September 29, 2025 • 12 mins
Doug riffs about the MLB Post-season. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on the Chiefs. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Cam Ward makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:48):
a crazy weekend of college football. Another firing in high
major college football, and I don't even know if we
have time to get to it today because baseball playoffs
are a day away from starting. The playoffs are in
fact set and oh yeah, by the way, crazy day
in the National Football League. We've we've done this before
(01:09):
with the Cowboys. We did it week one and now
we've we've learned in week three, which is what have
we learned? What do we learn? The Cowboys aren't as
bad as we thought, or maybe it's the momentum of
a game, or maybe the other team is not as
good as we thought. But last night was just a
(01:30):
wild game, just a wild game. And if you had
the assumption that was gonna be a blowout, and early
on it looked like it might be a blowout, never fear.
The Packers' ability to keep a game that should have
been a blowout close is here. And then you factor
in that Micah Parsons is playing for the Packers and
not the Cowboys, and it was a huge part of
(01:52):
the discussion. And then you factor in that Ceedee Lamb
wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this, this
shouldn't be close. After the game one in which the
Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can all is that? Okay?
We all okay? Saying that Cowboys won forty to forty,
they won a game that was tied. Here's Jerry Jones,
owner and general manager of the Cowboys, talking about the game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't want to splay. That game was probably a
great game for the NFL as far as the showcase
for the game and competition, because you had outstanding quarterback play,
you had some very talented people out there playing. You
certainly had one of the most expensive players in the
history of the NFL out there playing. And so I
guess everybody was going to take a look tonight and
(02:37):
decide to see.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Worth all there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael was.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When Michael wasn't, I would can we just we haven't
seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in the playoffs.
But if we're through having four weeks of the season,
are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that
watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know
(03:12):
anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does.
I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay
Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam
watches WNBA and football. Right I think Jay Stu probably
mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially
(03:33):
Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own
college basketball team. But we watch a lot of football,
are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for
a lot of things, he has been his reason behind
hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons,
(03:54):
his reason behind a lot of things is I got
Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't
have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships,
I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right like,
had he hired a different coach, that would have been
(04:15):
a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows If
Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and
total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he
did going back to last year, and he looks like
one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Byro
you okay with saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That Dek looks like a top five quarterback?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and
essentially again, I don't know if you want to go
through numbers of who looks, you know, whatever, but I
would say that if Jerry's right about anything, he is
right about Dak Prescott so far.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I will I will just say this because I've never
had a problem with Dak at all, and I think
I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak. So
I think last night was what we he saw what
Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
With you, okay, Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Last night I looked at Dak and his performance and
I'm like, you know what, this this year so far
and then his past seasons. I just look at him
as like the industry standard.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Like he is.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He is a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid.
Maybe he's not the flashiest all the time, but he
is like he is, He's the standard. That's how you
should play quarterback. I don't know if I put him
top five, maybe he floats around in there, but he
is the industry standard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Jay.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Still, I'm gonna answer your question of the question, would
you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week,
would you be surprised if he did a head scratching
a bad decision in the next game and we're in
a week we're talking about him being the dumb crap
because like the.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Thing with Dak Prescott, to me, has always been consistency.
When he's been healthy, he does he goes up and down.
So we're talking about him after a really good game.
He seems to have had a couple good games in
a row here. But the thing is, I wouldn't be
surprised if he didn't do well in the next game
and we're talking about the weird decision making and the
(06:06):
interception or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually
kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks.
And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears
where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right,
I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants.
He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey,
out of four games, he's played well in three of them,
(06:31):
my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing.
Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers,
Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you
go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It would probably impress me. Though if he backed up
this performance with another outstanding performance.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So then he's not top five, right, because you expect
a more consistent quarterback in the top five.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
H yeah, yeah, So who are the top five quarterbacks? Though? Right,
we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes. Although
Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of it
is he didn't have weapons to throw two all year, right,
Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there.
I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of
(07:20):
the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of
the reason was as good was he had no protection.
So who else are we? Lamar has been good but
bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost.
So who else are we we're putting in that list?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think Burrow's always two or three, right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sure, but he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And you're talking first four weeks of the season. Top
five quarterback play? Yeah, yeah. I think the point is
is that he's definitely in the top ten, and right
now it leads the NFL in passing yardage, So there's
that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I would say through four games of the season, we
can we can all say like he may we may
carry pass biases against him, and that's fair. But if
you'd say, through four games of the season, he hasn't
looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding
the past against him too much, And and and again,
(08:23):
what was Jerry's logic? Jerry's logic was last year and
signing him first was he's the most valuable you have
to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic
in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working,
he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it.
Let's let's let's fall there and then And I don't
(08:43):
know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons
or if this is just something that he's come upon,
which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want
to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already
paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I
don't need to be doing that with two different guys.
And so if I have to check between one, I'm
gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision.
(09:06):
That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten
both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse
for it, of course, but I also think that Dak
Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader, if
you found an offense that works for him, Now you
have two first round picks, you free some money up
for future years rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard,
(09:29):
isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, yes, Dan, you know it's funny because I'm just
I'm looking at I'm watching a highlight package now of
last night, and I think that Jerry made all the
right decisions. But also these decisions are made like via Jerry,
And it's funny because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the
screen just as much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And
Jerry Jones is on the set of Sunday Night Football
(09:55):
in America last night talking with the whole thing. So
whether or it works out in the long term or not,
And I think in the short term it's worked out
for Dallas, and Jerry keeps on saying in the long term,
they've got those picks.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That deal is is right to the wheelhouse for Jerry
because he's the focus of attention. And now when we're
you know, waxing poetically or most of us are about Dak.
It's more about Jerry, Like as crazy as it is.
And I don't know how good the Cowboys are after
a miserable week in Week three, but even after a tie,
I think we're looking like Jerry and the Cowboys at
(10:30):
least are winners right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Sure, sure, that's the beat. That's why I say they
won last night forty to forty. They won last night
forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was
not at all pleased with the result.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Obviously it didn't come down here to tie a football game,
but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led
to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great
job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field,
but there's a lot of things that we all have
to clean up. Its started with myself. I mean, we're
trying to be aggressive at the end of the half
(11:03):
and that that really bit us in the butt.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, end of the half and end of game and
end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor.
We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end
of the game, which caused them to have to tie.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
That just goes to the level of detail where we're
not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left.
We call a play to take a shot to the
end zone. They played cover two. We end up checking
the ball down, so we have it on the ball
call to send everybody to the end zone. And we
knew that there. I mean, we use the turmo zone
(11:35):
saying that it's got to go out of bounds or
end zone. Obviously with time remaining and just the operation
was just way too slow, Like I don't know if
our guys didn't know where in two minutes or what.
But ultimately the communication has got to get better. Myself
to Jordan, Jordan to the hotel. And that's that's the
bottom line.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad,
tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the
end of the game, and here's guys that have been
they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before,
you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they
look disorganized. And I get that it's really this season,
and I get that it's crazy. Maybe you didn't expect
to be in that position. I commend Lafour like Lafour
(12:17):
is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got to
be better. They got to know what we're in. You know,
these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for the Packers
who started out like a house of fire and felt
like they went through the motions last week and got
beat And obviously you give up a blockfield goal last
(12:37):
week a blockfield goal this week, and that ends up
being the difference in both those games.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
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(00:48):
a crazy weekend of college football. Another firing in high
major college football, and I don't even know if we
have time to get to it today because baseball playoffs
are a day away from starting. The playoffs are in
fact set and oh yeah, by the way, crazy day
in the National Football League. We've we've done this before
(01:09):
with the Cowboys. We did it week one and now
we've we've learned in week three, which is what have
we learned? What do we learn? The Cowboys aren't as
bad as we thought, or maybe it's the momentum of
a game, or maybe the other team is not as
good as we thought. But last night was just a
(01:30):
wild game, just a wild game. And if you had
the assumption that was gonna be a blowout, and early
on it looked like it might be a blowout, never fear.
The Packers' ability to keep a game that should have
been a blowout close is here. And then you factor
in that Micah Parsons is playing for the Packers and
not the Cowboys, and it was a huge part of
(01:52):
the discussion. And then you factor in that Ceedee Lamb
wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this, this
shouldn't be close. After the game one in which the
Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can all is that? Okay?
We all okay? Saying that Cowboys won forty to forty,
they won a game that was tied. Here's Jerry Jones,
owner and general manager of the Cowboys, talking about the game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't want to splay. That game was probably a
great game for the NFL as far as the showcase
for the game and competition, because you had outstanding quarterback play,
you had some very talented people out there playing. You
certainly had one of the most expensive players in the
history of the NFL out there playing. And so I
guess everybody was going to take a look tonight and
(02:37):
decide to see.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Worth all there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael was.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When Michael wasn't, I would can we just we haven't
seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in the playoffs.
But if we're through having four weeks of the season,
are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that
watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know
(03:12):
anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does.
I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay
Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam
watches WNBA and football. Right I think Jay Stu probably
mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially
(03:33):
Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own
college basketball team. But we watch a lot of football,
are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for
a lot of things, he has been his reason behind
hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons,
(03:54):
his reason behind a lot of things is I got
Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't
have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships,
I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right like,
had he hired a different coach, that would have been
(04:15):
a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows If
Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and
total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he
did going back to last year, and he looks like
one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Byro
you okay with saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That Dek looks like a top five quarterback?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and
essentially again, I don't know if you want to go
through numbers of who looks, you know, whatever, but I
would say that if Jerry's right about anything, he is
right about Dak Prescott so far.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I will I will just say this because I've never
had a problem with Dak at all, and I think
I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak. So
I think last night was what we he saw what
Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
With you, okay, Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Last night I looked at Dak and his performance and
I'm like, you know what, this this year so far
and then his past seasons. I just look at him
as like the industry standard.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Like he is.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He is a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid.
Maybe he's not the flashiest all the time, but he
is like he is, He's the standard. That's how you
should play quarterback. I don't know if I put him
top five, maybe he floats around in there, but he
is the industry standard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Jay.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Still, I'm gonna answer your question of the question, would
you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week,
would you be surprised if he did a head scratching
a bad decision in the next game and we're in
a week we're talking about him being the dumb crap
because like the.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Thing with Dak Prescott, to me, has always been consistency.
When he's been healthy, he does he goes up and down.
So we're talking about him after a really good game.
He seems to have had a couple good games in
a row here. But the thing is, I wouldn't be
surprised if he didn't do well in the next game
and we're talking about the weird decision making and the
(06:06):
interception or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually
kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks.
And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears
where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right,
I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants.
He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey,
out of four games, he's played well in three of them,
(06:31):
my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing.
Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers,
Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you
go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It would probably impress me. Though if he backed up
this performance with another outstanding performance.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So then he's not top five, right, because you expect
a more consistent quarterback in the top five.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
H yeah, yeah, So who are the top five quarterbacks? Though? Right,
we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes. Although
Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of it
is he didn't have weapons to throw two all year, right,
Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there.
I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of
(07:20):
the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of
the reason was as good was he had no protection.
So who else are we? Lamar has been good but
bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost.
So who else are we we're putting in that list?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think Burrow's always two or three, right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sure, but he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And you're talking first four weeks of the season. Top
five quarterback play? Yeah, yeah. I think the point is
is that he's definitely in the top ten, and right
now it leads the NFL in passing yardage, So there's
that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I would say through four games of the season, we
can we can all say like he may we may
carry pass biases against him, and that's fair. But if
you'd say, through four games of the season, he hasn't
looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding
the past against him too much, And and and again,
(08:23):
what was Jerry's logic? Jerry's logic was last year and
signing him first was he's the most valuable you have
to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic
in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working,
he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it.
Let's let's let's fall there and then And I don't
(08:43):
know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons
or if this is just something that he's come upon,
which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want
to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already
paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I
don't need to be doing that with two different guys.
And so if I have to check between one, I'm
gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision.
(09:06):
That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten
both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse
for it, of course, but I also think that Dak
Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader, if
you found an offense that works for him, Now you
have two first round picks, you free some money up
for future years rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard,
(09:29):
isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, yes, Dan, you know it's funny because I'm just
I'm looking at I'm watching a highlight package now of
last night, and I think that Jerry made all the
right decisions. But also these decisions are made like via Jerry,
And it's funny because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the
screen just as much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And
Jerry Jones is on the set of Sunday Night Football
(09:55):
in America last night talking with the whole thing. So
whether or it works out in the long term or not,
And I think in the short term it's worked out
for Dallas, and Jerry keeps on saying in the long term,
they've got those picks.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That deal is is right to the wheelhouse for Jerry
because he's the focus of attention. And now when we're
you know, waxing poetically or most of us are about Dak.
It's more about Jerry, Like as crazy as it is.
And I don't know how good the Cowboys are after
a miserable week in Week three, but even after a tie,
I think we're looking like Jerry and the Cowboys at
(10:30):
least are winners right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Sure, sure, that's the beat. That's why I say they
won last night forty to forty. They won last night
forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was
not at all pleased with the result.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Obviously it didn't come down here to tie a football game,
but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led
to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great
job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field,
but there's a lot of things that we all have
to clean up. Its started with myself. I mean, we're
trying to be aggressive at the end of the half
(11:03):
and that that really bit us in the butt.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, end of the half and end of game and
end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor.
We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end
of the game, which caused them to have to tie.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
That just goes to the level of detail where we're
not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left.
We call a play to take a shot to the
end zone. They played cover two. We end up checking
the ball down, so we have it on the ball
call to send everybody to the end zone. And we
knew that there. I mean, we use the turmo zone
(11:35):
saying that it's got to go out of bounds or
end zone. Obviously with time remaining and just the operation
was just way too slow, Like I don't know if
our guys didn't know where in two minutes or what.
But ultimately the communication has got to get better. Myself
to Jordan, Jordan to the hotel. And that's that's the
bottom line.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad,
tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the
end of the game, and here's guys that have been
they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before,
you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they
look disorganized. And I get that it's really this season,
and I get that it's crazy. Maybe you didn't expect
to be in that position. I commend Lafour like Lafour
(12:17):
is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got to
be better. They got to know what we're in. You know,
these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for the Packers
who started out like a house of fire and felt
like they went through the motions last week and got
beat And obviously you give up a blockfield goal last
(12:37):
week a blockfield goal this week, and that ends up
being the difference in both those games.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.