August 6, 2025 • 21 mins
Doug riffs about Shedeur Sanders. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take about ESPN getting the NFL Network. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, LiAngelo Ball makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottli Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Doug got the show in the Bonus, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeart Radio app Welcome in. You know, there's a it's
interesting we go back to COVID and you know, when
people ask me about it all the time, I don't
(00:32):
know how you guys show about it. There's a lot
that I liked about it. You're like, what, no, I mean,
I liked that we had time with our families. You know,
it wasn't traffic. It just it gave us a chance
to slow down a little bit. All that stuff was fantastic.
But coming out of it was Yeah, coming out of
(00:56):
it was really really weird. Right coming out of it,
a lot of people lost their mind. People have lost
their mind of a president Trump. People have lost their
mind over COVID. Conspiracy theories are abound. I mean there's
still like absolutely crazy conspiracy theories about lots of stuff
that took place during COVID, and it's wild. And you know,
(01:20):
today it was announced that Howard Shearn's show is no
longer going to air on Serious XM. I don't know
if he does it anymore. He's seventy one years old,
he's got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank,
and there's lots of ways you can look at it,
but I don't think anyone in our business on our
side of it, can say anything other than great things.
You may not agree with some of the content or whatever,
(01:41):
but the guys literally the most successful successful radio host
of all time, I mean, that's it in that genre,
an unbelievable interviewer, but I mean COVID made him move
to his house in the Hampton's film. From there, then
(02:02):
he never got back to being comfortable around people like
I understand a lot of his pushback against the current president, right,
it's been incredibly ugly and divisive, and there are lots
of people who and again, Trump was on his show
throughout his personal professional life, and they seem to be
(02:26):
either friends or friendly. And Trump seemed to be in
on a lot of a lot of the bits, a
lot of the gigs, a lot of the fun stuff.
But whatever happened, he obviously does not like the current president.
But the bigger point, though, is that COVID itself, in
many ways gave us the chance to take stock to
(02:48):
cut out nonsense, to appreciate each other, to appreciate our families,
to some people traveled the country. I wish I had
done that. On the other hand, on the other hand,
some people lost their minds, and I think he kind
of lost his mind a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Let's Get to the Fox Says, and now every day
at this time in the Bonus Podcast, to play for
you a portion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. We call it what does the fuck?
What does the Fox Say? Okay, so heard this earlier today.
I thought it was really really good. This is Colin
Cowherd talking about Shade or Sanders and the notion that
(03:40):
the Browns want him to fail as quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
This is now being called sabotage. And this is not
just like crazy internet dweeb. It's like network people. It's sabotage.
Cleveland doesn't want him to succeed. Okay, let's start with this.
Josh Dobbs was acquired by the Minnesota Vikings and had
to start and did not get a single practice. Remember
(04:06):
that game, didn't get a practice, won the game. Baker
Mayfield came to the Rams on a Tuesday, had to
play Thursday against the Raiders ninety eight yard fourth quarter
game winning drive with a single practice in the highly
sophisticated Sean McVay offense, a timing offense, a rhythm offense,
(04:30):
one practice. Shnor Sanders has been with the Browns through
OTA's rookie minie camp and training camp. He knows the playbook,
the head coach, the coordinator, and his teammates. And because
he only gets one practice with the Ones, it's sabotage.
You've got to be kidding me. Stop pandering, Stop protecting media.
(04:51):
The great ones would consider this an amazing opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's all you can ever hope for. That's all you
can ever hope for. I mean, we we have so
many people who say so much stupid shit on TV,
and Colin won't do it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I will.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Lewis ridick Is is probably the biggest, the guiltiest party
of this. You know, I was watching NFL Live and
Lewis ridick Is like, you know, they're we know what's
gonna happen here. They're going to hold him to some
high standard of you got to get make this read
and make this read like would you prefer to not
get an opportunity? The whole thing, the whole sale of
(05:28):
Shador Sanders was, you know, he trained with Tom Brady.
He's the most prepared mentally prepared quarterback. Just I, I
don't know. I don't know when we got to this place.
I have a pretty good feeling it was somewhere in
(05:51):
President Obama's either his run for president or when he
became president that everything became about race. Butr Sanders is
not His fall in the NFL draft or whether or
not he's an NFL quarterback has absolutely zero to do
with his race. And it's super odd that we've gotten
(06:13):
to this place to where everything is about race. Either
he can play or he can't play. And when you're
the fourth string guy, if you get a chance to
go to start the first preseason game, right, that's the
whole thing. The reason you want to be drafted higher
is you get more opportunities. This is the greatest opportunity
anyone can beseeched upon a person. So yeah, I heard
(06:34):
Colin say that, and I was just thinking, thank you,
thank you, Colin. Here's Dan Patrick talking about ESPN getting
the NFL network and the red Zone.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Everybody's in bed with the NFL. All networks have partnerships here.
As far as a conflict of interest, I think that's
long gone. I think there's certain things that you're just
not going to cover. I don't know how deep the
ESPN went in on the mess of the NFL Players Association.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I know Florio did.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
A couple of people did. We're in the content business,
That's what Jimmy Pataro, who runs ESPN. They're in the
content business. Outside the lines gone with Bob Lee, Jeremy Shapp.
I mean you have a couple of investigative reporters like
E sixty is a monthly magazine type feature. I'm talking
about day to day looking at stories, giving you both
(07:28):
sides of the stories. And maybe you don't care about it,
you know, maybe you know being a dinosaur. I do
because the NFL should be held accountable for certain things.
But the NFL, I'm sure does not want Hey, we
own part of you ten percent. Well, the NFL has
probably owned a lot of ESPN for a long period
(07:49):
of time. It's just not official, that's all. But you know,
good for you know, the mother ship getting that partnership.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of parts of this that I
don't really I don't really understand. Is the NFL still
gonna be able to get top dollar for red zone
in renegotiations or for Monday Night Football? Will the ESPN
be able to get more games?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Will they be able to get the Thursday night packaging
years to come? I love it for ESPN, I hate
it for any sort of journalistic integrity, but I do
think it makes their content better. I mean, let's just
be honest, NFL content is king. And oh yeah, by
the way, here's another thing that gives ESPN that they
didn't have. They're closing up shop with that La Live studio,
(08:38):
but the NFL network just built their own studios right
next to Sofi Kishim a spot in LA. I mean,
I I gotta tell you, this is a superpower summit
that that has led to a superpower being reborn, and
that being ESPN, you know, and I think that it's
will the bobb Lees of the world. You know, obviously
(09:00):
Bob's retired, but will the investigative journalism be given any
sort of space? Probably they'll probably create another sixty minutes
sort of clone to make everyone's soul feel good. But
you combine the NFL with bringing on WWE, and Jimmy
Pittarro has just made the decision, Hey, we're the e
(09:22):
is for entertainment or about entertainment people making the most money,
and those two entities, the NFL and WWE make gobs
and gobs of money. So let's do it. And who
can blame them? Who can blame them? You can do
the right thing in programming and the right thing for
your soul and be out of a job. And I
(09:42):
don't think this is the wrong thing. Like I don't
think the NFL sinister people make the NFL out to
be some you know, But I do think that when
push comes to shove, obviously you're gonna there's gonna be
a limit to what you how deep you want to
dive in. That's what the Fox says say.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlie
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Hey, Doug, I've told you that I love my documentaries
and I've done like deep dive and seeing three documentaries
on this. Uh. What's his name is that? Brian Colemyer.
What's his Uh? What's the IDAHO for murderers? Brian Coberger
Colberger Coburger. Anyways, Uh, he copped a police so they
(10:40):
didn't go to trial. He admitted to murder. And the
biggest question mark coming out of that copping a plea
was why did he do it? We're never going to
find out why. We the victims aren't going to find
out why. Like they can't have closure if they don't
know why this sociopath murdered their kids. I have the
same feeling about the sex toy thrower. I need to
(11:02):
know why another incident last night sex toy throne at
w NBA player Sophie Cunningham, or as Sam has called her,
Sophie's stunning Ham. I need to know why it's being done.
I need to see the interview. I want to see
this play out in court. I want to see discovery.
(11:24):
What could be the possible reason is because they do
they want them to use the sex toys on the court.
Is it to remind them that they I just I
can't even think of why? Do you know, could you
even think of why? Doug?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Why? Because it's funny because they're trying to make fun
of the.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
League copycats too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, I think. I also think we had fun with
the first one and then more fun with the second one.
And then did you see Sophie Cunningham's tweet last night
after the game where it's just that I can't believe
I shouldn't have said that on Twitter? Right, that was hysterical, hysterical.
I don't know why, it's it's funny.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
They arrested one guy in They arrested the guy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
What are you in for? Murder? What are you in for?
I threw a dildo at a game.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
They actually charged It was from one of the first incidents,
one of the first two they arrested him for, like
indecent exposure because very exposing people to a sex toy,
I guess, and other things. But listen, it was funny
the first time, maybe the second time. Now it's just
getting ridiculous, and that the shtick is played.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Out, yep, I still need to know why.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I mean, what else do you think? Because it's juvenile
and people do copycat things.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
There you go, I think that I think you nailed
the last one. It is juvenile and.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
We're all I'm not satisfied. I need more. So I've
said on this podcast many times, I'm gonna be the
guy that always talks about this, so when it doesn't happen,
I can say I told you so. I don't think
Travis Hunter is going to be a great player on
both sides the ball. Why do you say that? Because
I live through Charles Woodson. You know, I live through
(13:05):
other guys. I didn't live through Jim Thorpe. I think
he was the last guy that did it. So I
can't speak to Jim Thorpe, but I will say this,
I don't think Travis Hunter is gonna be great on
both sides of the ball. He's going to pick one side,
and then I could say I told you so. William
Cohen was on with Rich Eisen. He was asked about
Rookie of the Year. Could he make offensive and defensive?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Do you think he can be offensive and defensive Rookie
of the Year in the same year.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I do think it's possible. He is committed man, like
he is committed to driving, not just himself, but his
teammates as well. And I think that his teammates, like
these guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was the second
overall pick in he's Travis Hunter, like they are in
his grill, trying to jam him up, trying to hem
(13:52):
him up, trying to make it as hard as they
can possibly make it for him in a great way,
like in the most healthy way as possible, where they're
going at it and chirping at each other. But it's
truly guys iron sharpening iron. That's what it feels like.
And I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So all pro and you know, I guess border one.
Hall of Famer DeVante Adams was on a podcast yesterday
and he was asked if Travis Hunter could do both.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level. You know, once you get
out there playing both sides and now you gotta tackle,
you go, you gotta tackle Derrick Henry with that frame.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm gonna state this until he fails at one. You
can do both. It's physically possible to do both. You
just can't be excellent at both. The NFL needs you
to be excellent at one thing.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I just see the learning curve going into the D.
I think it's a little disrespectful to the learning curve
of the NFL. It's a little side showy. Uh and Yeah,
I don't know if you could ultimately be great at both.
I think in your first season, yeah, you're you have
to be skipping steps, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(15:12):
you just have to be because you're not there with
one side every single day. I would almost prefer all
they did was one package of one thing, especially defense,
and it feels like they're focusing more on offense, like
that's gonna be his his ticket. The defense feels like
it requires a lot more communication, a lot more technique.
Maybe I'm wrong, than playing wide receiver, whereas you could
(15:33):
just have a package in for when you play wide
receiver and and what you're gonna do when you when
you get in there. But you know, we've seen Sho
Heeyo Tani's pitching career come and go. His while he
while he's hit, he's still been spectacular. There was always
the what if he just did one I think they
you know, if they fiddle with both, they'll probably end
(15:55):
up on just one. But I again, I I agree
with you, especially in your first I think as time
goes you can learn more technique, you can tighten up practice.
There are things that you can do after practice in
terms of running routes with with quarterbacks or whatever to
make up for the time missed on offense in terms
of being in defensive film meetings. But yeah, I do
think you're limiting the upside on both sides the football
(16:18):
if you're trying to both.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And I think it also is a very gen Z stort.
Why is Travis Hunter going to be put on both
sides of the ball by the Jaguars because he wants to?
Travis Hunter told everybody before the draft he's doing both.
He told everything everybody before the draft that doing this
is harder than Shohail Tawny. His agents are probably made
(16:42):
it clear to the Jags to give him a fair
share of both. And that's why it's That's why it
annoys me, because I don't think any sane football personnel people, scouts,
gms think that he could do both. This is there.
They are placating the gen Z player, and that's what
annoys me most. This is really strange because I know
(17:04):
he's a friend of yours. Bruce Pearl raised eyebrows by
saying this to our buddy Dan Dowkins.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
I get so frustrated when I hear what a terrible
country we are, how racist we are, how this is
not the land of opportunity for everybody. Look, we've got
a lot to work on, and they're racism that absolutely
does exist, and it's wrong. But it's a lot better
for my players than it was for their fathers, or
for their fathers fathers and their father's fun And so
(17:33):
I want my guys to recognize there are going to
be obstacles, but not roadblocks. And that's what Barack Obama did,
however as our president. Other than just love listening to
him talk because he's such a great orator, I disagree
with so many of his policies. I thought in so
many ways, rather than uniting us as a country, even
(17:54):
in by race, he divided us. Everything was black and white.
Everything was the obstacles that were against you know, my
players from being successful. I'm trying to teach my guys. Look,
I don't want you working at some way. I want
you own in five of them, and that's possible. I
think in many ways, Barack Obama spoiled a different story.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I mean, Bruce is a friend, but he's one
hundred percent wrong. I mean, he's just you know, I
love Bruce. He defends Israel to a degree that I
can't even fathom. You know, I don't. I've I've chosen
to for the most part, abstain from getting super deep
involved because there's so many people on social media who
(18:36):
don't know a single fucking thing of what they're talking about, right,
they have no real understanding of what's going on there.
How we actually value life is really as value life,
whereas the Hamas values death. You know, that's what it is.
But like the idea that Obama divided a Maria, Like,
what the fuck are we actually talking about? What are
you talking about? Bruce? You have a president who said
(18:58):
the guy wasn't born in the United States for like
a decade, it still has never said I lied about it.
I was wrong. Ever, the Republicans wouldn't do anything that
Obama wanted to do, including universal health care. Then they
don't want to get rid of universal health care except
when it's called Obamacare, Like we need to stop. Do
I think that the Democratic Party it ran on on
(19:20):
what is it identity politics? Is that what it's called
identity politics?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Of course, of course, again, both sides are bad. It's
just it's the fucking worst. And what happens is when
you bring it in to you know, when you're a
basketball coach and you bring that stuff in, then all
of a sudden, you know, you open yourself up to
criticism when you're talking about something that, in this particular
case is inaccurate. I'm not saying that there wasn't racially
(19:46):
divisive stuff and that there weren't people involved and progressive
things that left white people bought. Sure happened. I think
most of that was in the nineteen I was twenty
sixteen election into kind of twenty twelve one with the
with the marches and all that stuff. But yeah, I
I like Bruce. He suddenly has become just a route
(20:12):
right wearing wonk, the right wing kind of you know,
whatever President Obama says, a presidentsident, whatever President Trump says
he agrees with. And I mean, it's just there's no
purpose in arguing things that are when you start an
argument with a lie that what am I supposed to do.
(20:33):
That's that, that's truely what's happened. That's and bringing politics
and combining in sports also again even luring me into
this out eth Anoya, why are.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Because we can?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
This is lee Angelo ball?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
What made you want to just quit basketball and just music?
Really love how it pays the way of living like
every everything else. I mean, your brother's got big contracts,
my brothers, but I was in the G League.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Okay, that's three K a month. That's a wrong man,
that ship.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
I was getting mine and doing it like right right
when right when you touched three cat that ain't held nothing,
So I got paid for music. It wasn't like a
hard decision. I wasn't contemplating like damn I got a hoop.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I was like, I gotta live at this point.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I gotta live now so that your brother's back up. Yeah,
I already want to hoop. I'll get it in with them,
pickup games.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Man, high level conversation right there. Why could I play
for you? Because we can't. That's it for the end
of the Butters podcast. She got the radio show every
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Radio I hurt Radio Apple. I'm Doug Gotli
All right, this is the Doug gottli Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Doug got the show in the Bonus, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeart Radio app Welcome in. You know, there's a it's
interesting we go back to COVID and you know, when
people ask me about it all the time, I don't
(00:32):
know how you guys show about it. There's a lot
that I liked about it. You're like, what, no, I mean,
I liked that we had time with our families. You know,
it wasn't traffic. It just it gave us a chance
to slow down a little bit. All that stuff was fantastic.
But coming out of it was Yeah, coming out of
(00:56):
it was really really weird. Right coming out of it,
a lot of people lost their mind. People have lost
their mind of a president Trump. People have lost their
mind over COVID. Conspiracy theories are abound. I mean there's
still like absolutely crazy conspiracy theories about lots of stuff
that took place during COVID, and it's wild. And you know,
(01:20):
today it was announced that Howard Shearn's show is no
longer going to air on Serious XM. I don't know
if he does it anymore. He's seventy one years old,
he's got hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank,
and there's lots of ways you can look at it,
but I don't think anyone in our business on our
side of it, can say anything other than great things.
You may not agree with some of the content or whatever,
(01:41):
but the guys literally the most successful successful radio host
of all time, I mean, that's it in that genre,
an unbelievable interviewer, but I mean COVID made him move
to his house in the Hampton's film. From there, then
(02:02):
he never got back to being comfortable around people like
I understand a lot of his pushback against the current president, right,
it's been incredibly ugly and divisive, and there are lots
of people who and again, Trump was on his show
throughout his personal professional life, and they seem to be
(02:26):
either friends or friendly. And Trump seemed to be in
on a lot of a lot of the bits, a
lot of the gigs, a lot of the fun stuff.
But whatever happened, he obviously does not like the current president.
But the bigger point, though, is that COVID itself, in
many ways gave us the chance to take stock to
(02:48):
cut out nonsense, to appreciate each other, to appreciate our families,
to some people traveled the country. I wish I had
done that. On the other hand, on the other hand,
some people lost their minds, and I think he kind
of lost his mind a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Let's Get to the Fox Says, and now every day
at this time in the Bonus Podcast, to play for
you a portion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. We call it what does the fuck?
What does the Fox Say? Okay, so heard this earlier today.
I thought it was really really good. This is Colin
Cowherd talking about Shade or Sanders and the notion that
(03:40):
the Browns want him to fail as quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
This is now being called sabotage. And this is not
just like crazy internet dweeb. It's like network people. It's sabotage.
Cleveland doesn't want him to succeed. Okay, let's start with this.
Josh Dobbs was acquired by the Minnesota Vikings and had
to start and did not get a single practice. Remember
(04:06):
that game, didn't get a practice, won the game. Baker
Mayfield came to the Rams on a Tuesday, had to
play Thursday against the Raiders ninety eight yard fourth quarter
game winning drive with a single practice in the highly
sophisticated Sean McVay offense, a timing offense, a rhythm offense,
(04:30):
one practice. Shnor Sanders has been with the Browns through
OTA's rookie minie camp and training camp. He knows the playbook,
the head coach, the coordinator, and his teammates. And because
he only gets one practice with the Ones, it's sabotage.
You've got to be kidding me. Stop pandering, Stop protecting media.
(04:51):
The great ones would consider this an amazing opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's all you can ever hope for. That's all you
can ever hope for. I mean, we we have so
many people who say so much stupid shit on TV,
and Colin won't do it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I will.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Lewis ridick Is is probably the biggest, the guiltiest party
of this. You know, I was watching NFL Live and
Lewis ridick Is like, you know, they're we know what's
gonna happen here. They're going to hold him to some
high standard of you got to get make this read
and make this read like would you prefer to not
get an opportunity? The whole thing, the whole sale of
(05:28):
Shador Sanders was, you know, he trained with Tom Brady.
He's the most prepared mentally prepared quarterback. Just I, I
don't know. I don't know when we got to this place.
I have a pretty good feeling it was somewhere in
(05:51):
President Obama's either his run for president or when he
became president that everything became about race. Butr Sanders is
not His fall in the NFL draft or whether or
not he's an NFL quarterback has absolutely zero to do
with his race. And it's super odd that we've gotten
(06:13):
to this place to where everything is about race. Either
he can play or he can't play. And when you're
the fourth string guy, if you get a chance to
go to start the first preseason game, right, that's the
whole thing. The reason you want to be drafted higher
is you get more opportunities. This is the greatest opportunity
anyone can beseeched upon a person. So yeah, I heard
(06:34):
Colin say that, and I was just thinking, thank you,
thank you, Colin. Here's Dan Patrick talking about ESPN getting
the NFL network and the red Zone.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Everybody's in bed with the NFL. All networks have partnerships here.
As far as a conflict of interest, I think that's
long gone. I think there's certain things that you're just
not going to cover. I don't know how deep the
ESPN went in on the mess of the NFL Players Association.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I know Florio did.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
A couple of people did. We're in the content business,
That's what Jimmy Pataro, who runs ESPN. They're in the
content business. Outside the lines gone with Bob Lee, Jeremy Shapp.
I mean you have a couple of investigative reporters like
E sixty is a monthly magazine type feature. I'm talking
about day to day looking at stories, giving you both
(07:28):
sides of the stories. And maybe you don't care about it,
you know, maybe you know being a dinosaur. I do
because the NFL should be held accountable for certain things.
But the NFL, I'm sure does not want Hey, we
own part of you ten percent. Well, the NFL has
probably owned a lot of ESPN for a long period
(07:49):
of time. It's just not official, that's all. But you know,
good for you know, the mother ship getting that partnership.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of parts of this that I
don't really I don't really understand. Is the NFL still
gonna be able to get top dollar for red zone
in renegotiations or for Monday Night Football? Will the ESPN
be able to get more games?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Will they be able to get the Thursday night packaging
years to come? I love it for ESPN, I hate
it for any sort of journalistic integrity, but I do
think it makes their content better. I mean, let's just
be honest, NFL content is king. And oh yeah, by
the way, here's another thing that gives ESPN that they
didn't have. They're closing up shop with that La Live studio,
(08:38):
but the NFL network just built their own studios right
next to Sofi Kishim a spot in LA. I mean,
I I gotta tell you, this is a superpower summit
that that has led to a superpower being reborn, and
that being ESPN, you know, and I think that it's
will the bobb Lees of the world. You know, obviously
(09:00):
Bob's retired, but will the investigative journalism be given any
sort of space? Probably they'll probably create another sixty minutes
sort of clone to make everyone's soul feel good. But
you combine the NFL with bringing on WWE, and Jimmy
Pittarro has just made the decision, Hey, we're the e
(09:22):
is for entertainment or about entertainment people making the most money,
and those two entities, the NFL and WWE make gobs
and gobs of money. So let's do it. And who
can blame them? Who can blame them? You can do
the right thing in programming and the right thing for
your soul and be out of a job. And I
(09:42):
don't think this is the wrong thing. Like I don't
think the NFL sinister people make the NFL out to
be some you know, But I do think that when
push comes to shove, obviously you're gonna there's gonna be
a limit to what you how deep you want to
dive in. That's what the Fox says say.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
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Speaker 2 (10:07):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Hey, Doug, I've told you that I love my documentaries
and I've done like deep dive and seeing three documentaries
on this. Uh. What's his name is that? Brian Colemyer.
What's his Uh? What's the IDAHO for murderers? Brian Coberger
Colberger Coburger. Anyways, Uh, he copped a police so they
(10:40):
didn't go to trial. He admitted to murder. And the
biggest question mark coming out of that copping a plea
was why did he do it? We're never going to
find out why. We the victims aren't going to find
out why. Like they can't have closure if they don't
know why this sociopath murdered their kids. I have the
same feeling about the sex toy thrower. I need to
(11:02):
know why another incident last night sex toy throne at
w NBA player Sophie Cunningham, or as Sam has called her,
Sophie's stunning Ham. I need to know why it's being done.
I need to see the interview. I want to see
this play out in court. I want to see discovery.
(11:24):
What could be the possible reason is because they do
they want them to use the sex toys on the court.
Is it to remind them that they I just I
can't even think of why? Do you know, could you
even think of why? Doug?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Why? Because it's funny because they're trying to make fun
of the.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
League copycats too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, I think. I also think we had fun with
the first one and then more fun with the second one.
And then did you see Sophie Cunningham's tweet last night
after the game where it's just that I can't believe
I shouldn't have said that on Twitter? Right, that was hysterical, hysterical.
I don't know why, it's it's funny.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
They arrested one guy in They arrested the guy.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
What are you in for? Murder? What are you in for?
I threw a dildo at a game.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
They actually charged It was from one of the first incidents,
one of the first two they arrested him for, like
indecent exposure because very exposing people to a sex toy,
I guess, and other things. But listen, it was funny
the first time, maybe the second time. Now it's just
getting ridiculous, and that the shtick is played.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Out, yep, I still need to know why.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I mean, what else do you think? Because it's juvenile
and people do copycat things.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
There you go, I think that I think you nailed
the last one. It is juvenile and.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
We're all I'm not satisfied. I need more. So I've
said on this podcast many times, I'm gonna be the
guy that always talks about this, so when it doesn't happen,
I can say I told you so. I don't think
Travis Hunter is going to be a great player on
both sides the ball. Why do you say that? Because
I live through Charles Woodson. You know, I live through
(13:05):
other guys. I didn't live through Jim Thorpe. I think
he was the last guy that did it. So I
can't speak to Jim Thorpe, but I will say this,
I don't think Travis Hunter is gonna be great on
both sides of the ball. He's going to pick one side,
and then I could say I told you so. William
Cohen was on with Rich Eisen. He was asked about
Rookie of the Year. Could he make offensive and defensive?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Do you think he can be offensive and defensive Rookie
of the Year in the same year.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I do think it's possible. He is committed man, like
he is committed to driving, not just himself, but his
teammates as well. And I think that his teammates, like
these guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was the second
overall pick in he's Travis Hunter, like they are in
his grill, trying to jam him up, trying to hem
(13:52):
him up, trying to make it as hard as they
can possibly make it for him in a great way,
like in the most healthy way as possible, where they're
going at it and chirping at each other. But it's
truly guys iron sharpening iron. That's what it feels like.
And I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So all pro and you know, I guess border one.
Hall of Famer DeVante Adams was on a podcast yesterday
and he was asked if Travis Hunter could do both.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level. You know, once you get
out there playing both sides and now you gotta tackle,
you go, you gotta tackle Derrick Henry with that frame.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm gonna state this until he fails at one. You
can do both. It's physically possible to do both. You
just can't be excellent at both. The NFL needs you
to be excellent at one thing.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I just see the learning curve going into the D.
I think it's a little disrespectful to the learning curve
of the NFL. It's a little side showy. Uh and Yeah,
I don't know if you could ultimately be great at both.
I think in your first season, yeah, you're you have
to be skipping steps, you know what I mean. Yeah,
(15:12):
you just have to be because you're not there with
one side every single day. I would almost prefer all
they did was one package of one thing, especially defense,
and it feels like they're focusing more on offense, like
that's gonna be his his ticket. The defense feels like
it requires a lot more communication, a lot more technique.
Maybe I'm wrong, than playing wide receiver, whereas you could
(15:33):
just have a package in for when you play wide
receiver and and what you're gonna do when you when
you get in there. But you know, we've seen Sho
Heeyo Tani's pitching career come and go. His while he
while he's hit, he's still been spectacular. There was always
the what if he just did one I think they
you know, if they fiddle with both, they'll probably end
(15:55):
up on just one. But I again, I I agree
with you, especially in your first I think as time
goes you can learn more technique, you can tighten up practice.
There are things that you can do after practice in
terms of running routes with with quarterbacks or whatever to
make up for the time missed on offense in terms
of being in defensive film meetings. But yeah, I do
think you're limiting the upside on both sides the football
(16:18):
if you're trying to both.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And I think it also is a very gen Z stort.
Why is Travis Hunter going to be put on both
sides of the ball by the Jaguars because he wants to?
Travis Hunter told everybody before the draft he's doing both.
He told everything everybody before the draft that doing this
is harder than Shohail Tawny. His agents are probably made
(16:42):
it clear to the Jags to give him a fair
share of both. And that's why it's That's why it
annoys me, because I don't think any sane football personnel people, scouts,
gms think that he could do both. This is there.
They are placating the gen Z player, and that's what
annoys me most. This is really strange because I know
(17:04):
he's a friend of yours. Bruce Pearl raised eyebrows by
saying this to our buddy Dan Dowkins.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
I get so frustrated when I hear what a terrible
country we are, how racist we are, how this is
not the land of opportunity for everybody. Look, we've got
a lot to work on, and they're racism that absolutely
does exist, and it's wrong. But it's a lot better
for my players than it was for their fathers, or
for their fathers fathers and their father's fun And so
(17:33):
I want my guys to recognize there are going to
be obstacles, but not roadblocks. And that's what Barack Obama did,
however as our president. Other than just love listening to
him talk because he's such a great orator, I disagree
with so many of his policies. I thought in so
many ways, rather than uniting us as a country, even
(17:54):
in by race, he divided us. Everything was black and white.
Everything was the obstacles that were against you know, my
players from being successful. I'm trying to teach my guys. Look,
I don't want you working at some way. I want
you own in five of them, and that's possible. I
think in many ways, Barack Obama spoiled a different story.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I mean, Bruce is a friend, but he's one
hundred percent wrong. I mean, he's just you know, I
love Bruce. He defends Israel to a degree that I
can't even fathom. You know, I don't. I've I've chosen
to for the most part, abstain from getting super deep
involved because there's so many people on social media who
(18:36):
don't know a single fucking thing of what they're talking about, right,
they have no real understanding of what's going on there.
How we actually value life is really as value life,
whereas the Hamas values death. You know, that's what it is.
But like the idea that Obama divided a Maria, Like,
what the fuck are we actually talking about? What are
you talking about? Bruce? You have a president who said
(18:58):
the guy wasn't born in the United States for like
a decade, it still has never said I lied about it.
I was wrong. Ever, the Republicans wouldn't do anything that
Obama wanted to do, including universal health care. Then they
don't want to get rid of universal health care except
when it's called Obamacare, Like we need to stop. Do
I think that the Democratic Party it ran on on
(19:20):
what is it identity politics? Is that what it's called
identity politics?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Of course, of course, again, both sides are bad. It's
just it's the fucking worst. And what happens is when
you bring it in to you know, when you're a
basketball coach and you bring that stuff in, then all
of a sudden, you know, you open yourself up to
criticism when you're talking about something that, in this particular
case is inaccurate. I'm not saying that there wasn't racially
(19:46):
divisive stuff and that there weren't people involved and progressive
things that left white people bought. Sure happened. I think
most of that was in the nineteen I was twenty
sixteen election into kind of twenty twelve one with the
with the marches and all that stuff. But yeah, I
I like Bruce. He suddenly has become just a route
(20:12):
right wearing wonk, the right wing kind of you know,
whatever President Obama says, a presidentsident, whatever President Trump says
he agrees with. And I mean, it's just there's no
purpose in arguing things that are when you start an
argument with a lie that what am I supposed to do.
(20:33):
That's that, that's truely what's happened. That's and bringing politics
and combining in sports also again even luring me into
this out eth Anoya, why are.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Because we can?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
This is lee Angelo ball?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
What made you want to just quit basketball and just music?
Really love how it pays the way of living like
every everything else. I mean, your brother's got big contracts,
my brothers, but I was in the G League.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Okay, that's three K a month. That's a wrong man,
that ship.
Speaker 10 (21:18):
I was getting mine and doing it like right right
when right when you touched three cat that ain't held nothing,
So I got paid for music. It wasn't like a
hard decision. I wasn't contemplating like damn I got a hoop.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I was like, I gotta live at this point.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I gotta live now so that your brother's back up. Yeah,
I already want to hoop. I'll get it in with them,
pickup games.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Man, high level conversation right there. Why could I play
for you? Because we can't. That's it for the end
of the Butters podcast. She got the radio show every
day three to five from twelve two Pacific Fox Sports
Radio I hurt Radio Apple. I'm Doug Gotli
Host
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