October 27, 2025 • 22 mins
Doug goes off on all of the head coach firings in college football. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on the Packers and Steelers. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Tom Brady makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus
with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. So I don't hate telling you
I told you so, but I told you so and
my own man. It's like, I'm not picking on my
all of a monitor because I love the place, but
I'm picking on my own manor because.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I was right all along.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So LSU fires Brian Kelly, Arkansas has already fired their coach.
Florida inspired their coach, you know, Penn State obviously has
fired James Franklin. There's going to be more to come.
I think it's fascinating though, all these coaches that have
gotten fired and.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My own monitor goes from like thinking, hey, we can
hand pick this guy, that guy, the other guy. Meanwhile,
I don't know what happens with David Randa at Baylor.
I don't know we know what happens with some of
these other jobs. But more jobs are gonna come up.
In UCLA's already obviously come up. But I do think
Oklahoma State's a better job than UCLA. We can get
into that is why maybe in this podcast or later show,
(01:11):
but the premise that some people went on was, hey,
we want to be first in the market.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We can be ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Like, it doesn't work that way, right, LSU is whether
it's at the very last moment or whether they have
a six month lead up, it's a better job, better
resources people, multiple coaches that want national championships. There, there's
players there, there's money there. It's the SEC which is
going to print money. It's not close. All the SEC
jobs are better, the Penn State jobs better. Now, it
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doesn't mean you can't get a really good coach, and
it doesn't mean that you can't do your due diligence
said that wanting to move on from a coach if
you think it's like whatever, but it's just such it's
so dumb, and this idea that you can't fire a
coach if maybe he wins a couple of games late, Like, no,
first of all, you don't have to fire a guy
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just because he lost some games. And you can fire
him if you're gonna pay him the payout, you can
you fire wherever we want. But the idea of firing
a guy three weeks into the season. Makes no sense,
especially when your whole logic behind it was we can
be first in the market, that can put us ahead
of some schools. It does not work that way, and
the perfect example is LSU Arkansas, Florida Right Way Ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Every day, this time and in the Bonus podcast or
play for your previous portion of Fox Sports Radio Fox
Sports One Show. Here's Brady Quinn from Two Pros to
Couple Joe talking about former Notre Dame head coach and
now former LSU head coach Brian Kelly.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
A lot of Notre Dame fans witnessed and saws they
always felt like there was more room for him to
do more in recruiting and all of that. Morgus Freeman
has without a doubt proven that since he's taken over
as head coach, with the way he's grinded, the way
he's recruited and built their roster at Notre Dame. For
Brian Kelly, it's actually been the exact opposite of what
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I think LSU fans were getting. Not only did it
not get enough wins in the win column in comparison
to ed Orgeron or even less Miles than their first
four years, but also if you look at the recruiting
rankings like they've they've legitimately had taken a step back.
If you go through the first four years of Brian
Kelly's recruiting tenure, or I guess it's four years he's
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it was at LSU, they were averaging about eight point
five as far as their team recruiting ranks. This is
for high school student athletes. And again it's you can't
use anio and the transfer portal because obviously at Orgeron,
less Miles didn't have that. Brian Kelly's only had one
top five class in the four years he's been there. Now,
his transfer portal class was the best of any of
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this offseason.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But I'm always a.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Leery of like throwing that out there sometimes because it
doesn't necessarily always equate to wins. It just means you
bought enough players who are talented enough and have been
proven enough. But you know, obviously the team they're leaving
either doesn't have the funds to keep them or they
don't want to pay him to keep them.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Like, let's be real about that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Brady's actually contradicting himself in a massive way, but he's
not allowing himself. Like I think Marcus Freeman's awesome, but
Marcus Freeman has been freed up by the fact that
Notre Dame has shit tons of money and Notre Dame
never played the transfer game before and now they play
the transfer game, and that's how they've gotten there. That's
until this year. That's how they've gotten their quarterbacks, you know.
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So yeah, I mean to pick apart his high school
recruiting is sorry, Brady, it's not it doesn't fucking matter.
It's just are you getting players? And they got they
they went full portal and like he said, and this
is where Brady is right. Where there's a mis rate,
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there's a mis rate with high school kids as well.
The mis rate is just more costly with portal kids.
I think that's what's happened is you know, you get
a team and you don't you're not recruiting. You're recruiting
the most talented players, but not necessarily the best fits
and Brian was a weird fit for LSU. Anyway, So
(05:26):
I think Notre Dame is probably a little bit better place,
but I don't think it's because because of recruiting. You know,
are they recruiting well Notre Dame. Yeah, they're also still
recruiting high school kids, and they have lots and lots
and lots of fucking money. And I do think that
Freeman has dug in on the high school and then
they're paying to keep their kids. LSU decided, hey, we're
going to the portal. Here's the other thing. It's fucking hard.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
In the SEC.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's fucking easy when you're at Notre Dame. I mean, like,
what do we actually we're actually comparing in things that
you can't compare.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Let me help you understand.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, So LSU is in a league where everybody is
buying guys, everybody. It's unbelievably difficult. So yeah, they don't
have as good as high school players because they used
to most likely be a little bit a dirty program. Okay,
their losses, they have three losses here, Ole miss really good,
Vanderbilt really good, A and M really fucking good. They
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beaten Florida, they beat Clemson at Clemson, they beat South Carolina.
They have Bama next in Arkansas, then wester Kentucky, than Oklahoma,
and if Brian Kelly was still the coach, they probably
beat Oklahoma. They probably lose to Alabama, and they have
four losses on the year, which seems unconscionable, but you
know what, that's actually that's pretty good for the SEC.
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Fucking SEC is hard man, really really hard. Here is
Dan Byer and former Jets player Kerry Rhodes talk about
the Jets getting their first win.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
This says, yesterday, right after it.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Happened, Justin Fields looked like the old Justin I don't
know if that's a good EVAD thing.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I don't know either.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Breece Hall looked like the old bris Hall. Today is
your New York Jets. And if you ever see any
of our clips that we put on social media or
have Carrie's Fast Times, we decorate our studio with helmets
in today, but the Jets helmet front and center for
a lot of reasons. We start with win number one
today in Cincinnati, a comeback thirty nine, thirty eight victory
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over the Bengals to get Numero Uno.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
What a day for the Jets.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
I mean for Justin Fields to have taken the public backlash,
the outcry from the owner, Woodie Johnson, and all those
words that were coming out throughout the week, for him
to keep his composure, keep his faith. He's a big
faith guy, and come out with without your number one
receiver and Garrett Wilson, and to distribute the ball the
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way he did, and to look confident the way he did.
And even in this game, this game was, you know,
seemed like it was out of reach and seemed like
it was going to be a blowout. There were times
where the Bengals at complete control of the game, but
they kept fighting. Justin Fields is a fighter, and we
I think we could all say that right now. And
it's just it always comes to the point of when
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the chips are down, what are you gonna do when
everything's against you, when everybody's against you? Are you gonna
come out and fight or lay down? This team came
out in fault.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They did. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Let me make a decision, Like, hey, all the other stuff,
the Justin Feel's stuff. I just don't think he's good
enough as a passer. And I think that's a general consensus,
and it's based upon four years of data, but it
is a great story for a week. Here's Colin Cowherd
talking without the Packs the Packers win over the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Jordan loves second half on the road, standalone game against
maybe a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense
that's as good as second half and that spot as
Farvan Rogers had he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy.
Combine that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the Green
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Bay smart front office. This is going to be a
super Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum.
And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. I
watched a game between the Packers and the Steelers, and
I saw smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise,
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And then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these
are two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the
opposite ideology. Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to
put some makeup on this organization, but they need a facelift.
Two iconic franchises, one of them has embraced offense, one
as an old quarterback, one as a young star. One
(09:48):
is loaded with young talent at wide receiver and tight end.
The other spends a fortune on defense.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and I don't think their defense is all that good,
but remember that it does feel like the Steelers were
kind of all in on this year and if it
doesn't work out that they will clean they will clean house.
And I also think, like, look, when they changed GMS
a couple of years ago, you're changing gentlemenager philosophies. So
they still haven't figured out the quarterback position long term,
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and until they do, it's always going to set them back,
always going to hold them back. I was going to
hold them back, by the way. Here's here's a little
bonus one. Here's Terry Bradshaw. He said this on the
set of Fox NFL Sunday yesterday. But the thing that
I would worry about more so in Washington is at
the end of the day, I text Andy Reid and
I got a text back, and I thought.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
It was Andy Reid, but it's some guys selling pigs.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But I sounded good.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I didn't.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
What Yeah, yeah, which means blindly so listened by a
pig farmer.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Apparently Andy Reid has a new number and his old
number is that of a pig farmer.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I guess that's what I've read that the other way.
I think that I think Terry Brawdshaw has Andy Reid's
cell number. I also think Terry Bradshaw does business with pigs.
He sells and buys pigs. I think Andy Reek with
a K at the end, is the pig seller. And
Terry Bradshaw sent a text he thought was to Andy Reid,
(11:30):
and Andy Reek said, how many pigs do you want?
By Monday?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not to be con not to be confused with Walter Reed,
which is the medical center.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What does say? Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And now it's.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Your annoying, he Doug. None of what I'm about to
say has anything to do with the Bengals eliminating me
from my survivor pool yeshterulday. None of what I'm about
to say has anything to do with them utterly sodomizing
me on a Sunday afternoon. I'm going to say that
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the Jets hadn't scored a single point in two weeks
going into the game, and they had one hundred and
two hundred and fifty four rushing yards two hundred and
forty eight passing yards. The Bengals were up at least
what they were, up fifteen points in the fourth quarter,
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allowed to just to score twenty three of the game's
final thirty points to win. I don't know if you
were able to watch it, but there was some funky
ass two pointer that was originally not called a catch
and then was called a catch and then somehow became
a two pointer, the Bengals going three and out, Flacco
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taking a sack. There was just so much what would
you call it, ass fuckery going on in this game
that if you have your one purchase, your one survivor purchase,
go eight weeks into the season and it's the Bengals
and you lose like that, you want to throw yourself
(13:28):
off of balconies and I could, like, there are very
few times when I could totally understand the person that
goes up and harasses athletes after losses. But yesterday, as
I'm sitting there on my couch and my blood pressure
is going through the roof, I actually could relate to
people that take this shit out on athletes. Like there
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there is a there's a an anger there is in
being in sports. There's also kind of like you're trying
to use a lot as to how exactly the Bengals
lost that game. They had no right losing that game,
so needless to say, the Bengals are annoying.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, I find it hard to find fault with anything
that you said, because yes, that was just watching the
I watched that one more on Red Zone than I
did in terms of watching the red real game. But
I mean it went from the Jets were a laughingstock
to exactly what you're feeling about the Bengals. It is interesting, though,
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that that's who you picked in your Survivor pool. It
was more of an anti Jets pick than it was
a Bengals pick.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, I assume that choosing a team to beat another
team that hadn't scored a point in two weeks was
pretty safe and the survivor pools, if you could get
a shitty team like the Bengals and use them in
your eighth week like that was. I was a part
of thirty three percent of my pool. They got fucked
(15:01):
in the ass. So it's like the Bengals were a
popular choice. Falcons were as well. By the way, good
job there, Falcons. Let's see I saw this. It's the
thirty second Sports Equinox. Does you and Sam, can you
have any idea? What's Sports equinox sport is playing tonight? Yeah?
(15:22):
I think that's that's a good way to put it.
I do have an issue. So it's like it says
there's an NFL game on tonight, NBA games, uh, the
World Series game, NHL games. Now, now you're getting to
be on the cusp of team of leagues and sports
that nobody cares about, and then you actually listed an
(15:45):
MLS game in your Sports Equinox. It's I think it's
pretty annoying that soccer would make its way into this
list given the low level of interest in this country
for that sport. Couldn't we just stop at hockey? I mean,
in the nineties, I think they became the fourth major
and we haven't really taken him out of the fourth major.
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But we don't need soccer in the sports equinox, do we?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
No, No, But it is interesting that it is being played.
It's like, did somebody schedule that game just so.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was the perfect sports quenoks anything else annoying?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You only like ten thanks coming off the weekend. So
Astro's fans are annoying for this reason. They're the same
reason that they're annoying the same reason that Giants fans
are annoying about Barry Bonds. Like, for whatever reason, logic
is completely thrown out the window when it comes to
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evaluating Barry Bonds's career. If you're a Giants fan, you
just oversee the fact that he ruined the record books
and he made a fucking joke of baseball for many
years because he was the best at it when people
say everybody else was doing it. Okay, yeah, but he
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was the greatest player going into the steroid era. He
chose to do steroids and he made a mockery of
the record books. But for some reason they're willing to
forgive him on that, the fact that he's not in
the Hall of Fame. That's not convincing for them. So
Astros fans are, I would say, just as annoying when
it comes to the twenty seventeen Astros team. Sean Pendergast
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is a radio host in Houston. He lives in Houston,
and he wrote a tweet over the weekend. I think
that kind of sums up Astros fans take on things.
If you weren't aware of this, George Springer has been
put on his ass multiple times in this postseason, mostly
by the Yankees pitchers, and then Yamamoto went real up
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and tight on Saturday Night. So Sean Pendergass writes, this
postseason has devolved into a weird retroactive punishment for George
Springer being carried out by people who have no ties
to the twenty seventeen season, unless you count Dave Roberts,
multiple beings, numerous brushbacks, whatever. I can appreciate the pettiness,
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but you'll never get me to denounce my love for
the twenty seventeen Astros. Every team that mattered was doing it.
And again, this kind of sums up like what they
when logic is thrown out the door. If everybody else
was doing it. If I give you that, your team
did it the best. Your team was the poster child
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for it, and the guy that did it the best
on the team that cheated the best was George Springer.
So the grudge due to the lack of punishment by
the league, by Dodger fans and Yankee fans is still very,
very real. And I love the fact that Yamamato sent
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him a message in the middle of a World r
Old Series game. This is how serious it's gotten to
where they want to make sure George Springer knows we
haven't forgotten about your ass, and you're gonna We're gonna
put your ass on the floor. But Astrols fans are annoying, Doug.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I agree with the Astros fans annoying, like we're supposed
to just forget. And the fact that the Dodgers remembered,
I think is phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
As well Astros fans, Bengals and Sports Equinox including soccer.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna add to it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm gonna add a annoying thing, and then i'd welcome
your feedback.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I welcome your feedback.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I am truly annoyed by the coach Firings. And again,
like Brian Kelly. I know what he feels bad for
Brian Kelly. It was a weird fit anyway, he gets
fifty four million dollars to not coach, but like it.
It's really interesting to me being in Oklahoma state alum,
I can't tell you how many people will be like, oh, lsu,
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it's a better job. They hop in line. We've been waiting.
We were in the first in the market for a
new coach. I told you that doesn't that doesn't matter.
Just because you fired your coach first doesn't mean like, oh,
that becomes the more premiere destination. Just a lack of
understanding of how it all works and how it all looks.
I told you, the second you fire your coach, you
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are giving away that season and probably the next season,
and everybody in the program is gone. And now that
that's happening, people are acting surprised. That's annoying as well.
That said, I'd say Astros fans are the most annoying.
They won a tanned championship. No players were punished, and
the fact that people don't forget and it's in the
playoffs and they're putting Springer on his ass is beautiful.
(20:44):
Why can we so Astros fans who can't deal with
the fact that nobody feels like the ramifications were ever
felt for a long forgotten, tainted world series.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You're annoying.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Why are we doing this? Because we can? What do
we got?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Jase Due?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So we're gonna play a version of because we can?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Today?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I have Iowa, Sam, you, and me. We've got three people.
There can't be a tie. It's called because we can.
You make the call? You make the call. Did Tom
Brady say the fuck word on live TV during the
broadcast yesterday? No, PREA just squirts away and they can't.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I just like that.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
We need to do it again because nobody issued the
actual broadcast.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I heard go ahead, No prea, just squirts away and
they can't.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Just like that.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I had to listen to it several times, and at
the end I hear a fucking I do hear it?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Because we can? You make the call? Oh, I'm just
squirts away and they can't.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I just like, Jason, what do you I mean? Obviously
you're you're hearing is different than ours. What do you hear?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I think I hear fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think it fits in the sentence too. It's not
like it's out of left field. Shouldn't Tom Brady be
allowed to say fucking That's a real question. He's the
greatest quarterback of all the time, I think were most
successful all the time. I think he should be able
to say fucking. That said, we can only play for
(22:23):
you because we can. That's it for the end the
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Speaker 3 (22:32):
I'm Doug Outla
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in the bonus
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. So I don't hate telling you
I told you so, but I told you so and
my own man. It's like, I'm not picking on my
all of a monitor because I love the place, but
I'm picking on my own manor because.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I was right all along.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So LSU fires Brian Kelly, Arkansas has already fired their coach.
Florida inspired their coach, you know, Penn State obviously has
fired James Franklin. There's going to be more to come.
I think it's fascinating though, all these coaches that have
gotten fired and.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My own monitor goes from like thinking, hey, we can
hand pick this guy, that guy, the other guy. Meanwhile,
I don't know what happens with David Randa at Baylor.
I don't know we know what happens with some of
these other jobs. But more jobs are gonna come up.
In UCLA's already obviously come up. But I do think
Oklahoma State's a better job than UCLA. We can get
into that is why maybe in this podcast or later show,
(01:11):
but the premise that some people went on was, hey,
we want to be first in the market.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We can be ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Like, it doesn't work that way, right, LSU is whether
it's at the very last moment or whether they have
a six month lead up, it's a better job, better
resources people, multiple coaches that want national championships. There, there's
players there, there's money there. It's the SEC which is
going to print money. It's not close. All the SEC
jobs are better, the Penn State jobs better. Now, it
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doesn't mean you can't get a really good coach, and
it doesn't mean that you can't do your due diligence
said that wanting to move on from a coach if
you think it's like whatever, but it's just such it's
so dumb, and this idea that you can't fire a
coach if maybe he wins a couple of games late, Like, no,
first of all, you don't have to fire a guy
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just because he lost some games. And you can fire
him if you're gonna pay him the payout, you can
you fire wherever we want. But the idea of firing
a guy three weeks into the season. Makes no sense,
especially when your whole logic behind it was we can
be first in the market, that can put us ahead
of some schools. It does not work that way, and
the perfect example is LSU Arkansas, Florida Right Way Ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Every day, this time and in the Bonus podcast or
play for your previous portion of Fox Sports Radio Fox
Sports One Show. Here's Brady Quinn from Two Pros to
Couple Joe talking about former Notre Dame head coach and
now former LSU head coach Brian Kelly.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
A lot of Notre Dame fans witnessed and saws they
always felt like there was more room for him to
do more in recruiting and all of that. Morgus Freeman
has without a doubt proven that since he's taken over
as head coach, with the way he's grinded, the way
he's recruited and built their roster at Notre Dame. For
Brian Kelly, it's actually been the exact opposite of what
(03:12):
I think LSU fans were getting. Not only did it
not get enough wins in the win column in comparison
to ed Orgeron or even less Miles than their first
four years, but also if you look at the recruiting
rankings like they've they've legitimately had taken a step back.
If you go through the first four years of Brian
Kelly's recruiting tenure, or I guess it's four years he's
(03:34):
it was at LSU, they were averaging about eight point
five as far as their team recruiting ranks. This is
for high school student athletes. And again it's you can't
use anio and the transfer portal because obviously at Orgeron,
less Miles didn't have that. Brian Kelly's only had one
top five class in the four years he's been there. Now,
his transfer portal class was the best of any of
(03:58):
this offseason.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But I'm always a.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Leery of like throwing that out there sometimes because it
doesn't necessarily always equate to wins. It just means you
bought enough players who are talented enough and have been
proven enough. But you know, obviously the team they're leaving
either doesn't have the funds to keep them or they
don't want to pay him to keep them.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Like, let's be real about that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Brady's actually contradicting himself in a massive way, but he's
not allowing himself. Like I think Marcus Freeman's awesome, but
Marcus Freeman has been freed up by the fact that
Notre Dame has shit tons of money and Notre Dame
never played the transfer game before and now they play
the transfer game, and that's how they've gotten there. That's
until this year. That's how they've gotten their quarterbacks, you know.
(04:44):
So yeah, I mean to pick apart his high school
recruiting is sorry, Brady, it's not it doesn't fucking matter.
It's just are you getting players? And they got they
they went full portal and like he said, and this
is where Brady is right. Where there's a mis rate,
(05:04):
there's a mis rate with high school kids as well.
The mis rate is just more costly with portal kids.
I think that's what's happened is you know, you get
a team and you don't you're not recruiting. You're recruiting
the most talented players, but not necessarily the best fits
and Brian was a weird fit for LSU. Anyway, So
(05:26):
I think Notre Dame is probably a little bit better place,
but I don't think it's because because of recruiting. You know,
are they recruiting well Notre Dame. Yeah, they're also still
recruiting high school kids, and they have lots and lots
and lots of fucking money. And I do think that
Freeman has dug in on the high school and then
they're paying to keep their kids. LSU decided, hey, we're
going to the portal. Here's the other thing. It's fucking hard.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
In the SEC.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's fucking easy when you're at Notre Dame. I mean, like,
what do we actually we're actually comparing in things that
you can't compare.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Let me help you understand.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, So LSU is in a league where everybody is
buying guys, everybody. It's unbelievably difficult. So yeah, they don't
have as good as high school players because they used
to most likely be a little bit a dirty program. Okay,
their losses, they have three losses here, Ole miss really good,
Vanderbilt really good, A and M really fucking good. They
(06:23):
beaten Florida, they beat Clemson at Clemson, they beat South Carolina.
They have Bama next in Arkansas, then wester Kentucky, than Oklahoma,
and if Brian Kelly was still the coach, they probably
beat Oklahoma. They probably lose to Alabama, and they have
four losses on the year, which seems unconscionable, but you
know what, that's actually that's pretty good for the SEC.
(06:45):
Fucking SEC is hard man, really really hard. Here is
Dan Byer and former Jets player Kerry Rhodes talk about
the Jets getting their first win.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
This says, yesterday, right after it.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Happened, Justin Fields looked like the old Justin I don't
know if that's a good EVAD thing.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I don't know either.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Breece Hall looked like the old bris Hall. Today is
your New York Jets. And if you ever see any
of our clips that we put on social media or
have Carrie's Fast Times, we decorate our studio with helmets
in today, but the Jets helmet front and center for
a lot of reasons. We start with win number one
today in Cincinnati, a comeback thirty nine, thirty eight victory
(07:25):
over the Bengals to get Numero Uno.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
What a day for the Jets.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
I mean for Justin Fields to have taken the public backlash,
the outcry from the owner, Woodie Johnson, and all those
words that were coming out throughout the week, for him
to keep his composure, keep his faith. He's a big
faith guy, and come out with without your number one
receiver and Garrett Wilson, and to distribute the ball the
(07:51):
way he did, and to look confident the way he did.
And even in this game, this game was, you know,
seemed like it was out of reach and seemed like
it was going to be a blowout. There were times
where the Bengals at complete control of the game, but
they kept fighting. Justin Fields is a fighter, and we
I think we could all say that right now. And
it's just it always comes to the point of when
(08:12):
the chips are down, what are you gonna do when
everything's against you, when everybody's against you? Are you gonna
come out and fight or lay down? This team came
out in fault.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They did. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Let me make a decision, Like, hey, all the other stuff,
the Justin Feel's stuff. I just don't think he's good
enough as a passer. And I think that's a general consensus,
and it's based upon four years of data, but it
is a great story for a week. Here's Colin Cowherd
talking without the Packs the Packers win over the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Jordan loves second half on the road, standalone game against
maybe a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense
that's as good as second half and that spot as
Farvan Rogers had he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy.
Combine that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the Green
(09:05):
Bay smart front office. This is going to be a
super Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum.
And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. I
watched a game between the Packers and the Steelers, and
I saw smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise,
(09:26):
And then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these
are two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the
opposite ideology. Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to
put some makeup on this organization, but they need a facelift.
Two iconic franchises, one of them has embraced offense, one
as an old quarterback, one as a young star. One
(09:48):
is loaded with young talent at wide receiver and tight end.
The other spends a fortune on defense.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and I don't think their defense is all that good,
but remember that it does feel like the Steelers were
kind of all in on this year and if it
doesn't work out that they will clean they will clean house.
And I also think, like, look, when they changed GMS
a couple of years ago, you're changing gentlemenager philosophies. So
they still haven't figured out the quarterback position long term,
(10:19):
and until they do, it's always going to set them back,
always going to hold them back. I was going to
hold them back, by the way. Here's here's a little
bonus one. Here's Terry Bradshaw. He said this on the
set of Fox NFL Sunday yesterday. But the thing that
I would worry about more so in Washington is at
the end of the day, I text Andy Reid and
I got a text back, and I thought.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
It was Andy Reid, but it's some guys selling pigs.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But I sounded good.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I didn't.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
What Yeah, yeah, which means blindly so listened by a
pig farmer.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Apparently Andy Reid has a new number and his old
number is that of a pig farmer.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I guess that's what I've read that the other way.
I think that I think Terry Brawdshaw has Andy Reid's
cell number. I also think Terry Bradshaw does business with pigs.
He sells and buys pigs. I think Andy Reek with
a K at the end, is the pig seller. And
Terry Bradshaw sent a text he thought was to Andy Reid,
(11:30):
and Andy Reek said, how many pigs do you want?
By Monday?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not to be con not to be confused with Walter Reed,
which is the medical center.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That's what the Fox says.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What does say? Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Let's find out who are what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And now it's.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Your annoying, he Doug. None of what I'm about to
say has anything to do with the Bengals eliminating me
from my survivor pool yeshterulday. None of what I'm about
to say has anything to do with them utterly sodomizing
me on a Sunday afternoon. I'm going to say that
(12:24):
the Jets hadn't scored a single point in two weeks
going into the game, and they had one hundred and
two hundred and fifty four rushing yards two hundred and
forty eight passing yards. The Bengals were up at least
what they were, up fifteen points in the fourth quarter,
(12:45):
allowed to just to score twenty three of the game's
final thirty points to win. I don't know if you
were able to watch it, but there was some funky
ass two pointer that was originally not called a catch
and then was called a catch and then somehow became
a two pointer, the Bengals going three and out, Flacco
(13:05):
taking a sack. There was just so much what would
you call it, ass fuckery going on in this game
that if you have your one purchase, your one survivor purchase,
go eight weeks into the season and it's the Bengals
and you lose like that, you want to throw yourself
(13:28):
off of balconies and I could, like, there are very
few times when I could totally understand the person that
goes up and harasses athletes after losses. But yesterday, as
I'm sitting there on my couch and my blood pressure
is going through the roof, I actually could relate to
people that take this shit out on athletes. Like there
(13:50):
there is a there's a an anger there is in
being in sports. There's also kind of like you're trying
to use a lot as to how exactly the Bengals
lost that game. They had no right losing that game,
so needless to say, the Bengals are annoying.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, I find it hard to find fault with anything
that you said, because yes, that was just watching the
I watched that one more on Red Zone than I
did in terms of watching the red real game. But
I mean it went from the Jets were a laughingstock
to exactly what you're feeling about the Bengals. It is interesting, though,
(14:33):
that that's who you picked in your Survivor pool. It
was more of an anti Jets pick than it was
a Bengals pick.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, I assume that choosing a team to beat another
team that hadn't scored a point in two weeks was
pretty safe and the survivor pools, if you could get
a shitty team like the Bengals and use them in
your eighth week like that was. I was a part
of thirty three percent of my pool. They got fucked
(15:01):
in the ass. So it's like the Bengals were a
popular choice. Falcons were as well. By the way, good
job there, Falcons. Let's see I saw this. It's the
thirty second Sports Equinox. Does you and Sam, can you
have any idea? What's Sports equinox sport is playing tonight? Yeah?
(15:22):
I think that's that's a good way to put it.
I do have an issue. So it's like it says
there's an NFL game on tonight, NBA games, uh, the
World Series game, NHL games. Now, now you're getting to
be on the cusp of team of leagues and sports
that nobody cares about, and then you actually listed an
(15:45):
MLS game in your Sports Equinox. It's I think it's
pretty annoying that soccer would make its way into this
list given the low level of interest in this country
for that sport. Couldn't we just stop at hockey? I mean,
in the nineties, I think they became the fourth major
and we haven't really taken him out of the fourth major.
(16:07):
But we don't need soccer in the sports equinox, do we?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
No, No, But it is interesting that it is being played.
It's like, did somebody schedule that game just so.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was the perfect sports quenoks anything else annoying?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You only like ten thanks coming off the weekend. So
Astro's fans are annoying for this reason. They're the same
reason that they're annoying the same reason that Giants fans
are annoying about Barry Bonds. Like, for whatever reason, logic
is completely thrown out the window when it comes to
(16:42):
evaluating Barry Bonds's career. If you're a Giants fan, you
just oversee the fact that he ruined the record books
and he made a fucking joke of baseball for many
years because he was the best at it when people
say everybody else was doing it. Okay, yeah, but he
(17:04):
was the greatest player going into the steroid era. He
chose to do steroids and he made a mockery of
the record books. But for some reason they're willing to
forgive him on that, the fact that he's not in
the Hall of Fame. That's not convincing for them. So
Astros fans are, I would say, just as annoying when
it comes to the twenty seventeen Astros team. Sean Pendergast
(17:28):
is a radio host in Houston. He lives in Houston,
and he wrote a tweet over the weekend. I think
that kind of sums up Astros fans take on things.
If you weren't aware of this, George Springer has been
put on his ass multiple times in this postseason, mostly
by the Yankees pitchers, and then Yamamoto went real up
(17:51):
and tight on Saturday Night. So Sean Pendergass writes, this
postseason has devolved into a weird retroactive punishment for George
Springer being carried out by people who have no ties
to the twenty seventeen season, unless you count Dave Roberts,
multiple beings, numerous brushbacks, whatever. I can appreciate the pettiness,
(18:13):
but you'll never get me to denounce my love for
the twenty seventeen Astros. Every team that mattered was doing it.
And again, this kind of sums up like what they
when logic is thrown out the door. If everybody else
was doing it. If I give you that, your team
did it the best. Your team was the poster child
(18:36):
for it, and the guy that did it the best
on the team that cheated the best was George Springer.
So the grudge due to the lack of punishment by
the league, by Dodger fans and Yankee fans is still very,
very real. And I love the fact that Yamamato sent
(18:57):
him a message in the middle of a World r
Old Series game. This is how serious it's gotten to
where they want to make sure George Springer knows we
haven't forgotten about your ass, and you're gonna We're gonna
put your ass on the floor. But Astrols fans are annoying, Doug.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I agree with the Astros fans annoying, like we're supposed
to just forget. And the fact that the Dodgers remembered,
I think is phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
As well Astros fans, Bengals and Sports Equinox including soccer.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna add to it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm gonna add a annoying thing, and then i'd welcome
your feedback.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I welcome your feedback.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I am truly annoyed by the coach Firings. And again,
like Brian Kelly. I know what he feels bad for
Brian Kelly. It was a weird fit anyway, he gets
fifty four million dollars to not coach, but like it.
It's really interesting to me being in Oklahoma state alum,
I can't tell you how many people will be like, oh, lsu,
(19:59):
it's a better job. They hop in line. We've been waiting.
We were in the first in the market for a
new coach. I told you that doesn't that doesn't matter.
Just because you fired your coach first doesn't mean like, oh,
that becomes the more premiere destination. Just a lack of
understanding of how it all works and how it all looks.
I told you, the second you fire your coach, you
(20:21):
are giving away that season and probably the next season,
and everybody in the program is gone. And now that
that's happening, people are acting surprised. That's annoying as well.
That said, I'd say Astros fans are the most annoying.
They won a tanned championship. No players were punished, and
the fact that people don't forget and it's in the
playoffs and they're putting Springer on his ass is beautiful.
(20:44):
Why can we so Astros fans who can't deal with
the fact that nobody feels like the ramifications were ever
felt for a long forgotten, tainted world series.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You're annoying.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Why are we doing this? Because we can? What do
we got?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Jase Due?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
So we're gonna play a version of because we can?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Today?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I have Iowa, Sam, you, and me. We've got three people.
There can't be a tie. It's called because we can.
You make the call? You make the call. Did Tom
Brady say the fuck word on live TV during the
broadcast yesterday? No, PREA just squirts away and they can't.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I just like that.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
We need to do it again because nobody issued the
actual broadcast.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I heard go ahead, No prea, just squirts away and
they can't.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Just like that.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I had to listen to it several times, and at
the end I hear a fucking I do hear it?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Because we can? You make the call? Oh, I'm just
squirts away and they can't.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I just like, Jason, what do you I mean? Obviously
you're you're hearing is different than ours. What do you hear?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I think I hear fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think it fits in the sentence too. It's not
like it's out of left field. Shouldn't Tom Brady be
allowed to say fucking That's a real question. He's the
greatest quarterback of all the time, I think were most
successful all the time. I think he should be able
to say fucking. That said, we can only play for
(22:23):
you because we can. That's it for the end the
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