October 21, 2025 • 27 mins
Doug riffs about the start of the NBA season. Doug reacts to Rob Parker's take on Brian Daboll. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Brian Schneider makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Heres in the Bonus with Doug gottl.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app.
Welcome in. I hope you're doing great, having a great day.
We have a World Series set. It's Los Angeles versus
Canada and Jay there is something I want to get
to in terms of lead topic, but I do want
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to start just you're kind of a resident Dodger guy.
I have I have something and we will talk about
this in the pod a little bit later. But it's
just a it's just a thought. Okay. Anybody who's a
Dodger fan is right now thinking, Oh, we're gonna be rusty.
We're gonna be rusty. Right. They just got done playing
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at the games. The first game is not till Friday.
This is Friday, Saturday Night. I actually think that Toronto
winning sort of helps the Dodgers, And let me explain why. First.
If you think winning on the road is impossible for
these guys last year, look back at when they're playing
the Padres and what they're able to do or how
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well they played when they played Milwaukee in just this
previous series. I don't buy that, but I would also
tell you that they're really good at Dodger Stadium. And
if they're rusty in game one and they lose Game
one and they have home field advantage, well now all
of a sudden, they got to win on the road.
Whereas if you're rusty in game one and you lose
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in Toronto, well don't worry about it. All you gotta
do is win one game on the road and you
get home field advantage. Does it make sense? Do you
like that argument?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'll listen to it. I don't hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you think the rest thing is a real thing?
Like is does it really affect Oh? Yeah, team's momentum?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah? I think that it impacted them the last couple
of years. Okay, so if you go before twenty twenty four,
they were a team that was coming off a bye,
and I always thought they started slow. They were when
you know, you have a team that played in the
wildcard round and it's got some momentum and they faced
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the team that got the buy. I thought there was
a slow start there. Now the bou Jays have a
break too, so maybe that factors in. If you asked
me twenty four hours ago, I would have said that
I think I want the Mariners because we had just
swept them to finish the regular season. We have all
the scouting report and we would start started at home.
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But I think most Dodger fans on my Dodger group
chat anyways, are saying it doesn't matter who it is,
that we are playing so well right now and we
have so much more talent than either of the American
League teams that we should win like comfortably. I just
never share that. I never share that comfort So I'm
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gonna look for reasons why they're gonna lose until they win.
The anti Bill Platchki approach.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's so funny because if it was any other city
and any other writer, I wouldn't know who he was. Platski,
I know very very well. All Right, we'll circle back
to that discussion later on in the pod. Of course,
you heard some of it on the radio show. Tonight
is the NBA's opening night, and you have the defending champions,
the Okaoma City Thunder taking on the Houston Rockets at
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home fall by the Golden State Warriors against the LA Lakers.
Should be noted that obviously le Bron's not gonna play,
but you will have Steph Curry. And I think there's
two things kind of at work here that work against
the NBA because the NBA is sort of wide open.
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I think that Oklahoma City should absolutely be the favorite,
and I'll go into in a moment why, But the
reality is outside of Oklahoma City being the favorite, everything's
kind of wide open because everybody has a couple of
guys that are stars, maybe in different parts of their
their star bell curve, if you will. But everybody's got dudes,
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and you know, like go through the West, nobody's perfect,
you know, if you if you love Minnesota, you love them,
But are they really better than Oklahoma City?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I like Dallas. I like Dallas in many ways better
than La. But boy La does have Luca and he
he's carried other rosters, you know, Dallas roster to the finals.
Golden State still seems they still seem old and they
don't look like they fixed their kind of issues. But
they're good enough to win a lot of games if
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they're healthy. That's like a lot of teams are like that.
The Rockets you like, but uh didn't they didn't just
lose Fred van Vliet for the year. And that's the
other factor is how many, especially in the East, players
are going to miss substantial amounts of time due to injury,
and then even when they do come back, you don't
come back from these type of catastrophic, catastrophic injuries and
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you're like the same player you were before you got
hurt right away. Eventually you may be better than you
were before, but not right away. So there's a lack
of buzz because the East has everybody has injured players,
and the West there's maybe too much similarities in good
teams and a lot of the best players or the
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guys that we know the most, are just old. And
that's like the Kevin Durant thing. I love Kevin Durant.
I've been I've been tooting his horn for years as
being way more impactful, way better, way higher up on
the overall food chain of the NBA than other people.
But like he's playing his old team in Oklahoma City.
That would be a big thing if he'd only been
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to one or two other teams. Remember, Kevin Durant played
in one two championships with the Warriors, then he went
to Brooklyn, then he went to Phoenix. Now he's with
the Houston Rockets, like this is his fifth team and
he's still very, very good, but he's not what he
was before the Achilles and before he was deep into
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his thirties. So I think you have the age of
so many of these age and injury history of so
many of these stars. And also there is a level
of fatigue. Even if we're drawn to the TV by
by their names, sometimes we're turned off by the fact
that it's just the same guy. I've been watching that
same guy for fifteen years. I don't know. I'm not
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sure what it is with the NBA, but I feel
like there's a substantial lack of buzz in Opening Night.
Maybe it's because Oklahoma City is the champion and the favorite,
and they're not seen as sexy, and they're not in
a big market, and they're sort of young and not
necessarily overall established the way that other players, even though
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they're less accomplished, have been the NBA.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
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Speaker 3 (07:13):
Let's Let's get to the Foxes and Now every day
of this time of Doug Gotleib show in the Bonus
podcast we play for your previous portion of Fox Sports
Radier Fox Sports one show. We call it what does
the Fox Say. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Blue
Jays All Star George Springer's heroics late last night.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
It was a reminder night for George Springer because you go,
I'm not trying to he was with the Astros. Yes,
those Astros, but his numbers, he's not a Hall of Famer,
but he's the Hall of I want that guy on
my team, especially in the postseason. He has played seventy
eight games and he has twenty three home runs, so
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he's third, tied for third I think on the all
time postseason home run list. Now, granted more postseason games,
Mickey Mantle and some of those players played in far
less playoff games because there were less matchups. They didn't
have you know, NLCS, ALCS, the divisional series, they didn't
have a wild card. Four time All Star, he was
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an MVP of the World Series in twenty seventeen. You
still have the astros cheated stench that still permeates with
all these players, not as much, you know, it'll be
in his bio, but really I think it's you know,
kind of focuses or centers on al Tuve.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they're forever going to be stayed
by it. But he hit a huge home run. He's
a tremendous player. George S. Fringer's a tremendous player. I
don't know, like if we're we're I do feel like
we're reaching right now on connecting the old Astros to it.
I just thought, and we talked about this, We talked
about the pod, talk about the radio. Which is I
just thought last night was I texted the guys baseball,
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Like in baseball, it's crazy on how every rally seems
the same walk the first hitter right and then which
is what happened in that editing where you give up
a walk and all of a sudden, now it's and
it's the he's in the back end of the order
and not at the top of that order. Toronto's spent
a bunch of money on guys that haven't been great,
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and some of the guys they didn't spend a bunch
of money on it have been great. But you know,
like if we try and make it about the Astros,
I do think we're reaching a little bit. I don't
have a great taste in my mouth about that, about
the astros cheating and sign stealing, But I don't think
it's actually as bad as steroids. I don't know it's
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people in Major League Baseball know that they took it
to a completely different level than it should have been
or as ever have been before. Should things have been
done to players immediately afterwards, absolutely absolutely, but now we're
just too far beyond it. Here's Alex Rodriguez talking about
the World Series matchup.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I think big picture, I think, you know, for the
for the casual fan out there, I don't think they
understand how balanced and how good Toronto is. I think
everyone understands the Dodger's greatness because they've been at this
level for the last ten years as a dominant franchise
in the sport with the dominant player in sha Shohil Tani.
But this is not David Verge Goliath. This is truly
Goliath verse Goliath. And don't think Toronto is a big market.
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They have forty one million people in Canada, that's their
fan base, and they watch and they watch closely. Look
the reason why I think the Blue just have a
shot is two breazons.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
One.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
This team is going to be off for six or
seven days. They haven't faced life pitching. That's always a
call something you have to be cautious for. They have
to fly cross country and they're very tough to beat.
And now they got their mojo back and they're ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of the time
off thing, Like I just I would much rather be
the rested team. You much better be the rest of team.
And Toronto's really good. Let's also not undersell how much
the Dodgers have invested financially, how good the Dodgers are,
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how the fact that they've been there before, how dominant
they were with their starting pitching, and now they're starting
pitching and their bullpen is completely rested. So and in
many ways, I think the Dodgers are in a good
space having that time off and being the road team.
These first two games tell me, if this makes sense
to you, when you haven't played, it does take you
a while, maybe takes them a little bit to get sharp.
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If they were to lose one of those first two
games at Dodgers Stadium, now they lose home field advantage,
whereas when they go to Toronto to the Rogers Center.
If you lose one of the first two games, that's
why you still got your games at home. All you
got to do is win one of those two and
now you got home field advantage. Here's Rob Parker talking
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about Brian dabol and the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Brian Daboll, pack your bags.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Your life as head coach of the New York freaking
Football Giants is over.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (12:15):
This is not the first time this year he mishandled
the game against Dallas and it cost him a game.
That's two freaking games this year by him alone. Are
you serious? Denver my ass? I don't care what bits did.
I don't care because if the Giants did what they
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were supposed to do, how do you rush three men
and let the quarterback have all day? Of course he
do for touchdowns. There was no pressure. How do you
turn a great quarterback into a mediocre one? You apply
to pressure you're rushing three Come on, Calvin, you know football.
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That's why the players walked off. You neutralize them. Oh,
but there are eight guys out there in the dB sort.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Of no nobody that much time.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Who you are, and guess what. People run themselves open.
They know where they're going. It's hard on the defense,
you know why, because they don't know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Are you kidding me? Brian Dayball?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Pack your bags?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
How many coaches has has he fired? This year?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Not two? Not three?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Four, not five?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Not six?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? Yeah that's true. Oh uh, I'm with you. I
don't agree. I don't like the prevent defense. But again,
then if you send too many numbers into the box,
then they can pick you apart. None of it matters
if a quarterback doesn't throw an interception. None of it matters.
If you're able to keep their offense off the field.
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None of that matters if you make an extra point
and you miss two of them. Rob does make good points.
Winning his heart is difficult, but overreacting when and part
of this is we talk about it with day Ball
when he made the change to Jackson Dart. Getting a
rookie quarterback putting him in does give you the benefit
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of the doubt where you're like, hey, we're young, we're
gonna learn. But their execution, especially defensively down the stretch,
was not good enough. In that part, we completely agree
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
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Speaker 3 (14:41):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Hey, Doug. Roger Goodell was on a podcast recently and
he said something very interesting about how how he spends
his Sundays.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
How many angry texts are you fielding from owners, players, coaches?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
A lot? Yeah, I would imagine there's a couple that
get a good chuckle though, because you know they're coming.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Probably, Yeah, you know they're coming.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
But I usually send a few myself. I mean when
I'm sitting at home, I can sit with my pat
and I'm writing down notes the whole time about things
I see, things I want to see, things that we
should do better. And my staff hates it because I
come in Monday morning with every play that I would
call him controversial or significant impact, and we look at
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those and we take them in and what can we
do to not change that at that point but avoid
that in the future. So I think those inputs are important.
I get them from coaches a lot, and some of
them are funny, some of them. Some of them will
piss me off too, But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's where it works.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think Roger Goodell just admitted that he knows the
product is poor. He gets weekly reminders from in house,
from other people that there are product changes needed and
they are not addressing them. I always find it funny
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at the Super Bowl when he does his kind of
State of the Union and nobody nobody asked him about
the climbing product. Because profits are up, ratings are up,
Gambling companies are making money hand over fist. Fantasy leagues
are making billions of dollars. But if you, I dare
anybody listening right now to rewatch the Seahawks game last
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night and tell me that that was a good game,
tell me that it was well played, tell me that
you don't want to forward through a lot of it.
And it's not that high scoring games are a great
product and low scoring games are not. It's the all
the officiating calls, you know. I think there's like the
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sentiment that the game is over officiated. I would argue
that it's so sloppy they have to blow the whistle,
they have to throw the flag. It's sloppy. That game
last night was utterly sloppy. The team that won was
may have been the sloppiest. It was an awful watch.
And I'm just talking about sitting on your couch. The
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eye test fails. You want to do something else, You
want to look at your phone? Is there something else
that that I could pair with this on YouTube TV
and watch the other one? And Roger Goodell just admitted
that he gets those complaints and they do nothing.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Uh yeah, yeah, it's the guy that put it in
the complaint box. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Put it
in the complaint box. You got it? What else is
annoying today?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
This is going to trigger half of the audience. And
here's my advice. Being triggered is a choice. You can
choose not to be triggered. And just before you hear
the SoundBite, I want you to be aware of this.
A lot of people feel differently about a lot of
(18:08):
things than you do. And I venture to say that
stephen A's point about Kyrie here, there has been an
increase in people that feel this way since twenty twenty one.
So allow yourself to be open minded and try to
(18:29):
fight the urge to be triggered by stephen A. Smith
on Carmelo Anthony's podcast talking about Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
You see who Kyrie Irving is. Kyrie is a good brother, man,
Kyrie's a good brother.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We used to butt heads because.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
He misworked you damn much. And I'm like, yo, man,
his brother's electrified. I want to see this brother dancing
on a basketball court. I want to hear no shit
about no COVID VAC. See you get you ch ass
on the court and you see you now obviously, in hindsight,
the brother right because we see all the conspiracy theories
that come out, and props to him for look for seeing.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
For having the first sight to see that.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
We didn't see that at the time. And then but
you also, I have to understand, I'm living in a
world where you got cats making thirty eight forty forty
five million, you got gms and owners complaining about it,
and you got billionaires looking me in the face of saying, yo,
stephen A, I took that damn vaccine. Who the hell
of that not to take the vaccine? And we're living
in a country where the government was imposing all of
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that on us.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Wait, what am I? What am I supposed to agree with?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You don't have agree with anything that What.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was he talking about when you see all these conspiracy theories,
so it makes him right. That doesn't make any sense.
I know he's getting it. Hey, it shouldn't have been
should have been imposed again, all of this is classically
reworking the reality of things. The vaccine did work. Steven
A got really really sick with COVID afterwards said without
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the vaccine, he might not be here. And now because
he's searching for some sort of for people to like him,
he's like, yeah, Kyriever's right, because there's always these conspiracy theories.
That doesn't make any sense for a guy who has
masterful control of the English language. That didn't feel like it,
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That didn't feel like it at all, didn't feel like
it at all.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Anyway, I'm going to offer up the descending opinion of
George Bringer. Last night. There was something on the Chiron
that he was the World Series MVP of twenty seventeen.
I think they wrote that on the Chiron thinking that
was like an accolade, like in the list of things
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on his career, you have like seven time All Star,
you know you have time three hundred. You know Doug
gott label choose to add your Silver Sluggers in your resume.
Twenty seventeen World Series MVP is an albatross. He was
the best cheater on the team that admitted to cheating
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to win the World Series. That shouldn't be held in
any kind of accolade. That's an albatross around his neck
that we should never forgive.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That's not bad. Yeah, I again, I I'm with you
on that World Series. I am, but I don't know
if I can do I am I supposed to hold
it against him because of his achievement last night. That's
my question for you, Jason. It's like, can you not
watch this guy at all and appreciate the home run
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he hit and have any respect for him because they
because they cheated. Going back to that Astro's World Series?
Is that where you are?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I guess if you're if you're a Yankee fan or
a Dodger fan, you are much less forgiving of this
whole thing. I think, so are you? Are you asking
did the character of a man who chose to cheat?
Does it change over the over the next eight years?
I don't think so. I think if you cheat, you're
a cheater. I don't know if you know what the
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number twenty seven on the back of Al two Vey's
jersey stands for. But he will never be forgotten as
kind of the king cheater. But like I said, I
had forgotten how great Springer was in that World Series,
and then when I saw that he was the MVP
of It'm like, wow, that's he's he was the best
cheater of a team of cheaters. So no, I I'm
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obviously less forgiving, but I support the team that was
directly impacted.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay, what else is it doing?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
That's it Springer, steven A's Kyrie take and Roger Goodell
admitting openly that he gets a lot of complaints about
the product and they don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Can I can I add? I'm gonna add something that
is annoying to me. It's it's super annoying to me,
super annoying to me on the celebratory nature of people
of coaches getting fired. It's just really really odd. And again,
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this is not me being the coach. Maybe a little
bit of it, but I don't think that's what it is.
I think it's the we've we've created this very odd
thing in college athletics. Don't get me wrong, coaches making
eleven point eight million dollars a year doesn't help some
coaches arguments, right, and that's what the Indiana coach just
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signed for. But it's like coaches are held to a
higher standard, which they should be, and yet many of
them now, not necessarily head coaches, but assistant coaches are
compensated less than the players that they coach, and the
players that they coach are not held to any sort
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of professional standards, Like you can't fire a guy mid
season if he's a player, he's a professional, he's under contract.
There's no difference between him and a player in some
people's the same people who will tell you that players
and coaches should have equal rights are the same people
who don't think that coaches a player, excuse me, should
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be cut or summarily fired in the middle of the season.
And then you factor in the you know, I saw
billion Apier got fired from Florida. It's like people are
like celebrating, Like what are you celebrating? Fire guy after
he just won a game. You can still fire him
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at the end of the year. All you're gonna do
is pay out more money than you need to and
oh yeah, by the way, like it just seems so
douchey when you're celebrating somebody's demise or that your football
program isn't as good as you want it to be.
That said, here's where I'm gonna here's here's my ruling
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on why I'm gonna take Springer and how people gloss
over the the Houston Astros cheating scandal and celebrate that
World Series as if it was on the up and up.
I hate that people do that with even with Barry
Bond's record suddenly, like sports is the one place where
you get caught cheating and they're like, Okay, we caught you,
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but we're gonna let you keep the records or keep
the y and keep the wins. Where else does that happen?
Like somebody scores a perfect score in their SAT you
found out they were cheating on it. Do they get
to say they had a purpose score on the SAT?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Will they go to like Harvard, Like no, why I
don't understand that. Do you cheat on a test, you
get catching on a test, You always get an F
on that test, except in sports. So I'm with you
in that case on how people gloss over the Astros
win the World Series and make it out like you said,
like it was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So this was actually on live over the air broadcast
last night. We forget that. We kind of forget that
because so much is on cable or streaming now or
the FCC doesn't get involved. But over the air broadcast
that for those that don't understand broadcasting, there are three
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to four networks that you have the right to view
if you can gain access with your rabbiteers and watch
the broadcast. It's free, so there are limitations on what
you could say on free broadcast, and John Schneider violated
that rule over the AIRTV last night.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
This is this is fucking unbelievable for me. This my
twenty fourth year with this organization, and I fucking love
it here.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
These fans, this country, you.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Deserve all of this.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's not about me.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
It's about every single one that's behind me, and I
couldn't be happier to represent this team.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's funny. That's funny. Why could we play it for you?
Because we can. That's it for the end of the Monus podcast.
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I'm Doug Gotlieb
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app.
Welcome in. I hope you're doing great, having a great day.
We have a World Series set. It's Los Angeles versus
Canada and Jay there is something I want to get
to in terms of lead topic, but I do want
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to start just you're kind of a resident Dodger guy.
I have I have something and we will talk about
this in the pod a little bit later. But it's
just a it's just a thought. Okay. Anybody who's a
Dodger fan is right now thinking, Oh, we're gonna be rusty.
We're gonna be rusty. Right. They just got done playing
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at the games. The first game is not till Friday.
This is Friday, Saturday Night. I actually think that Toronto
winning sort of helps the Dodgers, And let me explain why. First.
If you think winning on the road is impossible for
these guys last year, look back at when they're playing
the Padres and what they're able to do or how
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well they played when they played Milwaukee in just this
previous series. I don't buy that, but I would also
tell you that they're really good at Dodger Stadium. And
if they're rusty in game one and they lose Game
one and they have home field advantage, well now all
of a sudden, they got to win on the road.
Whereas if you're rusty in game one and you lose
(01:35):
in Toronto, well don't worry about it. All you gotta
do is win one game on the road and you
get home field advantage. Does it make sense? Do you
like that argument?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'll listen to it. I don't hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you think the rest thing is a real thing?
Like is does it really affect Oh? Yeah, team's momentum?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah? I think that it impacted them the last couple
of years. Okay, so if you go before twenty twenty four,
they were a team that was coming off a bye,
and I always thought they started slow. They were when
you know, you have a team that played in the
wildcard round and it's got some momentum and they faced
(02:15):
the team that got the buy. I thought there was
a slow start there. Now the bou Jays have a
break too, so maybe that factors in. If you asked
me twenty four hours ago, I would have said that
I think I want the Mariners because we had just
swept them to finish the regular season. We have all
the scouting report and we would start started at home.
(02:37):
But I think most Dodger fans on my Dodger group
chat anyways, are saying it doesn't matter who it is,
that we are playing so well right now and we
have so much more talent than either of the American
League teams that we should win like comfortably. I just
never share that. I never share that comfort So I'm
(03:00):
gonna look for reasons why they're gonna lose until they win.
The anti Bill Platchki approach.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's so funny because if it was any other city
and any other writer, I wouldn't know who he was. Platski,
I know very very well. All Right, we'll circle back
to that discussion later on in the pod. Of course,
you heard some of it on the radio show. Tonight
is the NBA's opening night, and you have the defending champions,
the Okaoma City Thunder taking on the Houston Rockets at
(03:34):
home fall by the Golden State Warriors against the LA Lakers.
Should be noted that obviously le Bron's not gonna play,
but you will have Steph Curry. And I think there's
two things kind of at work here that work against
the NBA because the NBA is sort of wide open.
(03:55):
I think that Oklahoma City should absolutely be the favorite,
and I'll go into in a moment why, But the
reality is outside of Oklahoma City being the favorite, everything's
kind of wide open because everybody has a couple of
guys that are stars, maybe in different parts of their
their star bell curve, if you will. But everybody's got dudes,
(04:20):
and you know, like go through the West, nobody's perfect,
you know, if you if you love Minnesota, you love them,
But are they really better than Oklahoma City?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I like Dallas. I like Dallas in many ways better
than La. But boy La does have Luca and he
he's carried other rosters, you know, Dallas roster to the finals.
Golden State still seems they still seem old and they
don't look like they fixed their kind of issues. But
they're good enough to win a lot of games if
(04:52):
they're healthy. That's like a lot of teams are like that.
The Rockets you like, but uh didn't they didn't just
lose Fred van Vliet for the year. And that's the
other factor is how many, especially in the East, players
are going to miss substantial amounts of time due to injury,
and then even when they do come back, you don't
come back from these type of catastrophic, catastrophic injuries and
(05:13):
you're like the same player you were before you got
hurt right away. Eventually you may be better than you
were before, but not right away. So there's a lack
of buzz because the East has everybody has injured players,
and the West there's maybe too much similarities in good
teams and a lot of the best players or the
(05:34):
guys that we know the most, are just old. And
that's like the Kevin Durant thing. I love Kevin Durant.
I've been I've been tooting his horn for years as
being way more impactful, way better, way higher up on
the overall food chain of the NBA than other people.
But like he's playing his old team in Oklahoma City.
That would be a big thing if he'd only been
(05:54):
to one or two other teams. Remember, Kevin Durant played
in one two championships with the Warriors, then he went
to Brooklyn, then he went to Phoenix. Now he's with
the Houston Rockets, like this is his fifth team and
he's still very, very good, but he's not what he
was before the Achilles and before he was deep into
(06:16):
his thirties. So I think you have the age of
so many of these age and injury history of so
many of these stars. And also there is a level
of fatigue. Even if we're drawn to the TV by
by their names, sometimes we're turned off by the fact
that it's just the same guy. I've been watching that
same guy for fifteen years. I don't know. I'm not
(06:39):
sure what it is with the NBA, but I feel
like there's a substantial lack of buzz in Opening Night.
Maybe it's because Oklahoma City is the champion and the favorite,
and they're not seen as sexy, and they're not in
a big market, and they're sort of young and not
necessarily overall established the way that other players, even though
(07:00):
they're less accomplished, have been the NBA.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Let's Let's get to the Foxes and Now every day
of this time of Doug Gotleib show in the Bonus
podcast we play for your previous portion of Fox Sports
Radier Fox Sports one show. We call it what does
the Fox Say. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Blue
Jays All Star George Springer's heroics late last night.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
It was a reminder night for George Springer because you go,
I'm not trying to he was with the Astros. Yes,
those Astros, but his numbers, he's not a Hall of Famer,
but he's the Hall of I want that guy on
my team, especially in the postseason. He has played seventy
eight games and he has twenty three home runs, so
(07:53):
he's third, tied for third I think on the all
time postseason home run list. Now, granted more postseason games,
Mickey Mantle and some of those players played in far
less playoff games because there were less matchups. They didn't
have you know, NLCS, ALCS, the divisional series, they didn't
have a wild card. Four time All Star, he was
(08:16):
an MVP of the World Series in twenty seventeen. You
still have the astros cheated stench that still permeates with
all these players, not as much, you know, it'll be
in his bio, but really I think it's you know,
kind of focuses or centers on al Tuve.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they're forever going to be stayed
by it. But he hit a huge home run. He's
a tremendous player. George S. Fringer's a tremendous player. I
don't know, like if we're we're I do feel like
we're reaching right now on connecting the old Astros to it.
I just thought, and we talked about this, We talked
about the pod, talk about the radio. Which is I
just thought last night was I texted the guys baseball,
(09:04):
Like in baseball, it's crazy on how every rally seems
the same walk the first hitter right and then which
is what happened in that editing where you give up
a walk and all of a sudden, now it's and
it's the he's in the back end of the order
and not at the top of that order. Toronto's spent
a bunch of money on guys that haven't been great,
(09:25):
and some of the guys they didn't spend a bunch
of money on it have been great. But you know,
like if we try and make it about the Astros,
I do think we're reaching a little bit. I don't
have a great taste in my mouth about that, about
the astros cheating and sign stealing, But I don't think
it's actually as bad as steroids. I don't know it's
(09:48):
people in Major League Baseball know that they took it
to a completely different level than it should have been
or as ever have been before. Should things have been
done to players immediately afterwards, absolutely absolutely, but now we're
just too far beyond it. Here's Alex Rodriguez talking about
the World Series matchup.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
I think big picture, I think, you know, for the
for the casual fan out there, I don't think they
understand how balanced and how good Toronto is. I think
everyone understands the Dodger's greatness because they've been at this
level for the last ten years as a dominant franchise
in the sport with the dominant player in sha Shohil Tani.
But this is not David Verge Goliath. This is truly
Goliath verse Goliath. And don't think Toronto is a big market.
(10:31):
They have forty one million people in Canada, that's their
fan base, and they watch and they watch closely. Look
the reason why I think the Blue just have a
shot is two breazons.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
One.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
This team is going to be off for six or
seven days. They haven't faced life pitching. That's always a
call something you have to be cautious for. They have
to fly cross country and they're very tough to beat.
And now they got their mojo back and they're ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I don't know what to make of the time
off thing, Like I just I would much rather be
the rested team. You much better be the rest of team.
And Toronto's really good. Let's also not undersell how much
the Dodgers have invested financially, how good the Dodgers are,
(11:19):
how the fact that they've been there before, how dominant
they were with their starting pitching, and now they're starting
pitching and their bullpen is completely rested. So and in
many ways, I think the Dodgers are in a good
space having that time off and being the road team.
These first two games tell me, if this makes sense
to you, when you haven't played, it does take you
a while, maybe takes them a little bit to get sharp.
(11:41):
If they were to lose one of those first two
games at Dodgers Stadium, now they lose home field advantage,
whereas when they go to Toronto to the Rogers Center.
If you lose one of the first two games, that's
why you still got your games at home. All you
got to do is win one of those two and
now you got home field advantage. Here's Rob Parker talking
(12:01):
about Brian dabol and the New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Brian Daboll, pack your bags.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Your life as head coach of the New York freaking
Football Giants is over.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 8 (12:15):
This is not the first time this year he mishandled
the game against Dallas and it cost him a game.
That's two freaking games this year by him alone. Are
you serious? Denver my ass? I don't care what bits did.
I don't care because if the Giants did what they
(12:37):
were supposed to do, how do you rush three men
and let the quarterback have all day? Of course he
do for touchdowns. There was no pressure. How do you
turn a great quarterback into a mediocre one? You apply
to pressure you're rushing three Come on, Calvin, you know football.
(12:57):
That's why the players walked off. You neutralize them. Oh,
but there are eight guys out there in the dB sort.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Of no nobody that much time.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Who you are, and guess what. People run themselves open.
They know where they're going. It's hard on the defense,
you know why, because they don't know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Are you kidding me? Brian Dayball?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Pack your bags?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
How many coaches has has he fired? This year?
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Not two? Not three?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Four, not five?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Not six?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah? Yeah that's true. Oh uh, I'm with you. I
don't agree. I don't like the prevent defense. But again,
then if you send too many numbers into the box,
then they can pick you apart. None of it matters
if a quarterback doesn't throw an interception. None of it matters.
If you're able to keep their offense off the field.
(13:56):
None of that matters if you make an extra point
and you miss two of them. Rob does make good points.
Winning his heart is difficult, but overreacting when and part
of this is we talk about it with day Ball
when he made the change to Jackson Dart. Getting a
rookie quarterback putting him in does give you the benefit
(14:17):
of the doubt where you're like, hey, we're young, we're
gonna learn. But their execution, especially defensively down the stretch,
was not good enough. In that part, we completely agree
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Hey, Doug. Roger Goodell was on a podcast recently and
he said something very interesting about how how he spends
his Sundays.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
How many angry texts are you fielding from owners, players, coaches?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
A lot? Yeah, I would imagine there's a couple that
get a good chuckle though, because you know they're coming.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Probably, Yeah, you know they're coming.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
But I usually send a few myself. I mean when
I'm sitting at home, I can sit with my pat
and I'm writing down notes the whole time about things
I see, things I want to see, things that we
should do better. And my staff hates it because I
come in Monday morning with every play that I would
call him controversial or significant impact, and we look at
(15:33):
those and we take them in and what can we
do to not change that at that point but avoid
that in the future. So I think those inputs are important.
I get them from coaches a lot, and some of
them are funny, some of them. Some of them will
piss me off too, But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's where it works.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think Roger Goodell just admitted that he knows the
product is poor. He gets weekly reminders from in house,
from other people that there are product changes needed and
they are not addressing them. I always find it funny
(16:10):
at the Super Bowl when he does his kind of
State of the Union and nobody nobody asked him about
the climbing product. Because profits are up, ratings are up,
Gambling companies are making money hand over fist. Fantasy leagues
are making billions of dollars. But if you, I dare
anybody listening right now to rewatch the Seahawks game last
(16:35):
night and tell me that that was a good game,
tell me that it was well played, tell me that
you don't want to forward through a lot of it.
And it's not that high scoring games are a great
product and low scoring games are not. It's the all
the officiating calls, you know. I think there's like the
(16:57):
sentiment that the game is over officiated. I would argue
that it's so sloppy they have to blow the whistle,
they have to throw the flag. It's sloppy. That game
last night was utterly sloppy. The team that won was
may have been the sloppiest. It was an awful watch.
And I'm just talking about sitting on your couch. The
(17:18):
eye test fails. You want to do something else, You
want to look at your phone? Is there something else
that that I could pair with this on YouTube TV
and watch the other one? And Roger Goodell just admitted
that he gets those complaints and they do nothing.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Uh yeah, yeah, it's the guy that put it in
the complaint box. Go ahead, knock yourself out. Put it
in the complaint box. You got it? What else is
annoying today?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
This is going to trigger half of the audience. And
here's my advice. Being triggered is a choice. You can
choose not to be triggered. And just before you hear
the SoundBite, I want you to be aware of this.
A lot of people feel differently about a lot of
(18:08):
things than you do. And I venture to say that
stephen A's point about Kyrie here, there has been an
increase in people that feel this way since twenty twenty one.
So allow yourself to be open minded and try to
(18:29):
fight the urge to be triggered by stephen A. Smith
on Carmelo Anthony's podcast talking about Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
You see who Kyrie Irving is. Kyrie is a good brother, man,
Kyrie's a good brother.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
We used to butt heads because.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
He misworked you damn much. And I'm like, yo, man,
his brother's electrified. I want to see this brother dancing
on a basketball court. I want to hear no shit
about no COVID VAC. See you get you ch ass
on the court and you see you now obviously, in hindsight,
the brother right because we see all the conspiracy theories
that come out, and props to him for look for seeing.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
For having the first sight to see that.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
We didn't see that at the time. And then but
you also, I have to understand, I'm living in a
world where you got cats making thirty eight forty forty
five million, you got gms and owners complaining about it,
and you got billionaires looking me in the face of saying, yo,
stephen A, I took that damn vaccine. Who the hell
of that not to take the vaccine? And we're living
in a country where the government was imposing all of
(19:30):
that on us.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Wait, what am I? What am I supposed to agree with?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You don't have agree with anything that What.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was he talking about when you see all these conspiracy theories,
so it makes him right. That doesn't make any sense.
I know he's getting it. Hey, it shouldn't have been
should have been imposed again, all of this is classically
reworking the reality of things. The vaccine did work. Steven
A got really really sick with COVID afterwards said without
(20:06):
the vaccine, he might not be here. And now because
he's searching for some sort of for people to like him,
he's like, yeah, Kyriever's right, because there's always these conspiracy theories.
That doesn't make any sense for a guy who has
masterful control of the English language. That didn't feel like it,
(20:27):
That didn't feel like it at all, didn't feel like
it at all.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Anyway, I'm going to offer up the descending opinion of
George Bringer. Last night. There was something on the Chiron
that he was the World Series MVP of twenty seventeen.
I think they wrote that on the Chiron thinking that
was like an accolade, like in the list of things
(20:55):
on his career, you have like seven time All Star,
you know you have time three hundred. You know Doug
gott label choose to add your Silver Sluggers in your resume.
Twenty seventeen World Series MVP is an albatross. He was
the best cheater on the team that admitted to cheating
(21:19):
to win the World Series. That shouldn't be held in
any kind of accolade. That's an albatross around his neck
that we should never forgive.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
That's not bad. Yeah, I again, I I'm with you
on that World Series. I am, but I don't know
if I can do I am I supposed to hold
it against him because of his achievement last night. That's
my question for you, Jason. It's like, can you not
watch this guy at all and appreciate the home run
(21:54):
he hit and have any respect for him because they
because they cheated. Going back to that Astro's World Series?
Is that where you are?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I guess if you're if you're a Yankee fan or
a Dodger fan, you are much less forgiving of this
whole thing. I think, so are you? Are you asking
did the character of a man who chose to cheat?
Does it change over the over the next eight years?
I don't think so. I think if you cheat, you're
a cheater. I don't know if you know what the
(22:27):
number twenty seven on the back of Al two Vey's
jersey stands for. But he will never be forgotten as
kind of the king cheater. But like I said, I
had forgotten how great Springer was in that World Series,
and then when I saw that he was the MVP
of It'm like, wow, that's he's he was the best
cheater of a team of cheaters. So no, I I'm
(22:50):
obviously less forgiving, but I support the team that was
directly impacted.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Okay, what else is it doing?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
That's it Springer, steven A's Kyrie take and Roger Goodell
admitting openly that he gets a lot of complaints about
the product and they don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Can I can I add? I'm gonna add something that
is annoying to me. It's it's super annoying to me,
super annoying to me on the celebratory nature of people
of coaches getting fired. It's just really really odd. And again,
(23:36):
this is not me being the coach. Maybe a little
bit of it, but I don't think that's what it is.
I think it's the we've we've created this very odd
thing in college athletics. Don't get me wrong, coaches making
eleven point eight million dollars a year doesn't help some
coaches arguments, right, and that's what the Indiana coach just
(23:59):
signed for. But it's like coaches are held to a
higher standard, which they should be, and yet many of
them now, not necessarily head coaches, but assistant coaches are
compensated less than the players that they coach, and the
players that they coach are not held to any sort
(24:20):
of professional standards, Like you can't fire a guy mid
season if he's a player, he's a professional, he's under contract.
There's no difference between him and a player in some
people's the same people who will tell you that players
and coaches should have equal rights are the same people
who don't think that coaches a player, excuse me, should
(24:42):
be cut or summarily fired in the middle of the season.
And then you factor in the you know, I saw
billion Apier got fired from Florida. It's like people are
like celebrating, Like what are you celebrating? Fire guy after
he just won a game. You can still fire him
(25:02):
at the end of the year. All you're gonna do
is pay out more money than you need to and
oh yeah, by the way, like it just seems so
douchey when you're celebrating somebody's demise or that your football
program isn't as good as you want it to be.
That said, here's where I'm gonna here's here's my ruling
(25:25):
on why I'm gonna take Springer and how people gloss
over the the Houston Astros cheating scandal and celebrate that
World Series as if it was on the up and up.
I hate that people do that with even with Barry
Bond's record suddenly, like sports is the one place where
you get caught cheating and they're like, Okay, we caught you,
(25:48):
but we're gonna let you keep the records or keep
the y and keep the wins. Where else does that happen?
Like somebody scores a perfect score in their SAT you
found out they were cheating on it. Do they get
to say they had a purpose score on the SAT?
Speaker 6 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Will they go to like Harvard, Like no, why I
don't understand that. Do you cheat on a test, you
get catching on a test, You always get an F
on that test, except in sports. So I'm with you
in that case on how people gloss over the Astros
win the World Series and make it out like you said,
like it was a good thing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So this was actually on live over the air broadcast
last night. We forget that. We kind of forget that
because so much is on cable or streaming now or
the FCC doesn't get involved. But over the air broadcast
that for those that don't understand broadcasting, there are three
(26:54):
to four networks that you have the right to view
if you can gain access with your rabbiteers and watch
the broadcast. It's free, so there are limitations on what
you could say on free broadcast, and John Schneider violated
that rule over the AIRTV last night.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
This is this is fucking unbelievable for me. This my
twenty fourth year with this organization, and I fucking love
it here.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
These fans, this country, you.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Deserve all of this.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's not about me.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
It's about every single one that's behind me, and I
couldn't be happier to represent this team.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's funny. That's funny. Why could we play it for you?
Because we can. That's it for the end of the Monus podcast.
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