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September 24, 2025 • 16 mins

Doug riffs on Oklahoma State and their stated reason for firing Mike Gundy. Doug reacts to Nick Wright's take on the New York Giants. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, the great Johnny Manziel makes today's installment of "Because We Can".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, right, listen, this is the Doug Gottlie Show.
Heres in the Bonus with Doug Gottlie.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up Doug gott Leep Show? Fuck Sports Radio?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Do do do doo doo doo dot do do do
do do? So yesterday, you know, we talked about the
Bruce Pearl thing in the pod. We've talked about my
Gundy thing the radio show. Let's talk about the Gundy
thing now here on the podcast. And as I expressed

(00:37):
many of you saw it on social media.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I just.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We can speak more freely here in the podcast. What
What the fuck are we doing that? You're firing a
coach three games in the season, that's that's been there
for twenty one years, Like, honestly, what and and all
these people I know, and honestly I'm friends with, Like
Chad Wiberg's the a D His late brother Jared was
one of my teammates. He's his dad, my dad Clote.

(01:03):
We're close friends. Like this is not a anti U
Chad Weiberg thing, who was the athletic director. But then
he had a press conference yesterday after the firing and
was like, well, last week I didn't think we'd ever
we'd be here I ever even be here, So what change?
They lost the game of Tulsa, So you fire the coach?
What the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Because people say like, this is what we should do.
It's three games in the fucking year. You spend thirteen
million dollars on a new roster. They don't even know
what the fuck they're supposed to be doing. Then you
have a whole new coaching staff and they lost their
fucking quarterback the first fucking game of the fucking season.

(01:43):
Like you're you're supposed to Your job when you're in
charge is to not lose your shit, and I know
I'm kind of losing my shit here and I'm in charge, okay,
And again I'm not telling you I'm perfect, but you're
supposed to have people that are in charge athletic directors
Like I hear you. I understand you're not happy. I'm
not happy. Nobody's happy with the results. But hey, we

(02:03):
invested in coach Gundy for another season at least, right,
that's why they gave him all the money. When they
came to this conclusion, he had a twenty five million
dollar buyout. They're like, all right, we're gonna rework at
fifteen million dollar buyout, no more rollover, We're gonna let
you get a whole new stage. They get a whole
new staff and a whole new team, and it goes
three games like yeah, now, fuck you, you're out why

(02:25):
and their defense is well, we asked them if you
want to retire at the end of the year after
the third game. At the third game, we were here
two years ago. Just again, I know most of you
aren't Oklahoma State fans. They were shitty two years ago
when they were trying to figure it out. They lost
to South Alabama. Then they turn around and go to
the league championship game. Now that's probably not gonna happen

(02:46):
this year. Okay, they probably would have had feelings about
moving on, but so what Let thin guy do the job.
Now you just said, hey, this season is over. We
don't care because we're mad because we lost to Tulsa.
How childish that.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
So?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
And I get it, like Chad can't tell you what
really happened, but it's painfully obvious what happened. And he's like,
I didn't ask the donors for buy out money. Come on, dude,
You're not making that sort of move unless you have
a you have people calling you saying I'm not giving
any money if that guy's still the coach. So I
just I can't tell you how frustrating is to go like,

(03:23):
what was what was the whole point of going through
the whole summer bringing in a whole new roster because
they're all gone now and now all you have to
give rid all those coaches as well.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Congrats you just burned the season to a ground.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
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Speaker 2 (03:44):
The Fox Says and now.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Every day of this time in the Bonus Podcast, and
play for your previous version of the Fox Sports Radio
Fox Sports One Show. Here's Nick Wright talking about the
giants decision to start Jackson Dart.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
It's very clear or either Table or Shane or both
of them, or people higher than that, of which there's
only a few. Were very very open with Collinsworth and
Tarico about how excited they are to bench Russell Wilson
and go to go to Jackson Dart. And I also think, personally, again,

(04:21):
this is just my gut. They are not basing this
off for this week. What is the best for Jackson Dart.
They're basing it off. This is a home game, and
we don't want to be booed the whole time, and
it is bad for our job security and bad for
us to have the owner see everyone booing us. And instead,
people will be excited because the kid is regardless, regardless

(04:44):
of the result. People will be excited because Russ's game
against the Cowboys gave you enough for lack of better term,
plausible deniability to start in one more game. And then
you have the Saints on the road, less pressure on
the kid, all of it. And that's not what they're doing.
And so I think the process has been bad with
the Giants and this brain trust from the beginning. I
think signing the quarterback stuff has been bad and just

(05:07):
flatly the way they've done it.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean, like listen, I'm with with Dan Byer.
We talked about this yesterday. I would love to see
Jamis Winston. You know, the logic behind waiting for Jackson
Dart is this just let him get kind of assimilate
to what it's like, let him get the feel of it.
Throw him in a couple more games so that you

(05:36):
know it's uh first and ten eighty yards to go
twenty five yard line, and now all of a sudden,
I think things are real and you have Jamis is
a great dude, good quarterback that you put in Jackson
Dart and there's a time you want to sit him
to watch later in the year.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I don't love that.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I mean, I know in Carolina some people think that's
what worked there.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I just I'm patient, fella, when when you feel like
you're gonna have time, and I'm sure part of the
giants impatience is they got a coach who's trying to save.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
His job and you got a better shot.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Probably most coaches mind of saving your job as you
play the young guy, then you play the veteran guy.
Makes sense. Does don't love it, but it makes sense.
Here's Brady Quinn talking about Oklahoma quarterback job matears hand
injury that'll keep mo out several weeks.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
He's been such a difference maker for them. He really
has been the difference. I mean him and Ben Arbuckle,
who they came over together from Washington State, which is,
by the way, like the new fad all these teams
are when they need to revamp the offense. They're gonna
go find the offensive coordinator they want, and they might
bring that quarterback along with them, since you can do
that now in the transfer portal. So that is one

(06:47):
of the biggest changes that we've seen in college football,
but specifically with Oklahoma this year. I mean, Brent Venables
is known for his defensive acumen, and they've been good
at times, but this is the first year where they've
had the defense combined with the offense that's really been
missing in Oklahoma outside of maybe one year since Lincoln
Riley left. So it's a huge loss. I mean, you

(07:09):
can't you can't overstate this because he has been phenomenal
this year. He's been the odds on favorite to win
the Heisman if he's healthy in the next four or
five weeks, like it's probably a shoe in if he
keeps playing the way he has been. And now it
even throws that up in the air.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know what's funny about it is
this sounds like a good plan, right bringing the offensive
creator in quarterback.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
You know who else did that? Oklahoma State? And you
know what happened there.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
The quarterback got hurt on the third series broke his foot,
So eerie similarities there. I don't think there's this big
a drop off at OU, but there's going to be
a drop off. It's not just that you brought in
a quarterback who's playing incredibly well as a tremendous player,
or that you have an inventive and really outstanding offensive quitner.

(07:56):
You go with guys that have a quarterback that's played
for the offensive coordinator before. So now you have a
guy who's never played or you know, and he's not
played for this offensive coordinator in a live game, and
they're about to run up on the gauntlet of their season.
I don't think it bodes well at all for Oklahoma.

(08:16):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the announcement that MLB will
be using abs.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
It's going to be taking over baseball. That if you
want to get the balls and strikes correct, then just
have it. You'll still have to have an umpire. There's
not going to be a robot out there. I think
everybody thinks, like you know that Fox Football robots out there.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Balls.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
It's not going to be a robot. It's going to
be automated balls and strikes.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yes, Hud, that's.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Exactly what I thought it was on. Why do they
call it robots like you're entitled to your opinion, but
that was a strike.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Thank you, Todd, So adding robot See, I don't even
like robot umpires. They don't call them robot umpires in tennis,
do they. It's just a challenge system. But the umps
will be also cutting down on ejections because I was
curious the percentage of ejections in Major League Baseball among

(09:09):
players and managers and coaches, sixty almost sixty two percent
of the time were related to balls and strikes. So
they're going to cut down on that. You'll cut down
on ejections here for derogatory comments there. If the goal
is to get it right, and you have the technology
to get it right, then use it.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's fair, right, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I this has already existed, it's already been used. It
already works. I don't know why it took so long.
I don't know what it tooks so long.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Use it.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
That you call it the robo umpire is a mistake
because it makes you think there's a.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Robot umpire there. That's what I thought when I first started.
It's not. It's really good. It's like cyclops. It works.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Thank you for finally fulfilling our request major league based.
That's what the Fox said.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Let's find out who were what's annoying, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And now it's your annoying.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'm going to pick up where you just left off
with Dan. I don't think it's enough. This is what
it should what should have happened. First of all, it
should have been in placed yesterday, a year ago. But
why not implement it for the postseason? Like you put
it into an All Star exhibition that means nothing. It
got rave reviews. Why not use it for the most
important games? Why expose your umpires even more at the

(10:47):
most important time? And also and also why why do
the challenge system at all? Like for next season? Just
say there isn't any challenge system. It's we're going to
call balls and strikes automatically. Period. I don't know why
are we doing half measures? Why did it take five
years to get to this point? And why are we
doing half measures?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
There has to be something that goes with the contract
they have with the umpires union.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It feels so easy to just go, yeah, just implement
it. It works, especially in the playoffs. But I, Jason, I
don't know. Yeah, you bring up good questions. It is
annoying though that, like you said, we weren't using this
last year, or it wasn't in place to use fully
this year. It's like we're delaying something which is already
Any sort of kinks have already been worked out long,

(11:39):
long time ago. Who else annoying you?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
This is extremely nuanced. Cubs player asked to miss a
game to watch the Charlie Kirk Services. He was granted
time off to watch the Charlie Kirk Services. This is
Gary Myers on the broadcast yesterday.

Speaker 8 (11:58):
Matt Shan Lead's off to the Cup. He had a
base in his first time up. Shaw had Cubs World
in at Sizzy this weekend when he was not here
for the Cubs game with the Reds game they lost
one nothing and in which his lack of presence was felt.
It was later revealed that he had been given permission

(12:21):
to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral and I don't want to
talk about any of the politics of it, but the
thought of leaving your team in the middle of a
race for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Me as weird.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
You're the head coach. You probably have a take on this.
If your player comes up to you and says, I'm
going to miss the game for Charlie Kirk's services, you
have your opinion, but I could not agree with Gary Cohen.
That's not Gary Marker, Gary Cohen, Moore.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I am.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I've been called extreme for saying that you shouldn't have
children during your regular season if you're an athlete. I
think it's selfish to go see the birth of your
child during the season. Time these things out to the mouth.
It's nine months from when you can see so I
agree with him. Any excuse other than an immediate family
member dying, I think is weak.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think this is a terrible excuse. It just is.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
And you're you listen, You're allowed to mourn the death
of whomever you want to mourn the death of you know,
this is this is I think we're both in an
agreement here, right Like, there's no part of us that's
saying you're not allowed to mourn the death of Charlie
Kirk if if you're affected and you want to. But
in terms of taking time away from a team, listen,

(13:44):
I I know Sandy Kofax took time away from the
Dodgers with the Jewish high holidays. I didn't take yesterday off. Now,
yesterday was Russia Shanna, not Yom Kipoor. But I didn't
take yesterday off.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Just because these days I believe are valuable to us
in radio. And you know, it's just it's an important
time with this show as we continue to evolve. And
it's not to say that my religion is not important,
but again it's this is the time of year where
you lock it and you talk about sports, and people
listen to sports on radio. So I'm with you. As

(14:20):
a coach, what I would say is, if you want
to take time away from the team to go and
go to a memorial service, to watch a memorial service
with somebody who you're not related to, then you just
want you to just go and stay home and we'll
figure it out without you. Because people do what's important
to them and we're not that important to you.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
You would I.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Agree this idea that the whole world has to stop
because you want to mourn the death of somebody who
you respected. I just I don't know, especially you're talking
baseball Pennant and you're a cub.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, that's a n.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why are we doing this? I do because we can.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
This is uh now, this is Johnny Manziel being Johnny Manziel.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
I had Kevin O'Connell as my like coach pre draft
where he was like teaching me on the whiteboard and
he's like, Okay, you have your Houston meeting coming up.
We're going over seventy three and seventy four and seventy five,
seventy six protection and all the shit. Not having to
know that type of stuff in college. Three down fronts
really fucked me up, Like where the mic goes and everything.

(15:36):
Bill O'Brien eventually gets the job and comes in. Man,
I go to that meeting. I'm so fucking confident. Of course,
he gives me a fucking three down front for one
of the protections. I'm fucking confidently pointing to here, and
he's fucking smirking, laughing, fucking texting O'Connell in the meeting
like your boy doesn't know fucking this shit. You guys
have been fucking thrilling two weeks. Like you don't know

(15:59):
a fucking like didn't make me feel too bad about
it in there, but he just like I can tell
he's like this fucking kid. I thinks he fucking knows everything.
He doesn't know.

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