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October 28, 2025 • 23 mins

Doug talks about what makes Japanese baseball players different. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take about Shohei Ohtani. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Kendrick Perkins makes today's installment of "Because We Can".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug gottli.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What up Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome,
welcome in. You know, I again, I'm allowed to be
judgmental in this job. I know that people always say, like,
don't be judgmental of people, but that's what we do
as human beings, right, that's what we do as human beings.

(00:33):
Is as human beings, what we like to do is
make judgments. Cast judgments.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We do.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Now hopefully they're based upon some facts, not just rumor
or whatever. But we like to cast judgments. And I
watched last night and Freddie Freeman becomes the hero. But
the show, Hey O, Tony Thing and you the Japanese
players from the Dodgers are literally like celebrating and jumping

(01:05):
with joy. If you listen to us on the radio show,
we talked about it, Jay Stu talked about it like
the actual joy that it felt like the Dodgers players
had when they won. And then if you listen to
Show Hayes postgame interview with Fox where he's like, I
just want to go to sleep, you know, so I
can get up and pitch tomorrow and win. Like that's it.

(01:26):
The only thing that matters to them is winning. And
yet it does sound cliche to say, but this is
the difference in the Japanese culture and in some other cultures,
including hours or American baseball and look, Latin baseball players

(01:47):
are predominantly a little bit more flashy. That's their culture.
American baseball players there's a mix of and there's constant
the fight between new school and old school whatever. Japanese players,
it doesn't seem like it matters young or old. They
are just wired to be unbelievably respectful of the game,
unbelievably competitive. And if you remember, didn't they win the

(02:11):
World Baseball Cup, right and they didn't have the talent
that we had or other teams had. Why did they win?
Because they're wired the right way from a young age.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
And I've shared this with this story with you on
radio before, but I'll do.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It on on the in the Bonus podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I had a friend who worked for a car company
and half of their cars are made in Japan, half
of the main America. And he's like, look, you do
what you want. But if it were me, I'd only
buy a car that when I open up the driver's
side door and it says where the cars made if
it's made in Japan, our same factories, with our same standards.

(02:55):
In Japan, we have no custodial service because people take
care of their stuff. In America, we have costoto service,
and people's areas are almost all messier than they are
in Japan. There's a pride and workmanship there that is taught,
that is iterated and reiterated and pounded in their heads,

(03:16):
and the respect factor is there.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I watch show, Hey, I watch him celebrate, and I
just think, not only is he great, and maybe he's
not humble at home. Maybe he talks shit on everybody
at home, Maybe he gives everybody the finger, Maybe he's
a gambling addict. I don't know. But the image that's
portrayed on TV is one which is wired to play
with joy and energy and passion, and he does just that.

(03:42):
I do think it's in the wiring of the Japanese player,
and I think it's been really successful.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's what the Fox say.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is be sure to catch live editions of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Let's get to the Fox Say and Now.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Every day of this time and the Bonus podcast play
for your portion of a previous show Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports One.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about show.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Hey, we're actually watching the greatest baseball player of all time.
We're watching him in real time. It's happening right now.
It's not one of those Hey, you should have seen
that guy play. He's the greatest baseball player of all time.
Babe Ruth did something, but he didn't do it together.
He didn't do a combination. That doesn't mean he couldn't
have done it, but he didn't do it. He was

(04:30):
a great pitcher, best pitcher in the game, and then
all of a sudden decided to be the greatest hitter.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Show.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Hey, o tany with what he and he pitches tonight,
So you're going to have that performance where you walk
him four times. Babe goten to the point where he's
getting Bond's treatment. One of the home runs. I went, oh,
what are we doing you? How could you possibly put
it anywhere near that? And they did, And I'm thinking
Oh my goodness. But watching that last night, or at

(04:58):
least as long as I could, you're watching the best
player in baseball history.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I know people are going to say, well, what about
Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter, But what he
is doing at the same time, and imagine if he
goes out there tonight and pitches five or six innings
quality baseball.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy really when you think
about it that way. I also would tell you, and again,
I'm not a baby Ruth of a Shinado. I know
that he's widely considered the greatest up until up until now,
Baby Ruth didn't steal fifty bases, So I don't know
this guy's It's so much fun to watch somebody who's
that good at what they do.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And the other part too, it is.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Obviously he speaks better English than whether he needs a
true translator or wants a true translator, whatever, he's comfortable,
it doesn't doesn't bother me. But he has an infectious way.
It's very it's very Mike Trout like. And I know
when I say that, we like, well, watch up, Mike
Trout doesn't win in big game. The thing about Mike

(06:03):
Trout has always been He always has this kind of
infectious energy spirit and he just obviously jumps off the
screen as being the best player when he was playing
in his prime. He has the Showhy has that same thing,
Jase Doo. He has that same kind of a boyish
charm smile and you know, desire to be playing out there,

(06:25):
which and I know the cynic says, anytime you're making
seven hundred million dollars to play a kid's game, of
course you feel that way. But I really feel that
it's a it's a distinct difference between him and some
guys in the game. There's some really good players and
they seem to like it, but he seems to truly
love it and play with joy.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh that's the thing for me watching him. Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
This is David Ortiz, Derek Jeter and a Rod and
Kevin Burkhardt talking about Freddy Freeman.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Watching Freddie Freeman hitting the ball, he just brought me
flashed back like like it seems like when we left
that moment from the last year, wife Sis Ray, this
last year, this year, lu Kevin, this guy's I mean,
it's you don't know, when these guys are cold, when
they're gonna get out because they go from struggling to

(07:16):
pull this right. That's what great, great players are all about.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
And Poppy, I couldn't agree with you more. And you know,
we gotta give some flowers to Dave Roberts. I mean,
he looks calm, cool and collected, and we've been kind
of joking around that he reminds us of mister team
mister Joe Torrey.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
But he gets paid.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
Excuse me, he gets paid for what he did the
last nine innings.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
He pushes every button. He knows the schwaster better than anybody,
and he's com con collected, but he's pushing all the
right buttons and he's being a great manager.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
He Freddy Freeman now one of four players with multiple
walk off homers in the postseason. Freddy you Correa, Bernie, Wow,
that's what a list. That's some list, and Freddy Freeman's
on it. Just incredible. He goes down, he's already goes
down in Dodgers lower in the Hall of Famer, but
he just keeps adding to it.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Now, well, Freddy Freeman, who's Almandina High School, right, which
is my brother and sisters high school, and they have
Freddy Freeman Field out there as well. And you know
there's some guys, I know, analytics guys want to tell
you that there's no such thing as clutching this right,
It's all a numbers game. Whatever that guy's clutch, I

(08:24):
don't think there's any argument about it. And look at
how good he was with the Braves as well. Here's
Colin Cowhert talking about the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 (08:30):
They're still fighting their way. Here's the scary thing, though,
six five weeks ago we were saying, what does Kansas
City do well? I'm watching last night against the Commanders
in a blowout win, and I'm thinking, what don't they
do well? They have more thirty point games and double
digit wins right now than all of last year, and

(08:51):
we're at the halfway point. So they haven't been this
deep offensively since twenty twenty two. Four hundred yards three
times in the last month. She Rice is clearly clearly
a number one, Xavier Worthy clever number two, Juju Smith
Schuster a perfect number three, and Travis Kelce's not done.

(09:13):
They have not punted in the first half of their
last three games. Their defense is number two in the league.
So and the scary thing is they're missing two offensive linemen,
so they're not quite right yet. They're just not quite
buttoned up on the front. But I said this two
weeks ago, I said it last week, and I'll say

(09:34):
it again. I think Kansas City is a touchdown better
than the second best team in the league. And I
still think this morning they're finding their way.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I think that's fair. I think it's fair.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It is hard to tell based upon who they're playing against,
but there's no question and who the quarterback is for
the other team, but there's no question that. This is
why I never jumped ship on the Kansa Chiefs. You
have a great quarterback, you have a great coach, and
you have whatever they're doing culture wise has allowed them
to be successful. And you know, like, look, there's a

(10:09):
reason they fought so hard to get Rushie Rice back
when I think Jay Suw and I both think he
shouldn't be playing football. That said, you know, like, look
he's back playing, so you know, obviously.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna go with him. They're
really good.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
The turn was a couple of weeks ago we talked
about on the show when they were even when they
got beat. It was like seven point five yards a play.
Like they have figured out offensively and they've gotten healthy enough.
Now it's gonna be about defense and we'll see when
it steps up in the level of competition. That's what
the Fox says.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I say. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekday hes at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And now it's your annoying.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
To walk or intentional walk show. Hill Tani. He was
intentionally walked four times last night after he hit his
second home run and then he was unintentionally intentionally walked,
so five walks and extra innings, and the manager, John
Schneider was asked, if this is going to continue, We're.

Speaker 10 (11:30):
Trying to pitch around him. You trust sir Anthony to
to make pitches to do that, and sometimes for pitchers
it's it's hard to do that. You know, when you're
you're kind of trying to throw a ball and didn't
put it where he wanted to put it. But you know,
he had a great game. He's a great player. But
I think, you know, after that, you just kind of
take the bet out of his hands.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
And not to give away secrets, but that's pretty much
what we should expect going forward.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
So one of the good things about last night, what
I thought was one of the cooler things, is that
it was a true, like shared experience among those who
cover sports. So as soon as the football game ended,
you got your NFL Twitter and then you get everybody
who has a boot check mark. And this is all
rhetorical because bot check marks don't mean anything, but I

(12:16):
mean the former Boo check Mark brigade. You have to
weigh in on everything that's significant in the world people.
You know, someone like Jamel Hill is like there should
be a rule against walking in one player more than
once intentionally. So you just kind of have these fly
by reactions to things. Kevin Wilds I love his content.

(12:40):
I think he's a very underrated part of First Things First,
and I think this is tongue in cheek, but he
actually wrote something that summed up a portion of the
Twitter reaction last night. He writes, this is bad for baseball,
bad for fans, and bad for your own picture's confidence.

(13:00):
I will just say this. It's really good strategy because
Mookie Bets sucks ass. Mookie Bets did not make them
pay once for walking Shohio Tani five times. Mookie Bets,
I just dug this up. I came across the box score.
In twenty eighteen, the last game that went eighteen innings

(13:23):
Dodgers red Sox when Munsey walked it off. Mooki in
that game was zero for seven. Mooki last night was
one for eight with kind of a ground ball between
the five to six hole, but most of them were
pop ups, which we all have come to known that
when Mookie struggles, he has these uncompetitive at bats with popouts.

(13:46):
Thank God for Muki's other traits, because he's not making
the bou Jays pay for walking. So why would John
Schneider pitch to show hey for the rest of the series.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I think it's again eddiebody who says, like the rules whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I just felt like, you're watching John Schneider do something
you have to do. It's the ultimate sign of respect,
but it's also the ultimate sign of Hey, I'm gonna
make somebody else beat me. Make somebody else beat me. Yeah,
I agree with it wholeheartedly.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
So I just got done basically telling you what frustrates
me about Mookie Bets. Yeah, he did have. He did
have the time after the game, after this eighteen inning
game in the clashouse last night, to tell some kind
of a joke. I think he was joking. The question
is definitely strange. The reporter doesn't quite question this the

(14:45):
right way. But this is Mookie Bets in the clubhouse
after going one for eight, stranding a whole lot of people.
Mookie Bets after the game. When you put your.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Head off, what will you think about when you go
to bed tonight and put your head on the tonight?

Speaker 5 (15:00):
What will you will you think about show? Hey? Will
you think about Freddy? What jumps out?

Speaker 7 (15:07):
I'm probably not gonna think about another man while I'm in.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Day, all right, So take away the fact that he
went one for a take away the fact that he
stranded all those base runners. He played a really good shortstop,
and he also pointed out something to the clubhouse that
I love. So this is how people in clubhouses talk.
You know, the last bastion of political incorrectness is the

(15:29):
locker room clubhouses. This is how guys talk, and and
the problem is when MOOKI kind of gets outside of
this and does these kind of woke podcasts where he
can't make fun of gays and he can't even like
laugh at gays. So that like uncomfortable laughter by the
reporters was like him being very like unwoke in the moment.
But this is how dudes in clubhouses talk.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, so what what? What? What annoyed you?

Speaker 5 (15:56):
What annoys me is, first of all, people take offense
to something like that. Oh, and this is how people
in clubhouses talk. It's just when Mookie gets on these
other podcasts and he has to be buttoned up, he
can't laugh at gays like that, but in the walker
room you still can't.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, it was he could have said pause as well.
That was That was also a good one. I don't know,
I just I thought it was funny. I like, I
love Here's what I like. I like that you had
a bad night, Grant, you won the game. So like,
had they lost the game and he lost in the game,
I don't know if he would have had wherewithal because
what happens is you get you get asked the question,
and you just kind of start going into your thing

(16:37):
and spilling out your feelings or whatever for some of
these guys. But it does show you know that he's
actually listening to the question. You know, if you weren't
listening to the question, you wouldn't have been able to
have that cute, kind of funny line, right. So, and yeah,
I don't know anybody who is offended. If they are,
that's a them problem.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
We're not, you know what I.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Mean, Like, I just I don't who needs to engage
in people like that? I would agree if somebody's offended,
their annoying.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
What else?

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Something happened during the much worse product last night Monday
Night Football, where uh, I guess Troy Aikman said the
quiet part out loud. Troy Aikman's either getting a lot
of credit for this or he's getting shipped for saying it.
But he's getting a lot of attention for saying this
in the middle of a Chiefs game with Patrick mahomes.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
See, he gets unnecessary roughness defense number ninety.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Five, fifteen yard penalty automatic first down. Yeah it did
in the land out I'm threw them down.

Speaker 11 (17:35):
Yeah, I mean it wasn't a lot. But with that said,
you know, they you just when it comes to quarterbacks,
especially this one. You know they're going to protect them,
and you know, Johnny.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Does a great job.

Speaker 11 (17:47):
He gets back there and it's just a lot of
frustration coming out on his part. It's an easy call, yeah,
an obvious flag, and dan Quinn can only shave his head.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
So I think that what annoys me is like you
get a lot of those responses like you can't even
touch the quarterback anymore, and it's like, how many backups
are going to start this week? I mean, you have
an already poor product and you're putting quarterbacks that aren't
even the starters to start these games. I think that
if anything, maybe the roughing the passer rules aren't strict enough.

(18:24):
There has to be like a deterrent in place. That's
what people don't understand. It's like they're not necessarily just
calling that play in a vacuum and it wasn't that egregious.
They're trying to create a deterrent for defensive players stay
the fuck away from quarterbacks because our product depends on it.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I couldn't agree with you more, could not agree with
you more. I mean, honestly, like we disagree on lots
of different stuff, but it actually plays into one of
the things. Again, I know there's more to it, but
you've been on this hey, zero hope. The NFL product's
not that good. And I will tell you that in

(19:04):
many instances where your most correct is these teams that
have to play backup quarterbacks and you're like, oh my god,
he started to realize there's like twenty people on earth
who can do this job, you know, and you start
seeing backups and then all of a sudden, you know.
And the other part about a backup quarterback is oftentimes
it's not like you have ten other starters healthy at

(19:26):
this point in the season and it's just a quarterback.
Oftentimes it's quarterback, and then it's one or two other guys,
and the star quarterback can cover for those other guys.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
The backup quarterback cannot.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Plus he's also just not good enough at something and
that's why he's not a starter.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
So yeah, I completely.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Agree that you have to keep those guys healthy, and
people who don't get that are annoying.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
And just to I want to play Troy Aikman one
more time because he said something very important and I
think those two weeks ago.

Speaker 11 (19:54):
The product just not very good. I'm gonna be honest,
it's just not very good. I mean, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
So the reaction to people that can't touch quarterbacks anymore,
Mookie Betts in the locker room, and then the intentional walks.
People crying about the intentional walks is they want to
see show how hit home runs?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think people crying about the intentional walks is annoying.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Why are we doing this because we can? All right,
so this is an all timer. If there wasn't NFL,
and if there wasn't one of the greatest baseball games
of all time, I think we would focus on this.
I mean, this is world class shit. Kendrick Perkins goes
on a podcast seemingly takes credit for Jah Morant's stardom

(20:50):
and then just gets into some weird, mishy mouse shit
about why he doesn't fuck with jaw and I guess
afterwards we could have a conversation of what that means.

Speaker 12 (21:01):
I was cool with Jo at one point, but then
when Joe started getting in trouble with some of his
stuff off the court and shit like that, I had
to speak on it. Me and Joe joall don't really
fuck with me. No more on that shit. But to
be honest in that type of situation, I don't fuck
with Jo And you know why I don't fuck I
fuck with his daddy, but I don't fuck with Joe.

(21:21):
You know why don't fuck with job because it's like, Bro,
the reason I'm so mad at you is because ESPN
packed up for a week and when y'all was listen,
y'all had the city rocking. ESPN ain't never packed up
and went down there, spent millions of dollars to go

(21:43):
do all access on y'all in Memphis. They did that
for Job Bro. I was the one that was praising Joe.
I was the one that said, hey man, I came
out and said, hey, look we could redo that draft.
Josh should have win number one and no Zion. In fact,
all of Disney business City, fast business bosses hearing me out,

(22:04):
we go do all access Bro. We down in Memphis,
shine and light on you. ESPN will never do that shit.
We we're knowing you the next chosen one, and you
fuck up. Guess what? Not only do that make you
look bad? That make me look bad?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Do we think they' really spent millions of dollars to
go down there and do it? All access peace, Like
I don't know if he knows so much.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
That costs, but uh, I thought it was great. I
thought it was great, honestly, And look, we can only
play that for you because we can here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. I actually thought it's really an interesting
look as to what it's like, what it's like to
be a U to be a talking head and have

(22:50):
real relationships with people that you have to talk about
like you will if you're really good at doing this,
if you want to be really good at doing it,
you're gonna lose a couple of friends because at some point,
and they probably weren't your friends to begin with, or
some relationships, but at some point you have to be
honest about people who are close to you. If you're not,

(23:11):
then you just become a sicker fan and lots of
the and look, it's an easy road. And there's been
guys that have been you know, good or gotten by
and they take it easy on their guys or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I just I.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Actually don't agree with that, and I actually agree with
Perke on this one. Why can we play it for
you because we can. That's it for the end of
the Modes Podcast. Check out the radio show every day
three to five Eastern twelve too Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
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