October 24, 2025 • 25 mins
Doug riffs about the NBA and the gambling scandal and how people might start watching the game through a different prism. Doug reacts to Rob Manfred's take on Vlad Guerrero Jr. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Dana White makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, this is the Doug Gottli Show ears in the
Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up, Doug Gottlib Shoe at the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeart Radio AaB Welcome, Welcome, welcome in. So here's the
problem with.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
With today.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And how it relates to Major League Baseball. Okay, so
this is a real thing. When you see a guy
hit fifty sixty home runs, when Shoe Heetani has three
home runs in a game, when Aaron Judge breaks Roger
Maris's home run record, When these things happen, it is
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very normal, very normal for any of us to go,
I do wonder if he did it clean.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I do want if he did it clean.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And because of it, you know, it just it takes
away from every baseball player, not just the ones who
were using steroids. I bring it up because last night
I'm watching the NBA and you had two absolute virtuosos
the fourth quarter and overtime with Steph Curry is the
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stuff of legend. Not to be outdone, you had Shay
Gildess Alexander granted free throw merchant of the of the
nth degree, but fifty five points in a win against
the Pacers. And it's not that those two guys are
guilty of steroids or they're obviously not guilty of trying
to get the under on a on their daily personal line.
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But the thing it, the most important thing to remember
or to think about, is that it's very normal human nature.
Is Hey, I do wonder if that game was on
the up and up. You wonder if the fouls, Well,
the Donneghie thing makes you think, okay, where the officials
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trying to help Oklahoma City? And then these latest allegations
are you're trying to figure out, all right, does the
other team does do the Pacers anybody in the Pacers
have shay Gilgess Alexander to hit the over for his
daily stats. That's a real reasonable thing to wonder. I
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don't for one second think that anything was nefarious in
either of those two games. But that's also because I
have a brain. I'm not constantly thinking conspiracy theories. And
I do believe that one of the good things about
the overall legalization of gambling is they can they can
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find out who's trying to who's trying to.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Rig a game.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It becomes pretty obvious to them. But the sinister part
of the gambling is one when you lose a bunch
of money, the thought that, Okay, now you're gonna have
to do something illicit in order to make it back.
In two how it affects everybody's overall watch of the sport.
I've never been a WW guy. I don't necessarily understand
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people that are, but they like the storylines. It's not
sports because sports outcome is not determined. It's not predetermined,
and when you mess with that, you mess with the
core of what sports is about. And I don't know
anybody who can't look at that story from yesterday and think,
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I just I just wonder, I just wonder. So you
watch baseball, you watch NFL football, And it's one of
the reasons why I have been so vociferous in people
who say football is rigged or something like, do you
understand what you're questioning in terms of credibility? It takes
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down the entire sport if that were in fact true,
the entire sport.
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Speaker 3 (04:17):
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Speaker 3 (04:27):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Their offensive line isn't very good. In fairness to Carson Wentz,
he got sacked, he got hit a lot last night,
an interception. Does it look like he's comfortable back there?
And I could understand that, but I think the bigger
picture here is the Vikings because JJ McCarthy haven't gotten
any updates yet on that high ankle spring, but he's
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been out for six weeks. And Carson Wentz is not
the answer. And this is where you can't help but
think that Sale Darnold has played well, and Danny Dimes
is playing well, and Kirk Cousins could have been available
to you to come back, and Aaron Rodgers flirted with you.
He chose a different direction. You chose a different direction.
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And I know that this is hindsight, but this is
a situation where you've got the best receiver in the game.
And I wonder at what point Justin Jefferson says, get
me out of here.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't know they made Justin Jefferson the highest paid
what i'd receive in the game. But I understand I
thought the same thing, like, are we wasting Justin Jefferson
with a quarterback who's not good enough. I think they
whiffed on this one. I'm right in line with Dan
on it. I haven't seen it yet. In fairness to
JJ McCarthy, he has been heard. He hasn't gotten the reps.
It is too early, but there are the returns of
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that great Here's Brady Quinn talking about the NBA gambling
scandal arrest of Johnson Phillips and Terry Rozier.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, here's where this doesn't hold up. And this is
where unfortunately, like many others who have opinions on this
whole matter, they're really inaccurate with with what's going on here.
There's been an investigation going on by the FBI for years.
I mean, if you look into this and it's wild
and I know, Jonas, you've got a ton of stuff
on this, but Terry Rozier individually, like this dates back
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to twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, that season, and
do you remember when he like there was the whole
speculation that he was tipping off someone about his individual
prop bet unders is that is that I have this right, Jones.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, March twenty twenty three, and he.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Ended up missing the entire rest of the season because
the NBA did their investigation and then the FBI was
still doing theirs, and they never they never finished.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
And the other part that I think is kind of
laughing when they started listing off the crime families.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
I like, Dean's got to know somebody.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
But when they were, when they were, you know, I
see people going out there, you know, saying stuff like, well,
I mean, what do you expect to be dg take
money from gambling. And ESPN's got a gambling logo on
the screen on the chiron. They've got to take it
off when they start talking about this skit, dude.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I just it has been a long time coming.
This is not something recent, and you know, the FBI
is nothing if not thorough with their investigation. I will
point out that we had one of these with college
basketball years ago, and we thought that this was going
to be the downfall of college athletics and it got
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of a bunch of assistant coaches. So we'll see, We'll
see what happens when there's an actual court hearing, actual
court documents and Chanceyhip is obviously the biggest name in
this one, but the idea of these prop bets being
a major factor are really interesting. Here's Rob Manfred. He
had this exchange with Nick Wright about Vlagrera Junior and
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the long history of legacy players in baseball.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
For me, in my life, I'm growing up the most
maybe the most notable ballplayer for a Canadian teams team
no longer exists, but Montreal Lexpo Vladimirica Guerrero Senior, who
was as a kid, it just seems so fun to
watch him because he was felt like he played the
game differently than everyone, but ball could bounce and he
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would still try to hit it for a home run.
His son is electric in a very different way, very
different body type, very different player, but just one ALCSMVP.
We see this now across all sports, but baseball of
course as well, where some of the greatest players are
either sons, nephews, brothers of other great players. How cool
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is that for you as the commissioner and in watching
what vlad has done this year, and you know the
family history, I.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Think if you go back and count and really look
at it, you know we have more father son, multiple
generation occurrences than any other sport. And I think it's
a great thing about baseball. It's something we're really proud of.
It makes for great storylines. And you know, I think
during the Fox broadcast, you know, they showed a lot
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of pictures of Vladdie Senior and and uh Junior when
he was just a kid. Really and you know, it's heartwarming.
I mean, it's just a great story.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
He also looks the exact same as a little kid. Yeah,
and he's on the Boba. Chev's father, Dante obviously was
a great It's just really cool.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, there's no question it's it's a very unique storyline.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I also thought.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That that Nick framed his dad correctly. His dad was
a thoroughly and you know, didn't say much, so it's
not like it was he was a quote machine, but
based about how he played, there was a uniqueness to
it and a likability to it. And of course he
was part of that last great Expos team, uh that
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that had a chance if not for the strike shortened season.
So there's a there's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
So so Doug, if I can correct the record, I
want to say, I think you were talking to Pierzinski
yesterday and you said, quote, Jay Stu hates nepos babies. Yeah,
that's not That's what was on my take. So just
for the record, and so I'm not mischaracterized. Moving forward
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with the Lebron brawny thing and the chaduur Dion thing,
I think it's been like a really bad year fors
NEPO babies. The expectations put on these nineteen twenty year
olds are just unfair, and they almost never live up
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to that kind of hype. And Vlad Guerrero has not
only like lived up to the hype, so he's like
exceeded it. He's he's putting up MVP numbers, he's delivering
in the postseason, and it's a great story because of that.
I love watching him. Plus, he's like a top five
guy that I'll stop what I'm doing to watch. He
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could at any point hit at five hundred feet. So yeah,
I hope he cools down considerably over the next ten days.
But I love the story.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know what's what's interesting is here's the difference. Vlad
Guerrero has never openly spoken about his son, whereas I
don't think the pressure has been put on by outsiders
without the pressure of lebron And and Dion.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, and that that leads to the hype.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, that's absolutely been a huge part of the hype.
Huge part of the hype is they've been uh, they've
been their hype men. So I think that's where that
comes from. I don't think like Michael Jordan's kids weren't
as good as Bronni, but part of the lack of
hype was he wasn't their hype man. He'd let them
kind of do their thing. And granted, you know, there's
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still one of them still in the news or whatever,
and not for the not for the good stuff. But
it's it's it's a fair point you bring up. I
was more teasing because you've pointed out time and again
or you said the words nepo baby uh previously, that's
what the Fox says say.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 3 (12:24):
Let's find out who what's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
Okay, So if you're doing the math, this week Steven A. Smith,
who has a platform on Sirius XM that is all politics,
and he often goes on political talk shows too. He
has this crazy he's kind of carved out, this strange
niche where he purports to be Democrat, but then he
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goes on right leaning platforms and shits on Democrats. It's
a really weird dynamic and people are starting to get
sick of it, namely Bacari Sellers and Michelle Obama and
Jasmine Crockett. Anyways, if you're doing them out. This week,
Stephen A. Smith did a ten minute apology to Texas
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Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. I don't need to go down that
rabbit hole. You could find it yourself. He also alienated
the right or the Trumpers yesterday with this.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We know what world did I live in?
Speaker 11 (13:36):
In terms of politics?
Speaker 12 (13:38):
How many times, for one incident after another have I
said Trump is coming? He's coming. I'm gonna say it
on national television again. Bad Bunny is performing at the
super Bowl, and all of a sudden, you hear in
Ice is gonna be there looking to engage in mass
deportations the super Bowl, disrupting things. Big night for the
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NBA when Beyonna put on a show that has now
been smeared because we're talking about this story. Okay, remember
Trump has a long, long history connected to the world
of sports because he had those casinos. Way do you
think folks will come in half the time? I'm not
talking about individuals. I'm talking about the culture. When people
want to want to go to a casino, when people
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want to gamble, when people want to party, or whatever
the case may be. This was his kind of connection
to that.
Speaker 13 (14:27):
Why am I glad you're here, Monica, because don't be
surprised that the w n b A is next on
his list, because when you've got all of these protests
that have been going out there and people that have
been protesting against him and what have you, this man
is coming.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
My favorite part of that bite is by far Monica
McNutt just doing that.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I will say this, there's a Steven A. Smith is is.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
I don't know if he's he doesn't want to find
a lane. Maybe he does, he backtracks and apologizes after
he steps in it. This is what political talk is
all about. And you really can't half ask political talk.
You either need to do it for a living or
don't do it. But doing this half thing where you're
getting paid ten million bucks to do sports and then
you're also doing politics, good luck with that. But this
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was universally criticized, and I'm talking about both sides of
the aisle. Watching CNN last night, a Democrat says, specifically,
we need to be worried about what Trump's doing with
the Constitution. We need to be worried about what Trump
is doing with the courts. Having this is misplaced anger,
Like he's not targeting sports. These aren't things that he
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would care that much about to do. And again, obviously
the entire right side of the political spectrum was very offended.
But I don't know what Stephen A Is trying to
do here.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Again, it's one of those things I think you said
it really well yesterday where you are basically, I'll condense
it where if you try to please everybody, you please nobody.
And I don't know if he's trying to antagonize everybody
or trying to appease everybody, But whatever he's doing, it
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takes him farther from it being a reality that he
could win any sort of political seat.
Speaker 10 (16:26):
Yeah, if that's but he has consistently denied that he's
going to do that. That's another weird thing. He talks
out of both sides of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
He just likes, I'm not going.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
To do anything.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
I'm not going to enter government, but I'm going to
keep the door open so that all these shows could
keep putting me on to correct beloviate about something I
know about half of what I should know.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, you are completely correct.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
In the history of this segment. If someone we're tallying
the number of times certain people were in this segment,
I think Steven A. Smith would top that, but a
close second would be Tyreek Hill. Somebody was interested enough
to put them on a podcast, easily one of the
less intelligent people we've ever had in sports. They keep
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giving them platforms, and they asked them the question is
this injury. Has this injury led you to believe about
maybe you played your last down in football?
Speaker 14 (17:24):
That decision is all based upon how I feel and
where my mindset is at the moment. I'm happy with
being with my kids, I'm happy with the career that
I've had, and I love playing football. I love it, man,
But it takes a lot, takes a lot on you mentally,
takes a lot on you physically, and I'm at the
point now where I'm just like, I need to have
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a conversation with mom, family, everybody, like wherever my mind
is at the time the decision to be made. But
I just know right now I haven't had time to
just live in a moment.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
I think if we just started to make me think
of what Tyreek Kills legacy is going to be, Tyreek
Hills legacy, I think starts and begins with he was
convicted of domestic abuse in college, or he pled to
something smaller than the charge in college, striking a woman.
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And then his wife has accused him of domestic assault,
so he's a wife, Peter, and who knows what he's
done in between. That's probably first and foremost as legacy.
The second thing he's known for is he has fornicated
and he has put offspring of upwards of twelve or
thirteen kids into the country that are going to be fatherless,
who probably be financially responsible for them, but they will
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not have a present everyday father. That probably should be
the second part of his legacy. And then the third
is this playing career where he chose to leave a
team that would go on to win at least two
Super Bowls, maybe three. I forget how many they've racked
up since he left.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Too.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
He chose, he forced that, he forced them to get
rid of him. And then I'll just let Randy Moss
on this stuff. I brought this up over the summer.
Randy Moss did an interview for the South Florida Sun Sentinel.
You could look it up. They asked him where does
Tyreek Hill fit all time on receivers list? And Randy
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Moss says, He's nowhere all time.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, like, Tyreek Hill is going to be one of
those guys that super talented, but there is really no
legacy other than there was a moment there where he
was the most dynamic player in the league and I thought,
you know, off the field, bad decisions, lack of personal
self discipline is really what I ended up getting him.
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And so he'll go down as really talented guy, but
not a Hall of famer, Hall of fame talent, but
not not hall of fame in terms of managing personal business.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
So something up in yesterday that I want to say,
Yankee fans and Dodger fans were really anticipating and looking
forward to I don't think the rest of the sports
world really cares. I think you've been on record saying
you're not impacted by this. But George Springer took questions
for forty five minutes, and someone had the bass to
ask him about the cheating scandal. You're playing in a
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World Series against the team that you cheated out of
a World Series eight years ago. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You know?
Speaker 10 (20:29):
So he did a lot of gymnastics, I think he said.
When they said what do you think about going back
to Dodger Stadium, he says, I mean, at the end
of the day, I have a job to do. I
have a game to focus on. So that's kind of
the plan. I don't have a choice of going there
or not. The focus will be on the game, to
play the game the best I can. And then he
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was specifically asked about the scandal, and he says, you know,
that's in the past.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
This is about the now.
Speaker 10 (20:58):
I've first from a lot of guys, you know, up
and down, all over the place. So he's trying to
not answer questions. I have a feeling when the series
goes back down, wigh, maybe somebody like Bill Plashki, we'll
get some answers out of him.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Cody Bellinger is known for a lot of things. He
won the MVP, he had a massive home run in
the twenty twenty COVID series. But I think Dodger fans
are universal in this. Cody Bellinger's best moment as a
Dodger was when he was asked in the In the
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days following Rob Manfred's quote unquote punishment of the Astros
and the scandal and the details came out, Cody Bellinger
was in the clubhouse and he said this.
Speaker 15 (21:48):
I thought man Fred's punishment was weak, given him immunity.
I mean, these guys were cheating for three years, you know.
I think what people don't realize is I'll two stole
an MVP from Judge in seventeen. Everyone knows they stole
the ring from us. I don't know what human hits
a walk off home run against rold As Chapman to
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send your team to the World Series, and one has
the thought to say, don't rip my jersey off, but
to go in the tunnel, change your shirt and then
come out and do your interview like that. That makes
no sense to me. It makes zero sense to me
because I know me. Gary Sanders said, he yes, say
you can rip my shirt off, my pants off, I
sent my team in the World Series off for Rallis
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Chapman and the night then he at home. I'm going crazy.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
So I think the annoying part is is that it
looks like George Bringer is trying to kick this can
down the road and he thinks he can go the
next ten days without compelling himself to apologize to Dodger fans.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Wait, wait, Jason, did you say kick the can down
the road?
Speaker 10 (22:48):
You mean like the trash can, right, kick the trash
can down the road?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Look what he did there?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Boom?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I you know, yes, you're you're annoyed at what I know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What we all know is gonna happen is that it
will not be brought up at all at all during
the World Series.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Correct, No, it was brought up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, during the World Series. I think when in the
actual games, like, no, one's going to talk about that
tainted World Series when they look back at George Springer's
MVP run in the World Series, like that won't be
mentioned and that will not sit well with Jason Stewart
or in the your opinion, most Dodger fans.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
Correct, Maybe I think when the series comes back to
the Dodgers. When when it comes back to the stadium,
I'm hoping somebody of Bill Plotsky's ilk will ask him
some pointed questions get answers.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's about the twenty seven different ways in which he cheated.
So I had to pick out who's the most annoying.
I mean, I think Steven A. Smith's most annoying, and
it's it's he's most annoying because he has this check
gigantic platform.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
And he's general.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
He's like the last of the Mohicans to stay around ESPN,
and they gave in to his every demand, and yet
he still wants to do his own thing, wants to
do politics. And then it's the same style in which
he preps his takes for sports, which is all opinion
based on no fact and just kind of what he
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thinks and maybe kind of a passing mention from somebody
that he thinks is smart.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It just looks sloppy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And when you're sloppy and you make enough mistakes, eventually
you would think you lose your credibility.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But for some reason people to keep having him on.
So I guess he is not. It's a nut.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I do.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Because we can.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
I would say that Dana White is a gift to
this segment. If I ever need someone who's more than
willing to drop f bombs and say something interesting, how
about this. Dana White did a podcast recently and he
was talking about why everybody should partake in MMA.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
You can do two things. You can run and fucking
hide crow up in a ball and let the world
just fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig
your fucking heels in. You figure out how to you know,
you have to figure out yourself, and then you fucking
dig in, you fight.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I love it. I mean, I like Dana.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm excited a big card this weekend, and I don't
know if we want everybody to do an MMA nonetheless,
why could play it for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. I got the
radio show every day three to five Eastern Tell two Pacific,
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Speaker 3 (25:49):
iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlieb
Alright, this is the Doug Gottli Show ears in the
Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up, Doug Gottlib Shoe at the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeart Radio AaB Welcome, Welcome, welcome in. So here's the
problem with.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
With today.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And how it relates to Major League Baseball. Okay, so
this is a real thing. When you see a guy
hit fifty sixty home runs, when Shoe Heetani has three
home runs in a game, when Aaron Judge breaks Roger
Maris's home run record, When these things happen, it is
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very normal, very normal for any of us to go,
I do wonder if he did it clean.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I do want if he did it clean.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And because of it, you know, it just it takes
away from every baseball player, not just the ones who
were using steroids. I bring it up because last night
I'm watching the NBA and you had two absolute virtuosos
the fourth quarter and overtime with Steph Curry is the
(01:23):
stuff of legend. Not to be outdone, you had Shay
Gildess Alexander granted free throw merchant of the of the
nth degree, but fifty five points in a win against
the Pacers. And it's not that those two guys are
guilty of steroids or they're obviously not guilty of trying
to get the under on a on their daily personal line.
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But the thing it, the most important thing to remember
or to think about, is that it's very normal human nature.
Is Hey, I do wonder if that game was on
the up and up. You wonder if the fouls, Well,
the Donneghie thing makes you think, okay, where the officials
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trying to help Oklahoma City? And then these latest allegations
are you're trying to figure out, all right, does the
other team does do the Pacers anybody in the Pacers
have shay Gilgess Alexander to hit the over for his
daily stats. That's a real reasonable thing to wonder. I
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don't for one second think that anything was nefarious in
either of those two games. But that's also because I
have a brain. I'm not constantly thinking conspiracy theories. And
I do believe that one of the good things about
the overall legalization of gambling is they can they can
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find out who's trying to who's trying to.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Rig a game.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It becomes pretty obvious to them. But the sinister part
of the gambling is one when you lose a bunch
of money, the thought that, Okay, now you're gonna have
to do something illicit in order to make it back.
In two how it affects everybody's overall watch of the sport.
I've never been a WW guy. I don't necessarily understand
(03:20):
people that are, but they like the storylines. It's not
sports because sports outcome is not determined. It's not predetermined,
and when you mess with that, you mess with the
core of what sports is about. And I don't know
anybody who can't look at that story from yesterday and think,
(03:41):
I just I just wonder, I just wonder. So you
watch baseball, you watch NFL football, And it's one of
the reasons why I have been so vociferous in people
who say football is rigged or something like, do you
understand what you're questioning in terms of credibility? It takes
(04:03):
down the entire sport if that were in fact true,
the entire sport.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
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Speaker 3 (04:17):
Let get the Fox US and Now.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Say every day this time in the Bonus podcast to
play for your portion of previous show, Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Their offensive line isn't very good. In fairness to Carson Wentz,
he got sacked, he got hit a lot last night,
an interception. Does it look like he's comfortable back there?
And I could understand that, but I think the bigger
picture here is the Vikings because JJ McCarthy haven't gotten
any updates yet on that high ankle spring, but he's
(04:51):
been out for six weeks. And Carson Wentz is not
the answer. And this is where you can't help but
think that Sale Darnold has played well, and Danny Dimes
is playing well, and Kirk Cousins could have been available
to you to come back, and Aaron Rodgers flirted with you.
He chose a different direction. You chose a different direction.
(05:13):
And I know that this is hindsight, but this is
a situation where you've got the best receiver in the game.
And I wonder at what point Justin Jefferson says, get
me out of here.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't know they made Justin Jefferson the highest paid
what i'd receive in the game. But I understand I
thought the same thing, like, are we wasting Justin Jefferson
with a quarterback who's not good enough. I think they
whiffed on this one. I'm right in line with Dan
on it. I haven't seen it yet. In fairness to
JJ McCarthy, he has been heard. He hasn't gotten the reps.
It is too early, but there are the returns of
(05:50):
that great Here's Brady Quinn talking about the NBA gambling
scandal arrest of Johnson Phillips and Terry Rozier.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, here's where this doesn't hold up. And this is
where unfortunately, like many others who have opinions on this
whole matter, they're really inaccurate with with what's going on here.
There's been an investigation going on by the FBI for years.
I mean, if you look into this and it's wild
and I know, Jonas, you've got a ton of stuff
on this, but Terry Rozier individually, like this dates back
(06:20):
to twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, that season, and
do you remember when he like there was the whole
speculation that he was tipping off someone about his individual
prop bet unders is that is that I have this right, Jones.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, March twenty twenty three, and he.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Ended up missing the entire rest of the season because
the NBA did their investigation and then the FBI was
still doing theirs, and they never they never finished.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
And the other part that I think is kind of
laughing when they started listing off the crime families.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
I like, Dean's got to know somebody.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
But when they were, when they were, you know, I
see people going out there, you know, saying stuff like, well,
I mean, what do you expect to be dg take
money from gambling. And ESPN's got a gambling logo on
the screen on the chiron. They've got to take it
off when they start talking about this skit, dude.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I just it has been a long time coming.
This is not something recent, and you know, the FBI
is nothing if not thorough with their investigation. I will
point out that we had one of these with college
basketball years ago, and we thought that this was going
to be the downfall of college athletics and it got
(07:32):
of a bunch of assistant coaches. So we'll see, We'll
see what happens when there's an actual court hearing, actual
court documents and Chanceyhip is obviously the biggest name in
this one, but the idea of these prop bets being
a major factor are really interesting. Here's Rob Manfred. He
had this exchange with Nick Wright about Vlagrera Junior and
(07:54):
the long history of legacy players in baseball.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
For me, in my life, I'm growing up the most
maybe the most notable ballplayer for a Canadian teams team
no longer exists, but Montreal Lexpo Vladimirica Guerrero Senior, who
was as a kid, it just seems so fun to
watch him because he was felt like he played the
game differently than everyone, but ball could bounce and he
(08:18):
would still try to hit it for a home run.
His son is electric in a very different way, very
different body type, very different player, but just one ALCSMVP.
We see this now across all sports, but baseball of
course as well, where some of the greatest players are
either sons, nephews, brothers of other great players. How cool
(08:40):
is that for you as the commissioner and in watching
what vlad has done this year, and you know the
family history, I.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Think if you go back and count and really look
at it, you know we have more father son, multiple
generation occurrences than any other sport. And I think it's
a great thing about baseball. It's something we're really proud of.
It makes for great storylines. And you know, I think
during the Fox broadcast, you know, they showed a lot
(09:08):
of pictures of Vladdie Senior and and uh Junior when
he was just a kid. Really and you know, it's heartwarming.
I mean, it's just a great story.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
He also looks the exact same as a little kid. Yeah,
and he's on the Boba. Chev's father, Dante obviously was
a great It's just really cool.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, there's no question it's it's a very unique storyline.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I also thought.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That that Nick framed his dad correctly. His dad was
a thoroughly and you know, didn't say much, so it's
not like it was he was a quote machine, but
based about how he played, there was a uniqueness to
it and a likability to it. And of course he
was part of that last great Expos team, uh that
(09:53):
that had a chance if not for the strike shortened season.
So there's a there's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
So so Doug, if I can correct the record, I
want to say, I think you were talking to Pierzinski
yesterday and you said, quote, Jay Stu hates nepos babies. Yeah,
that's not That's what was on my take. So just
for the record, and so I'm not mischaracterized. Moving forward
(10:20):
with the Lebron brawny thing and the chaduur Dion thing,
I think it's been like a really bad year fors
NEPO babies. The expectations put on these nineteen twenty year
olds are just unfair, and they almost never live up
(10:41):
to that kind of hype. And Vlad Guerrero has not
only like lived up to the hype, so he's like
exceeded it. He's he's putting up MVP numbers, he's delivering
in the postseason, and it's a great story because of that.
I love watching him. Plus, he's like a top five
guy that I'll stop what I'm doing to watch. He
(11:02):
could at any point hit at five hundred feet. So yeah,
I hope he cools down considerably over the next ten days.
But I love the story.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know what's what's interesting is here's the difference. Vlad
Guerrero has never openly spoken about his son, whereas I
don't think the pressure has been put on by outsiders
without the pressure of lebron And and Dion.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, and that that leads to the hype.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, that's absolutely been a huge part of the hype.
Huge part of the hype is they've been uh, they've
been their hype men. So I think that's where that
comes from. I don't think like Michael Jordan's kids weren't
as good as Bronni, but part of the lack of
hype was he wasn't their hype man. He'd let them
kind of do their thing. And granted, you know, there's
(11:55):
still one of them still in the news or whatever,
and not for the not for the good stuff. But
it's it's it's a fair point you bring up. I
was more teasing because you've pointed out time and again
or you said the words nepo baby uh previously, that's
what the Fox says say.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Let's find out who what's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
Okay, So if you're doing the math, this week Steven A. Smith,
who has a platform on Sirius XM that is all politics,
and he often goes on political talk shows too. He
has this crazy he's kind of carved out, this strange
niche where he purports to be Democrat, but then he
(12:59):
goes on right leaning platforms and shits on Democrats. It's
a really weird dynamic and people are starting to get
sick of it, namely Bacari Sellers and Michelle Obama and
Jasmine Crockett. Anyways, if you're doing them out. This week,
Stephen A. Smith did a ten minute apology to Texas
(13:22):
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. I don't need to go down that
rabbit hole. You could find it yourself. He also alienated
the right or the Trumpers yesterday with this.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We know what world did I live in?
Speaker 11 (13:36):
In terms of politics?
Speaker 12 (13:38):
How many times, for one incident after another have I
said Trump is coming? He's coming. I'm gonna say it
on national television again. Bad Bunny is performing at the
super Bowl, and all of a sudden, you hear in
Ice is gonna be there looking to engage in mass
deportations the super Bowl, disrupting things. Big night for the
(14:01):
NBA when Beyonna put on a show that has now
been smeared because we're talking about this story. Okay, remember
Trump has a long, long history connected to the world
of sports because he had those casinos. Way do you
think folks will come in half the time? I'm not
talking about individuals. I'm talking about the culture. When people
want to want to go to a casino, when people
(14:22):
want to gamble, when people want to party, or whatever
the case may be. This was his kind of connection
to that.
Speaker 13 (14:27):
Why am I glad you're here, Monica, because don't be
surprised that the w n b A is next on
his list, because when you've got all of these protests
that have been going out there and people that have
been protesting against him and what have you, this man
is coming.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
My favorite part of that bite is by far Monica
McNutt just doing that.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
I will say this, there's a Steven A. Smith is is.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
I don't know if he's he doesn't want to find
a lane. Maybe he does, he backtracks and apologizes after
he steps in it. This is what political talk is
all about. And you really can't half ask political talk.
You either need to do it for a living or
don't do it. But doing this half thing where you're
getting paid ten million bucks to do sports and then
you're also doing politics, good luck with that. But this
(15:16):
was universally criticized, and I'm talking about both sides of
the aisle. Watching CNN last night, a Democrat says, specifically,
we need to be worried about what Trump's doing with
the Constitution. We need to be worried about what Trump
is doing with the courts. Having this is misplaced anger,
Like he's not targeting sports. These aren't things that he
(15:38):
would care that much about to do. And again, obviously
the entire right side of the political spectrum was very offended.
But I don't know what Stephen A Is trying to
do here.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Again, it's one of those things I think you said
it really well yesterday where you are basically, I'll condense
it where if you try to please everybody, you please nobody.
And I don't know if he's trying to antagonize everybody
or trying to appease everybody, But whatever he's doing, it
(16:19):
takes him farther from it being a reality that he
could win any sort of political seat.
Speaker 10 (16:26):
Yeah, if that's but he has consistently denied that he's
going to do that. That's another weird thing. He talks
out of both sides of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
He just likes, I'm not going.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
To do anything.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
I'm not going to enter government, but I'm going to
keep the door open so that all these shows could
keep putting me on to correct beloviate about something I
know about half of what I should know.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, you are completely correct.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
In the history of this segment. If someone we're tallying
the number of times certain people were in this segment,
I think Steven A. Smith would top that, but a
close second would be Tyreek Hill. Somebody was interested enough
to put them on a podcast, easily one of the
less intelligent people we've ever had in sports. They keep
(17:14):
giving them platforms, and they asked them the question is
this injury. Has this injury led you to believe about
maybe you played your last down in football?
Speaker 14 (17:24):
That decision is all based upon how I feel and
where my mindset is at the moment. I'm happy with
being with my kids, I'm happy with the career that
I've had, and I love playing football. I love it, man,
But it takes a lot, takes a lot on you mentally,
takes a lot on you physically, and I'm at the
point now where I'm just like, I need to have
(17:44):
a conversation with mom, family, everybody, like wherever my mind
is at the time the decision to be made. But
I just know right now I haven't had time to
just live in a moment.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
I think if we just started to make me think
of what Tyreek Kills legacy is going to be, Tyreek
Hills legacy, I think starts and begins with he was
convicted of domestic abuse in college, or he pled to
something smaller than the charge in college, striking a woman.
(18:21):
And then his wife has accused him of domestic assault,
so he's a wife, Peter, and who knows what he's
done in between. That's probably first and foremost as legacy.
The second thing he's known for is he has fornicated
and he has put offspring of upwards of twelve or
thirteen kids into the country that are going to be fatherless,
who probably be financially responsible for them, but they will
(18:45):
not have a present everyday father. That probably should be
the second part of his legacy. And then the third
is this playing career where he chose to leave a
team that would go on to win at least two
Super Bowls, maybe three. I forget how many they've racked
up since he left.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Too.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
He chose, he forced that, he forced them to get
rid of him. And then I'll just let Randy Moss
on this stuff. I brought this up over the summer.
Randy Moss did an interview for the South Florida Sun Sentinel.
You could look it up. They asked him where does
Tyreek Hill fit all time on receivers list? And Randy
(19:23):
Moss says, He's nowhere all time.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, like, Tyreek Hill is going to be one of
those guys that super talented, but there is really no
legacy other than there was a moment there where he
was the most dynamic player in the league and I thought,
you know, off the field, bad decisions, lack of personal
self discipline is really what I ended up getting him.
(19:46):
And so he'll go down as really talented guy, but
not a Hall of famer, Hall of fame talent, but
not not hall of fame in terms of managing personal business.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
So something up in yesterday that I want to say,
Yankee fans and Dodger fans were really anticipating and looking
forward to I don't think the rest of the sports
world really cares. I think you've been on record saying
you're not impacted by this. But George Springer took questions
for forty five minutes, and someone had the bass to
ask him about the cheating scandal. You're playing in a
(20:23):
World Series against the team that you cheated out of
a World Series eight years ago. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (20:29):
You know?
Speaker 10 (20:29):
So he did a lot of gymnastics, I think he said.
When they said what do you think about going back
to Dodger Stadium, he says, I mean, at the end
of the day, I have a job to do. I
have a game to focus on. So that's kind of
the plan. I don't have a choice of going there
or not. The focus will be on the game, to
play the game the best I can. And then he
(20:51):
was specifically asked about the scandal, and he says, you know,
that's in the past.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
This is about the now.
Speaker 10 (20:58):
I've first from a lot of guys, you know, up
and down, all over the place. So he's trying to
not answer questions. I have a feeling when the series
goes back down, wigh, maybe somebody like Bill Plashki, we'll
get some answers out of him.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Cody Bellinger is known for a lot of things. He
won the MVP, he had a massive home run in
the twenty twenty COVID series. But I think Dodger fans
are universal in this. Cody Bellinger's best moment as a
Dodger was when he was asked in the In the
(21:35):
days following Rob Manfred's quote unquote punishment of the Astros
and the scandal and the details came out, Cody Bellinger
was in the clubhouse and he said this.
Speaker 15 (21:48):
I thought man Fred's punishment was weak, given him immunity.
I mean, these guys were cheating for three years, you know.
I think what people don't realize is I'll two stole
an MVP from Judge in seventeen. Everyone knows they stole
the ring from us. I don't know what human hits
a walk off home run against rold As Chapman to
(22:09):
send your team to the World Series, and one has
the thought to say, don't rip my jersey off, but
to go in the tunnel, change your shirt and then
come out and do your interview like that. That makes
no sense to me. It makes zero sense to me
because I know me. Gary Sanders said, he yes, say
you can rip my shirt off, my pants off, I
sent my team in the World Series off for Rallis
(22:30):
Chapman and the night then he at home. I'm going crazy.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
So I think the annoying part is is that it
looks like George Bringer is trying to kick this can
down the road and he thinks he can go the
next ten days without compelling himself to apologize to Dodger fans.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Wait, wait, Jason, did you say kick the can down
the road?
Speaker 10 (22:48):
You mean like the trash can, right, kick the trash
can down the road?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Look what he did there?
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Boom?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I you know, yes, you're you're annoyed at what I know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What we all know is gonna happen is that it
will not be brought up at all at all during
the World Series.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Correct, No, it was brought up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, during the World Series. I think when in the
actual games, like, no, one's going to talk about that
tainted World Series when they look back at George Springer's
MVP run in the World Series, like that won't be
mentioned and that will not sit well with Jason Stewart
or in the your opinion, most Dodger fans.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
Correct, Maybe I think when the series comes back to
the Dodgers. When when it comes back to the stadium,
I'm hoping somebody of Bill Plotsky's ilk will ask him
some pointed questions get answers.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's about the twenty seven different ways in which he cheated.
So I had to pick out who's the most annoying.
I mean, I think Steven A. Smith's most annoying, and
it's it's he's most annoying because he has this check
gigantic platform.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
And he's general.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
He's like the last of the Mohicans to stay around ESPN,
and they gave in to his every demand, and yet
he still wants to do his own thing, wants to
do politics. And then it's the same style in which
he preps his takes for sports, which is all opinion
based on no fact and just kind of what he
(24:29):
thinks and maybe kind of a passing mention from somebody
that he thinks is smart.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It just looks sloppy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And when you're sloppy and you make enough mistakes, eventually
you would think you lose your credibility.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But for some reason people to keep having him on.
So I guess he is not. It's a nut.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I do.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Because we can.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
I would say that Dana White is a gift to
this segment. If I ever need someone who's more than
willing to drop f bombs and say something interesting, how
about this. Dana White did a podcast recently and he
was talking about why everybody should partake in MMA.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
You can do two things. You can run and fucking
hide crow up in a ball and let the world
just fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig
your fucking heels in. You figure out how to you know,
you have to figure out yourself, and then you fucking
dig in, you fight.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I love it. I mean, I like Dana.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm excited a big card this weekend, and I don't
know if we want everybody to do an MMA nonetheless,
why could play it for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. I got the
radio show every day three to five Eastern Tell two Pacific,
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
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