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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I was watching Dodgers Red Sox
over the weekend and the Red Sox were wearing yellow uniforms.
And I'm sure there's a good, good reason, Like jac
you can hop on and tell me their throwbacks to
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some foregone era or whatever. But like your Major League Baseball,
you have the Boston Red Sox and the LA Dodgers, Like,
why is this so hard? And if the argument is, hey, hey, bucco,
our marketing guys are smarter than you, they've calculated that
that is a series everybody pays attention to, and so
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people will pay attention attention to it. So if you
want to sell more jerseys, that's the time to do it.
It sounds great, but there is a moment which one
you say to yourself, you know, I still think you'd
sell a lot of Red Sox traditional Red Sox jerseys
if you wore them and everybody's paying attention to the series.
And secondly, who fucking cares? Sometimes about making money? Sometimes
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you gotta go. It's the Red Sox and the Dodgers.
I mean, the uniforms are as iconic as the franchises
and the stadiums in which they play. Why stop letting
the marketing guys decide shit which affects kind of the
the the pristine visual. Am'm making sense, Yeah, of course
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I'm making sense. It's like the Boston Celtics in the
NBA Finals. They should never wear the black jerseys. Why
because of the fucking Boston Celtics. Where the Greens sells
cuts across the front where the whites says, you know
where the Greens they say Boston right where the whites
they say Celtics.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Don't wear alternative uniforms because you're trying to sell uniforms.
There is a moment in which the visual well the
visual nostalgia is more important than the bottom dollar. Not always,
not most of the time, but sometimes, and that is
one of those times.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I honestly, you know, they wore the Greens on Friday
night too, So two out of the three games this
weekend were all way alternative jerseys. You're right, you have
two historic franchises playing each other, and you choose then
to switch it up because gen Z has ADHD and
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you can't do a uniform more than one time in
a row. And then there's like this thing like I
reject the premise that they wear all these these jerseys
so that they could sell more jerseys. I just the
other day I went to the Dodger game. There was
a maroon, a maroon Dodger cap maroon. Now I know
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for a fact that Dodgers have never worn that on
the field, yet somebody found it on wherever they get
their fanatics or wherever they get their hats. Like you
can get just about any color or any style on fanatics,
Like you don't need to watch it and then go
and buy it. So it's like, I just have no
idea why they did this. It was infuriating the entire
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time for two straight games.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yep, two straight games in which I felt like, it
is two straight swings, missus. It's the Red Sox and
the Dodgers. It's not that hard. The Red Sox where
their whites, the Dodgers wear their grays, and we move on.
If you want to do alternative, maybe they could do
their blues on a Sunday. But I still think you
just do the whites and the grays like you've always
done for one hundred and fifty fucking years.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
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Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
We are in the post truth world. I think that's
what it's been called ever since Trump one point zero
post truth? Does the truth matter anymore? Do you know
if you're getting the truth from the most authoritative sources?
Post truth world. I say this because doctor Willard Maxwell
Junior is a pastor. I know you don't know who
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he is, but he's one of the most unique and
innovative personalities in today's leadership landscape. He has a podcast.
It's called Bring the Smoke. Do Not Confuse it with
All the Smoke with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Bring
the Smoke with Doctor Willard Maxwell. He's got an interesting
theory on what happened with Doug Williams at the end
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of his career.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Well Black quarterback Doug Williams beats to breaks off always.
You don't never see no thirty but thirty right, And
so Doug Williams every time he throws the ball, great kids.
Every time Alway throws the ball, great throat. He saw
seeing it, nuances in the different stuff. So then he
wins by land slide. His family celebrates him for two weeks.
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Then his family comes and have a intervention with him,
although nothing's wrong with him, And they said, we're just
gonna be here for you whenever you want us to
be here, when we're gonna be a beat this he said.
Why he said, No, theyin't gonna leys play the NFL
no more. Now this happened in the eighties. Now, wow,
they said they're gonna be play no more. You beat
that white man too bad. That's what he said. That's
what they said. And he did not play another in
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the NFL. And that's why if you look at it,
I mean, get mad, try to cancel me or whatever.
Washington Redskins pay him for the rest of his life
because they because they had to make it right.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Okay, so how many things are wrong with that? Let's
start with the big one. Let's start with the big one.
Doug Williams played two more seasons. He was the starting
quarterback of the Redskins the year after he won the
Super Bowl, and then this middle of the second season
after the Super Bowl, he was replaced because of back issues.
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He was injured and replaced by Mark Rippin. The rest
is history. Doug Williams was thirty three thirty four years old.
Cat caught magic in a bottle in nineteen eighty seven.
But he had been with the USFL and he played
a lot, and he got tackled a lot. Injuries ended
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his career. Nothing to do with beating a white man
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
No, nothing at all. And I believe he was the
backup the year they won the super Bowl, and the
reason he kept his job was because he won the
super Bowl. It's actually the opposite of this is honestly
a lot like Trump, where like not only is it
not accurate, it's a lie, series of lies, but it's
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it's actually the opposite of what's being presented. What's being
presented is not just factually inaccurate. The opposite of it
is true that because he won the super Bowl and
played so well, despite the fact he'd had a winding
up and down career in and out of the NFL.
He kept his job after and by the way, it
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wasn't great right like they were the next year he
started I think ten games in there, four and six,
and then the following years when he hurt his back.
So again, like, what are we actually doing here? We're
just telling lies that before the Internet you could have
gotten away with.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, I mean, the Internet is what made it viral
this weekend, and I think more than half the people
who saw it probably took it as truth, Doctor Willard Maxwell, Jr.
And this is what kind of frustrates me most about
this is he's presented on this podcast intro as being
a leader in a community of the New Beach Grove
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Baptist Church and Newport News, Virginia. Speaks with a lot
of young people. Obviously, he lies to a lot of
young people about revisionist history and racism. So thank you,
Pastor Willard Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
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Speaker 3 (08:22):
This also happened over the weekend. It happened in an
a's game. Lawrence Butler was at the plate. Now, Chris Carey,
I just found this out. Chris Carey is the A's
play by play announcer. He does the TV games with
Dallas Braden Chip. Chris Carrey is a fourth generation. Right,
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you had Harry and then you had Skip and then
you had Chip, and I think Chris is the fourth
generation of Carrie. In a broadcast booth, Holy Cale. This
is him with Lawrence Butler at the plate.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
One two pitch high in the air, deep to Rye
that ball is foul or gone.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
That ball was absolutely launched law Dog posing them up
at the dish.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He knew it off the bat. It was just a
matter of how.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Far Now Chris carry has gone since it became viral
this weekend, He's gone online and he said, there's no
excuse for this. He actually had a great accountable tweet
about this, but it went everywhere. And Chris Carrey's first
call was that it was foul. A couple things here
that I will defend him on. He says he never
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saw it. It was on the lights. The right fielder
never moved, so there was no indication where the ball was.
And Lawrence Butler stood there like most hitters do now
and just pimped his hit. So, according to Chris, carry
that ball. He had no idea where the ball was,
but it was a crushed home run to right field.
This makes the second time in two months that in
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A's play by play broadcaster has made this segment. The
first one was the female that's your friend that had
a strange reaction to a great play by their center fielder. Yeah,
and Chris carried over this one.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That was a weird one. There's no question about it.
You know what's interesting about it is Chris is not
He's not old, right, some of it is the John
Sterling thing was John Steul is old, he couldn't see,
whereas I don't think Chris is old. He just blew it.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
No. I think he's like early twenties, probably works for
the very bare minimum that a Sacramento A's is allowed
to pay him. He's twenty five. And I do want
to say this. I mentioned this on the show. The
person who's most pissed at this highlight is John Ramos,
our dear friend. John Ramos hates nepotism. If you list
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the things that John Ramos hates, nepotism is at the
very top and Chris Carey is do we imply by
playing the major leagues for one reason, you can't screw up.
You just can't screw up if you're there for one reason.
I'm going to take a different angle on this. We
talked about it on the radio show, and you just
heard LeVar Arrington talk about it. But this is Aaron
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Rodgers sitting with Kyle Brant this weekend. Kyle said that
Terry Bradshaw criticized him, said that he should go back
to California and eat bark or whatever you do in California,
And this was Aaron Rodgers' response.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I've known Terry for a long time being a part
of Fox. Terry's a legend. He's an absolute legend. He
won four Super Bowls, He's had a legendary career in
the media. But Terry, like a lot of people, doesn't
know me, and so he's got an idea of what
he thinks about me based on what I've done, the documentary,
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what I've said, darkness, the treat, whatever the hell you
want to talk about up I'd love to get the
note Terry on a deeper level, and I feel like
if he gave me a chance to get to know him,
they would have a good friendship. Because for me, I
have nothing but the utmost amount of respect and deference
for what the greats have done, because they laid the
foundation for us to be able to play in this
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great game, to be paid like kings, and to carry
on the tradition of excellence that guys like the Bradshaws
of the world in the seventies and Bart Starr in
the sixties, and Lombardi and Joe Montana and Steve Young
and Troy Aikman and Brett Favre and all the greats
that have been over Tom Brady, you know, we're standing
on the on the backs of those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And Hey, Doug, this is how ESPN has it on
ESPN dot com. This is how Yes, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Good because I thought I thought that annoyed you, and
I was like, what's annoying about that?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I thought it was a great answer.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I thought it was a really good answer.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
An amazingly diplomatic answer. This is how ESPN chose to
word the headline Rogers on Bradshaw Barbs Colan. He doesn't
know me, So you're looking at that headline, Yo, whoa,
we got a conflict here between a Steelers Hall of
Famer and Aaron Rodgers. I got to click on this
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and then you listen to that sound, and he could
not have been more deferential. You have a history with
ESPN and headlines. They screwed you over in December if
I'm not if I'm getting the month wrong, yes, where
they completely misrepresented what you had done. ESPN must have
a problem with Aaron Rodgers because they did him dirty
with this headline.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, well, I mean, and it's it's part of the problem.
For what Aaron Rodgers is kind of pointing out is
when you misrepresent people, then that's all that. There's this
thing that I mean, Look, I have lots of friends
that are writers, and obviously right now writers it's a
hard world. So I don't want to be harsh and
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just jump on him and crush him. But writers always
go like, hey, I don't write the headlines. Yeah, I
get it, but on some level you need to control
with your editor exactly what the headlines say because it
makes everything look terrible, just does when it's completely inaccurate.
And this that's doing I'm dirty. That's not a representation
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of who what Aaron Rodgers said in any way anyway.
So yeah, I agree with you. This is a really
really good answer. It's solid. And look, it's hard for
him Rodgers because he plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers and
Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
It's not just that he's a Hall of Famer, it's
not just that he's a broadcast, not just that everybody
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knows him. It's like he's he's operating in at a
position for a team that he rose to prominence with
part of the Steel Curtain. But we do that. This
is what it's a reason that people don't like the
media is a misrepresentation or a hybrid. You know, you
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or you cut up what somebody says and you only
get to the part that you want to get to
in an effort to kind of steer the article and
make it look like something it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So the SPN headline rider we got Chris Carey nepotism
and uh pastor, I want to get his name right
in this case, he's listening, Uh pastor, William Willard, Maxwell Willard, Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Let me let me, let me do this for Chris Carey,
and I love John Ramos. But here's the thing I
hate about guys that shout out nepotism, that don't know
what the fuck they're talking about. And again, and this
is partially directed at Ramos, I've never listened to Chris
Carrey call game. I can only tell you that while
it's seen as an honor or represented as an honor
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to call a Major League Baseball team's games, they think
about it. Now you're calling the A's who are playing
in Sacramento, So you're not making a ton of money.
It's a ton of fucking work, and you're either good
or not good at it. And the easiest way to
tell is do you kind of move up the chain?
This is not him calling Cubbs games because he's what
is he the grandson of Harry Carey, right, It's not
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him like going from nothing to calling Cubs games. It's
a he's at grinder spot. So I actually have I'll
actually defend Chris Carey even though he butcher that call.
What I can't defend is what ESPN did with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
It's annoying.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh man, this is outstanding. See this is my take
on the Space that we're in right now. Is that
the hard work, the people that put the work in
find new angles on stories everyone has to talk about.
That's the work, new angles stories everyone else to talk about.
So when Matthew Stafford when it's announced this past weekend
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and that he's been sidelined with a back injury, and
that Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be the QB one
for the time being, I think you had like Rams
fans that are kind of sketchy. You had the NFL
schedule makers that gave him all the prime games that
are probably a little worried. But me, no, no, I
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thought about this segment on this show. I have a
great chance to bring back maybe my favorite SoundBite of
all time. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be throwing balls
to DeVante Adams on the Rams. You know what that means,
right from the Receiver series on Netflix. The last time
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DeVante Adams was a receiver of Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I gotta get the fuck out of here, for I
lose my fucking life. I have never been hit this
many fucking times in my careers.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Every game I get fucked.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Up so good, so good? Why can we play for
you because we can. That's it for the end the
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