lebron. Lebron is
about Lebron's family, and there's nothing really wrong with that.
But that wasn't about winning. Austin Reeves probably wants to
get paid but also would like to win. And if
you're winning in LA or your sacrificing yourself to win
in LA, don't you think he would join you.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
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Speaker 2 (04:51):
Let get to the Fox Has and Now every Day
and the Doug Out lip Chili in the Bonus Podcast
to play for your portion, but previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick. He's talking about Ravens
All Pro Kicker or former Ravens All Pro kicker. Justin
Tucker get suspended ten games for allegedly doing some bad
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things at a high end massage parlors in the Baltimore area.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He has been suspended for ten weeks by the NFL.
His agent. Justin Tucker's agent, Rob Roach, said, we are
disappointed with the NFL's decision. Justin has always strived to
carry himself in a way that would make his family
and community proud. He stands by his previous statements in
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order to put this difficult episode behind him and get
back on the field as soon as possible. We have
advised Justin to accept this resolution and close this matter.
It doesn't close this matter. He's still going to be
viewed as guilty of something here, and if probably more so.
Now you're going why would you accept this? If you said, hey,
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I have done nothing wrong, why would you allow this?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm sure there's legal reasons, you know, far above my
pay grade. He has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing calling the
allegations unequivocally false, and describing the Baltimore newspaper The Banner's
article as desperate tabloid fodder. Why not keep fighting you're
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not employed by a team.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think there's truly anyway he
plays again in the NFL, you know, and Dan's right,
fighting it is the way. But if you fight it,
you do run the risk of them doing an overall
investigation and maybe Morvic becomes public. I don't know. But
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if you didn't do anything wrong, you go to your
deathbed saying we didn't do anything wrong. Here's Colin Cowhert
talking about the report that Ace Bailey's agent told a
top five team not to draft their client.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Ace Bailey is this kind of kid that like his representative,
his agent told him, Hey, he told one of the
top five teams not to pick him. And I'm thinking,
where are the adults to help this kid? Where are
he's getting horrible advice? Reportedly, he's a good kid, but
when the year started he was considered the second best
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player to Cooper flag, second best prospect. So he's already
cost himself nine million dollars, dropping from third where he
should have gone to fifth And by the way, his
teammate Dylan Harper, Ron Harper always in his life is there.
Unfortunately Ace dad was in and out of his life. Well,
you got mom, you got other people. This story though,
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where are the adults to help this kid because he
hired an agent, Omar Cooper. And I know we don't
like agents, right, I don't see this happening, you know
to a lot of agents players. Uh, this is Omar
Cooper legal issues in the past, not certified agent by
the NBA. One NBA client, Ace Bailey. He needed a strong, certified,
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respected agent because no adults are stepping in for this kid.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It was au coach. Sure if Cooper's dad is his
his agent, and you know, you want a professional job,
get a get a professional job done. And the crazy
part is you don't really even need an agent on
your rookie contract because there's not a ton to negotiate.
You can just you know, use a contract lawyer. This
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this whole like, don't draft me. I don't want to
go there to Utah, like what it just makes no
sense to me? Go play basketball. You know, I don't
doubt that there's been some negative interactions at times, with
a fan and a player. But I also know people
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that have lived in Salt Lake City and black players
that have lived in Salt Lake City that freaking love it.
Like you, professional basketball player, go play just there are
good there. Probably it's like anything. There's more good agents
than bad agents. But this is not good smart advice.
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It's just not. And now you're playing hardball with Danny Inge.
And I don't think Danny Aingel's relenting, nor should he
doesn't need to. Chris Brusstart said this about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now, look, KD, I know you don't care. You don't
care what people are saying about your ability or inability
to win championships, how rings affects your legacy. It's all
about you know, shooting the j dribbling the basketball better
than you did yesterday.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
It's worked for fun, it's worked for you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I did it, honorable, No, I get it. But here's
what you gotta recognize. K do you have a great
opportunity here. I called it essentially a no lose situation.
I mean, unless you go there and the rockets fall
off and are in the play in or whatever it
might be, go out in the first round on you're set. Yes,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You'll be set.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And I don't think you have to win a championship,
but imagine if you do, and you have the team
to do it. You got defenders now with you. They've
got scoring, you got a fantastic coach that you vibe with.
You've got youth and athleticism, you got age and leadership,
and Fred van Vliet and some others, and so you've
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got a grand opportunity here. Imagine if you win the championship,
all the mental asterisks that some people have put beside
your Golden State rings gone, could put in an instant
all right, all of the you go. You know from
the audience talk about you can't be a leader, you're
not a leader, go.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Uh yeah. I just I think Kevin Rant knows who
he is. I just do. And I understand what Chris
Perssard is saying. But Kad knows who he is as
a person, who he is as a player, and I
think he's at this point in his career it's like, look,
he here's how he's a leader. He's a leader. That
he's always in the gym, he's a leader, and that
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he's constantly trying to make himself better. He's a leader
and that he's not scared to take to make the
big shot, and he's learned to become a much better defender.
Although now as he creeps up in age, I'm sure
some of that will become more and more eliminated. But
you can't. I understand that the prestige of who KD
is should thrust him into the realm of being a leader.
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But if that's not who you are, it's not who
you are. That's what the Fox says say.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
This is great. I want our listeners to go out
and find Jeffrey Ross toast.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That toast master.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah, he was Ghastmaster Howard Stern yesterday. It's a great conversation.
It's like an hour long conversation. But there was a
part that uh works for us, particularly because it's sports
and it's Tom Brady. The behind the scenes of Tom
Brady getting a live roast on Netflix, as told by
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Jeffrey Ross, There's.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Never been a live roast, so he should get a
Nobel Peace Prize for saying yes to that and letting
us all. You know, he took the hit so we
could all forget our problems for three hours, right, and
I have billion viewing minutes, you know. And there hadn't
been a roast in five years, Howard. So I had
seen him looking at my Instagram on Super Bowl Sunday
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a few years ago. I was like, and I was like,
why the fuck is Tom Brady on my Instagram? I go, oh,
I had some jokes up. Maybe he's how he unwinds
before a big game and he fucking wins. So I
hit him the next day on Instagram, going, dude, it's
time for a roast. You obviously love this shit. Let's
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and he writes me back and we start talking and
it turns out, you know, my agent and his agent,
they work together, and we put a deal together. And
I sit to Tom right beforehand, you know, why are
you doing this? And he goes, I love this kind
of humor. People are too snowflaky right now, right, no fear,
this is what we do is what he texted me.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
And then like the annoying part about the entire thing,
And I think the further we get away from that roast,
the more incredible it was that Tom Brady did a roast.
I think that when Tom Brady says people are too
snowflakery and I can handle it, I think he like
his experience at that point was locker room locker room digging.
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Like shit talking in the locker room is very good,
and it's just the way dudes relate. But you just
don't have very smart people and they're not coming for
you personally as much. And then you get onto the
roast stage with professional comedians that do it for a
living and they say some stuff that really hits home
literally and with their kids. Then your ex wife is
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pissed off. Brady goes on record saying he regrets doing it.
I'm annoyed by maybe the lack of foresight that he had,
like he was like, I'm just gonna dive into this
and have almost zero regard for anyone It could possibly
affect that. I think that probably is the most annoying
part about this. But Doug, don't you agree, Like the
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further we get away from that roast, the more like
incredible it seems that he did that. He just took
shots for three hours on live TV.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes, absolutely, the fact that it was live, the fact
that there hadn't been a roast in five years, even
the Belichick part to it was all fantastic, all fantastic.
Probably like like I think you're getting it never happened again,
but totally fantastic.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, that could probably is another annoying thing that like
that was probably a cautionary tale for anyone in public.
That's like a maybe I'll reconsider the roast. Paige Beckers,
I'm looking at Sam for the She's made some headlines
with this. She made a headlines. She defends Caitlin Clark
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and the expectations.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Put on her.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
See handles it with grace and the pressure that she's
put on every single night's perform at the level.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That she does.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Inhumane, really like to expect for people to be perfect
and to not have off games or off nights and
if something's if she doesn't go like a for ten
from three, like people aren't questioning things. It's just it's
unfair to.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Have to do with that.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
So inhumane to put a pressure on someone. I don't
know if inhumane is the word.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that's what
she was looking for, But well, you whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, here's the annoying part about this. As I'm listening
to that sound. Everyone heard that, right If the WNBA
wants to be taken seriously, and they keep telling us
they do, and they keep telling us we're assholes and
misogynists and racists if we don't like it. If you
want to be taken seriously, you need to fire everybody
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who's in charge of the technical aspect of the way
your sport is covered. Every time we try to find
some fucking sound from this league, it's a second generation
cell phone recording of someone saying something very interesting, fucking
basketballs in the background, every single piece of sound. If
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you want to be taken seriously, you need to reimagine
the way your sport is covered because it's a joke
and we can't use it on audio platforms. So you
were annoyed by the acoustics in the background, and listen
to that replay that see handles it with grace and
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the pressure that I'm listening to more right now, I mean,
you hear NBA clips with that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Get it, but he's I think beingcast.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I will I will totally agree with the uh, you know,
someone's getting the sound from a press conference is coming
from like a third phone recorded off of a freaking
answering machine. You have Angel Reese, I think maybe maybe
her her best quote of all time is she's on
a microphone talking and for whatever reason, the w N
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doesn't release that on microphone sound and the sound is
like a reporter cell phone. It's just fucking stupid. So
Ben Roethlisberger said something that's very much raising some eyebrows,
Doug raising eyebrows among those that cover the NFL. Just
imagine after hearing this SoundBite, what all the people that
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are paid to talk about the NFL said about this.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Go ahead, Well, I would.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Take Aaron and his prime over Patrick now, I think, yeah.
I think Aaron Rodgers at his prime was one of
the top.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Few to ever do it.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
And so with Patrick Mahomes his prime, Patrick Mahomes is
just just by entering out of his prime, I think.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I mean, so there's like a there's a couple of
ways of looking at this. It's stupid to be to
have outrage about that. It's it's if you think that
Mahomes a little better at Fine whatever. Mahomes has this
going for him. He's got a better coach, and he's
got a better fucking franchise. He's won the rings. But
when you just take pure talent, and I think this
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is what Roethlisberger is referring to, I don't know if
you're I don't know how this could be even argued,
Like I think Rogers was more talented in his prime
than Mahomes is.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It could be argued because people think that super bowls
and Super Bowl wins is the end l BO, right,
But I do think it's annoying that that is the
end BO. Is it it?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I've got what Roethlisberger said, Paige Becker's through basketballs and
the Tom Brady roast. That's annoying that it probably won't
happen again.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I'm annoyed at Hmmm, what am I most annoyed by.
I'm annoyed by the fact that Tom Brady Rose probably
won't happen again because he's sort of unhappy with it
that everybody else is like, yeah, you know, if Brady's
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not happy with it, and they start throwing his ex
wife under the bus with it. I'm gonna I'm not
gonna do it, and that's the night.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I'm just gonna remind listeners that a new Friday feature
is that we're going to play the best piece of
sound from the weeks. That's the new feature. It's exciting
and it doesn't really get much better. This might be.
It's definitely the sound of the month of June. As
we wrap up, you'd probably even say it's a sound
of twenty twenty five. To this point, it's George Kittle
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on the Vastar system.
Speaker 10 (20:44):
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my workouts, like I'll go, I'll lift, I'll run my routes,
run hills, and then I do like a twenty minute
aster session four days a week, no matter what, no shit,
I love it. You feel, dude. You also it knocks
you the fuck out at night on reaches. You sleep
well and you have wild dreams too.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I likes systems doing a whole bunch of different things.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
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you blow huge loads.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
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Speaker 10 (21:18):
Yeah, So like what kind of loads were talking?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It sounds like huge ones, will.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
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how do I sit now? I just got to say it,
like that's how it was sold, like to like players,
it's like, look at boost your tasaser and you sleep
really well, you're gonna feel great, and you also blow
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Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's so funny. Like you play for you because we can.
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