October 9, 2025 • 25 mins
Doug riffs on Bill Belichick. Doug reacts to A-Rod's take on the Yankees. Doug chooses among candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Kevin Gausman makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's talk about the Bill Belichick thing. Shall we weird
stories coming out where a local story says that Bill
Belichick's basically looking for his his exit from from North Carolina.
Then they come out at the press conference and says no, no, no, no, no,
We're good here Bill Belichick. This this from a David
Hale report. The Bill Belichick experiment at North Carolina is
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off to a disastrous start, but no one appears ready
to pull the plug just yet. I mean numerous reports
at Belichick and North Carolina were engaging negotiations to lower
the coaches buy out after a dismal start to his
tenure in Chapel Hill. Belichick and the school released adjointment
statement Wednesday night countering those claims. I'm fully committed North
Carolina football and the program we're building here. I don't
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know enough about it, Okay, I don't know enough about it.
Last week, apparently there was a letter sent by Mike Lombardi,
who's the general manager to donors, calling Carolina season part
of a rebuild, to players push a back endst notion
that the Clemson loss, and scrapping a plan documentary for
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the season. Again, Here's I've actually gone through this, and
I don't know what the energy behind me succeeding or
not succeeding is or Belichick. You know, but Belichick, quite
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possibly the way in which he treated people, the way
in which the Patriots acted when you're successful, and you know,
they thought people thought they were arrogant, and I think
they were arrogant when they took over the North Carolina job.
What's interesting is I get kind of lumped into this
boat of like, well, you know, arrogant, Like I've been
nothing but humble, appreciative, respectful, grateful for my opportunity. And
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so the only thing I can think of is this,
It's really sad out there how many people want to
see others fail when they get opportunities, Like who is
what is the why are there certain people that we
want to have get opportunities and certain people we do
not when you don't know them. For Belichick, the whole
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thing made sense to me. My issue with Belichick has
come to become obvious, which is, if you haven't coached
in college football, you have any evaluated college football, you
have to hire people that have coached and evaluated college football,
coached and evaluated college football. And until you do that,
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you know, until you do that, you're always going to
be kind of chasing it because that first year you
learn so much. Don't get me wrong, it's weird that
he's dating a twenty four year old. Don't get me wrong.
It's weird that at this point in his career this
is where he's gone. But again, it is football. I
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have no doubt that he can coach. It comes down
to one not just acquiring the right players, but acquiring
the right fits for what they want to do. Remember,
you get far less practice time in college football when
you have a whole new team. They have a completely
new football team. I don't know if if he stays
three years, four years, if it ultimately works out. I
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guess is it will. Smart people figured out out in
the end. It's gonna take you. There's an adjustment period.
And while you may say, well that's not the case
with pick out school, it's very likely that that school
was before the portal because what happens is when you
fire a coach and the portal, you lose your whole team.
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You lose your whole team. You gotta start from scratch.
If you hire a guy that wasn't coaching in college football,
or a staff that wasn't in college football, they can't
bring guys with them, can't bring guys with you. Well,
then everything is new, every teaching stations, every element of
it is new. And it's too hard to be new
and to all of a sudden win football. It's too
much complexity to it. How do I know I'm doing it?
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I've told people all along if I could, if I
could do it again, I probably would have hired a
high level Division two coach to bring several of his
players with me. It would have destroyed one of those
Division two teams, but it would have given me some
consistency to go along with the guys that returned, because otherwise,
you know, I had five guys, you know, to start
the year last year and then had to fill out
my roster. And when you don't know what you can get,
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you go and just try and take the best possible
players and then you try and figure it out. Football,
there's just not enough practices to figure it out and
you jump into the deep end. Plus he's Belichick, he
has a target on his back, and they came in
a little smug, little arrogant. I guess the point of
it is, I don't know if Bill Belichick's really going
to leave this job but really hates it, or if
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he actually likes it and understands the process. I can
tell you that when you didn't bring a team with you,
when you don't have a bunch of guys that coach
in college that they've recruited with you, when you start
completely fresh in a different sport at a different level,
it takes a while to adjust. But if Bill Belichick
can win for twenty straight years for the Newton Patriots,
there's no reason he can't ultimately win with the North
Carolina tar Hill.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
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for a previous portion of Fox Sports Trader or Fox
Sports Plunch Show, here's Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter talking
about the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Aaron has been very classic. We've all been very consistent
with that. Honestly, from the entire organization, he's the one
guy with Circle that has least to be to blame.
I mean, he's got a lot of talent, but for
me personally, one of the worst construction of a roster
I've ever seen. You have three left headed catchers, you
have five dhs, you have a first basement in and out.
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It's just a very very difficult hand for Boone. And honestly,
they were exposed against a much better Jay's team.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean, look, Aaron said it. They got beat.
They got beat. You know, last year, you can sit
back and talk about the World Series in Game five
and you can say Yankees beat themselves in that particular game.
In this series, the Toronto Blue Jays proved that they
were a better team right from top to bottom. They
were a better team. Aaron did a good job. I mean, look,
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he's working with what he has to work with, and
he sticks up for his players. I know he takes
a lot of heat, but look, I'm not saying it
from any inside knowledge, but I'm pretty sure Aaron's not
the one that's calling every move that they make throughout
the game.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So yeah, so we're doing that thing where I think
for Alex Rodriguez, we're settling old scores, and they're pointing
out that the front office, led by Brian Cashman, is
making a lot of these decisions, so it's very easy
for them to be critical of those decisions. Yeah, I
don't know. You know, a team that wasn't great, finish
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really strong, had very good starting pitching, and that starting
pitching struggled mightily. I don't care what you're you know,
do they not have good enough defense? Absolutely? And that
beat them last year in the World Series in Game five.
But when you're starting pitching is getting lit up in
a five game series, all three games or four games,
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there's not much you can do. Colin Cowhert said this
about Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Baker Mayfield, I swear he listens to our show yesterday
or a couple of days ago. He's talking about, you know,
the critics. Yeah, I wonder who that is. The critics
who say he's a little bit of a changed man.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Sold you guys, try and not get too high and
not get too low, which is something that I was
not doing early on in my career. But you know,
early on in my career, yeah, it's looked as cocky, immature.
Now it's moxy.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He's a dog.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
So it's same different days. Just as long as you
play well, they change the narrative. But you just got
to be yourself. And I've always been like that.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Okay. First of all, Baker Mayfield's too smart to not
get wiser as he ages. He's a wiser version of Baker. Now,
I do think, and I've said this multiple times, Baker's
mostly still Baker. He's a smarter version, a little wiser
because he's too smart not to be. We all grow
and get smarter. I mean, that's just the dumb guys
don't get smarter, still banging their head on the wall.
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Forty five Baker smart. And so the difference is the environments.
Cleveland is cold, impulsive, owner bitter because of all the losing,
and not really a supportive media. Tampa's got a better infrastructure,
better owners, great GM they're inviting. Cleveland felt like they
were poking them in the ribs. Tampa feels like they
open every door from it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, I understand what Baker's saying, and that, hey, I'm
the same guy, just people are reviewing me different. I
think that we have to take the context at the time,
when you're the number one overall pick, there are greater
expectations of you. And at the time they acquired a
guy who was seen as one of the elite wide
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receivers maybe in the history of the sport and OBJ
and I thought, Obj, that really hurt Baker, right, And look,
Baker's not the most talented guy in the world, and
some of that got exposed at that time. But I
just you understand Baker. It's it's a little bit of
the uh not major league, what's the what's the movie
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in the minor league? Bull Durham right, where if you
got fungus on your feet in UH? In the pros,
if you're twenty game winner, you're it's quirky. If not,
you're you're a slob.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Colorful, Yeah you're you're colorful.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you're winning games, yeah, you're winning games. So I
think part of it is Baker has to understand how
the media treats everybody, which is, if you're winning, we
overlook things. If you're losing, then we point out that's
reason he also was the number one overall pick, and
they're held to a higher standard. That's that's the way
it works. But I also think OBJ really really hurt
Baker because at the time he carried in the name, recognition,
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the ego of being one of the best players in football.
When that relationship soured and Obj's dad started killing Baker
on social media, then ultimately he was cooked. Here's Dan
Patrick talking about Bill Belichick.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
When you have to put out statements, Hey, we totally
backed Bill bell Like we're what, five games in and
we're putting out statements that doesn't bode well. Here. I
think what's happened. A lot of this has happened, and
that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets, you know, like,
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oh my gosh, you know, how does he let this happen? Exactly?
Bill never had messes in New England. Never he controlled everything,
and now it seems like he controls nothing. So I
put the blame is on Bill. Bill has to get
this right. And everything that you're hearing is like it's
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all negative. Now, granted they do have two wins, it's
just they've been blown out three times. But if you
didn't have all this drama, and let's say you had
a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys,
are you know there's positive positivity out there. Hey that
guy looks pretty good. Hey we got a bright future here. Well,
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you don't have any of that. And if you're a
recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want
your kid going to North Carolina. And North Carolina has
never had a problem with getting top talent. Never. This
is on Bill, it is.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But it isn't. Again. I love them, respect Dan, but
it just doesn't work that way. When you've never coached
college football, you can't watch a film. You can all
right what it looks like. You don't know what it's
like to coach. When you don't have a long runway,
a long lead up, you don't have guys that have
been in the program. You don't have guys that have
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Hey remember when we did this two three years ago.
You have no consistency and you have a whole new team.
It's hard to teach at that pace, and it's hard
to evaluate at that pace when others are You have
to also understand everybody they played is way ahead. It's
like Clemson is disappointing, but that's because they've had that
thing going for fifteen years. And oh yeah, by the way,
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whatever we think of Clemson, now, all those guys have
played there. They have not done the portal. All those
guys have played there forever. So there's a consistency in
a standard that's been set in North Carolina. Has none
of that?
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Is it on?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But you gotta give the guy a little bit of
chance here to work things out. That's what the fuck said.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. A couple of
weeks ago, Russell Wilson was in this segment. I think
he made most annoying because he refuses to actually be
a human being with feelings. Remember he said, Russell Wilson
said this.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
Now, I'm focused on helping the team win. You know,
I'm focused on helping Jackson. I'm focused on me getting
ready to be the best version of me. Today on Wednesday,
and so you know, I want to be here. You know,
I love this organization. I love the process of it all,
to love the guys in the locker room. I'm not
giving up on this on us in this season.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So Russell Wilson, when he woods benched as a veteran,
took that tact very in disingenuous, inauthentic, Russell Wilson being
a robot. This week, Jake Browning has been benched for
Joe Flacco, and this is kind of how a human
reocs to being benched.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
Obviously, I'm pissed, and if I wasn't pissed, then I
shouldn't be in this locker room. You know, I'm aware
of the role I played and in the offensive struggles
over the last few weeks, and you know, but I'm
also not shouldering the entire situation. I think at the
end of the day, you need to limit some turnovers
and stuff like that. But I think there's a lot
of other things that you know, kind of contributed to
to our our lack of offensive production. And you know,
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I think for me, I kind of point to even
you know, the Denver game where I did take the
ball he put up three points, So you know, I
don't I don't know obviously. Like I said, I'm I'm
not dumb or arrogant enough to think that I didn't
play my role in the offensive struggles. But you know,
I think there's a lot that goes into it, and
communication to me was trying to provide a spark on
offense after you know, getting beat pretty bad at three
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games in a row.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's it, Doug Jake Browning supplying the contrast to further
my point that Russell Wilson is annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I wish I could argue with you, but I cannot. Yeah, Jake,
Brian's but again, like that's what it's sposed. I'm pissed,
and who's going to be bad at that? But Russell Wilson,
in an effort to offend, is to are people as possible.
He appears to be as inauthentic as possible.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So this is very nuanced, but I'm going to touch
on a little part of it. It's become a thing.
It's a big social thing, big thing on Twitter. But
I'm just going to touch on a part of it.
In other words, I'm going to do what I would
prefer Ryan Clark did I'm not going to talk in
declaratives about something I know nothing about. There was a
horrible traffic accident in late twenty twenty four in Louisiana.
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One person was killed in the accident. Police say that
former LSU receiver Kyrin Lacy caused the accident and was
going to be up for grand jury. I think in
April and Kyrin Lacey took his own life. Okay, very tragic.
It sucks, but of course it's turned into our police
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bad and our blacks being targeted by people like Ran Clark.
This is what he said on live TV in the
middle of Monday football coverage. I think Sports Center. Maybe
I don't know, but Scott Vanpelt Kyrien.
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Lacy was supposed to be in the NFL. Kyen Lacy
was accused of something and being investigated for something that
he didn't do, and he died having to live with
the guilt and the consequences of a guilty man knowing
he was innocent. It recently was discovered that he was
seventy two yards away from the crash that police and
state policemen tried to cool hurtz and doctor and use
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ways to manipulate statements that put this young man behind bars.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Okay, so police are bad, police are assholes and they
targeted yet another black man. Well, police actually released footage
that showed quite a different story that he was traveling
at high speed against traffic and may have actually been
the reason for the wreck. So everybody's in apology mode.
Over at Disney. Scott Van Pelt, Pat McAfee, and then
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Ryan Clark on First Take Today offered this.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
I've never really had much trouble on expressing anything. This
has been more difficult because I know that people are hurting.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right.
Speaker 11 (17:47):
Two lives have been lost, Herman Hall, a man who
spent his life in service of other and Karen Lacy's.
He's just a young man who I wish I could
tell how much he had to live for. My heart
absolutely breaks for both of them, their families, and their
loved ones. On Monday Night's Sports Center, I addressed the
horrific car crash that took mister Hall's life and also
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the subsequent tragic events that led to the death of
Karen Lacey in full transparency. Y'all, I knew Knraen Lacey personally,
but nothing matters to me more than the truth always
strive to do my best to mix authenticity with the
most complete and up to date information available. I failed
to do that on Monday night. Based on the subsequent
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evidence that has been released by the Louisiana State Police Department.
I set the highest standards of fairness and most importantly,
righteousness in my work. I didn't meet that standard. But
since I've spoken to Karen's representation at length, and I've
also reached out to a representative at the State Police
Office just to have a conversation, they informed me this
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morning that because it's ongoing litigation, they actually can't divulge
anything else. It's always important to me that I gather
all factual and important information to provide the complete story
possibility that I do not take lightly, and when discussed
in real time on Monday evening, I fail to do so,
and for that I apologize.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So Ryan Clark is not held to a journalist's standard.
He didn't go to journalism school. He's not considered a journalist.
He's a provocateur who takes one side of every racial argument.
You're not fair. You don't seek the truth, So don't
lie to us and tell us that you're seeking truth.
Don't lie to us and tell us that you're always
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looking for balance. Both of those are complete bullshit. Ryan
Clark trying to pull some journalistic card when he was
just doing what he always does. That's annoying.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I there's nothing more annoying than that. I mean, it's
how many times do you get to apologize for making
a blatant journalistic gaff on ESPN? And I agree with
you that he shouldn't be held to a journalistic standard.
The problem is that he's presented as such. He's on
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a network you know that presents him as such, and
a network which, at least when I worked there, we
were supposed to abide by journalistic standards. Look, I don't
know the guy, so I don't dislike the guy. I
just think he overreacts to what he sees on social
media and treats it a Zipit's law. That's I think
his biggest issue.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
This one's really easy. It's annoying to watch a Hall
of Famer, a guy that's represented your favorite team the
way he has possibly end his career like Clayton Kershaw
did last night, had an atrocious eighth inning. I'm guessing
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at some point the code red was called from front
office after he struggled a little in the eighth and
they said he needs to eat this, and we're punting
the game, and they just left Kershaw out to be
a battering ram. That was annoying. I hated saying. Its
simple as that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, it was hard to watch. It was hard to watch,
you know, just was it was difficult to watch. We
talked about some of the radio show, but after the
seventh inning, it was obvious he didn't have good stuff.
They crushed the ball in the seventh inning, so why
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put it back out there for the eighth It was
still a two run game, obviously, once it got out
of hand in the eighth he started walking. Dudes, gives
up a home run, You're like, all right now, just
you're just gonna eat it for the rest of the bullpen.
But I never understood why he was out there for
the eighth ning to begin with, when it was painfully
obvious he did not have his stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So that watching an old guy get hammered. Ryan Clark
in general and then Russell Wilson is a hole.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I have one. I have one for you. Did you
see the change in the NCAA ruling yesterday? For gambling.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Oh good, I'm glad you did not. So the NCAA
changed the rules on gambling on professional sports for college athletes.
So here's the actual In the actual email, the Administrative
Committee was clear its discussion day the remains concerned about
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the risk associated with all forms of sports gambling. Both
ultimately voted to reduce restrictions on student athletes in the
area to better align with their campus peers. This change
allows the NCAA, the conferences, and the member schools to
focus on protecting the integrity of the game, while at
the same time encouraging healthy habits for student athletes who
engage in betting activities in professional sports. Are you fucking
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kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? So, the NCAA's
waved the white flag on gambling, and they cite this
research that says sixty seven percent of college students engage
in sports gambling sports betting on a somewhat regular basis.
So because the students are doing it, you can do it.
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The NCAA has adopted the standards of Little Johnny. Right,
because little Johnny goes to his parents and says, well,
Stevie and Mary and Jadie get to do it, why
can't I? So let me get this straight. We're going
to compensate student athletes so they have some extra money.
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We're going to legalize sports gambling because their friends are
all doing it. By the way, their friends have always
done it. Hey, that hasn't changed. It's only now become
legal because it's it's legal in certain states. It's now
going to be legal for college student athletes. The same
problems present themselves. It's not just about losing money. It's
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about at some point, if you lose money, especially with
the illegal gambling ring, now what happens. You want to
protect this sankity of the game. How does that make
any sense? And if you want to say it's not fair,
it's not fair, then we can't gamble on sports. Yes
it is. Again, at some point you go, hey, if
you want to make a crap ton of money more
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than the student athletes, you get full scholarship, you get
cost of attendance, and then you get your rev share,
maybe you get nil whatever, and some it's little money,
some of it's huge money. Hey, you can get all
those things. You just can't bet on professional sports. Now
you can't. Now you can't. The incessant need for people
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to be free to gamble and the potential for disaster
within collegiate sports as annoyer.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Why are we doing this? I do because we can.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Hey, Doug, Yes, Uh, what happens when a bunch of alcohol,
a bunch of excitement and live TV mix with Blue
Jays starter Kevin Goussman.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
We're not done yet, We're we're fucking fired up. We're
ready to go. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We're fucking let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Fuck yeah, let's go Canada. I'm not mad. I'm not mad,
not mad at all. Uh, it's pretty good. But I
love it. I love the when you when you're fired
up and you mix alcohol and energy in a win,
put it on TV, and this is what happens. Why
do we play it for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. You got the
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Do do Do? Do do?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's talk about the Bill Belichick thing. Shall we weird
stories coming out where a local story says that Bill
Belichick's basically looking for his his exit from from North Carolina.
Then they come out at the press conference and says no, no, no, no, no,
We're good here Bill Belichick. This this from a David
Hale report. The Bill Belichick experiment at North Carolina is
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off to a disastrous start, but no one appears ready
to pull the plug just yet. I mean numerous reports
at Belichick and North Carolina were engaging negotiations to lower
the coaches buy out after a dismal start to his
tenure in Chapel Hill. Belichick and the school released adjointment
statement Wednesday night countering those claims. I'm fully committed North
Carolina football and the program we're building here. I don't
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know enough about it, Okay, I don't know enough about it.
Last week, apparently there was a letter sent by Mike Lombardi,
who's the general manager to donors, calling Carolina season part
of a rebuild, to players push a back endst notion
that the Clemson loss, and scrapping a plan documentary for
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the season. Again, Here's I've actually gone through this, and
I don't know what the energy behind me succeeding or
not succeeding is or Belichick. You know, but Belichick, quite
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possibly the way in which he treated people, the way
in which the Patriots acted when you're successful, and you know,
they thought people thought they were arrogant, and I think
they were arrogant when they took over the North Carolina job.
What's interesting is I get kind of lumped into this
boat of like, well, you know, arrogant, Like I've been
nothing but humble, appreciative, respectful, grateful for my opportunity. And
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so the only thing I can think of is this,
It's really sad out there how many people want to
see others fail when they get opportunities, Like who is
what is the why are there certain people that we
want to have get opportunities and certain people we do
not when you don't know them. For Belichick, the whole
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thing made sense to me. My issue with Belichick has
come to become obvious, which is, if you haven't coached
in college football, you have any evaluated college football, you
have to hire people that have coached and evaluated college football,
coached and evaluated college football. And until you do that,
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you know, until you do that, you're always going to
be kind of chasing it because that first year you
learn so much. Don't get me wrong, it's weird that
he's dating a twenty four year old. Don't get me wrong.
It's weird that at this point in his career this
is where he's gone. But again, it is football. I
(03:36):
have no doubt that he can coach. It comes down
to one not just acquiring the right players, but acquiring
the right fits for what they want to do. Remember,
you get far less practice time in college football when
you have a whole new team. They have a completely
new football team. I don't know if if he stays
three years, four years, if it ultimately works out. I
(03:57):
guess is it will. Smart people figured out out in
the end. It's gonna take you. There's an adjustment period.
And while you may say, well that's not the case
with pick out school, it's very likely that that school
was before the portal because what happens is when you
fire a coach and the portal, you lose your whole team.
(04:18):
You lose your whole team. You gotta start from scratch.
If you hire a guy that wasn't coaching in college football,
or a staff that wasn't in college football, they can't
bring guys with them, can't bring guys with you. Well,
then everything is new, every teaching stations, every element of
it is new. And it's too hard to be new
and to all of a sudden win football. It's too
much complexity to it. How do I know I'm doing it?
(04:41):
I've told people all along if I could, if I
could do it again, I probably would have hired a
high level Division two coach to bring several of his
players with me. It would have destroyed one of those
Division two teams, but it would have given me some
consistency to go along with the guys that returned, because otherwise,
you know, I had five guys, you know, to start
the year last year and then had to fill out
my roster. And when you don't know what you can get,
(05:04):
you go and just try and take the best possible
players and then you try and figure it out. Football,
there's just not enough practices to figure it out and
you jump into the deep end. Plus he's Belichick, he
has a target on his back, and they came in
a little smug, little arrogant. I guess the point of
it is, I don't know if Bill Belichick's really going
to leave this job but really hates it, or if
(05:24):
he actually likes it and understands the process. I can
tell you that when you didn't bring a team with you,
when you don't have a bunch of guys that coach
in college that they've recruited with you, when you start
completely fresh in a different sport at a different level,
it takes a while to adjust. But if Bill Belichick
can win for twenty straight years for the Newton Patriots,
there's no reason he can't ultimately win with the North
Carolina tar Hill.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
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Speaker 2 (05:56):
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for a previous portion of Fox Sports Trader or Fox
Sports Plunch Show, here's Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter talking
about the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Aaron has been very classic. We've all been very consistent
with that. Honestly, from the entire organization, he's the one
guy with Circle that has least to be to blame.
I mean, he's got a lot of talent, but for
me personally, one of the worst construction of a roster
I've ever seen. You have three left headed catchers, you
have five dhs, you have a first basement in and out.
(06:31):
It's just a very very difficult hand for Boone. And honestly,
they were exposed against a much better Jay's team.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean, look, Aaron said it. They got beat.
They got beat. You know, last year, you can sit
back and talk about the World Series in Game five
and you can say Yankees beat themselves in that particular game.
In this series, the Toronto Blue Jays proved that they
were a better team right from top to bottom. They
were a better team. Aaron did a good job. I mean, look,
(06:59):
he's working with what he has to work with, and
he sticks up for his players. I know he takes
a lot of heat, but look, I'm not saying it
from any inside knowledge, but I'm pretty sure Aaron's not
the one that's calling every move that they make throughout
the game.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So yeah, so we're doing that thing where I think
for Alex Rodriguez, we're settling old scores, and they're pointing
out that the front office, led by Brian Cashman, is
making a lot of these decisions, so it's very easy
for them to be critical of those decisions. Yeah, I
don't know. You know, a team that wasn't great, finish
(07:39):
really strong, had very good starting pitching, and that starting
pitching struggled mightily. I don't care what you're you know,
do they not have good enough defense? Absolutely? And that
beat them last year in the World Series in Game five.
But when you're starting pitching is getting lit up in
a five game series, all three games or four games,
(08:01):
there's not much you can do. Colin Cowhert said this
about Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Baker Mayfield, I swear he listens to our show yesterday
or a couple of days ago. He's talking about, you know,
the critics. Yeah, I wonder who that is. The critics
who say he's a little bit of a changed man.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Sold you guys, try and not get too high and
not get too low, which is something that I was
not doing early on in my career. But you know,
early on in my career, yeah, it's looked as cocky, immature.
Now it's moxy.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He's a dog.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
So it's same different days. Just as long as you
play well, they change the narrative. But you just got
to be yourself. And I've always been like that.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Okay. First of all, Baker Mayfield's too smart to not
get wiser as he ages. He's a wiser version of Baker. Now,
I do think, and I've said this multiple times, Baker's
mostly still Baker. He's a smarter version, a little wiser
because he's too smart not to be. We all grow
and get smarter. I mean, that's just the dumb guys
don't get smarter, still banging their head on the wall.
(09:00):
Forty five Baker smart. And so the difference is the environments.
Cleveland is cold, impulsive, owner bitter because of all the losing,
and not really a supportive media. Tampa's got a better infrastructure,
better owners, great GM they're inviting. Cleveland felt like they
were poking them in the ribs. Tampa feels like they
open every door from it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, I understand what Baker's saying, and that, hey, I'm
the same guy, just people are reviewing me different. I
think that we have to take the context at the time,
when you're the number one overall pick, there are greater
expectations of you. And at the time they acquired a
guy who was seen as one of the elite wide
(09:42):
receivers maybe in the history of the sport and OBJ
and I thought, Obj, that really hurt Baker, right, And look,
Baker's not the most talented guy in the world, and
some of that got exposed at that time. But I
just you understand Baker. It's it's a little bit of
the uh not major league, what's the what's the movie
(10:08):
in the minor league? Bull Durham right, where if you
got fungus on your feet in UH? In the pros,
if you're twenty game winner, you're it's quirky. If not,
you're you're a slob.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Colorful, Yeah you're you're colorful.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you're winning games, yeah, you're winning games. So I
think part of it is Baker has to understand how
the media treats everybody, which is, if you're winning, we
overlook things. If you're losing, then we point out that's
reason he also was the number one overall pick, and
they're held to a higher standard. That's that's the way
it works. But I also think OBJ really really hurt
Baker because at the time he carried in the name, recognition,
(10:43):
the ego of being one of the best players in football.
When that relationship soured and Obj's dad started killing Baker
on social media, then ultimately he was cooked. Here's Dan
Patrick talking about Bill Belichick.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
When you have to put out statements, Hey, we totally
backed Bill bell Like we're what, five games in and
we're putting out statements that doesn't bode well. Here. I
think what's happened. A lot of this has happened, and
that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets, you know, like,
(11:17):
oh my gosh, you know, how does he let this happen? Exactly?
Bill never had messes in New England. Never he controlled everything,
and now it seems like he controls nothing. So I
put the blame is on Bill. Bill has to get
this right. And everything that you're hearing is like it's
(11:38):
all negative. Now, granted they do have two wins, it's
just they've been blown out three times. But if you
didn't have all this drama, and let's say you had
a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys,
are you know there's positive positivity out there. Hey that
guy looks pretty good. Hey we got a bright future here. Well,
(11:59):
you don't have any of that. And if you're a
recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want
your kid going to North Carolina. And North Carolina has
never had a problem with getting top talent. Never. This
is on Bill, it is.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But it isn't. Again. I love them, respect Dan, but
it just doesn't work that way. When you've never coached
college football, you can't watch a film. You can all
right what it looks like. You don't know what it's
like to coach. When you don't have a long runway,
a long lead up, you don't have guys that have
been in the program. You don't have guys that have
(12:37):
Hey remember when we did this two three years ago.
You have no consistency and you have a whole new team.
It's hard to teach at that pace, and it's hard
to evaluate at that pace when others are You have
to also understand everybody they played is way ahead. It's
like Clemson is disappointing, but that's because they've had that
thing going for fifteen years. And oh yeah, by the way,
(13:00):
whatever we think of Clemson, now, all those guys have
played there. They have not done the portal. All those
guys have played there forever. So there's a consistency in
a standard that's been set in North Carolina. Has none
of that?
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Is it on?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But you gotta give the guy a little bit of
chance here to work things out. That's what the fuck said.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. A couple of
weeks ago, Russell Wilson was in this segment. I think
he made most annoying because he refuses to actually be
a human being with feelings. Remember he said, Russell Wilson
said this.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
Now, I'm focused on helping the team win. You know,
I'm focused on helping Jackson. I'm focused on me getting
ready to be the best version of me. Today on Wednesday,
and so you know, I want to be here. You know,
I love this organization. I love the process of it all,
to love the guys in the locker room. I'm not
giving up on this on us in this season.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So Russell Wilson, when he woods benched as a veteran,
took that tact very in disingenuous, inauthentic, Russell Wilson being
a robot. This week, Jake Browning has been benched for
Joe Flacco, and this is kind of how a human
reocs to being benched.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
Obviously, I'm pissed, and if I wasn't pissed, then I
shouldn't be in this locker room. You know, I'm aware
of the role I played and in the offensive struggles
over the last few weeks, and you know, but I'm
also not shouldering the entire situation. I think at the
end of the day, you need to limit some turnovers
and stuff like that. But I think there's a lot
of other things that you know, kind of contributed to
to our our lack of offensive production. And you know,
(14:56):
I think for me, I kind of point to even
you know, the Denver game where I did take the
ball he put up three points, So you know, I
don't I don't know obviously. Like I said, I'm I'm
not dumb or arrogant enough to think that I didn't
play my role in the offensive struggles. But you know,
I think there's a lot that goes into it, and
communication to me was trying to provide a spark on
offense after you know, getting beat pretty bad at three
(15:16):
games in a row.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's it, Doug Jake Browning supplying the contrast to further
my point that Russell Wilson is annoying.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I wish I could argue with you, but I cannot. Yeah, Jake,
Brian's but again, like that's what it's sposed. I'm pissed,
and who's going to be bad at that? But Russell Wilson,
in an effort to offend, is to are people as possible.
He appears to be as inauthentic as possible.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So this is very nuanced, but I'm going to touch
on a little part of it. It's become a thing.
It's a big social thing, big thing on Twitter. But
I'm just going to touch on a part of it.
In other words, I'm going to do what I would
prefer Ryan Clark did I'm not going to talk in
declaratives about something I know nothing about. There was a
horrible traffic accident in late twenty twenty four in Louisiana.
(16:10):
One person was killed in the accident. Police say that
former LSU receiver Kyrin Lacy caused the accident and was
going to be up for grand jury. I think in
April and Kyrin Lacey took his own life. Okay, very tragic.
It sucks, but of course it's turned into our police
(16:31):
bad and our blacks being targeted by people like Ran Clark.
This is what he said on live TV in the
middle of Monday football coverage. I think Sports Center. Maybe
I don't know, but Scott Vanpelt Kyrien.
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Lacy was supposed to be in the NFL. Kyen Lacy
was accused of something and being investigated for something that
he didn't do, and he died having to live with
the guilt and the consequences of a guilty man knowing
he was innocent. It recently was discovered that he was
seventy two yards away from the crash that police and
state policemen tried to cool hurtz and doctor and use
(17:09):
ways to manipulate statements that put this young man behind bars.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Okay, so police are bad, police are assholes and they
targeted yet another black man. Well, police actually released footage
that showed quite a different story that he was traveling
at high speed against traffic and may have actually been
the reason for the wreck. So everybody's in apology mode.
Over at Disney. Scott Van Pelt, Pat McAfee, and then
(17:37):
Ryan Clark on First Take Today offered this.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
I've never really had much trouble on expressing anything. This
has been more difficult because I know that people are hurting.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right.
Speaker 11 (17:47):
Two lives have been lost, Herman Hall, a man who
spent his life in service of other and Karen Lacy's.
He's just a young man who I wish I could
tell how much he had to live for. My heart
absolutely breaks for both of them, their families, and their
loved ones. On Monday Night's Sports Center, I addressed the
horrific car crash that took mister Hall's life and also
(18:07):
the subsequent tragic events that led to the death of
Karen Lacey in full transparency. Y'all, I knew Knraen Lacey personally,
but nothing matters to me more than the truth always
strive to do my best to mix authenticity with the
most complete and up to date information available. I failed
to do that on Monday night. Based on the subsequent
(18:27):
evidence that has been released by the Louisiana State Police Department.
I set the highest standards of fairness and most importantly,
righteousness in my work. I didn't meet that standard. But
since I've spoken to Karen's representation at length, and I've
also reached out to a representative at the State Police
Office just to have a conversation, they informed me this
(18:47):
morning that because it's ongoing litigation, they actually can't divulge
anything else. It's always important to me that I gather
all factual and important information to provide the complete story
possibility that I do not take lightly, and when discussed
in real time on Monday evening, I fail to do so,
and for that I apologize.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So Ryan Clark is not held to a journalist's standard.
He didn't go to journalism school. He's not considered a journalist.
He's a provocateur who takes one side of every racial argument.
You're not fair. You don't seek the truth, So don't
lie to us and tell us that you're seeking truth.
Don't lie to us and tell us that you're always
(19:29):
looking for balance. Both of those are complete bullshit. Ryan
Clark trying to pull some journalistic card when he was
just doing what he always does. That's annoying.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I there's nothing more annoying than that. I mean, it's
how many times do you get to apologize for making
a blatant journalistic gaff on ESPN? And I agree with
you that he shouldn't be held to a journalistic standard.
The problem is that he's presented as such. He's on
(20:02):
a network you know that presents him as such, and
a network which, at least when I worked there, we
were supposed to abide by journalistic standards. Look, I don't
know the guy, so I don't dislike the guy. I
just think he overreacts to what he sees on social
media and treats it a Zipit's law. That's I think
his biggest issue.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
This one's really easy. It's annoying to watch a Hall
of Famer, a guy that's represented your favorite team the
way he has possibly end his career like Clayton Kershaw
did last night, had an atrocious eighth inning. I'm guessing
(20:44):
at some point the code red was called from front
office after he struggled a little in the eighth and
they said he needs to eat this, and we're punting
the game, and they just left Kershaw out to be
a battering ram. That was annoying. I hated saying. Its
simple as that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, it was hard to watch. It was hard to watch,
you know, just was it was difficult to watch. We
talked about some of the radio show, but after the
seventh inning, it was obvious he didn't have good stuff.
They crushed the ball in the seventh inning, so why
(21:25):
put it back out there for the eighth It was
still a two run game, obviously, once it got out
of hand in the eighth he started walking. Dudes, gives
up a home run, You're like, all right now, just
you're just gonna eat it for the rest of the bullpen.
But I never understood why he was out there for
the eighth ning to begin with, when it was painfully
obvious he did not have his stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So that watching an old guy get hammered. Ryan Clark
in general and then Russell Wilson is a hole.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I have one. I have one for you. Did you
see the change in the NCAA ruling yesterday? For gambling.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Oh good, I'm glad you did not. So the NCAA
changed the rules on gambling on professional sports for college athletes.
So here's the actual In the actual email, the Administrative
Committee was clear its discussion day the remains concerned about
(22:21):
the risk associated with all forms of sports gambling. Both
ultimately voted to reduce restrictions on student athletes in the
area to better align with their campus peers. This change
allows the NCAA, the conferences, and the member schools to
focus on protecting the integrity of the game, while at
the same time encouraging healthy habits for student athletes who
engage in betting activities in professional sports. Are you fucking
(22:43):
kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? So, the NCAA's
waved the white flag on gambling, and they cite this
research that says sixty seven percent of college students engage
in sports gambling sports betting on a somewhat regular basis.
So because the students are doing it, you can do it.
(23:08):
The NCAA has adopted the standards of Little Johnny. Right,
because little Johnny goes to his parents and says, well,
Stevie and Mary and Jadie get to do it, why
can't I? So let me get this straight. We're going
to compensate student athletes so they have some extra money.
(23:29):
We're going to legalize sports gambling because their friends are
all doing it. By the way, their friends have always
done it. Hey, that hasn't changed. It's only now become
legal because it's it's legal in certain states. It's now
going to be legal for college student athletes. The same
problems present themselves. It's not just about losing money. It's
(23:52):
about at some point, if you lose money, especially with
the illegal gambling ring, now what happens. You want to
protect this sankity of the game. How does that make
any sense? And if you want to say it's not fair,
it's not fair, then we can't gamble on sports. Yes
it is. Again, at some point you go, hey, if
you want to make a crap ton of money more
(24:14):
than the student athletes, you get full scholarship, you get
cost of attendance, and then you get your rev share,
maybe you get nil whatever, and some it's little money,
some of it's huge money. Hey, you can get all
those things. You just can't bet on professional sports. Now
you can't. Now you can't. The incessant need for people
(24:38):
to be free to gamble and the potential for disaster
within collegiate sports as annoyer.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Why are we doing this? I do because we can.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Hey, Doug, Yes, Uh, what happens when a bunch of alcohol,
a bunch of excitement and live TV mix with Blue
Jays starter Kevin Goussman.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
We're not done yet, We're we're fucking fired up. We're
ready to go. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We're fucking let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Fuck yeah, let's go Canada. I'm not mad. I'm not mad,
not mad at all. Uh, it's pretty good. But I
love it. I love the when you when you're fired
up and you mix alcohol and energy in a win,
put it on TV, and this is what happens. Why
do we play it for you? Because we can't. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. You got the
(25:42):
radio show every day three to five Eastern twelve, Topacific,
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