July 2, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug riffs on the situation at BYU where a quarterback is in the middle of controversy. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take about Caitlin Clark. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Kevin Garnett makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.
iHeart REDEO app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. So if you
listen to the radio show, you know we talked a
lot about Mike Brown be the next head coach, head
coach of the Knicks. It's interesting. We get some other
(00:35):
good stuff for you, but I wanted to start with
a story that it's it's really made waves on social media.
It's one that I had somebody had texted me about.
But I you know, it's like you get so many
texts in a day, and I had a lot of
stuff going on yesterday that I didn't pay attention. But
our group text for this show. Suddenly I think, Sam,
(00:58):
you started kind of focusing on it, and I was like, oh,
we got to talk about this. So okay. Jake Rhetz
laugh was the coach. It was the quarterback at b YU.
We had him on the show. First ever Jewish football
player at BUYU quarterback and had a great year for
the Cougars. What's the story.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So Jake Rhet's laugh.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh, sometime last year was accused by women of some
pretty grizzly things rape, strangulation, I believe, you know. And
and basically he was he was in trouble twofold. He
was in trouble with a lawsuit that came his way
accusing him of rape and through the school. Obviously BYU
has like the Mormon perspective, so honor code, honor code,
(01:38):
they frown on pre marital sex, so he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Count on it. You're you have to sign an honor code,
right and you have to say that I Am not
going to have alcohol, drugs, alcohol, pre marital sex while
I'm a student at BUYU.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So in summary, he was accused of violating all of that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
The the actually the rape lawsuit was dismissed yesterday or
in the last few days. But he's still If he
had stayed at BYU, he would have had to he
would have still been in violation of the honor code
having premiatal sex he said his consensual and he would
have had to sit out seven games. So he's in
the transfer portal. Now he's leaving, and you know, we
(02:17):
go to I shared you with you guys. A tweet
from the great message board geniuses. They take some of
these wacky ideas from fans and they amplify them, they
make fun of them. Basically, Jake, this person on message
boards message board geniuses was saying that Jake Retz laugh
was just a small cog, a small act in a
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grander scheme for Utah Utes football to topple BYU football
in the state of Utah. And I'll just read this here.
So this is a message board genius. This is their
little caption that go urgent. It appears that Utah hashtag
Utah has sent an army of skanks to provo please
be alert and use caution. And this person's person on
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a BYU message, uh, they said, uh, you know this
is this the you talking about Utah Utes. The U
is like the Soviet Union. One of the one of
the KGB's most developed schemes was the Honeypot. Many many
blackmail wins for them on that front during the Cold War.
It appears in the Brave New World of Tampering, the
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Utes are going to employ similar schemes. B b YU
needs to inform its athletes that there are Ute co
ed's on the loose. They'll give you a venereal disease
and an honor code violation. My guess is what little
war chest Harlan has is going to go all in
on developing an army of skanks that will prowl around Provo.
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So Jake Raetz laugh fell victim to uh, I guess
the alleged skanks on the loose in Provo tempting him
and getting him into some trouble uh with with the
with the school and his own We know that?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do we know that to be true?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What what I just read?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, I have no idea. It's message board.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's unbelievable message board fodder. It's the most diabolical shit
you've ever heard. Right, we sent it. We sent a
chick to go sleep with the BYU quarterbacks so he
get kicked out of school.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We sent fluozies from the University of Utah up to
Provo to tempt our quarterbacks, our players who are living
by an honor code that must not be violated. And
it's it's all an attempt to topple BYU football. I mean,
the the the the harsh feelings between those two schools
are real, are real.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They go back, they go back generations.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, which is it's that that part to it is okay,
so Chase do we Here's how I view these stories.
I don't know it's true, but I believe that there's
gotta be some truth in it, right, There's got to
be some sort of truth in it. Again, I don't
know if the woman he slept with is really a
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plant from the University of Utah, but God, I wanted
to believe it's true because it just makes for a
better story. We root for great content, don'tly that's great content,
even if I also feel bad like Jaj's WRTT, Like,
I know he's not supposed to violate the Honor Code,
but I feel bad for him because I mean, it's
one thing to violate on our code. It's hardly to
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be accused of some heinous rape situation which you didn't do,
while also violating the honor Code that you don't really
have to abide by, you know, in your own mind,
because you're like, well, I'm not Mormon, even though you
did sign the paper, regardless, you're not your Mormon.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I don't want to dismiss the woman's allegations, you know,
I do who We don't know, Doug, We don't know
no she has.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
He was never charged with a crime, and this civil
case has been dismissed, so there's no crime. We can
dismiss any allegations.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Sure, I'll buy I got you on that part.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Again, Like all we can go by is the district attorney.
And I continue to say this, there is not a
high bar for a civil case and for a criminal
case there's a higher bar. But it didn't cross any
of those two bars. And so yeah, there we can
dismiss any claim like line kakua level, but it's close.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
The amount of proof to uh, the amount of proof
to decide in someone's favor is smaller, right in a
civil case.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Looks like Dan Byer wants to weigh in. Dan Bayer
came in pressing for the show, and yeah, this is
just not getting my ears right.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And I know everything about message board geniuses, follow them
as well. I just want to say this because I
don't want anybody to get in the spot. And Doug,
I know what you're saying. With civil cases and whatnot.
It would be one thing if there was a Utah
group that said, look, this girl just goes around and
sleeps with all these BYU players to make them ineligible
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to violate the honor Code. Completely different when you bring
rape in to the equation. So there was the allegation
of that. Now Doug as you know with who is
the basketball player and Saim maybe even you remember from
years back that ended up having premarital sex and was
kicked off the team. Like this is that is one
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thing because of the violation of the honor Code. But
when you bring it in the rape allegation in whether
it be criminal or civil, I think we're at a
different level.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I'm down there. Brandon Davies was his name, Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And the crazy part about it is, I think again,
maybe we could maybe we could look. I'm pretty sure
Brandon Davey ended up marrying the woman who he admitted
to sleeping with who I don't know if she was
on the volleyball team. Like they've been married ever since.
So it was a crazy thing. He got kicked off
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the team in the NCA term when they had Jay,
when they had Jimmer fordet because he had premarital sex.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
So that's just like that would be one level. But
when it like that, this is not that And I
think that's the point of the message board is that
look at how ridiculous or the whole point of message
board geniuses is to say, look at how ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Some of these theories are. Yes, and that was that
was ended up being one of them.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's a funny. It's a funny, ridiculous thing. And yeah,
I'm not I'm not trying to dismiss the seriousness of
if actual rape had occurred. I'm it's just this person
put this out there. And maybe this person was just
trolling us and having a good time, or they might
believe it. But either way, it's just ridiculous and absurd
and funny.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It is ridiculous, it is absurd, it is funny. It's
all of those things I have.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I have just one the only thing I keep thinking
about with this story every time it comes up, and
I haven't been able to say it on the air,
and I could. I'm free to say it here, which
is great. So just could you confirm a couple of
things Sam, as you walk away from the microphone. The
quarterback is Jewish? Yes, it's correct. Quarterback is Jewish. And
(09:02):
he was going to be why you Church of Latter
day Saints. You know there's a conflict there the only thing,
the only question I have is does b why you
have uh an issue with uncircumcised penises?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You do know that Jewish people are the ones that
have their peace is circumcised. First?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh okay, so let's issue. You actually got circumcised.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You actually got you actually got that one in reverse?
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
No? No, so Jewish Jewish people do believe in circumcision.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, yeah, they were like we were the first, We
were the first ones.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, so I got the exact opposite. Yes, are you
going off the Friends episode? I think? So, okay, that's
what I thought. Why did I think that the Jewish
guys keep their keep their stuff uncut?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
No, we don't do tartlenicks.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I was gonna say. I think everybody at Bou, including
Ret's laugh all, has no turtle neck. I just probably
no turtal. It's very hot. That's not that's not true.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's just my guess that that's again, that's a completely
uneducated guess.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, they are, they are. They do echo or reflect
some things from Christianity. So right, Christianity Mormonism are two
different things. But I think that some of the customs are.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Christianity is not is not necessarily pro circumcision. It's not
usually euro guy euro guy is Yeah, it's actually a
rabbi performed a moile performs the circumcision. We were the
first to get circumcised. I and you're not the first
one that's gotten this butchered this thing. Actually my yes,
(10:50):
my my ex fye Angie, when she was in college,
she had friends ask that exact same question. Of course
they were dumb ass sorority girls. But nonetheless that's the
window you fall into. It has been asked before. Just
so we're clear, Jewish Men, we were the first ones, okay,
to get the cut. It's very much. That's how you
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could tell if somebody was Jewish.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It's very hot in that portion of the world, and
wearing turtlenecks is just too hot.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's just too hot. So who am I confusing it with?
Who's against circumcision?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Uh? European Christians? Yeah, Muslims.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I feel like a lot of Christians.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Though Muslims do not circumcise, all right, right, No.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
They definitely don't, but a lot of Christians in yes,
it may be more like continent based, but I feel
like a lot of Christians do get circumcised.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh in the United States, I mean super high. You
know it's done right there at birth. But again it's
not a religious ceremony, and it's a religious ceremony in
the in the temple.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, see, you guys learned something. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
Get to the Foxes and Now every day at this
time in the Votus podcast played for your previous portion
of Fox Sports Trider Fox Sports One Show, here's Colin Cowherd,
host of the talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Caitlyn Clark finished ninth in player voting. In fact, she
finished behind one of her own teammates in player voting.
The pettiness has no bounds. For years, the WNBA players
were pointing fingers. They were saying people are sexist, we're
not being promoted, we're underappreciated. And then they get the
Golden Goose and they don't like what it looks like
when the wave hits right it. They wanted to fly private,
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they wanted to be more popular. They wanted sold out
arenas they got it. I wouldn't have guessed that Caitlin
Clark would be this transformative.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Don't fight it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I do think we've reached the point to where it's
so clownish the behavior towards Kaitlyn Clark that it actually
makes Caitlin Clark more popular because I think last year,
I think not having gone on tm USA was a
massive mistake in terms of global popularity. But whatever. Like again,
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can't go back and fix that. But the more this happens,
the more it empowers people to like Oh, because we
are a nation of Contrians, right, we constantly want conspiracy theories.
We have a president who's told us that the news
is all fake, no matter how substantial it is. And
(13:34):
I think we like a lot of people's popularity is
just because they're unpopular in some form of fashion. I
think that's Caitlin Clark. Now I think she's reached that point.
It hurt her popularity on a global scale, and now
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it's actually helping her popularity but hurting the popularity of
the league. Here's the Patrick Tuck with the Knicks contacting
Don Staley about the head coaching job.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
They reached out to Don Staley, South Carolina head coach.
I'm sure she was flattered by that. But if I'm
Don Staley, I don't take the Knicks job. You got
a great situation there with South Carolina. Now, could it
be one of those landmark decisions where you want to
coach the Knicks coach in the NBA? Yeah, I thought
(14:24):
Becky Hammond's was going to get the San Antonio Spurs
job a couple of years ago. I thought Pop would
step to the side and allow that to happen. But
I don't know if Don Staley, you know, Don Staley runs,
She runs the ship there in South Carolina, you lose control.
A lot of these coaches can't coach in the NBA
because their control freaks. In college, you get to control,
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or at least you used to be able to control everything.
And if I'm Don Staley, as much as I'd love
to be that first, I don't know if I want
to deal with the NBA. You know you had j
right at Villanova. He wasn't interested in the Knicks coach
k flirted with the Lakers years ago. You know Danny Hurley,
(15:08):
Danny Hurley is not suited for the NBA IQ wise,
he is, but temperament dealing with these guys go ballistic
if they lose five games.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah yeah, I mean I don't think of that in
any way. I think Dan's perception of it there's some
truth to it, because obviously he's covered and knows the league.
But Don Staley would It's not about control. I don't
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think coaching in college appeals to people because control. What
appeals to Don Staley about college basketball is she has
better players than ninety five percent of the teams that
she plays against. You know, and you know she's a powerful,
powerful voice. When you get to the NBA, very few
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teams can say we have substantially better talent than the opponent.
You may be slightly better at one place, you may
have better time, you may may be at a talent disadvantage.
The coaching and the players are better than any place.
Is it with this without his challenge, it's not. But
she also like she makes I don't know, four malliaear
you coach the next. You can make ten maniaire so
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and you're coach the next. I don't think that the
the call to Don Staley was legitimate, Like they really
wanted to hire her. I think that's part of what
the NBA has pushed for probably a decade now. Right,
there's a woman on every staff, and some of them
have shown themselves to be really, really good. Some of
them have not, but it is part of how they
want to optically look. And she's the most or one
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of the two most successful coaches in female basket in
women's basketball, Geno being the other. And so it's a
smart called plus if you know anything, Like I wonder
if Leon Reptor before he became the president, so there's
a pre existing relationship there. But if the New York
Knicks want to hire you and you're the coach of
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South Carolina game Cocks and you didn't play at South Carolina,
they just gave you an opportunity, and you've won a
national championship and you make more money than anybody else,
she would have taken that job regards of whether or
not the NBA is not the easiest coach to league
to coach in the world. But do you think coach
coaching and women's college basketball is easy? You know, here's
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a woman who had taken South Carolina to being the
best team, winning a national championship, being dominant, and when
they got pasted a couple times this year, plenty of
people came out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
If the dog there's a question the needs an answer,
and the answer is if only there was someone with
the authority and the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Hey, Doug, you're uniquely qualified to answer this question that
I just thought of. This is actually a really good topic.
What do you think, as you've played at a high
level and now you've coached a D one program, what
do you think don Stally's first hurdle would be if
she were to coach an NBA team. Would the gender
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thing be the first hurdle? Or is there is it
go more nuanced than that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's a great question. I think it the gender thing
would be a hurdle. Look, the NBA is about respect.
It's about respect, right, everything's about respect. How people guard
you is about respect, how they handle you is about respect.
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And for coaches, in order to get the respect of
the players, you had to have coached in the league,
and hopefully one in the league or showing the players
at some other time that you know what you're doing
and then they buy in. That's kind of any level.
I just don't know the level of respect people would
(19:12):
have despite her immense amount of success in women's basketball,
and then you get to the the gender issue of it,
and I think it'd be a bit of a circus.
But yeah, you know, it's like it's like one of
those things. It's really hard to go, like, hey, we
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ran this in at South Carolina and women's basketball. It's
just the level of athlete is so different. The spacing
is different, the skill level is so much better. It
doesn't mean that they don't run some of the same actions,
but it's it's a different sport. It doesn't mean she
couldn't do it. But you asked what the first hurdle
would be, I think it would be the respect factor.
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And it's not just about the fact that she's a woman.
It's about the level that she's coached at it.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Because there was a movie made when Whoopi Goldberg was
acting career. Yeah, they hired a fan off the street, Eddie,
and a championship Doug.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
There were cameos and I think Donald Trump was in
that movie. I think he made a Cameo cut out there.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But yeah, yeah, no, Billy Crystal was the co star,
wasn't he? Was it Billy Crystal a ref?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Maybe it's a ref.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I wan't say he's a ref. Yeah, I seen that one.
I don't hate it, but I don't love it, and
I don't think again. You just here's the thing. If
you're gonna fire Tom Thibodeau, you better hire somebody who's
done better in the playoff. That's where the Mike Brown
thing leaves you scratch your head. Not because Mike Brown
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is not awesome, dude, Like I know Mike, he's awesome,
but his teams have not done well in the playoffs,
with exception of I think what his Lebron one team
went to the Eastern Conference finals, right, I think he
had won that went to the Eastern Coals. So I
don't know, but but he was part of He was
also part of the Warriors when they won a championship
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one year. So here's Rob Parker and kelvin Washington, the
odd couple talking about Giannis and Dame.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
And this makes it where it's more palatable easier to
take spoonful of medas sugar with the medicine to go
down easier for the fans, so he can say, hey,
I try, but look at the moves. Even you would
be mad if you were me to the fans. And
I think he's seeing also the stuff that's happened around
the NBA. He's seen the Rockets getting better. He seeing
the Nuggets getting better, He's seeing the Hawks getting better.
He's seeing some other teams make moves. And I think
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he's like, I got to get out of here. This
is my chance to do so because you mentioned it.
Listen him. I disagree with you totally. I think you've
totally misread this, okay, And I think totally I think
this is his way of being like he he has
his hands on it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
This is getting rid of Dame?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Yes, Damian Lillard in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Was a bust. It didn't work.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
It didn't work from day one. It never worked. And
the whole idea that he's not gonna play next year,
having him on a team where he's coming back from
an injury and not playing, that's not gonna help Giannis.
The only way that they did this is because and
they're willing to eat all of this money for Yannis.
He ain't going nowhere. He signed off on this.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I mean I would say there's a couple of
different parts to it. First thing is I actually agree
with Rob here. I'm not a like. From this point forward,
Damian Lillard's star head started to the shine, it started
to wear off of it. It doesn't mean you don't
want him on your team, but you have no idea
what his role is going to be when he comes back. Right,
(22:50):
You're talking mid thirties, undersized, offensive minded guard who doesn't defend,
doesn't finish at the rim great, and is very likely
to be a slightly lesser athlete than he was, not
just because of age, but because he's coming off and
to kill his tendon. I even think for teams that
sign him, do I like the idea of signing him
when he sits for a year, so it pushes them.
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He's around a team he can be, he can he
can get to the culture of it. Like. Yeah, but
I also don't know what he's gonna look like when
he comes back or how effective he'll be. That's what
the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Let's find out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, deserve congratulations. They won the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
The mid season w NBA Cup? And we got to
see what's her face? What's the new fever name? Blonde? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Sophie?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You mean Sophie. Sophie's stunning, Sophie stunning. Afterwards they're celebrating
like they want a title, w NBA Commissioner's Cup, Old
Kathy's Cup. It takes a lot to get me excited
about the actual championship. I just thinking about right now.
I don't even know who won the championship last fall,
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so I don't know how excited we should be about
the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, I mean this is is uh what's the what's
the NBA Cup called? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think it's called the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They have a Commissioner's Cup too, Yeah, I don't know.
It did give us Sophie Kenningham Twerking, So I kind
of think that's a win for America. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They did get I do get five hundred thousand dollars
and for someone earning a w NBA salary, I know
that they do endorse. Yeah, five hunred thousand dollars distributed to
the team. I hope Kaylyn Clarks and she didn't play,
gave her portion away to her teammates. But you know
there's something at stake there, you know, especially for making
like ninety thousand a year in the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, it's like, I actually think you kind of nail
it that. You know, if you if you do five
hundred thousand to a WNBA player.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Well it's split amongst the team. Yeah, how many rights?
Speaker 9 (25:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I know, but again like that actually, like you said,
that actually means something. Whereas the NBA players, they're so
priced out of anything meaningful it's kind of dumb.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And do I hear you? Right? You saw reporting that
Caitlyn Clark gave her share to no. No, I was
just saying she should since she didn't play. She's already
got million.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Because that's what Sam does. Sam's giving away other people's money.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's right, That's right. Yeah, I'm just saying she could
do it. It'd be a nice gesture she could have
to do.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I mean, the other side to it, Sam, is if
we're honest, people don't care at all about the Commissioner's Cup.
They definitely wouldn't care, and maybe the pot wouldn't be
that big if it wasn't for Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I don't know what it was a couple of years ago,
or if it even exists a few years ago. But
you know that half a million dollars spread out to
a team kind of like the basketball tournament, how they
would go for a million.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's a nice little payday, nice little bonus think about.
I mean, Sam's just making up news. So I'm going
to go with it about the the pr that she
would get if she did that, because it probably is
just a low percentage of her income. Yes, and she
would not only draw a love from her teammates, fur
(26:33):
their love, but the people that hated Caitlin Clark would
hate her even more. You know, they would just like
this would be something for them to be like, roll
my eyes. Not another great thing about this? Check? Oh man,
I need somebody in her inner circle needs to get
to her do that and make make that point of leaking.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It friends with her boyfriend, I can.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Please, Oh, my God and honor boys.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, his dad recruited me an other days, kind
of a fatherlike figure to me.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
So so you covered this on the radio show yesterday
and I just I googled it and I wanted to
get the details you had said that Stephen A. Smith
admitted out loud that he's looking forward to having less
(27:27):
NBA responsibilities next year. This was his exact quote to
the boardroom inside. The NBA is coming here, and nobody
can be happier than me, not just because those guys
are great, but it gives me what I believe to
be well earned relief. It's been a long time. I've
been covering the NBA for thirty years, and I'm going
to get somewhat of a reprieve to some degree in
(27:50):
that regard. Blah blah, blah blah. I can't believe the
balls on this guy, like you talk about unprofessional. If
I'm a somebody of any influence in ESPN's you know, hierarchy,
and I read them, my talent is saying out loud
(28:10):
what we saw with our own two eyes during the playoffs,
which is he's thoroughly bored with the NBA. Not only
do they do they have the rights to the NBA.
They pay a whole lot of money to it, and
their top talent that they paid ten million bucks a
year or two was acting like he was bored with it,
and then he confirms it in a quote to the
boardroom after the season, like the balls on this guy.
(28:33):
If anybody paid me ten million dollars to do anything,
I could never even come to the point where I
could admit something like this out loud.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, you know, it's the crazy thing. Is of the
things that he should go want to cut back on,
that's not it right now. I actually understand like his
true value where he is irreplaceable to ESPN. The reason
(29:03):
that they acquiesced and paid him all that money is
first take. Right Without him, there is no first take,
especially with Shannon being literally unhirable. I think that that
before they had to, you know, put Shannon on on ice.
My guess was their plan was to let him walk
and replace him with Shannon. But Shannon becomes unhiable, so, uh,
(29:29):
you know, I I actually would agree with the Hey,
you know, first take is my baby, That's my show.
Anything else is is sugar on top of it. Uh.
And you know, I think they also bought up his podcast,
you know, because they think there's value there. But it's
the why are you saying this out loud? Especially after
signing a contract? That is it's a little bit like, uh,
(29:55):
what's what's our guy with the Angels to won that
won the World's Series with the Nationals, who's been the
bane of our existence?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh? Yeah, what kind I think of his name? Ren
Don Rendon?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's a little rendon on you, Right, you
get the big contract and then you're like, yeah, I
really like doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's the what are they going to do? Fire me mentality?
I've already signed the contract. I could say something very
disrespectful to the craft and they can't do anything to me.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But the crazy thing, though, is like we we should
have seen this coming, at least you and I saw
this coming. But yeah, it's really it's really interesting. Everyone
else has reached their limit and had too much. Stephen A,
steven A has reached his limit, and yet they keep
putting him out on our.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Television like awful announcing. I've already quoted them, but they
had a brilliant headline to a story about steven A
during the playoffs America shouldn't have to suffer through Steven
A's boredom of the NBA. It is such a brilliant headline,
and it was true. Like every time he started talking
about the NBA, You're like, it's like he's kind of
(31:07):
like half glancing at his phone, you know, seeing if
he's getting a text from Chris Cuomo to come on
and talk shit about the Democrats or something like. It
was just this distracted nature to everything he said, and
then he confirms it to the boardroom. It's amazing that
he could do that. But anyways, so the reading of
(31:27):
the teleprompter. I'm ramping this up for you because I
know you have thoughts. So Travis Kelcey was on some
podcasts and he said that his the time that he
was a guest on SNL went a little rough, especially
during the monologue, because he can't read very well and
the teleprompter is really hard. So you tell the story
(31:50):
all the time about the time that you filled in
for Jim Romans burning, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But I don't think I told the story about about
my first time reading teleprompter. There's video out there somewhere.
So two thousand, I graduated from college. I play in
the NBA Summer League. I played in the USBL, the
NBA USBL, then get married, play in the NBA Summer League,
actually Summer League, then married. I was supposed to play overseas,
(32:19):
and I got cut from my team in Italy because
I couldn't get in ISRAELI passport unless I lived in
Israel for a year. I didn't want to live in
Israel for a year. I played that year as an American. Anyway,
I come back, I go to the CBA, beat out
(32:39):
thirteen guys, and then I get cut the day before
the season starts. So I'm in Oklahoma and I'm filling
in local radio and I got a chance to do
an audition at I think it's the CBS station in Tulsa.
Al Jerkins was the sports director. It was kind of
as a favor, but you know, I was a name,
(33:01):
and so they needed like a third guy the sports department.
So he's like, come in after ten o'clock news, we'll
have you do an audition. We'll throw you on camera.
So he throw me on camera and yeah, he's like,
I want you to read this teleprompter and you know,
you throw it to the highlight. I'd never done it
before in my life, and somewhere there's a tape that
(33:22):
exists only that I didn't. I didn't write it, so yeah,
I read it over once and then read it live
on teleprompter. I was horrific. Then fast forward to what
year was it that Lebron left and went to the heat.
I want to say that's like two thousand and ten. Yep,
(33:46):
I was guest hosting Roma's Burning I think in two
thousand and nine, and yeah, it's six minutes straight of
prompter sixtrame administrative prompter that's written by somebody else. And
to say I was good, And then I like, hey,
can you take the romanisms? Can you take the vocab?
(34:07):
Can you take the vocab off of this? You know,
A rauncha senchez pecario, a raunchy chick from the barrio, right,
That was back when they did nicknames. That was probably
my favorite one. Uh yeah, it's it's not easy if
you haven't done it before. It's like you get done,
you're like, maybe I can't read. That's that's what you
(34:28):
end up thinking.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, it's just not your trained skill set, like I
if you know, at Calcay Fortune we had a TV station.
Most broadcast programs in college have TV stations. If your
aspiration is to be a TV broadcaster, like you could
get your reps, but you just you didn't take that path.
So I could see we're reading the teleprompter to you
(34:50):
or Travis Kelce or anybody would be especially early on
in your career, would be it's a skill set. It's
a it's something that when.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's a learned skill, it it takes porn with because
you have to it's moving along.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, it's age, right, but you also need to have
somebody who you need to learn. You got to write
yourself or somebody who writes has to understand the the
way in which you speak, right that that that is
part of it as well. So there's there's layer two
layers to it. But yeah, it's a it is definitely
a learned skill. It's not something you're born with, or
at least I wasn't born with it.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
By the way, side, note, I'm watching the Rays beat
up on the A's right now, and I was thinking
recently about a classic romeism. So we used to refer
to Sacramento as Sacramento. So I'm I'm gonna start calling
I'm gonna put my own twist on it. The rays
right now are up six to two over the Sacramental ass.
(35:50):
If I if I coin that, nobody else could use it.
The Sacramental ass.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, you can use that one. I'll stay away from it.
You can use it.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Reading a teleprompter. Steven A just openly admitting that he's
bored with the NBA, and then the Commissioner's cup and
Caitlin Clark needs to give away your money, m.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Am, I allowed to tell the real story of the teleprompter?
Or or do I have to leave it on the
Do I have to leave that one in the cutting
room floor?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What I learned about Rome?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah? Whatever? Yeah, leave that, leave that, leave that alone.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You can read that a while.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Okay, Uh, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say
the teleprompter's annoying. And here's why. Again, I don't think
he's he was ever the best TV personality, and there's
lots of stuff that I disagree with in his life.
(36:47):
But have you ever seen the YouTube clips of Al
Sharpton versus the teleprompter? No?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
But that sounds wonderful.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh okay, I'm gonna give people a rabbit hole to
go down. I'll talk to you in about ten minutes.
The next time, you get ten minutes and you want
to feel either bad about the fact that you weren't
on TV because this guy was, or you just want
to laugh at somebody who quite obviously cannot read a teleprompter.
I want you to google Al Sharpton versus a teleprompter.
(37:18):
You're welcome. Meanwhile, teleprompters are annoyed.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
So I found this. Kevin Garnett was on his podcast
with Paul Pierce, and I don't even really care what
Kevin Garnett talks about. I just really I laugh at
what he says. And he can't go like three words
without cussing. So they were talking about Kevin Durant and
the criticism that he's not a vocal leader, and Kevin
Durant or Kevin Garnett started saying.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
This, it's all intentional. It's all from a great place
when we are being leaders. Some leaders like like my
dog here, he gonna go out and you gonna see
him just working. Then you're gonna see him go do waste,
and then you gonna see him playing one on one
and then he didn't, and you're just gonna be seeing him.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Doing, doing, doing, doing doing.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
He ain't gonna say shit, right, And if you ain't
on that same time, it'll do something to you because
it'll because he coming through it. You know, Hey, get
out the way.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Hey, I'm right here.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
You know what I'm saying. If you ain't on that
same energy and you ain't soaking that up, guess what,
man you behind because everybody in here trying to get it,
you know what I'm saying. But you see a motherfucker
come here. He first in here, he on the ladder,
then off the ladder, he lift the waist, then he
doing something with the trainer. Then also he doing. Bro,
Paul ain't gotta say shit. Paul's doing it. So Kate
is on that same shit. Bro, I ain't gotta say shit.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Why I canna play for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the In the Bonus podcast, you got the
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.
iHeart REDEO app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. So if you
listen to the radio show, you know we talked a
lot about Mike Brown be the next head coach, head
coach of the Knicks. It's interesting. We get some other
(00:35):
good stuff for you, but I wanted to start with
a story that it's it's really made waves on social media.
It's one that I had somebody had texted me about.
But I you know, it's like you get so many
texts in a day, and I had a lot of
stuff going on yesterday that I didn't pay attention. But
our group text for this show. Suddenly I think, Sam,
(00:58):
you started kind of focusing on it, and I was like, oh,
we got to talk about this. So okay. Jake Rhetz
laugh was the coach. It was the quarterback at b YU.
We had him on the show. First ever Jewish football
player at BUYU quarterback and had a great year for
the Cougars. What's the story.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So Jake Rhet's laugh.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh, sometime last year was accused by women of some
pretty grizzly things rape, strangulation, I believe, you know. And
and basically he was he was in trouble twofold. He
was in trouble with a lawsuit that came his way
accusing him of rape and through the school. Obviously BYU
has like the Mormon perspective, so honor code, honor code,
(01:38):
they frown on pre marital sex, so he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Count on it. You're you have to sign an honor code,
right and you have to say that I Am not
going to have alcohol, drugs, alcohol, pre marital sex while
I'm a student at BUYU.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So in summary, he was accused of violating all of that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
The the actually the rape lawsuit was dismissed yesterday or
in the last few days. But he's still If he
had stayed at BYU, he would have had to he
would have still been in violation of the honor code
having premiatal sex he said his consensual and he would
have had to sit out seven games. So he's in
the transfer portal. Now he's leaving, and you know, we
(02:17):
go to I shared you with you guys. A tweet
from the great message board geniuses. They take some of
these wacky ideas from fans and they amplify them, they
make fun of them. Basically, Jake, this person on message
boards message board geniuses was saying that Jake Retz laugh
was just a small cog, a small act in a
(02:37):
grander scheme for Utah Utes football to topple BYU football
in the state of Utah. And I'll just read this here.
So this is a message board genius. This is their
little caption that go urgent. It appears that Utah hashtag
Utah has sent an army of skanks to provo please
be alert and use caution. And this person's person on
(02:58):
a BYU message, uh, they said, uh, you know this
is this the you talking about Utah Utes. The U
is like the Soviet Union. One of the one of
the KGB's most developed schemes was the Honeypot. Many many
blackmail wins for them on that front during the Cold War.
It appears in the Brave New World of Tampering, the
(03:18):
Utes are going to employ similar schemes. B b YU
needs to inform its athletes that there are Ute co
ed's on the loose. They'll give you a venereal disease
and an honor code violation. My guess is what little
war chest Harlan has is going to go all in
on developing an army of skanks that will prowl around Provo.
(03:39):
So Jake Raetz laugh fell victim to uh, I guess
the alleged skanks on the loose in Provo tempting him
and getting him into some trouble uh with with the
with the school and his own We know that?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do we know that to be true?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What what I just read?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, I have no idea. It's message board.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's unbelievable message board fodder. It's the most diabolical shit
you've ever heard. Right, we sent it. We sent a
chick to go sleep with the BYU quarterbacks so he
get kicked out of school.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We sent fluozies from the University of Utah up to
Provo to tempt our quarterbacks, our players who are living
by an honor code that must not be violated. And
it's it's all an attempt to topple BYU football. I mean,
the the the the harsh feelings between those two schools
are real, are real.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They go back, they go back generations.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, which is it's that that part to it is okay,
so Chase do we Here's how I view these stories.
I don't know it's true, but I believe that there's
gotta be some truth in it, right, There's got to
be some sort of truth in it. Again, I don't
know if the woman he slept with is really a
(04:56):
plant from the University of Utah, but God, I wanted
to believe it's true because it just makes for a
better story. We root for great content, don'tly that's great content,
even if I also feel bad like Jaj's WRTT, Like,
I know he's not supposed to violate the Honor Code,
but I feel bad for him because I mean, it's
one thing to violate on our code. It's hardly to
(05:19):
be accused of some heinous rape situation which you didn't do,
while also violating the honor Code that you don't really
have to abide by, you know, in your own mind,
because you're like, well, I'm not Mormon, even though you
did sign the paper, regardless, you're not your Mormon.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I don't want to dismiss the woman's allegations, you know,
I do who We don't know, Doug, We don't know
no she has.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
He was never charged with a crime, and this civil
case has been dismissed, so there's no crime. We can
dismiss any allegations.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Sure, I'll buy I got you on that part.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Again, Like all we can go by is the district attorney.
And I continue to say this, there is not a
high bar for a civil case and for a criminal
case there's a higher bar. But it didn't cross any
of those two bars. And so yeah, there we can
dismiss any claim like line kakua level, but it's close.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
The amount of proof to uh, the amount of proof
to decide in someone's favor is smaller, right in a
civil case.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Looks like Dan Byer wants to weigh in. Dan Bayer
came in pressing for the show, and yeah, this is
just not getting my ears right.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And I know everything about message board geniuses, follow them
as well. I just want to say this because I
don't want anybody to get in the spot. And Doug,
I know what you're saying. With civil cases and whatnot.
It would be one thing if there was a Utah
group that said, look, this girl just goes around and
sleeps with all these BYU players to make them ineligible
(06:54):
to violate the honor Code. Completely different when you bring
rape in to the equation. So there was the allegation
of that. Now Doug as you know with who is
the basketball player and Saim maybe even you remember from
years back that ended up having premarital sex and was
kicked off the team. Like this is that is one
(07:17):
thing because of the violation of the honor Code. But
when you bring it in the rape allegation in whether
it be criminal or civil, I think we're at a
different level.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I'm down there. Brandon Davies was his name, Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And the crazy part about it is, I think again,
maybe we could maybe we could look. I'm pretty sure
Brandon Davey ended up marrying the woman who he admitted
to sleeping with who I don't know if she was
on the volleyball team. Like they've been married ever since.
So it was a crazy thing. He got kicked off
(07:52):
the team in the NCA term when they had Jay,
when they had Jimmer fordet because he had premarital sex.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
So that's just like that would be one level. But
when it like that, this is not that And I
think that's the point of the message board is that
look at how ridiculous or the whole point of message
board geniuses is to say, look at how ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Some of these theories are. Yes, and that was that
was ended up being one of them.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's a funny. It's a funny, ridiculous thing. And yeah,
I'm not I'm not trying to dismiss the seriousness of
if actual rape had occurred. I'm it's just this person
put this out there. And maybe this person was just
trolling us and having a good time, or they might
believe it. But either way, it's just ridiculous and absurd
and funny.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It is ridiculous, it is absurd, it is funny. It's
all of those things I have.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I have just one the only thing I keep thinking
about with this story every time it comes up, and
I haven't been able to say it on the air,
and I could. I'm free to say it here, which
is great. So just could you confirm a couple of
things Sam, as you walk away from the microphone. The
quarterback is Jewish? Yes, it's correct. Quarterback is Jewish. And
(09:02):
he was going to be why you Church of Latter
day Saints. You know there's a conflict there the only thing,
the only question I have is does b why you
have uh an issue with uncircumcised penises?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You do know that Jewish people are the ones that
have their peace is circumcised. First?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh okay, so let's issue. You actually got circumcised.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You actually got you actually got that one in reverse?
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
No? No, so Jewish Jewish people do believe in circumcision.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, yeah, they were like we were the first, We
were the first ones.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, so I got the exact opposite. Yes, are you
going off the Friends episode? I think? So, okay, that's
what I thought. Why did I think that the Jewish
guys keep their keep their stuff uncut?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
No, we don't do tartlenicks.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I was gonna say. I think everybody at Bou, including
Ret's laugh all, has no turtle neck. I just probably
no turtal. It's very hot. That's not that's not true.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's just my guess that that's again, that's a completely
uneducated guess.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, they are, they are. They do echo or reflect
some things from Christianity. So right, Christianity Mormonism are two
different things. But I think that some of the customs are.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Christianity is not is not necessarily pro circumcision. It's not
usually euro guy euro guy is Yeah, it's actually a
rabbi performed a moile performs the circumcision. We were the
first to get circumcised. I and you're not the first
one that's gotten this butchered this thing. Actually my yes,
(10:50):
my my ex fye Angie, when she was in college,
she had friends ask that exact same question. Of course
they were dumb ass sorority girls. But nonetheless that's the
window you fall into. It has been asked before. Just
so we're clear, Jewish Men, we were the first ones, okay,
to get the cut. It's very much. That's how you
(11:11):
could tell if somebody was Jewish.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It's very hot in that portion of the world, and
wearing turtlenecks is just too hot.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's just too hot. So who am I confusing it with?
Who's against circumcision?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Uh? European Christians? Yeah, Muslims.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I feel like a lot of Christians.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Though Muslims do not circumcise, all right, right, No.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
They definitely don't, but a lot of Christians in yes,
it may be more like continent based, but I feel
like a lot of Christians do get circumcised.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh in the United States, I mean super high. You
know it's done right there at birth. But again it's
not a religious ceremony, and it's a religious ceremony in
the in the temple.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, see, you guys learned something. It's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
Get to the Foxes and Now every day at this
time in the Votus podcast played for your previous portion
of Fox Sports Trider Fox Sports One Show, here's Colin Cowherd,
host of the talking about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Caitlyn Clark finished ninth in player voting. In fact, she
finished behind one of her own teammates in player voting.
The pettiness has no bounds. For years, the WNBA players
were pointing fingers. They were saying people are sexist, we're
not being promoted, we're underappreciated. And then they get the
Golden Goose and they don't like what it looks like
when the wave hits right it. They wanted to fly private,
(12:40):
they wanted to be more popular. They wanted sold out
arenas they got it. I wouldn't have guessed that Caitlin
Clark would be this transformative.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Don't fight it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I do think we've reached the point to where it's
so clownish the behavior towards Kaitlyn Clark that it actually
makes Caitlin Clark more popular because I think last year,
I think not having gone on tm USA was a
massive mistake in terms of global popularity. But whatever. Like again,
(13:14):
can't go back and fix that. But the more this happens,
the more it empowers people to like Oh, because we
are a nation of Contrians, right, we constantly want conspiracy theories.
We have a president who's told us that the news
is all fake, no matter how substantial it is. And
(13:34):
I think we like a lot of people's popularity is
just because they're unpopular in some form of fashion. I
think that's Caitlin Clark. Now I think she's reached that point.
It hurt her popularity on a global scale, and now
(13:55):
it's actually helping her popularity but hurting the popularity of
the league. Here's the Patrick Tuck with the Knicks contacting
Don Staley about the head coaching job.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
They reached out to Don Staley, South Carolina head coach.
I'm sure she was flattered by that. But if I'm
Don Staley, I don't take the Knicks job. You got
a great situation there with South Carolina. Now, could it
be one of those landmark decisions where you want to
coach the Knicks coach in the NBA? Yeah, I thought
(14:24):
Becky Hammond's was going to get the San Antonio Spurs
job a couple of years ago. I thought Pop would
step to the side and allow that to happen. But
I don't know if Don Staley, you know, Don Staley runs,
She runs the ship there in South Carolina, you lose control.
A lot of these coaches can't coach in the NBA
because their control freaks. In college, you get to control,
(14:48):
or at least you used to be able to control everything.
And if I'm Don Staley, as much as I'd love
to be that first, I don't know if I want
to deal with the NBA. You know you had j
right at Villanova. He wasn't interested in the Knicks coach
k flirted with the Lakers years ago. You know Danny Hurley,
(15:08):
Danny Hurley is not suited for the NBA IQ wise,
he is, but temperament dealing with these guys go ballistic
if they lose five games.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah yeah, I mean I don't think of that in
any way. I think Dan's perception of it there's some
truth to it, because obviously he's covered and knows the league.
But Don Staley would It's not about control. I don't
(15:42):
think coaching in college appeals to people because control. What
appeals to Don Staley about college basketball is she has
better players than ninety five percent of the teams that
she plays against. You know, and you know she's a powerful,
powerful voice. When you get to the NBA, very few
(16:07):
teams can say we have substantially better talent than the opponent.
You may be slightly better at one place, you may
have better time, you may may be at a talent disadvantage.
The coaching and the players are better than any place.
Is it with this without his challenge, it's not. But
she also like she makes I don't know, four malliaear
you coach the next. You can make ten maniaire so
(16:30):
and you're coach the next. I don't think that the
the call to Don Staley was legitimate, Like they really
wanted to hire her. I think that's part of what
the NBA has pushed for probably a decade now. Right,
there's a woman on every staff, and some of them
have shown themselves to be really, really good. Some of
them have not, but it is part of how they
want to optically look. And she's the most or one
(16:53):
of the two most successful coaches in female basket in
women's basketball, Geno being the other. And so it's a
smart called plus if you know anything, Like I wonder
if Leon Reptor before he became the president, so there's
a pre existing relationship there. But if the New York
Knicks want to hire you and you're the coach of
(17:13):
South Carolina game Cocks and you didn't play at South Carolina,
they just gave you an opportunity, and you've won a
national championship and you make more money than anybody else,
she would have taken that job regards of whether or
not the NBA is not the easiest coach to league
to coach in the world. But do you think coach
coaching and women's college basketball is easy? You know, here's
(17:34):
a woman who had taken South Carolina to being the
best team, winning a national championship, being dominant, and when
they got pasted a couple times this year, plenty of
people came out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
If the dog there's a question the needs an answer,
and the answer is if only there was someone with
the authority and the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Hey, Doug, you're uniquely qualified to answer this question that
I just thought of. This is actually a really good topic.
What do you think, as you've played at a high
level and now you've coached a D one program, what
do you think don Stally's first hurdle would be if
she were to coach an NBA team. Would the gender
(18:23):
thing be the first hurdle? Or is there is it
go more nuanced than that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's a great question. I think it the gender thing
would be a hurdle. Look, the NBA is about respect.
It's about respect, right, everything's about respect. How people guard
you is about respect, how they handle you is about respect.
(18:51):
And for coaches, in order to get the respect of
the players, you had to have coached in the league,
and hopefully one in the league or showing the players
at some other time that you know what you're doing
and then they buy in. That's kind of any level.
I just don't know the level of respect people would
(19:12):
have despite her immense amount of success in women's basketball,
and then you get to the the gender issue of it,
and I think it'd be a bit of a circus.
But yeah, you know, it's like it's like one of
those things. It's really hard to go, like, hey, we
(19:33):
ran this in at South Carolina and women's basketball. It's
just the level of athlete is so different. The spacing
is different, the skill level is so much better. It
doesn't mean that they don't run some of the same actions,
but it's it's a different sport. It doesn't mean she
couldn't do it. But you asked what the first hurdle
would be, I think it would be the respect factor.
(19:54):
And it's not just about the fact that she's a woman.
It's about the level that she's coached at it.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Because there was a movie made when Whoopi Goldberg was
acting career. Yeah, they hired a fan off the street, Eddie,
and a championship Doug.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
There were cameos and I think Donald Trump was in
that movie. I think he made a Cameo cut out there.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But yeah, yeah, no, Billy Crystal was the co star,
wasn't he? Was it Billy Crystal a ref?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Maybe it's a ref.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I wan't say he's a ref. Yeah, I seen that one.
I don't hate it, but I don't love it, and
I don't think again. You just here's the thing. If
you're gonna fire Tom Thibodeau, you better hire somebody who's
done better in the playoff. That's where the Mike Brown
thing leaves you scratch your head. Not because Mike Brown
(20:49):
is not awesome, dude, Like I know Mike, he's awesome,
but his teams have not done well in the playoffs,
with exception of I think what his Lebron one team
went to the Eastern Conference finals, right, I think he
had won that went to the Eastern Coals. So I
don't know, but but he was part of He was
also part of the Warriors when they won a championship
(21:10):
one year. So here's Rob Parker and kelvin Washington, the
odd couple talking about Giannis and Dame.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
And this makes it where it's more palatable easier to
take spoonful of medas sugar with the medicine to go
down easier for the fans, so he can say, hey,
I try, but look at the moves. Even you would
be mad if you were me to the fans. And
I think he's seeing also the stuff that's happened around
the NBA. He's seen the Rockets getting better. He seeing
the Nuggets getting better, He's seeing the Hawks getting better.
He's seeing some other teams make moves. And I think
(21:41):
he's like, I got to get out of here. This
is my chance to do so because you mentioned it.
Listen him. I disagree with you totally. I think you've
totally misread this, okay, And I think totally I think
this is his way of being like he he has
his hands on it.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
This is getting rid of Dame?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Yes, Damian Lillard in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Was a bust. It didn't work.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
It didn't work from day one. It never worked. And
the whole idea that he's not gonna play next year,
having him on a team where he's coming back from
an injury and not playing, that's not gonna help Giannis.
The only way that they did this is because and
they're willing to eat all of this money for Yannis.
He ain't going nowhere. He signed off on this.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I mean I would say there's a couple of
different parts to it. First thing is I actually agree
with Rob here. I'm not a like. From this point forward,
Damian Lillard's star head started to the shine, it started
to wear off of it. It doesn't mean you don't
want him on your team, but you have no idea
what his role is going to be when he comes back. Right,
(22:50):
You're talking mid thirties, undersized, offensive minded guard who doesn't defend,
doesn't finish at the rim great, and is very likely
to be a slightly lesser athlete than he was, not
just because of age, but because he's coming off and
to kill his tendon. I even think for teams that
sign him, do I like the idea of signing him
when he sits for a year, so it pushes them.
(23:10):
He's around a team he can be, he can he
can get to the culture of it. Like. Yeah, but
I also don't know what he's gonna look like when
he comes back or how effective he'll be. That's what
the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Say. Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Let's find out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, deserve congratulations. They won the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
The mid season w NBA Cup? And we got to
see what's her face? What's the new fever name? Blonde? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Sophie?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You mean Sophie. Sophie's stunning, Sophie stunning. Afterwards they're celebrating
like they want a title, w NBA Commissioner's Cup, Old
Kathy's Cup. It takes a lot to get me excited
about the actual championship. I just thinking about right now.
I don't even know who won the championship last fall,
(24:28):
so I don't know how excited we should be about
the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, I mean this is is uh what's the what's
the NBA Cup called? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think it's called the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They have a Commissioner's Cup too, Yeah, I don't know.
It did give us Sophie Kenningham Twerking, So I kind
of think that's a win for America. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They did get I do get five hundred thousand dollars
and for someone earning a w NBA salary, I know
that they do endorse. Yeah, five hunred thousand dollars distributed to
the team. I hope Kaylyn Clarks and she didn't play,
gave her portion away to her teammates. But you know
there's something at stake there, you know, especially for making
like ninety thousand a year in the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, it's like, I actually think you kind of nail
it that. You know, if you if you do five
hundred thousand to a WNBA player.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Well it's split amongst the team. Yeah, how many rights?
Speaker 9 (25:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I know, but again like that actually, like you said,
that actually means something. Whereas the NBA players, they're so
priced out of anything meaningful it's kind of dumb.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And do I hear you? Right? You saw reporting that
Caitlyn Clark gave her share to no. No, I was
just saying she should since she didn't play. She's already
got million.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Because that's what Sam does. Sam's giving away other people's money.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's right, That's right. Yeah, I'm just saying she could
do it. It'd be a nice gesture she could have
to do.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I mean, the other side to it, Sam, is if
we're honest, people don't care at all about the Commissioner's Cup.
They definitely wouldn't care, and maybe the pot wouldn't be
that big if it wasn't for Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I don't know what it was a couple of years ago,
or if it even exists a few years ago. But
you know that half a million dollars spread out to
a team kind of like the basketball tournament, how they
would go for a million.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's a nice little payday, nice little bonus think about.
I mean, Sam's just making up news. So I'm going
to go with it about the the pr that she
would get if she did that, because it probably is
just a low percentage of her income. Yes, and she
would not only draw a love from her teammates, fur
(26:33):
their love, but the people that hated Caitlin Clark would
hate her even more. You know, they would just like
this would be something for them to be like, roll
my eyes. Not another great thing about this? Check? Oh man,
I need somebody in her inner circle needs to get
to her do that and make make that point of leaking.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It friends with her boyfriend, I can.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Please, Oh, my God and honor boys.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, his dad recruited me an other days, kind
of a fatherlike figure to me.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
So so you covered this on the radio show yesterday
and I just I googled it and I wanted to
get the details you had said that Stephen A. Smith
admitted out loud that he's looking forward to having less
(27:27):
NBA responsibilities next year. This was his exact quote to
the boardroom inside. The NBA is coming here, and nobody
can be happier than me, not just because those guys
are great, but it gives me what I believe to
be well earned relief. It's been a long time. I've
been covering the NBA for thirty years, and I'm going
to get somewhat of a reprieve to some degree in
(27:50):
that regard. Blah blah, blah blah. I can't believe the
balls on this guy, like you talk about unprofessional. If
I'm a somebody of any influence in ESPN's you know, hierarchy,
and I read them, my talent is saying out loud
(28:10):
what we saw with our own two eyes during the playoffs,
which is he's thoroughly bored with the NBA. Not only
do they do they have the rights to the NBA.
They pay a whole lot of money to it, and
their top talent that they paid ten million bucks a
year or two was acting like he was bored with it,
and then he confirms it in a quote to the
boardroom after the season, like the balls on this guy.
(28:33):
If anybody paid me ten million dollars to do anything,
I could never even come to the point where I
could admit something like this out loud.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, you know, it's the crazy thing. Is of the
things that he should go want to cut back on,
that's not it right now. I actually understand like his
true value where he is irreplaceable to ESPN. The reason
(29:03):
that they acquiesced and paid him all that money is
first take. Right Without him, there is no first take,
especially with Shannon being literally unhirable. I think that that
before they had to, you know, put Shannon on on ice.
My guess was their plan was to let him walk
and replace him with Shannon. But Shannon becomes unhiable, so, uh,
(29:29):
you know, I I actually would agree with the Hey,
you know, first take is my baby, That's my show.
Anything else is is sugar on top of it. Uh.
And you know, I think they also bought up his podcast,
you know, because they think there's value there. But it's
the why are you saying this out loud? Especially after
signing a contract? That is it's a little bit like, uh,
(29:55):
what's what's our guy with the Angels to won that
won the World's Series with the Nationals, who's been the
bane of our existence?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh? Yeah, what kind I think of his name? Ren
Don Rendon?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's a little rendon on you, Right, you
get the big contract and then you're like, yeah, I
really like doing this.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's the what are they going to do? Fire me mentality?
I've already signed the contract. I could say something very
disrespectful to the craft and they can't do anything to me.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But the crazy thing, though, is like we we should
have seen this coming, at least you and I saw
this coming. But yeah, it's really it's really interesting. Everyone
else has reached their limit and had too much. Stephen A,
steven A has reached his limit, and yet they keep
putting him out on our.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Television like awful announcing. I've already quoted them, but they
had a brilliant headline to a story about steven A
during the playoffs America shouldn't have to suffer through Steven
A's boredom of the NBA. It is such a brilliant headline,
and it was true. Like every time he started talking
about the NBA, You're like, it's like he's kind of
(31:07):
like half glancing at his phone, you know, seeing if
he's getting a text from Chris Cuomo to come on
and talk shit about the Democrats or something like. It
was just this distracted nature to everything he said, and
then he confirms it to the boardroom. It's amazing that
he could do that. But anyways, so the reading of
(31:27):
the teleprompter. I'm ramping this up for you because I
know you have thoughts. So Travis Kelcey was on some
podcasts and he said that his the time that he
was a guest on SNL went a little rough, especially
during the monologue, because he can't read very well and
the teleprompter is really hard. So you tell the story
(31:50):
all the time about the time that you filled in
for Jim Romans burning, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But I don't think I told the story about about
my first time reading teleprompter. There's video out there somewhere.
So two thousand, I graduated from college. I play in
the NBA Summer League. I played in the USBL, the
NBA USBL, then get married, play in the NBA Summer League,
actually Summer League, then married. I was supposed to play overseas,
(32:19):
and I got cut from my team in Italy because
I couldn't get in ISRAELI passport unless I lived in
Israel for a year. I didn't want to live in
Israel for a year. I played that year as an American. Anyway,
I come back, I go to the CBA, beat out
(32:39):
thirteen guys, and then I get cut the day before
the season starts. So I'm in Oklahoma and I'm filling
in local radio and I got a chance to do
an audition at I think it's the CBS station in Tulsa.
Al Jerkins was the sports director. It was kind of
as a favor, but you know, I was a name,
(33:01):
and so they needed like a third guy the sports department.
So he's like, come in after ten o'clock news, we'll
have you do an audition. We'll throw you on camera.
So he throw me on camera and yeah, he's like,
I want you to read this teleprompter and you know,
you throw it to the highlight. I'd never done it
before in my life, and somewhere there's a tape that
(33:22):
exists only that I didn't. I didn't write it, so yeah,
I read it over once and then read it live
on teleprompter. I was horrific. Then fast forward to what
year was it that Lebron left and went to the heat.
I want to say that's like two thousand and ten. Yep,
(33:46):
I was guest hosting Roma's Burning I think in two
thousand and nine, and yeah, it's six minutes straight of
prompter sixtrame administrative prompter that's written by somebody else. And
to say I was good, And then I like, hey,
can you take the romanisms? Can you take the vocab?
(34:07):
Can you take the vocab off of this? You know,
A rauncha senchez pecario, a raunchy chick from the barrio, right,
That was back when they did nicknames. That was probably
my favorite one. Uh yeah, it's it's not easy if
you haven't done it before. It's like you get done,
you're like, maybe I can't read. That's that's what you
(34:28):
end up thinking.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, it's just not your trained skill set, like I
if you know, at Calcay Fortune we had a TV station.
Most broadcast programs in college have TV stations. If your
aspiration is to be a TV broadcaster, like you could
get your reps, but you just you didn't take that path.
So I could see we're reading the teleprompter to you
(34:50):
or Travis Kelce or anybody would be especially early on
in your career, would be it's a skill set. It's
a it's something that when.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's a learned skill, it it takes porn with because
you have to it's moving along.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, it's age, right, but you also need to have
somebody who you need to learn. You got to write
yourself or somebody who writes has to understand the the
way in which you speak, right that that that is
part of it as well. So there's there's layer two
layers to it. But yeah, it's a it is definitely
a learned skill. It's not something you're born with, or
at least I wasn't born with it.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
By the way, side, note, I'm watching the Rays beat
up on the A's right now, and I was thinking
recently about a classic romeism. So we used to refer
to Sacramento as Sacramento. So I'm I'm gonna start calling
I'm gonna put my own twist on it. The rays
right now are up six to two over the Sacramental ass.
(35:50):
If I if I coin that, nobody else could use it.
The Sacramental ass.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, you can use that one. I'll stay away from it.
You can use it.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Reading a teleprompter. Steven A just openly admitting that he's
bored with the NBA, and then the Commissioner's cup and
Caitlin Clark needs to give away your money, m.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Am, I allowed to tell the real story of the teleprompter?
Or or do I have to leave it on the
Do I have to leave that one in the cutting
room floor?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Which one?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What I learned about Rome?
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah? Whatever? Yeah, leave that, leave that, leave that alone.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You can read that a while.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Okay, Uh, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say
the teleprompter's annoying. And here's why. Again, I don't think
he's he was ever the best TV personality, and there's
lots of stuff that I disagree with in his life.
(36:47):
But have you ever seen the YouTube clips of Al
Sharpton versus the teleprompter? No?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
But that sounds wonderful.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh okay, I'm gonna give people a rabbit hole to
go down. I'll talk to you in about ten minutes.
The next time, you get ten minutes and you want
to feel either bad about the fact that you weren't
on TV because this guy was, or you just want
to laugh at somebody who quite obviously cannot read a teleprompter.
I want you to google Al Sharpton versus a teleprompter.
(37:18):
You're welcome. Meanwhile, teleprompters are annoyed.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
So I found this. Kevin Garnett was on his podcast
with Paul Pierce, and I don't even really care what
Kevin Garnett talks about. I just really I laugh at
what he says. And he can't go like three words
without cussing. So they were talking about Kevin Durant and
the criticism that he's not a vocal leader, and Kevin
Durant or Kevin Garnett started saying.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
This, it's all intentional. It's all from a great place
when we are being leaders. Some leaders like like my
dog here, he gonna go out and you gonna see
him just working. Then you're gonna see him go do waste,
and then you gonna see him playing one on one
and then he didn't, and you're just gonna be seeing him.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Doing, doing, doing, doing doing.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
He ain't gonna say shit, right, And if you ain't
on that same time, it'll do something to you because
it'll because he coming through it. You know, Hey, get
out the way.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Hey, I'm right here.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
You know what I'm saying. If you ain't on that
same energy and you ain't soaking that up, guess what,
man you behind because everybody in here trying to get it,
you know what I'm saying. But you see a motherfucker
come here. He first in here, he on the ladder,
then off the ladder, he lift the waist, then he
doing something with the trainer. Then also he doing. Bro,
Paul ain't gotta say shit. Paul's doing it. So Kate
is on that same shit. Bro, I ain't gotta say shit.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Why I canna play for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the In the Bonus podcast, you got the
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