September 23, 2025 • 24 mins
Doug takes Michael Wilbon to task over his comments regarding Bruce Pearl. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on the Ravens. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Todd Bowles makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlie Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up, Doug gott bleep Show, Foport Radio and Doubs.
So let's get after it. Obviously with the radio show,
we got a chance to talk about Mike Gundy's firing
today and shared my thoughts on it. But yesterday Bruce
(00:32):
Pearl announced the retirement and we talked about it, uh
in the radio show because it happened right before the
radio show. And like, look, Michael Wilbon, I just I
don't know, and there's obviously some negative energy behind you know,
it feels like, you know, playing politics here. Wilbon says
(00:53):
that Bruce Pearl was divisive. He didn't retire because he
was divisive. Nobody wanted him gone from Auburn. They just
went to the final four, you know. So he tweets
his support of the president and of Israel. Okay, you
do know he works in Auburn, Alabama. Like what are
(01:15):
you even talking about? So that one feels if you
watch PTI, you've seen any of the clips on it,
that one feels like Wilbond either reacting to Pearl's Twitter
or just too wrapped up in the political stuff to think, well,
he's got it. This has got to be divisive, like
it's actually not, especially not in Auburn, Alabama. But here's
part of the eruption yesterday when they were doing happy trails.
(01:37):
This is Mike Wilbon talking about Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach,
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletics department.
In his place, the school gave a five year deal
to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He has
had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which made
the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen. His
decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did the
(02:01):
same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not run
for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Tony.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
And I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Really, I really liked him, and he was such a
great guest. On the other side on him.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah again, so so super super weird, right, didn't make
any any sense to me. And it obviously feels like,
you know, whatever he said on Twitter, that's that's what
it's in regards to. But I think the thing that's
here's my tago embers Pearl. He is the quintessential college
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basketball coach in both the good and the bad way.
He is a caricature. Here's a guy who is a
manager in college, worked his way up, you know. He
the allegations were always that he you know, he recorded
a phone call with an Illinois signee back in the
day and to put Illinois on probation. Right then he
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got on his own probation when he was at Tennessee
for a barbecue. He was a Division two coach, won
a national championship two Division one coach. There was a
combination of both shadiness and honestly trying to help people,
you know, shadiness in recruiting, which it just all kind
of tracks to what college basketball coaches are known for.
(03:25):
I again, I'm not saying me. I try not to
be a caricature. I try to be who I am.
But remember, like Bruce Pearl is a heardened Jew and
yet if you are around him and all, he celebrates
Christianity for his players, it's like the ability to be
the everyman, to blend into any place, to if everybody's Christian,
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he can be Christian. If everybody's Jewish, he can be Jewish.
And to just be likable, energetic, always around it. And
yet and oh yeah, by the way, a really good
basketball coach, but a bit of a Carnival Barker. There's
all these different elements to it. But if you said, hey,
like what makes college basketball coaches unique in how they
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are really these warm, genuous, generous, genuine people. And yet
sometimes you're like, wait, am I being recruited or does
he actually like me? That's Bruce Pearl. And and if
Mike Wilburn actually think he's like, well they should have
just got rid of like he went to the Final
four last year. He's done an amazing job at Auburn.
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So stop making it about your own political feelings, Mike,
and just you know, make your comments, which it look
it's fine, like Mike's allowed to say. That's part of
the beauty of that show. That one was a weird one.
And I think when I look at when I look
at Pearl, I think he's the quintessential college basketball coach.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
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Speaker 2 (04:56):
Let's get to the Foxes and now every day of
this time that Doug Gotlib Show. In the Bonus Podcast,
we played for you a portion of a previous show
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's the Great Dan
Patrick talking about the Ravens loss to the Lions last night.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Watching the game last night and watching what the Lions
did to the Ravens made me wonder where did the
Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens
had a great defense. They always had a great defense
and opportunistic defense. They forced turnovers, they got sacks, and
they led with their defense. Now they're an offensive minded team,
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which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better
than your offense. And the Lions offense last night was that.
When you have two drives over ninety five yards, you're
sending a real loud message to the other team. You
can't stop us. You could only hope to contain us.
(05:55):
That's old school. That's not flashy, that's not tricky, that's just, hey,
we're gonna run.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We're gonna run over there.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Montgomery's gonna run over there, Jami or Gibbs is gonna
run there. That's when you take a team's heart away.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Uh yeah, I think he's right, Like he talked about
taking the team's hard away. I do think that Derek
Henry fumbling again, I mean, it clearly sucked the energy
out of that building. It was a It was a
good football games. There are two good football teams. It
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shouldn't be lost in the fact that after they fell
behind after the fumble, the Ravens had the ball back
and I don't even know if they got a yard
in their next possession, you know. So one of the
things about as much as we can say the defensive
defensive defense, and it wasn't as good as reputation wise
it's supposed to be. But the offense has you know,
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they've in the Buffalo game, there was two other three
and outs as well as a fumble, and so it's
what are we doing in the fourth quarter. It's really
interesting though, because you have the highest the guy with
the highest passer rating in the history of the sport,
and in the fourth quarter there just isn't the faith
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that he can drop back and make the make the
plays that some others can. He's got a really talented
wide receiving core, good offensive coordinator, and he's again statistically
really really good. But in those moments and where they
need to move the football, they do not. So yeah,
I don't. It's weird. It's like you're you're there, there's
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are Those are two games against two playoff teams. I'm
talking about the Bills game and the Lions game, where
they were probably for many parts of it as good
or better, and as good or better on offense, and
yet while the defense did let you down some a turnover,
help the other team get another possession, and then the
offense can't pick up the slack. It's really weird. It's
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also very early, but this is a continuing trend for
the for the Raven. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about the
Giants decision to name Jackson Dart the starter for the
upcoming upcoming weeks game.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
The New York Giants have named Jackson Dart as the
new starter. The Giants are zero to three outside of
that Dallas game. They can't move the ball. Jay McK
and I have discussed this before. I don't ever remember
a quarterback going from elite to nobody wants to be
his coach faster than Russell Wilson, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll
(08:28):
both moved off him quickly. He went to the Steelers,
they moved off him, and now Brian Dabole is moving
off him as a starter. So Jackson Dart again, you
had a very small sample size. But my take is
there's five or six quarterbacks next year that could go
in the first or early second round or about there. Right,
(08:50):
you got to figure out if Jackson Dart's the guy.
I'm not looking for wins with Jackson Dart. I don't
care if he wins, wins game. Is he comfortable? Does
he see the field? You know? My take is the
Russell Wilson thing. I've never seen anything like it. Russell
Wilson did not have a major injury, and Pete Carroll
couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Sean Payton's like,
(09:12):
I'm done, Pittsburgh moved off him, and the Giants now
after three games it's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, it's really crazy, I mean, super super crazy. What's happened?
I thought that was the story too. Jase Do and
I discussed this before the show, which is the story
is not Jackson Dart. The story is Russell Wilson's never
going to be a starting quarterback. Doesn't mean he won't
start a game, but in order to start a game,
he's gonna have to be a backup quarterback. And maybe
that's later this year with the Giants, or maybe it's
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because of injury or whatever, and so now he has
to run the risk of being a Hall of Fame
player who is a backup quarterback. And I don't think
that happens. Yeah, I thought it wasn't for the Giants.
I didn't think he would be in the NFL this year,
and I don't think he's in the NFL next year.
Not because he couldn't be a backup, because he doesn't
want to be. That's not who he is. He'll probably
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do television, but it's a it's a precipitous decline. Precipitous decline.
This is This is Chris Brusard talking about the Packers.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
The Browns. The Browns whose quarterback has two touchdowns and
four interceptions this season, that's.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Who you lose to.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
I don't like it one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Bet, I love it. I love this.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
I love it because it is just what the doctor ordered.
They were way they win two games over two good teams,
and now they got their offensive lineman talking about we
want to go undefeated.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They clearly went in the.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Cleveland taking the browns lightly. They felt like they were
playing a college team because the way they pushed around
on the line of scrimmage on both sides, like they
have been shutting everybody down in the.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Right total Hackers defense was pretty the.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Defense was fine, but they have been shutting everybody down
in the run. So to me, this is I'm serious,
this is what they needed. They were a little bit
cocky and thinking that hey we got Micah, We're the
best team in NFC. We've arrived, and now they know
they gotta get back into the lab.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think it's a pretty good take, you know. And
obviously that's the research new thing. I don't I don't
like it. I love it, and it's that that show
has become actually pretty fun. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Say.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Let's find out who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Hey, Doug, I heard you're open about about Bruce Pearl.
I have one one comment about the Mike on Michael Wilbon.
Sound hear that again?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletic
department in his place. The school gave a five year
deal to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He
has had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which
made the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen.
His decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did
(12:35):
the same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not
run for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Tony.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
and I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Really, I would liked him. He was such a great guest.
He'll learned the other side on him.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
By the way, is Tony really I think? Yeah, don't
see that one at all.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
I think Carnheiser was thrown by that. Yeah, he was
he's been divisive intentionally. There's a lot of those are
really power packed words.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Okay, can we can we can we first break down
the word, isn't it divisive?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Sure?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Divisive? Divisive? But over the past two weeks something, something
really really awful happened. What two weeks ago on the
tenth of September, and divisive divisive has been the buzzword
to utilize when someone says something right leaning that you
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disagree with, that person is obviously divisive. The person at
the top, the president of the United States, is the
most divisive president in the history of mankind.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We can all agree with that.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
His surrogates, his advocates by association, I guess, are just
all divisive as well. And in Wilbond's opinion, he's intentionally
divisive to do what what does that even? What does
that even mean? He took a shot at Obama three
or four weeks ago, he said Obama was the did horrible,
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he was horrible for race relations. And Bruce Pearl, if
you listen to it in context, and I'm guessing Will
Bond has become a victim of the algorithm, right, Bruce
Pearl gets fired and on Wilbond's algorithm on social media
are all of these clips of him saying awful shit. Right.
(14:38):
So the context of Bruce Pearl's comments about Obama was
that it's really hard for Bruce Pearl, a white coach
of black players, to go to his players and be like,
you have a fair shot at life. You can do
whatever you want if you put in the work. When
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the President of the United st States between two thousand
and eight and twenty sixteen kept saying that blacks are
lay behind and it's a good chance they're not going
to get ahead, and that's what Bruce Pearl's that's where
the comments came from. That Obama was horrible for race
relations because he kept telling black people that they had
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no shot. And so agree with that or not, that's
not divisive, that's just that's that is Bruce Pearl's opinion.
And for bl bon to like do this intentionally divisive thing,
I don't know. Again, it's the buzzword over the last
two weeks. That's getting really old.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, it's it's weird. I don't we don't know because
and he had the forum to give context to it,
he chose not to. I just don't think he's been
divisive only in that I don't know how much people
actually pay attention to a college basketball coach and his
comments about race or religion or whatever. Right, Like, he
is a gigantic supporter of Israel, right, we both are.
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He's a friend of mine. I don't agree with him,
as I think most of you listen to us know,
like our politics are different. It was okay, you know,
our politics are the same on Israel. They're different on
just about everything else. And the only reason he can
speak out is because he's the best coach in the
history of Auburn basketball. It also should be pointed out
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that a lot of his politics again, and I'll take
him at his word what he believes. It's also the
base of Auburn fans. Right, So the idea that they
would ever run him out of town and he's beloved
is hysterical. And the thing that it's lacking is that,
like you said, victim out of the algorithm is great.
(16:44):
That's the perfect way to say it. You know, if
you just watch or just read his post, so they
just pop up in the algorithm, you're like, well, this guy,
But again, like as I said, he's the quintessential college
basketball coach. It's way more complex than that, and there's
always a little snake oil sales been to it. There's
also a guy who actually wants to help people. I
don't I don't know if we've ever gotten this discussion.
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My late coach, Coach Sutton, would always say that college
basketball coach is buying large for democrats, college football coach
for Republicans. And the the reason that most of them
were Democrats, white, black, or otherwise is that you're you know,
it's it's become an expression of bleeding heart liberal right
where you care so much about other people you want
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to help those people. It's different to have a college
basketball coach clearly side with a Republican base, but it's
also the base of his fans. And if he was divisive,
then how would he continue to get quality player after
quality player to play for him. It doesn't make any sense.
So yeah, it felt like a needless, cheap shot. It
did feel like, Hey, I'm in the algorithm and he
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says things I don't like, so he must be divisive,
not understanding context, not by paying attention to the sport.
I mean, what again, will Bond's allowed to say what
he wants to say, not just because he's on the
best sports show in the history of the medium, but
because that's, you know, the basis of how we do
things in the country. Now, it's not for your ramification.
(18:12):
It's not that there should be for this one. The
only ramification should be like, dude, what what are you doing?
He's divisive in what way? Support your argument would be?
Would be my would be my calend because I don't
think anybody actually cares in like in his gym, they
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don't care. The only thing divisive there is a making
making them hire your son, Stephen, who I like and
I hope he does unbelievable things like now that could
be divisive right where you put your family and you know,
your son ahead of that of the school where you're
still going to collect checks from. But uh, you know
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I again, that's why he retired. When he retired, say I'm.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Sorry to getting into John Ramos, who had annoy semos nepotism. Man,
that's a whole new opening, a whole new can of worms.
I want to follow up on something we did yesterday
during your annoying remember Rashid Walker line in for the Packers,
said this last week of the Packers were two and oh.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That's why we well two O right now, and then
the goal is, you know, keep it going.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I've may even going defeated. Honestly so.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Matt before in the wake of them getting beat by
the Browns was not happy when he was reminded of
that comment.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I just think this league is such a week to
week league and you can never lose sight of that,
and you can't take any moment, any game for granted.
And the goal and I've said it a million times
to you guys, I don't think I've obviously said it
enough to our team. The goal is to go one
to oh every week. And it pisses me off when
we start talking about things outside of the next game,
things that are way down the road, like focus on
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keep to focus on the present, on the now, and
worry about getting better each and every day.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
This guy is usually pretty cool in front of reporters.
He sounds really angry there, Doug. How how pissed off
must he have been towards the player or his player's coach.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Pretty pissed off. I mean there was nothing, really, It
wasn't like he called out other teams. He just goes, hey,
I think we go unefeed it. But yeah, those are
trigger words for coaches to like. And then and then
you don't play well against the against the Browns, especially
the offensive line, and what did you expect him to
be happy with it? But it did? It did feel
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like an immature comment from a young team that suddenly
now is the hunt did not don DRR and I
think there's some adjustment that needs to be made.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
So uh.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Jerry Jones was asked about Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons visits
Dallas this week and he was asked, it looks like
uh John Man, John Manchota Machoda asked him, uh, if
the Cowboys plan on doing a video tribute to Micah Parsons.
(21:06):
Jerry Jones says, I don't think that's appropriate. Uh this way.
Emmett Smith was a different story. But that's not to
diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough enough welcome out there.
We just need to show we've got antidotes for that.
I don't even know what that means, but I resent
the question. I resent the question. Why the hell would
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the Cowboys have a tribute to Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
He was because it's fucking stupid. This is what fucking
this is what fucking marketing people do. They do this
fucking video tribute shit, which they shouldn't do for a
lot of people. Micah Parsons is a hell of a player.
Happy to have him here in Green Bay, but he
held out while he's under contract his rookie contract, played
four really good years for the Cowboys, and on his
rookie contract he could not come to an agreement on
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an extension, and so he forced his way out. He
kind of acted like a little bit of a clown
in the way out. Whatever, and that's it. That's business, okay.
But part of business is you want you want a
tribute video, you gotta make it to your second fucking contract.
You got to make it to where you're an unquestioned
Hall of Fame player, or we accomplish something, we win
something we did not. I actually thought it was a
good question because it gave Jerry Jones the chance to
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act like we're acting, which is like what, But he didn't.
He just said as Emma Smith's different story, which he is.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
And that's the thing. It's like, Michael Parsons, the tribute
would be for the fans, and if you're a Cowboy fan,
you're gonna have one of two reactions to a tribute video. First,
like this is reminding us that we don't have Michael
Parsons and it sucks. The last nine months sucked, like
that was awful and our season's dead because of it.
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So I don't know why you'd want to do that.
And then also Michael Parsons, I gave up on you
if you're a fan, like he just shit all over you.
And his agent said that Jerry Jones, he told the agent.
I guess the agent said to Jerry Jones to go
fuck off or something with that one offer, Like it
was just ugly and he was like, Semi, I don't know,
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injured in camp and was playing this game where he'd
show up you talking about being divisive. There you go,
there you go. So we got Michael Parsons tribute stupidity,
the undefeated season talk, and Will Bond's divisive talk.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh, I think Will Bondo wins this one. Just the
insistence that somebody who offers an opinion different than yours
is divisive is annoy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
The head coach that I'm really I've gotten alec a
lot more in recent years is Todd Bowles And he really,
he really captured me or got me on his side
in the wake of the like twenty one two when
you're still coming out of that stupid woke thing and
a reporter tried to gotcha him with uh with you know,
(24:06):
being friends with another black quarter or another black head
coach and what does it mean to be a black
head coach? And Todd Bowles wasn't having any of it, Like,
we coach Baul, That's what we do. That's all I
care about. We coach ball. So I guess it was
Sunday night or yesterday he chose to do this in
a press conference.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Oh my thoughts were going for around four testown excuse
my language, Like you gotta fucking be shitting me.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But I love Tod Bulls big fan of Todd Bules
as well. And oh yeah, by the way, you got
to be shipping me. Baker Mayfield did it again? Why
could we play for you? Because we can't. That's it
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up, Doug gott bleep Show, Foport Radio and Doubs.
So let's get after it. Obviously with the radio show,
we got a chance to talk about Mike Gundy's firing
today and shared my thoughts on it. But yesterday Bruce
(00:32):
Pearl announced the retirement and we talked about it, uh
in the radio show because it happened right before the
radio show. And like, look, Michael Wilbon, I just I
don't know, and there's obviously some negative energy behind you know,
it feels like, you know, playing politics here. Wilbon says
(00:53):
that Bruce Pearl was divisive. He didn't retire because he
was divisive. Nobody wanted him gone from Auburn. They just
went to the final four, you know. So he tweets
his support of the president and of Israel. Okay, you
do know he works in Auburn, Alabama. Like what are
(01:15):
you even talking about? So that one feels if you
watch PTI, you've seen any of the clips on it,
that one feels like Wilbond either reacting to Pearl's Twitter
or just too wrapped up in the political stuff to think, well,
he's got it. This has got to be divisive, like
it's actually not, especially not in Auburn, Alabama. But here's
part of the eruption yesterday when they were doing happy trails.
(01:37):
This is Mike Wilbon talking about Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach,
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletics department.
In his place, the school gave a five year deal
to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He has
had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which made
the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen. His
decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did the
(02:01):
same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not run
for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Tony.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
And I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Really, I really liked him, and he was such a
great guest. On the other side on him.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah again, so so super super weird, right, didn't make
any any sense to me. And it obviously feels like,
you know, whatever he said on Twitter, that's that's what
it's in regards to. But I think the thing that's
here's my tago embers Pearl. He is the quintessential college
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basketball coach in both the good and the bad way.
He is a caricature. Here's a guy who is a
manager in college, worked his way up, you know. He
the allegations were always that he you know, he recorded
a phone call with an Illinois signee back in the
day and to put Illinois on probation. Right then he
(03:03):
got on his own probation when he was at Tennessee
for a barbecue. He was a Division two coach, won
a national championship two Division one coach. There was a
combination of both shadiness and honestly trying to help people,
you know, shadiness in recruiting, which it just all kind
of tracks to what college basketball coaches are known for.
(03:25):
I again, I'm not saying me. I try not to
be a caricature. I try to be who I am.
But remember, like Bruce Pearl is a heardened Jew and
yet if you are around him and all, he celebrates
Christianity for his players, it's like the ability to be
the everyman, to blend into any place, to if everybody's Christian,
(03:46):
he can be Christian. If everybody's Jewish, he can be Jewish.
And to just be likable, energetic, always around it. And
yet and oh yeah, by the way, a really good
basketball coach, but a bit of a Carnival Barker. There's
all these different elements to it. But if you said, hey,
like what makes college basketball coaches unique in how they
(04:08):
are really these warm, genuous, generous, genuine people. And yet
sometimes you're like, wait, am I being recruited or does
he actually like me? That's Bruce Pearl. And and if
Mike Wilburn actually think he's like, well they should have
just got rid of like he went to the Final
four last year. He's done an amazing job at Auburn.
(04:30):
So stop making it about your own political feelings, Mike,
and just you know, make your comments, which it look
it's fine, like Mike's allowed to say. That's part of
the beauty of that show. That one was a weird one.
And I think when I look at when I look
at Pearl, I think he's the quintessential college basketball coach.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
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Speaker 2 (04:56):
Let's get to the Foxes and now every day of
this time that Doug Gotlib Show. In the Bonus Podcast,
we played for you a portion of a previous show
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's the Great Dan
Patrick talking about the Ravens loss to the Lions last night.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Watching the game last night and watching what the Lions
did to the Ravens made me wonder where did the
Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens
had a great defense. They always had a great defense
and opportunistic defense. They forced turnovers, they got sacks, and
they led with their defense. Now they're an offensive minded team,
(05:35):
which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better
than your offense. And the Lions offense last night was that.
When you have two drives over ninety five yards, you're
sending a real loud message to the other team. You
can't stop us. You could only hope to contain us.
(05:55):
That's old school. That's not flashy, that's not tricky, that's just, hey,
we're gonna run.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We're gonna run over there.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Montgomery's gonna run over there, Jami or Gibbs is gonna
run there. That's when you take a team's heart away.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Uh yeah, I think he's right, Like he talked about
taking the team's hard away. I do think that Derek
Henry fumbling again, I mean, it clearly sucked the energy
out of that building. It was a It was a
good football games. There are two good football teams. It
(06:34):
shouldn't be lost in the fact that after they fell
behind after the fumble, the Ravens had the ball back
and I don't even know if they got a yard
in their next possession, you know. So one of the
things about as much as we can say the defensive
defensive defense, and it wasn't as good as reputation wise
it's supposed to be. But the offense has you know,
(06:54):
they've in the Buffalo game, there was two other three
and outs as well as a fumble, and so it's
what are we doing in the fourth quarter. It's really
interesting though, because you have the highest the guy with
the highest passer rating in the history of the sport,
and in the fourth quarter there just isn't the faith
(07:14):
that he can drop back and make the make the
plays that some others can. He's got a really talented
wide receiving core, good offensive coordinator, and he's again statistically
really really good. But in those moments and where they
need to move the football, they do not. So yeah,
I don't. It's weird. It's like you're you're there, there's
(07:36):
are Those are two games against two playoff teams. I'm
talking about the Bills game and the Lions game, where
they were probably for many parts of it as good
or better, and as good or better on offense, and
yet while the defense did let you down some a turnover,
help the other team get another possession, and then the
offense can't pick up the slack. It's really weird. It's
(07:56):
also very early, but this is a continuing trend for
the for the Raven. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about the
Giants decision to name Jackson Dart the starter for the
upcoming upcoming weeks game.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
The New York Giants have named Jackson Dart as the
new starter. The Giants are zero to three outside of
that Dallas game. They can't move the ball. Jay McK
and I have discussed this before. I don't ever remember
a quarterback going from elite to nobody wants to be
his coach faster than Russell Wilson, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll
(08:28):
both moved off him quickly. He went to the Steelers,
they moved off him, and now Brian Dabole is moving
off him as a starter. So Jackson Dart again, you
had a very small sample size. But my take is
there's five or six quarterbacks next year that could go
in the first or early second round or about there. Right,
(08:50):
you got to figure out if Jackson Dart's the guy.
I'm not looking for wins with Jackson Dart. I don't
care if he wins, wins game. Is he comfortable? Does
he see the field? You know? My take is the
Russell Wilson thing. I've never seen anything like it. Russell
Wilson did not have a major injury, and Pete Carroll
couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Sean Payton's like,
(09:12):
I'm done, Pittsburgh moved off him, and the Giants now
after three games it's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, it's really crazy, I mean, super super crazy. What's happened?
I thought that was the story too. Jase Do and
I discussed this before the show, which is the story
is not Jackson Dart. The story is Russell Wilson's never
going to be a starting quarterback. Doesn't mean he won't
start a game, but in order to start a game,
he's gonna have to be a backup quarterback. And maybe
that's later this year with the Giants, or maybe it's
(09:40):
because of injury or whatever, and so now he has
to run the risk of being a Hall of Fame
player who is a backup quarterback. And I don't think
that happens. Yeah, I thought it wasn't for the Giants.
I didn't think he would be in the NFL this year,
and I don't think he's in the NFL next year.
Not because he couldn't be a backup, because he doesn't
want to be. That's not who he is. He'll probably
(10:01):
do television, but it's a it's a precipitous decline. Precipitous decline.
This is This is Chris Brusard talking about the Packers.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
The Browns. The Browns whose quarterback has two touchdowns and
four interceptions this season, that's.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Who you lose to.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
I don't like it one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Bet, I love it. I love this.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
I love it because it is just what the doctor ordered.
They were way they win two games over two good teams,
and now they got their offensive lineman talking about we
want to go undefeated.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They clearly went in the.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Cleveland taking the browns lightly. They felt like they were
playing a college team because the way they pushed around
on the line of scrimmage on both sides, like they
have been shutting everybody down in the.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Right total Hackers defense was pretty the.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Defense was fine, but they have been shutting everybody down
in the run. So to me, this is I'm serious,
this is what they needed. They were a little bit
cocky and thinking that hey we got Micah, We're the
best team in NFC. We've arrived, and now they know
they gotta get back into the lab.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think it's a pretty good take, you know. And
obviously that's the research new thing. I don't I don't
like it. I love it, and it's that that show
has become actually pretty fun. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Say.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Let's find out who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Hey, Doug, I heard you're open about about Bruce Pearl.
I have one one comment about the Mike on Michael Wilbon.
Sound hear that again?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach
is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletic
department in his place. The school gave a five year
deal to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He
has had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which
made the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen.
His decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did
(12:35):
the same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not
run for the US Senate, something that had been rumored.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Tony.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally,
and I hope there was pressure to just get him out.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Really, I would liked him. He was such a great guest.
He'll learned the other side on him.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
By the way, is Tony really I think? Yeah, don't
see that one at all.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
I think Carnheiser was thrown by that. Yeah, he was
he's been divisive intentionally. There's a lot of those are
really power packed words.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Okay, can we can we can we first break down
the word, isn't it divisive?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Sure?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Divisive? Divisive? But over the past two weeks something, something
really really awful happened. What two weeks ago on the
tenth of September, and divisive divisive has been the buzzword
to utilize when someone says something right leaning that you
(13:37):
disagree with, that person is obviously divisive. The person at
the top, the president of the United States, is the
most divisive president in the history of mankind.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We can all agree with that.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
His surrogates, his advocates by association, I guess, are just
all divisive as well. And in Wilbond's opinion, he's intentionally
divisive to do what what does that even? What does
that even mean? He took a shot at Obama three
or four weeks ago, he said Obama was the did horrible,
(14:17):
he was horrible for race relations. And Bruce Pearl, if
you listen to it in context, and I'm guessing Will
Bond has become a victim of the algorithm, right, Bruce
Pearl gets fired and on Wilbond's algorithm on social media
are all of these clips of him saying awful shit. Right.
(14:38):
So the context of Bruce Pearl's comments about Obama was
that it's really hard for Bruce Pearl, a white coach
of black players, to go to his players and be like,
you have a fair shot at life. You can do
whatever you want if you put in the work. When
(14:59):
the President of the United st States between two thousand
and eight and twenty sixteen kept saying that blacks are
lay behind and it's a good chance they're not going
to get ahead, and that's what Bruce Pearl's that's where
the comments came from. That Obama was horrible for race
relations because he kept telling black people that they had
(15:20):
no shot. And so agree with that or not, that's
not divisive, that's just that's that is Bruce Pearl's opinion.
And for bl bon to like do this intentionally divisive thing,
I don't know. Again, it's the buzzword over the last
two weeks. That's getting really old.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, it's it's weird. I don't we don't know because
and he had the forum to give context to it,
he chose not to. I just don't think he's been
divisive only in that I don't know how much people
actually pay attention to a college basketball coach and his
comments about race or religion or whatever. Right, Like, he
is a gigantic supporter of Israel, right, we both are.
(16:03):
He's a friend of mine. I don't agree with him,
as I think most of you listen to us know,
like our politics are different. It was okay, you know,
our politics are the same on Israel. They're different on
just about everything else. And the only reason he can
speak out is because he's the best coach in the
history of Auburn basketball. It also should be pointed out
(16:23):
that a lot of his politics again, and I'll take
him at his word what he believes. It's also the
base of Auburn fans. Right, So the idea that they
would ever run him out of town and he's beloved
is hysterical. And the thing that it's lacking is that,
like you said, victim out of the algorithm is great.
(16:44):
That's the perfect way to say it. You know, if
you just watch or just read his post, so they
just pop up in the algorithm, you're like, well, this guy,
But again, like as I said, he's the quintessential college
basketball coach. It's way more complex than that, and there's
always a little snake oil sales been to it. There's
also a guy who actually wants to help people. I
don't I don't know if we've ever gotten this discussion.
(17:06):
My late coach, Coach Sutton, would always say that college
basketball coach is buying large for democrats, college football coach
for Republicans. And the the reason that most of them
were Democrats, white, black, or otherwise is that you're you know,
it's it's become an expression of bleeding heart liberal right
where you care so much about other people you want
(17:27):
to help those people. It's different to have a college
basketball coach clearly side with a Republican base, but it's
also the base of his fans. And if he was divisive,
then how would he continue to get quality player after
quality player to play for him. It doesn't make any sense.
So yeah, it felt like a needless, cheap shot. It
did feel like, Hey, I'm in the algorithm and he
(17:50):
says things I don't like, so he must be divisive,
not understanding context, not by paying attention to the sport.
I mean, what again, will Bond's allowed to say what
he wants to say, not just because he's on the
best sports show in the history of the medium, but
because that's, you know, the basis of how we do
things in the country. Now, it's not for your ramification.
(18:12):
It's not that there should be for this one. The
only ramification should be like, dude, what what are you doing?
He's divisive in what way? Support your argument would be?
Would be my would be my calend because I don't
think anybody actually cares in like in his gym, they
(18:32):
don't care. The only thing divisive there is a making
making them hire your son, Stephen, who I like and
I hope he does unbelievable things like now that could
be divisive right where you put your family and you know,
your son ahead of that of the school where you're
still going to collect checks from. But uh, you know
(18:55):
I again, that's why he retired. When he retired, say I'm.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Sorry to getting into John Ramos, who had annoy semos nepotism. Man,
that's a whole new opening, a whole new can of worms.
I want to follow up on something we did yesterday
during your annoying remember Rashid Walker line in for the Packers,
said this last week of the Packers were two and oh.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That's why we well two O right now, and then
the goal is, you know, keep it going.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I've may even going defeated. Honestly so.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Matt before in the wake of them getting beat by
the Browns was not happy when he was reminded of
that comment.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I just think this league is such a week to
week league and you can never lose sight of that,
and you can't take any moment, any game for granted.
And the goal and I've said it a million times
to you guys, I don't think I've obviously said it
enough to our team. The goal is to go one
to oh every week. And it pisses me off when
we start talking about things outside of the next game,
things that are way down the road, like focus on
(19:59):
keep to focus on the present, on the now, and
worry about getting better each and every day.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
This guy is usually pretty cool in front of reporters.
He sounds really angry there, Doug. How how pissed off
must he have been towards the player or his player's coach.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Pretty pissed off. I mean there was nothing, really, It
wasn't like he called out other teams. He just goes, hey,
I think we go unefeed it. But yeah, those are
trigger words for coaches to like. And then and then
you don't play well against the against the Browns, especially
the offensive line, and what did you expect him to
be happy with it? But it did? It did feel
(20:34):
like an immature comment from a young team that suddenly
now is the hunt did not don DRR and I
think there's some adjustment that needs to be made.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
So uh.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Jerry Jones was asked about Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons visits
Dallas this week and he was asked, it looks like
uh John Man, John Manchota Machoda asked him, uh, if
the Cowboys plan on doing a video tribute to Micah Parsons.
(21:06):
Jerry Jones says, I don't think that's appropriate. Uh this way.
Emmett Smith was a different story. But that's not to
diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough enough welcome out there.
We just need to show we've got antidotes for that.
I don't even know what that means, but I resent
the question. I resent the question. Why the hell would
(21:27):
the Cowboys have a tribute to Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
He was because it's fucking stupid. This is what fucking
this is what fucking marketing people do. They do this
fucking video tribute shit, which they shouldn't do for a
lot of people. Micah Parsons is a hell of a player.
Happy to have him here in Green Bay, but he
held out while he's under contract his rookie contract, played
four really good years for the Cowboys, and on his
rookie contract he could not come to an agreement on
(21:53):
an extension, and so he forced his way out. He
kind of acted like a little bit of a clown
in the way out. Whatever, and that's it. That's business, okay.
But part of business is you want you want a
tribute video, you gotta make it to your second fucking contract.
You got to make it to where you're an unquestioned
Hall of Fame player, or we accomplish something, we win
something we did not. I actually thought it was a
good question because it gave Jerry Jones the chance to
(22:15):
act like we're acting, which is like what, But he didn't.
He just said as Emma Smith's different story, which he is.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
And that's the thing. It's like, Michael Parsons, the tribute
would be for the fans, and if you're a Cowboy fan,
you're gonna have one of two reactions to a tribute video. First,
like this is reminding us that we don't have Michael
Parsons and it sucks. The last nine months sucked, like
that was awful and our season's dead because of it.
(22:44):
So I don't know why you'd want to do that.
And then also Michael Parsons, I gave up on you
if you're a fan, like he just shit all over you.
And his agent said that Jerry Jones, he told the agent.
I guess the agent said to Jerry Jones to go
fuck off or something with that one offer, Like it
was just ugly and he was like, Semi, I don't know,
(23:07):
injured in camp and was playing this game where he'd
show up you talking about being divisive. There you go,
there you go. So we got Michael Parsons tribute stupidity,
the undefeated season talk, and Will Bond's divisive talk.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh, I think Will Bondo wins this one. Just the
insistence that somebody who offers an opinion different than yours
is divisive is annoy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
The head coach that I'm really I've gotten alec a
lot more in recent years is Todd Bowles And he really,
he really captured me or got me on his side
in the wake of the like twenty one two when
you're still coming out of that stupid woke thing and
a reporter tried to gotcha him with uh with you know,
(24:06):
being friends with another black quarter or another black head
coach and what does it mean to be a black
head coach? And Todd Bowles wasn't having any of it, Like,
we coach Baul, That's what we do. That's all I
care about. We coach ball. So I guess it was
Sunday night or yesterday he chose to do this in
a press conference.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Oh my thoughts were going for around four testown excuse
my language, Like you gotta fucking be shitting me.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But I love Tod Bulls big fan of Todd Bules
as well. And oh yeah, by the way, you got
to be shipping me. Baker Mayfield did it again? Why
could we play for you? Because we can't. That's it
for the end the Bonus Podcast. Remember radio show, this
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