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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Who What up? Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox
Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in. So I had a
cool day Yesterday Saturday was recruiting, and yesterday Sunday I
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flew in Oklahoma and I got a chance to spend
most of the day with my daughter Grace, and then
the afternoon I spent at Matt Holiday's home, Matt and
Leslie Holiday's home in Stillwater where they're uh where their
son Ethan was the number four pick of the Major
League Baseball Draft. And you know, as we've had Matt
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on like, we're really good friends. They're amazing family, incredible people,
and uh, but it was to be on that side
of the aisle, if you will, right, I've covered I
forget how many it was. I think it was twelve
NBA drafts actually at the NBA, at the NBA Draft,
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and then four others on various networks. So I've done
the draft plenty, But the other side to it, and
baseball specifically right where they have basically it's like a
salary cap for just your draft picks, and so it's
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a negotiation that takes place before the guy's actually drafted,
which is part of the reason that he went for
even though he was raised as the number one prospect,
because you know, your agent says, hey, are we getting
the no full share? Well, you can actually get over that,
which I think you'll get with Colorado, Like I'm not
sure he won't be making more money at four than
he would have then the number one, number two pick
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are gonna make. But I mean the holidays, they do
a great job of keeping their kids kind of even.
And Ethan has I have a probably closest relationship of
his kids. I don't know Ethan or Grayson. Their their daughter,
Grayson is really she's a sweetheart. She's fifteen. And but
you know when you know this Chase dude, that I
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spent two years ago there, I was consulting with Oklahoma State,
and the holidays would like I try and stay at
hotel and they'd come to my hotel and like, no,
you're staying with us. So but that was, you know,
Jackson's first year as a pro and they were traveling
to see Jackson, and so I'd kind of man the
fort sometimes with Ethan and you know, we're up late
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at night. He's doing homework and I'm watching movies on
their sick TV set. So again, like, I got a
really good relationship with the kid, and he's an amazing
baseball player. But just to just to be a part
of that was really cool. And then you know, when
your dad was the head coach at Oklahoma State, he's
been a coach at a bunch of different schools, NC
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State and Texas as well as others. And then his
uncle is the that's his grandpa, sorry, and then his
uncle is the coach at Oklaham State. Now, obviously his
dad has been everything for him as like his hitting
coach since he was Yay high. And you know the
way it worked out where he doesn't get picked the
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first three picks, but then four and five is Colorado
and Saint Louis where his dad played. Like that whole
part of it was neat as well. So it's fun
to be a part of, really interesting, interesting to see
how in every sport your agent is as much or
as important part of the process as anything else. And
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then you know, I also thought it was pretty cool.
I mean, obviously he's a guy who his dad's been
everything for him, and having a dad myself who was
everything for me as a basketball player, you can obviously
relate to it, and you feel like, what an incredible
job that family has done, not just to have two
kids drafted, you know, in the top four picks in
the Major League Baseball draft, but when you meet Ethan
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and Jackson, you'll understand that they're they've been raised right
regardless to whether or not they're great baseball players. So
it was really fun, really fun, and I'm super thankful
to be around it, and I learned a ton, especially
about the baseball process, which is different than the basketball,
different than the than the NFL draft.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
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Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let's get both the Fox Says and Now Say every
day of this time. In the Bonus podcast on the
Doug Gatlib Show Fox Sports Radio, we play for you
a previous sports of a Fox Sports Radio or Fox
Sports One show. Here's Jason McIntyre talking about Lebron and
the report that multiple teams have inquired about trading for him.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I understand Lebron's pouting. He has a right to be
a little ticked off. Totally understandable. But at the same time,
he's got to be self aware and be like, oh,
I'm forty. Luca is, you know, in his prime mid twenties.
Of course they want to build around him Lebron. I listen,
you guys don't have a Lebron guy. And I had
a fun stat somebody hit me with. I totally forgot.
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Over the weekend, Lebron has been the MVP of the
finals on three different teams. That's an unbelievable accomplishment. Look
in American sports, it's difficult to find guys who have
been the championship game or series MVP for two teams.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Lebron's runned for three.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's another reason why he's the goat. Okay, anywhere he goes,
he wins, and I totally get that, and I get
what he's done, but it's about Luca now, and I
think Lebron's just got to understand that because sadly, Lebron,
you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know if he's not going anywhere again, but
I just think that none of those reports would got
out if not for the fact that Rich Paul wants
him out. And I think that this is one of
those they're trying to create. They're trying to create smoke.
You know, they're trying to create smoke. Four teams have
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touched base with Rich Paul about potentially trying to trade
for him, like that is a Rich Paul led story,
and then Lebron not wanted to talk, Like, you know,
there comes a point when you once he signed the
deal to pick up that player's option, he gave away
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any sort of power that he would have had, even
the reworking of the story. Right, there's a story on
ESPN when the team was sold that they contacted Lebron
and made him aware. And then there was the Ramona
Shelbourne story which said they didn't tell him, and it
was fairly obvious that Rich Paul was a big source
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of that story. You know, like dot don't get it twisted.
This is Rich Paul, who's an agent doing his best
to create noise. He did it the last time Lebron
was a free agent and he went to LA I
was working at a different network at the time, and
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I'll never forget there was this these stories coming out
that they could be going to another place. They could
be going to another place, and maybe maybe he was
la but maybe with san Antonio. And when you mentioned
san Antonio, you knew it was not a serious threat
because san Antonio the number one thing they've always said
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with Craig Popovich is you got to get over yourself.
And Lebron has had a lot of things. He's not
over himself. So do I think four teams talk to them? Yeah?
I mean, like sure, okay, the only reason that gets
out is because of Ridge Paul, and this is Ridge Paul.
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Is I just think he's misplaying a hand. Here here's
Jonas Knocks and Brady Quinn talking about the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
If you think about it, it's basically like if you
were just discover what is the home run Derby? A
guy stands up there with a bat, He gets slow
pitched and tries to hit a ball as far as
he possibly can, over and over and over and over.
It seems like the most boring thing in the world.
And it's awesome. It's awesome every year, and you could listen.
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You can make some stars out of it. But like
the Dunk Contest, it feels like it's kind of run
its course. The Home Run Derby please don't ever go away.
I think it's phenomenal and it's coming.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
But they've got some changes in gimmicks to it, like
the clock and the different colored ball and all that.
I mean, they try to spice it up a bit.
I just I think what they need to do is
let the guys go on to cycle steroids. Like six
weeks before this we're participating, there was never a more
fun home run Derby than the more gwire Sosa era.
Like those guys holding toothpicks their forearms, they are so
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jacked and every ball they touched you like that could
go out.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I mean I've been. I was over the Home
Run Derby a long long time ago, and the fact
that we're trying to figure out different ways to get
people to watch it, and as boring as it can
be on TV, in person, it's way worse now. Congrats
to Major League Baseball because they've made nothing into something right,
They've made their own kind of slam dunk contest night
be somewhat interesting, but I disagree greatly. Like the art
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of the home run is a pitcher's trying to get
you out and you hit it yard. Not I'm going
to serve up a tater and you're gonna take it yard.
So I'd never been a big home run derby guy.
It has been at times the best part of All
Star weekend, but that speaks more to All Star Week
than anything else. Here's buyer Mike Harmon talking about the
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controversy surround him Jacob Ezrawski.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
This is a popularity contest, and I would argue that
Jacob Mizerowski has been one of the ten players in
Major League Baseball that we've talked about the most for
the first half of the season.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Right go back to his first start when he was
falling off the mound. Rd Clayton Kershaw joked about it,
you know, in their matchup, and then he went and
watched him and he was like, Wow, okay, pitch for pitch,
he's everything. Four and one, five starts, two eight one
e thirty three strikeouts in twenty five and two thirds
in it.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And Mike, I'm not trying to toot my own horn,
but every year when we get to July, this is
the third straight year I've said major League Baseball and
I said it this past week needs to have a
spot for a young player on it, and it started
with Ellie d la Cruz a couple of years ago
when he opted to the Majors and it was all
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that we could talk about Highlight after highlight, Paul Skeins
ended up making it and starting last year, nobody had
a problem with that. Obviously, Misowski's sample size is extremely low,
but he's who we've talked about over the last month.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I agree, I'm not that bad. Like I've never thought
that the All Star Game should be about the first
half of the year, but I do understand that All
Star Game is does reserve a spot for people who
have been unbelievable first half of the year unbelievable. There's
three different elements to it, right, There's first half of
the year. There's the last calendar year and I even
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think that can count last year's playoffs. And then there's
like a career, Like for a great career, you're almost
always kind of grandfathered in, right, like a Derek Jeter
would always always be in the All Star Game, even
when he wasn't playing great first half of the year.
And Misowski does at least check one of those boxes.
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And yeah, it is the idea of selling. We got
some great young talent in the pipeline in Major League Baseball.
That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
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Speaker 2 (12:15):
Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Hey, Doug, you know what's annoying is that Caitlin Clark
lost the ability to shoot efficiently. It's getting less interesting
to watch for me. I know, you know out there,
people like Sam are encouraged by the fact that the
Fever are winning. I've been very clear from the very beginning.
I don't give a shit about the Indiana Fever's success.
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I need to see logo threes. I need to see
her breaking people down, dominating, putting it in their face,
and shooting woe, whether it's injury related mental. Maybe he
goes back to that notorious tweet that you had about
her her Maybe her shot needs to be fixed. But
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I'm losing patience and watching a bunch of women play basketball.
That's annoying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean, I think there's a couple levels to it. One,
obviously she gets she gets beaten up, and they're able
to be physical with her too. I pointed out, I thought,
and I do think that she's adjusted some. Her release
point on her shot is fine, but the kind of
the wind up had been, she'd been pushing it. But
I also think that, you know, this is the difference
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between her and Steph Curry. Okay, what changed with Steph
Curry and becoming the greatest shooter we've ever seen? And
the shot selection is those shots that we were that
we were talking about Steph taking. It wasn't that people
couldn't take them and couldn't make them previously, is that
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they wouldn't because they were such low percentage shots. He
shoots a higher percentage on tougher shots than anybody we've
ever seen. And what she's shooting is more representative of
how it's kind of always been. So yeah, I do,
I you know, I think that's what it's about. I
think One, it should give a little bit more credit
to Steph Curry too. It brings back kind of reality
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of what those shots are really like. And three, it
shows that she just not has not yet gotten to
the place to where she can separate herself and take
better shots and get better looks and thus shoot a
better percentage.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Yeah, there was a the uh, there was like a
forty five seconds of this season that were incredible. Remember
she made like three straight logo threes from against an
I guess against a pretty good team at the end
of a first quarter, and that was it. That's been
her season for me as far as I know. That's
not good. So on two on Saturday, I saw that
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Barry Bonds is throwing out the first pitch. We talked
about this a couple of weeks ago. They're going to
probably put a statue up Sosa. Sammy Soso went back
to Wrigley to a standing ovation. I wrote on Twitter,
I want to I got. I got a bunch of responses,
but I want to touch on a couple. I said,
that's too bad. A disturbing trend here. Baseball is starting
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to forgive the faces of the steroids now in I
guess in modern terms, I guess I've been ratioed. There's
twenty likes and then twenty comments, though the twenty comments
aren't all negative, so maybe I haven't been ratioed on
my own tweet. So I want to point out a
couple of them here, Julian Garcia, baseball is just thinking
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those who saved the sport and made them millions, billions.
They're just thinking the guys that were morally corrupt, that
made decisions to better their bank accounts because it just
coincidingly made them billions a dollar. So they're just they're
thanking those guys for doing the sacrifice and making much
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more money than they ever would have when they weren't
taking steroids. Okay, and then, of course the old refrain,
my favorite Rick Walker says, it wasn't against the rules
at the time, and I'm going I'm going to do
this one more time. It's not that it wasn't against
the rules. It was against the rules in society, illicit
drugs that gets you up to a year in prison,
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it's against the rules. It's just that the players negotiated,
they collectively bargained that they couldn't be tested for them.
There's a difference between it not being against the rules
and not being able to be tested for them. That's
a common refrain with this steroid era. Wasn't against the
rules in baseball.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Wasn't against rules is bullshit? They disin'test for it. And
if anybody says, well they were clean, all you got
to do to clear your name is allow the physicals.
Because you take a physical every year. Allow those physicals
to be seen by whomever you'd like. Because when you
take a physical, the insurance, the life insurance and the
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contract insurance that you have did blood and did urine
and so they have that. And if you were on steroids,
it would have popped on there, you know. Anyway, Yes,
it's I'm with you. It's a super frustrat Like I
just I think you ruin baseball. I mean, even you
hear we did this in what the Fox says, You're like, well,
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I liked it when guys were shacked up on steroids,
like did you? It was artificial reality. It's artificial reality.
It's just as bad as watching baseball. That way, it's
just as bad for your human brain as watching porn.
Is right, that's not reality. You can't go to the
copier at your place of work, flirt with, flirt with
a woman you work with, and next thing you know,
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you're having sex in the copier Like that does it
does not happen. In twenty twenty five, it's very likely
not happened since the nineteen seventies, and maybe even then
it didn't happen. The point is that it is the
sense of well, that's really work. No, it's not. No,
it's actually that I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
And also one more thing, Uh, here's another one. They
were all on Royd's why single out Bonds? Okay, here's
here's the reason. He hit seventy three home runs. He
bastardized the game. He supposedly passed Hank Aaron. He's the
of the poster children of the steroid era. He's the
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biggest violator, and most importantly, he's never acknowledged or apologized
or admitted anything, and we all know he was doing it.
So yeah, Bonds deserves to be singled out. To be honest,
he he was the one who bastardized the entire thing.
And then so this Lebron thing that you just got
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done talking about, I'm just gonna repeat repeat my uh
my point on this again. This report over the weekend
about hey, there are teams that are looking to trade,
and then you have this entire city of basketball fans
being like, what what does this have to do with us?
Or is he trying to force like a buyout is there?
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Like what about us? What about our emotional connection with
the Wakers? Doesn't doesn't Lebron care about us?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (19:28):
The answer is no. Every single week that comes out
of Richepaul's camp, the fans are never in consideration.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Couldn't agree with you more, couldn't agree with you, and
and it's it's there is there's a lot of Trump
to it there. There just is. I know they're on
opposite size of the political spectrum, but there's a lot
of Trump to it where it's the same thing like Trump.
Trumpers are like, don't you canny care about us? Like no, No,
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never has same thing with Lebron. Like there are people
that will Lebron has always been treated poorly. Is better
than Jordan. It's like that sort of we're in this
weird place where everybody's support is sort of blinders and
almost cultish and you, No, he doesn't care about you,
not at all.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
I think that there's a it's not only a thing
if it's a stretch to say that. The reason for
the uh, the decrease and interest in the NBA. And
I'm talking about the regular season, you know, the decrease
and interest in the NBA. There are many reasons for
that that we've talked about extensively. But how about this.
The most famous athlete in the world has zero connection
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with the fans of the team that he plays for.
Look into the symptoms of that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's it's not that different than college basketball. Right when
college basketball and guys are they don't go to class
on campus. Ours ours do, but they don't go to
class on campus, okay, and they don't live on campus,
and many of them are only at that school for
nine months, playing one year. It's like there's no connection. Right.
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It's the same thing with Lebron, like no connection with
those fans. And most teams are like that. The Warriors
are an exception with keeping staff right and keeping Draymond,
but most of those are exceptions. I think you point
out something that's very, very smart.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I think that the whenever you say that we say
that the college kids are in for one one season
and out, I think about, what's his face's character on
fast times with Richmond High, when the other students are
like I thought they just flew him in for games
at Jefferson High. What was his name?
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (21:45):
I forget anyways, Whittaker or something something.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
At anyways, So Jefferson was the guy? Was his name? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah? So Lebron, James Caitlin Clark not doing good and
uh Bonds and the steroid era.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
In terms of annoying, I would say Bonds in the
steroid era and how we're just get either bored, worn
down or forget. You know, if you got a sixteen
on the SAT fifteen years ago, would we celebrated today?
If you cheated to get you'd like no? Then why
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do we do it with Barry Bonds? So Barry Bonds sycophants,
you are annoying?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
All right?
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Jake Paul was on recently had a great SoundBite with
Pierce Morgan, and like I said, I don't know how
he is as a fighter, I don't know or care,
but he's very quick to the draw verbally, and I
think this part of his appeal. You have to wait
for the you have to wait for it. At the
end here it is a it's a woke reporter asking
why there aren't card guys, card boys? Why are there
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just card girls? It's exploitive? You know, women are are objectified?
Why aren't there card boys? So if you think in
your mind as you're listening to this, you're gonna have
a a fight. Representative talking and then Jake Paul's got
the punch on at the end. But Jake Paul the
entire time is shaking his head or he has his
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head in his hands that he's actually being asked this question.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Polzation of women want well, A couple of people have
said that white white don't have boys or none of
any any of them at all. I just want to
I want to bring to the attention and the conversation
of it. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Anybody wants to send in an application to be a
ring boy to m VP, send it to that young man, send.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It to fucking Kamala Harris. I don't I don't really
understand the Kamala Harris thing, but whatever, Yeah, I price
is right having having uh what do they call it
Bob's Beauties? But then they change the name now because
they have they have dudes as well.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Do you know that I think I was aware of that.
I know buyer is aware of it. I don't know
if I don't know if I was aware of it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, why can we play it for you? Because we can't.
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