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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show years in
the bonus.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
With Doug gott What Doug Gotlin Show in the bonus,
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio, app. I hope you're doing great.
So this was a great sports weekend, right, Yeah? The
Dodgers come back game one, Yankees down two games to none.
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You have two gigantic upsets in college football, I think,
most notably UCLA taking out Penn State. Secondarily Florida Beaten Texas.
The number one, number two teams preseason in the country
are now unranked. So there's a lot to unpack there
with college football NFL football only two unefeated teams both
go down Buffalo at home.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
As well as the Eagles at home.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You had some disappointing showings like that of my guy
guys the Chargers. You had Sam Darnold throwing a late
pick after playing great football. Do you blame the late
pick on him when he gets hit right as he
releases the ball? Like, there's a lot to discuss. But
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if we're honest with ourselves, Okay, that playoff games, championship games,
high level games we'll always talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We'll always remember random regular season football games.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know, maybe this is the game that completely
changes how we look at the Patriots, Like whereas that's
as big a win as they've had since Bill belichick
not just left, but even Bill Belichick's last couple of years. Gigantic,
gigantic win. But the stories that resonate are ones that
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are just bizarre, interesting, different than you would ever perceive
it when it first came out out, And I just
I can't get past like this Mark Sanchez story. So
Sunday morning, most of America woke up to a tweet
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or a story they read that Mark Sanchez was being
hospitalized after being stabbed in Indiana, in Indianapolis, because that, excuse me,
Saturday morning, all right, So Saturday morning. And the minute
you see it, I think, mentally, you go to one
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of a couple of places. You got the thoughts in prayers,
posse right, you got the politically aligned to the right. Oh,
this is a city, democrats rule the city. We know
this is so easy to score political points. And then
I think you have most of us, You're like, what
the fuck?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Right? Like that was a the fuck?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The story sat out there by itself without context for
me for like twenty five thirty minutes. Then there's a
reporter in Annapolis that put out the police report, which
painted a very different picture. The picture is then backed
up with video which came out yesterday where Mark Sanchez
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was going after this guy and it appeared to be
over some parking spot which had nothing to do with him.
The net net as of Monday when we're recording this
podcast is the sixty nine year old guy was apparently
legally defending himself and there's video to back that up.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
He's in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He's got a gash in his face where he got
cut through his cheek all the way to the tongue, right,
so he's gonna be hospitalized. A senior citizen is hospitalized
and not being charged with anything because the police and
video coroborates it that he was defending himself against Sanchez,
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who was the aggressor in this whole thing, and Sanchez
went through pepper spray in order to get to him
before getting stabbed himself. Sanchez got arrested in his hotel
room and then today was charged with the felony. So,
Jay Stu, this is this is a great one for
you because you're a native SoCal. We've all been around
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Mark Sanchez. I don't think do you know him well?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't know him at all.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I've any communication I've ever had has been with his brother,
who seems like a really nice guy. His brother kind
of has played a part of a professional manager. He
knows him very well. I would love I would love
to have a conversation with that guy right now.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Because.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Nothing explains what happened on Friday night and Wes there
is like severe chemical abuse and or alcohol abuse. Why
would a man in a fit man in his thirties
almost kill a sixty nine year old man? What could
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lead you to do that that isn't chemically induced? But
we need answers. I don't know if we're ever going
to get them from Sanchez, But yeah, no, this is
really troubling. Then you brought up the blue check marks
that were like the thoughts and prayers, which I always
think are the most phony thing on Twitter, thoughts and prayers,
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And I have met to see one person be like,
you know what, I kind of overreacted to the initial
news here. It looks like the worst guy in this
entire thing is the person that got stabbed because he
got stabbed because the old man thought he was going
to get killed defensive, you know, in defense of himself.
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A pepper sprayed a guy, according to the police report.
When that didn't stop him, he tried to stab Mark Sanchez.
The whole thing is so disturbing, but it was a
look Seaton Saturday into the worst parts of social media.
Don Dockett or Dan Dakich is one of those guys
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who went on like five minutes after this happened and
said that the African Americans have taken over in downtown Indianapolis,
and then he starts going into some Democrat run city thing.
I'm like, holy crap. And then when he was asked
to take it down, he says, I'm not taking it down.
The fact still remains that the city is being infested
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with African Americans.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, it's just it's can I ask you honest question,
Can you have Dan on after.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
That moving forward?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, he's literally I think maybe my favorite guest on
this show. I know because because I know, but that's
filtered opinions.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
But yeah, it's a tough one because it's not a guess,
it's a and it's a Okay, here's a dude, who
if in fact, even if there are a bunch of
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African Americans moving in, young young black men moving into Innneapolis.
The it's he's not even hiding it. He's saying that
means they're more violent, There's going to be more violence.
That is inherently racist. It just is, and you can
back it up. And it's really interesting. Yesterday I was
driving and I was listening to Clay Travis and I've
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never heard his show ever before. You know, Clay has
switched over from sports to politics. He's taken over Russia's show,
and he was talking about how the you know how
with violence, right, there's just such a higher percentage of
the violence man on man violence or just violent acts
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in the United States they have been black men, Like
fifty percent of them are black men, right, So there
is a there is actual stats to back up on
some level what he's saying. But it's still racist to
say that just because there's a bunch of young black
kids in Indianapolis, that if there's a violent crime, automatically
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it must be committed by black people. Like that's that's
classic racism. It just can't get I don't know how
you get passed it. And I don't think of Dan
as a racist, it's but I don't know how I
process that. I don't know how a listener processed that.
With that that means on any level that I, as
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a listener can sit there and go like, well, if
you have him on that means you're aligned with that
thinking and I'm not. But I also value his unfiltered
opinion on sports. But that's not sports. I just don't
know what to do there.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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Speaker 2 (09:13):
Lads Kid, The Fox Says, and now every day this
time in the Bonus podcast played for your previous portion
of Fox Sports Radio or Fox Sports One Show. Here's
Dan Byron Kerry Rhodes. They had this exchange about the
Titans and Cardinals yesterday.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I'm not saying I played a role in it carry Roads.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
I think a Mario de Mercado played a role in
it for the Tennessee Titans and the Arizona Cardinals Today
with the Cardinals running back, dropping the ball right before
the end zone, and what would have been a twenty
seven to six league game would have been over. It
wasn't Titans comeback and win into that highlight. But I
did have some sort of faith with the Titans. This
is how we started the show today and going around
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our week five whip around that we do with the
four games.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
This was my confidence level in the Titans.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
The Cardinals right now, one day six, leading the Titans
in a game in Arizona.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
They're they're gonna gonna win. I know. I don't say
that with confidence.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, your voice fluctuated there.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
If I really wanted to put the rubber stamp, I
would say, they're going to get away.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Yeah, there you go. There, it was, there you go.
I was also talking about the entire season.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I wasn't talking about today down fifteen points at that,
but I felt that the Titans had an opportunity today
when they were down twenty one to six. It didn't
look good when Amari de Marcado's running down the field
and there isn't a Titan in sight except Lajerius Snead
who's kind of running up behind. But he didn't have
a role in it. It's all in de Marcado.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I just the whole thing was bizarre, and it was
so poorly played. And such Keystone cop stuff. It was
just the whole I mean again, that's that's just crazy.
I'm still speechless for watching that play.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Speechless. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
We've been sitting waiting for Philadelphia because they keep winning,
and we keep waiting for Philadelphia to lose, and finally
they met their match. Yeah, hey, Denver, Broncos, your guy
bonickx yep So in football and in life, drip drip, drip,
Like people don't wake up and just decide let's get
a divorce.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
There were signs.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Companies don't go from great quarterly earnings to we're bankrupt.
There are signs, warning signs, red flags, arguments. Philadelphia has
been a leaky faucet for five weeks. We've been talking
about this. Saquon Barkley, his production's been cut in half.
The Lions have two running backs that are more productive
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than Saquon Barkley. They labor to get the ball to
Aj Brown, an elite wide receiver. The offensive line used
to be the best in the sport. Middle of the
pack doesn't even look close to Detroit's now. So I've
been preaching this for three years. Nick Seriani. He is
not a scheme guy. Okay, so he is very offensive
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coordinator dependent. All right, so when he has a great coordinator,
he gets the Super Bowls. He hired Brian Johnson, didn't
work circle the drain, he missed on a coordinator. Hired
somebody in the building that had never called plays before.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Could be a good coach, but right now.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
At this moment in that coach's life, probably not the
right fit with this veteran offense.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
All Right, I'm gonna give you some real insight here. Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We had we had no offensive coordin here last year
at Green Bay. It was me, and I think I've
talked to enough people that said, you know, the way
you're playing, the concepts of how you're playing are good. Okay,
that you were a well coached offensive team, but okay,
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if you want to call it play calling, and there's
a part of the execution which I felt like was
missing in the details and the teaching. And so what
I aim to do was I hired somebody who knows
way more than me, doesn't necessarily know inside my brain
what I'm thinking, but I've had to do a better
job of sharing that because how my brain works, guys.
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Is when I'm calling a play out of a timeout
or i'm calling something. Sometimes I'll ask the players what
they see, but a lot of times I spot something
based upon a defensive rotation that will work, and then
I try and find all the plays, all the sets
to exploit that, and out of a timeout, I can
usually do it. In gameplay, it's harder because it's faster,
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it's quicker, and I'm having to coach and do all
these other things. So I hired a guy, a gentleman
named Carrie Rup. Carry's actually seventy one years old. He's
been doing it forever, and he's so damn good. And
all he does is take the things that I teach
and then perfects them because he teaches all those little things.
When I watch the Eagles, Okay, you have a play
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caller that again, and I don't know about the rhythm
of calling plays in the NFL, but you have a
play caller that I think. One, he's trying to mesh
what he wants to do with what was done previously.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's really hard.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Two, it's not what they're doing is but the execution
can be just off by a yard here, a split there.
How quickly you get ripped. The offensive line doesn't protect
for a second. It just it's missing something. And yeah,
you're only as good as you're only as good as
your staff. But I don't want to put it all
on the coordinator because I also think that it's exposing
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that Jalen hurts in many ways. Is this generation's Russell Wilson.
This generation is Russell Wilson. He's really good and he's
really clutched. He's also a gigantic fan of himself. Why
shouldn't he be. He's been two Super Bowls, right, He's
one ass championship in college. Granted it was as a
backup and then proved that he could play when he's
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with Oklahoma. But this is is he actually a star,
Probably not not superstar, but he's really really good and
he's really really confident. But not everybody has that confidence
in him because they think of star quarterback as a
guy who can get back there and just Aaron Rodgers
it you know, backyard football, run around and make a play.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
So I think it's exposing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The fact that one they got a lot of money
tied up into a few guys and that's hurting their
overall talent. Two, you have a new offensive coordinator who
hasn't done it before, and he's got to tighten some
stuff up, sharpen some stuff up, and either bring in
a consultant or get somebody with more experience. And then three,
the actual talent level of their quarterback and frankly of
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aj Brown. Like, if you're just off by this much
in terms of where you're supposed to be or how
you're supposed to be thinking, it gets badly exposed. So
it's a myriad of things. Here's Braddy Quinn talking about
Penn State losing the UCLA.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
I'm gonna be honest with you this this actually pissed
me off, Like this game pissed me off.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Now it's not for.
Speaker 9 (16:03):
Like the personal emotional reasons that like this was one
of my favorite bets.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Of the week.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
Honestly, what it is, it's like, there's too much potential
on that team. There's too many good players on that roster.
There's been so much money invested into that program, into
Jim Knowles, Andy Kotalniki for them to come out and
literally flop flop like that, and we can sit there
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and we can talk about, Hey, they allowed Oregon to
beat them twice or there was a couple injuries. Bullshit,
Like I'm gonna say it, that's bs to me. This
has happened now three times in the history of college
football where a team that was zero to four has
been a top ten team. And I think what bothers
me the most about it is and this is not
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like at James Franklin or shot at James Franklin. But
it ticks me off for the players because that program,
Penn State and then just being there on campus, the
fan base, everything else, there's so much behind it, and
every single time they underachieve, like you're you're not the
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same vein of Michigan or Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
You're not. I'm sorry that may.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Come off after this pass Saturn go ahead.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
It makes me so mad though, for the players because
it's wasted.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Uh, I guess, don't get me wrong. Okay, don't get
me wrong. I think that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
They have great support, they have great fans support.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'm sure they got a lot of money, They've done
a lot of right things, and anybody can rightfully be frustrated.
This is the challenge to coaching, and I think for
James Franklin, coaching differently than he's coached before. When you're
at Vanderbilt, okay, they they throw you a parade when
you come close. When he was at Vanderbilt, just coming
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close got you a parade. Penn State has never been
truly viewed among the elite of elites. They were independent
for a long time. There was times which they finished
undefeated and didn't play for a national championship. Why because
Penn State was not viewed. Notre Dame would never finish
undefeated and not play for national championship. USC would never
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finish undefeated and not play for national championship. Nebraska, Ohio State,
Michigan would never.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's why Penn State's always been viewed as.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Eh, eh really good eh Okay. So for me, I
think though, this is a different part of coaching. You
want to get your team up for the Oregon game.
It's the white out, it's everything. When you lose, and
you lose the way in which they lost at home
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in overtime and at home where your offense, you're supposed
to have the best quarterback in the country, doesn't really
play well for a good portion of the game. So
the emotion of the letdown of losing at home, and
we talk about this and look again, I know you're
listening if you're one, if you're kind of a dick,
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or two, if you don't know context, you're like, well,
you went and lost next games. The point is always
you can't let And this happened to us. We're playing
Youngstown State, who's one of the best teams in our league.
Were up I think fourteen with like six to go,
and it wasn't one guy who was like I played
six guys down the stretch. Every one of them fucked
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up and I screwed up too. In order to have
us lose that game, Like, we have to win that game.
So we play IU Indy the next game, like three
days later. It was on a Sunday, so we played
them on a Wednesday, and no matter how prepared we
were and how much we thought athletically they're at our level. Yeah,
they made ten of their first fourteen threes and built
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a lead that we just couldn't come back from. But
one of the reasons they made those threes was we
just weren't ready. We weren't engaged defensively nearly as we
would have. Why because Youngstown State beat us twice, and
that's what happened with UCLA is Oregon beat Penn State
twice and UCLA ends up the beneficiary of it. Now
that may sound like I'm taking away from UCLA's upset,
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It is a little bit. I believe that's the reality
of it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The reality of it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And there's lots of different kinds of coaching, coaching underdogs,
coaching young guys, coaching favorites, coaching at home, coaching on
the road. But coaching on the road after suffering a
devastating home loss is an art in getting guys back
up to that magic level. And James Franklin clearly is
not an artist. That's what the Fox is.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
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Speaker 3 (21:03):
Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Hey, Doug, Can I talk about one thing that you
have we gotten into in the in the radio and
I know you talked about it with Tom Touesco You I,
Sam and Dan Byer had a conversation last December, I
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had sent a text message to two people I know
that coach football on the college level. I sent him
a message to two people that cover the NFL. Same question.
I asked all of us. Do these players drop the
ball on purpose before the end zone? Do they drop
it on purpose to show off, to impress the inner
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circle of friends that they got And it was fifty
to fifty. Dan Byron, I think they show off. You
and Sam think it's accidental. It was fifty to fifty
on my group text. I'm hoping now that in the
wake of the kid from the Colts last week and
De Mercato yesterday, I'm hoping that you guys that think
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that these are just random acts of accidents, accidental happenings,
could be swayed into thinking that these are things done
on purpose and it's the ultimate form of selfishness. I'm
gonna play some sound bites. One is from Rex Ryan
this morning, former head coach, talking about Demarcado for the
listeners that don't know, seventy six yard touchdown run where
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he could have just run into the end zone untouched,
he decided to drop the ball before the end zone,
costing the Cardinals a chance at that score, but also
ultimately basically costing them the game.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
I mean the first thing you do anytime you get
a teaching moment for your team, you'll show your entire
football team, like get your butt in the end zone,
all these type of things, right, I mean, you're not
in there until you're in there. Why in the hell? Like,
here's what I see with this kid, all right, I
mean it's crazy that happened. Right, But you're selfish, okay,
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I mean absolutely selfish. And would you think you're cool
when you slow down. Hey, let me tell you something, homeboy.
You got three touchdowns in your career. That's in three years.
Get your butt in the end zone. This cost games.
As soon as this happened, No kid set the os.
Oh my god, they're going to lose the game. And
I'm like, yeah, you're crazy. No, you were right all right,
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but this guy, get your butt in the end zone.
You were professional, act like it. What the hell are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
And then Calherd spent some time on it earlier today.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
I'm surprised so many players are consoling him. That is
an l I mean it is, man, you got to
be a selfish coworker. You really got to be selfish
to do that you're trying to perform. I sort of
got I think this is TikTok and Instagram and nobody
can just have lunch. Nobody can just have lunch without
taking a picture of it. Can we just live a
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little bit not have to constantly show off?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
So the annoying part for me is that that I've
always thought that this was the player's chance to show off,
that just scoring a touchdown for whatever in this generation
is not enough that they have to do something to
emphasize it and look cool with their buddies. You and
Sam last December, we're holding on to the thought that
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this was accidental. Have you guys both changed your mind
or you're still on the accident opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't think it's on purpose, and I don't think
it's about show budding. I do think it's a mental
thing that you know, it's like, what was this that?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
How many?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
How many interceptions he had in his career, Like he's
never done this right. So one of the things I
don't know if you guys played football whatever, I played football,
like growing up going into the end zone when all
you hear is your own breath and you see the
end zone is and like you're running like there's a
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million things kind of going through your mind. And whether
it's celebration or relief, I do think it's accidental. On
the other hand, it's one of those deals where at
some point it's not just about accountability, but we lack
sympathy because it's happened so many times over. You have
to be repeating it to yourself. Just hold on this,
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hold on this, just get the end zone, hold on
this hand to the ref, hold on this whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I'll uh.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
There's a portion of it which is coaching. There's a
portion of it which is selfish. There's a portion of
it which is just not paying attention, attention to detail.
And there's a portion of it where we have to
admit it's an out of body experience sometimes to score
a touchdown in the NFL. And I go back to
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why am I forgetting the movie? What's the movie with
the agent Jerry Maguire? Jerry Maguire, Right where here you
have a talented wide receiver and suddenly he starts dancing
in the end zone and kind of like again out
of body experience. He'd never done this before?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Why?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, because he had all this other stuff, pressure in
his life, whatever, and I won't dance, and then he
gets to the end zone, and then of course he
does dance. So I don't think it's with all these guys.
With most of these guys, it's really about selfishness as
much as they just there's an exhale that happens when
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they get the end zone and it has to be
trained out of you. But I'm also with you, Jaysetu.
This is like you're gonna be riding the fence where
this has to be coached, just has to be coached. Hey,
we don't do this if you don't coach it. At
this point, you're responsible for it. If you don't coach.
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I don't know what they got over with guys, but
if you don't go over it, you're responsible for it.
Cause it It's happened several times this year. And this
is like year twenty of This is the dumbest fucking
play of all time, and it happens all the time, Samue,
what do you think.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well, I think it has to happen a couple times
a year to to remind everyone else to not let
this happen. I almost thinks it's like a mic drop
when you're crossing the goal line. And yes, it's a
little bit of showing off, but I can't think it's
intentional because that would just be like anti football. It's
like you said, it's like you're having this sort of jubilation,
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you know, you you know, like a rage stroke where
you sort of get all lightheaded and you're like, oh,
this is more like jubilation and euphoria as you're crossing
the goal line, and like you said, you're just sort
of releasing the ball. What they should do is they
should have every guy coach every guy to go take
the ball and give it to the ref so it
just doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yes, but that's not cool. They wouldn't be they wouldn't
be cool in front of their buddies. And just to
be uh, to clarify what Doug said earlier, he scored
eleven touchdowns at TCU and he has scored three times
in the NFL. And I I also I'm glad that
you guys haven't changed your mind because the group same
group text that I sent with two football coaches and
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two guys that cover the NFL, one person was swayed.
So it's it was three and one that it's on purpose.
You know, what would help to know if these things
were done on purpose. Which is the most annoying part
of this story, is that I watched them ask questions
the de Macaro after the game, and he kept saying,
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no excuse, no excuse, can't happen, no excuse. Now, one
reporter asked, why do you do it? Why did you
do it? Not one, not one reporter. So we have
two guys in the studio who still think it's an accident,
one guy who is convinced that it's on purpose. Three
out of four of my football buddies are convinced that
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it's on purpose. But the only person who knows is
Dave Marcardo, and he needs to be asked why.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think it's subconscious. I don't think it's a conscious thing.
It's he's crossing the goal line and you have to
you know, you have when you go through a yellow light,
you've got to get all the way through.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I'll give you. I'm trying to think of a basket.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
You've got to get over the goal line.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, there's lots of things that guys do that they
don't realize they do. You know, It's like out of body.
We have one. I had one last year foreign player
who every time he would mess up, whether it be
a foul called or anything, he would look directly at
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me and like just like I was his dad and
like have his hands in the air like I didn't
do it or I'm my bad or whatever. And we
actually like showed him video of like dude, this is
You'd miss a shot.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And you'd turn and look at us.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Palms up, yeah, no, palms up, palms down.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You'll have guys that they'll shoot at three and then
they'll stare at it and they'll always go into their
three point celebration, which everybody has a three point celebration
when you really need to be getting back on defense.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
So Luca does that, he just kind of waits around.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I do think yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Again, some people have different sorts of of of of
transition defense. Some people do it's called tagging. That's when
you're only responsible for your guy being inside of you,
Like you're taking a three and you're got the guy
you're guarding is inside of you. That's your guy. You
don't have to be back any further than that guy.
So but I'm just saying, like for us, we don't
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do that. We have guys that are supposed to drop
and they shoot and they go in there or they
just stare it down and it's like they don't mean
to do it. I've doing this with my point guards.
My point guards all come back to the basketball. They'll
stand right next to the guy to get the ball
when what they need to be is down the court
or outletting it and crossing over and getting in front
of in front of the airspace of the other. Why well,
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because now we don't have to go ninety four feet
and to beat nine players down the court. Every step
down the court beats another player makes it quicker. So again,
a lot of these are just habits chased too. And
if you don't train and train and train out of
those habits, this is what happens. I'd love to see
if a Bill Belichick player ever did that in New England.
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And I bring it up because Belichick was a fanatic
for certain things. Ball security was one of them. They're
famous for playing where you take a football, you dunk
it in water and then they put it right in,
putting other substances on make it slippery, and making them
play through all these different things. I'm not blaming the
coaching staff, but you do have to own it as
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a coaching staff. So when you ask why you did it,
I'm sure the answer is I don't know. I don't
know that's in the subconscious. Do I think that we
promote an unhealthy amount of selfishness? Yeah, you get an
interception out and you run down to the end zone
as a team and you do some pose like what
But that's what social media likes. And the NFL only
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helps that because they think that's, you know, that gives
them social media equity, whereas really it's just look at me, celebratory.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
That's not what's really about.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
We took this I filled in for Cave we know
and Rich once. It was after one of the episodes
last year, and we took a call from a black
gentleman I think in Philadelphia somewhere, and it was like,
that was kind of like an eye opening thing for me.
I think callers are completely unnecessary on a talk show,
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but there was one caller who called in with this
theory and I can't forget it, and there's got to
be something to it. But I'm not the right skin
color to make this assumption. He says that there's something
about this generation that's a risk take there's a risk
taking gene that they want to go up to the
line and almost cross over the line, but just get
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up to the line and knock. And he used this
as an example. He said, You've seen these kind of
group of motorcycle riders on the freeway going one hundred
miles an hour and doing wheelies in traffic, and you're thinking,
why would anybody put their life on the line to
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basically just show off like it's And the answer is
because there's some kind of like a fucking weird risk
taking thing that this generation has. And he made that
argument for why these guys are dropping the ball right
before the end zone. Look house, how close I can
come to this being a fun Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I just think.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's an interesting That's I don't think that's in any way.
I don't think it's accurate, but it's fascinating. I don't
know if that's like the that's like the Seinfeld extra
strength tialent mell thing. All right, whatever is going to
kill me, doall it back just a little bit, that's
what I want, right.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I don't know if it's generational. I think young men,
maybe not educated. Young men have been doing risky things
like this for years and again it's like he's crossing
the goal line. It's a mic drop. It's dropping the ball.
I don't know if that has that has not been
a thing back forty to fifty years, guys dropping the
ball after they crossed the goal Jackson invented it. Okay,
so it just keeps getting the It's a symptom of
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the last twenty five years. Then is this dropping the
ball thing, because it looks cool to a mic drop.
You're dropping the balls, you cross the it's like, oh,
I'm too cool. I just picked you off boom and uh.
But you know, young men have been doing stupid things
for for eternity.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
So one more thing it's been annoying me is ti
Oscar Hernandez. He's the right fielder for the Dodgers. He
is he shouldn't be playing right field, but we have
this guy named Shoho Tani who takes up the DH spot.
So you have to put people in the field that
aren't major league fielders. TiO Hernandez is like a natural
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DH on a team that doesn't have a guy that
just sucks up the DH spot. Every single night, so
we have to put him in the field. I don't
know why we don't put him in left where there's
less risk. But TiO Hernandez has done two things in
the first two games of this series that are just
head scratching.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
In right field.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
On Saturday night, he let a ball get to the gap.
He let the catcher on the other team get the
third base on a triple and he eventually scored. TiO
Hernandez then stepped up two innings later and did this.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
He can make up for it with one swing the pitch,
the high in the right center field baitter on the
run on the warning track, he's at the wall.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
It's gone.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Tail time.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
In Game one, he flips the scoreboard with a three
run bomb.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
So that's the annoying part about having TiO Hernandez on
your team. He's an absolute liability in the field, and
then he hits the three run home run to give
your team to win.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
He's Kyle Schwarber back when Kyle Shorb was a Cub.
Remember Kyle Shorp was a Cub and they would try
and make him a catcher and we came up a catcher. Yeah, yeah,
but he's not. He can't catch at the major league level.
I think one thing that's really important for people to
point this out, okay, is this is aside from being annoying,
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I understand the context of what we're talking about, but
this is a really really important thought. When we say
Kylesh Schwarber can't be a catcher or a tasker, Hernandez
be a right fielder, we're not saying they can't play
right field. We're saying at the major league level. I
don't know if people understand how important fucking defense is
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eight and you can't. You just it's the the risk
is not worth the reward. Kyle Schwarber came up as
a catcher and then made his way to being an outfit.
He was an atrocious major league catcher, but he was
such a good hitter that the Cubs would, finally you
would would throw him out there because that was the
best that they could do.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Ultimately.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Obviously, now he's still a prodigious hitter, unbelievable hitter. But
with the universal DH it's help. It's helped his career
to where now he's a star. Tay Hernandez feels like
that guy. The one thing Hernandez has is I'd love
to see the numbers, the clutch numbers. It does feel
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like he's a clutch hitter in the postseason. Go back
to last year, to this year and through the wild
card now and it's it's the when you see him
Butcher playing right field and you're screaming, why is he
in the lineup, Dave? And then he strides to play.
You're like, that's why he's in the lineup, Dave.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Good job, and he's a really likable guy. Yes his
sunny disposition.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I got a.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Quick Tascar Hernandez story. So my buddy Vic Romero shout
out to Vic Oklahoma State Baseball. Last year during the
World Series, I was in Oklahoma and I was hanging
out with the Holidays and Vic is an assistant to Josh.
Josh Holiday is the head coach in Oklahoma State. Vix an assistant.
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His wife was pregnant with their second who's a boy,
and we're sitting around watching and watching baseball at the
Holiday's house. Is awesome, right, because they're looking at every
time the balls hit, they look at their phones to
see what the exit vlow was and they start talking
about shit, and you're like, I don't even know what
they're talking about, but I'm just learning about baseball anyway.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Part of it was whoever was the player of the game,
And I think this was like.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think it was World Series, like I don't know
thro all it Game three or Game fource something that
tiaskaranas was awesome, and we're like, whoever they play of
the game.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That's where naming Vick R.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Merrow's unborn son, and so they did not name him Tasker,
even though it should have been named Taskar because it's
kind of like it's still like a running joke, and
so anytime Taskar does anything good or bad on the.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Group chat, you'll get the Tasker.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
And then we always talk about, hey, have you told
your son what his namesake is doing for the Dodgers
this year? So to Askar Hernandez has a big spot
in nowing my heart, but in my memory because of
that conversation.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
What's most annoying?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I think it's what's most annoying you're you're kind of
bearing the league Jase two. It's the story comes out
and we have this incessant need to make an assumption
about it without hearing any of the details, and because
news mostly from our president has been deemed as fake
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news that even when the facts come out, people still
don't believe it. They're still dug in into what they
think it is. And the Mark Sanchez story could not
be a better representative of that problem, which is, the
story comes out Saturday morning, Mark Sanchez gets stabbed, every
one of us is like, WHOA, hope he's okay. But
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the leap that so many make in terms of who
might have done it what? But you got no idea.
You have no idea what somebody's doing in a foreign
city late at night on a Friday night, or what
went down. And this is the perfect example. It doesn't
mean that every story of somebody being attacked is really
they were attacking somebody else in self defense. It just
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means like, take a breath, wait till the facts come out,
and then if you deem yourself worthy of which everybody
thinks they have to have a fucking opinion on everything,
then when you have more information you can have more
of the comments. But think out people, you just feel dumb.
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You feel dumb and you're not. You're just emotional and
you hear a story and your inherent bias comes into play.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
To me, that is an.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Why are we doing this.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Because we can.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
All right, this is this is amazing because you did
something on Friday that was ultimately very prophetic. So, uh,
Cam Schlitzler was our Express pros Pro of the week,
and you explain to people why he was the pro
of the week as he had an amazing game in
the wildcard round, and you stop short of saying his
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name on live radio because that's a tricky name for
a broadcaster just to read cold or say Cam Schlittler, Schlitler, Schlittler, Schlitlerler.
Mad Dog Russo on his Serious X show proved Doug
Ottlieb Right.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Let me start here and then we'll get into Schlister,
who obviously was I was Shutner.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
It was just tremendous in the game.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Just stay stayed with the first pronunciation. There at least
we're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
If people remember the bit and we with a bit
came up kind of on the fly.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It was instead of me reading it, I had Sam
say Schlitler, right, because it's in the middle of a sentence.
It's a lot like when you get to talking and
you say Schlitler, it can come out the wrong way.
It's a herniated disc. Right, you could, I can say
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herniated disc. But when I start going you know, Randy
and raving and saying there was this one time where
I hurt my back and I went to the doctor
and the doctor said I had a herniated disc. Sometimes
it comes out or a ruptured disc. Right, you don't
put the right emphassist to the wrong salable. That's why
I made sure to say Cam Schlittler pronounced the correct way.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Now A Rod needed Sam live over the air on
set on Saturday.
Speaker 11 (43:09):
I'm bringing in three pitchers into my office. Private meeting
is gonna be Max Freed, is gonna be Cam Shit
Shitler and and Binar. And here's the bottom line. Those
are the only three guys that are gonna have the
ball tonight. Nobody says, yeah, well, I'm not gonna say
it again.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Let's just say, Cam, you gotta slow down when you
get to that word how but like again, you gotta
ponder a little harder.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Listen, listen, Jay stew You know I'll loan when I
when I fuck up, I'll loan it, okay, or when
I guess something and I guess wrong. But this one,
uh I had, I actually had three this weekend. I
had three this weekend that I feel really really good about. Okay,
one was Cam Schlittler.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
The other one was we were told that this was
a meh college football weekend, right, and on the meh
college football weekends, that's when you have the biggest upsets.
And that's exactly what seemed to happen. It's like way more,
way more chaotic.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Kelly Ford said. So he was like, this is one
of those weekends where they creep up on you and
all these crazy things happen.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So those two and then my pick of Clemson opening
up a six pack of whoopass on North Carolina. I
had a good weekend. I look, I'll have bad weekends.
I'll say things that don't prove to be true, but
I do know I have done this long enough, and
I talk enough to know when I'm going to mispronounce
a word. And that was one where I just said,
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it's way better off having Sam say Schlittler because he
could take time to make sure he pronounced it correctly,
the right and fastest and the right slable.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
So I didn't make the same error that many made.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I did dump I did dump another one of our hosts,
Rich Davis, because he said Shitler.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, and Rich Davis loves baseball like it's not for
it's not one of those words for lack of knowledge
of who he is right where you're just mispronouncing word.
Matter of fact, no one knows more baseball I think
on national radio than Mad Dog, right, like that's mad
Dog's dealst show has been on MLB network, right, he
knows it. It was funny that a Rod mispronounced it.
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Speaker 3 (45:25):
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