October 20, 2025 • 35 mins
Doug riffs about Shohei Ohtani and his accomplishment in game four of the NLCS. Doug reacts to Dan Beyer's take on the Broncos. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Pat Mahomes makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the bonus Fox Sports Radio.
I heart radio app Welcome in. It's a Monday. Which
is what I don't want to do is I don't
want to diminish our weekend radio friends, our weekend radio shows.
(00:29):
At Fox Sports Radio. Dan Byer works with us. He
hosts a show with Carry Rhodes every Sunday, and he
does a great job of it. You know, we have
Rich Ormberger on. He co hosts the show every Saturday morning.
So I'm not diminishing Saturday and Sunday radio. Saturday and
Sunday radio is just generally different. Right. It's a lot
like in news, when you have bad news, they call
(00:50):
it news dump Friday and holiday weekend, especially if you
have a bad story, you dump it after four o'clock
so the press can't run. They still run with it,
but people are less inclined to pay attention to news
stories on a Saturday and a Sunday. By the time
you get to Monday, there's there's something else in the
news cycle. I bring that up because the Shoheo Tani
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on Friday night had what many people consider the greatest
single postseason baseball performance of all time. I'm not gonna
sit here and judge it. I'm just not I don't
have the historic knowledge, but I can tell you that,
you know, it's like, if we're going back to compareing
to Bait Ruth, then it's pretty amazing. He strikes out
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ten in just six innings of work, and oh yeah,
by the way, he hit three home runs, including one
out of the stadium into the pavilion, and the Dodgers
win close out the series. And it's just Jason, it's
just super unique that it happened on a Friday night.
(01:56):
It also happened in baseball, all right. Baseball is not
king like it used to be. But it happened on
a Friday night. Then we had an incredible Saturday, then
we had a really good Sunday. And so for many
shows it's gone into the ether where I still want
to talk about it, but it does seem like the
fact that it happened on a Friday night kind of
diminishes it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't get that. I'm not
sure I relate to that well.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, think about how much are people talking about
it today.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I've heard a lot of it. I've actually heard a
lot of it. I think that certain things, I think
transcend that kind of weekend delay. I've heard a lot
of it today. Dan had something this morning, Colin has
something rich eyes on across the street. People are talking
about it because it was such an anomaly. We just
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don't see these kinds of performances in sports. Everyone has
to have an opinion of it, and to be honest,
like the greatest performance of all time, I would say,
by now, that's kind of an old topic. By now.
Now it's just more of kind of a reflection and
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what happens moving forward with the Dodgers, what team would
they rather play tonight? But as far as the actual moment,
I don't think you can make a convincing argument to
me that any other individual's performance is better. And I've
heard a lot of people go through the weeds and
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dig deep and come up with some really crazy performances
that you've never heard about, And I think that's that
speaks for itself. You're bringing something to the table that
I've never heard about, and I've watched and followed baseball
for the better part of fifty years. That should be
the answer to your question.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, it's yeah. I I do think the next question
is did the Dodgers have to win a World Series
to validate his greatness? I think the answer is no.
Does it help? Sure? I also don't get the pressure argument.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's like again, I think we kind of overthink these
things in that if he can come through in a
in a close out game and a Game three of
the CS, but then all of a sudden he's he's
pull there's too much pressure from the World Series. I
don't see that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My theory is this my theory, And I said it
on the air as well, and I've been selling this
theory on my Dodgers group chat and on social media,
and so I want everyone just to believe that it's true.
When all you do is hit, here's the downside of
being a DH I remember hearing Edgar Martinez said something
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like this once. Uh the late Dave Parker, who I
mistook for Dave Stewart last last week said this once.
When all you do is hit, it's easier to get
in your head. In other words, if you've got something
else to do in the field. There's something else to
take up your time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, that's actually a really I like.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That when he hit the pitching mound and has to
worry about nine other hitters, that alleviates the pressure of hitting.
He could fucking go up to home plate more free.
And I think that's why we saw the greatest performance
of any baseball player ever.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I like that. Uh, okay, I'll take it into consideration.
My thing would would be, I don't there's lots of
things that we underrate about him, or that the casual
may not understand. The first thing is that he's a
great pitcher. He just hasn't been healthy. Right. It's not
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like he you know, he's been fine. It's a sideshow.
It's just to say that he pitches like no. When
he's been healthy, he's a top ten starter in the league,
maybe top fifteen start in league. He just hasn't been
healthy enough. He's had two Tommy John surgeries. Second part
about it is just how big and strong of a
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man that he is. I know, they change the size
of the bases, which has increased the speed in the game,
but also how fast he is and how smart a
base runner. He is My argument for him is he's
the greatest player of all time, not just you know,
having the greatest performance. And I get that. We deal
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with the sample size and baseball and playoffs and understanding
like he just had what you deem to be the
greatest playoff performance of all time, and we get caught
up in droughts and not stopping and catching our breath going. Hey,
baseball has always been about what your average is, and
the more it goes, the more his overall average will
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go up in the playoffs because he's that good. I
don't know. I just that was as memorable a time
watching baseball as you can have. Like the dude strikes
out the side to start the game and then he
goes up and takes the takes the That's like some
little league shit who does that? Who strikes out the side,
grabs a bat, leads off, hits a.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Home run while throwing five nasty pitches while having triple digits.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes, it's it's it's obscene and like do I do
I care? Was it bab Ruth's fault that he didn't
play against black players Dominica players like No and Babe
Ruth did not have the benefits of weight training and
all the things they have. Hey, but he was not
this level of dominant as a pitcher. He was this
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devil dominant as a hitter. He also wasn't this level
dominant on the base pass. So I I it was
an amazing night. It now the second greatest performance I've
ever seen in Dodger Stadium. Mine is still and I
know it's one swing at the bat, but I watched
again to day it is still Kirk Gibson. But the
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overall personal dominance we never see, We never will see
that level of personal dominance from one by one guy
in this level of game.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
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Speaker 2 (08:34):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now every
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Bonus Podcast, we'll play for your previous portion of Fox
Sports One. Fox Sports Radio Show. Here's Dan Byer and
Carry Rhodes having this reaction to the Broncos come back
win against the Giants yesterday.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I honestly feel bad for the Green Bay Packers and
they won today. The reason being is they had a
great win against the Arizona Cardinals held off Arizona, but
it just was completely overshadowed by the craziness that was
going on in Denver. Kerrie still is trying to figure
out what went on. I saw a stat the Broncos
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became the first team in NFL history to score thirty
three or more points in the fourth quarter when scoring
zero in the first three quarters.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
M I still don't believe it happened.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I think the score operator put eight points on there,
like by mistake, Dan, that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
We had a missed extra point in the fourth quarter.
We also had one earlier in the game that I'm
sure Giants fans are kicking themselves for. We had a
pass interference and then a penalty on Sean Payton for
not happy with the pass interference. Jackson Dart scores too soon.
Let's just be real. Then the Broncos have these amazing plays.
We saw a shot of the Giants defender with the
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oxygen on. Yeah, you said to me, that's a real fan,
that's a real thing. So the Giants defense was gas
absolutely no question. My first time in Denver, I was
I wanted to quit. I thought I was going to
retire in Denver. That's it exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I do wonder here's a real thing. I'd love to
I'm going to research this one. When did the Giants
get to town? You know, one of the things with
oxygen you become oxygen depleted is the longer you're in altitude,
the more depleted you become. You don't adjust to it
right away. It takes you a long time to adjust.
So I i'd love to know. I actually, I know
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it feels like we've never seen that before, and I've
never seen that before, but having it happened in altitude
makes it much more reasonable, much more understandable. It just
you don't perform the same And yeah, I've heard so
many coaches over the years either try and diminish it
to their players to kind of win the mental game,
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or I've seen them do it. It's actually happened right
where they just deny it and like, nah, it's not
that big a deal. It absolutely is. University of Wyoming,
I believe, plays at the highest altitude of anybody in
the country. It's like seventy four hundred feet and when
you walk out on the floor, there's a sign that says,
(11:19):
you know, yeah, like performing you know, physical activities is
dangerous to your health or whatever. Contact a physician. The
point is that the altitude is a massive master factor.
I'm glad they carry brought that up. The zaniness of it.
I just think my question becomes, how long does that
sit with you when you're the Giants, Like when you
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have you're like, we're gonna win this game, and you
take the energy that they had from beating the Eagles
the week before, and then you go and you're essentially
feeling like you're going to beat a really good playoff
team from last year in the Denver Broncos, and now
all of a sudden, you suffer this colossal once in
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a lifetime, you know, once in your football lifetime collapse.
How how long does it take you to recover from that?
And I don't know the answer to it, but it
does seem like it'll be something that'll take a minute.
Here's Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Dallas offensively has been phenomenal, like really really day.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Scott's been great.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Oh yeah, pretty much. I think they had one game,
one down game, like the first game that that CD
Lamb was out, I think they had like maybe they're
they're off game, but they've been pretty impressive from from
from the jump, Like, okay, they look pretty good on offense.
I see what they can do. So give Seanhaimer a
ton of credit for that. Man. They they look explosive.
Dak Prescott looks really good. If they're if their defense
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can catch up and be as as good as their
offense is, this could turn into a pretty scary team
for other guys out there, other opponents out there. But
Brian Schottenheimer has this this offense cooking.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I will tell you this about the Cowboys. They look
well coached. I think, you know, defensively, when you have
three different systems in three different years, it's going to
be jumbled. And we do on some level have to
give credit to Jerry Jones because his entire logic behind
Briton Scheidt Brian Schottenheimer being hired was for Dak Prescott.
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He believed in Shottenheimer when when no one else did.
I'm not gonna say I didn't. I just I know
enough about it. I said at the time, I thought
it made sense in terms of having having continuity. Continuity
is so so huge, and the more systems and burbage
and something you throw guys, they just get confused. So
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I again, I got it. I didn't know it would
look this good all things considered, right, that's a real thing.
They're not gonna get there, I don't think as far
as the playoffs, but they're actually a super fun watch.
And Dak kind of elevating himself at least regular season wise,
to feel like he's an elite quarterback in the NFL
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is absolutely the thing I did not see coming. Didn't
see coming. Here's Dan Patrick talking about show heyo Tani.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Nobody will be able to do this again because no
pitcher leads off show Heyo Tani striking out the side.
Pictures have done that in playoff games, but then they
don't come to the plate as the leadoff batter, and
they usually come to the plate as the number nine hitter.
But you also have comparisons here. I was at the
Reds game at Riverfront Stadium in nineteen seventy one June
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of seventy one when Rick Wise threw a no hitter
and he also hit two home runs. So that's on
the list. Bob Gibson the World Series where Game seven,
I think he struck out twelve and hit a home
run in a World Series clinching win. Tony Kloninger he
hit two Grand Slams in a game as a pitcher,
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and people.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Will bring up Babe Ruth.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean, Babe Ruth pitched one game in the World
Series I think where he went fifteen innings and then
he had a base hit to win the game. So
there are moments like that, but nobody gets this opportunity
that Otani did. Is it the greatest game in baseball history?
Considering it was a clinching game playoffs, you strike out ten,
you hit three home runs? Pretty incredible, I.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Would agree, I would agree. I would say it's really
really incredible, really incredible. I always also find it funny
where people will go like, yeah, well he didn't do
anything before that game, Like, well, we do know how
averages work, right, Like that's when we go through what
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you hit in a series. Nobody says, well, you didn't
get a hit in Game one, in Game two, but
she no, that's why baseball keeps averages. And I know
he struggled last year at times in the World Series.
He wasn't great, but it's the ability when he's right
physically as a pitcher, he's an elite pitcher and he
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has shown himself over the last he definitely lasts three
years to be as good a hitter as there is.
He's an amazing bass runner and we have not seen
that well. I agree with Dan, we won't see it again.
But it's not just a party trick. He's not. I
think what Travis Hunter is doing in the NFL is
more than norm He's gonna be above average at both.
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We're talking about this guy being elite at both. And
the only question for pitching is Kenny stay healthy. That's
what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Hey, Doug. This is gonna pain me because I really
enjoy this guy, I know him personally, and it's gonna
be It's gonna suck. Bill Platsky has been writing a
column for The La Times. I looked it up nineteen
ninety six, which parallels my career that long. I have
been doing the talk space since nineteen ninety six. He
has been writing a column for the time since nineteen
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ninety six. He committed what I would call a columnist
malpractice cool after Game three of the NLCS, the headline
the Dodgers are going to be the best postseason team ever.
I cannot imagine a columnist in Philly or Boston or
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New York writing that column at that time. I think
you owe it to your readers, which are the Dodger
fan base, and you owe it to the team you're
covering to not jinx the fucking living shit out of
your team. Write this column afterwards, tell us why it
was the greatest postseason of all time. After the postseason,
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but this was cringey. I don't know what's going on
with Bill, but columnists malpractice to jinx the team you're
following and covering for your fan base. I want to
draw your attention to a scene in the movie Bull Durham,
my favorite sports movie of all time. H crash Davis
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is giving advice to nuke LaRouche, and then crash Davis
asked him about his romantic fling with Annie, who played
by Susan Sarandon, and it goes like this, she's.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Getting pretty steemed actually because I'm still retailing in my
sexual energewm, figuring I'm just gonna cave in and sleep
with her, you know, to calm her down.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Are you out of your mind? Are you out of
your mind talking about one thing you give in now
you might start losing.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Never fuck with a winning street.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So, especially in baseball, superstition is a kind of built
into the sport, into the game. Bill Poshki should know that,
and to quote Crash Davis.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Never fuck with a winning street. Yeah. Here, here's how
where I'm gonna agree with you on this one. Jay. So,
I was walking in the streets of New York with
my son and we come up on a on a pole.
We like, you know, Jay walked across the street like
everybody does, and we kind of kind of a quick
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turn in anyway. He was about to We're about to
split a pole. I was like, hey, don't split a pole,
and he didn't. And he said, do you believe in superstitions?
And I go no. But I'm also not going to
say like, fuck you right when I know I'm breaking
a superstition. And so do I think that Bill Plashki
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writing a column means anything for the Blue Jays or
the Mariners when they come to play the Dodgers. No,
do I think that it affects the outcome of the game.
I don't. But I still wouldn't do it. You know why,
because I don't want to mess with the guy. I don't.
I don't want to thumb my nose in the face
of karma or streaks or whatever you want to call it.
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So I agree with you. I don't know if it's
it's a weird column to write. I do think it's
you know, I do think it's a little bit of malpractice,
just because they still have the World Series and nothing
matters until the World Series is done. So it's an
odd one for Bill. I too, Like Bill, He's We've
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had several of these in the last couple of years
with your head scratchers, and this is among them. Who
else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, just to give you the listeners an example. So
in August of twenty seventeen, all Dodger fans remember this.
I was working on local radio at the time. Sports Illustrated.
After the Dodgers had had a ridiculous July and August,
Sports Illustrated put out a magazine, which is this thing
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that people used to go down the news stands and
look at physically, a magazine with a cover that read
Dodgers might be the greatest team of all time. The
Dodgers proceeded to lose twelve of their next fourteen games,
and they were beat in the World Series by the
Astros that cheated at home. These are the kind of
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jinxes that no fan base ever wants to read. So
keep this shit out of your mouth or out of
your typewriter, whatever you're using to communicate to readers. So
Cam Newton said this on Friday, and it just got
completely whitewashed by the rest of the weekend. But I'm
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sure it'll come up when things slow down this week.
Cam Newton said this on First Take about athletes and
what their motivations are.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Would you rather be in a spot where you can
individually achieve, have success, have statistics and lose or would
you want to be someone that contributes to a team
that can win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
And I'm glad you asked that. When you're talking about
individual play. This is how I this is how I
take care of my family. Team success don't take care
of my family. So if I'm thinking about it from
a personal standpoint.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of course, we want the best of both worlds.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
But if you're asking me, what gives you.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Extensions, what gives you top tier money, what gives you
certain things, there are some more players that have rings,
championships and things that are struggling rather than solo quote
unquote bus that has had.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Money and they're doing right by their money.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So this came out.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's a complete bullshit statement. But Cam Newton's a clown, dude,
Why are we even fucking around with it? Cam Newton's
a fucking clown. He went to Auburn because they paid
him the most money. Everybody knows they're paid his dad
the most money. And then despite his success in the NFL,
you know everyone knows the balls on the field against
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to Turf, against the Carolina with Caroline Panthers, against Denver Broncos,
they were thoroughly dominated by the Broncos defense. He wouldn't
dive on the ball. Why because he worried about his legs.
He's not a winner. He's a great athlete, super talented.
Don't want him on my team, don't want him anywhere
near my team. He's a fucking loser that all he
cares about is himself. And by the way, it's completely misguided.
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The guys who are the most successful post career are
the guys who have the most championships. The only reason
he's on TV is because he bitched about it on
his fucking stupid podcast. That's why he wasn't. No one
wanted him on TV. This is why because this is
who he is. This is what everybody thinks of him as.
This is the culture changer that he was. He's not
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the culture changer. If that's the culture, then nobody actually
respects it. In sports, Cam Newton's only on TV not
because of his success as a Heisman Trophy winner or
a national champion, not because of his success in getting
the Caroline Panthers Super Bowl. He was he wasn't blackballd.
He's he No one thinks of him as a winner.
He's super weird. He talks about shit that doesn't make sense,
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you know, and and oh yeah, by the way, he's
not an accurate representation of what you want in your quarterback.
Nobody misses him again. I you know, he didn't even
realize he sucked when he was with the fucking Patriots
and he threw for they won three games, throw him
for less than one hundred yards, and he thinks he
got like black ball out of the NFL. He didn't
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get black ball. He just wasn't any good anymore because
he hurt his shoulder. So, I mean, dude, that's honestly
one of the worst cuts I could ever play. I
put food on my table. Shut the fuck up. I
put food to my table because I because of my
personal stats. No you don't. It's because you won a
national championship at Auburn, You dip shit. God, there's lots
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of busts. There's lots of successful people, fucking name them. God,
you sound like the dumbest motherfucker I've ever heard. What else?
Speaker 10 (25:32):
You?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
What?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Fuck it? That's annoying. It's annoying that Cam Newton is
only on TV because he complained because, oh, they don't
want to hire me because I'm a black man. They
won't hire me on TV. We all remember it happened
early this year. That's why you got the job. First
take and you only got it because shitnon charp fucked
up right, he wears these hats he's got out like whatever.
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Dude is an odd fucking duck. He was crazy talented. Okay,
here's how stupid Cam Newton is. He doesn't even realize
the only reason that he's on TV really is because
he want to ask championship Auber. That's it. Because he
actually won, and the only reason he won a Heisman
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is because he wanted to ask the championship and when
he had the moment. He had one moment in the
Super Bowl in which he could have said, you know what,
fuck it. I'm like he actually said, remember, you know,
this is the great thing about working in the media
for almost twenty five years. I remember all this shit.
He got done with the Super Bowl. They asked him
why he didn't jump on the ball, and he's like, man,
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I gotta protect my legs. What it's the fucking Super Bowl,
fucking balls on the field, Go get it. Nope, don't
want to. Then he didn't want to answer questions about it.
Then they go back to Carolina additional questions and he
was even worse about it, Like, dude butchered the biggest
moment of his life. And then when you finally get
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an opportunity to be on TV only because you begged
for it, which is like, look, dude, I would beg
to be on TV. Matter of fact, I did when
I ever got onto TV when I was, but I
wasn't a Heisman Trophy when I wasn't the number one
pick in the draft, wasn't an MVP of the NFL.
Non't he remembers that shit, They'll remember they won NAT
champishit won a Heisman Trophy. You're so fucking misgiving. You
have no idea about how the world works. That's amazing,
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that's fucking annoying.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So a week ago, Aaron Glenn made this segment. Then
he made the segment two days later. Uh, then we
did it on the air. So the Aaron Glenn to
me is a gift that keeps on giving. Content wise,
they got thoroughly embarrassed yesterday. And remember, I want to
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remind listeners of how Aaron Glenn opened his opening press
conference back in February.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
Players, that's here. Now, put your seat belt zone and
get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelt zone and
get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to
be some challenges, but with challenges because the opportunity gets opportunity.
But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New
York Jets, so we're built.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
For this shit.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Okay. So the one thing that really sticks out there
and that people loved about it is all the swagger,
all that confidence. Like that that is a man who
is just talking the talk. And then this exchange happens
last Sunday after Justin Field has had one of the
worst games a quarterback has ever had. I think justice
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knocking this team.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, you going to be your quarterback next week?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Or come on, man, what kind of question is that
now your game?
Speaker 11 (28:38):
There's a number of guys that you know, I mean
sometimes this league is like this and there are guys
that have bad games.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That doesn't mean you just bnch them.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
Come on, you know better than that?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Again, swagger, defiance. This guy is not going to be
broken after the game yesterday were the Jets loss, and
then he showed up to the facility today. I want
you to kind of uh, I want you to realize
the tone that he takes with this after getting hammered
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for a week by the second market size or the
biggest market size in our country, hammered for the way
he handled the questions last week. Here a change in
tone this week.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
Well, that's something that you know, I want to continue
to look at again as early on Monday, you know.
So I'll say it this yesterday that there's a lot
of thought that goes into that for me personally, and
then being able to gel with the staff, and then
just being to ask other coaches that have been in
the situation how they handle that. So I'm not running
away from the question at all.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Rich.
Speaker 11 (29:41):
The thing is, I want to make sure that I
make the right decision, and I don't want to make
rad decisions either.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So now he's polite, he's noncommittal, he's more cliched, Doug,
I don't know what producer you want, but every day
when you say what's the lead? What if one day
I was just like, you know what, I'm just going
to take a pull of all the other producers I know, uh,
and we'll get back to you guys, I you know,
or do you want somebody who's got an answer quick
(30:07):
and ready?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I want quick and ready, I want prepared. I just look,
I understand that here's how it'll go. Okay, if he
gets fired, he'll you know, people who would defend him
will say, well that the media tried to to gotcha.
He made a lot of these fights, he said a
(30:32):
lot of these things. So again, I I just it's
a little bit of false bravado and I get it.
The guy who he had great success with is Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell said some things which are a bit odd,
but Dan Campbell just has this ability to generate energy
in a room that I don't know if he has so. Uh.
(30:57):
And it's not like either is more articulate than the
other either, as bet, It's just there's just a feeling
you get where one is sort of like Dan Campbell's
sort of a WWE kind of character, but he's a
likable one. Oras I don't know, Aaron doesn't feel as likable.
(31:17):
It feels, like you said, more defiant than motivational.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So last week I said, I don't know if it's
in like an Urban Meyer situation or a Nathaniel Hackett
or whatever. I don't think it's going to end before
the end of the year, but it's definitely going to
end afterwards. Yeah, and you said you think he's going
to last and do a second year. Are you a
week later. Are you less confident in that prediction?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah I do. And you know, look,
if he's going to go down the Justin Fields you
know ship, just no, I mean, like just look around.
You know, as much as no one thinks Russell Wilson
can play anymore, Pittsburgh thought he was better than Justin Fields, right,
(32:06):
Chicago could have kept him even though you know, and
they obviously drafted Kayleb Williams Like, nope, you're going down
on a sinking ship and you're defiant about it, and yeah,
I just look, I've you know, first years are really
really hard, really hard, and it does feel like the
(32:26):
world is out against you, and I get it, like
you start having guys go down, guys aren't as good
as you thought. But those are the times in which
you have to con you have to have a way
that you keep everyone or as many the guys that
are playing are still completely bought in on ultimately playing
for each other and playing to give give it all
(32:49):
they have, even if everyone knows they're not going to
the playoffs. But he spirals into a higher level of defiance,
and I, yeah, I'm less confident that it goes to
season two. Aaron, you don't want it. If you don't
win a game, you're not You're not keeping your.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Job, Aaron, Glenn cam Newton, Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Cam Newton's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
All right, So this got a lot of play yesterday.
This was on live TV. I think it's cute that
Tommy Romo feels the need to apologize, uh for a
fuck bomb being on national TV. I did hear afterwards
Pat Mahomes taking a lot of credit for the acting job.
The setup is this, Uh, they go to the line,
(33:39):
they start doing the uh. I don't know what do
you call that mock count or whatever count you try
to draw off sides. Pat Mahomes throws his hands up
and says what he says, you're about to hear, and
then they call a play and they get the first down. Yeah,
he took a lot of credit for the acting on this,
and he said he's gotten a lot of reps with
the State Farm commercial. I'm a movie snob and I'm
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very I'm very like I guess you would say critical
of acting. This is not great acting. This is not
great acting. But go ahead, trying to draw them off.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
So never worked. Man, Sorry, my home says coach.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
It doesn't.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
Yeah, they got Yeah, you would give it up on
that one.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You thought for sure as a draw it did you.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm gonna tell you what what didn't work for you?
You want to know it is? What What didn't work
for you was how cheesy jim Nantz was with it.
I'm telling you because I actually thought it was really good.
That's that. That's a I haven't have you seen that before?
Have you heard that before?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I have not, No, no, that it's never been done.
According to Twitter.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't know it's ever. Yeah, I don't take to it.
But I think the part that made it less quality
acting was it felt like Nance was either in on
it or he tried to play it off as such.
And oh he had you on that one. I thought that.
I think that's the part that didn't sit well with you.
Why can we play it for you? Because we can.
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the bonus Fox Sports Radio.
I heart radio app Welcome in. It's a Monday. Which
is what I don't want to do is I don't
want to diminish our weekend radio friends, our weekend radio shows.
(00:29):
At Fox Sports Radio. Dan Byer works with us. He
hosts a show with Carry Rhodes every Sunday, and he
does a great job of it. You know, we have
Rich Ormberger on. He co hosts the show every Saturday morning.
So I'm not diminishing Saturday and Sunday radio. Saturday and
Sunday radio is just generally different. Right. It's a lot
like in news, when you have bad news, they call
(00:50):
it news dump Friday and holiday weekend, especially if you
have a bad story, you dump it after four o'clock
so the press can't run. They still run with it,
but people are less inclined to pay attention to news
stories on a Saturday and a Sunday. By the time
you get to Monday, there's there's something else in the
news cycle. I bring that up because the Shoheo Tani
(01:11):
on Friday night had what many people consider the greatest
single postseason baseball performance of all time. I'm not gonna
sit here and judge it. I'm just not I don't
have the historic knowledge, but I can tell you that,
you know, it's like, if we're going back to compareing
to Bait Ruth, then it's pretty amazing. He strikes out
(01:34):
ten in just six innings of work, and oh yeah,
by the way, he hit three home runs, including one
out of the stadium into the pavilion, and the Dodgers
win close out the series. And it's just Jason, it's
just super unique that it happened on a Friday night.
(01:56):
It also happened in baseball, all right. Baseball is not
king like it used to be. But it happened on
a Friday night. Then we had an incredible Saturday, then
we had a really good Sunday. And so for many
shows it's gone into the ether where I still want
to talk about it, but it does seem like the
fact that it happened on a Friday night kind of
diminishes it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't get that. I'm not
sure I relate to that well.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, think about how much are people talking about
it today.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I've heard a lot of it. I've actually heard a
lot of it. I think that certain things, I think
transcend that kind of weekend delay. I've heard a lot
of it today. Dan had something this morning, Colin has
something rich eyes on across the street. People are talking
about it because it was such an anomaly. We just
(02:48):
don't see these kinds of performances in sports. Everyone has
to have an opinion of it, and to be honest,
like the greatest performance of all time, I would say,
by now, that's kind of an old topic. By now.
Now it's just more of kind of a reflection and
(03:08):
what happens moving forward with the Dodgers, what team would
they rather play tonight? But as far as the actual moment,
I don't think you can make a convincing argument to
me that any other individual's performance is better. And I've
heard a lot of people go through the weeds and
(03:30):
dig deep and come up with some really crazy performances
that you've never heard about, And I think that's that
speaks for itself. You're bringing something to the table that
I've never heard about, and I've watched and followed baseball
for the better part of fifty years. That should be
the answer to your question.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, it's yeah. I I do think the next question
is did the Dodgers have to win a World Series
to validate his greatness? I think the answer is no.
Does it help? Sure? I also don't get the pressure argument.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It's like again, I think we kind of overthink these
things in that if he can come through in a
in a close out game and a Game three of
the CS, but then all of a sudden he's he's
pull there's too much pressure from the World Series. I
don't see that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My theory is this my theory, And I said it
on the air as well, and I've been selling this
theory on my Dodgers group chat and on social media,
and so I want everyone just to believe that it's true.
When all you do is hit, here's the downside of
being a DH I remember hearing Edgar Martinez said something
(04:50):
like this once. Uh the late Dave Parker, who I
mistook for Dave Stewart last last week said this once.
When all you do is hit, it's easier to get
in your head. In other words, if you've got something
else to do in the field. There's something else to
take up your time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, that's actually a really I like.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That when he hit the pitching mound and has to
worry about nine other hitters, that alleviates the pressure of hitting.
He could fucking go up to home plate more free.
And I think that's why we saw the greatest performance
of any baseball player ever.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I like that. Uh, okay, I'll take it into consideration.
My thing would would be, I don't there's lots of
things that we underrate about him, or that the casual
may not understand. The first thing is that he's a
great pitcher. He just hasn't been healthy. Right. It's not
(05:53):
like he you know, he's been fine. It's a sideshow.
It's just to say that he pitches like no. When
he's been healthy, he's a top ten starter in the league,
maybe top fifteen start in league. He just hasn't been
healthy enough. He's had two Tommy John surgeries. Second part
about it is just how big and strong of a
(06:15):
man that he is. I know, they change the size
of the bases, which has increased the speed in the game,
but also how fast he is and how smart a
base runner. He is My argument for him is he's
the greatest player of all time, not just you know,
having the greatest performance. And I get that. We deal
(06:38):
with the sample size and baseball and playoffs and understanding
like he just had what you deem to be the
greatest playoff performance of all time, and we get caught
up in droughts and not stopping and catching our breath going. Hey,
baseball has always been about what your average is, and
the more it goes, the more his overall average will
(06:59):
go up in the playoffs because he's that good. I
don't know. I just that was as memorable a time
watching baseball as you can have. Like the dude strikes
out the side to start the game and then he
goes up and takes the takes the That's like some
little league shit who does that? Who strikes out the side,
grabs a bat, leads off, hits a.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Home run while throwing five nasty pitches while having triple digits.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes, it's it's it's obscene and like do I do
I care? Was it bab Ruth's fault that he didn't
play against black players Dominica players like No and Babe
Ruth did not have the benefits of weight training and
all the things they have. Hey, but he was not
this level of dominant as a pitcher. He was this
(07:48):
devil dominant as a hitter. He also wasn't this level
dominant on the base pass. So I I it was
an amazing night. It now the second greatest performance I've
ever seen in Dodger Stadium. Mine is still and I
know it's one swing at the bat, but I watched
again to day it is still Kirk Gibson. But the
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overall personal dominance we never see, We never will see
that level of personal dominance from one by one guy
in this level of game.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (08:34):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now every
day this time of the Doug galllib Show in the
Bonus Podcast, we'll play for your previous portion of Fox
Sports One. Fox Sports Radio Show. Here's Dan Byer and
Carry Rhodes having this reaction to the Broncos come back
win against the Giants yesterday.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I honestly feel bad for the Green Bay Packers and
they won today. The reason being is they had a
great win against the Arizona Cardinals held off Arizona, but
it just was completely overshadowed by the craziness that was
going on in Denver. Kerrie still is trying to figure
out what went on. I saw a stat the Broncos
(09:14):
became the first team in NFL history to score thirty
three or more points in the fourth quarter when scoring
zero in the first three quarters.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
M I still don't believe it happened.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I think the score operator put eight points on there,
like by mistake, Dan, that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
We had a missed extra point in the fourth quarter.
We also had one earlier in the game that I'm
sure Giants fans are kicking themselves for. We had a
pass interference and then a penalty on Sean Payton for
not happy with the pass interference. Jackson Dart scores too soon.
Let's just be real. Then the Broncos have these amazing plays.
We saw a shot of the Giants defender with the
(09:55):
oxygen on. Yeah, you said to me, that's a real fan,
that's a real thing. So the Giants defense was gas
absolutely no question. My first time in Denver, I was
I wanted to quit. I thought I was going to
retire in Denver. That's it exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I do wonder here's a real thing. I'd love to
I'm going to research this one. When did the Giants
get to town? You know, one of the things with
oxygen you become oxygen depleted is the longer you're in altitude,
the more depleted you become. You don't adjust to it
right away. It takes you a long time to adjust.
So I i'd love to know. I actually, I know
(10:35):
it feels like we've never seen that before, and I've
never seen that before, but having it happened in altitude
makes it much more reasonable, much more understandable. It just
you don't perform the same And yeah, I've heard so
many coaches over the years either try and diminish it
to their players to kind of win the mental game,
(10:58):
or I've seen them do it. It's actually happened right
where they just deny it and like, nah, it's not
that big a deal. It absolutely is. University of Wyoming,
I believe, plays at the highest altitude of anybody in
the country. It's like seventy four hundred feet and when
you walk out on the floor, there's a sign that says,
(11:19):
you know, yeah, like performing you know, physical activities is
dangerous to your health or whatever. Contact a physician. The
point is that the altitude is a massive master factor.
I'm glad they carry brought that up. The zaniness of it.
I just think my question becomes, how long does that
sit with you when you're the Giants, Like when you
(11:43):
have you're like, we're gonna win this game, and you
take the energy that they had from beating the Eagles
the week before, and then you go and you're essentially
feeling like you're going to beat a really good playoff
team from last year in the Denver Broncos, and now
all of a sudden, you suffer this colossal once in
(12:04):
a lifetime, you know, once in your football lifetime collapse.
How how long does it take you to recover from that?
And I don't know the answer to it, but it
does seem like it'll be something that'll take a minute.
Here's Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Dallas offensively has been phenomenal, like really really day.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Scott's been great.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Oh yeah, pretty much. I think they had one game,
one down game, like the first game that that CD
Lamb was out, I think they had like maybe they're
they're off game, but they've been pretty impressive from from
from the jump, Like, okay, they look pretty good on offense.
I see what they can do. So give Seanhaimer a
ton of credit for that. Man. They they look explosive.
Dak Prescott looks really good. If they're if their defense
(12:49):
can catch up and be as as good as their
offense is, this could turn into a pretty scary team
for other guys out there, other opponents out there. But
Brian Schottenheimer has this this offense cooking.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I will tell you this about the Cowboys. They look
well coached. I think, you know, defensively, when you have
three different systems in three different years, it's going to
be jumbled. And we do on some level have to
give credit to Jerry Jones because his entire logic behind
Briton Scheidt Brian Schottenheimer being hired was for Dak Prescott.
(13:31):
He believed in Shottenheimer when when no one else did.
I'm not gonna say I didn't. I just I know
enough about it. I said at the time, I thought
it made sense in terms of having having continuity. Continuity
is so so huge, and the more systems and burbage
and something you throw guys, they just get confused. So
(13:53):
I again, I got it. I didn't know it would
look this good all things considered, right, that's a real thing.
They're not gonna get there, I don't think as far
as the playoffs, but they're actually a super fun watch.
And Dak kind of elevating himself at least regular season wise,
to feel like he's an elite quarterback in the NFL
(14:15):
is absolutely the thing I did not see coming. Didn't
see coming. Here's Dan Patrick talking about show heyo Tani.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Nobody will be able to do this again because no
pitcher leads off show Heyo Tani striking out the side.
Pictures have done that in playoff games, but then they
don't come to the plate as the leadoff batter, and
they usually come to the plate as the number nine hitter.
But you also have comparisons here. I was at the
Reds game at Riverfront Stadium in nineteen seventy one June
(14:49):
of seventy one when Rick Wise threw a no hitter
and he also hit two home runs. So that's on
the list. Bob Gibson the World Series where Game seven,
I think he struck out twelve and hit a home
run in a World Series clinching win. Tony Kloninger he
hit two Grand Slams in a game as a pitcher,
(15:09):
and people.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Will bring up Babe Ruth.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean, Babe Ruth pitched one game in the World
Series I think where he went fifteen innings and then
he had a base hit to win the game. So
there are moments like that, but nobody gets this opportunity
that Otani did. Is it the greatest game in baseball history?
Considering it was a clinching game playoffs, you strike out ten,
you hit three home runs? Pretty incredible, I.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Would agree, I would agree. I would say it's really
really incredible, really incredible. I always also find it funny
where people will go like, yeah, well he didn't do
anything before that game, Like, well, we do know how
averages work, right, Like that's when we go through what
(15:56):
you hit in a series. Nobody says, well, you didn't
get a hit in Game one, in Game two, but
she no, that's why baseball keeps averages. And I know
he struggled last year at times in the World Series.
He wasn't great, but it's the ability when he's right
physically as a pitcher, he's an elite pitcher and he
(16:18):
has shown himself over the last he definitely lasts three
years to be as good a hitter as there is.
He's an amazing bass runner and we have not seen
that well. I agree with Dan, we won't see it again.
But it's not just a party trick. He's not. I
think what Travis Hunter is doing in the NFL is
more than norm He's gonna be above average at both.
(16:42):
We're talking about this guy being elite at both. And
the only question for pitching is Kenny stay healthy. That's
what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Let's find out who what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Hey, Doug. This is gonna pain me because I really
enjoy this guy, I know him personally, and it's gonna
be It's gonna suck. Bill Platsky has been writing a
column for The La Times. I looked it up nineteen
ninety six, which parallels my career that long. I have
been doing the talk space since nineteen ninety six. He
has been writing a column for the time since nineteen
(17:35):
ninety six. He committed what I would call a columnist
malpractice cool after Game three of the NLCS, the headline
the Dodgers are going to be the best postseason team ever.
I cannot imagine a columnist in Philly or Boston or
(17:57):
New York writing that column at that time. I think
you owe it to your readers, which are the Dodger
fan base, and you owe it to the team you're
covering to not jinx the fucking living shit out of
your team. Write this column afterwards, tell us why it
was the greatest postseason of all time. After the postseason,
(18:21):
but this was cringey. I don't know what's going on
with Bill, but columnists malpractice to jinx the team you're
following and covering for your fan base. I want to
draw your attention to a scene in the movie Bull Durham,
my favorite sports movie of all time. H crash Davis
(18:42):
is giving advice to nuke LaRouche, and then crash Davis
asked him about his romantic fling with Annie, who played
by Susan Sarandon, and it goes like this, she's.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Getting pretty steemed actually because I'm still retailing in my
sexual energewm, figuring I'm just gonna cave in and sleep
with her, you know, to calm her down.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Are you out of your mind? Are you out of
your mind talking about one thing you give in now
you might start losing.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Never fuck with a winning street.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So, especially in baseball, superstition is a kind of built
into the sport, into the game. Bill Poshki should know that,
and to quote Crash Davis.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Never fuck with a winning street. Yeah. Here, here's how
where I'm gonna agree with you on this one. Jay. So,
I was walking in the streets of New York with
my son and we come up on a on a pole.
We like, you know, Jay walked across the street like
everybody does, and we kind of kind of a quick
(19:55):
turn in anyway. He was about to We're about to
split a pole. I was like, hey, don't split a pole,
and he didn't. And he said, do you believe in superstitions?
And I go no. But I'm also not going to
say like, fuck you right when I know I'm breaking
a superstition. And so do I think that Bill Plashki
(20:16):
writing a column means anything for the Blue Jays or
the Mariners when they come to play the Dodgers. No,
do I think that it affects the outcome of the game.
I don't. But I still wouldn't do it. You know why,
because I don't want to mess with the guy. I don't.
I don't want to thumb my nose in the face
of karma or streaks or whatever you want to call it.
(20:39):
So I agree with you. I don't know if it's
it's a weird column to write. I do think it's
you know, I do think it's a little bit of malpractice,
just because they still have the World Series and nothing
matters until the World Series is done. So it's an
odd one for Bill. I too, Like Bill, He's We've
(21:00):
had several of these in the last couple of years
with your head scratchers, and this is among them. Who
else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, just to give you the listeners an example. So
in August of twenty seventeen, all Dodger fans remember this.
I was working on local radio at the time. Sports Illustrated.
After the Dodgers had had a ridiculous July and August,
Sports Illustrated put out a magazine, which is this thing
(21:27):
that people used to go down the news stands and
look at physically, a magazine with a cover that read
Dodgers might be the greatest team of all time. The
Dodgers proceeded to lose twelve of their next fourteen games,
and they were beat in the World Series by the
Astros that cheated at home. These are the kind of
(21:50):
jinxes that no fan base ever wants to read. So
keep this shit out of your mouth or out of
your typewriter, whatever you're using to communicate to readers. So
Cam Newton said this on Friday, and it just got
completely whitewashed by the rest of the weekend. But I'm
(22:10):
sure it'll come up when things slow down this week.
Cam Newton said this on First Take about athletes and
what their motivations are.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Would you rather be in a spot where you can
individually achieve, have success, have statistics and lose or would
you want to be someone that contributes to a team
that can win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
And I'm glad you asked that. When you're talking about
individual play. This is how I this is how I
take care of my family. Team success don't take care
of my family. So if I'm thinking about it from
a personal standpoint.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of course, we want the best of both worlds.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
But if you're asking me, what gives you.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Extensions, what gives you top tier money, what gives you
certain things, there are some more players that have rings,
championships and things that are struggling rather than solo quote
unquote bus that has had.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Money and they're doing right by their money.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So this came out.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's a complete bullshit statement. But Cam Newton's a clown, dude,
Why are we even fucking around with it? Cam Newton's
a fucking clown. He went to Auburn because they paid
him the most money. Everybody knows they're paid his dad
the most money. And then despite his success in the NFL,
you know everyone knows the balls on the field against
(23:32):
to Turf, against the Carolina with Caroline Panthers, against Denver Broncos,
they were thoroughly dominated by the Broncos defense. He wouldn't
dive on the ball. Why because he worried about his legs.
He's not a winner. He's a great athlete, super talented.
Don't want him on my team, don't want him anywhere
near my team. He's a fucking loser that all he
cares about is himself. And by the way, it's completely misguided.
(23:56):
The guys who are the most successful post career are
the guys who have the most championships. The only reason
he's on TV is because he bitched about it on
his fucking stupid podcast. That's why he wasn't. No one
wanted him on TV. This is why because this is
who he is. This is what everybody thinks of him as.
This is the culture changer that he was. He's not
(24:17):
the culture changer. If that's the culture, then nobody actually
respects it. In sports, Cam Newton's only on TV not
because of his success as a Heisman Trophy winner or
a national champion, not because of his success in getting
the Caroline Panthers Super Bowl. He was he wasn't blackballd.
He's he No one thinks of him as a winner.
He's super weird. He talks about shit that doesn't make sense,
(24:40):
you know, and and oh yeah, by the way, he's
not an accurate representation of what you want in your quarterback.
Nobody misses him again. I you know, he didn't even
realize he sucked when he was with the fucking Patriots
and he threw for they won three games, throw him
for less than one hundred yards, and he thinks he
got like black ball out of the NFL. He didn't
(25:01):
get black ball. He just wasn't any good anymore because
he hurt his shoulder. So, I mean, dude, that's honestly
one of the worst cuts I could ever play. I
put food on my table. Shut the fuck up. I
put food to my table because I because of my
personal stats. No you don't. It's because you won a
national championship at Auburn, You dip shit. God, there's lots
(25:24):
of busts. There's lots of successful people, fucking name them. God,
you sound like the dumbest motherfucker I've ever heard. What else?
Speaker 10 (25:32):
You?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
What?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Fuck it? That's annoying. It's annoying that Cam Newton is
only on TV because he complained because, oh, they don't
want to hire me because I'm a black man. They
won't hire me on TV. We all remember it happened
early this year. That's why you got the job. First
take and you only got it because shitnon charp fucked
up right, he wears these hats he's got out like whatever.
(25:52):
Dude is an odd fucking duck. He was crazy talented. Okay,
here's how stupid Cam Newton is. He doesn't even realize
the only reason that he's on TV really is because
he want to ask championship Auber. That's it. Because he
actually won, and the only reason he won a Heisman
(26:13):
is because he wanted to ask the championship and when
he had the moment. He had one moment in the
Super Bowl in which he could have said, you know what,
fuck it. I'm like he actually said, remember, you know,
this is the great thing about working in the media
for almost twenty five years. I remember all this shit.
He got done with the Super Bowl. They asked him
why he didn't jump on the ball, and he's like, man,
(26:33):
I gotta protect my legs. What it's the fucking Super Bowl,
fucking balls on the field, Go get it. Nope, don't
want to. Then he didn't want to answer questions about it.
Then they go back to Carolina additional questions and he
was even worse about it, Like, dude butchered the biggest
moment of his life. And then when you finally get
(26:54):
an opportunity to be on TV only because you begged
for it, which is like, look, dude, I would beg
to be on TV. Matter of fact, I did when
I ever got onto TV when I was, but I
wasn't a Heisman Trophy when I wasn't the number one
pick in the draft, wasn't an MVP of the NFL.
Non't he remembers that shit, They'll remember they won NAT
champishit won a Heisman Trophy. You're so fucking misgiving. You
have no idea about how the world works. That's amazing,
(27:17):
that's fucking annoying.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So a week ago, Aaron Glenn made this segment. Then
he made the segment two days later. Uh, then we
did it on the air. So the Aaron Glenn to
me is a gift that keeps on giving. Content wise,
they got thoroughly embarrassed yesterday. And remember, I want to
(27:41):
remind listeners of how Aaron Glenn opened his opening press
conference back in February.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
Players, that's here. Now, put your seat belt zone and
get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelt zone and
get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to
be some challenges, but with challenges because the opportunity gets opportunity.
But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New
York Jets, so we're built.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
For this shit.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Okay. So the one thing that really sticks out there
and that people loved about it is all the swagger,
all that confidence. Like that that is a man who
is just talking the talk. And then this exchange happens
last Sunday after Justin Field has had one of the
worst games a quarterback has ever had. I think justice
(28:29):
knocking this team.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, you going to be your quarterback next week?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Or come on, man, what kind of question is that
now your game?
Speaker 11 (28:38):
There's a number of guys that you know, I mean
sometimes this league is like this and there are guys
that have bad games.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That doesn't mean you just bnch them.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
Come on, you know better than that?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Again, swagger, defiance. This guy is not going to be
broken after the game yesterday were the Jets loss, and
then he showed up to the facility today. I want
you to kind of uh, I want you to realize
the tone that he takes with this after getting hammered
(29:08):
for a week by the second market size or the
biggest market size in our country, hammered for the way
he handled the questions last week. Here a change in
tone this week.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
Well, that's something that you know, I want to continue
to look at again as early on Monday, you know.
So I'll say it this yesterday that there's a lot
of thought that goes into that for me personally, and
then being able to gel with the staff, and then
just being to ask other coaches that have been in
the situation how they handle that. So I'm not running
away from the question at all.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Rich.
Speaker 11 (29:41):
The thing is, I want to make sure that I
make the right decision, and I don't want to make
rad decisions either.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So now he's polite, he's noncommittal, he's more cliched, Doug,
I don't know what producer you want, but every day
when you say what's the lead? What if one day
I was just like, you know what, I'm just going
to take a pull of all the other producers I know, uh,
and we'll get back to you guys, I you know,
or do you want somebody who's got an answer quick
(30:07):
and ready?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I want quick and ready, I want prepared. I just look,
I understand that here's how it'll go. Okay, if he
gets fired, he'll you know, people who would defend him
will say, well that the media tried to to gotcha.
He made a lot of these fights, he said a
(30:32):
lot of these things. So again, I I just it's
a little bit of false bravado and I get it.
The guy who he had great success with is Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell said some things which are a bit odd,
but Dan Campbell just has this ability to generate energy
in a room that I don't know if he has so. Uh.
(30:57):
And it's not like either is more articulate than the
other either, as bet, It's just there's just a feeling
you get where one is sort of like Dan Campbell's
sort of a WWE kind of character, but he's a
likable one. Oras I don't know, Aaron doesn't feel as likable.
(31:17):
It feels, like you said, more defiant than motivational.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So last week I said, I don't know if it's
in like an Urban Meyer situation or a Nathaniel Hackett
or whatever. I don't think it's going to end before
the end of the year, but it's definitely going to
end afterwards. Yeah, and you said you think he's going
to last and do a second year. Are you a
week later. Are you less confident in that prediction?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah I do. And you know, look,
if he's going to go down the Justin Fields you
know ship, just no, I mean, like just look around.
You know, as much as no one thinks Russell Wilson
can play anymore, Pittsburgh thought he was better than Justin Fields, right,
(32:06):
Chicago could have kept him even though you know, and
they obviously drafted Kayleb Williams Like, nope, you're going down
on a sinking ship and you're defiant about it, and yeah,
I just look, I've you know, first years are really
really hard, really hard, and it does feel like the
(32:26):
world is out against you, and I get it, like
you start having guys go down, guys aren't as good
as you thought. But those are the times in which
you have to con you have to have a way
that you keep everyone or as many the guys that
are playing are still completely bought in on ultimately playing
for each other and playing to give give it all
(32:49):
they have, even if everyone knows they're not going to
the playoffs. But he spirals into a higher level of defiance,
and I, yeah, I'm less confident that it goes to
season two. Aaron, you don't want it. If you don't
win a game, you're not You're not keeping your.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Job, Aaron, Glenn cam Newton, Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Cam Newton's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
All right, So this got a lot of play yesterday.
This was on live TV. I think it's cute that
Tommy Romo feels the need to apologize, uh for a
fuck bomb being on national TV. I did hear afterwards
Pat Mahomes taking a lot of credit for the acting job.
The setup is this, Uh, they go to the line,
(33:39):
they start doing the uh. I don't know what do
you call that mock count or whatever count you try
to draw off sides. Pat Mahomes throws his hands up
and says what he says, you're about to hear, and
then they call a play and they get the first down. Yeah,
he took a lot of credit for the acting on this,
and he said he's gotten a lot of reps with
the State Farm commercial. I'm a movie snob and I'm
(34:04):
very I'm very like I guess you would say critical
of acting. This is not great acting. This is not
great acting. But go ahead, trying to draw them off.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
So never worked. Man, Sorry, my home says coach.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
It doesn't.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
Yeah, they got Yeah, you would give it up on
that one.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
You thought for sure as a draw it did you.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm gonna tell you what what didn't work for you?
You want to know it is? What What didn't work
for you was how cheesy jim Nantz was with it.
I'm telling you because I actually thought it was really good.
That's that. That's a I haven't have you seen that before?
Have you heard that before?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I have not, No, no, that it's never been done.
According to Twitter.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't know it's ever. Yeah, I don't take to it.
But I think the part that made it less quality
acting was it felt like Nance was either in on
it or he tried to play it off as such.
And oh he had you on that one. I thought that.
I think that's the part that didn't sit well with you.
Why can we play it for you? Because we can.
(35:12):
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