October 23, 2025 • 34 mins
Doug riffs about Victor Wembanyama. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on Shedeur Sanders. Doug welcomes proprietor of KFordRatings.com Kelley Ford to break down the college football weekend. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Wemby makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app Welcome in. You know I was I was watching
the NBA last night and then obviously the story of
the day we covered a ton on the radio show.
Uh is the you know, the arrest of Terry Rogier,
the arrest of johnsy Phillips, the arrest of thirty people
in this illegal gambling ring. And Chris Purfett, who's on
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our board. Of course, he does a podcast in regards
to Detroit Sports. He said something which I actually agree with,
but I want to be different, which is he was,
were you watching the game last night? You're watching Spurs Mavericks?
Because I was watchings.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was two, and I mean all everybody I know
in basketball were techeing each other, like, are you fucking
kidding me? With this guy, Victor Webbin Yama. You know
two years ago he was so thin, so frail. You're like, yeah,
as long as he doesn't break, he'll be pretty good.
And then you know he's got hurt. He had the
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deep ban thum thrombosis, which that scares the crap out
of anybody. Last night, he had forty points, fifteen rebounds.
He only had one one assist that that part has
to but he only took twenty one shots, hit a three,
made most of his free throws. They beat the Dallas
Mavericks one twenty five to ninety two.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Two.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm not I continue to wonder who told uh? Who
told Jason Kidd, a former point guard, it was a
good idea to play Cooper flag at the point because
tripling the ball at the court does not a point
guard make. But whatever, Uh anyway, I just I'm not
gonna take de bait. Yes, radio show, we have to
(02:04):
talk about the gambling, and it's those stories that Jayce
brought up. It's like, wait, this really happens. They really
have mark cards and glasses that can read mark cards.
Like this illegal gambling ring stuff really happened. Yes, it
really really happens. It does. It really happens. But I
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think the bigger story actually is Victor webin Yama arriving
on the scene. Deep bane thrombosis can end your sports career.
Like you, you can have all kinds of medical issues
so to come back from that to looking like an
absolute superstar, and we can say what we want about, Hey,
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they don't have Kyrie or whatever. It's not like they
don't have guys his size to cover him. I mean,
no one has a seven foot four, seven foot five
dude to cover him. But they have Anthony Davis, they
have Derek Lively, they have you kind of go through
their roster. It is a defense first roster. That's how
they're built. You know, from PJ. Washington to Cooper Flag
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to Anthony Davis to Derek Lively, go through and they
have they have Dwight Powell Act. They even have they
even have molmos se say excuse me, Moosasa moose to
sees played at Ole Miss at Oklahoma State, at Memphis,
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great shop blocker, huge. None of them could do anything
with this kid at all. Nothing. So yes, the salacious
story should be told. Is it crazy? Yeah? All these
stories are nuts. You're like, wait, this stuff is really
going on, Like Terry Rozier checking out of a game
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and being so brazen and all this money being thrown down,
and then the fact that the the day the FBI
announces these arrests is the day after the NCAA had
passed and goes into existence rule that college athletes and
coaches can bet on professional sports. You're like, no, this
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is why not because the people who are associated with
illegal gambling and what happens when you get behind all
those things. Don't get me wrong, That's a bigger national
and international story today. Victor Webbinyam is the bigger story
long term. Last night it's not the playoffs. His team's
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not there yet. But last night was the first night
that anybody who watches like that dog will hunt. That
guy's a problem, not just in the future, but in
the present.
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Let's Get to the Fox says every day, this time
in the Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus podcast to
play for your portion of previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. Here's Colin Cowhard talk about the ongoing
nostalgia the NBA has with the NBA and NBC.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And I think there's a lot of things that the
NBA did wrong that they're trying to switch Adam Silver
would admit this, Please embrace college basketball. College basketball's best
players are now staying in college longer because of the
nil embrace March madness, get Anton TV, Cooper Flag on TV,
and get Tyrese Halliburton on every network, Amazon, NBC, ABCESPN
(05:43):
during your telecast. The kid is completely likable, he's engaging,
he's funny. So my take is the last American MVP
was James Harden in twenty eighteen. That is your reality.
The best players are international and they're unbelievable. I mean,
KD is not the player Alprin Chenguniz. Last night Shanguon
couldn't hit threes and pass and rebound, and it's unbelievable.
(06:04):
How good these international bigs are unbelievable. But we've seen
the KD and the staff and Lebron and MJ sixty
two and they're all great. But you got to turn
the page on this thing. You gotta market your young guys.
Baseball's done it. Take a page from baseball. They've done
a great job.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
There was a lot there. That was a lot. You
got to market your young guys, of course you do,
but you also have to Nobody goes to the to
watch a game based upon Alfred Chane Gun. They just don't.
I don't think the NBA has a marketing problem. They
have a bit of an image problem, and today's news
(06:42):
did not help. Did not help. Here's Chris Bers sorry
talking about SGA.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
If SGA was a high flyer, forget playing like Michael Jordan,
if he played like John Moran, I think he'd already
be viewed as the best player in the world. I
really Now you can argue that I think Yo can
the best player in the world. He obviously better rebounder,
better passers, scores as much more efficient all that. But
if SGA had this ultra electrifying game Kobe Jah Jordan
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would I think he would be viewed as the best guy.
And look, so Nick I went down just back, not
all the way back, but starting with Kareem Best. The
best players in the world have always had something unique
about them, unicornish, like they're kind of the only one
or one of the few that does it. Kareem had
the most unique shot ever, the skyhook. Magic was a
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six to nine point guard with incredible passing skills. Jordan,
of course, a high flyer. Kobe similar to Jordan high flyers.
Shaq humongous lebron six' nine does EVERYTHING i think the
route for. Him there's one GUY i left, Out Tim.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Duncan, okay what why do He why do you leave him? Out?
Oh because he's not a high. Flyer, YEAH i don't
Think Michael. Jordan obviously he made his name as a high.
Flyer Michael. Jordan though it wasn't the dunks that people
end up, watching it was the. DOMINANCE i don't. KNOW i,
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mean here's a guy who's a great mid range shooter
with with the with the lack of existence of a
great mid range game being taught or being embraced by most,
coaches myself, included by the way in basketball He's. Canadian
he doesn't jump off the, page he doesn't have a big.
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PERSONALITY i actually think that The spurs are the perfect
analogy to this. Team this is a, really really good.
Team they're gonna get better if the egos continue to
be held in, check they're gonna get. Better the sky
is the limit Because Chad holmgren has a chance to
maybe not be a, superstar but an all star caliber
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third best, player hit a big, three but then he
fouled out right you have another, weapon, again An american born.
Star maybe he's not a high. FLYER i don't think
anybody gives a crap about who's a high flyer and who's.
NOT i just, don't you, Know luca's super, popular he's
not a high. FLYER i. DON'T i don't get that
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one at. All Jalen williams is the other. Guy and,
again this is a team that's built based upon defense
and understated stars and are they going to be covered
and have the love that other people? Know but some
of that comes down to how they've individually been marketed
before this during, it location of the, team style of,
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play and who they are as. People Here's Dan patrick
talking About brown's head Coach Kevin stefanski being asked questions
About Shadoor sanders getting first team reps in.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Practice the media's obsession With Shadoor sanders getting playing time
is interesting because has anybody asked the question to The
Tennessee titans about their backup quarterback getting any? Reps is
anybody asking if the backup To Jackson dart is getting
any reps with the first? Team the media is obsessed
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with this With Shador. Sanders Dylan gabriel is. Played, okay he's, Played,
okay that doesn't mean you've got to put In. SHADOR
i Hope chador gets an, opportunity BUT i hope it's
not one of those, let's you, know do him a
solid and have him. Play Dylan gabriel is a better
quarterback right now Than Shador. Sanders it's plain and. Simple
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not many fifth round draft picks get this kind of.
Attention and, granted it has to do With Dion and you,
know a source with The browns, said, well do you
think if his Name wasn't last name Wasn't, sanders would
he have been drafted? Higher would he have been given this?
OPPORTUNITY i, SAID i don't obsess over. This you, know
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here's another thing nobody's talking about because they don't want
to talk about. It Deshaun watson's going to be back this.
YEAR i believe In. Cleveland, Correct Deshaun watson could return
to being the starting quarterback With. Cleveland let that sink it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Correct dan's one hundred percent. Correct. Correct that's the part
that hasn't been. MENTIONED i don't know what people's obsession
with it, are BUT i he. Is he was a
very popular PLAYER i don't know if people are as
obsessed as the media wants to make, it but we
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are seemingly chasing the. Story it feels it feels like
A tebow. Story but it, also if we're, honest you,
know some of this is nobody really believes In Dylan,
gabriel and if The browns really, did why would they
draft another? Quarterback SO i don't obsess of, it BUT
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i do check to see How Dylan gabriel's. Playing he
did play, well they did win a. Game that's gotta
buy him several more starts before we ever even think about.
This but now those questions become a little bit more
legitimate because he is the second quarterback and you're starting
a third round draft. Pickrookie that's what The fox said.
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App it's The Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports.
Radio let's catch up with a good friend of, mine
a guy who HAS i just. Say go to his
WEBSITES k four ratings dot. Com you can fall him
on social media as, well they got everything from gear
AND t shirts to projections and most. DESERVING i like.
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THAT i like the projections because it's where we try
and figure out what are the games you're most gonna
want to watch this weekend without just looking for numbers
or point spreads or. Whatever K ford. Ratings It's Kelly
ford is our guest here on The Doug Gottlieb. Show
let's go through some of this. Stuff the most interesting
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stories in college football collide In, Bloomington. Indiana THE Ucla.
Bruins THE Ucla bruins taken on The Indiana hoosiers AND
ucla has won three in a row after firing their
coach To Shaun, foster's by the, way friend of. Mine
three games in the, season and you know they take
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Down Penn. State but that was back When Penn state was.
Healthy now they traveled To. Indiana another interesting, story, Right
you got a coach who's suddenly gone from many people
to know who he was a couple of years, ago
high From James madison to now one of the highest
bided coach in the. Country last, year they get to
The College Fall. Playoff this, year they backed it up
with a seven zero, start including a win Over oregon At,
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OREGON i use a twenty six and a half point.
Favorite do your projections have this as a closer game.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
Than, That, yeah DOREG i have that is just about, right,
actually and you're. Right these are two very interesting. Stories of,
Course indiana a team that maybe has overachieved for straight
years now more than anybody. Expected they've been upgraded in
the model by fourteen. Points the model now Views indiana
as two full touchdowns better today than it did in the.
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Preseason so What Kurt signetti is, DOING i, mean this
is a top ten offense defense number four right. Now for,
me it's simply. Incredible BUT i have a ninety seven
percent win expectancy on this. Game for The Hoosiers, ucla
as you, noted they've got quite a turnaround going right,
now and it's been impressive to see what they're doing Since,
foster since they made a change at the head coach.
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Position but Still indiana is rolling right, now And ucla
they're the number two most improved team in the last.
Month BUT i just like The. Hoosiers they're at. Home
it's a big noon kickoff If i'm not, mistaken which
that's nine am local time FOR ucla and those players
on their. Clock so everything about this Screens, indiana and
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MY modla does like them by the. Spread so it's
a big game The. Hoosiers, no they can't. STUMBLE i
don't expect them, to AND i do think they're going
to cover as. Well So indiana is on course to
Play Ohio state in The Big Ten championships. Game and
if you would have said at the beginning of the,
season even after last year's success IS i think most
would have rolled their.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Eyes, okay let's get to one of my favorite games
of the. Weekend Oh, miss fresh off of a devastating
loss at at on the, road they take On. Oklahoma
oklahoma bounce back from loss To texas with a big
win At South. Carolina and this is just Like Murderer's
row for both these. Teams John mattier back was, better
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obviously wasn't good Versus. Texas Oh use a five and
a half point favorite at. Home the totals fifty two
and a.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Half, Yeah i've Got oklahoma with a sixty six percent
win expectancy in this. One and you're, right Murderers, ROW i, Mean.
Doug if we look forward For oklahoma in, particular they're
remaining five regular season. Games from a watchability, standpoint which
for me is a weighted average of team quality the
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two teams, involved and then a projected. Spread so, basically
how quality are the, teams how competitive we effect the
game to. Be it's a scale of zero to. Ten
oklahoma's five remaining games score nine point, seven nine point,
six nine point, five nine point, six nine point. Six
every single one of their remaining games is a nine
point five or better for me on a scale of
zero to, ten this game is going to be Fantastic.
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Oklahoma with, that you know sixty six percent win expect.
Seas so you played this game three, times we expect
The sooners to win it. Twice old miss is coming
off of that disappointing loss To georgia and they know
this is their last kind of really high quality opponent they're.
Playing it's no disrespect To South carolina's no disrespect To
florida or a road trips To Mississippi. State But Old myth,
knows if we win this, one we are liking our
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chances to finish this regular season at eleven and, one
and that could put them in the common station first
spot In. Atlanta it would certainly be putting them into
college football Playoff oklahoma with that murderers row coming. Up
this one's very, important and they bounce back after The
Red river shootout loss with a nice win on the
road In columbia last week against the Game. Cocks this
game is very, important important for both of these. Teams
my numbers Like. OKLAHOMA i like them with the slight
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advantage on both sides of the. Ball woo'd buy this
defense that's number three in the entire. Country Only Ohio
state And texas have better defenses by my model than
The sooners do this. Year and SO i Like oklahoma
the fact that in norm im provides them that extra boost.
TWO i Expect oklahoma to get it. Done but this
is going to, be as you, said a very very good.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Game all, right let's keep it in THE. Sec missouri's
taken On, vanderbilt and Obviously vanderbilt has the outside of
The alabama. Game they are not your Father's vanderbilt commodorece
playing at home against The missoo. Squad vanderbilt is a
two and a half point favorite with a fifty two
and a half.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Total what does the model, Say i've got this exactly
fifty to fifty, dougs fifty percent win expectancy for both
teams in this. Game it's the definition of a pick.
Them for, me What i've been most impressed with By
vanderbilt is this. Offense can we talk a lot About
Diego pavia and you either love him or you hate.
Him there's a lot Of Johnny manzela in. There this
offense is number three in the entire. Country The model's
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been Upgraded vanderbilt this season ten points since the, preseason
so that's number five. Nationally talked About indiana being upgraded
two full, Touchdowns vanderbilt right behind them there kind of
in that, metric doug there's a fifty percent chance right
now That vanderbilt wins at least nine regular season. GAMES i,
mean it's truly remarkable What Clark lee and this coaching
staff has done In. Nashville and this game is going
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to be very. COMPETITIVE i expect it to be very very. Close,
missouri the model was taken them back a little bit
by the double overtime performance last week At, auburn but
this is still a very Good missouri, team number sixteen
in the midle top twenty on both sides of the,
Ball So vanderbilt has the best union in this game on.
Offense the worst unit, though is The vanderbilt defense at
number forty. Two it's a straight up pick them for.
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Me should be very very good and as we look
forward here For, missouri they're off next week and Then
TEXAS a AND m comes To columbia the week after.
That they close the two road games At oklahoma and At.
Arkansas missouri has played a relatively weak schedule to this.
POINT i think for them to achieve the goals that
they have this, year they need to win this. Game
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so there's a lot on the. Line it's not an
elimination game for. Me and this is only the number,
two the second loss for either of these, teams SO
i think they can still bounce back and make THE.
Cfp But missouri knows they've got to win this, ONE
i think if they want to achieve their goals for this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Season Stug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports Trailers Kelly
ford who joins US byu huge win in the in
The Holy war last week Against. Utah now they travel
To Iowa, state who it's really interesting What Matt campbell's done,
right because if you, said, Hey Iowa states five and
two soft finish to their, schedule you, know looking at
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sevent eight, wins be like that's. Great, well but the
expectations have been raised because of his success. There they've
lost two in a, row both road. Games now they
come back home To Jack Trice stadium and they welcome
IN Byu Iowa state to two and a half point.
Favorite doesn't this one stream home team AGAINST?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
Yu, Yeah, doug it does because as you, said they've
lost two in a, row they were off last week AND,
byu as you, noted had the very Emotional Holy war
win at. Home so this is one where you'd, expect you,
KNOW byu they got to come back to, earth they
got to. Refocus they're undefeated this, season And Iowa state
had the week. Off they're they're licking their. Wounds, yes
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it does on the, surface Scream Iowa state the home team,
here and that's why they're the. Favorite if we kind
of strip away some of those scheduling dynamics from a
strictly modeling, standpoint my numbers actually LIKE byu very slightly,
here fifty five percent win. Expectancy the defense is really.
Good number eleven in the. Country the offense is top,
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thirty so that is the difference. There though THE byu
DEFENSE i think should have a significant. Advantage are they
able to? Refocus if this was a five and TWO
byu team that just beat their big rivals In, Utah
i'd be more. Concerned this team is seven and. Zero
everything that they want is in front of. Them, STILL
i Expect Colony satake and that staff to be able
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to get them. Refocused going To Ames iowa's. Hard ask
anybody that's played there Since Matt campbell's been the head,
coach they are not going to overlook this. GAME byu
is off next, week so there's no look ahead spot
before a tricky trip to Lubb it to Play texas
TEX i think there is some value here in TAKING,
byu either you, know with the points or just straight
up to win this one money. LINE i LIKE byu
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in this. GAME i like this, TEAM i love this,
defense and they are for me right now a favorite
to make it To arlington at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Season my favorite game of the weekend Is Brian kelly
suddenly now under pressure AT lsu and a guy who's
had good offenses and had coming in the, year really good.
Quarterback now they're at home And TEXAS a AND m
is number three in the country and looking like a
team that can play in The College Fball playoff and
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play for AN sec. Championship what's the model say in
regards to The aggies Usiting Death.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Valley, Yeah i've got a fifty four percent win expectancy
here in favor OF, lsu and, so you, know coming
off of a disappointing loss on the road At, VANDERBILT
i EXPECT lsu to be playing like their college football
playoff lives are on the, line BECAUSE i think they.
Are we saw last year from THE, sec you, know
whether it Was South carolina Or alabama Or Old, miss
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nine and three wasn't good. Enough And i'm not convinced
that it's going to be good enough this. YEAR lsu
knows from this point forward we have no margin for
air and they still have road trips To alabama Into.
Norman they cannot afford to lose this. GAME i expect
them to be playing like that on This, saturday AND
i think they're going to have enough to get it.
Done this defense is incredibly, good number six in the.
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Country what's, surprising and you touched on, It. Doug you
know you Got nutsmeyer. Quarterback people are talking about The
Heisman trophy in the. Preseason they have not performed to
the level of. Expectation they fallen significantly. Short they're barely
top fifty on that side of the ball for, me
and that's gonna be challenging because This TEXAS a AND
m offense is really good at the top ten. Unit
but they're going on the road and they were just
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on the road At arkansas last week in a big rivalry.
Game now they go To Depth, valley one of the
toughest places to play in the entire entire. Country this
should be a very competitive GAME a AND. M if
they get this, One doug has to, start you, know
it'd be human nature to start thinking about the cost
ball playoffs because they're off next. Week then they go
on the road To columbia to Play, missouri they get
the Game cocks In College station after that BEFORE Fcs,
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stanford and then of course you end then the season
on the road In austin against a big rival In.
Texas BUT i, mean you're going to be eight to
o if you win this, one and that means a
two and two finish is going to be, ENOUGH i would,
think AND i think they're gonna get. That SO a
AND m knows if we win this, one we are
in a very very good. POSITION lsu. Knows if we
don't win this, one it could be over stakes to
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not be. Higher Brian kelly and his team have their
backs up against the. Wall i'm with. YOU i am most.
EXCITED i think about any game this, weekend that's this.
ONE lsu In, TEXAS.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
A AND m should be, great should be, Great, kelly
your energy for, this your passion for the, site of,
course fall on social. Media Kelly ford, Ratings kate K
ford Ratings Index fall on social, media go to his.
Website he loves and covers college football as much as
anybody who does, it and it just has this unique
ability to make it make sense with the WATCHABILITY i
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think is the. Best it really. Does use this computer
model to give you what's most likely to be the
best games of the. Weekend, kelly thanks so much for
being a. Guest we'll talk to you next.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Week thank. You doug appreciate.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
It as.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Always let's find out who what is Annoying Jason stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And now it's your.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Annoying right The broncos won the game On, Sunday Sean
payton had this quote his comment, afterwards it was like
a thinly veiled shot At Russell, wilson you. Buyer everyone
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in the industry took it as a shot At Russell.
Wilson it was obviously a thinly veiled shot At Russell.
Wilson and Then Russell wilson himself knew that it was
a shot at, him so he sent out a tweet
calling the coach, classless among other. Things and Then Sean,
payton in this moment that we were waiting for the third,
(25:40):
act the third part of, this he was going to.
Respond so he got up on the podium yesterday and
addressed the whole thing this, way.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
The, euphoria the way that game, unfolded that was strictly
about Dark that was in no, way shape or form
anything that was directed At. Russ i'm might be able
to see how he might perceive, That but coming off
that win and watching how he, played, yeah that that
wasn't any intention at.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
ALL i was talking To bayer yesterday during our show
because this hasn't hadn't broken, yet AND i, said ninety
nine percent of head coaches would would try to deflect
this or try to completely put it away or not
even address. It but Like Sean payton's the one guy
that doesn't give a, Fuck like he has been crushing
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people since he took that. Job remember that piece that
he just took aim At Nathaniel, Hackett LIKE i just
and he's he's had a, Career he's not beholden to any.
Anybody so it's LIKE i, thought for once we were
going to get a coach candidly clarifying what was wrong
With Russell. WILSON i really thought that there was gonna
be a third part of. This so the annoying part
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is that he did what ninety nine percent of people
do and then he kind of treated us as, fools
as if no one actually thought it was a shot
At Russell.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Wilson, yeah, WELL i mean that part is that's The
these aren't the droids you're looking, for, Right that's What
that's what felt. Like, YEAH i JUST i felt like
she shot At Russell. Wills, no, no, oh he's the
other quarterback with The. Giants, yeah out of. Here, YEAH
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i used to coach him a couple of years. Ago,
yeah that feels like? Bullshit who?
Speaker 9 (27:28):
ELSE i think the nod to us who know it
was About Russell wilson's when he SAID i could see
where he might take it that, way like that was
that was him given a little, bit but very. Disappointing
so the annoying part about this next topic is That
i'm too old to know what the fuck this. Is
So Chris purfet the most educated person At Fox Sports.
(27:52):
Radio he's got like nine. Degrees, uh he's. Young he's
of the. YOUNGER i think he's in his. TWENTIES i
just turned, Thirty that's WHAT i. MET i think he's
in his, thirties maybe weight. Thirties he's a. Millennial, doug
you have a teenage. Son you coach players in their
late teens and early. Twenties Aman Ross Saint brown said
(28:16):
something on his podcast this. Week he was clarifying a
gesture that he made in a touchdown celebration On monday.
Night so he does the, touchdown he does the way
between two things gesture that kind of looks like a
guy like weighing two melons and making fun of, breasts
and he says six or seven sixth, seventh sixth, Seven
(28:38):
so he tries to explain it to his brother, here what.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
About your celebration? There what's up with?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That?
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Hey, yeah that's a little six. Seven you know that
was my six touchdowns going to that, game that was my,
Seven so it only made sense for me to hit
the six. Seven you, KNOW i know the kids loved.
IT i loved. It what what it? MEANS i still
have no clue what six to seven? Means but it's
just like six? Seven Accept do.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You have no idea what it? Means you can? Explain
do you know what it? Means? NO i MEAN i
thought you know WHAT i. MEAN i thought you knew
what it. Meant LIKE i thought that knows what it.
Means i'll someone comment in the converce. SESSION i didn't
know what that. MEANS i don't think there's a. Meaning
there's no it's just, okay we'll find. Out we'll find
out after.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
This SO i went down a rabbit hole to see
exactly what where this derived from where it? Began are
either of you up to speed on what this? Means
has anyone explained to, You doug what six seven means
and why the rage on?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
TikTok, nope no. Idea So i'm familiar with, it but
As i'm familiar with, IT i don't know what it.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Means as far AS i can, tell there is no,
meaning like by. Design they we we love using this
term brain rot and it's very much so we've rounded
back around To. Dadaism we've rounded back around to like
this is just a thing for the sake of a,
Thing like maybe once upon time there was a, meaning
but we've so stripped the meaning out of, it and
nobody cares what the meaning is. Anymore we're just doing. It,
(29:57):
YEAH i think that's probably the best description of. Heard
so the rabbit hole THAT i went down there is
something that goes back to one of the ball brothers
what's his name on edge And charlotte being six foot, seven,
yeah and then he did this thing where he is
six seven six eight thing and then he went back
and forth and all of a sudden it just took
(30:19):
off because it's a ball. Brother BUT i don't know
how it's become what it. Is and then you HAVE
nfl players doing it who can't even themselves explain what it.
Is it's it's really one of the true. Mysteries And
i'm glad we came to the conclusion that it means.
Nothing you've just watched a bunch of people do it on,
TikTok so you just want to do it. Yourself THAT'S i.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
MEAN i saw.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
It someone said it originated from a, rapper but THEN
i saw those lyrics And i'm LIKE i but, LIKE
i don't. KNOW i did art history and one of
my nine, degrees AND i appreciated it was about one
hundred years. Ago the term, dataism which is just nonsense
for the sake of. Nonsense there's a whole art style
of just. Absurdity and this is kind of what our
(31:01):
prevailing culture is with the internet, Now like this doesn't mean.
ANYTHING i don't think it's supposed to mean. Anything you're
just doing it because everyone else is doing it and
it's and like it triggered some part of your brain
where you just giggled a little.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
Bit so there you. GO i hope the listeners learned something.
Today so to talk a, viola he's been a circus
at the podium for two weeks and He Jalen, WATTLE
i guess didn't get any, targets or maybe one or
two targets On. Sunday So tua was asked Why Jalen,
wattle his best, receiver did not get many.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Targets, YEAH i think with with, that some of it
has to do with being able to see guys with
their guys also up front and our.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Guys And i'm not the tallest.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Guy in the back there, either so being able to
see and then you, know sometimes when that, happens you
don't want to just throw.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It blindly and you got to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Progress SO i think that that had some merit to
reasons as to why that happened for a.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
WHILE i have a. Theory dog you, know there's a
thing called quiet, quitting and then there's just blatantly trying
to get fired knowing you have a guaranteed. Contract it
just seems like his his just is maybe you said
last week he's not very, bright but like it almost
seems like he's intentionally trying to get. Released when you say,
IT i probably just didn't see. Him i'm not that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Tall, yeah that part, Is that part is odd right
where it is something that you can use against Him Kyler,
murray some of these other. Quarterbacks but forever there's been a. Pushbackup,
no they've been that tall their whole. Life they know
how to do, it AND i didn't think he said
(32:43):
it in a way in which it was he was
trying to be, funny he was being kind of matter of.
FACT i can't See you're, like well that's a. Problem
that's a. Problem.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
Yeah so to six, seven the mystery of six seven
And Sean payton being, DISAPPOINTING.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I think it's the mystery of sixty. Seven i'll tell you.
Why you have lots of people doing these six to
seven celebrations, whatever and no one actually knows what it, Means,
like what if it meant something really? Sinister what if
it meant six seven ways to have death To? America
we just got to go along with it because it's a,
(33:25):
trend and for that it's Annoy.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Why are we doing?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
THIS i do.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Because we.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Can we have the latest person on a hot mic
during a post game, Broadcast Victor Webbin, yama who had
an amazing season debut last night and then got a
little loose with it on the postgame.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Interview, well we worked for and All oliver's got our
own battles and struggle was in uh jack throwers out
and work fucking.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
Hunting this, summer so it's paying, off you, know all
dreams aren't allowed, now you.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Know i've just got to be back because after What i've,
lived if you made something.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Pretty, good WELL i could play for. You because we.
Can't that's it for the end The Modes. Podcast check
out the radio show every day three to FIVE eastrom
twelve Two, Pacific Fox Sports. Radio iHeartRadio. App I'm Doug
gottlie
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Up.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio
app Welcome in. You know I was I was watching
the NBA last night and then obviously the story of
the day we covered a ton on the radio show.
Uh is the you know, the arrest of Terry Rogier,
the arrest of johnsy Phillips, the arrest of thirty people
in this illegal gambling ring. And Chris Purfett, who's on
(00:36):
our board. Of course, he does a podcast in regards
to Detroit Sports. He said something which I actually agree with,
but I want to be different, which is he was,
were you watching the game last night? You're watching Spurs Mavericks?
Because I was watchings.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was two, and I mean all everybody I know
in basketball were techeing each other, like, are you fucking
kidding me? With this guy, Victor Webbin Yama. You know
two years ago he was so thin, so frail. You're like, yeah,
as long as he doesn't break, he'll be pretty good.
And then you know he's got hurt. He had the
(01:16):
deep ban thum thrombosis, which that scares the crap out
of anybody. Last night, he had forty points, fifteen rebounds.
He only had one one assist that that part has
to but he only took twenty one shots, hit a three,
made most of his free throws. They beat the Dallas
Mavericks one twenty five to ninety two.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Two.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm not I continue to wonder who told uh? Who
told Jason Kidd, a former point guard, it was a
good idea to play Cooper flag at the point because
tripling the ball at the court does not a point
guard make. But whatever, Uh anyway, I just I'm not
gonna take de bait. Yes, radio show, we have to
(02:04):
talk about the gambling, and it's those stories that Jayce
brought up. It's like, wait, this really happens. They really
have mark cards and glasses that can read mark cards.
Like this illegal gambling ring stuff really happened. Yes, it
really really happens. It does. It really happens. But I
(02:25):
think the bigger story actually is Victor webin Yama arriving
on the scene. Deep bane thrombosis can end your sports career.
Like you, you can have all kinds of medical issues
so to come back from that to looking like an
absolute superstar, and we can say what we want about, Hey,
(02:49):
they don't have Kyrie or whatever. It's not like they
don't have guys his size to cover him. I mean,
no one has a seven foot four, seven foot five
dude to cover him. But they have Anthony Davis, they
have Derek Lively, they have you kind of go through
their roster. It is a defense first roster. That's how
they're built. You know, from PJ. Washington to Cooper Flag
(03:13):
to Anthony Davis to Derek Lively, go through and they
have they have Dwight Powell Act. They even have they
even have molmos se say excuse me, Moosasa moose to
sees played at Ole Miss at Oklahoma State, at Memphis,
(03:34):
great shop blocker, huge. None of them could do anything
with this kid at all. Nothing. So yes, the salacious
story should be told. Is it crazy? Yeah? All these
stories are nuts. You're like, wait, this stuff is really
going on, Like Terry Rozier checking out of a game
(03:54):
and being so brazen and all this money being thrown down,
and then the fact that the the day the FBI
announces these arrests is the day after the NCAA had
passed and goes into existence rule that college athletes and
coaches can bet on professional sports. You're like, no, this
(04:17):
is why not because the people who are associated with
illegal gambling and what happens when you get behind all
those things. Don't get me wrong, That's a bigger national
and international story today. Victor Webbinyam is the bigger story
long term. Last night it's not the playoffs. His team's
(04:40):
not there yet. But last night was the first night
that anybody who watches like that dog will hunt. That
guy's a problem, not just in the future, but in
the present.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
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Speaker 3 (05:03):
Let's Get to the Fox says every day, this time
in the Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus podcast to
play for your portion of previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One. Here's Colin Cowhard talk about the ongoing
nostalgia the NBA has with the NBA and NBC.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And I think there's a lot of things that the
NBA did wrong that they're trying to switch Adam Silver
would admit this, Please embrace college basketball. College basketball's best
players are now staying in college longer because of the
nil embrace March madness, get Anton TV, Cooper Flag on TV,
and get Tyrese Halliburton on every network, Amazon, NBC, ABCESPN
(05:43):
during your telecast. The kid is completely likable, he's engaging,
he's funny. So my take is the last American MVP
was James Harden in twenty eighteen. That is your reality.
The best players are international and they're unbelievable. I mean,
KD is not the player Alprin Chenguniz. Last night Shanguon
couldn't hit threes and pass and rebound, and it's unbelievable.
(06:04):
How good these international bigs are unbelievable. But we've seen
the KD and the staff and Lebron and MJ sixty
two and they're all great. But you got to turn
the page on this thing. You gotta market your young guys.
Baseball's done it. Take a page from baseball. They've done
a great job.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
There was a lot there. That was a lot. You
got to market your young guys, of course you do,
but you also have to Nobody goes to the to
watch a game based upon Alfred Chane Gun. They just don't.
I don't think the NBA has a marketing problem. They
have a bit of an image problem, and today's news
(06:42):
did not help. Did not help. Here's Chris Bers sorry
talking about SGA.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
If SGA was a high flyer, forget playing like Michael Jordan,
if he played like John Moran, I think he'd already
be viewed as the best player in the world. I
really Now you can argue that I think Yo can
the best player in the world. He obviously better rebounder,
better passers, scores as much more efficient all that. But
if SGA had this ultra electrifying game Kobe Jah Jordan
(07:12):
would I think he would be viewed as the best guy.
And look, so Nick I went down just back, not
all the way back, but starting with Kareem Best. The
best players in the world have always had something unique
about them, unicornish, like they're kind of the only one
or one of the few that does it. Kareem had
the most unique shot ever, the skyhook. Magic was a
(07:34):
six to nine point guard with incredible passing skills. Jordan,
of course, a high flyer. Kobe similar to Jordan high flyers.
Shaq humongous lebron six' nine does EVERYTHING i think the
route for. Him there's one GUY i left, Out Tim.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Duncan, okay what why do He why do you leave him? Out?
Oh because he's not a high. Flyer, YEAH i don't
Think Michael. Jordan obviously he made his name as a high.
Flyer Michael. Jordan though it wasn't the dunks that people
end up, watching it was the. DOMINANCE i don't. KNOW i,
(08:13):
mean here's a guy who's a great mid range shooter
with with the with the lack of existence of a
great mid range game being taught or being embraced by most,
coaches myself, included by the way in basketball He's. Canadian
he doesn't jump off the, page he doesn't have a big.
(08:33):
PERSONALITY i actually think that The spurs are the perfect
analogy to this. Team this is a, really really good.
Team they're gonna get better if the egos continue to
be held in, check they're gonna get. Better the sky
is the limit Because Chad holmgren has a chance to
maybe not be a, superstar but an all star caliber
(08:57):
third best, player hit a big, three but then he
fouled out right you have another, weapon, again An american born.
Star maybe he's not a high. FLYER i don't think
anybody gives a crap about who's a high flyer and who's.
NOT i just, don't you, Know luca's super, popular he's
not a high. FLYER i. DON'T i don't get that
(09:17):
one at. All Jalen williams is the other. Guy and,
again this is a team that's built based upon defense
and understated stars and are they going to be covered
and have the love that other people? Know but some
of that comes down to how they've individually been marketed
before this during, it location of the, team style of,
(09:39):
play and who they are as. People Here's Dan patrick
talking About brown's head Coach Kevin stefanski being asked questions
About Shadoor sanders getting first team reps in.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Practice the media's obsession With Shadoor sanders getting playing time
is interesting because has anybody asked the question to The
Tennessee titans about their backup quarterback getting any? Reps is
anybody asking if the backup To Jackson dart is getting
any reps with the first? Team the media is obsessed
(10:14):
with this With Shador. Sanders Dylan gabriel is. Played, okay he's, Played,
okay that doesn't mean you've got to put In. SHADOR
i Hope chador gets an, opportunity BUT i hope it's
not one of those, let's you, know do him a
solid and have him. Play Dylan gabriel is a better
quarterback right now Than Shador. Sanders it's plain and. Simple
(10:36):
not many fifth round draft picks get this kind of.
Attention and, granted it has to do With Dion and you,
know a source with The browns, said, well do you
think if his Name wasn't last name Wasn't, sanders would
he have been drafted? Higher would he have been given this?
OPPORTUNITY i, SAID i don't obsess over. This you, know
(10:57):
here's another thing nobody's talking about because they don't want
to talk about. It Deshaun watson's going to be back this.
YEAR i believe In. Cleveland, Correct Deshaun watson could return
to being the starting quarterback With. Cleveland let that sink it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Correct dan's one hundred percent. Correct. Correct that's the part
that hasn't been. MENTIONED i don't know what people's obsession
with it, are BUT i he. Is he was a
very popular PLAYER i don't know if people are as
obsessed as the media wants to make, it but we
(11:33):
are seemingly chasing the. Story it feels it feels like
A tebow. Story but it, also if we're, honest you,
know some of this is nobody really believes In Dylan,
gabriel and if The browns really, did why would they
draft another? Quarterback SO i don't obsess of, it BUT
(11:54):
i do check to see How Dylan gabriel's. Playing he
did play, well they did win a. Game that's gotta
buy him several more starts before we ever even think about.
This but now those questions become a little bit more
legitimate because he is the second quarterback and you're starting
a third round draft. Pickrookie that's what The fox said.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Say be sure to catch live editions Of The Doug
Gottlieb show weekdays at three Pm eastern Noon pacific On
Fox Sports radio and The iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
App it's The Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports.
Radio let's catch up with a good friend of, mine
a guy who HAS i just. Say go to his
WEBSITES k four ratings dot. Com you can fall him
on social media as, well they got everything from gear
AND t shirts to projections and most. DESERVING i like.
(12:47):
THAT i like the projections because it's where we try
and figure out what are the games you're most gonna
want to watch this weekend without just looking for numbers
or point spreads or. Whatever K ford. Ratings It's Kelly
ford is our guest here on The Doug Gottlieb. Show
let's go through some of this. Stuff the most interesting
(13:08):
stories in college football collide In, Bloomington. Indiana THE Ucla.
Bruins THE Ucla bruins taken on The Indiana hoosiers AND
ucla has won three in a row after firing their
coach To Shaun, foster's by the, way friend of. Mine
three games in the, season and you know they take
(13:31):
Down Penn. State but that was back When Penn state was.
Healthy now they traveled To. Indiana another interesting, story, Right
you got a coach who's suddenly gone from many people
to know who he was a couple of years, ago
high From James madison to now one of the highest
bided coach in the. Country last, year they get to
The College Fall. Playoff this, year they backed it up
with a seven zero, start including a win Over oregon At,
(13:52):
OREGON i use a twenty six and a half point.
Favorite do your projections have this as a closer game.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
Than, That, yeah DOREG i have that is just about, right,
actually and you're. Right these are two very interesting. Stories of,
Course indiana a team that maybe has overachieved for straight
years now more than anybody. Expected they've been upgraded in
the model by fourteen. Points the model now Views indiana
as two full touchdowns better today than it did in the.
(14:20):
Preseason so What Kurt signetti is, DOING i, mean this
is a top ten offense defense number four right. Now for,
me it's simply. Incredible BUT i have a ninety seven
percent win expectancy on this. Game for The Hoosiers, ucla
as you, noted they've got quite a turnaround going right,
now and it's been impressive to see what they're doing Since,
foster since they made a change at the head coach.
(14:43):
Position but Still indiana is rolling right, now And ucla
they're the number two most improved team in the last.
Month BUT i just like The. Hoosiers they're at. Home
it's a big noon kickoff If i'm not, mistaken which
that's nine am local time FOR ucla and those players
on their. Clock so everything about this Screens, indiana and
(15:05):
MY modla does like them by the. Spread so it's
a big game The. Hoosiers, no they can't. STUMBLE i
don't expect them, to AND i do think they're going
to cover as. Well So indiana is on course to
Play Ohio state in The Big Ten championships. Game and
if you would have said at the beginning of the,
season even after last year's success IS i think most
would have rolled their.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Eyes, okay let's get to one of my favorite games
of the. Weekend Oh, miss fresh off of a devastating
loss at at on the, road they take On. Oklahoma
oklahoma bounce back from loss To texas with a big
win At South. Carolina and this is just Like Murderer's
row for both these. Teams John mattier back was, better
(15:46):
obviously wasn't good Versus. Texas Oh use a five and
a half point favorite at. Home the totals fifty two
and a.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Half, Yeah i've Got oklahoma with a sixty six percent
win expectancy in this. One and you're, right Murderers, ROW i, Mean.
Doug if we look forward For oklahoma in, particular they're
remaining five regular season. Games from a watchability, standpoint which
for me is a weighted average of team quality the
(16:11):
two teams, involved and then a projected. Spread so, basically
how quality are the, teams how competitive we effect the
game to. Be it's a scale of zero to. Ten
oklahoma's five remaining games score nine point, seven nine point,
six nine point, five nine point, six nine point. Six
every single one of their remaining games is a nine
point five or better for me on a scale of
zero to, ten this game is going to be Fantastic.
(16:34):
Oklahoma with, that you know sixty six percent win expect.
Seas so you played this game three, times we expect
The sooners to win it. Twice old miss is coming
off of that disappointing loss To georgia and they know
this is their last kind of really high quality opponent they're.
Playing it's no disrespect To South carolina's no disrespect To
florida or a road trips To Mississippi. State But Old myth,
knows if we win this, one we are liking our
(16:56):
chances to finish this regular season at eleven and, one
and that could put them in the common station first
spot In. Atlanta it would certainly be putting them into
college football Playoff oklahoma with that murderers row coming. Up
this one's very, important and they bounce back after The
Red river shootout loss with a nice win on the
road In columbia last week against the Game. Cocks this
game is very, important important for both of these. Teams
my numbers Like. OKLAHOMA i like them with the slight
(17:18):
advantage on both sides of the. Ball woo'd buy this
defense that's number three in the entire. Country Only Ohio
state And texas have better defenses by my model than
The sooners do this. Year and SO i Like oklahoma
the fact that in norm im provides them that extra boost.
TWO i Expect oklahoma to get it. Done but this
is going to, be as you, said a very very good.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Game all, right let's keep it in THE. Sec missouri's
taken On, vanderbilt and Obviously vanderbilt has the outside of
The alabama. Game they are not your Father's vanderbilt commodorece
playing at home against The missoo. Squad vanderbilt is a
two and a half point favorite with a fifty two
and a half.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Total what does the model, Say i've got this exactly
fifty to fifty, dougs fifty percent win expectancy for both
teams in this. Game it's the definition of a pick.
Them for, me What i've been most impressed with By
vanderbilt is this. Offense can we talk a lot About
Diego pavia and you either love him or you hate.
Him there's a lot Of Johnny manzela in. There this
offense is number three in the entire. Country The model's
(18:19):
been Upgraded vanderbilt this season ten points since the, preseason
so that's number five. Nationally talked About indiana being upgraded
two full, Touchdowns vanderbilt right behind them there kind of
in that, metric doug there's a fifty percent chance right
now That vanderbilt wins at least nine regular season. GAMES i,
mean it's truly remarkable What Clark lee and this coaching
staff has done In. Nashville and this game is going
(18:41):
to be very. COMPETITIVE i expect it to be very very. Close,
missouri the model was taken them back a little bit
by the double overtime performance last week At, auburn but
this is still a very Good missouri, team number sixteen
in the midle top twenty on both sides of the,
Ball So vanderbilt has the best union in this game on.
Offense the worst unit, though is The vanderbilt defense at
number forty. Two it's a straight up pick them for.
(19:02):
Me should be very very good and as we look
forward here For, missouri they're off next week and Then
TEXAS a AND m comes To columbia the week after.
That they close the two road games At oklahoma and At.
Arkansas missouri has played a relatively weak schedule to this.
POINT i think for them to achieve the goals that
they have this, year they need to win this. Game
(19:23):
so there's a lot on the. Line it's not an
elimination game for. Me and this is only the number,
two the second loss for either of these, teams SO
i think they can still bounce back and make THE.
Cfp But missouri knows they've got to win this, ONE
i think if they want to achieve their goals for this.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Season Stug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports Trailers Kelly
ford who joins US byu huge win in the in
The Holy war last week Against. Utah now they travel
To Iowa, state who it's really interesting What Matt campbell's done,
right because if you, said, Hey Iowa states five and
two soft finish to their, schedule you, know looking at
(19:57):
sevent eight, wins be like that's. Great, well but the
expectations have been raised because of his success. There they've
lost two in a, row both road. Games now they
come back home To Jack Trice stadium and they welcome
IN Byu Iowa state to two and a half point.
Favorite doesn't this one stream home team AGAINST?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
Yu, Yeah, doug it does because as you, said they've
lost two in a, row they were off last week AND,
byu as you, noted had the very Emotional Holy war
win at. Home so this is one where you'd, expect you,
KNOW byu they got to come back to, earth they
got to. Refocus they're undefeated this, season And Iowa state
had the week. Off they're they're licking their. Wounds, yes
(20:40):
it does on the, surface Scream Iowa state the home team,
here and that's why they're the. Favorite if we kind
of strip away some of those scheduling dynamics from a
strictly modeling, standpoint my numbers actually LIKE byu very slightly,
here fifty five percent win. Expectancy the defense is really.
Good number eleven in the. Country the offense is top,
(21:00):
thirty so that is the difference. There though THE byu
DEFENSE i think should have a significant. Advantage are they
able to? Refocus if this was a five and TWO
byu team that just beat their big rivals In, Utah
i'd be more. Concerned this team is seven and. Zero
everything that they want is in front of. Them, STILL
i Expect Colony satake and that staff to be able
(21:21):
to get them. Refocused going To Ames iowa's. Hard ask
anybody that's played there Since Matt campbell's been the head,
coach they are not going to overlook this. GAME byu
is off next, week so there's no look ahead spot
before a tricky trip to Lubb it to Play texas
TEX i think there is some value here in TAKING,
byu either you, know with the points or just straight
up to win this one money. LINE i LIKE byu
(21:43):
in this. GAME i like this, TEAM i love this,
defense and they are for me right now a favorite
to make it To arlington at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Season my favorite game of the weekend Is Brian kelly
suddenly now under pressure AT lsu and a guy who's
had good offenses and had coming in the, year really good.
Quarterback now they're at home And TEXAS a AND m
is number three in the country and looking like a
team that can play in The College Fball playoff and
(22:13):
play for AN sec. Championship what's the model say in
regards to The aggies Usiting Death.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Valley, Yeah i've got a fifty four percent win expectancy
here in favor OF, lsu and, so you, know coming
off of a disappointing loss on the road At, VANDERBILT
i EXPECT lsu to be playing like their college football
playoff lives are on the, line BECAUSE i think they.
Are we saw last year from THE, sec you, know
whether it Was South carolina Or alabama Or Old, miss
(22:41):
nine and three wasn't good. Enough And i'm not convinced
that it's going to be good enough this. YEAR lsu
knows from this point forward we have no margin for
air and they still have road trips To alabama Into.
Norman they cannot afford to lose this. GAME i expect
them to be playing like that on This, saturday AND
i think they're going to have enough to get it.
Done this defense is incredibly, good number six in the.
(23:04):
Country what's, surprising and you touched on, It. Doug you
know you Got nutsmeyer. Quarterback people are talking about The
Heisman trophy in the. Preseason they have not performed to
the level of. Expectation they fallen significantly. Short they're barely
top fifty on that side of the ball for, me
and that's gonna be challenging because This TEXAS a AND
m offense is really good at the top ten. Unit
but they're going on the road and they were just
(23:25):
on the road At arkansas last week in a big rivalry.
Game now they go To Depth, valley one of the
toughest places to play in the entire entire. Country this
should be a very competitive GAME a AND. M if
they get this, One doug has to, start you, know
it'd be human nature to start thinking about the cost
ball playoffs because they're off next. Week then they go
on the road To columbia to Play, missouri they get
the Game cocks In College station after that BEFORE Fcs,
(23:47):
stanford and then of course you end then the season
on the road In austin against a big rival In.
Texas BUT i, mean you're going to be eight to
o if you win this, one and that means a
two and two finish is going to be, ENOUGH i would,
think AND i think they're gonna get. That SO a
AND m knows if we win this, one we are
in a very very good. POSITION lsu. Knows if we
don't win this, one it could be over stakes to
(24:08):
not be. Higher Brian kelly and his team have their
backs up against the. Wall i'm with. YOU i am most.
EXCITED i think about any game this, weekend that's this.
ONE lsu In, TEXAS.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
A AND m should be, great should be, Great, kelly
your energy for, this your passion for the, site of,
course fall on social. Media Kelly ford, Ratings kate K
ford Ratings Index fall on social, media go to his.
Website he loves and covers college football as much as
anybody who does, it and it just has this unique
ability to make it make sense with the WATCHABILITY i
(24:39):
think is the. Best it really. Does use this computer
model to give you what's most likely to be the
best games of the. Weekend, kelly thanks so much for
being a. Guest we'll talk to you next.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Week thank. You doug appreciate.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
It as.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Always let's find out who what is Annoying Jason stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And now it's your.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Annoying right The broncos won the game On, Sunday Sean
payton had this quote his comment, afterwards it was like
a thinly veiled shot At Russell, wilson you. Buyer everyone
(25:18):
in the industry took it as a shot At Russell.
Wilson it was obviously a thinly veiled shot At Russell.
Wilson and Then Russell wilson himself knew that it was
a shot at, him so he sent out a tweet
calling the coach, classless among other. Things and Then Sean,
payton in this moment that we were waiting for the third,
(25:40):
act the third part of, this he was going to.
Respond so he got up on the podium yesterday and
addressed the whole thing this, way.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
The, euphoria the way that game, unfolded that was strictly
about Dark that was in no, way shape or form
anything that was directed At. Russ i'm might be able
to see how he might perceive, That but coming off
that win and watching how he, played, yeah that that
wasn't any intention at.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
ALL i was talking To bayer yesterday during our show
because this hasn't hadn't broken, yet AND i, said ninety
nine percent of head coaches would would try to deflect
this or try to completely put it away or not
even address. It but Like Sean payton's the one guy
that doesn't give a, Fuck like he has been crushing
(26:30):
people since he took that. Job remember that piece that
he just took aim At Nathaniel, Hackett LIKE i just
and he's he's had a, Career he's not beholden to any.
Anybody so it's LIKE i, thought for once we were
going to get a coach candidly clarifying what was wrong
With Russell. WILSON i really thought that there was gonna
be a third part of. This so the annoying part
(26:53):
is that he did what ninety nine percent of people
do and then he kind of treated us as, fools
as if no one actually thought it was a shot
At Russell.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Wilson, yeah, WELL i mean that part is that's The
these aren't the droids you're looking, for, Right that's What
that's what felt. Like, YEAH i JUST i felt like
she shot At Russell. Wills, no, no, oh he's the
other quarterback with The. Giants, yeah out of. Here, YEAH
(27:23):
i used to coach him a couple of years. Ago,
yeah that feels like? Bullshit who?
Speaker 9 (27:28):
ELSE i think the nod to us who know it
was About Russell wilson's when he SAID i could see
where he might take it that, way like that was
that was him given a little, bit but very. Disappointing
so the annoying part about this next topic is That
i'm too old to know what the fuck this. Is
So Chris purfet the most educated person At Fox Sports.
(27:52):
Radio he's got like nine. Degrees, uh he's. Young he's
of the. YOUNGER i think he's in his. TWENTIES i
just turned, Thirty that's WHAT i. MET i think he's
in his, thirties maybe weight. Thirties he's a. Millennial, doug
you have a teenage. Son you coach players in their
late teens and early. Twenties Aman Ross Saint brown said
(28:16):
something on his podcast this. Week he was clarifying a
gesture that he made in a touchdown celebration On monday.
Night so he does the, touchdown he does the way
between two things gesture that kind of looks like a
guy like weighing two melons and making fun of, breasts
and he says six or seven sixth, seventh sixth, Seven
(28:38):
so he tries to explain it to his brother, here what.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
About your celebration? There what's up with?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That?
Speaker 11 (28:43):
Hey, yeah that's a little six. Seven you know that
was my six touchdowns going to that, game that was my,
Seven so it only made sense for me to hit
the six. Seven you, KNOW i know the kids loved.
IT i loved. It what what it? MEANS i still
have no clue what six to seven? Means but it's
just like six? Seven Accept do.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You have no idea what it? Means you can? Explain
do you know what it? Means? NO i MEAN i
thought you know WHAT i. MEAN i thought you knew
what it. Meant LIKE i thought that knows what it.
Means i'll someone comment in the converce. SESSION i didn't
know what that. MEANS i don't think there's a. Meaning
there's no it's just, okay we'll find. Out we'll find
out after.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
This SO i went down a rabbit hole to see
exactly what where this derived from where it? Began are
either of you up to speed on what this? Means
has anyone explained to, You doug what six seven means
and why the rage on?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
TikTok, nope no. Idea So i'm familiar with, it but
As i'm familiar with, IT i don't know what it.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Means as far AS i can, tell there is no,
meaning like by. Design they we we love using this
term brain rot and it's very much so we've rounded
back around To. Dadaism we've rounded back around to like
this is just a thing for the sake of a,
Thing like maybe once upon time there was a, meaning
but we've so stripped the meaning out of, it and
nobody cares what the meaning is. Anymore we're just doing. It,
(29:57):
YEAH i think that's probably the best description of. Heard
so the rabbit hole THAT i went down there is
something that goes back to one of the ball brothers
what's his name on edge And charlotte being six foot, seven,
yeah and then he did this thing where he is
six seven six eight thing and then he went back
and forth and all of a sudden it just took
(30:19):
off because it's a ball. Brother BUT i don't know
how it's become what it. Is and then you HAVE
nfl players doing it who can't even themselves explain what it.
Is it's it's really one of the true. Mysteries And
i'm glad we came to the conclusion that it means.
Nothing you've just watched a bunch of people do it on,
TikTok so you just want to do it. Yourself THAT'S i.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
MEAN i saw.
Speaker 12 (30:40):
It someone said it originated from a, rapper but THEN
i saw those lyrics And i'm LIKE i but, LIKE
i don't. KNOW i did art history and one of
my nine, degrees AND i appreciated it was about one
hundred years. Ago the term, dataism which is just nonsense
for the sake of. Nonsense there's a whole art style
of just. Absurdity and this is kind of what our
(31:01):
prevailing culture is with the internet, Now like this doesn't mean.
ANYTHING i don't think it's supposed to mean. Anything you're
just doing it because everyone else is doing it and
it's and like it triggered some part of your brain
where you just giggled a little.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
Bit so there you. GO i hope the listeners learned something.
Today so to talk a, viola he's been a circus
at the podium for two weeks and He Jalen, WATTLE
i guess didn't get any, targets or maybe one or
two targets On. Sunday So tua was asked Why Jalen,
wattle his best, receiver did not get many.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Targets, YEAH i think with with, that some of it
has to do with being able to see guys with
their guys also up front and our.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Guys And i'm not the tallest.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Guy in the back there, either so being able to
see and then you, know sometimes when that, happens you
don't want to just throw.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
It blindly and you got to.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Progress SO i think that that had some merit to
reasons as to why that happened for a.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
WHILE i have a. Theory dog you, know there's a
thing called quiet, quitting and then there's just blatantly trying
to get fired knowing you have a guaranteed. Contract it
just seems like his his just is maybe you said
last week he's not very, bright but like it almost
seems like he's intentionally trying to get. Released when you say,
IT i probably just didn't see. Him i'm not that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Tall, yeah that part, Is that part is odd right
where it is something that you can use against Him Kyler,
murray some of these other. Quarterbacks but forever there's been a. Pushbackup,
no they've been that tall their whole. Life they know
how to do, it AND i didn't think he said
(32:43):
it in a way in which it was he was
trying to be, funny he was being kind of matter of.
FACT i can't See you're, like well that's a. Problem
that's a. Problem.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
Yeah so to six, seven the mystery of six seven
And Sean payton being, DISAPPOINTING.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I think it's the mystery of sixty. Seven i'll tell you.
Why you have lots of people doing these six to
seven celebrations, whatever and no one actually knows what it, Means,
like what if it meant something really? Sinister what if
it meant six seven ways to have death To? America
we just got to go along with it because it's a,
(33:25):
trend and for that it's Annoy.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Why are we doing?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
THIS i do.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Because we.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Can we have the latest person on a hot mic
during a post game, Broadcast Victor Webbin, yama who had
an amazing season debut last night and then got a
little loose with it on the postgame.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Interview, well we worked for and All oliver's got our
own battles and struggle was in uh jack throwers out
and work fucking.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
Hunting this, summer so it's paying, off you, know all
dreams aren't allowed, now you.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Know i've just got to be back because after What i've,
lived if you made something.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Pretty, good WELL i could play for. You because we.
Can't that's it for the end The Modes. Podcast check
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