November 3, 2025 • 21 mins
Doug riffs about the SEC and all of the coaches that have been fired. Doug welcomes Brandon Krisztal of Guerilla Sports to talk about the Broncos and Colorado Buffalos. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Ja'Marr Chase and Chase Brown make today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in the
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What Up Doug gotlib Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app Welcome, Welcome, Uckleman. So it's happened again.
Hugh Freeze now fired as head coach of the Auburn Tagus.
So I saw this where Auburn's playing like what fifty
two million dollars to three guys who aren't coaching the
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Auburn Tigers anymore. I think that's that's funny. But this
is where we are in college athletics that the very
highest level, and the SEC is the very highest level.
They are a bunch of babies, That's what it is. Like.
One of the things you have to learn if you're
gonna be an athlete, and then if you're gonna be
in athletics is you're gonna have to learn how to lose.
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It's one of the things that a lot of us
have talked about with with kids, and like Jay stew
Is is, you know, he's mister anti gen Z because
so many Eers were raised in soccer games where they
don't keep scores, there's no win or no loser. So
sometimes it happens later in life now that people have
to learn, Hey, you got to learn how to lose.
The SEC is a bunch of babies, because when they lose,
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what they do, Hey, fire their coach. It's got to
be the coach's fault. You know, Tennessee loses at home
for a second time this year, this one to Oklahoma,
and of course what now, let's get rid of hypel
Kentucky may move on from mark shops. Hey, guess what,
everyone can't win every year. I don't know how to
I don't know how to tell you this, but when
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you have all those SEC teams, somebody's gonna win and
somebody's gonna lose. Now, when for consecutive years you have
tough years and you lose, I get it. It happens.
But Tennessee, for example, what a good year last year? Auburn? Like,
how how quick a time do you want to rebuild
this thing? They just keep shuffling through coaches. At some
point they got to look themselves in the mirror and
maybe it's us. And as as much as you can say, wow,
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you get these coachers are making too much money. They're
making that money because they that's their only way to
protect themselves. And the thought was previously, well, I can
only protect myself from getting fired by having a gargantuan buyout.
They won't pay. Now they're paying those buyouts, So now
you got to protect yourself because you may be out
of work for a long time. It's it's legitimately. If
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you're not ranked in the SEC your coach is probably
getting fired. That's crazy. That's crazy. Anybody who thinks that's
normal or okay or how business should work like, it's nuts.
And like I told you, what people don't realize is
it's a lot like surgery. Right when you have surgery
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and you don't you'd have voluntary surgery, or you have
a what is it called elective surgery, right, they called
elective surgery elective surgery. When you have an elective surgery,
every time you go in, you run the risk of infection,
you get scar tissues, you're never going to be every
time you get cut, you're you're not gonna be the
better off. Even when there's successful surgeries, there's one a
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risk of infection, a risk of things going wrong, and
generally every stitch, every eventually you're gonna develop arthritis or
some sort of calson scarring in that area. It's the
same thing with coaching changes. If you're going out wheeling
coaches like Auburn is every three years, every two years,
every time something goes bad, you're always setting yourself back.
And then the last part of it is you're while
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the SEC was the most competitive, best league in the country,
when you have like five coaches have been fired, those
teams are decimated because everybody's leaving and nobody wants to
be there, and coaches think they're gonna get fired, and
so the level of competition at the end of the
year when you're playing against interim coaches is not the same.
What's going on in college football is crazy. Don't let
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anybody tell you that it's a reasonable way to run
a business. And the big part of it is the
SEC A bunch of babies.
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iHeartRadio app. Let's welcome in my guy. Brandon christaal who
works for is It gorilla or gorilla.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Sports Gorilla like gorilla marketing. Our coverage is you know,
it sneaks up on you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Okay, I got it. I got It's like, what's the
new term ambush ambush and baseball, it's the ambush attack.
I can't remember what it is. Regardless, you were at
the Broncos win yesterday, you cover the Broncos with your
podcast network. I just I struggled to buy into this
team because of how they escaped yesterday, the comeback it
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gets against the Giants, And maybe it's because I saw
him against the Chargers, and I know the Chargers were
different than they were healthier. How good are they.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Good enough that they keep finding ways to win in
different ways? But I think maybe the thing that sticks
out the most, and I understand CJ. Stroud concussion obviously
put a damper on things, but that was the fourth
game this season that that defense is not allowed a touchdown.
And I understand that. Against the Bengals, it was Jake Browning.
It wasn't Joe Flacco or certainly Joe Burrow. Against the Jets,
it was the Jets.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And so they did beat the Eagles on the road.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They did, and they didn't you know I was thinking
about because there was not one, but two goal line
stands yesterday in Houston. We didn't even really see the
toush push with that game in Philly, and that was
on the way to London. But they went from being
one and two to probably very easily eight and two
if they can take care of the Raiders Thursday night
here and in power Field at Mile High, and I
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certainly liked their chances.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, and five of their last eight are are at
home as well, and they always they always played better
at home, and they usually they usually pay more games
early at home. So it's a weird schedule year for
the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, but it's one that set up the way they liked.
They've got the bye late, they get the mini by here.
They're gonna have a second Thursday game though, Christmas night
they're in Kansas City to take on Patrick Mahomes, Travis Else,
Chris Jones and the Chiefs. So that'll be a short
week coming off of back to back home games with
the Packers on the fourteenth of December, and then the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Don't know what the Jags look like then.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Anyway, and where the pack will be, but it sets
up well for them to certainly be in the mix
to win this division and jockey for playoff positioning in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, and then again things start to open up for
him right that the Chiefs are just they continue to
be what the kids say mid and then and the
Chargers are just so banged up.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, the alt thing really hurts because you obviously were
at out Rashaan Slater all year. You knew that they're
gonna still play hard, and you like what you've seen
from Omaron Hampton that he gets banged up justin Herbert's
been great. I've got him on a bunch of fantasy
teams too, and so it's been that's been fun to watch.
But you couldn't trust them when they were fully healthy,
just because it feels like the old saying goes, the
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Chargers are gonna charger. Well, it's not gonna be their
fault again. But I remember talking to Melvin Gordon about
the different O line combinations that he had every single week,
and you obviously know Tom Telesko really well and he
had to live through it. But it was, you know,
it was wild to see then, and it's still even
with Harbaugh there with Herbert playing maybe his best football,
the Broncos certainly are in the mix, and it shouldn't
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surprise anyone with that defense that bo Nix makes enough
plays that they end up winning the AFC West. I'm
not ready to call it right now, but at seven
and two, they're in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, last one terms of football, Deon's team got blown
out again. Does he come back next year? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I don't think he wants to go out like this.
He's hopefully going to get to keep Jordan's seating the
best left tackle maybe in college football as a sophomore
kid from miamg that was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
A great recruit and stayed. Now he's in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Year two, so he stays at left tackle. Juju Lewis
is going to start this week against West Virginia. You know,
Dion says it starts with me. So he didn't make
his coaches or players available after the game. When they
get blown out by Arizona on Saturday folsom Field fifty
two seventeen, I believe he was a score. If he's
not there, his health is a legitimate, oh no doubt issue.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Who's gonna fault him, and you talk to anyone that's
tied to that program in Boulder or that loves the Buffs,
and you know, I've been in the market out twenty
years and friends with so many of those Buff legends.
Everyone appreciates the raising of the profile. And if he
decides to move on, no one's gonna have any hard feelings.
But I think they'd love to see him try to
find a way to have a better year in the
next year.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Two.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He says he's not doing anything to follow his kids.
They follow him, but he could just go back to
be and deon Sanders and that might even be easier
on his health.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it is. It is crazy. Last thing we got
thirty seconds you're cancel um and now you're I get
to coach against Kansas. What's this like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, the happiest moment as your friend that I had
was when you called the Final Four and you're on
the set with Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith. And then
when you can take this job. I was like, Hey,
wh you're gonna play a game of Kansas? You said
next year, all right, I'll be there. So flu from
Houston to Kansas City was cool. Enough to be able
to ride on the bus for shoot around, and I
forget that you're a basketball just a tricky thing because
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I never really watched you coach. I mean, I've seen
you coach kids over the years, but I've never seen this,
And so look, I don't ever want the Jayhawks to lose,
but I will not be sad at all. I'll be
wearing my Green Bay Phoenix gear and if it's their
only loss of the year on their way to a
national championship, That'll be a feather in your cap.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I can't wait to see you in there on
the sidelines opposite of Bill selth Be pretty fun. That's
my guy. Brandon christaal Gorilla Sports in Denver. Thanks for
joining me, man, Thanks Doug.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Hey, Doug, there was an interesting like Twitter experiment. For
those listeners who didn't see it at Jason Stewart put
out of tweet over the week about the in game interviews,
and it got into the algorithm and it just like
took off and to this moment is still getting reaction.
It was basically just criticizing these moments during the game
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where Tom de Verducci and Ken Rosenthal, without any awareness
at all, is interviewing managers in very crucial situations of
crucial games. Here's a couple examples. So this is uh,
this I want to say, this is Ken Rosenthal. Now
this is Verducci with Roberts.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Welcome back to Tovao, joined by Dodgers manager Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Will Smith drives the first all time the deep left
center field pit is off the top of the wall.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
A leadoff double for will Smith and they're how to
put Dave Roberts in a good boat for her to check.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
What.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Okay, I'm sure that's the swing you've been looking for, Doc,
You've gotten underneath some pitches on Mack.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Sure's our first time around.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
What are you looking for a.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Second time around?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Say that again?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Some time through the lineup swings like that? What are
you looking for?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, I just think that we got to
still stay in the strike zone.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So you have a manager who's a batter just got
a lead off double. He needs to give signals to
his bas coaches, He needs to do work. Tom Verducci
is working in the game for forty years and he
has the utter lack of self awareness to just let
him do his fucking job. And then Ken Rosenthal thought
Erducci was so bad he wanted to be worse when
he was with Schneider.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Ridge played umpire Jordan Baker after the first inning, Crew cheek,
Mark Wegner between innings and the second What was the
message you were trying to convey about Otani?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
We were just talking about I mean, we get that
there's extra time kind of baked in there when he's
either on the play, when he's either at the plate.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Turn it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Sorry, Ken, it's like the worst interview, lever good. We
were just talking about the kind of the time in
between innings.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Sorry, in the middle of an interview, I had to
make sure that something couldn't go to replay, and I
apologize to the reporter for interrupting me. During my job
on Twitter, you typically throw out something and half of
it calls you fat and ugly and you're wrong, and
then half of it agrees with you. This was like
ninety five percent. If you look at my comments, ninety
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five percent of people think that in game interviews need
to go away, and that Fox is completely oblivious and
these two reporters are dipshits for doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna disagree with you. I do understand.
I haven't had the in game interview, so I can't
tell you right like, I have a game tonight and
I don't know what it would be like in the
early stage of the first half if somebody's asking me
questions while the game is going on. Baseball has very
different pacing obviously than than football. I actually liked it.
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I actually like it cause it's it's really what's going
on down there, if you're honest with yourself. Chase too,
there's a lot of people who watch baseball, like, what
are you actually doing as manager? Right? You fill out
the lineup card and you choose some butts and that's
what you do. But yes, it is. They still haven't
kind of worked it out, and I don't think I
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would agree with you on Verducci and we just timing
and understanding of time and place. It's also, well, if
you're gonna set up the question. You don't set it
up with like Schnyder sitting there, You don't say the
names of the crew chief, et cetera, et cetera. You
just say that and then you turn to John Snyder
and then when the timing's right, you ask the question.
So I understand why you're annoyed by it, because it's
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disrupting those guys from managing their team. And to that point,
I kind of agree with you, but I'm only going
to disagree with you from this standpoint. I actually think
it's a good viewing experience to see the reality of
all the stuff that's going on down there, as much
as it's still kind of clunky to get to it.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
It's Game seven of the World shorties on no offense
to you, but your game in Kansas.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Doesn't matter, not the same. I got it.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I got Caleb Joseph is an ex MLB catcher. He's
also a TSN analyst, and he's been getting completely shit
on for forty eight hours for saying this after the
game on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
There were a lot of wet eyes and I don't
doubt them and I don't blame them for that. And
it's gonna sound like sour grapes and I don't really
give a shit, but I think the better team did
not win this series. I think the Blue Jays are
the better team, and I feel like they played baseball
a certain way that was infectious, that grabbed the attention
of the fans, and it's it's disheartening to see that
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the better team did not win. And that's not to
take anything away from the Dodgers, but the Blue Jays,
they did so many things correct.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They did so many things right.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Caleb. Everything Caleb just said was correct. Key k elevated
this by like retweeting it. I'm so glad that the
worst team won and it's just been getting crushed by
Dodger fans. And I actually agree with Caleb Joseph. The
Boujay has lost the series. But they were the much
better team. They hit better, they pitched better, they scored
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more runs per game. They were the better team. There
were just some like ridiculously unlucky things that didn't go
their way, I mean, just completely, and Dodgers made a
couple of clutch plays when they had to. But Caleb
Joseph is right, Bojays were the better team in this series.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Uh yeah again, I so you're annoyed at people just
roasting a guy saying they're the better team even though
they didn't win.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
This guy's getting killed. I think I can't like an apology.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that's because people are out of their mind. I
don't know if I don't know if I agree with you,
because they did make some errors, right, like getting picked
off second base. I think you pointed out, and it's
pointed out that Smoltz didn't say anything about it in
Game six when they got doubled up there at the
end of the game, Like that was an egregious error.
There were some other errors that they made that you
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just can't make right, You just can't make I mean,
here's one like do you send the runner at first
base so you take yourself out of the double play?
That's like, that's a legit question there. But anyway, I
generally agree with you, like you're unless you played baseball.
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Whether you agree or disagree with his opinion, he has
every right to his opinion, every right. And all these
people who are, you know, slamming him, they don't know,
they don't know shit about shit. I'm with you on
this one.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
So all the aggravators NFL aggravators have jumped on this,
and I've also heard reports of this CARDI b is
the baby mama to be of Stefan Diggs. They've also
dug up three others that are currently pregnant with Stefan
Diggs's child, so he has four baby mamas to deliver,
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and I think he has babies in this world from
multiple other women. I guess I'm annoyed by this. I'm
not religious, so this whole like sex out of wedlock
or having a child at a wedlock thing is to me,
that isn't It isn't a religious thing. It comes to me.
It comes down to this. And I'll say this about
Elon Musk too, So it's not a racial thing or
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a cultural thing. If you have twelve kids by twelve
different women, there's no way you could be a present father.
So you're just opting to not be a present father.
And I don't know what man wants to admit to that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I don't either. I mean, I'll give you my honest
answer is I would never do that. I mean, I'm
I live two plain flights away from my son and
it eats me alive on a daily basis. It's the
really The hardest part of my day is every day
again I'm knowing that my son. In addition and not living,
not living in the same house full time anymore, is
you know, I miss him. I miss him. I try
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and be a present father really really hard. And I
don't know why anybody would brack about that.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I agree, and I can't, but I can't help but
judge him. I mean, you, you're a head coach of
many young men. You have a teenage son, Like what
if they what if one would come up to you
and be like, yeah, I've got four four in the
oven by four different women.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I just I don't it's it's terrible, right, and
it's terrible. Now, look for me, I don't want to
be a hypocrite because I don't have multiple you know,
I have only one baby mama, Right, That's that's it.
But I don't want to be a hypocrite and and say, hey,
you know you're not a present father. I mean again,
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I took a job that moved away from my kids.
It's really really hard, but I didn't take away from
There's no chance of him living with three of them, right,
So I agree with you. He deserves to be called out.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
So safon Diggs and his ilk Caleb Joe's of getting
shipped on and in game interviews.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm gonna do you know what I'm feeling. I'm feeling
like supporting Chase today because that was Game seven was
one of the most unbelievable sporting events I've watched. So
I'll support you in it, even though yeah, even though
I don't, I don't hate in game interviews. I love
the fact that it feels like it's in a game,
but the fact that it was so clunky in such
a big game, h I that one. I'm I'm gonna
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side with you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
On why are we doing this? Because we can, all right?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Jamar Chase. Yesterday, after the Bengals gave up a ridiculous
touchdown to lose a game they thought they had come
back and won, Jamar Chase chose to be diplomatic with
reporters afterwards when talking about the defense.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm gonna stay in my lane.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
I don't want to defensive player coming to me out
about what the fuck I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Jace Brown, the running back, the offensive player for the Bengals,
chose a different tact.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
We just got to play complimentary football. Like we put
the ball in the end zone and go up a
point at the end, finish the fucking game, like just ended,
Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we
need to do. Just end the fucking game, like make them,
make them get us the ball back, let us fucking
go to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.
That's how that's like, that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I again the Cincinnati Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals are
a poop show. And you know you have one player
saying the right things, and then you have offensive players
that can't, Hey, listen, offensive players. If it really mattered
about your defense, you guys wouldn't have held the Bengals
upside down and shook them for every fucking penny. So
you have no money to spend on defense. Like that's
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called being the worst teammate ever. I don't give a shit.
If you score forty seven fucking points, you don't say
a goddamn word about about your your defense not getting
a stop. Otherwise there will be games where you come
up short. Do you want them coming in and saying, hey,
you should have caught the fucking ball on third down?
You should have should have missed that block. I completely
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disagree with that. That that is fanboy shit. That is you
know what's his name? By the way, the I because
I've seen that clip run a million times. Yes, Chase Brown.
Where did Chase Brown play in college? Yeah? Okay, so
when he's at Illinois, they weren't very fucking good. Okay.
He was also a Western I think he played Western
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Michigan before there didn't he? I think so? I want
to say he played Western Michigan as well, but regardless,
Uh yeah, he played at Western Michigan. He ran the football.
Then he transferred up to Illinois. So on a game
which he didn't play, well, does he want guys coming
and going, hey, what do you guys? Do you guys
will go a game which he fumbles? Does he want low?
That's yeah? Shut the fuck up, Chase Brown. Who the
fuck are you saying that shit? Why could we play
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What Up Doug gotlib Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app Welcome, Welcome, Uckleman. So it's happened again.
Hugh Freeze now fired as head coach of the Auburn Tagus.
So I saw this where Auburn's playing like what fifty
two million dollars to three guys who aren't coaching the
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Auburn Tigers anymore. I think that's that's funny. But this
is where we are in college athletics that the very
highest level, and the SEC is the very highest level.
They are a bunch of babies, That's what it is. Like.
One of the things you have to learn if you're
gonna be an athlete, and then if you're gonna be
in athletics is you're gonna have to learn how to lose.
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It's one of the things that a lot of us
have talked about with with kids, and like Jay stew
Is is, you know, he's mister anti gen Z because
so many Eers were raised in soccer games where they
don't keep scores, there's no win or no loser. So
sometimes it happens later in life now that people have
to learn, Hey, you got to learn how to lose.
The SEC is a bunch of babies, because when they lose,
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what they do, Hey, fire their coach. It's got to
be the coach's fault. You know, Tennessee loses at home
for a second time this year, this one to Oklahoma,
and of course what now, let's get rid of hypel
Kentucky may move on from mark shops. Hey, guess what,
everyone can't win every year. I don't know how to
I don't know how to tell you this, but when
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you have all those SEC teams, somebody's gonna win and
somebody's gonna lose. Now, when for consecutive years you have
tough years and you lose, I get it. It happens.
But Tennessee, for example, what a good year last year? Auburn? Like,
how how quick a time do you want to rebuild
this thing? They just keep shuffling through coaches. At some
point they got to look themselves in the mirror and
maybe it's us. And as as much as you can say, wow,
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you get these coachers are making too much money. They're
making that money because they that's their only way to
protect themselves. And the thought was previously, well, I can
only protect myself from getting fired by having a gargantuan buyout.
They won't pay. Now they're paying those buyouts, So now
you got to protect yourself because you may be out
of work for a long time. It's it's legitimately. If
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you're not ranked in the SEC your coach is probably
getting fired. That's crazy. That's crazy. Anybody who thinks that's
normal or okay or how business should work like, it's nuts.
And like I told you, what people don't realize is
it's a lot like surgery. Right when you have surgery
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and you don't you'd have voluntary surgery, or you have
a what is it called elective surgery, right, they called
elective surgery elective surgery. When you have an elective surgery,
every time you go in, you run the risk of infection,
you get scar tissues, you're never going to be every
time you get cut, you're you're not gonna be the
better off. Even when there's successful surgeries, there's one a
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risk of infection, a risk of things going wrong, and
generally every stitch, every eventually you're gonna develop arthritis or
some sort of calson scarring in that area. It's the
same thing with coaching changes. If you're going out wheeling
coaches like Auburn is every three years, every two years,
every time something goes bad, you're always setting yourself back.
And then the last part of it is you're while
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the SEC was the most competitive, best league in the country,
when you have like five coaches have been fired, those
teams are decimated because everybody's leaving and nobody wants to
be there, and coaches think they're gonna get fired, and
so the level of competition at the end of the
year when you're playing against interim coaches is not the same.
What's going on in college football is crazy. Don't let
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anybody tell you that it's a reasonable way to run
a business. And the big part of it is the
SEC A bunch of babies.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
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Speaker 2 (04:07):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. Let's welcome in my guy. Brandon christaal who
works for is It gorilla or gorilla.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Sports Gorilla like gorilla marketing. Our coverage is you know,
it sneaks up on you.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Okay, I got it. I got It's like, what's the
new term ambush ambush and baseball, it's the ambush attack.
I can't remember what it is. Regardless, you were at
the Broncos win yesterday, you cover the Broncos with your
podcast network. I just I struggled to buy into this
team because of how they escaped yesterday, the comeback it
(04:46):
gets against the Giants, And maybe it's because I saw
him against the Chargers, and I know the Chargers were
different than they were healthier. How good are they.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Good enough that they keep finding ways to win in
different ways? But I think maybe the thing that sticks
out the most, and I understand CJ. Stroud concussion obviously
put a damper on things, but that was the fourth
game this season that that defense is not allowed a touchdown.
And I understand that. Against the Bengals, it was Jake Browning.
It wasn't Joe Flacco or certainly Joe Burrow. Against the Jets,
it was the Jets.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And so they did beat the Eagles on the road.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They did, and they didn't you know I was thinking
about because there was not one, but two goal line
stands yesterday in Houston. We didn't even really see the
toush push with that game in Philly, and that was
on the way to London. But they went from being
one and two to probably very easily eight and two
if they can take care of the Raiders Thursday night
here and in power Field at Mile High, and I
(05:38):
certainly liked their chances.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, and five of their last eight are are at
home as well, and they always they always played better
at home, and they usually they usually pay more games
early at home. So it's a weird schedule year for
the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, but it's one that set up the way they liked.
They've got the bye late, they get the mini by here.
They're gonna have a second Thursday game though, Christmas night
they're in Kansas City to take on Patrick Mahomes, Travis Else,
Chris Jones and the Chiefs. So that'll be a short
week coming off of back to back home games with
the Packers on the fourteenth of December, and then the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Don't know what the Jags look like then.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Anyway, and where the pack will be, but it sets
up well for them to certainly be in the mix
to win this division and jockey for playoff positioning in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, and then again things start to open up for
him right that the Chiefs are just they continue to
be what the kids say mid and then and the
Chargers are just so banged up.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, the alt thing really hurts because you obviously were
at out Rashaan Slater all year. You knew that they're
gonna still play hard, and you like what you've seen
from Omaron Hampton that he gets banged up justin Herbert's
been great. I've got him on a bunch of fantasy
teams too, and so it's been that's been fun to watch.
But you couldn't trust them when they were fully healthy,
just because it feels like the old saying goes, the
(06:49):
Chargers are gonna charger. Well, it's not gonna be their
fault again. But I remember talking to Melvin Gordon about
the different O line combinations that he had every single week,
and you obviously know Tom Telesko really well and he
had to live through it. But it was, you know,
it was wild to see then, and it's still even
with Harbaugh there with Herbert playing maybe his best football,
the Broncos certainly are in the mix, and it shouldn't
(07:11):
surprise anyone with that defense that bo Nix makes enough
plays that they end up winning the AFC West. I'm
not ready to call it right now, but at seven
and two, they're in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, last one terms of football, Deon's team got blown
out again. Does he come back next year? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I don't think he wants to go out like this.
He's hopefully going to get to keep Jordan's seating the
best left tackle maybe in college football as a sophomore
kid from miamg that was.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
A great recruit and stayed. Now he's in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Year two, so he stays at left tackle. Juju Lewis
is going to start this week against West Virginia. You know,
Dion says it starts with me. So he didn't make
his coaches or players available after the game. When they
get blown out by Arizona on Saturday folsom Field fifty
two seventeen, I believe he was a score. If he's
not there, his health is a legitimate, oh no doubt issue.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Who's gonna fault him, and you talk to anyone that's
tied to that program in Boulder or that loves the Buffs,
and you know, I've been in the market out twenty
years and friends with so many of those Buff legends.
Everyone appreciates the raising of the profile. And if he
decides to move on, no one's gonna have any hard feelings.
But I think they'd love to see him try to
find a way to have a better year in the
next year.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Two.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He says he's not doing anything to follow his kids.
They follow him, but he could just go back to
be and deon Sanders and that might even be easier
on his health.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it is. It is crazy. Last thing we got
thirty seconds you're cancel um and now you're I get
to coach against Kansas. What's this like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, the happiest moment as your friend that I had
was when you called the Final Four and you're on
the set with Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith. And then
when you can take this job. I was like, Hey,
wh you're gonna play a game of Kansas? You said
next year, all right, I'll be there. So flu from
Houston to Kansas City was cool. Enough to be able
to ride on the bus for shoot around, and I
forget that you're a basketball just a tricky thing because
(09:01):
I never really watched you coach. I mean, I've seen
you coach kids over the years, but I've never seen this,
And so look, I don't ever want the Jayhawks to lose,
but I will not be sad at all. I'll be
wearing my Green Bay Phoenix gear and if it's their
only loss of the year on their way to a
national championship, That'll be a feather in your cap.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I can't wait to see you in there on
the sidelines opposite of Bill selth Be pretty fun. That's
my guy. Brandon christaal Gorilla Sports in Denver. Thanks for
joining me, man, Thanks Doug.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Hey, Doug, there was an interesting like Twitter experiment. For
those listeners who didn't see it at Jason Stewart put
out of tweet over the week about the in game interviews,
and it got into the algorithm and it just like
took off and to this moment is still getting reaction.
It was basically just criticizing these moments during the game
(10:10):
where Tom de Verducci and Ken Rosenthal, without any awareness
at all, is interviewing managers in very crucial situations of
crucial games. Here's a couple examples. So this is uh,
this I want to say, this is Ken Rosenthal. Now
this is Verducci with Roberts.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Welcome back to Tovao, joined by Dodgers manager Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Will Smith drives the first all time the deep left
center field pit is off the top of the wall.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
A leadoff double for will Smith and they're how to
put Dave Roberts in a good boat for her to check.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
What.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Okay, I'm sure that's the swing you've been looking for, Doc,
You've gotten underneath some pitches on Mack.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Sure's our first time around.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
What are you looking for a.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Second time around?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Say that again?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Some time through the lineup swings like that? What are
you looking for?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, I just think that we got to
still stay in the strike zone.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So you have a manager who's a batter just got
a lead off double. He needs to give signals to
his bas coaches, He needs to do work. Tom Verducci
is working in the game for forty years and he
has the utter lack of self awareness to just let
him do his fucking job. And then Ken Rosenthal thought
Erducci was so bad he wanted to be worse when
he was with Schneider.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Ridge played umpire Jordan Baker after the first inning, Crew cheek,
Mark Wegner between innings and the second What was the
message you were trying to convey about Otani?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
We were just talking about I mean, we get that
there's extra time kind of baked in there when he's
either on the play, when he's either at the plate.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Turn it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Sorry, Ken, it's like the worst interview, lever good. We
were just talking about the kind of the time in
between innings.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Sorry, in the middle of an interview, I had to
make sure that something couldn't go to replay, and I
apologize to the reporter for interrupting me. During my job
on Twitter, you typically throw out something and half of
it calls you fat and ugly and you're wrong, and
then half of it agrees with you. This was like
ninety five percent. If you look at my comments, ninety
(12:22):
five percent of people think that in game interviews need
to go away, and that Fox is completely oblivious and
these two reporters are dipshits for doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna disagree with you. I do understand.
I haven't had the in game interview, so I can't
tell you right like, I have a game tonight and
I don't know what it would be like in the
early stage of the first half if somebody's asking me
questions while the game is going on. Baseball has very
different pacing obviously than than football. I actually liked it.
(12:55):
I actually like it cause it's it's really what's going
on down there, if you're honest with yourself. Chase too,
there's a lot of people who watch baseball, like, what
are you actually doing as manager? Right? You fill out
the lineup card and you choose some butts and that's
what you do. But yes, it is. They still haven't
kind of worked it out, and I don't think I
(13:16):
would agree with you on Verducci and we just timing
and understanding of time and place. It's also, well, if
you're gonna set up the question. You don't set it
up with like Schnyder sitting there, You don't say the
names of the crew chief, et cetera, et cetera. You
just say that and then you turn to John Snyder
and then when the timing's right, you ask the question.
So I understand why you're annoyed by it, because it's
(13:37):
disrupting those guys from managing their team. And to that point,
I kind of agree with you, but I'm only going
to disagree with you from this standpoint. I actually think
it's a good viewing experience to see the reality of
all the stuff that's going on down there, as much
as it's still kind of clunky to get to it.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
It's Game seven of the World shorties on no offense
to you, but your game in Kansas.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Doesn't matter, not the same. I got it.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I got Caleb Joseph is an ex MLB catcher. He's
also a TSN analyst, and he's been getting completely shit
on for forty eight hours for saying this after the
game on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
There were a lot of wet eyes and I don't
doubt them and I don't blame them for that. And
it's gonna sound like sour grapes and I don't really
give a shit, but I think the better team did
not win this series. I think the Blue Jays are
the better team, and I feel like they played baseball
a certain way that was infectious, that grabbed the attention
of the fans, and it's it's disheartening to see that
(14:36):
the better team did not win. And that's not to
take anything away from the Dodgers, but the Blue Jays,
they did so many things correct.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They did so many things right.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Caleb. Everything Caleb just said was correct. Key k elevated
this by like retweeting it. I'm so glad that the
worst team won and it's just been getting crushed by
Dodger fans. And I actually agree with Caleb Joseph. The
Boujay has lost the series. But they were the much
better team. They hit better, they pitched better, they scored
(15:07):
more runs per game. They were the better team. There
were just some like ridiculously unlucky things that didn't go
their way, I mean, just completely, and Dodgers made a
couple of clutch plays when they had to. But Caleb
Joseph is right, Bojays were the better team in this series.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Uh yeah again, I so you're annoyed at people just
roasting a guy saying they're the better team even though
they didn't win.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
This guy's getting killed. I think I can't like an apology.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, that's because people are out of their mind. I
don't know if I don't know if I agree with you,
because they did make some errors, right, like getting picked
off second base. I think you pointed out, and it's
pointed out that Smoltz didn't say anything about it in
Game six when they got doubled up there at the
end of the game, Like that was an egregious error.
There were some other errors that they made that you
(16:00):
just can't make right, You just can't make I mean,
here's one like do you send the runner at first
base so you take yourself out of the double play?
That's like, that's a legit question there. But anyway, I
generally agree with you, like you're unless you played baseball.
(16:22):
Whether you agree or disagree with his opinion, he has
every right to his opinion, every right. And all these
people who are, you know, slamming him, they don't know,
they don't know shit about shit. I'm with you on
this one.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
So all the aggravators NFL aggravators have jumped on this,
and I've also heard reports of this CARDI b is
the baby mama to be of Stefan Diggs. They've also
dug up three others that are currently pregnant with Stefan
Diggs's child, so he has four baby mamas to deliver,
(16:56):
and I think he has babies in this world from
multiple other women. I guess I'm annoyed by this. I'm
not religious, so this whole like sex out of wedlock
or having a child at a wedlock thing is to me,
that isn't It isn't a religious thing. It comes to me.
It comes down to this. And I'll say this about
Elon Musk too, So it's not a racial thing or
(17:18):
a cultural thing. If you have twelve kids by twelve
different women, there's no way you could be a present father.
So you're just opting to not be a present father.
And I don't know what man wants to admit to that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I don't either. I mean, I'll give you my honest
answer is I would never do that. I mean, I'm
I live two plain flights away from my son and
it eats me alive on a daily basis. It's the
really The hardest part of my day is every day
again I'm knowing that my son. In addition and not living,
not living in the same house full time anymore, is
you know, I miss him. I miss him. I try
(17:58):
and be a present father really really hard. And I
don't know why anybody would brack about that.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
I agree, and I can't, but I can't help but
judge him. I mean, you, you're a head coach of
many young men. You have a teenage son, Like what
if they what if one would come up to you
and be like, yeah, I've got four four in the
oven by four different women.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I just I don't it's it's terrible, right, and
it's terrible. Now, look for me, I don't want to
be a hypocrite because I don't have multiple you know,
I have only one baby mama, Right, That's that's it.
But I don't want to be a hypocrite and and say, hey,
you know you're not a present father. I mean again,
(18:43):
I took a job that moved away from my kids.
It's really really hard, but I didn't take away from
There's no chance of him living with three of them, right,
So I agree with you. He deserves to be called out.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
So safon Diggs and his ilk Caleb Joe's of getting
shipped on and in game interviews.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm gonna do you know what I'm feeling. I'm feeling
like supporting Chase today because that was Game seven was
one of the most unbelievable sporting events I've watched. So
I'll support you in it, even though yeah, even though
I don't, I don't hate in game interviews. I love
the fact that it feels like it's in a game,
but the fact that it was so clunky in such
a big game, h I that one. I'm I'm gonna
(19:28):
side with you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
On why are we doing this? Because we can, all right?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Jamar Chase. Yesterday, after the Bengals gave up a ridiculous
touchdown to lose a game they thought they had come
back and won, Jamar Chase chose to be diplomatic with
reporters afterwards when talking about the defense.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm gonna stay in my lane.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
I don't want to defensive player coming to me out
about what the fuck I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Jace Brown, the running back, the offensive player for the Bengals,
chose a different tact.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
We just got to play complimentary football. Like we put
the ball in the end zone and go up a
point at the end, finish the fucking game, like just ended,
Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we
need to do. Just end the fucking game, like make them,
make them get us the ball back, let us fucking
go to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.
That's how that's like, that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I again the Cincinnati Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals are
a poop show. And you know you have one player
saying the right things, and then you have offensive players
that can't, Hey, listen, offensive players. If it really mattered
about your defense, you guys wouldn't have held the Bengals
upside down and shook them for every fucking penny. So
you have no money to spend on defense. Like that's
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called being the worst teammate ever. I don't give a shit.
If you score forty seven fucking points, you don't say
a goddamn word about about your your defense not getting
a stop. Otherwise there will be games where you come
up short. Do you want them coming in and saying, hey,
you should have caught the fucking ball on third down?
You should have should have missed that block. I completely
(21:08):
disagree with that. That that is fanboy shit. That is you
know what's his name? By the way, the I because
I've seen that clip run a million times. Yes, Chase Brown.
Where did Chase Brown play in college? Yeah? Okay, so
when he's at Illinois, they weren't very fucking good. Okay.
He was also a Western I think he played Western
(21:28):
Michigan before there didn't he? I think so? I want
to say he played Western Michigan as well, but regardless,
Uh yeah, he played at Western Michigan. He ran the football.
Then he transferred up to Illinois. So on a game
which he didn't play, well, does he want guys coming
and going, hey, what do you guys? Do you guys
will go a game which he fumbles? Does he want low?
That's yeah? Shut the fuck up, Chase Brown. Who the
fuck are you saying that shit? Why could we play
(21:50):
for you? Because we can. That's it for the In
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