August 28, 2025 • 30 mins
Doug riffs on the NBA on ESPN and a recent change with announcer Doris Burke. Doug welcomes Kelley Ford of KFordRatings.com to preview the college football weekend. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Tim Walz makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up, Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. So I saw this story today
that I've seen several different tweets. Let's just again, I'll
be honest with you. The easiest way to use Twitter
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is to only get the people that you're following, don't
worry about replies, and have it be your news feed,
and then pick and choose stories from it. So I
had several of these stories that had it stated one way,
and one story said Doris Burke has been reassigned and
she'll be on the number two crew with ESPN, But
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many of them said that she's been demoted, which again,
it is accurate that she was on the number one
team and now she's gonna be on the number two team.
But why do we have to release that it's demoted?
Who actually cares? And what's the win in it for anybody,
specifically ESPN to say she was demoted? And this is
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not me not defending Doris Burke. I think Doris Burke
is outstanding. I do think she was miscast calling those games.
And part of it is who she replaced. We talked
about this yesterday in the radio show with Hey, Caitlyn
de Bore, like, do you really want to be the
guy who replaces Nick Saban? Not really, right, not really?
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Do you want to be the guy that replaces Nick Saban?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I do not, But it's a job you can't turn down.
I don't think they were as revered obviously as Nick Saban,
But keep in mind Jeff Van Gunny, Mark Jackson, Mike Breen.
That was a great team. So when you replace Jeff
Van Gundy, who's revered in New York as a basketball
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coach and in basketball circles, Mark Jackson was revered in
New York when he was Action Jackson Rookie of the
Year as a player, and then of course an NBA
head coach, Mike Breen, who's revered in New York. And
you're like, wait a second. ESPN's a national company covered
the NBA. I agree, okay, but this is kind of
the center of the basketball universe a little bit, and
TV universe can be in New York City. So Doris
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was social media popular social media and players like I
love Dorisburk, but she she's it's just a it's a
hard role. One because she's a woman. Two because she
hasn't played men's basketball, and she hasn't coached men's basketball. Now,
she did play and coach as a woman. She coached
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in college. She played in college. She's a very good broadcaster.
She has tendency to be a little bit on the
dry side. Dry side, by the way, is a nice
way of saying what Jase two.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Boring.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, yes, yes. When people say yeah, she's just dry,
it means boring. And Doris actually has a very good personality.
It's one of those like I kind of wish she
would break it out. But I guess the question Jase too,
is why do you think they announced that she had
been demoted? Why was that the way the story was portrayed?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And by the way, this is a big gen Z term.
It was very intentional because obviously ESPN wanted to make
sure that it was reported that she was demoted. Andrew
Marshaw of The Athletic, very well respected media critic, went
with the word demoted, and then every single aggregator on
sports Twitter has used the word demoted. So it's like
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kind of like a rubbing salt in the wound. So
there must be something behind that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh, yeah, there's a lot behind it, No question, there's
a lot behind it. I think there's one of two
things behind it, and I'll let you and Sam, you
guys kind of bandied about. I think the first one
is that she did something to piss them off. Now,
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when we say something to piss them off, it's very
it's very normal for somebody who's in real life to
go like, oh, does that mean that you know she
was late? No, she's never late. Not prepared, No, she's
never not prepared. She drinks too much, drink on the job. No,
that's not her, right, None of those things are her.
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My guess is that as this conversation, because remember there
was conversation in the regular season about them pulling her
from the number one team. Do you remember that? Okay?
That again, that conversation only gets out there if they
want it out there, and only gets out there if
they're gonna do it. It's just a question of when,
not if, when not if? So there's only three possible scenarios.
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One is they did something to piss off, pissed her off,
but she did something to piss them off. Two is
the other two on the crew like I can't work
with her. And three is they had to make this
statement because that was all part of them retaining the NBA,
and the NBA does the NBA didn't want you f
n Gundy on there. They thought he was too much
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of a negative Nancy. So this is their way of
making a statement to the NBA. Hey, we hear you.
You didn't want to doors perk. We're going to do better.
One two or three? JS two? Which one do you
think it is?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I really like I like the one where she pissed
the bosses off, Like maybe they went to her or
her representation and told her about this and she mother
f them, you know, and yeah, oh okay, so I
guess we'll we won't make this easy. We won't. We
won't give you a chance to kind of mutually mutually
you know, resign this.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Position or whatever very possible.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But now that's the sexiest one. I always like the
best storylines.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So that's whe're gonna go with. She told somebody to
fuck off. Yeah, I think it's more likely the last
one that the NBA this is kissing the NBA's butt
because they somehow had it that they want to make
a change, and they want everybody know there's a change.
And they didn't want doors Burke, and they're gonna want
him to add some former longtime coach. All right, if
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you everage Jefferson, you're gonna ender some longtime coach.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
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Speaker 2 (06:32):
Let's welcome in. He has his own website, he has
his own WC Twitter page. He's the one only Kelly Ford,
and he joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. And he does what he does best,
which is help us with some predictive analysis. Okay with
k Forard Ratings. Follow on social media at k Ford
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Ratings right or go to Kford Ratings dot com. A
good snapshot of what the college football seed may look
like if you're shoven into a computer that puts together
all these petrics. Kelly, let's start with Texas and Ohio
State are what one in three in the rankings? Is
that right? Is that the rankings that you have for them?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
It is the rankings that I have for them, Doug.
It's good to be with you again here this season.
Excited about it, and this is the perfect game to
start with. And I say that we have seven hundred
and sixty plus games this fall that involve at least
one FBS team, and I give a watchability score to
all of them on a zero to ten scale. This
game Texas at Ohio State to start the year noon
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Big noon kickoff on Fox. It is the only game
of the entire regular season plate that scores a ten
point zero out of ten. So this is the biggest game,
not just of the week, perhaps of the year. Texas
for me is power rated number one in my model,
Ohio State number three in my model, so it does
match the AP rankings. And just like Vegas, I have
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Ohio State as a very small favorite here fifty eight
percent chance to win. Essentially it comes down to the
home field advantage. This case could also be made Doug.
For me, the worst unit in this game as of
now is the Texas offense. Of course, it's largely dependent
on how good is arch Manning. If he lives up
to the expectations and the hype that's almost you know,
unreal this year, Texas is going to be very, very
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difficult to beat. If he's merely good this year, Texas
has enough talent around him to make a deep run
in the cost Ball playoffs. So if Arch plays at
the level that many are projecting, that number twenty two
offensive unit ranking is going to shoot way up the boards.
But for now, that, coupled with the fact this game
in Columbus, are the reasons that my model get Ohio
State a fifty eight percent chance to win this one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
How does this predicative analysis work considering some of these
teams have completely new teams.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, increasingly difficult every year, and I've had to actually
tweak my process for how I generate preseason ratings. So
we still are looking at returning production, of course, and
that returning production can either come from your team last
year or it can come through the transfer portal. And
of course, as you have players transferring, you have to
make adjustment scalers and modifiers as to the level of
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competition they faced a year ago versus what they're going
to be facing this year at their new program, their
new team. So returning production is huge. We're also looking at,
you know, how how good has your program been in
recent years, But that's that weight has been downgraded significantly
because of how rosters are constructed these days. It no
longer matters as much how good your program was a year, two, three,
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four years ago as it did when I started doing
this project. You know, six or seven seasons ago. What
matters more though than doug If that matters less, what
matters more coaching continuities. So that's something that really matters,
and I know you can appreciate that as well in
your role. If a coaching staff, head coach, offensive coordinator,
defensive coordinator have been together for a while, if they've
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performed well for a significant period of time, that improves
a team's preseason outlook. So I have changed how I
go about this process because college football has changed and
how rosters are constructed looks very different now than it
did even just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Let's get to LSU Clemson. That's this weekend Clemson. They
like to build from within, but there's the question of
do they have enough talent quoting against an LSU team
that they're constantly putting together new pieces in there and
obviously pushing limits of what you can spend in college
football free agency. Who's the computer like in LSU Clemson?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, this is my two game of the week in watchability,
Doug with a nine point eight out of ten, and
my model views these teams very comparably. Clemson number eight
in the model, LSU number nine, both offenses in the
top six, both defenses in the top twenty five. The
different here essentially the home field advantage and which depth
valley is the real depth valley I know, is a
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big storyline for this one. My model likes Clemson sixty
one percent chance to win it. It does give both
offenses the slight advantage as I noted there, but I
do think Clemson has just enough in this one, And Doug,
it's interesting because let's you's got plenty of big time
opportunities to you know, to build a resume throughout the year.
Clemson as the favorite in the ACC based on my
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I projected spreads right now there. If Clemson wins this one,
there are only two more games on their schedule in
which they're projected to have a one possession spread, and
they're projected favorite in both, but the first one is
not until Louisville in Week twelve Friday, night on the
road and then to end the regular season a trip
to South Carolina to play the game talk. I mean,
if Clemson gets by LSU here, there's a very good
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chance that we're talking about a nine to oh Clemson
team at worst, you know, heading into to November. So
Clemson's got a lot to play for here. LSU has
other opportunities, but this is really a chance for Clemson
to build a resume and establish themselves as not just
a favorite in the ACC, but a true national title contender.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In Week one, Stuck Gotleibs show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Great thing about this weekend is you have games all
weekend long, even into Monday. I'm fascinated by Notre Dame
in Miami. You know, Miami last year was good, but
they had an elite quarterback. But it's so hard to
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tell in that ACC because sometimes you know, this year
they have they open up with you know, they open
up with the Domers, right, who play kind of a
quasi ACC schedule. They do play Florida at home, right,
they go to SMU, but not the same level of
schedule you're used to because for GIA Tech has not
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viewed the same and the rest of the ACC is down.
What I think Notre Dame is a two and a
half point favorite, right, two and a half point favorite.
Carson Beck now the quarterback of the U. Who do
you like?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah? And done that Miami schedule, Doug. They missed Clemson
in conference play, so that's important to keep in mind too.
Notre Dame. I like them in this game. I've got
a sixty three expectancy. The fighting irish and really the
big difference here, even though the game is in South Florida.
The big difference here, Doug, is the only unit that
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ranks outside the top twelve nationally in this game is
the Miami defense that comes in at number forty nine.
So for me, that could be where this game is won.
Is that Notre Dame offense that's number twelve against a
number forty nine ranked Miami defense, which is an improvement
from a year ago. They were fifty eight last year
in my year end unit ratings. So I do expect
Miami to be better on the defensive side. But are
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they going to be good enough to slow down this
Notre Dame offense that I have in the top fifteen.
I'm not so sure. And I talked about Clemson and
how their kind of schedule plays out down the stretch.
For Notre Dame, it's even more even more point is
to start the season. Well, they start, of course with
this game at Miami, then they're oft in Week two,
Week three, Texas A and m comes into South Bend,
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and after that, Doug, there's not a single game left
on Notre Dame schedule that my numbers make a one
possession spread. So if Notre Dame and start this year,
you know, one in one or two and oh, you
can almost take a sharpie and get them into the
College Wall playoff bracket because the schedule is incredibly front
front loaded. Notre Dame knows that, Miami knows that too.
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But I think Notre Dame is going to come out
playing like their seasons on the line, because in a way,
you could argue the first two games really is the
biggest part of their regular season.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
South Carolina Virginia Tech. Any hope for Virginia Tech this
season as you have to get another Virginia Tech coach
on the hot seat?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah, I Virginia Tech. I expect them to take a
little bit of a step back this year. They were
thirty five in my year end power ratings last year,
I have them number forty two coming into this season.
If I look at this game in particular, I've got
a seventy two percent one expectancy for South Carolina. So
this is a multi score projected spread, just barely, but
it is a multi score projected spread. A lot of
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eyes going to be on this game on Sunday, new
neutral site game here, so that into it a little bit.
But I do think South Carolina is the better team.
I give them the advantage on both sides of the ball,
in particular on defense. Their defense is the best unit
in this game, coming in at number sixteen, and the
Virginia Tech offense is the worst unit in this game
at number forty nine. So you know, for the out
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you said, you know the outlook of Virginia Tech this year,
I've got seven and five as the most likely record
for this team. It's an eighty eight percent chance to
go bowling's a twenty one percent chance to win at
least nine games. So you know, I'm not picking Virginia
Tech to be in the ACC Championship game by any means.
They're currently fifth, though, and I projected ACC standings and
that's helped by the fact that they have among the
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easier schedules in ACC conference play. It's number thirteen out
of seventeen in scheduled difficulty South Carolina. We're talking about
schedules number eight most difficult schedule in the entire country
for the game COX this year. And they don't even
play Georgia or Texas or Tennessee or Florida or Auburn.
And it's still the number eight most difficult schedule because
that's how loaded the SEC is. So I like South
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Carolin in this game, but I do think Virginia Tech
can still have a decent year this year. You know,
if we define that as eight and four, let's say
there's a forty four percent chance that can reach at
least eight wins.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Kelly Ford K four ratings. Check him out on social media,
check him out online. He'll be with us all year long. Kelly,
You're the best, Kelly, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Thanks, Doug really get it always fun talking to you.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's find out Who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now
it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Hey, Doug. Chris Greer is the general manager of the Dolphins.
Chris Greer was asked about his interaction with fans, and
this is what he had to offer up.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I really have had many interactions with fans. No, when
I see guys, they're like, hey, if I'm out, people
have always been respectful and nice and they just say, hey,
you know, keep going, appreciate you. And so it's been
now the guys to my face have been nice. I
know there's people that are upset, but that's any job.
And if I was comfortable and saying I felt great
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about what things are, then I'm an asshole because I'm
not being realistic about where we are as a team
and where things are going so after last season, so
I'm frustrated like they are that we didn't win enough
games last year. So I understand it. Like I said,
I don't take things person but when i'm out, people
who have been generally, you know, very positive and stuff
to me. But I know there's guys. I mean, I've
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gotten some colorful emails with a couple of people, including
hoping my kids die of cancer, which is a fun one.
I was like, there you go. So that's why I
don't take things very personal rio because other people have
other issues and stuff in life.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And this comes a day after that report, Dustin May
says that his wife's social media account got a on
their dog's life, I'm going to kill your dog. So
when we made gambling legal right most states it's legal,
we were wondering, what are they going to be the
downstream implications of legalized gambling. I think the way that
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fans treat these team members, general manager, coach, and players,
it was the downstream stuff that I don't think people foresaw.
They're emboldened to do things like in Chris Greer's case,
wish that his kids had cancer, and in Dustin May's case,
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threatened to kill his dog. I think that other than
these like the societal issues where we just become more
degenerative as people, as people lose their money and their
homes and their marriages, I think this was a downstream
thing that nobody foresaw. The emboldened public to reach out
to these people that cost them money.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Uh yeah, you think, I just the I love that
term downstream and my can I can I use a
different term, and you see which one you like better.
I like downstream. I love the law of unintended consequences.
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There you go, you know, which is a longer way
of saying what you're talking about, the unintended consequences of gambling.
And honestly, I think it's even worse in college because
you have now gambling in some of these states is legal,
and you have a switchover from the idea to amateurism
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to professionalism. Regardless of whether or not guys were getting
paid previously, or how much guys are even getting now,
they're viewed different. The perception is different. The perception is, hey,
you perform, you're going to get paid, so that if
you don't perform, well, you're not living up to your salary.
In regardless of the fact that even before they were
getting paid, your schools are still essentially making, you know,
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paying a bunch of money to recruit, to train, to retain,
to get guys, you know, get keep guys around campus
in the off season. They were still costing schools a
lot of money more so now, but a lot of money.
But again, I agree with you, just what you call
it downstream of law of undertended consequences. Gambling changes all
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of the energy and it makes it extremely negative, extremely
negative when teams don't perform.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think that there's a I got feedback on a
direct message recently that it seems that I've changed my
ire from gen Z to dumb people, and there is
something to that. But I will say this, I am
an equal cynic. I mean I'm sending, what is it,
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cyniccle of each equally. I think that gen Z has
a lot of issues, but I also think that our
country is getting a lot dumber by the day, less
sophisticated by the day. Don't get me started on the
results of putting kids in their homes and doing online
classes and the data that's shown that we got a
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whole lot dumber in the space of an eighteen month window.
But I want to talk about education. I think education
is important. I think an educated society will do better,
will behave better. You talk about the increase of crime,
whether or not you want to believe it or not,
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I think a less educated society is more susceptible to crime. Anyways,
Taylor Townsend is a tennis player. Taylor Townsend is a
black tennis player. I just point that out because there's
been some kind of racial aspect to this exchange. Taylor
Townsend had an exchange with an another tennis player at
the US Open and it got heated, and then after
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the after the match, Taylor Townsend proved to everybody that
her opponent might have been onto something.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Go ahead, Taylor, congratulations, fiery match, start to finish.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We'll get to it all.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Can you fill us in on the conversation you were
having with the Elena out there?
Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know, it's competition. People get upset when they lose,
and you can't. Some people say bad things. She told me,
I have no class, I have no education, and to
see what happens when we get outside the US. So
I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat her
in Canada outside the US. I beat her in New
York outside the US. So let's see what else she
has to say.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So ye, to prove that she is not not educated.
She said that she has beat their opponent on in
the United States, in the state of New York.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
She told me, I have no class, I have no education,
and to see what happens when we get outside the US.
So I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat
her in Canada outside the US. I beat her in
New York outside the US. So let's see what else
she has to say.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait did she just said I
beat her in New York outside.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
The US to prove that she is not not educated.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Thanks for cleaning that up.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Opponents says, I'm not educated, but I beat her outside
the US in New York.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
In New York. Yes, that was outside of the US. Now,
if you can't fix ya, you can't fix stupid. You
can't fix stupid.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
That's kind of like the uh Doug. That's kind of
like the OJS when they sang Love Train and they
are saying, Hey, all the brothers over in Africa, and
they say, oh, and also in Egypt too, dot dot dot.
Egypt's in North Africa.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's in Africa though.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Yes, they said, all my brothers over in Africa, and
then he says in Egypt too. So yeah, that's yeah,
that's covered.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Thank you. Yesterday on the radio show, I voiced this opinion,
and you came up with a reason. I think Sam
was mostly in agreement with me, but I could be wrong.
I don't understand the hype about arch Manning. I don't
understand why he is just starting his first college football game.
If he's this good, if he is like the consensus
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number one overall pick that the Saints and the Browns
and other teams should tank this season to get Arch,
then why hasn't he been a starter on an NFL team.
I think you offered up the reasoning or examples of
Justin Fields and Joe Burrow, But I want, I just
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I want more information on this. So Jordan Rodgers is
known for three things. Jordan Rodgers is the estranged brother
of Aaron. He won the Bachelorette. I think he's still
with his partner in the Bachelorette Jojo. And then now
he is doing in SEC commentary and he said something
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that's very interesting. This is a person who covers Texas
and the SEC talking about Arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
But I will say, and I'm gonna say this, I
don't know what you guys talked about when I went
off here. The hepe doesn't match the tape.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
There are good.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Things, and there are some good things, but the height
or the tape to me, doesn't tell you got a
first round draft pick, or a top ten or number
one overall draft pick, or a Heisman hopeful I think
he's gonna go into Ohio State and he's gonna struggle
because he hasn't played anybody. The last time we saw
him against a really good defense was Georgia, and he
looked out of place. Right, he looked really good against UTSA, Louisiana, Monroe.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And Mississippi State, the worst defense in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I think there's still a lot for him to grow,
and a lot we need to see.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like Lewis said, feels like there's need to be there
needs to be more voices like Jordan. I feel like
most people are falling in line with the hype.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I mean, I just think most people don't know.
And my thing is, again, just because you have potential
doesn't mean you help a team win immediately. And I
don't think anything will ever match up with the hype
because he's a Manning and his uncles are Hall of Famers,
and he's at Texas, which is already hyped. I do
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like Jordan's perception on it. You know, if he can
show us on tape what he means, then absolutely I'm
off for it. I think more people should get that,
should have that.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
So people being in bold in to tell Chris career
that his kids should get cancer, and Dustin May they
want to kill dozen May's dog, uneducated people, and the
archman in hype. Those are the topics to choose from
today for most annoying of the day. Do got with
this is a doozy, Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I do think that people telling Chris Greer's kids that
they should get cancer and die is that type of
shit is the most annoying thing ever. You're annoying?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
For those that don't note, Donald Trump won the presidency
in twenty twenty four. He was running against Kamala Harris.
Her selected running mate was a gentleman named Tim Walsh.
He's the governor of Minnesota. Tim Watsh two days ago,
two days ago made these comments publicly now. Earlier in
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the week, Doug, in this very segment, we talked about
Joey Taylor's hypocrisy, right, she's very woke, and then she
thought it was okay to tell a fat joke about
a black eye, and I thought, that's hypocritical, Like you're
going right to the marginalized obese people. I thought they
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were part of the people that you brought into the
tent you didn't alienate, right. Tim Walts does a great
job of kind of proving my point on this. Imagine
if he was talking about a woman here and.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
I am proud of this state like so many others.
And I will have to tell you the privilege of
my lifetime was stand beside someone we know was the
most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in
a president Harris. And look, we wouldn't wake up every
day to a bunch of shit on TV and a
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bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
We would wake up to an adult with compassion and
dignity and vision and leadership doing the work, not a
manchild crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat
ankles find something today, Petty as Hall.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I mean, I mean he is. Isn't he called tampon? Tim?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Is?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Right? That is? Like, I here's the thing, Jase two is.
I was thinking about this. We were doing a topic
last week this week or something, and I was thinking
of dirtiest businesses and I was like, well, politics, you
can't even put on the list because it's so much
dirtier than any other business. So I hear you on
the hypocrisy, but I also tell you that it's politics.
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So they're kind of are no rules, right they are
you fat?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Not anymore there are any rules? Like the current president
has lowered the bar for discourse, like you see Gavin
Newsom and you see Tim Walls. They're dropping shit and
fuck bombs publicly, yet it never happened before Trump. And
you're and you're gonna tell me, I just started talking
about how much dumber we are as a society. You're
telling me that having the people that represent us dropping
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f bombs publicly and talking about fat ankles, you think
this is this is a great representation for this country.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't think anybody does. Don't it don't So why
do we play it for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the end of the Modus podcast. You Got
the Right radio show every day three to five Eastern
Twalty Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlie
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up, Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. So I saw this story today
that I've seen several different tweets. Let's just again, I'll
be honest with you. The easiest way to use Twitter
(00:34):
is to only get the people that you're following, don't
worry about replies, and have it be your news feed,
and then pick and choose stories from it. So I
had several of these stories that had it stated one way,
and one story said Doris Burke has been reassigned and
she'll be on the number two crew with ESPN, But
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many of them said that she's been demoted, which again,
it is accurate that she was on the number one
team and now she's gonna be on the number two team.
But why do we have to release that it's demoted?
Who actually cares? And what's the win in it for anybody,
specifically ESPN to say she was demoted? And this is
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not me not defending Doris Burke. I think Doris Burke
is outstanding. I do think she was miscast calling those games.
And part of it is who she replaced. We talked
about this yesterday in the radio show with Hey, Caitlyn
de Bore, like, do you really want to be the
guy who replaces Nick Saban? Not really, right, not really?
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Do you want to be the guy that replaces Nick Saban?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I do not, But it's a job you can't turn down.
I don't think they were as revered obviously as Nick Saban,
But keep in mind Jeff Van Gunny, Mark Jackson, Mike Breen.
That was a great team. So when you replace Jeff
Van Gundy, who's revered in New York as a basketball
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coach and in basketball circles, Mark Jackson was revered in
New York when he was Action Jackson Rookie of the
Year as a player, and then of course an NBA
head coach, Mike Breen, who's revered in New York. And
you're like, wait a second. ESPN's a national company covered
the NBA. I agree, okay, but this is kind of
the center of the basketball universe a little bit, and
TV universe can be in New York City. So Doris
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was social media popular social media and players like I
love Dorisburk, but she she's it's just a it's a
hard role. One because she's a woman. Two because she
hasn't played men's basketball, and she hasn't coached men's basketball. Now,
she did play and coach as a woman. She coached
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in college. She played in college. She's a very good broadcaster.
She has tendency to be a little bit on the
dry side. Dry side, by the way, is a nice
way of saying what Jase two.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Boring.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, yes, yes. When people say yeah, she's just dry,
it means boring. And Doris actually has a very good personality.
It's one of those like I kind of wish she
would break it out. But I guess the question Jase too,
is why do you think they announced that she had
been demoted? Why was that the way the story was portrayed?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And by the way, this is a big gen Z term.
It was very intentional because obviously ESPN wanted to make
sure that it was reported that she was demoted. Andrew
Marshaw of The Athletic, very well respected media critic, went
with the word demoted, and then every single aggregator on
sports Twitter has used the word demoted. So it's like
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kind of like a rubbing salt in the wound. So
there must be something behind that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh, yeah, there's a lot behind it, No question, there's
a lot behind it. I think there's one of two
things behind it, and I'll let you and Sam, you
guys kind of bandied about. I think the first one
is that she did something to piss them off. Now,
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when we say something to piss them off, it's very
it's very normal for somebody who's in real life to
go like, oh, does that mean that you know she
was late? No, she's never late. Not prepared, No, she's
never not prepared. She drinks too much, drink on the job. No,
that's not her, right, None of those things are her.
(04:35):
My guess is that as this conversation, because remember there
was conversation in the regular season about them pulling her
from the number one team. Do you remember that? Okay?
That again, that conversation only gets out there if they
want it out there, and only gets out there if
they're gonna do it. It's just a question of when,
not if, when not if? So there's only three possible scenarios.
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One is they did something to piss off, pissed her off,
but she did something to piss them off. Two is
the other two on the crew like I can't work
with her. And three is they had to make this
statement because that was all part of them retaining the NBA,
and the NBA does the NBA didn't want you f
n Gundy on there. They thought he was too much
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of a negative Nancy. So this is their way of
making a statement to the NBA. Hey, we hear you.
You didn't want to doors perk. We're going to do better.
One two or three? JS two? Which one do you
think it is?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I really like I like the one where she pissed
the bosses off, Like maybe they went to her or
her representation and told her about this and she mother
f them, you know, and yeah, oh okay, so I
guess we'll we won't make this easy. We won't. We
won't give you a chance to kind of mutually mutually
you know, resign this.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Position or whatever very possible.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But now that's the sexiest one. I always like the
best storylines.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So that's whe're gonna go with. She told somebody to
fuck off. Yeah, I think it's more likely the last
one that the NBA this is kissing the NBA's butt
because they somehow had it that they want to make
a change, and they want everybody know there's a change.
And they didn't want doors Burke, and they're gonna want
him to add some former longtime coach. All right, if
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you everage Jefferson, you're gonna ender some longtime coach.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
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Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (06:32):
Let's welcome in. He has his own website, he has
his own WC Twitter page. He's the one only Kelly Ford,
and he joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. And he does what he does best,
which is help us with some predictive analysis. Okay with
k Forard Ratings. Follow on social media at k Ford
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Ratings right or go to Kford Ratings dot com. A
good snapshot of what the college football seed may look
like if you're shoven into a computer that puts together
all these petrics. Kelly, let's start with Texas and Ohio
State are what one in three in the rankings? Is
that right? Is that the rankings that you have for them?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
It is the rankings that I have for them, Doug.
It's good to be with you again here this season.
Excited about it, and this is the perfect game to
start with. And I say that we have seven hundred
and sixty plus games this fall that involve at least
one FBS team, and I give a watchability score to
all of them on a zero to ten scale. This
game Texas at Ohio State to start the year noon
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Big noon kickoff on Fox. It is the only game
of the entire regular season plate that scores a ten
point zero out of ten. So this is the biggest game,
not just of the week, perhaps of the year. Texas
for me is power rated number one in my model,
Ohio State number three in my model, so it does
match the AP rankings. And just like Vegas, I have
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Ohio State as a very small favorite here fifty eight
percent chance to win. Essentially it comes down to the
home field advantage. This case could also be made Doug.
For me, the worst unit in this game as of
now is the Texas offense. Of course, it's largely dependent
on how good is arch Manning. If he lives up
to the expectations and the hype that's almost you know,
unreal this year, Texas is going to be very, very
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difficult to beat. If he's merely good this year, Texas
has enough talent around him to make a deep run
in the cost Ball playoffs. So if Arch plays at
the level that many are projecting, that number twenty two
offensive unit ranking is going to shoot way up the boards.
But for now, that, coupled with the fact this game
in Columbus, are the reasons that my model get Ohio
State a fifty eight percent chance to win this one.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
How does this predicative analysis work considering some of these
teams have completely new teams.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, increasingly difficult every year, and I've had to actually
tweak my process for how I generate preseason ratings. So
we still are looking at returning production, of course, and
that returning production can either come from your team last
year or it can come through the transfer portal. And
of course, as you have players transferring, you have to
make adjustment scalers and modifiers as to the level of
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competition they faced a year ago versus what they're going
to be facing this year at their new program, their
new team. So returning production is huge. We're also looking at,
you know, how how good has your program been in
recent years, But that's that weight has been downgraded significantly
because of how rosters are constructed these days. It no
longer matters as much how good your program was a year, two, three,
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four years ago as it did when I started doing
this project. You know, six or seven seasons ago. What
matters more though than doug If that matters less, what
matters more coaching continuities. So that's something that really matters,
and I know you can appreciate that as well in
your role. If a coaching staff, head coach, offensive coordinator,
defensive coordinator have been together for a while, if they've
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performed well for a significant period of time, that improves
a team's preseason outlook. So I have changed how I
go about this process because college football has changed and
how rosters are constructed looks very different now than it
did even just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Let's get to LSU Clemson. That's this weekend Clemson. They
like to build from within, but there's the question of
do they have enough talent quoting against an LSU team
that they're constantly putting together new pieces in there and
obviously pushing limits of what you can spend in college
football free agency. Who's the computer like in LSU Clemson?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, this is my two game of the week in watchability,
Doug with a nine point eight out of ten, and
my model views these teams very comparably. Clemson number eight
in the model, LSU number nine, both offenses in the
top six, both defenses in the top twenty five. The
different here essentially the home field advantage and which depth
valley is the real depth valley I know, is a
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big storyline for this one. My model likes Clemson sixty
one percent chance to win it. It does give both
offenses the slight advantage as I noted there, but I
do think Clemson has just enough in this one, And Doug,
it's interesting because let's you's got plenty of big time
opportunities to you know, to build a resume throughout the year.
Clemson as the favorite in the ACC based on my
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I projected spreads right now there. If Clemson wins this one,
there are only two more games on their schedule in
which they're projected to have a one possession spread, and
they're projected favorite in both, but the first one is
not until Louisville in Week twelve Friday, night on the
road and then to end the regular season a trip
to South Carolina to play the game talk. I mean,
if Clemson gets by LSU here, there's a very good
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chance that we're talking about a nine to oh Clemson
team at worst, you know, heading into to November. So
Clemson's got a lot to play for here. LSU has
other opportunities, but this is really a chance for Clemson
to build a resume and establish themselves as not just
a favorite in the ACC, but a true national title contender.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In Week one, Stuck Gotleibs show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Great thing about this weekend is you have games all
weekend long, even into Monday. I'm fascinated by Notre Dame
in Miami. You know, Miami last year was good, but
they had an elite quarterback. But it's so hard to
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tell in that ACC because sometimes you know, this year
they have they open up with you know, they open
up with the Domers, right, who play kind of a
quasi ACC schedule. They do play Florida at home, right,
they go to SMU, but not the same level of
schedule you're used to because for GIA Tech has not
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viewed the same and the rest of the ACC is down.
What I think Notre Dame is a two and a
half point favorite, right, two and a half point favorite.
Carson Beck now the quarterback of the U. Who do
you like?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah? And done that Miami schedule, Doug. They missed Clemson
in conference play, so that's important to keep in mind too.
Notre Dame. I like them in this game. I've got
a sixty three expectancy. The fighting irish and really the
big difference here, even though the game is in South Florida.
The big difference here, Doug, is the only unit that
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ranks outside the top twelve nationally in this game is
the Miami defense that comes in at number forty nine.
So for me, that could be where this game is won.
Is that Notre Dame offense that's number twelve against a
number forty nine ranked Miami defense, which is an improvement
from a year ago. They were fifty eight last year
in my year end unit ratings. So I do expect
Miami to be better on the defensive side. But are
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they going to be good enough to slow down this
Notre Dame offense that I have in the top fifteen.
I'm not so sure. And I talked about Clemson and
how their kind of schedule plays out down the stretch.
For Notre Dame, it's even more even more point is
to start the season. Well, they start, of course with
this game at Miami, then they're oft in Week two,
Week three, Texas A and m comes into South Bend,
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and after that, Doug, there's not a single game left
on Notre Dame schedule that my numbers make a one
possession spread. So if Notre Dame and start this year,
you know, one in one or two and oh, you
can almost take a sharpie and get them into the
College Wall playoff bracket because the schedule is incredibly front
front loaded. Notre Dame knows that, Miami knows that too.
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But I think Notre Dame is going to come out
playing like their seasons on the line, because in a way,
you could argue the first two games really is the
biggest part of their regular season.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
South Carolina Virginia Tech. Any hope for Virginia Tech this
season as you have to get another Virginia Tech coach
on the hot seat?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah, I Virginia Tech. I expect them to take a
little bit of a step back this year. They were
thirty five in my year end power ratings last year,
I have them number forty two coming into this season.
If I look at this game in particular, I've got
a seventy two percent one expectancy for South Carolina. So
this is a multi score projected spread, just barely, but
it is a multi score projected spread. A lot of
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eyes going to be on this game on Sunday, new
neutral site game here, so that into it a little bit.
But I do think South Carolina is the better team.
I give them the advantage on both sides of the ball,
in particular on defense. Their defense is the best unit
in this game, coming in at number sixteen, and the
Virginia Tech offense is the worst unit in this game
at number forty nine. So you know, for the out
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you said, you know the outlook of Virginia Tech this year,
I've got seven and five as the most likely record
for this team. It's an eighty eight percent chance to
go bowling's a twenty one percent chance to win at
least nine games. So you know, I'm not picking Virginia
Tech to be in the ACC Championship game by any means.
They're currently fifth, though, and I projected ACC standings and
that's helped by the fact that they have among the
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easier schedules in ACC conference play. It's number thirteen out
of seventeen in scheduled difficulty South Carolina. We're talking about
schedules number eight most difficult schedule in the entire country
for the game COX this year. And they don't even
play Georgia or Texas or Tennessee or Florida or Auburn.
And it's still the number eight most difficult schedule because
that's how loaded the SEC is. So I like South
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Carolin in this game, but I do think Virginia Tech
can still have a decent year this year. You know,
if we define that as eight and four, let's say
there's a forty four percent chance that can reach at
least eight wins.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Kelly Ford K four ratings. Check him out on social media,
check him out online. He'll be with us all year long. Kelly,
You're the best, Kelly, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Thanks, Doug really get it always fun talking to you.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's find out Who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now
it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Hey, Doug. Chris Greer is the general manager of the Dolphins.
Chris Greer was asked about his interaction with fans, and
this is what he had to offer up.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I really have had many interactions with fans. No, when
I see guys, they're like, hey, if I'm out, people
have always been respectful and nice and they just say, hey,
you know, keep going, appreciate you. And so it's been
now the guys to my face have been nice. I
know there's people that are upset, but that's any job.
And if I was comfortable and saying I felt great
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about what things are, then I'm an asshole because I'm
not being realistic about where we are as a team
and where things are going so after last season, so
I'm frustrated like they are that we didn't win enough
games last year. So I understand it. Like I said,
I don't take things person but when i'm out, people
who have been generally, you know, very positive and stuff
to me. But I know there's guys. I mean, I've
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gotten some colorful emails with a couple of people, including
hoping my kids die of cancer, which is a fun one.
I was like, there you go. So that's why I
don't take things very personal rio because other people have
other issues and stuff in life.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And this comes a day after that report, Dustin May
says that his wife's social media account got a on
their dog's life, I'm going to kill your dog. So
when we made gambling legal right most states it's legal,
we were wondering, what are they going to be the
downstream implications of legalized gambling. I think the way that
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fans treat these team members, general manager, coach, and players,
it was the downstream stuff that I don't think people foresaw.
They're emboldened to do things like in Chris Greer's case,
wish that his kids had cancer, and in Dustin May's case,
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threatened to kill his dog. I think that other than
these like the societal issues where we just become more
degenerative as people, as people lose their money and their
homes and their marriages, I think this was a downstream
thing that nobody foresaw. The emboldened public to reach out
to these people that cost them money.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Uh yeah, you think, I just the I love that
term downstream and my can I can I use a
different term, and you see which one you like better.
I like downstream. I love the law of unintended consequences.
(19:22):
There you go, you know, which is a longer way
of saying what you're talking about, the unintended consequences of gambling.
And honestly, I think it's even worse in college because
you have now gambling in some of these states is legal,
and you have a switchover from the idea to amateurism
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to professionalism. Regardless of whether or not guys were getting
paid previously, or how much guys are even getting now,
they're viewed different. The perception is different. The perception is, hey,
you perform, you're going to get paid, so that if
you don't perform, well, you're not living up to your salary.
In regardless of the fact that even before they were
getting paid, your schools are still essentially making, you know,
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paying a bunch of money to recruit, to train, to retain,
to get guys, you know, get keep guys around campus
in the off season. They were still costing schools a
lot of money more so now, but a lot of money.
But again, I agree with you, just what you call
it downstream of law of undertended consequences. Gambling changes all
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of the energy and it makes it extremely negative, extremely
negative when teams don't perform.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think that there's a I got feedback on a
direct message recently that it seems that I've changed my
ire from gen Z to dumb people, and there is
something to that. But I will say this, I am
an equal cynic. I mean I'm sending, what is it,
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cyniccle of each equally. I think that gen Z has
a lot of issues, but I also think that our
country is getting a lot dumber by the day, less
sophisticated by the day. Don't get me started on the
results of putting kids in their homes and doing online
classes and the data that's shown that we got a
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whole lot dumber in the space of an eighteen month window.
But I want to talk about education. I think education
is important. I think an educated society will do better,
will behave better. You talk about the increase of crime,
whether or not you want to believe it or not,
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I think a less educated society is more susceptible to crime. Anyways,
Taylor Townsend is a tennis player. Taylor Townsend is a
black tennis player. I just point that out because there's
been some kind of racial aspect to this exchange. Taylor
Townsend had an exchange with an another tennis player at
the US Open and it got heated, and then after
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the after the match, Taylor Townsend proved to everybody that
her opponent might have been onto something.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Go ahead, Taylor, congratulations, fiery match, start to finish.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We'll get to it all.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Can you fill us in on the conversation you were
having with the Elena out there?
Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know, it's competition. People get upset when they lose,
and you can't. Some people say bad things. She told me,
I have no class, I have no education, and to
see what happens when we get outside the US. So
I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat her
in Canada outside the US. I beat her in New
York outside the US. So let's see what else she
has to say.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So ye, to prove that she is not not educated.
She said that she has beat their opponent on in
the United States, in the state of New York.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
She told me, I have no class, I have no education,
and to see what happens when we get outside the US.
So I'm looking forward to it. I mean I beat
her in Canada outside the US. I beat her in
New York outside the US. So let's see what else
she has to say.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait did she just said I
beat her in New York outside.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
The US to prove that she is not not educated.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Thanks for cleaning that up.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Opponents says, I'm not educated, but I beat her outside
the US in New York.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
In New York. Yes, that was outside of the US. Now,
if you can't fix ya, you can't fix stupid. You
can't fix stupid.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
That's kind of like the uh Doug. That's kind of
like the OJS when they sang Love Train and they
are saying, Hey, all the brothers over in Africa, and
they say, oh, and also in Egypt too, dot dot dot.
Egypt's in North Africa.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's in Africa though.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Yes, they said, all my brothers over in Africa, and
then he says in Egypt too. So yeah, that's yeah,
that's covered.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Thank you. Yesterday on the radio show, I voiced this opinion,
and you came up with a reason. I think Sam
was mostly in agreement with me, but I could be wrong.
I don't understand the hype about arch Manning. I don't
understand why he is just starting his first college football game.
If he's this good, if he is like the consensus
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number one overall pick that the Saints and the Browns
and other teams should tank this season to get Arch,
then why hasn't he been a starter on an NFL team.
I think you offered up the reasoning or examples of
Justin Fields and Joe Burrow, But I want, I just
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I want more information on this. So Jordan Rodgers is
known for three things. Jordan Rodgers is the estranged brother
of Aaron. He won the Bachelorette. I think he's still
with his partner in the Bachelorette Jojo. And then now
he is doing in SEC commentary and he said something
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that's very interesting. This is a person who covers Texas
and the SEC talking about Arch Manning.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
But I will say, and I'm gonna say this, I
don't know what you guys talked about when I went
off here. The hepe doesn't match the tape.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
There are good.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Things, and there are some good things, but the height
or the tape to me, doesn't tell you got a
first round draft pick, or a top ten or number
one overall draft pick, or a Heisman hopeful I think
he's gonna go into Ohio State and he's gonna struggle
because he hasn't played anybody. The last time we saw
him against a really good defense was Georgia, and he
looked out of place. Right, he looked really good against UTSA, Louisiana, Monroe.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And Mississippi State, the worst defense in the SEC.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I think there's still a lot for him to grow,
and a lot we need to see.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like Lewis said, feels like there's need to be there
needs to be more voices like Jordan. I feel like
most people are falling in line with the hype.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, I mean, I just think most people don't know.
And my thing is, again, just because you have potential
doesn't mean you help a team win immediately. And I
don't think anything will ever match up with the hype
because he's a Manning and his uncles are Hall of Famers,
and he's at Texas, which is already hyped. I do
(26:16):
like Jordan's perception on it. You know, if he can
show us on tape what he means, then absolutely I'm
off for it. I think more people should get that,
should have that.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
So people being in bold in to tell Chris career
that his kids should get cancer, and Dustin May they
want to kill dozen May's dog, uneducated people, and the
archman in hype. Those are the topics to choose from
today for most annoying of the day. Do got with
this is a doozy, Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I do think that people telling Chris Greer's kids that
they should get cancer and die is that type of
shit is the most annoying thing ever. You're annoying?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
For those that don't note, Donald Trump won the presidency
in twenty twenty four. He was running against Kamala Harris.
Her selected running mate was a gentleman named Tim Walsh.
He's the governor of Minnesota. Tim Watsh two days ago,
two days ago made these comments publicly now. Earlier in
(27:28):
the week, Doug, in this very segment, we talked about
Joey Taylor's hypocrisy, right, she's very woke, and then she
thought it was okay to tell a fat joke about
a black eye, and I thought, that's hypocritical, Like you're
going right to the marginalized obese people. I thought they
(27:49):
were part of the people that you brought into the
tent you didn't alienate, right. Tim Walts does a great
job of kind of proving my point on this. Imagine
if he was talking about a woman here and.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
I am proud of this state like so many others.
And I will have to tell you the privilege of
my lifetime was stand beside someone we know was the
most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in
a president Harris. And look, we wouldn't wake up every
day to a bunch of shit on TV and a
(28:23):
bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
We would wake up to an adult with compassion and
dignity and vision and leadership doing the work, not a
manchild crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat
ankles find something today, Petty as Hall.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I mean, I mean he is. Isn't he called tampon? Tim?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Is?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Right? That is? Like, I here's the thing, Jase two is.
I was thinking about this. We were doing a topic
last week this week or something, and I was thinking
of dirtiest businesses and I was like, well, politics, you
can't even put on the list because it's so much
dirtier than any other business. So I hear you on
the hypocrisy, but I also tell you that it's politics.
(29:15):
So they're kind of are no rules, right they are
you fat?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Not anymore there are any rules? Like the current president
has lowered the bar for discourse, like you see Gavin
Newsom and you see Tim Walls. They're dropping shit and
fuck bombs publicly, yet it never happened before Trump. And
you're and you're gonna tell me, I just started talking
about how much dumber we are as a society. You're
telling me that having the people that represent us dropping
(29:44):
f bombs publicly and talking about fat ankles, you think
this is this is a great representation for this country.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't think anybody does. Don't it don't So why
do we play it for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the end of the Modus podcast. You Got
the Right radio show every day three to five Eastern
Twalty Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlie
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